Fantasy Football - Week 13 Waivers + Nard Attack, Shedeur Starts - Podcast for 11/25

25 Nov 2025 · 1 h 1 min · 27 chapters

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In short

Fantasy Footballers Week 13 waiver-wire strategy, plus NFL news affecting starts/streams (including “Megalodon” hype, injuries, and quarterback changes).

Guests

Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike Wright (hosts). No additional guests are named in the transcript.

Guest backgrounds (hosts)

Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright are the Fantasy Footballers podcast hosts; they discuss weekly waiver pickups, matchup-based streaming, and injury/practice-report implications for fantasy rosters.

Key claims

  • Shadour Sanders named starting QB; Browns rookie debut described as “perfection” (55% completion, 11 completions, mostly short passes).
  • Bryce Young’s performance swings; discussion of streaming Terod Taylor.
  • “Nard Attack” incident: Juwan Jennings punched in the balls by Kyle Shanahan’s account; discussed as a major postgame altercation.
  • Waiver priorities: Trey Benson (if available), Devin Neal (Kamara absence), Kyle Mononga (touchdown streak), Chris Rodriguez (goal-line/TD role), and Parker Washington (plug-and-play).
  • Wide receiver: don’t pick up Brandon Aiyuk; discuss his contract guarantees being voided.

Notable examples

  • Rico Dowdle/Pearsall struggles in a Purdy-heavy interception game; CMC 31 touches.
  • Texans: Jaden Reed return; Nico Collins/Stroud vs Mills target discussion.
  • Tight ends: avoid Colson Loveland vs Eagles; prioritize Brenton Strange/Schultz depending on matchup.

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Learn about the extensive NFL coverage available on ESPN this season.

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0:32 to 1:09

Learn about the extensive NFL coverage available on ESPN this season.

“Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over.”

Megalodon Week Excitement

1:37 to 2:24

The hosts discuss their plans for 'Megalodon week' and reflect on past experiences.

“Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.”

Game Analysis: Carolina vs. 49ers

2:24 to 4:11

A recap of the recent Carolina vs. 49ers game and key moments that impacted fantasy players.

“And Mike and I would be sitting in the front because you were always so gracious to give the taller, manlier men the front seats.”

Player Performance Highlights

4:11 to 5:15

Discussing standout performances and player stats from the game.

“I did have a Tetaro McMillan touchdown, which we can be thankful for that.”

Shadour Sanders Discussion

5:15 to 7:40

The hosts delve into Shadour Sanders' performance and its implications for the Browns.

“of the Week, we've got 169 with two picks.”

Injury Updates and News

7:40 to 9:19

Latest updates on player injuries and their potential impacts on fantasy football.

“If you don't like Shadour, he completed what?”

Waiver Wire Insights

9:19 to 14:00

Strategic insights on waiver wire pickups and potential player impacts for upcoming games.

“Two different times in his storied career, he has had a top 10 points per game team.”

Injury Updates and Player News

14:00 to 17:35

Get the latest updates on key players ruled out and their implications.

“He looked better than I would look in that tight jersey.”

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Analyzing Week 13 Waiver Wire

17:51 to 19:00

Deep dive into players to target on the waiver wire this week.

“The Waver Wire, presented by Jimmy Johns.”

Key Running Back Targets

19:00 to 22:55

Discussing running backs returning from injury and their potential impact.

“Starting with the running back position.”

Wide Receiver Waiver Picks

22:55 to 27:22

Explore wide receivers available for pick-up to boost your fantasy team.

“Mononga, pay attention because we already know how capable he was when Swift missed time.”

Wide Receiver Waiver Picks

28:31 to 29:38

Explore wide receivers available for pick-up to boost your fantasy team.

“wherever you're scouting your fantasy team.”

Brandon Aiyuk's Future with 49ers

29:43 to 30:29

Discussion on Brandon Aiyuk's situation with the 49ers and implications.

“Fastest is based on analysis by UKLA of speed test intelligence data of national speed score results for the second half of 2025.”

Injury Impact on Players

30:30 to 31:16

Exploring the impact of injuries on player performance and team dynamics.

“Yeah, the comments from Shanahan were that they voided him back in July and that it was related to some other stuff.”

Top Wide Receiver Pickups

31:17 to 32:38

Analyzing top wide receiver options for fantasy football waivers.

“And don't forget, I mean, Mike Evans is technically eligible to return at some point here after Week 13.”

Parker Washington and Christian Watson

32:39 to 34:19

Comparing the fantasy potential of Parker Washington and Christian Watson.

“So I think Parker Washington is a plug and play option.”

Wide Receiver Strategies

34:20 to 36:00

Discussing strategies for utilizing wide receivers effectively in fantasy.

“is back, but he's not yet, so I'd ride Parker until then.”

Emerging Players in Fantasy

36:01 to 37:29

Highlighting emerging players and their potential impact for fantasy leagues.

Final Roster Moves Before Playoffs

37:30 to 42:01

Advice on roster moves and decisions leading up to fantasy playoffs.

“So that'll be an interesting game to see what happens.”

Fantasy Waiver Insights

42:01 to 44:35

The hosts discuss players to consider for fantasy waivers as the playoffs approach.

“to the cancer treatment, and he just never truly found a spot for the Texans.”

Tight End Strategy Discussion

45:39 to 52:52

The hosts evaluate tight end options and matchups while discussing potential pick-ups.

“Grainger knows if you're a procurement manager at an industrial manufacturing facility, you're balancing inventory and budget while sourcing critical supplies across the operation.”

Defensive Matchup Considerations

52:52 to 56:00

The hosts analyze upcoming defensive matchups and their impact on fantasy decisions.

“And I keep seeing these dates on the Cleveland schedule.”

Week 13 Waiver Targets

56:00 to 57:10

Discussion of top waiver wire picks for Week 13, focusing on defenses.

Streaming Quarterbacks Discussion

57:29 to 1:01:41

Analysis of streaming quarterback options, focusing on Jacoby Brissett and others.

“But Jacoby Beef Brisket Brissett will be the stream of the week until you people pick him up and play him.”

Quarterback Comparisons and Insights

1:01:41 to 1:05:41

In-depth comparison of various quarterbacks, discussing performance and potential.

“Yeah, but Burrow doesn't have Higgins, and Baltimore's defense has been good.”
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0:00Jason Moore:If you're an NFL fan, ESPN is where you need to be this season. It's the biggest lineup they've ever put together. Monday Night Football, every week, every game on NFL Network. Now also available with an ESPN Unlimited plan. And for the first time ever, Super Bowl 61. Marquee matchups, MVP quarterbacks, international games, the whole season start to finish. Football's on ESPN. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs, and some pick their favorite team because, I don't know, just like football fandom, nobody's life is exactly the same, and that's why State Farm gets to know you, not as a policy number but as an actual person, so they can help personalize a coverage plan that's just for you.

0:59Jason Moore:Whether it's game day or just another Tuesday, State Farm has you covered.

1:09Jason Moore:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

1:27Mike Wright:Welcome in.

1:36Mike Wright:Tuesday, November 25th. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Welcome in one and all. It is Megalodon week.

1:50Mike Wright:We have a Megalodon episode for you tomorrow. All of the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday content jammed into one extra large shark. I plan on going to sleep at noon today in preparation.

2:04Jason Moore:Is that different than? Yeah, I don't usually go to bed at noon. Okay. Yeah, that's a little touch early.

2:09Mike Wright:You did for a few years based on our eating choices at lunch. Oh, that's true. But that's a nap. I meant like full bedtime. I will never forget driving back in the early days of the fantasy footballers to our upstairs office, also known as a bedroom.

2:23Andy Holloway:And it's upstate.

2:25Mike Wright:And Mike and I would be sitting in the front because you were always so gracious to give the taller, manlier men the front seats. Well, I wanted to stretch out. And we'd be driving back and talking and trying to strategize, build the company. And I'd look in my rearview mirror.

2:44Mike Wright:I'm telling you, I don't remember any of this. You don't, do you? No, I don't. And you'd sit in the middle. and so you'd be right in that rear view mirror and i'd see your head back yeah that's called the raising canes delight yeah and you would uh that ironically he'd sound a little bit like a megalodon truly a delight in the back seat but um no we got a lot of stuff to talk about it is waiver day it is week 13 in the nfl season we had some sweats last night in our league of record with the carolina 49er football game. What was that? Not a lot of fun. What?

3:23Andy Holloway:Sir. Sir. First and goal. Roger. On the one. And we have Rico Dowda. We're like, hmm, you know what we're going to do? They'll never see this coming. Interception. What are you doing? Well, interceptions were a big part of the night.

3:42Mike Wright:Yes, they were.

3:43Jason Moore:Five of them. Brock Purdy had three first half interceptions, which is why it was such a close game at 20-9. This was a real boring game.

3:54Mike Wright:Any changes of opinion on Ricky Pearsall?

3:57Jason Moore:I mean, we're now twice. This is why I had to prove it. Yeah, I think he's got like six total yards. It makes sense. He did have the end zone. One of the interceptions was an underthrown deep end zone target, which was not his fault, Brock's fault. But, you know, he puts a better ball on there. Are you singing a different song?

4:20Jason Moore:You're singing a different tune.

4:23Mike Wright:Scoop by Bailey, dude. I did have a Tetaro McMillan touchdown, which we can be thankful for that. Yeah, sort of saved that game.

4:33Andy Holloway:He had seven targets. He caught two of them.

4:35Mike Wright:Yeah, gross. Gross game. I mean, Rico Dattel. Okay, six carries. Yeah, that's the problem. What are you doing, man? You should do what the other guys do. 24 carries for Christian McCaffrey.

4:47Andy Holloway:Where did the games go where they're like, guys, we're losing. Don't care. Give the ball to Rico. That's how they've won. Yesterday's game plan was so weird. 6.3 yards a carry, but only six.

5:02Mike Wright:George Kittle, 6 for 78. CMC caught a bunch of passes again. Juwan Jennings has been the better wide receiver to play over the last couple of weeks. and Brock Purdy looked bad and Bryce Young looked bad. Right after 450 yards in the NFC Player of the Week, we've got 169 with two picks.

5:18Jason Moore:Oh, the Falcons. What kind of defense are you? For next week? No, for the 448 yards that Bryce Young put up. I gotcha. This is why I consider making Terod Taylor a streaming candidate this week. I'm like, man, if Bryce Young could put up 448 against you. Right. But then

5:35Andy Holloway:you're like, I'd be the dude that made Terod

5:37Jason Moore:Taylor my streaming candidate.

5:38Andy Holloway:Hey, sometimes you gotta get

5:40Jason Moore:Christian McCaffrey, 31 touches. Bryce Young is not thrown for 200 yards on the season outside of that one game.

5:48Mike Wright:Yeah, that sounds like what Justin Fields had the one game against Cincinnati or whatever. Every once in a while a defense doesn't show up to work. Let's talk some news.

6:01Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

6:07Andy Holloway:Bryce Young actually threw for 328 against the Arizona Cardinals.

6:10Jason Moore:Oh, I apologize. I was looking at the... You were dead wrong is what you're saying. I was dead wrong. Since late September, 121, 150, 198, 199, 131. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are Lamar Jackson numbers. 124. Ooh.

6:23Andy Holloway:I just like that the coach saw last week the 448. He's like, I'm changing everything. Oh, right. Bryce is back, baby. Yeah. I mean, he was like, we don't need Rico.

6:32Mike Wright:We have the official announcement that Shadour Sanders has been named the starting quarterback. Here we go. I hesitate to venture into the waters of polarizing Shadour Sanders' conversation. Oh, man. But this is a show built on conversation. And I will say this. If you saw Kevin Stefanski's locker room speech, it made me laugh. I did not see it. It's like, let me see if I can put it on display because I don't remember the exact words. But he's in the locker. Shout out to the punter, baby. We did that thing, baby. Let's go. Shout out to this guy. Let's go. And then a rookie had a good game. Nice job, Shadour.

7:11Mike Wright:All right, we got it. I mean, it was like if he could not have Shadour in the zip code, he'd be so thrilled. Which makes me wonder if Shadour's okay. Shadour Sanders, the game was for the climate of Shadour Sanders.

7:26Andy Holloway:It was perfection. Because if you're on Team Sanders, you think that he got hosed. He's a good prospect. He went out there and he won. He was the first Browns rookie to win his first game in forever. Forever. If you don't like Shadour, he completed what? 55 % of his passes. 11 total completions. The touchdown was just a screen pass. I can't remember the number, but it was like... Very, very few of his actual completions were downfield or past the line of scrimmage. But he did have a couple good plays. It was perfection for both sides. Whatever you want to see. Because he did make some good plays.

8:10Andy Holloway:Yeah, he did.

8:10Jason Moore:There were two downfield plays that were really good. They were caused by him. And then he had a bunch of really bad-looking plays.

8:18Mike Wright:Yeah. And if you – I mean, I get it. If you watch him talk in an interview, you want to punch him.

8:24Andy Holloway:I mean, he just says the most ridiculous things. He is. He's very confident in himself. I hope he's good. Did you see the one week of practice thing? No.

8:35Mike Wright:That was one week of practice. That was just one week of practice. It's just funny. I mean, I want to see him succeed because I think it's great for the Browns. It's great for the NFL. You have a young man who is one of the most electric players in college football. I'd rather him go out there and give me something exciting than the milk toast of Dylan Gabriel. No disrespect. I mean, disrespect. Yeah. He can't. I can't really disclaim when I say milk toast. I said no disrespect. Yeah. I mean, but yeah, he'll start again is the point. He's going to start again, and we'll have all the same entertainment.

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9:11Mike Wright:That's exciting. And the Raiders say they believe Ashton Gentry's late game ankle injury is not severe. we still put Raheem Mostert into our waiver pickups because you never know with these ankle injuries it can suddenly become something it's not and Pete Carroll he said I haven't heard that it was going to limit him it sounds like there's a chance he'll be okay that's not enough for me that means there's a chance he's not okay yep and he doesn't have any assistance left to rely on for that information so what he's got

9:40Andy Holloway:Greg Olson is back everybody oh legend of the fantasy footballers Greg Olson.

9:47Jason Moore:Two different times in his storied career, he has had a top 10 points per game team.

9:53Andy Holloway:Yeah.

9:54Jason Moore:I mean, twice in like 20 years. And they were both number 10.

9:57Mike Wright:He was a Raiders OC in 13 and 14. Raiders OC in 18 through 21. Took a little time on the couch last year. And now he's back. Oh, man. He's the most affordable OC in the game.

10:10Jason Moore:He was the quarterback coach with the Seahawks with Pete Carroll so I think that's where they met up. He must be the nicest guy.

10:17Andy Holloway:Oh man, just lovable. Get ready for some... This will fix it. Get ready for some positive field punts, guys. Baker Mayfield.

10:26Mike Wright:No fracture, no structural damage. Adam Schefter reporting AC joint sprain that is on the shoulder that he doesn't throw with. So, they're not ruling him out for this game and I... Shoot it up. Just put a needle in it get out there bigger i don't know what's happening to jason this week

10:46Andy Holloway:it's thanksgiving yeah i'm ready it's eglodon week and jason's already on vacation he is very

10:52Mike Wright:he is shooting from the hip jayden daniels uh is returning to practice this week a long shot to

11:00Andy Holloway:play this week absurd you think so no i'm just that he's back the from the injury was so it yeah gruesome what we saw the fact I mean that was a season ending injury that was should have been and he's like oh you know just give me a couple weeks

11:15Jason Moore:I'm just thrilled he got to keep the arm yeah you know what I mean serious it was disgusting it was like look away hide your kids

11:25Andy Holloway:yeah it's a good I mean just like a couple twists and just

11:29Jason Moore:right off yeah I'm carving a turkey here soon I know these joints you just slide it right through it comes right off

11:35Andy Holloway:come on man Hey, that's a man's arm. Not this week. I'm thrilled that he's back. J.J. McCarthy is in the concussion

11:46Mike Wright:protocol. Per KOC, Max Brosmer would be in line to start if McCarthy can't go. Who is an undrafted free agent out of Minnesota. Man. Stream of the week. He'll probably be great. I mean, Max Brosmer could be the starting quarterback, and that could be better.

12:10Andy Holloway:I don't want to publicly doubt that he has the symptoms. It's just, that's some fortunate timing for the Minnesota Vikings to be like, wait, wait, wait. We wanted to get him. We're just so. Did you say fortunate or unfortunate? Fortunate for the Vikings. Okay.

12:31Jason Moore:Unfortunate for McCarthy.

12:33Andy Holloway:I'm saying for the coaching staff to be like, we totally were going to play J.J. McCarthy this week, guys. All the confidence. He just can't. You know what's wild is I feel like these things happen.

12:44Mike Wright:Like Kyler, right? Like Kyler was probably ready to play, and then they don't play him. But you know what never happens is these guys never come out in public. Oh, you can't do that. I know.

12:55Andy Holloway:That's a full-out war against your management.

12:59Mike Wright:I agree, but if you really are being –

13:02Jason Moore:Well, it makes you look bad. Not just like, oh, I'm talking out against my organization. But he's got the warm blanket of, I didn't get benched. So does Kyler. It's like, it wasn't play. I got hurt. So don't worry about it. Give me a contract next year. Let me start.

13:20Mike Wright:Yeah. Well, look, McCarthy, it's pretty impossible to play worse than McCarthy. So Max Brosner has that going for him. The practice window has been open for Darren Waller. Okay. So there is the chance he makes an impact in your fantasy playoffs. There's a chance. Joe Burrow listed as a full participant on the estimated practice report.

13:46Andy Holloway:If you didn't catch Joe Burrow's announcement on his Instagram with the photo of a very tight-fitting Cleveland Cavaliers jersey, it was very funny. I'm not going to say he had boobs, but he had boobs. Yeah. T. Higgins ruled out, though. He looked better than I would look in that tight jersey. It'd be some spillage.

14:09Mike Wright:Some overflow. He's coming out of the jersey. Josh Jacobs limited with the knee. We'll see if he makes it back. T. Higgins, if you didn't hear me, ruled out with a concussion. He won't play against Baltimore. So we've got Yoshi Voss on the waiver list today. Jamar Chase will return after his incredible written apology to everyone but Jalen Ramsey. Wait, he did an apology? Oh, an incredible apology. I didn't see it. Yeah, multi-paragraphs. Who did? Jamar Chase. Oh, okay, nice. He took full responsibility for his actions. But he didn't spit. He apologized to the Steelers organization. What actions did he apologize for?

14:46Mike Wright:Yeah, he did. I think he kind of took it on the chin, except for he didn't apologize to one man. One man that he spit on. I mean, if I spit on you, Jason, and I apologize to everybody in this office,

14:57Jason Moore:I would accept. So if you get suspended for a game for spitting, now I'm not saying spitting is good or you should spit on people. Yuck. You should not. You should not. Yuck. I'm very against it. But also, in the game, you're getting sweat. You're probably getting saliva on each other on accident.

15:16Andy Holloway:Yeah, but getting drooled on is not getting spit on.

15:17Jason Moore:How many games do you get for punching a dude in the nards? Oh. Okay, because yesterday, straight up. Just a nard attack. Throw her down, uppercut to the sack.

15:30Andy Holloway:Right in the nard wall. Just bling out.

15:32Jason Moore:If you didn't see this, that was after the game. Nothing you said was inaccurate. No, it was unbelievable.

15:38Mike Wright:I've never seen anything like it. When Kyle Shanahan comes out and says literally, he's like, what do you have to say to Juwan Jennings for going and attacking him? He goes, yeah, it was a cheap shot. He punched him in the balls. I'm really proud of Juwan Jennings. Well, he's like, I'm proud that he didn't go nuclear on him.

15:54Jason Moore:Yeah, he didn't do the karate kid kick. It was borderline. You get on one knee and whoop-a! It was like, I would like to propose. Just kidding! You're hitting your side.

16:06Mike Wright:It was unbelievable. I've always wanted to know, because my son asked me this, do they wear cups or not? No. Never? No. Now, Mike, you'd know.

16:15Andy Holloway:Some might. No. No? Nope. Never. So that went square in the – that was a direct hit. You can often tell that guys are not wearing cups in football pants. You know what? Good counter argument.

16:31Jason Moore:I've seen some of those. Yeah, you know, we joke about how stupid it is for defenders who, when they lose their cool, they will close fist punch a helmet. I mean, yeah. This dude's smart.

16:44Andy Holloway:This guy's like, he ain't got no helmet. I'm getting my money's worth.

16:47Jason Moore:Yeah.

16:48Andy Holloway:I'm throwing a punch. If I'm going to get a game for punching you in the helmet, I'm going to make this a game.

16:52Jason Moore:I'm punching you in the helmets. Yeah. I mean, goodness gracious. You got to look it up on X because it's really unbelievable that a human – like, that takes some gumption. There's no mistake. There's no accident. He wasn't trying to punch him in the leg, and then he just lowers down and goes –

17:12Mike Wright:He got him in the leg. Rashi Rice Limited on Monday's estimated report hamstring. We'll have to monitor that. Rice has a great matchup this week. Pacheco, full participant.

17:25Andy Holloway:did we say that Higgins is out? yeah a bunch of times third time we're reporting that one I have lost track of things after after the nut punch

17:34Mike Wright:alright that was news and knows sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote today at Progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates, third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage of policy terms, limits and conditions there's no insurance for that let's talk waivers The Waver Wire, presented by Jimmy Johns.

18:00Mike Wright:Well, the Broncos, Chargers, Commanders, and Dolphins come back from the bye week, and we have nobody on bye for week 13, putting the Mega and Megalodon. We have all the matchups to talk through. We'll start that tomorrow on the Megalodon show. It will be a lot of fun. We'll have a giveaway tomorrow. Oh, yeah, we will. So you'll want to listen in. I think we've got a Jamar Chase jersey, a Josh Jacobs jersey, both signed. And then we're going to probably add some more stuff into that as well. Big Megalodon giveaway.

18:31Jason Moore:Bruce is so sweaty right now.

18:32Andy Holloway:He's like, do we?

18:33Jason Moore:Oh, we do. We've got a Colston Loveland mini helmet.

18:37Andy Holloway:Signed. All right. Signed by Mr. Loveland. Oh, and Kyle wants to give away Josh's job. Mr. Loveland?

18:44Mike Wright:Yeah. I mean, that's why I call myself. Mr. Loveland.

18:47Andy Holloway:You wouldn't Loveland? You would be Loveland?

18:49Mike Wright:I'd be Loveland in certain situations. Um, this show is good. I'm on vacation now too, Jason. Welcome. All are welcome on vacation guys. Let's talk waivers. Starting with the running back position. We were on like injured running back return watch for Trey Benson, for Amari and Hampton, for Bucky Irving. Like we, you know, these are big deals, big players that can make a huge impact. Like all will be forgiven. for the injured weeks if Hampton or Benson or Bucky can bring you a fantasy title. 100%.

19:27Jason Moore:And we won't know by the time we record the Megalodon episode for sure for most of those players. It'll be later in the week. So you'll just have to pay attention. Follow us on X, and we'll tweet out what we can.

19:39Mike Wright:At the FFBallers. Yeah, we'll be watching for the Hampton news. We'll see if he comes back after the bye week. That's what the rumor was. They've got to designate him to return first. what else do we have though beyond you know trey benson 69 rostered yeah just take a peek

19:56Andy Holloway:like i can't imagine hampton's out there but trey benson may have been dropped in some leagues so just go i mean like you got office it was out there where benson might be available it was close

20:07Jason Moore:to having him return this last week he was eligible to return i think in week 10 so this is a player that's he's ready and they've taken their time i i think benson plays and i think bad matchup though

20:21Andy Holloway:yeah against tampa bay and then the rams and then houston so it's it's a really tough stretch holy i didn't realize that but i think benson is i think he's a very good player and i'm excited to see what he can do now that it will be his opportunity with james connor gone and we had an injury to bam night last week yeah we at least that was what yeah he got he got shooketh we don't have any updated information on it but if benson's back i think it's benson's like he will get the

20:50Mike Wright:majority running backs averaging 20.9 fantasy points per game against tampa bay tampa bay right in the middle at 15 right now in terms of you gotta you gotta catch passes which benson could do devon neal let's talk about devon neal because alvin kamara is going to miss some time it could be it could be a lot of time and devon neal you know this would have been we would have been talking all about the opportunity and for the Saints for Kendra Miller. But, of course, we can never talk about that. How sad. Just like we'd be talking about Marshawn Lloyd once Josh Jacobs went down, but we can never talk about that.

21:22Jason Moore:I love that we get an opportunity to talk about Devin Neal because this is a player I know both Mike and I loved. Loved his college tape. This isn't a superstar. We didn't see him as like, oh, you know, he's B. But Devin Neal was like, this is a really good player. I think he's very interesting. A jack of all trades. He can catch the ball very well. He's decent around the goal line. You know, Jack of all trades, master of none. A quality back. Now, unfortunately, he's on a really bad offense that doesn't project to score a lot of points. So you've got to temper your expectations here. But the nice thing is, like, sometimes the backup that is left to go, like a Bam Knight, you know, is like, this is just a guy.

22:02Jason Moore:You know, some journeyman, undrafted free agent who injury has propelled him ahead. Now, Devin Neal fell to the sixth round, but I think he's a good back. And this last week, he got targeted seven times, caught five of seven passes.

22:17Andy Holloway:Which Kamara has not done this year. So that's wonderful to see.

22:19Jason Moore:Now, if Kamara misses a lot of time, we're towards the end of the season. I don't know that you need to rush Kamara back to save the Saints season. He keeps missing the end of seasons, by the way. He really does. but his playoff schedule if this goes for the rest of the season is carolina the jets the titans

22:41Mike Wright:sure so opportunity knocks exactly and devon neal answers i think so 10 roster he's a priority ad you you need to put somebody on your roster that can get the majority of snaps at running back so he he's kind of is he on the top of our list outside of benson yes he is for me and then kyle Mononga, pay attention because we already know how capable he was when Swift missed time. Swift fumbled, wasn't productive, isn't their dude. And Kyle Mononga, another touchdown, three straight weeks, 12 for 48. He runs with ferocity. He falls forward. He breaks tackles. It's not a good stretch though. It's as bad as they come.

23:23Mike Wright:Yeah. I mean, you don't, you know, you don't really want like the Caleb Williams right now if I had Caleb Williams I'd be trying to find options yeah quickly because Philly Green Bay Cleveland two of them on the road sheesh you're gonna make mistakes because he's always good for that and then it's just gonna be like low upside situations for Caleb Williams I'd be trying to find like if I've been rolling with him I'd be

23:45Jason Moore:trying to find some pivot yeah the exciting so the schedule's tough for Manungai the good exciting thing is you know Mike this was a guy you were talking about early in the season as you're looking at who could maybe overtake the starter not just injury ahead of him this last week I know that there was a fumble and I don't necessarily think that it has happened but he got more work he was more involved more snaps than DeAndre Swift while Swift was healthy so as the season progresses the rookie Mononga could overtake Swift Swift is not so talented a back that he just can't hold off Manonga.

24:20Andy Holloway:It's possible. Ben Johnson has slower than I would prefer. He's really slow played the rookies with Loveland and Luther Burden and Manonga. They're starting to get more opportunities now and could be second half guys.

24:42Mike Wright:Don't forget Chris Rodriguez who got the majority of the work for Washington coming off the bye week. He had a lot lot of waivers but you know 15 opportunities on the ground in his last start 79 yards on that and guess what it's a lot better for him if jayden daniels returns to his starting lineup at some

25:00Andy Holloway:point he's only 29 rostered say versus denver this week you don't love that but perhaps jayden daniels is back next week and then you get minnesota and the giants chris rodriguez even if you're not playing him this week you you might want to just you know get that get that running back depth ready for your playoff.

25:20Mike Wright:And he's going to be their dude around the goal line. 100%. Even if you're not 15 or you're not efficient, he scored in three or four games before he kind of took over. Bayshall Tootin, another one to pay attention to, but the workload diminished quickly against Arizona. He had gotten banged up after the productive week before. Dylan Sampson is the pay attention just for the Judkins practice reports. Dylan Sampson is probably not somebody you can start outside of pure desperation if Judkins is active. and then you know Arizona it's not a guarantee Trey Benson's back this week so if Bam Knight's banged up Michael Carter can catch passes you could do worse right I'd still play Michael Carter in the pass catching probably if Benson's out over Bam Knight but I understand the debate if Bam Knight is practicing Bam Knight would be the touchdown guy also your insurance running backs

26:12Andy Holloway:people. Brian Robinson, if we're really at 35 % in sleeper leagues, I would not be having Christian McCaffrey without Brian Robinson on my bench at this point of the season.

26:25Mike Wright:If you had no choice, you'd drop Kamara for Neil? If you don't have an option, no IR spot? Yeah. And then Ramondre and Tootin, those are other drop candidates people have brought up?

26:35Andy Holloway:Yeah, I'm not dropping Tootin. No way. I'm adding Beshal Tootin if he's around and I have a spot. Ramondre is the – you might have like a Charbonnet situation up in New England where it wasn't an incredible, amazing fantasy performance by Henderson, but Henderson did get the snaps and he got most of the work. Ramondre might be good for a touchdown, but I'm fine dropping him.

27:04Jason Moore:I want to hold on to him for at least another week. I mean, Ramondre only played 31 % of the snaps. And so you go, is that Travion Henderson? Or is that just first week back from injury? Yeah, it could be. And so this week I think will be very telling. If he's again 31%, then you're going into the bye week. And then you would expect a rookie out of the bye late in the season to get even more work, then I think you can move on.

27:25Mike Wright:All right, we'll take our first break and come back with some wide receiver waiver pickups.

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30:03Mike Wright:Wide receivers, let's talk about it. I would not pick up Brandon Iyuk.

30:09Andy Holloway:No.

30:10Jason Moore:Neither would the 49ers.

30:13Andy Holloway:I don't know if we even talked about that. On the show? Yeah, did we?

30:17Mike Wright:That they're going to release him? Probably didn't.

30:19Andy Holloway:that they over the weekend it came out that they had figured out how to void all his guarantees.

30:25Mike Wright:Shanahan came out yesterday and actually confirmed that they did that in July.

30:28Andy Holloway:We did that in breaking news.

30:30Mike Wright:Okay, we did. Really? I hadn't heard that. He said that they voided it. Yeah, the comments from Shanahan were that they voided him back in July and that it was related to some other stuff. He kind of dismissed the meeting, not showing up at meetings things because he said any player on IR, they're not in the routine of the meetings. Their schedules are all over the place. But he basically said they did void it earlier in July. But, I mean, these two. There's no way he's coming back then.

30:55Andy Holloway:Yeah.

30:56Mike Wright:No, of course not. What are you talking about? No, but Brandon and I, I'm telling you, I said this before this even reported. They hate each other. Yeah. It does seem that way. It is like a personal. I mean, he is voiding$25 million. You're not coming off the severity of that injury and going and collecting the amount of guaranteed money he is voiding. It's wild. This is like a bag fumble of epic proportions. and I he did not want to sign this deal with them and it became a desperation situation remember the deal was like locked up with Pittsburgh or he was going to go to Pittsburgh I mean he wanted out and they forced his hand and now he's like I still want out I don't understand it yeah it's weird but yeah he'll find a job he'll find a job yeah no question the question was always

31:41Jason Moore:is it going to be Debo or Iuke and the answer was neither right yeah

31:45Mike Wright:But pay attention to Jaden Reed, by the way, designated to return last Friday, coming back, practicing. And don't forget, I mean, Mike Evans is technically eligible to return at some point here after Week 13. I don't know if he will come back, but they could use some players. And Garrett Wilson, eligible in Week 15, that one's kind of – like I've let him go in leagues.

32:09Andy Holloway:I totally understand letting Garrett Wilson go, but he – I mean, if he comes back and seems healthy, it wouldn't, I don't know, weirder things happen in the playoffs.

32:21Mike Wright:All right, top pickups at the wide receiver position. I've loved everything I've seen from Parker Washington since he became a high priority wide receiver in Jacksonville. He's 56 % rostered, had another seven targets, five for 71 and one. The matchup is awesome this week for Trevor Lawrence against Tennessee. So I think Parker Washington is a plug and play option.

32:41Jason Moore:He sure could be. And that just means he'll probably disappoint. But I've got him at the top of my list as well. He's been really good. He's been all right. I mean, the last two weeks prior to this was 33 yards and 20 yards. And yours truly played him for one of those, and I feel the burns. So he has been the number one target here. They've got Jacoby Myers. I don't know. Have we heard an update on Brian Thomas Jr.? Not lately. he's not missing the rest of the season he will come back at some point as far as a plug and play option I think Parker Washington is there he he's he's had enough fantasy points over the last two months enough targets Christian Watson is available just as much as Parker Washington though against Detroit his target market share was great he had seven targets this last week he had two touchdowns the week before I would personally I think I would rather have Christian Watson because not only is I know Jaden Reed is going to come back at some point, but Christian Watson I feel like is a bigger play home run hitter than Parker Washington.

33:50Mike Wright:I'll take Parker Washington.

33:52Jason Moore:Now what do you think happens with Parker Washington? Let's say Brian Thomas Jr. comes back two weeks from now, and now you've got Brian Thomas Jr. plus Jacoby Myers plus Parker Washington. Plus, remember, they got Brenton Strange back, and that was a target that they had been missing for a while. At that point I feel like, I don't know, I think Parker Washington is a very short-term rental, but he has been very good and a first-rig guy there.

34:18Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, it would change a lot if Brian Thomas Jr. is back, but he's not yet, so I'd ride Parker until then. I mean, when they had Travis Hunter healthy, there were games where Parker Washington had 11 and 10 targets, so I think he's fine right now. Watson definitely can take the shot. I just think that Watson's total, like, you just need to get the big one. I think Kayshawn Booty is one that you want to pay attention to. Another week removed from injury, 50 % rostered, had an end zone target. He drew a PI call on. That's where they use him, right? He's a touchdown scorer. They play New York.

34:51Mike Wright:They're at home. I think Booty could get – that Booty could get back – To scooting?

34:57Jason Moore:To scooting.

34:58Mike Wright:Okay, there we go. All right.

35:00Jason Moore:Get it moving. I want to point out Jaden Higgins, who has been even better than you think over the last couple months, really, after their bye week, Jaden Higgins was the second-round rookie wide receiver for the Texans. The matchup against Indianapolis this week will be 44.5 points over under, so that's fine. And two weeks ago against Tennessee, he was an inch away. He got taken down at the one, at the six-inch line. And so had he just gotten that in, I think we'd be looking at him very, very differently. That would be four touchdowns in the last five weeks, much more involvement. And he's a good player.

35:40Jason Moore:He showed up in good spots. I don't know if we're unhappy with the quarterback situation where we're not sure who's.

35:47Mike Wright:He's just going to be touchdown dependent because his yardage numbers haven't been there. I haven't. Like he scored three times, but 34, 42, 55, 38. I think that's what it'll come down to. He's big enough to do that. It's just. It's funny because I agree.

36:00Jason Moore:It's like we look at different things, right? Touchdown upside, check. check yardage very much not check right the those those aren't 55 48 34 38 not good enough but then you look at the targets which is really what is usually the indicator of how many yards are you going to get eight seven seven nine like that I want those targets it's just been Davis Mills targets and I don't know if it's really that much better if it's CJ Stroud targets or not Davis Mills is three and over right now I know he's been playing Davis Mills I know they've

36:32Andy Holloway:won every week but you just sometimes you haven't stopped to think about the whole like the collective like davis mills just won three games in a row little mac jones rock purdy it's a little

36:43Mike Wright:the defense the defense is so good so it's like you know i'm this is not an anti-strout no it's just like you get more stealing with strout i think still but davis has been great davis

36:54Jason Moore:is on a 17 game pace he's started three games the three and oh he's on a 17 game pace of 4 000 yards

37:01Andy Holloway:28 touchdowns and five interceptions okay yeah nico was good uh two of the three starts i believe

37:07Jason Moore:as well so so cj stroud's headache is going to continue i don't know headache you called it a

37:15Mike Wright:headache i'm just saying the symptoms um yoshi voss last week seven targets four for 61 there'll be no t higgins it's baltimore it's a big game on thursday yoshi voss only 36 percent rostered That's plug-and-play option this week as well on the short week. It'll be Joe Burrow. So that'll be an interesting game to see what happens. I mean, Lamar's been so blah. Right. But it's Cincinnati. Like, you're at the only point of your life you might be able to make Lamar a start-of-the-week type of situation because he's been so bad. Luther Burden, you know, it's still tough to play him. Yeah, I get that.

37:57Mike Wright:He just doesn't play a lot of snaps. It feels like, to me, he feels like playing a, like if I had Loveland and I had Burden and I had to flex one of them, I would play Loveland every week over Burden. Yeah, I agree. And so he feels like kind of a lower-tier version of the Loveland start right now in the offense where Dunze and DJ Moore are going to still be your premier guys, but you do have a shot. It's just the touchdown upside comes with Loveland. Three catches in three straight weeks. 51 27 46 yards snap count was at 51 it's just i don't know if he can do enough to make himself relevant every week this year but the future could happen yeah the arrow is pointing up but

38:39Jason Moore:that doesn't necessarily mean that you pick him up and start him i i don't even think i would pick him up because what would have to happen you'd have to have an injury ahead of him for him to be consistently involved enough he's still like playing he's up to playing half the snaps which Just great trajectory. But he's also, if he was playing 50 % of snaps the whole year, you'd be like, he can't play that guy. He's playing half the snaps.

39:02Mike Wright:If he went down to 50 % of snaps, he'd be like, crap. Yeah, he's a player I've had on my roster three times this year and dropped him three times. Because he feels really fun to sign on waiver day. Because he's a young rookie. And then you go and you get two or three catches and you're like, how am I ever going to play him? Right. I would add Jaden Reed. I mean, I'd add Jaden Reed to the roster. I think there's a real need for Reed. Okay.

39:26Andy Holloway:I feel the need for Reed.

39:28Mike Wright:And he has had a history of fantasy productivity. I'd put him on the roster. Do you guys care about Chimray DK in Tennessee? Yeah, a little bit. Because this is – do you realize like DK is on pace for nearly breaking the all-purpose yard record in a single NFL season because of how amazing he's been on punt returns. Yeah, he's such a good returner. He's the best returner in the game. And they criticized the drafting of DK quite a bit. And now he's had a productive – he's had a few productive weeks in the receiving game. Io Manor was out. Ridley is gone. And the matchup this week specifically for DK is great against a Jacksonville team that struggles against the –

40:14Jason Moore:No, if you need a start, I think he is in line. You can put him in there. You've got three of the last five games where he has been a top 24 wide receiver, double-digit fantasy points, and he's a rookie that should just keep getting better. And also, Cam Ward has been looking better. So it's not just, oh, here's a rookie wide receiver figuring it out. It's here's basically a rookie offense that should be getting better. I think DK is a very important pickup.

40:43Mike Wright:Mike, other names at wide receiver that you have interest in?

40:47Jason Moore:Also, if you're searching for DK, that is spelled D-I-K-E. Right. If you're going to your platform and you don't know how to spell Chimray DK.

40:59Mike Wright:Yeah, Chimray is C-H-I-M-E-R-E as well. I mean, none of that sounds like it's spelled.

41:06Andy Holloway:Yeah. Mooney. Don't sound it out. Mooney for Atlanta, maybe. Maybe as long as Drake London is out. And then if you're in the mucky, mucky muck, the guys from the Jets, I mean, I hesitate to even bring it up, but they both had seven targets. I'm talking about John Mechie and Adonai Mitchell.

41:29Mike Wright:Well, with Taylor, you have a shot.

41:31Andy Holloway:Yes. And look, Atlanta, and then Miami, and then Jacksonville. I mean, who would you take a shot on there, Adonai downfield or Mechie? I'd go with Mechie.

41:44Mike Wright:I think I would, too. Yeah, because, I mean, Mitchell has one catch, two catches. Mechie, a little bit better floor.

41:51Andy Holloway:Both of them, it's fascinating of the higher-drafted guys seem like they didn't really get a true shot. Like, Mechie, you know, I mean, we had the year one was lost to the cancer treatment, and he just never truly found a spot for the Texans. And then Adonai Mitchell, of course, was talented, but got punted off of a bridge by the Colts after the mistakes. So they'll be fun to watch. Not that I'm clamoring to get them into the lineup, but in deep, deep leagues, I'm okay picking them up.

42:26Mike Wright:These are the final two weeks before your fantasy playoffs in the majority of leagues. So this is like nitty-gritty time for some of these starts. Right. The drop candidates, I think there are two names that are really interesting. Addison. If we're sitting here talking about how much of a struggle it is for Justin Jefferson, Addison feels...

42:44Andy Holloway:I'd watch the new guy. You'd get a brasmer? Everyone not named J.J. McCarthy succeeds for Kevin O 'Connell and his offense. Everybody. So I would at least go one week and see what happens.

43:03Jason Moore:you're worthy uh i would be fine moving on for you're worthy he had eight targets last week it was his best game in a while and still wasn't pretty relevant ricky pierce all no not yet

43:13Mike Wright:not yet i mean it's getting tempted it's getting louder um he i don't have the snap count that he played he was 75 in his first game back which was the one for zero game two for six this week and And, I mean, it's a tough situation because we know he's a really talented player. He really had two good games this year, and then he got hurt. Right. That's a pretty small situation to make a judgment call on the long-term viability. And he may not be fully healthy is my point. He may not be himself.

43:51Andy Holloway:And if you look at the overlapping map, week one, Juwan Jennings was still coming off of his preseason injury. Week two, Juwan Jennings healthy, has a great game. Ricky Pearsall does not. Week three, Juwan Jennings is out. So two non-Jennings games were the Pearsall games? Yes. So perhaps that needed more attention than I gave it. Yeah.

44:15Mike Wright:All right. We'll take another break. We've got tight ends. We've got defenses. Very important this time of year. and we'll talk streaming quarterback options if you are a wild and desperate soul.

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46:14Mike Wright:okay i think tight end is a little more interesting than it's been do you guys agree i i agree but i'm

46:20Jason Moore:i'm shocked with who our number one is um not based on the player just based on the matchup uh for this specific week match up jason you're still trying to this has not look colson loveland is a good player.

46:37Andy Holloway:Still over here doubting the dog land.

46:39Jason Moore:The whole conversation on Colson Loveland has been the fun dog conversation. That's all good and fun. But if you need to start a tight end this week, I would not start Colson Loveland against the Eagles. This last week, Ferguson was okay. He was okay. Outside of that, no one's been okay against Philly shuts down the tight end. And Colson Loveland is not this just he's getting 10 targets a week type of player. I think there's a lot of guys on waiver I would start over Colson Lovell. Now, in long term, if you want to say, like, well, I want the rookie. I want him for the playoffs. Great. Scoop him up.

47:17Jason Moore:But I just personally wouldn't be playing this.

47:19Andy Holloway:So then who's your priority pickup for this week? Is it Stranger Things?

47:23Jason Moore:Yeah, I think Brenton Strange, who was a target in the draft season for the Jags. You saw Trevor DeLawrence last year target Evan Ingram like crazy. Britton Strange looked like he was going to be a thing, and then he got injured. Tennessee, Indianapolis, the Jets coming up. If you need a start this week, I think Baker's back. I think Kate Auton against Arizona would be a better matchup. And then don't forget Dalton Schultz. Dalton Schultz has been very involved and has been playing good. Superman plays good. This last week, again, was a bad matchup. We knew that going in. Buffalo is one of those teams that shuts down tight ends as well.

48:05Jason Moore:I'm not going to be afraid of one bad matchup against a team that shuts down tight ends. Do you understand, though, emotionally how lame it is? To put a claim in on Schultz over Loveland?

48:18Mike Wright:Yeah, like, I'm not doing that. Really? I'm not doing that. No. No, I'm going to play the more fun, explosive, young player whose snap counts are going up. Do you want? I get the strange. Do you want a sports car or do you want a midsize sedan? I think Strange is a better play probably. But I still might not do it.

48:39Andy Holloway:This week I can agree that Brenton Strange is probably a better play than Loveland.

48:43Mike Wright:Yeah, the sports car versus the –

48:45Andy Holloway:Yeah, you're getting a nice – Like the golf cart. I wouldn't even call him a golf cart because a golf cart is a good time. Okay. It's a golf cart with a governor. Have you ever driven a golf cart and had a bad time? No, it's fun.

48:59Jason Moore:No, I have never. not once Dolan Schultz has been a top 10 tight end four of the last six games no one's debating that sounds like you guys are really debating he's not even a golf cart speed wise sure no speed wise I mean Zach Ertz is the same thing I would call him the governor but I wouldn't mean it like

49:21Mike Wright:the leader of a I'd mean it like what restricts an engine's speed I like that he is definitely the governor no top speed but again I get it no you're right I I would just have a hard time me personally sitting down in emerging I get it the breakout could be happening the breakout could be happening on

49:39Jason Moore:Loveland so I think I think there should be a bet here Loveland versus Schultz what's the matchup for Schultz uh Schultz is Indianapolis what's the bet is it just coolest catches no no no no

49:52Mike Wright:just fantasy points half PPR no no no you're probably gonna end up right I'm just saying I wouldn't do it. I'm just explaining it from a fantasy manager perspective. I love Loveland. From a fan perspective.

50:08Andy Holloway:If I'm picking up a tight end, I'm not – I don't know that I want to be like, okay, just one week for Dalton Schultz to give up potentially the rest of the season for Loveland.

50:20Jason Moore:That is a legitimate argument that I think is fair.

50:23Andy Holloway:If I get five points from Loveland this week, so be it.

50:26Jason Moore:Which one of these guys could help me win a championship is certainly Loveland over Schultz. So please don't hear what I'm not saying. I am definitely saying that this is a weak matchup where I think it is bad for Loveland this week against Philly, and that's it. It matches what you've said all year.

50:44Andy Holloway:Don't get on Loveland.

50:45Mike Wright:Everything's a bad matchup for Loveland. Loveland. I love Schultz. Call me Mr. Schultz. Doctor. You got Schultz as one of your neighbors. Call me Dr. Schultz. And then your other neighbor is Kate Odden.

50:58Jason Moore:Don't forget about Brenton Strange.

51:00Mike Wright:Yeah, Brenton Strange is alright. He's alright. Yeah, and Darren Waller's

51:03Jason Moore:on a flight back home, fellas. He's in the air. He's coming home to daddy. Come on! I need you! I need you, Waller!

51:13Mike Wright:Coming home to daddy. Good luck. Good luck on that one. The best part is if he's back, you've traded for so many tight ends. When he comes back you have to now choose between them. You know you can't make that choice correctly.

51:27Jason Moore:I'm not joking. I was looking. Are you going to cut some of them to make it easy? I will have to, but I was looking at my situation this week. You have Gadsden. I have Gadsden, who I traded for. Looks like he could be a potential. I still think he's got the potential high upside league winning talent. I have Mark Andrews, who obviously stunk this last week, but this last week, my start of the week was Hunter Henry because it was against Cincinnati. Great week for him. Great week for Andrews. So can I cut Andrews? No. No. Can I cut Gadsden, who I trade for? No. Can't cut that guy. Dude, Waller, take another week.

52:03Jason Moore:My roster can't take you coming off IR. Don't come back this week, buddy. Stay in that air. Two tight ends on your bench and one in the starting position. But maybe three. I can't do that. I will have to cut these guys. You can't cut that guy.

52:19Mike Wright:And then pay attention to the emerging gunner helm in Tennessee. I know it sounds crazy, but it's actually been kind of okay on the target front for him. He was six for 51 last week. Cam Ward playing better. Matchup for Cam Ward's good this week. Colby Parkinson taking over at tight end for Los Angeles. We're talking desperate play here. Hit that nasty button for Colby Parkinson. And Fannin, Barner, they're all in that category. Let's talk defenses. Jacksonville plays Tennessee. Now, I'm in a pickle, and I want you guys to talk me through it. Because I picked up Jacksonville a week ahead because I saw the Tennessee matchup.

52:56Mike Wright:It's in Tennessee. It's a great matchup. Jacksonville's a good defense. They've double-digit. They sack the quarterback a lot. I have Cleveland. And I keep seeing these dates on the Cleveland schedule. It's like, oh, we're going to play, what was it? Was it Baltimore? And then I just played them straight through Baltimore. It worked out great. Now they've got San Francisco. And I'm like, I think I just need to play Cleveland.

53:19Jason Moore:I would play the Cleveland Browns over Jacksonville. Yeah, it's at home. That's one of the big differentiators. To me, when I'm on waivers.

53:27Mike Wright:You had 10 sacks last week.

53:28Jason Moore:Whenever I'm on waivers and I'm looking at matchups that are similar and I'm trying to decide between them, if it is remotely similar and one of those teams is home, I'm always going to choose the home defense. It is a way better bet. And they're at home. I mean, Brock Purdy just threw.

53:43Mike Wright:The problem is I don't want somebody else to play Jacksonville.

53:45Jason Moore:Roster two defenses.

53:47Mike Wright:Would you? It is at the time. I mean, that would be the time to block somebody, right? Yeah, it could be.

53:54Jason Moore:I'm not rostering. I'm rostering three tight ends, brother. I can't pick up another tight end defense. You can't listen to roster management from this guy.

54:01Mike Wright:Yeah, and Brenton Strange is out there if you want to pick him up. Oh, delicious. Yeah, Cleveland, I just feel like staying in the—

54:08Jason Moore:Can I, like, mush them together and put them all in one starting spot? Because then I'll roster them all.

54:13Mike Wright:Nope. Okay. I'll let you start them at running back if you want. interesting. If you want no risk of starting the wrong tight end, you can start them all. Yeah, so I, look, you stay in the flames. Miles Garrett needs five sats in six games to break the record. Seems like he's going to do that.

54:34Jason Moore:You've also got the 49ers on the other side of the ball against Cleveland and Shador Sanders. I think both of those defenses are very, very good players.

54:41Mike Wright:Oh man, that could be a low-scoring game.

54:43Andy Holloway:And 49ers, they play on the road against Cleveland. Then they have the unfortunately timed bye week week 14 but then they then they played Tennessee after that so the 49ers I had brought them up like two weeks ago with the with that stretch run and I still believe in it what how do you feel

55:01Mike Wright:about the league's best defense numbers wise Houston they have to play Kansas City and or Indianapolis then Kansas City both on the road that feels like another one where people are benefiting from playing Houston week after week after week and then you get these matchups and And it's like, do I play the matchup game or do I play the better defense? Because it's like Cleveland.

55:22Jason Moore:Yeah. Their defense is so good. It's so, so good. I mean, they just played Buffalo. It was a great start. You don't want to play them against Buffalo. And they put 16 points up. And I don't think they had a defensive touchdown. I can't imagine going away from the Texans.

55:38Mike Wright:So Cleveland, Houston, you're sticking with them. The Rams play Carolina this week. You just saw Carolina last night. The Rams defense is awesome. them so that's a good one 59 % rostered who are the Falcons we don't know but they play the Jets that's generally been really good and they have the third most sacks in the National Football League Gerard Taylor probably makes some mistakes in this game probably has a fumble would you go

56:00Andy Holloway:Chargers oh I love the Chargers versus the Raiders or the Falcons Chargers off the buy

56:05Jason Moore:Chargers at home off the buy against Geno Smith throwing interceptions like crazy Greg Olson's not going to fix that maybe a banged up genti the chargers i picked up last week for this week i

56:15Andy Holloway:think they're one of the best chargers i think are the the best widely available play at the dst position this week and the cardinals are the arizona cardinals are who i was going to bring up next there's maybe no baker jay you if you maybe baker's back maybe he's not yeah i mean if he's not for sure but even if baker is playing with that bum arm i don't know and the way that the Cardinals defense what they can do especially with uh with Nolan stepping up for him do we know

56:45Jason Moore:if Will Johnson's gonna be back yet if he's if he's active I would play the Cardinals defense Nolan their their first round rookie Will Johnson their second round rookie these two guys have been um they haven't played much this year Nolan missed the majority of the early part of the season and Will Johnson's missed a lot of games later but when they've been on the field they've been

57:04Andy Holloway:outstanding I don't see anything on Will Johnson yet yeah he did not play last week that was this

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57:28Andy Holloway:let's let mike kick this one off because um he's because i was because i was first and it's it But Jacoby Beef Brisket Brissett will be the stream of the week until you people pick him up and play him. I can't believe he's still on waivers as much as he is. He is. It's wild. Thank you. Since week six, quarterback three in fantasy points per game and total fantasy points, and that includes a bi-week.

57:51Mike Wright:Quarterback three is still out there. What's the roster percentage? Do you have it?

57:55Andy Holloway:I'll pull it up real quick. I had looked at it yesterday when I was putting in, and I was shocked that people aren't picking up Jacoby. We're at 51 % on sleeper.

58:07Jason Moore:Half of leagues still just sitting out there.

58:09Andy Holloway:I mean, maybe you're saying, oh, my competitive league, he's not there. But half of leagues, man, you could just pick him up and play him. And who cares? As long as Trey McBride is active, I don't care what wide receivers are out there. Jacoby's getting it done. Michael Wilson.

58:24Mike Wright:You should have Harrison back, and Jerry Rice is on the other side.

58:26Jason Moore:I think, yeah, I was going to say Marvin Harrison is, I know he's been a little bit disappointing so far in an early career. He's going to be great. He is a fantastic wide receiver. He's a fantastic wide receiver too. And now he gets to play that role. Yeah, that's true. Now that superstar Michael Wilson. Just needed an opportunity. Goodness gracious.

58:49Andy Holloway:How could he be that good in these last two weeks? Because he has been hidden by Kyler Murray for years, apparently. And then they took Marv, and so the scheme is going to be Marv and Trey McBride. And Wilson finally got an opportunity.

59:06Jason Moore:Here's a fun stat. Most receptions in a two-game span this season. Jamar Chase has had 28 in a two-game span. Which is ridiculous. Second most, Jamar Chase with 26 in a two-game span. Third most, Michael Wilson with 25 in a two-game span. Marvin Harrison Jr.'s most ever in a two-game span. 11. Ever. I mean, young career. That was underdog NFL on X.

59:31Mike Wright:Honestly, it feels the way Jacoby's playing. I mean, these last two weeks, what, is he the quarterback 3-6 and it was without Harrison? Mm-hmm. Like, if you have Harrison, Wilson, and McBride, that feels tough to stop. Like, Dorch has had good weeks for two straight weeks. Dorch? What a Dorch.

59:47Jason Moore:Jason. I've got Trevor Lawrence. Since the bye, he's actually the quarterback seven. The last four weeks, three out of the four weeks, he's been a top-12 quarterback. He's quietly having five-plus rushing attempts in each one of his games. And he faces the Titans team. We talked about them. I like that their offense is getting it together a little bit for the Titans, but their defense is not good enough. They're 24th against fantasy quarterbacks over the last five weeks. So, T-Law, you could play off of waivers. Man, I hate that dude. Don't watch him.

1:00:20Mike Wright:Don't watch him. He's on pace for his last four games, 25-plus interceptions, the Jameis Winston play-in.

1:00:27Jason Moore:He is the most inconsistent quarterback in the National Football League. On a play-to-play basis. That's what I mean. Not on a week-to-week basis. On a play-to-play basis. You watch him, and you're just like, oh, I get it. Superstar. Mobile. Runs out. Rocket arm. Unbelievable talent.

1:00:47Mike Wright:There's some comparisons with Caleb. And then it's just like. Right now. Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence. Frenetic.

1:00:53Jason Moore:Yeah, but if Caleb Williams is like this in year. This is year five. Yeah. This is not like, oh, he's a young guy. I mean, he's young by age. You're right.

1:01:02Mike Wright:You should expect it from Caleb. You shouldn't expect it from Trevor Lawrence after the paycheck.

1:01:07Jason Moore:He started 71 games. You got to be consistent at this point. You are what you are at that point.

1:01:13Mike Wright:Yeah, we know who Trevor Lawrence is. And to Caleb's credit, he's only thrown four picks on the season. Trevor Lawrence throws four and a quarter. They still won. Three picks last week. Still beat Arizona. We suck. All right. My stream of the week has about five maybes. Give me some underpants. You want one, two, or three? Maximum. Yeah, max.

1:01:43Mike Wright:Unobtainium underpants. maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe i get it cam or i get it maybe cam or this week jacksonville they give up a ton of points to the quarterback position and you're coming off the best game of the year for cam ward where he actually finished in the top five of the position maybe against jacksonville 28th against fantasy quarterbacks it was seattle that he did it against

1:02:05Jason Moore:i mean that that is very unexpected he was very good last week so it's a thin group of streaming options this week and so man that was tough he hasn't finished inside the top 16 until last week

1:02:16Andy Holloway:until last week we we put the call out you know like wait who actually played cam ward this week because we got oh yeah we had the good puns i feel like every single one i read was two quarterback league it was in my dynasty league i pulled him i had to pull him off my taxi squad and put him in it's like no everyone was forced into playing cam ward last week if you played him and it worked

1:02:38Mike Wright:out i have one uh quarterback related jacoby question i just saw over on x john wrote in and said i think i might pick up jacoby and start him over caleb and start him over burrow this week with playoffs on the line for your team i mean i would definitely play him over caleb the the process says that that is a thing to do this answer is why there's 51 percent roster yeah that's exactly

1:03:07Andy Holloway:Well, I mean, I'm saying over Burrow.

1:03:10Mike Wright:Yeah, but Burrow doesn't have Higgins, and Baltimore's defense has been good.

1:03:14Andy Holloway:Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. It makes sense.

1:03:17Mike Wright:How do you argue with quarterback three since he started?

1:03:20Jason Moore:You argue it by saying, Jacoby Bursette. We talk about, okay, Trevor Lawrence, five years. We know who he is at this point. Maybe you don't because how many years has Jacoby Bursette played? I'm going to count him.

1:03:35Mike Wright:Well, the last time he got to start games consistently, he had his Joe Flacco in Cleveland year. He was Cleveland when he started.

1:03:44Jason Moore:Yeah, he was drafted in 2016. He's played 10 years. He is playing out of his mind right now.

1:03:50Mike Wright:I mean, he is. 67 % completion percentage. I mean, quarterback rating of 97.

1:03:58Andy Holloway:Well, because he has the – there is nothing for him to lose. like what are you looking over your shoulder at who else is going to come in well if you look over your shoulder you can't even see the guy behind exactly he is tall exactly but i mean that has to

1:04:14Jason Moore:the psychology of that has to has to have my dad over for dinner last night and this was the funniest thing because he he likes the cardinals but he doesn't follow it very close he's like i can't even name players anymore and he was just talking about he he got to watch this last week and he says I can't wait to hear this he goes they showed that quarterback on the sideline and I don't know if it's okay if I say this but I was like finally that's a man I was like yeah no I get it not a little baby boy Kyler he's like hey our quarterback's a man now oh man oh my goodness and he plays like a man

1:04:57Mike Wright:He stands in the pocket. He can take a hit. All right. Nobody wants to hear about that anymore. Tomorrow, the Megalodon episode. Megalodon. Make sure you're ready for it. It should give you enough content to prepare you for week 13, everything you're doing through the entire four-day weekend. And we get a lot of football in these four days, so it should be a lot of fun. Black Friday. Yeah, we'll get it all. Yeah. That'll do it for today's episode. Check out jointhefoot.com for our fantasy football community and we'll catch you on the Megalodon. Goodbye.

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