Fantasy Football - Week 14 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, TNF Reactions - Podcast for 12/5

10:34Jason Moore:We got injury updates. Lamar is the interesting one. He did not practice Thursday. He got stepped on in Wednesday's practice, but he's still expected to play. It was funny because it was reported all week, like, hey, finally, we're going to have a full week of practice for Lamar. These last couple of weeks.

10:51Andy Holloway:The commanders are Sunday. They were Monday last week.

10:52Jason Moore:Yeah. You know, the last couple of weeks, Lamar has been really, really bad for fantasy, not scoring like nine fantasy points. And he has not been practicing in full. And this was like, oh, good. Lamar's healthy. He's going to practice in full. and they got stepped on misses an entire practice they're saying he's expected to play I don't think it changes anything we think he's banged up and you're rolling the dice when you start him I still think you can you know to me he is like the quarterback 10 11 on a week where if there are other really good options like I think Stafford is a good option this week I would I would do that but Jacoby is the default yeah Jacoby for sure I would do Jacoby but then um yeah I'm still gonna play Lamar over over I'm not I'm not going down to like a tier four quarterback all right uh Roma

11:43Mike Wright:dudes they still sidelined on Thursday a lot of people last night they were like oh man now that I'm not going to play to slot I got to play Rome and I'm like Rome's not playing I think and so third option or leave to slot in there get some information Marvin Harrison not practicing again on Thursday, giving a little bit more of an upside for Michael Wilson. Yeah. And then Rams wide receiver Devontae Adams returned to a limited practice on Thursday. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations.

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12:38Mike Wright:yesterday we covered the seahawks falcons bangles bills titans browns commanders vikings dolphins jets saints and buccaneers seven more to cover today four of the seven matchups between teams with the exact same record oh just kind of weird two palindrome games oh fantastic those are the best inverse records they're not that great and one featuring a current non-playoff 10th seeded afc team called the chiefs wow so there you go man there all these teams are gonna

13:12Jason Moore:figure it out i know we're still way we get closer and closer where now for the first time you go

13:18Andy Holloway:well maybe there's a chance like the bills the lions the chiefs yeah but then at the end they're We're going to figure it out.

13:27Mike Wright:We'll start with a same record matchup. We're here. I mean, the Colts, 8-4. Jacksonville, 8-4. Oh, baby. Battle for the number one seed. Well, it's a home game for Jacksonville, but they're not favored. Indianapolis, minus 1.5 on the road. Over under 47.5, tied for the third highest of the week. You know, what I think is, I think Jacksonville wins the ballgame. They are? That's my opinion. with the injuries on the defensive side for Indianapolis, with the fact that Daniel Jones is playing through this injury, with the momentum that Jacksonville has built, them at home, I do like them to win the game.

14:08Jason Moore:Sounds like an almost upset to me.

14:10Mike Wright:I don't know. I mean, one and a half points. It just sounds like an upset to me. This is the kind of game, though, where you talk about Jacksonville in a positive light and they get beat 35 to 3. That's kind of the way that it works with them sometimes. sometimes you know that the three division leaders right now like one of these teams is lee is going to lose the game because that's how games work and that team might be tied with houston at the end of the day because houston seven and five they've won four straight colts have lost two straight jacksonville's won three straight titans are apparently still you got dunice there on the bottom so jason you know uh mike had trevor lawrence his start of the week you feel as

14:51Jason Moore:confident as he does um i i think he is a fine start this week this is a matchup i do want pieces in lamar or trevor lawrence i won't go to lawrence from from lamar i would stick with lamar okay that's that's basically like the tear break to me where you're going from like top 12 and four or five weeks no i i mean lamar's four points trevor lawrence was my stream of the week that was my pickup to play off of the waivers this week i i like it but and and it makes sense this is a great matchup with a high over under they're at home um andy believes they're gonna win the game i think you could start trevor lawrence but i'm still in the i'm still in the the side where i don't think lamar you know forgot to be a great quarterback and doesn't know how to do it anymore

15:37Mike Wright:um man i i think that's a really tough decision mike would you go trevor lawrence i would i think

15:42Andy Holloway:i would too that way yeah well actually i said i'm not answering lamar questions oh that's oh Oh, crap. Take that back. Edit that. But in general, I'm playing. Change his voice to one of those deep voices. I would play Trevor Roy.

15:54Mike Wright:There you go. Thank you. In the pitch black over there. Yeah. We need that as a bit. Oh, we do. If you could shut one side down and just turn them into a black.

16:04Jason Moore:A backlit camera with no light on the front.

16:07Andy Holloway:Yeah, black silhouettes. And you could just tell your darkest truth. I would start Kyle Pitts this week.

16:13Jason Moore:You should look into that. carry on Johnson is a my guy again

16:20Mike Wright:sorry these things happen Jonathan Taylor you play him it's amazing the lack of confidence I've seen in the fantasy community about Travis Etienne right now you know it's weird because there have been he's weird I mean Travis Etienne is a top well he's at 13 right now on the year but that's with a bye week and he's had like what 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 of 13 weeks he's a top 12 running back so you've had these like prolific games and then even when he's struggled 18 30 23 32 it's not been bad and then last week you have one really bad game worst finish of the of the year and everyone's like do i even play him well i think it comes in

17:00Jason Moore:in concert with the work that bashal tootin's getting and you just you you are fearful that the takeover will happen where tootin ends up at least in a 50 50 timeshare if not getting even more work. That's the fear. But Travis Etienne is definitely a playable running back. The last six weeks, the Colts are 24th against running backs. I don't view this as a terrible matchup for him. And they're going to need him. I mean, this game is so important for who's going to be playing at home in the playoffs.

17:32Mike Wright:And then the Brian Thomas Jr. questions. I mean, look I understand the narrative and storyline and why it could work I just think there have been a lot of times that the same conversation has happened over and over again that conversation it's pretty true against Tennessee last week when he did nothing it was pretty true against Las Vegas before the injury when he did nothing right it's been true against Cincinnati when they had no defense and he did nothing so that that you know this is the hardest player type in fantasy to deal with it's the player that's done it it's the player with physical gifts skills and abilities it's the player with high draft capital that isn't doing it now yeah and those players you

18:19Jason Moore:always see the path to them doing it again uh-huh and it might happen yeah i mean i'll tell you where I have him in my personal rankings. Like kind of who I would play over him and who I would play him over. I'm going to play Michael Pittman and Cortland Sutton and Alec Pierce ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. Those are the three guys I was going to ask about. Well, there you go. I would play all three of those guys ahead of Brian Thomas Jr. I got one more. DK Metcalf. So I've got DK. It feels bad, but I've got him behind Brian Thomas Jr. Khalil Shakir behind Brian Thomas Jr. They would hang out. Terry McClorin behind Brian Thomas Jr., although that one, if you want to roll in the heat, Troy Franklin.

19:02Mike Wright:Would you play Jacobi Myers over him in the same game? No, I would not. Because I would do that. I would.

19:08Jason Moore:And I don't fault anyone for choosing to play Myers who's looked good with an early connection with Trevor Lawrence, but also that early connection with Trevor Lawrence has been while Brian Thomas was dealing with the ankle injury. Brian Thomas is their number one wide receiver. He's also their best wide receiver. so you you believe that Jacoby Myers is a better wide receiver than Brian Thomas I think there is

19:29Andy Holloway:a chance the what you kind of you have to remember you know it because Jacoby Myers what has had multiple good seasons for the back for the Raiders uh I mean he was paid a lot of money week one is is quite good and then he falls apart and while you don't know what the truth is yet you don't know whose fault it really is as everything just completely fell apart and it's geno smith and the offense like this he was in an impossible situation he gets traded um immediately is commanding a target share and is producing so i just i'm my confidence with jacoby is

20:09Mike Wright:it's coming back yeah it's just what is brian thomas at this point you know there are players in the league who none of us would say Xavier Worthy is a worse wide receiver than Juju in Kansas City, right, in previous years. But we'd also go into a week and say, you know, it can just go really weird for Worthy, whereas you're going to get what you get with Jacoby. Like, Jacoby's going to catch five or six passes. He scored in two straight weeks, one of them with Brian Thomas Jr. I don't know. I just don't have any. I'll summarize it like this. I don't have any confidence at all in Brian Thomas Jr.

20:46Andy Holloway:I would have none. I would be more surprised if Jacoby had one of those, just, you know, a nuclear game at eight, 120 yards and two touchdowns. I'd be more surprised at that than if Brian Thomas did it. But at this point, I'd be surprised if Brian Thomas does anything for the remainder of the season.

21:06Mike Wright:I don't think anybody could have seen 48th in points per game, Brian Thomas Jr. So you take away the injuries and you just look at his performances and 48 is incomprehensible.

21:16Andy Holloway:I really hope he figures it out because this sucks.

21:19Jason Moore:This is a great matchup to figure it out. I mean, a game where you're going to need to score because the Colts are going to be scoring. They are down their number one corner. And this is also a matchup where we've seen Brian Thomas do well last year against Indianapolis. Wide receiver 9, wide receiver 11. Who's throwing the ball? I don't know if that was Mack or I would imagine one of those. What week did you just say?

21:39Andy Holloway:No, he just said the two performances against Indy. One was T-Law, one was Mack.

21:44Mike Wright:yeah okay all right yeah I just nothing nothing makes sense and precedent for me this year with Brian Thomas Jr.

21:52Jason Moore:because all year has been awful I will say again I don't know if I brought this up on this show I talked about on the dynasty show I went back and watched every on field Brian Thomas Jr. snap not just the three targets obviously and he looked very healthy in the last game yes this last game he looked very healthy he was open he looked fast he was down I mentioned he was the reason Jacoby had that 66 yard reception because he went down and took out that guy that was coming to chase him blocked the heck out of him he was helping every teammate up after every play like he was like okay a big part of the game even though he was only three targets so he I am

22:28Mike Wright:confident he's healthy I will say this Parker Washington came back to practice yeah that's fair so um the ball can get spread around there yeah Brenton Strange your start of the week at tight end Tyler Warren you keep playing him he leads the team in targets for outrun yards for outrun, fantasy points per outrun versus zone defenses, which is basically Jacksonville's defense is a zone defense. They play at 80 plus percent of the time. Alec Pierce, I think you can start with excitement because you always get big playability and he's just on the field and doing enough. Michael Pittman, I think was it last week that was a really bad disappearing act.

23:01Mike Wright:Yeah. But he's playable in a high over under matchup here as well. Daniel Jones is not so much in the conversation anymore.

23:10Jason Moore:No, not with the leg injury. You don't expect to see him scrambling a lot, and he's not playing the same.

23:17Mike Wright:All right, we'll take a break and get into some more matchups.

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25:12Mike Wright:Pittsburgh, 6-6. Baltimore, 6-6. I feel like that's just begging for some sort of Jason Mark of the Beast comment. It's tough because there's four. I know.

25:23Jason Moore:I thought about it.

25:25Andy Holloway:Did the beast get a tattoo? Is this like a mega mark?

25:30Mike Wright:Vegas line, Baltimore minus 5.5. Over under just 42.5 in this one. What a wild division. I mean, Baltimore and Pittsburgh leading it at 6-6. Cincinnati, very fortunate for that to be true. And, man, it's going to be – this is a big playoff game for both teams. Lamar we've talked about him at length terrifying on every level not just because Lamar is obviously capable of giving you a great game at any moment but because it's a divisional game with a low over under in a these ones can be dogfights these ones can be you know T.J. Watt is just got an extra pep in his step for a game like this you know I think it's fortunate the games in Baltimore but still this this could be like if you had to wager on 42 and a half I

26:26Jason Moore:I'd probably go under yeah me personally I think the line is set perfect as it usually is this is a game where I agree it could be a dogfight what happened last week where they got the Baltimore Ravens got criticized for their use of Derrick Henry and Harbaugh came out and talked about how that happened and it was pretty logical how it happened but Derrick Henry was awesome And when they used him, he was doing great. And this matchup where, I mean, look, the Steelers, they're, you know, they're great, lauded, long-time, amazing, hard-nosed, tough, you know, blue-collar defense. It doesn't exist.

27:09Jason Moore:They are one of the worst-run defenses in the league. if you adjust for schedule they're 30th in fantasy points given up to running backs on the season and they just gave up a million this last week so to me I like Derrick Henry quite a bit.

27:26Mike Wright:Zay Flowers is not really in the conversation for me anymore on a week-to-week basis I'd play DK I'd play Pity City I'd play really Khalil Shakir yeah I have zero dot zero confidence in anything meaningful for my fantasy team from Zay Flowers and then the over under the lamar injury you just start stacking up the reasons why you know any player can do anything on any week but are you playing dk metcalf mike i'm on break well okay if you had i mean you you

27:58Jason Moore:you have this matchup right you've got right right right and i have these two guys metcalf

28:02Andy Holloway:I it's a DK Metcalf is far more likely to hit the ceiling but flower I think I'd still honestly would probably still play Zay flowers and like if it a small sample literally one game uh but the Tyler Huntley game should Lamar miss it wasn't incredible for Zay he was seven for 63 but he was 41 % of the targets. He just immediately would go to Zay as the number one option. I mean, it's been bad.

28:36Mike Wright:It's been average.

28:38Andy Holloway:It's been average.

28:40Mike Wright:He hasn't scored since week one.

28:41Andy Holloway:Yeah, the touchdowns, well, he scored last week, and they said, no, we're not allowing that to happen. He just, he is, his games are between 8 and 11 1⁄2 points. He's just been very average where DK Metcalf has more ceiling games than he does, but he has more just catastrophic games than Zay Flowers does. Jalen Warren? Yeah, you play him. Also, the thing with DK, like this Rodgers injury is weird.

29:14Mike Wright:He's only averaging 190 passing yards a game anyways, which you feel every week.

29:18Jason Moore:And now you add Adam Thielen to the mix in some capacity. I'm not worried about this guy. Sure. I'm not worried about Thielen. But I'm just saying, if you're throwing for 190 yards a game. You're worried about Thielen's four yards? I'm worried about every four yards. Thielen is so meaningless, it doesn't matter.

29:34Mike Wright:It's a game of yards. Mark Andrews.

29:37Jason Moore:I believe the Steelers are the only team this year that has not thrown for 250 yards in a game.

29:42Mike Wright:I mean, I think they've been incomplete on 25 straight 20-yard throws. Something like that. I think they haven't completed a ball over 20 yards. What? Yeah. Kyle, you'll be able to track that down real fast for me. Give me the actual number. It's the amount of. Like a 20 air yard pass? Yes, any 20 air yard passes, it's like 25 straight that they haven't completed. Yeah, and this is. And there's like games. They've gone games and games without completing a big play.

30:11Jason Moore:This is in Baltimore. I don't think this is going to be a fun game for the Steelers.

30:14Mike Wright:i think it's gonna be fun for anybody it's not fun for either side i don't even know if it's

30:19Andy Holloway:fun for henry i'm fine but henry's still a top 12 start at worst jaylen warren just continues to get it done and i mean kenny gainwell if you need him yeah this is gonna be a crazy crazy very very

30:36Mike Wright:meaningful game that may not be as meaningful for fantasy yeah i can agree with that did you find it Kyle you're on the microphone you end up finding the number they haven't completed

30:45Andy Holloway:a 20 plus since week eight yeah it's week 14 it's a long time dude Arthur Smith Rogers yeah you know but but I'm saying with our powers combined we can be soup trash just saying of like he had Drake London nothing he had Pickens nothing nothing like guy I don't know it's just it's it's crazy to me that you have guys who we now look at you're like that's potentially a superstar wide receiver and Arthur Smith is like meh yeah they've lost five of their last seven games yeah your dream's coming true Jay I know it's like Aaron

31:29Jason Moore:Rogers gonna show up and he's gonna for the first time ever give them a sub 500 record

31:35Mike Wright:Denver here's your palindrome Denver 10-2 Las Vegas 2-10 Vegas line is Denver minus 7.5 on the road over under is 40 but that gives Denver with the heavy favorite line 24 points Las Vegas with a cool 16 competing with Tennessee for ew gross of the week you remember this was the week 10 game in Denver that was a horrific 10-7 game the Broncos have won nine straight games, but their last four wins have been by 10 points. A combined 10 points. A combined 10 points. That is the smallest margin of victory for any team in a four-game win streak in NFL history. They are squeaking by. I really wanted them to lose to Washington just to teach them a lesson.

32:21Mike Wright:Yeah. And they still won the stupid game.

32:23Jason Moore:It feels like every year there's a team that just – the ball always bounces their way for that season. Last year it was the Chiefs. this year it's it's the broncos and the ball bouncing their way even in uh before the game max crosby who was limited on wednesday did not practice on thursday of course so if i mean if he's gone now all of a sudden you can go win 11 to 7 yeah the wild thing about this do you want

32:51Mike Wright:your spanking now or in the playoffs denver take it now lose this game i don't think they can get to realign go out there and lose lose the game and get your spanking motivate your team to know

33:02Jason Moore:that it doesn't just always work their defense is too good to really ever get blown out yeah i i can't imagine a team going out there and putting 35 up easily on the broncos the the part that's

33:15Mike Wright:hard about denver is like if if las vegas you one great brock bowers play okay you got seven points you return a kick because that doesn't involve their defense sure and you got 14 and then you're like does denver win or not i mean that's that's how the offense feels it's why we have hard a hard time talking about wide receivers i mean how many times in the last two years have we been like this week is it's marvin mims has finally really reached the way to destroy franklin he's finally going to be the Pat Bryant is the guy you want to be. Evan Ingram is coming up and Corlin Sutton sitting there touchdown or bust and I don't know.

33:54It's just 10 and

33:56Mike Wright:2. Okay, congratulations. But I don't know who to play.

34:00Jason Moore:Yeah, I don't know. It's funny because they should score in this game. This is a good matchup. They also should have the first time. Yep. Right. And so I would order it. I would put Corlin Sutton. I'm still playing Sutton this week. Yeah, I would put him first in the list. He does, you know, in the last three weeks, which I think you've got to look recently because the Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin, Marvin Mims, whoever the two is, has kind of been rotating. And Cortland Sutton has the most targets, the most percentage of receiving yards, the highest fantasy points. So I think to me it's Cortland Sutton in checkout.

34:40Jason Moore:Keep your eyes on Pat Bryant and on Troy Franklin, but that's playing-wise, it's just Sutton.

34:45Andy Holloway:If Pat Bryant, who is now, of course, limited with a hamstring, but if Bryant got into this game, is on the field for another 70-plus percent of the snaps, maybe the following week, all considered. Green Bay is a tough matchup in two weeks, but I'm with you. I'm going to go Cortland Sutton, Harvey. It's so weird, man. Harvey should.

35:09Mike Wright:Harvey, Jinty, Bowers, you play all of them.

35:11Andy Holloway:Yeah. Harvey should. The advanced analytics on R.J. Harvey are not good. I think the biggest question is maybe Bo Nix.

35:19Mike Wright:I was going to ask you Bo Nix or Lamar.

35:21Jason Moore:I would go Lamar. I don't – Bo Nix has an especially big – I would go Trevor Lawrence over Bo Nix. Okay.

35:31Mike Wright:Chicago's 9-3, Green Bay 8-3-1. Green Bay 8-1, or sorry, 6-1 point home favorites. No respect to the number one seed. Over-under is 44-1. half.

35:42Jason Moore:That is wild. This is the first time in 40

35:44Mike Wright:plus years that a number one ranked team is six plus point underdogs.

35:52Jason Moore:That's chalkboard material right there. Write that up. You think they have a chalkboard anymore? That's whiteboard material right there.

36:02Mike Wright:And what a big deal. I mean this game there's a lot of huge playoff games this week. They play again in week 16 these same two teams so

36:10Jason Moore:my goodness um 18 degrees is the current projection um when you start getting below 25 degrees that's where you see an impact so we'll have to pay more attention uh as we get closer to know whether or not you know that that's going to hold but usually when you worry about you know hourly like is this weather going to impact the game that's more specifically on rain on snow like we got to be closer to know if that's going to come the temperature is pretty predictable so

36:45Mike Wright:this should be a freezing game uh big decisions for fantasy managers um i think by the way i realize you never even hit your to slaw drop at the beginning of the show he caught a touchdown I think people deserve one. Come on! I wanted the lights! Where the heck are the lights?

37:07Andy Holloway:No. If he had came down with that second touchdown.

37:11Mike Wright:Do we not have any lights? I did. I thought they were working. I tested them. Oh, wait. We actually did one? Yeah.

37:17Andy Holloway:You thought wrong. Kyle DeBorgogan.

37:20Mike Wright:He tried it again, and it didn't work. Sorry.

37:24Andy Holloway:Kyle DeBorgogan tweeted this one out. Rookie wide receivers with four receiving touchdowns on fewer than 10 receptions. Isaac Teslaw. That's it. He should have had at least one more. If we had one more, it would have been pants off.

37:42Jason Moore:Does that just become his position? You play wide receiver, you play tight end, you play touchdown. Teslaw is just our touchdown guy. Yeah, he's our touchdown guy. That's it.

37:54Andy Holloway:I wanted to see it, man.

37:56Mike Wright:I wanted to see if it would work. Oh, I thought you meant the lights. Yeah, I did too. Oh, no, that will never work. Caleb Williams, Jordan Love in this one. What a big game from Jordan Love on Thanksgiving. I mean, that was...

38:08Jason Moore:Yeah, that was very nice.

38:09Mike Wright:Those are the games that really tantalize you and make you think that, you know, you could get that every week. But it doesn't happen that way. And are you worried about him in the cold or do you embrace the Green Bay home matchup and think that, hey, at least on paper, the Bears defense gives it up to quarterbacks. They give it up to wide receivers.

38:29Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, I was really excited. like similar to Jordan Love, Christian Watson, his target share over the last three weeks, 20%, 33%, 36%. And this is a matchup where you want to throw in the Bears. And so, yeah, on paper, I really like the combination of Jordan Love, Christian Watson. The weather does scare me. Usually, I'm having Kyle pull up the data. We've done the research, but I forget every year when we come back to see how significantly it impacts the run to pass ratio so usually bad weather will be good for running backs and bad for wide receivers in the passing game um so i'll i'll

39:09Andy Holloway:get that in a second is it good for a running back who's just been hurt non-stop for a month

39:14Jason Moore:i doubt it and josh jacobs i don't know maybe maybe is that like a like a outdoor cold plunge where your recovery is nice. Right. The inflammation will be gone. Or is it just keep everything too tight and you rip it? I don't know. I don't know. I'm scared. I'm scared every Josh Jacobs play as the Josh Jacobs manager. He is the player where every play I watch and I go, just get up fine. Time slows down and you're micro-analyzing every movement. I'm not analyzing the movements. I'm analyzing how he stands up. After he gets tackled, I'm like, how are you standing? You get right up. Oh, you took a second.

39:50Jason Moore:He's like, no.

39:52Mike Wright:Christian Watson, target share is ballooned for three weeks.

39:57Andy Holloway:I'm still starting that.

39:58Mike Wright:Christian Watson or Brian Thomas Jr., Jason? Oh. That is really interesting.

40:07Jason Moore:Let me finish finding this data on the weather, and I'll get back to you.

40:14Mike Wright:I'd go Christian Watson. I'd play Watson. Roma Dunsay has not been practicing. It might open up a little bit of a window for DJ more confidence. I'm not going to say Luther Burden confidence, but Luther Burden's possibilities. Yeah, that's fine. And Mr. Loveland. Oh, Mr. Loveland. Averaging five targets for 55 over the last six weeks. I can live with that with touchdown upside. That's passable. Although the Packers, man, they shut that tight end position down.

40:43Andy Holloway:Over the past six weeks, the Green Bay Packers are allowing an average of 4.1 points to the tight end position. That's not a lot. That is.

40:53Mike Wright:That's not a lot. Ooh. And Matthew Golden still plays for Green Bay? Is that, do we think he's, is he on the team?

41:00Andy Holloway:Oh, man. Him and Worthy. They can just. No. Who hit that? No. Who do you think? The Packers fan. Green Bay boy back there. Green Bay boy. No. No. You work on the lights. You don't hit that drop. No. Matthew. I was answering your question. Matthew Golden and Xavier Worthy could just hold hands, skip down the lane, and just be, hey, guys, remember how fast we were? Whoa. Both first rounders, right? Yeah. Whoops. Fast first rounders sometimes go sideways. Yeah. What was Hayward Bay? Yeah.

41:36Jason Moore:At least Xavier Worthy. He was real fast. Xavier Worthy, though. Rugs. Oh, come on. Oh, yeah. That's too fast. Xavier Worthy. Thank you, Swish. No, don't think. Xavier Worthy had production in college. He had production as a rookie and was utilized. Like, Matthew Golden didn't have production. No, I'm just saying Matthew Golden didn't even have college production.

42:00Mike Wright:Well, he still hasn't gotten any targets either. Just like college.

42:07Mike Wright:All right. I think we covered that one. We'll take a break. We'll jump into some more.

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44:15Mike Wright:Los Angeles, the Rams 9-3, the Cardinals 3-9. I mean, why even play it? Why play the game? Yeah. Why play this game? The Rams 8.5-point road favorites over-unders 47.5. I hate the Cardinals.

44:31Andy Holloway:You got to let it go, brother. I hate him. You got to release. I love Jacoby. Release that hate from your heart.

44:37Mike Wright:I love Michael Wilson. I love Trey McBride.

44:39Andy Holloway:Oh, I love Trey McBride.

44:41Mike Wright:And then I'm done. I mean, you could start Bam Knight if you had to start Bam Knight. You know, the Bam Knight, Devin Neal, Bam Knight, Chris Rodriguez. They're close. You know, Kareem Hunt, Bam Knight. Okay. We're in RB3 decision-making territory. yeah all of those players it's who do you well who do you think scores

45:07Andy Holloway:man i think i i would personally would play devon neal over bam and i think i played rodriguez over bam yeah bam knight's been top 20 in three straight weeks he

45:17Mike Wright:seems to i don't know we keep thinking he's hurt and then he keeps having okay games but yeah I don't mind those uh Kyron they're managing him for playoffs you know what they care about right now so Blake Corum does that put him in a flexible category is he not quite there

45:34Jason Moore:the only reason that I think it could be flexible is if the matchup if you know it's the the high spread of the week if they end up just dominating they might want to give Kyron more rest and and Corum more work I would prefer spread of the week uh I believe Cardinals at home yeah the it's it's one of the best teams in the NFL against one of the worst teams in the NFL. So the math checks out. Yeah, it's tied for the highest spread of the week. Yeah, I mean, I would prefer to play someone else other than Blake Corum. He is getting involved and that is impactful for Kyron Williams, but I don't know that he's getting involved enough where you're not going to be happy if he doesn't end up with a touchdown.

46:15Andy Holloway:Opportunities. So it was ramped up there. I mean, you had three games in a of 13 opportunities for him then it dropped to 10 then seven and then seven this past week

46:27Mike Wright:is matthew stafford your start of the week jay yes okay yeah so matthew stafford it should be pretty good against arizona and the nice thing about arizona at least they're gonna lose i mean we know that but they could put up some points you know hopefully jacobio has found a way against even the best opponents to you know seven straight top 12 finishes that's incredible i mean you you

46:47Jason Moore:brought it up sometime this week. Since he's been a starter, his 17-game pace is 5 ,300 yards and 31 touchdowns. That is fantasy goals.

46:59Mike Wright:He's going Jameis. He's going Jameis. Puka, Devontae, play them. Michael Wilson, great opportunity if Harrison misses. Even if he doesn't miss, I think Michael Wilson's okay. I agree. And you just can't run on the Rams. Houston.

47:16Jason Moore:yeah the only question I was just going to say the only question is if Marvin Harrison plays

47:19Mike Wright:do you view him as a good play or I just think the targets will be there they've been there with Jacoby Brissett they had seven last week before he got banged up I think he's good for eight nine point minimum if he plays Houston seven and five Kansas City six and six Vegas line Kansas City minus three and a half another super consequential game the over-under is just 41 and a half two of the best defenses in football kansas city on the outside looking in they could go sub 500 in this game and huge for houston right they will be tied with one of those other two division mates if they win this game the chiefs have flipped the script on last year remember how annoying always winning the close ones was they're one and six and one score games this oof that's just not a mark of Mahomes and Reed in recent history.

48:15Mike Wright:And the Texans' defense is so tough. Yeah, they're very, very good. This is sort of the kind of matchup that I think is the worst for Kansas City possible. When you don't have Tyreek Hill and you don't have prime Travis Kelsey, I think Rashi Rice is a really, really good player, but he's also not built to function the way that a Jamar Chase, Calvin Johnson, Justin Jefferson is. He's a different player. And I don't know if he's enough on this roster talent-wise to get through a defense like this.

48:51Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, they need a lot out of Travis Kelsey in this game, and it's not a good matchup against tight ends. This is not a good matchup against anybody. I mean, you look on the season, the Texans are hysterically, they're No. 3 against quarterbacks, No. 3 against running backs, No. 3 against wide receivers, No. 3 against tight ends. Who do you have winning the game? I've got the Chiefs. Just because they have to? Yes, exactly. It's the script. I mean, they just have to. They have to win. They don't make the playoffs if they don't win enough games from here on out. And the Chiefs are going to make the playoffs and everybody in the world knows it.

49:22Jason Moore:So it's like they just have to. I don't know how. I could totally see how the Texans who have been playing great and their defense is outstanding could take it to them. But the rules are the rules and they're not allowed to win the game. are you allowed to win a week with Woody Marks in your lineup because this is a it's a rough matchup I would really not want to play Bam Knight, Woody Marks oh two awful matchups that is like I know I would go Woody over

49:53Mike Wright:Bam I think that's Bam Nico Collins has been a top 10 wide out in three or four weeks he's big strong fast good play him in your lineup and then just probably try not to play too many other players in this matchup. Two very good defenses, and it will be cold outside.

50:16Andy Holloway:Nico's going to sneak his way back into the top 12. Sneak-o? Okay.

50:21Mike Wright:I'll allow it. Okay. Yeah, Rashi Rice, of course you play him and Nico, but I'm kind of nervous about everybody else, including the quarterbacks.

50:29Jason Moore:I would agree.

50:31Mike Wright:Would you play Lamar or Patrick Mahomes? No.

50:36Jason Moore:Oh, Houston still hasn't given up a top 12, right? They have not the entire season. And they've had a... And Mahomes was number one last week. I would go Mahomes.

50:47Mike Wright:Kyle says he has the exact decision in our chopped league. Oh, yes. You have Mahomes-Lamar decision, Kyle?

50:52Jason Moore:I would play the healthy quarterback. Yeah, Kyle, which way are you leaning right this second, Kyle?

50:59Mike Wright:Right now I have Mahomes in, but my heart wants Lamar.

51:04Jason Moore:Don't screw it up.

51:06Mike Wright:Philadelphia, Monday Night Football taking on the Chargers. Both teams 8-4. Philly 2.5-point road favorites. The over-under is 41.5. Since the bye week, the Eagles have scored 10, 16, 21, and 15 points. Oh, blarf. All their games are hitting the under. This one's at 41.5, so it's adjusted. This would be the lowest of any of those matchups. Both teams are really good in one-score games. Philly 7-2. Los Angeles 4-1. The Chargers offensive line is a major concern, but we just found out yesterday that Jalen Carter is out in this game for Philadelphia. And, you know, this was the Scadaboo game, right?

51:46Mike Wright:That Scadaboo had the three touchdowns against Philadelphia. Jalen Carter missed that game. Well, technically he played. He technically played. He spat his way out. Yeah, he played a snap, and then Scadaboo went crazy. It does change. One snap, one spat. Yeah, it just changes the way I look at Hampton. because if you're talking about committee, we heard it would be committee with Bucky Irving. It ended up being all Bucky Irving. I don't think Hampton has the kind of established. Right, yeah, yeah.

52:13Andy Holloway:You don't have enough film on him.

52:15Mike Wright:No, but I do think that it does open the door. It cracks the door open to where I'm like, okay, if I am staring down the Devin Neal, if I'm staring down the Bam Knight, Kareem Hunt, Woody Marks. Or Hampton. My heart wants to go Hampton in this match. I would play Hampton. At home.

52:28Jason Moore:So the question, and Jalen Carter being out confirms it. Can you play Vidal Sassoon as well as Hampton? They have come out and said that he's played like a number one. He deserves what he's gotten because he's, I mean, Vidal's been playing very well. You look at what happened last week against the Eagles where you had Monungay and Swift just run all over them.

52:52Andy Holloway:Yeah, but that was the line.

52:54Jason Moore:No, I agree. You're going from a great offensive line in Chicago to a just depleted, injured, missing offensive line for the Chargers.

53:02Mike Wright:Red light, green light narrative says this will be a bad one for Vidal.

53:05Jason Moore:It's held true too long to ignore.

53:07Mike Wright:It's held true since week six. Great, bad, great, bad, great, bad. You just got the great.

53:12Jason Moore:Man, I want to play Hampton so bad.

53:15Mike Wright:Right, don't we all? You know, if he comes back, I want to throw him out there.

53:20Jason Moore:Okay.

53:22Mike Wright:Saquon or R.J. Harvey, if you had that decision? Saquon has been just kind of okay.

53:26Jason Moore:I would play R.J. Harvey. It's a great matchup. He's got the chance for touchdowns, and Barkley is going to get more work than R.J. Harvey for sure. But the touchdown upside, I mean, man, Saquon has not been very good this year.

53:42Andy Holloway:The Chargers against running backs on the season is not great, but they have tightened it up in the last six weeks.

53:48Mike Wright:You see the huge limited shoulder injury situation? I see it now. Yeah, Quentin Johnston was limited on Thursday. We'll keep monitoring that. I don't know if it was in practice injury or something he's taken care of, but we hadn't seen that before. You're always kind of looking for some insight, I think, with the Chargers in terms of can you bend towards Gadsden having a good game or Keenan Allen being involved. I think Ladd McConkie is the one that's confirmed solid, good to go. But in a matchup like this, that might be where you stop the conversation. Yeah. And Justin Herbert, let's not forget, Justin Herbert, if he plays in this game he is playing in this game one week removed from hand surgery and um it's a little bit concerning it's a pain tolerance thing who do you have winning this game i almost pushed the button but i i just don't the push comes to shove of this offensive line and then the defensive pressure from the eagles i that's how i see i don't have the conviction in this one.

54:47Mike Wright:I see it really heads up. I might even lean the Eagles. Yeah, I would take them. AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, you put them in your lineup? Yeah. The offense has not been great, but you've got to play those guys. And I'm not sure there's other start-sit decisions we haven't talked about.

55:04Andy Holloway:I mean, yeah. Well, Dallas Goddard, he stopped getting away with it. Stopped scoring touchdowns like crazy.

55:13Mike Wright:Yeah. Oh, we have updates.

55:15Jason Moore:Yeah, we've got a few.

55:16Mike Wright:Worthy. breaking news not about worthy but worthy updates uh marvin harrison jr has been ruled out oh my gosh also over under 18 targets yeah um in addition to that cardinals news uh there was

55:31Jason Moore:just reported kyler murray not expected to play again this season as he's quote not progressed

55:36Mike Wright:as they had hoped you see his uh his tiktok yeah he said weird year never again yeah and i don't know what the never again means probably cardinals playing for the cardinals it's definitely in the

55:48Jason Moore:realm of possibilities um also update um reminding myself of now that we're back into the cold weather months if there is not wind and there is not uh snow and rain cold freezing weather does not really have a big impact okay so i i would to answer that question earlier christian watson and Brian Thomas, I'd be on the Christian Watson side.

56:13Mike Wright:Don Kincaid will be questionable for Week 14. Trey Benson is ruled out for the Cardinals as well. Oh, he is? Yeah. Okay. Trey Benson is participating in practice.

56:22Jason Moore:On the Trey Benson news, we've been saying – That's a bummer. Well, we've been saying –

56:27Mike Wright:You are, like, so upset about Trey Benson's absence.

56:30Jason Moore:Well, it's a shame because he had the opportunity –

56:32Andy Holloway:I think he would dominate.

56:33Jason Moore:Yeah, to be really, really good. It feels like it'll be Connor again next year.

56:37Andy Holloway:Maybe. It could be after that contract.

56:39Jason Moore:He is not technically unallowed to play again this season. Oh, because of when they started the 21 days? Because when they started, he has until Wednesday. So if they activate him by Wednesday, he could still come back this season.

56:52Mike Wright:That's good to know.

56:53Andy Holloway:Yeah, because people are like, should I just full drop Trey Benson right now? I guess the answer is just keep it on your IR for now. Wednesday night, you should.

57:01Mike Wright:We can't possibly have enough time for another segment, do we? Oh, we can do this forever.

57:09Jason Moore:Fantasy Face-Off, presented by PrizePix.

57:16Mike Wright:Any chance Al wants to do the shame just because of the whole massive lighting snafu? Not a chance. Okay.

57:28Jason Moore:Wheel of Shame.

57:34Mike Wright:By the way, I tried pretty hard not to be the shame this week. We tied on Sunday. Well, actually, no. We tied on Thanksgiving.

57:44Jason Moore:Tied on Thursday.

57:45Mike Wright:Tied on Sunday. And then we... Almost tied on Monday. Almost tied on Monday, but I freaking won, Dale. You did it. I'm the shame again. Spin it. Spin the stupid, stupid, stupid wheel. And don't pick a mask that's going to cut my face open. But you might have. All right. Hishman Cup? What does that say? Happy little trees, man. Oh, it's a little Bob Ross.

58:04Jason Moore:Hey. Nice.

58:06Mike Wright:Oh, do I get the beard? Oh, yeah. Of course you have. Very nice. Do Grizzly Adams have a beard? Yeah.

58:13Jason Moore:Oh, look good. Oh, boy. That's going to be real comfy. Oh, that looks itchy. Oh, man. It's very itchy.

58:19Mike Wright:Wait, this is a Bob Ross? Yeah, that's a Bob Ross. I mean, it's Bob Ross. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

58:24Andy Holloway:What's all this Bob Ross talk? Yeah, it's just happy little trees. It's a guy with some curly hair. Help him out.

58:31Jason Moore:Help him out, Matt. And you got a paintbrush. Very nice. this is so stupid it's pretty bad

58:40Andy Holloway:you can step into the shot Matt it's okay no he's got his bare legs showing you actually look better have you

58:49Mike Wright:considered this look I think my dad looked like this in the 70s no joke the beard looks good on you but that hair I want you to understand how much how much fake hair I'm ingesting it's an incomprehensible amount mind you I also might not even have a good lineup this week. Because let's start at quarterback. My quarterback pick of the week is Marcus Mariota, more than 211 passing yards. Stick with it. This is going to be just a live pivot. Whoever's starting. Whoever's starting. Whatever their projection is. Whatever their projection is, I'm taking them more. I like what I've seen from the Washington passing offense with Mariota, and I'm not going to lose confidence with Jaden coming in if that's the case.

59:39Mike Wright:So that's where I'm going to go. Let me just put that down here.

59:42Jason Moore:Mine is Jacoby Bursette. His projection is 248 and a half yards. He has not not hit that in forever. Not not. Not not. Who's there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Slam dunk. Oh, yeah. So I'm taking more than that. Obviously, no Marvin Harrison. Some banged up people around him. That one is my most fearful projection is Jacoby Brissett. But I'm taking more than 248 and a half.

1:00:09Andy Holloway:I was very thrilled, Jason, to hear you say that cold weather alone will not affect things. Jordan Love? No, Joshua Allen.

1:00:17Jason Moore:Oh, but snow does affect things.

1:00:18Andy Holloway:Yeah, but it's just, it's a little bit. It's fine. Okay. Josh Allen, 19 completions. We're taking them more.

1:00:26Mike Wright:Okay. Okay. All right.

1:00:28Andy Holloway:I'm willing this into existence. This is Burrow versus Allen for everyone. You're welcome.

1:00:33Mike Wright:I'm going to go to the wide receiver position just because I have a – oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. This is worse than the last one. Terry McLaurin is my green goblin 3.5 receptions. I'm taking the more.

1:00:50Jason Moore:Okay. I have three and a half receptions as well, but mine is not a green goblin. It's Christian Watson's projection. and I am happy to hear that the cold weather does not. I think three and a half receptions for Christian Watson should be very doable.

1:01:04Andy Holloway:My wide receiver, it is my Green Goblin. It's Alec Pierce, two and a half receptions. I'm taking the more.

1:01:11Mike Wright:Running back, I'm going Chase Brown. I'm taking the longest rush from Chase Brown against Buffalo. I'm going more than 12 and a half yards. Okay.

1:01:21Jason Moore:Okay, that'll be a fun one to monitor as the game goes along. um this one i think is i i love it i feel like i feel like it was broken bad projection two and a half receptions for bucky irving i'm going more than that um i think last week comes to yeah yeah of course in here of course whenever i'm uh fully uh bullish but bucky irving i mean he came back

1:01:46Andy Holloway:uh and uh looked healthy so i got uh i got chase brown as well but i'm taking just his overall rushing attempts. It's a 12 and a half. I'm taking them all. So you're both at 12 and a half. It's just attempts versus yards

1:02:00Jason Moore:on a play.

1:02:02Mike Wright:I'm being distracted by Jonathan Gannon on if Kyler Murray will be Cardinals quarterback next year. His quote was, I'm worried about the Rams. His quote

1:02:11Andy Holloway:should be, that won't be my decision because I won't be here because I suck.

1:02:15Jason Moore:That would be a great answer, Mike.

1:02:17Andy Holloway:Just tell people the truth, Gannon. You suck. Oh, I hate that guy. I wish

1:02:23Jason Moore:Now you hate the Cardinals?

1:02:26Andy Holloway:I don't care about the Cardinals. I'm so done with that coaching step. My tight end this week, Darren Waller.

1:02:37Mike Wright:Oh, really? Oh, nice. Goo-goo-ga-joo. I'm going his yardage number, more than 28.5 receiving yards. Nice. That seems pretty good. Yeah, no, I like that a lot. I like it.

1:02:47Jason Moore:I was really close to doing that, but I saw this one for my Green Goblin. Gunner Helm is...

1:02:53Andy Holloway:You're going with a Gunner Helm?

1:02:55Mike Wright:What was the one guy

1:02:57Andy Holloway:you went with? Tommy Trimble. This is your Tommy Trimble. This is a Tommy Trimble part, too. You can pick any of the tight ends.

1:03:02Jason Moore:I know. Let me hear it. Gunner Helm, the Green Goblin. What do you think it's going to be? Is it receptions? 0.5 receptions. No, it's not 0.5 receptions. Is it receptions? It's receptions, yeah. Better be one and a half receptions. One and a half receptions. Okay, that's fine. Four, six, and six receptions the last three games.

1:03:19Andy Holloway:Okay, that's fine. That's fine. Here comes one. Yeah, for sure. The news on Marvin Harrison Missick, that is good news for my projection year. Oh, no. It's Trey McBride, seven and a half receptions. Okay. We're going more. Yeah.

1:03:34Mike Wright:All right. Well, it makes sense. More, more, more, more, more. You want to – I'm eating hair right now, so.

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1:03:56Mike Wright:We'll catch you on Sunday live. Mike will be there ready for week 14 on YouTube.

1:04:02Andy Holloway:No Lamar questions, but I'll see you there. Goodbye.

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