In short
Fantasy Footballers episode for 12/12 covering Week 15 playoff matchups, start/sit decisions, and injury/news notes; includes “Wheel of Shame” and a “Fantasy Forecast” segment.
Guests
Kyle Pitts appears as a guest (Falcons tight end). Hosts are Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright (no other guest names in the transcript).
Guest background
Pitts is discussed as the Falcons’ tight end whose Week 1 playoff performance set a fantasy record: 166.3 points and 3 touchdowns in that game; they cite a tweet from Hayden Winks noting 7% of Pitts’ career fantasy points came in that one outing.
Key claims
Pitts’ ceiling is league-winning (40+ TE points “almost invincible”); Baker Mayfield’s targets to Ricky/Isaiah-like receiver (Ibrahim/“Ibuka” discussed) were mentally affected by drops; Phillip Rivers is mocked as a downfield passer but could still produce PPR volume.
Notable examples
Mike Evans 6-132; Bijan Robinson 8 catches/82 plus a questionable fumble; Carolina RBs (Rico Dowdle vs Chuba Hubbard) hot-hand debate; Seahawks vs Colts spread; Packers vs Broncos with Josh Jacobs return; T.J. Watt hospitalized; T. Higgins concussion hill-watch.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHistoric Performance by Kyle Pitts
0:05 to 0:28
Discussing Kyle Pitts' record-breaking fantasy football performance.
“With a premium design that's thin and light, it feels smooth, very smooth.”
Historic Performance by Kyle Pitts
1:50 to 2:45
Discussing Kyle Pitts' record-breaking fantasy football performance.
“That is the most points a tight end has scored in fantasy football in the history of the world.”
Analyzing the Game Situation
2:45 to 4:25
Breaking down the implications of Pitts' performance and the Falcons' game.
“You did that in listener league for Dalton Kincaid.”
Wide Receiver Performance Review
4:25 to 5:55
Evaluating the performances of various wide receivers from the games.
“I know because I played him and it was under 10 points.”
Quarterback Discussions
5:55 to 7:55
Conversations about the struggles and capabilities of quarterbacks.
“And so it's causing him to not throw it like he's.”
Injury Updates and Fantasy Impact
7:55 to 10:00
Reviewing player injuries and their potential impact on fantasy lineups.
“I mean, you could get a 50-50 ball where the wide receiver goes up and wins.”
Concluding Thoughts and Final Lineup Decisions
10:00 to 14:03
Final thoughts on players and strategies for the upcoming games.
“Yeah, find your champ and give it to him of your league, unless it's you, in which case we'll still allow you to use it.”
Injury Updates and Reactions
14:03 to 15:28
Learn about the latest injury news impacting fantasy players and hear reactions.
“CMC limited due to illness sleeper Love your platform.”
Week 15 Matchups Analysis
17:13 to 23:04
Deep dive into the critical matchups for Week 15 and their fantasy implications.
“Fantasy Forecast, presented by PrizePix.”
Playoff Scenarios and Player Decisions
23:04 to 28:00
Discuss playoff scenarios for teams and critical player start/sit decisions.
“Well, this last week he had two rushing touchdowns, 55 yards.”
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Analyzing Team Strategies and Playoff Implications
28:00 to 29:32
Explore the evolving dynamics of analytics in sports and their impact on team strategies.
“But really, if you just want to be analytics, dude, it's like the second you're eliminated, lose every game you can to get the best pick.”
Injury Updates and Player Performance Discussions
29:32 to 31:01
Get the latest updates on player injuries and how they affect matchups.
“Jason's nodding like he knows what it is.”
Matchup Analysis: Colts vs. Seahawks
31:01 to 32:56
An in-depth look at the upcoming Colts vs. Seahawks game and key player insights.
“This is not a situation where I think you're going to see a team, they were in the lead in that game.”
Quarterback Projections and Strategies
32:56 to 34:29
Discuss quarterback projections and strategic implications for fantasy teams.
“The largest of Sam Darnold's career in terms of him being a favorite.”
Trade Strategies and Player Hype
34:29 to 41:00
Understanding the importance of player hype and trade strategies during the season.
“That means it is difficult for him to get one of those.”
Final Thoughts on Player Lineups
41:15 to 42:00
Discuss final lineup decisions and player matchups for the upcoming week.
Fantasy Decisions: Charbonnet vs. Pittman
42:00 to 43:36
Explore the debate over playing Charbonnet or Michael Pittman in fantasy lineups.
“You've got Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman, and you are playing both?”
Analyzing the Green Bay vs. Denver Matchup
43:36 to 46:02
Discussion on the performance and strategies of Green Bay and Denver ahead of their game.
“So that means getting Josh Jacobs to work and get him, you know, in game shape.”
Player Insights: Broncos and Packers
46:02 to 49:03
Insights into key players from both teams, including Cortland Sutton and RJ Harvey.
“Over the last six weeks they've gotten better.”
Minnesota vs. Dallas Showdown
49:03 to 51:00
Previewing the high-scoring potential of the Minnesota-Dallas game.
“But then the majority of the time, you're like, well, I lost because Jaden Reed.”
Pittsburgh vs. Miami Overview
51:00 to 53:12
Discussing the implications of the Pittsburgh vs. Miami matchup for fantasy players.
“And so I think the fact that he's done very little the last two weeks, they're going to try to get him the ball on some easy stuff.”
Injury Updates and Final Thoughts
53:12 to 56:00
Final discussions on injuries affecting players and insights into upcoming games.
“Joe Burrow is in a – Joe Burrow could be in a dark place right now.”
Injury Updates and Player Performance
56:00 to 1:01:00
Discusses recent injuries and player performances impacting fantasy football lineups.
“This sounded like a practice-oriented thing.”
Fantasy Face-Off Segment
1:01:00 to 1:05:27
Engages in a Fantasy Face-Off segment predicting player performances and matchups.
“He's got a helmet and is this like a ski mask?”
Transcript
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1:09Jason Moore:Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
1:27Mike Wright:Welcome in.
1:35Mike Wright:Never a dull moment. Friday, December 12th. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Jason Moore is here. Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Kyle Pitts is here. Oh, man. Kyle Pitts.
1:57Jason Moore:What was that all about? What was that? What? That is the most points a tight end has scored in fantasy football in the history of the world. Because it dates back to 1983, and I don't think real fantasy football was going, you know. Whoa. Okay, sure. Tell that to Grandpa. Yeah. To the Raiders organization. Whatever. in the last 40 years. That's the most fantasy points ever scored by a tight end. It happened in the first week of the playoffs. Did you see 150 and three coming from? No, no, I didn't. I've got them as my tight end four on the week. Sorry, that was insulting.
2:35Mike Wright:166 and three.
2:37Jason Moore:This is a place where now we're going in to the first week of the playoffs with three situations. You benched Kyle Pitts. Whoops-a-doozled.
2:49Mike Wright:You did that in listener league for Dalton Kincaid.
2:51Jason Moore:I did that in my League of Record for Mark Andrews. Whoopsies. You played Kyle Pitts, and you now are feeling like you're almost on a bye week. Yeah, you're almost invincible. Almost invincible if you get 40 points at the tight end position from Kyle Pitts. Or you played against Kyle Pitts, in which case. Wow. I've got a lot of information about fishing rods now.
3:14Mike Wright:It's just so fantasy football. Oh, man. Mike, I think you told me it was 7 % of his career points in one game.
3:22Andy Holloway:A tweet from Hayden Winks. The stats, you could just keep rattling a lot. Oh, they're so fun. But the Hayden Winks one, he tweeted out, 7 % of Kyle Pitt's career fantasy points happened.
3:33Mike Wright:I believe it's his first 100-yard game since 2021. So just yardage-wise, like it was inexplicable. It was outrageous. And on top of that, it was a win by the Falcons in a game they shouldn't have won. that Tampa needed desperately, that Carolina fans are singing and dancing in the streets about. Yeah.
3:54Jason Moore:And. That Tampa was up by 14 late in the fourth, that they were on a final drive with a third and 28, a fourth at 14. And kids don't listen to Todd Bowles' press conference afterwards. That is. It's not for sensitive ears? No, it's. He held nothing back. Yeah. That's rated R.
4:14Mike Wright:Baker was not. I mean, he was okay. The pressure on Baker was significant. If you played Bucky, you're pretty much unhappy. I know because I played him and it was under 10 points. And so, you know, you only got one catch from him. The wide receivers, it was all Mike Evans. I mean, Mike Evans was 6 for 132, 12 targets. Abuka was next up at 4 for 61.
4:42Andy Holloway:We are inevitable, Mike. Dino Jr. Junior, we played Evans. Abuka was... Bijan was outrageous. Abuka was fine. Not anything close to what I still thought would happen.
4:53Mike Wright:All three of his non... So he was four out of seven targets, which is an incredible increase for him. Caught four of seven. The three he did not catch were not catchable. Correct. It was over his head by 20 yards. One of them was a touchdown, right?
5:08Andy Holloway:Am I remembering? I thought there was an end zone target.
5:10Mike Wright:There was an end zone target, but it should be illegal to call it a target. It was so, it was the top of the.
5:16Andy Holloway:Ibuka was standing in the end zone when a football went flying past him.
5:21Jason Moore:Yeah, it's so wild because last night, I mean, if Baker was throwing to Chris Godwin on point, on the money, in stride every time, and it's like you're throwing to Ibuka, I think there's, you know, we talk about, and this I believe is genuine, when a wide receiver has a couple drops and they start dealing with that, They're human beings. The mental aspect of like, oh, no. I think that's going on with Baker when he targets Ibuka right now. He's going like, I have to get him. I've got to get him. And it's like. Like this has to be perfect? Yeah. And so it's causing him to not throw it like he's.
5:59Jason Moore:Like, it didn't matter who else he threw the ball to. It was okay. Unless it was Ibuka, then it's not catchable.
6:04Mike Wright:Bijan had eight catches himself for 82 yards, 19 for 93, and a touchdown.
6:09Andy Holloway:Including a super boss that they said didn't count. You got to count it. That catch on the side, the one hand. Oh, that was awesome. I mean, it was totally out of bounds. No, he had a foot in.
6:19Jason Moore:He also had a very questionable fumble. I mean, it was like. Two weeks in a row for Bijan on the fumbles. But that was like, it wasn't. It was an incomplete pass, in my opinion.
6:32Mike Wright:Well, I mean, they did review it.
6:34Jason Moore:Oh, I know, I know. I mean, they reviewed the Isaiah Likely. I mean, those two things were very different, the Isaiah Likely and the Bichon.
6:43Mike Wright:But it was a fumble, you know?
6:45Jason Moore:I don't think it was. Watch it in real speed.
6:47Mike Wright:But it was a fumble. But he didn't catch it yet. Yeah, but it was like a fumble.
6:51Jason Moore:I know it was credited as a fumble. No, no, no.
6:53Mike Wright:I just mean like he caught it and then you're just saying he didn't take enough steps.
6:57Jason Moore:I need to go watch it again. I'm just saying like he did catch it, right? Watch it in full speed and I promise you'll be like, yeah, that's an incomplete. has anyone
7:07Andy Holloway:worked harder to get the ball 20 yards down the field than Kirk Cousins that guy is that's a weighted football every ounce of him is trying to throw that football and that thing just goes and that's exactly why Jason has confidence
7:24Mike Wright:in the seven years as senior
7:27Jason Moore:Phillip Rivers I was thinking about this on the drive in today on the drive in today I realized like Like, Phillip Rivers cannot throw a ball downfield. He cannot challenge downfield. There is no world where his 44-year-old hasn't thrown a ball in five years arm is able to make a pass that travels more than 20 air yards. With speed. With speed. That's, like, not picked off. I mean, you could get a 50-50 ball where the wide receiver goes up and wins.
7:59Andy Holloway:No out routes. You can't run a single one.
8:02Jason Moore:Oh, that's called a pick. Yes.
8:03Mike Wright:There was some talk of him winning, throwing competitions when he was training Drake May before the season. Also, he's playing. Against people his age. Against Drake May. Against Drake May. He's playing. Oh, he's going to play, and you're going to lose all your bets.
8:19Jason Moore:Not all of them.
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8:20Mike Wright:Well, I bet you didn't put him in your price picks lineup.
8:23Jason Moore:I did not yet, but I'm going to make another one with him in it. I'm doing it right now. You can't tell me what I can do. We are celebrating Phillip on the YouTube. Oh, look at the back wall. If you hadn't seen it yet.
8:33Andy Holloway:Oh, P. River. That looks pretty good. That is an authentic, game-worn Philip Rivers jersey.
8:43Jason Moore:To be fair, it's not P.E.E. No, but it's also, I know I had a problem with pluralization, but it should be P. Rivers. No, it's P. River. That's it? We shortened both? Yes. Yeah, just forever. It was a long time ago, guys. Forgive me for not remembering half a decade ago. Kyle posted the video for us to watch. I didn't watch it. I would never watch that.
9:07Andy Holloway:Because of your weight? You're not going to put the work in, and then you're going to be upset that you don't know the answers.
9:12Jason Moore:I am just surprised at what we did.
9:18Mike Wright:It's P. River, man. It's P. River. Because then all the jokes were about wading into P. River and all that stuff. It's Friday, and then there's no more shows.
9:32Mike Wright:Put Clan Friday.
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9:50Jason Moore:From the Pretzels? I hope so.
9:52Andy Holloway:You do good work over there, Joseph L. Joseph, hey, I appreciate your support, and congratulations on the gift card. But, I mean, you can't possibly need that. You're probably wealthy. With that pretzel cash?
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10:26Mike Wright:Woody Marks returned to a limited practice Thursday. Nick Chubb is sidelined. Woody Marks lined up for a monster game. Marvin Harrison Jr. did not practice again on Thursday.
10:40Jason Moore:He's injured. I know that. It's just the...
10:45Andy Holloway:Is it going to happen?
10:48Jason Moore:Is it going to work? Is he going to be a star wide receiver? Is he going to perform as a top five overall draft pick should? no but I do think he will be a legitimate NFL wide receiver one for many years and I think next year next season when he's back starting out as the one he'll he'll be better than he was this year
11:10Mike Wright:and he wasn't that bad this year T Higgins limited again on Thursday concussion seems like he's going to play Roma Dunze limited on Thursday with the foot Mark Andrews added to the injury report on thursday oh no with a glute injury a glute come on man well you didn't um he's got you got other
11:30Jason Moore:options to pits uh i can't because it was thursday night but thankfully i'm actually going to make a
11:37Mike Wright:pivot to likely to likely just because of this glute how do you got to check his glutes out to see if well no no it's not glutes it's glute just singular one butt cheek yes we don't know left or
11:50Andy Holloway:right but we know it's it's doesn't make a difference to you well what one do you yeah
11:55Jason Moore:lean on i think if he's usually i if he's lining up on the right side i'd be far more concerned if
12:01Mike Wright:it's his right glute that's okay this is analysis theo johnson remained limited mike start of the week the toe injury he should play chris rodriguez returned to a limited practice he's been managing injury seems to play through it your start of the week yeah and then cd lamb cleared concussion protocol. He's expected to play on Sunday. Oh yeah, baby. So that's good news, right?
12:21Jason Moore:That is great news. I know it's bad news for you, Andy, because you told me before the show that you are actively rooting against me. I did not actually say that at all. I did not say I'm rooting against him. I apologize. You're rooting for my opponent.
12:33Mike Wright:Yes, because he's never won a championship in 17, 18 years.
12:36Andy Holloway:I will say that is the same thing as rooting against Jason. Right.
12:40Mike Wright:Are you telling me you're rooting for Jason to match your titles?
12:43Andy Holloway:I'm rooting for Jason to win. Yes, Yes, he is. For personal reasons, he doesn't want to face the guy you're rooting for. Because you want to play him. Yeah. But are you rooting for Jason to win a championship?
12:55Mike Wright:No, of course not. You're a bad friend. No, because I'm in.
12:58Jason Moore:If I were out, I would root for Jason. Thank you, Mike. You're a good friend.
13:01Mike Wright:To match your titles? There's no way. I've heard you say this 10 million times. It's too late.
13:07Andy Holloway:You're already in the club. The club is ruined. It was just me hanging out with my chocolate fountain and my cheese fondue. and then you're like hey i'm a three-time champ too and i was like oh you don't like it as much
13:20Mike Wright:no you bring your farts in all right cd lamb cleared concussion protocol jake ferguson did not practice on thursday uh we had christian mccaffrey ferguson yeah dealing with a calf
13:31Andy Holloway:oh that's from limited to to not i have one league where i had to do the pitts versus
13:40Mike Wright:Ferguson decision and thank goodness in that one league I made the right choice but yeah the Ferguson thing is something to watch make sure you have somebody ready to rumble
13:53Andy Holloway:oh dude big colts
13:57Mike Wright:he scored
13:58Jason Moore:see you later
13:59Mike Wright:anyone but Ibuka CMC limited due to illness
14:07Andy Holloway:sleeper Love your platform. Appreciate your updates. When you fire through a notification that only says Christian McCaffrey has been changed from healthy to questionable on a Thursday afternoon. Because he's sick? Absolutely not. Absolutely. Understand with great power comes great responsibility. You gave hundreds of thousands of people. I wonder if heart palpitations, perhaps a stroke. I wonder if one person died. I would not be surprised. If one person around the country was like, it's Christian McGarr. Would not be surprised. Dude, I got that thing, and it was immediately on Twitter. What in the world?
14:53Andy Holloway:Oh, he's sick.
14:54Mike Wright:Yeah, when I heard. My goodness. How dare you? I heard questionable first as well, and I was like, ooh. Yes. Actually, my first thought was, is Mike alive? I promise.
15:05Andy Holloway:Everyone who saw that freaked out. but he's just a little sick. He's okay.
15:10Mike Wright:Josh Jacobs did not practice on Thursday with the knee injury. Devon HM was limited. He'll play on Monday. According to reports, Devante Adams did not practice Wednesday or Thursday with a hamstring. Pay attention to that. Probably veteran management there. He's been able to play through it. And then, um, Camara still sidelined. Lots of news.
15:29Andy Holloway:Devante Adams doesn't need to run very far when he just does routes from the one.
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17:12Andy Holloway:Were you watching Happy Gilmore? It just said that. Devont Adams does have a beard.
17:17Mike Wright:Yeah, that's who got me. Here we go.
17:24Jason Moore:Fantasy Forecast, presented by PrizePix.
17:29Mike Wright:yesterday we covered the browns bears ravens bangles chargers chiefs bills patriots commanders giants raiders eagles jets jags cardinals texans seven more matchups to talk about week 15 playoff matchups guys i need i need your best i know i know normally you're probably given 60 percent I want it. 55! Yeah, but if you round up. I want your best. Okay, got it. Detroit, 8-5, Los Angeles, 10-3. A fun game here. LA minus 6 at home. Over under 54.5. That is respect.
18:07Jason Moore:That is a lot of respect because the Lions are not only a great team in their own right, but they are in a desperately must-win situation here. With a win, their playoff odds are 75%. It's like, okay, we're going. With a loss, it's 40%. So this is really, really important for their chances of playing in the postseason.
18:29Mike Wright:Yeah, and it's a huge over-under, a lot of fantasy goodness to be had in this game. I mean, we've already talked about Jared Goff, who's Jason's start of the week. I believe you said you have Matthew Stafford at two on the week. So these are your... I want this game.
18:45Jason Moore:I mean this is this is one where you just expect the offenses to get it done despite good defenses on both sides of the ball the over the course of the season these two teams have been in a lot of those barn burner matchups those those large scoring you know total high over under what that beats the over under I mean so far this year there's been one game um that was this year this is the first game that is possible to have a 55 point over under and they tend to go very well so yeah i would like to play just about every piece in this game don't we have two this week two what
19:22Mike Wright:or is the other one 52 and a half what one did we talk about yesterday because there was one not this high it was the uh raven's bengals raven's bengals how high is that one it's at 51 and a half okay okay and this one's at 54 and a half right now i mean this is not a complicated game because you have two teams that have injured tight ends. So even more of a consolidation into the wide receiver rooms where you feel really comfortable going beyond the superstars. Amon Ra, Jamison Williams. I mean, after the bye week, Jamison's been wide receiver eight on the year. Puka, Devontae, they're both in.
20:00Mike Wright:You're playing the running backs. And then you look at David Montgomery and Blake Corum. There, I'll give you a decision there. If you had to play Montgomery or Corum,
20:08Jason Moore:I think I might play Coram. I would play Coram. Oh, man, these are two both good rush defenses. I would lean Montgomery. But to be completely frank and honest, I would like to play neither one of these players. I think that there are other guys out there that might be near this tier that I would prefer to play. um you know if if i had devon neal uh kyle monungai uh those type of players chris rodriguez i would play all those over either quorum or montgomery
20:47Mike Wright:i um tony pollard i think quorum's good for 10 to 12 touches it's just a matter of does he i mean last week was arizona tony yeah the last week was arizona tony pollard terrible
20:57Jason Moore:don't dodge my question so to answer to answer mike's question this week is not arizona it's the the Lions that they play, and they're top three against running back. Are you going to play Tony Pollard or are you going to play one of those other guys? Did you have a question, Andy? Because I have answered what I am prepared to answer here.
21:23Mike Wright:I'm giving you as much time as possible. Oh, yeah, no. I know you're doing the calculus.
21:27Jason Moore:I need no more. I need no more time. So what other big decisions are there?
21:32Mike Wright:I don't think there are any in that game. That's the big one. The Tony Pollard one? The Tony Pollard one's the last big question from the game. You don't play Tony Pollard.
21:42Andy Holloway:We need your best here, Jason. This is my best, Michael.
21:46Jason Moore:This is what you get. This is good for Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I mean. I hope he misses another practice today. Tony Pollard is a running back for Tennessee. Yeah, tell me more. Tell me more. He was the running back two last week. Forum was three. I'd go, I'd go, I'd go Tony Pollard. I would too.
22:08Mike Wright:Carolina in the driver's seat for the division right now, taking on the saints, a good chance to win a ball game and, and get to eight and six. The saints are three and 10 Carolina, two and a half point road favorites over under is just 40 and a half. Um, okay, here we go. Carolina. I mean, look at the matchups, uh, the rest of the way new orleans this week tampa seattle tampa yeah it's a it's a tough end of the year for them
22:36Jason Moore:but they control their own destiny now that um the tampa bay buccaneers lost last night technically they are currently in first if they win this game they will definitely be solidly i've got i've got
22:47Mike Wright:the scenarios they clinch if they beat new orleans and then beat tampa bay one time wow so big game um otherwise they need some help if they if they end up splitting with tampa bay and not winning this game against new orleans but basically just like win against new orleans this week and beat tampa one of the times wow and you are in the play Carolina you know it's crazy because that's fun i'm thinking last night about grizzard right he's the third offensive coordinator baker's had in three years you've got duval who is going to the playoffs you know in jacksonville And then you've got Canales on the cusp of the playoffs, like both of those off and he could miss it.
23:31Mike Wright:Tampa could miss it. They could. Tyler Shuck. He's kind of playing well. Yeah. He should have started with him.
23:42Jason Moore:Yeah, for sure. He's been running the ball. Well, this last week he had two rushing touchdowns, 55 yards. I don't know that you can really play him here this is a divisional matchup that I'm actually
23:59Andy Holloway:excited to watch he put up 19 points on the road against this defense I mean if you're in a two
24:05Jason Moore:quarterback league he's certainly in consideration but I don't believe in the playoffs you're going
24:10Andy Holloway:to be looking for Tyler Shuck in a single I can agree I agree with that but he is he is one of the
24:16Jason Moore:guys I'll be watching this week over the last six weeks the Panthers are number six in fewest fantasy points given up to the quarterback position the matchup the divisional um low breakdown low over under it's just not a game script I want a lot of pieces in which makes it like so Devin Neal Chris Olave those are guys that have been important recently and you're just hoping that maybe it can be a little bit more offensive than you know what the over under anticipates.
24:44Mike Wright:John Johnson won't goose you. He might not win your week like Kyle Pitts could. But John Johnson would be an option if you need a pivot. If the Ferguson situation is happening, like if Ferguson missed, he's an emergency pivot. How are you feeling about the running backs in Carolina? Rico Dowdle, they kind of recommitted to him and said, hey, you're still our guy. Chuba Hubbard had the big game. It was last week, right? I mean, he was running back eight last week. are you playing both players?
25:12Andy Holloway:I think both are definitely in play. Rico or Chuba, heads up. Two weeks ago, because they had the bye week. The heads up, oh man. I think it might be Chuba if it's heads up. But I don't feel really confident deciding between two of them. Because it really will be hot hand. Chuba is a good player. he should see you know more receiving work the receiving work he should but doubt it's not that
25:45Jason Moore:doubt was not getting those they both basically i mean they they shared work they had similar snap percentages last week they both had plenty of opportunity i'm gonna go with the player who has been more dominant on the field which has been rico this year the number five question on
26:00Mike Wright:our start sit tool so the most popular question is devon neal or rico doubt in this game yeah that
26:05Jason Moore:one makes that one makes sense i lean towards devin neal uh 17 opportunities per game since
26:12Mike Wright:the week 11 by you lean devin i lean dowdle mike where do you lean i lean devin neal over the last
26:18Andy Holloway:six weeks the panthers are 27th against running backs there's also a rico dowdle kenneth walker the third question that's near the top of the kin bone it was rough last week it's been that's the
26:32Mike Wright:Indianapolis matchup. I'm thinking with Jason on that.
26:34Andy Holloway:Yeah, I think the matchup, like, second, if it goes the way I think it's going to go, then the second half, they'll just be trying to waste that clock.
26:45Mike Wright:Tedderola McMillan. Yeah.
26:47Andy Holloway:Back at it this week, back into your lineup. It is a tougher matchup. This is what we mean about the Saints defense is you look at the Saints and go, well, that team stinks. They're 3-10. on the season third against fantasy quarterbacks second against fantasy wide receivers this game
27:05Mike Wright:was 17 to 7 the first time they played and i would not be shocked if it was very similar 17 to 10
27:09Jason Moore:20 to 13 something you know yeah totally this is divisional and we we brought it up yesterday both of these defenses are surprisingly better than what like the the the populace believes about them the titans fresh off a w two and 11 take on the san francisco 49ers who are nine and
27:31Mike Wright:four vegas line san francisco minus 12 and a half oh over under 44 and a half san francisco right now the sixth seed in the nfc they get to finish the year against tennessee indianapolis and philip rivers the bears at home and the seahawks at home in a game where i don't know if it'll matter for seattle or not but they could move up them and seattle are five and six in the nfc right now tennessee sitting at dead last in point differential tied for man they are pacing to be tied for the second worst over the last decade nice and yet they still don't have the number one pick now because they chose to win hmm they chose to win it is it is do i want to have this discussion oh it is it's just a funny thing because this the sports world is evolving into analytics right it's like i analytics rule the day and i sometimes i like it sometimes i don't right i i think i think it's a little bit weird you know you listen to sean payton he's going to go gut more than analytics is what he said but if you want to apply analytics to your team when you're eliminated from the playoffs analytics says go lose and we act like it doesn't that is very funny and i know the intangibles of working hard and building camaraderie and those are immeasurable and i'm not i'm not saying you should lose i don't think that's in the spirit to competition, blah, blah, blah.
29:06Mike Wright:But really, if you just want to be analytics, dude, it's like the second you're eliminated, lose every game you can to get the best pick. That's the real best path to a championship from a roster construction perspective. That's really the best thing to do.
29:18Jason Moore:And I think the Titans are going to do it well this week.
29:21Mike Wright:Yeah, I guess that's fair enough. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Uh-oh. Breaking news? The boat? Yeah, I think it's breaking news.
29:33Andy Holloway:Breaking news. Jason's nodding like he knows what it is. No, I don't know. T.
29:37Mike Wright:Higgins, not at Friday's practice. Oh, okay.
29:40Andy Holloway:I mean, we did. You threw it out at the beginning of, like, he was limited again. That seems like on pace. But he ran up the hill. It's still. He did. Yeah, the T. Higgins hill watch. He did run.
29:51Mike Wright:And he looked at the camera and everything.
29:53Andy Holloway:The problem is now he is aware of our analysis of how he handles the hill. So, like, it's all. It's tampered. The experiment is over.
30:03Mike Wright:We dove knee deep into his contract. Most players have a smaller active roster bonus per game. T. Higgins is up at$2 million over the year, so it's like$111 ,000 per game. To play. To play, just to be active. Actually, he can technically not play.
30:21Jason Moore:What percentage of the snaps?
30:22Mike Wright:He can technically just be active on the roster and not play, but yeah. But again, it's up to the team to clear him from a concussion.
30:31Andy Holloway:I still don't know.
30:33Mike Wright:This is maybe he's not playing. Cam Ward, Brock Purdy facing off Tony Pollard last week. I would ignore that as much as you can personally. Tony Pollard is creating a – I mean, it's incredible how many snaps and how inefficient he was for the entire year. One game against Cleveland with a 65-yard run. Just don't get too caught up in it. That's all I'm saying. This is not a situation where I think you're going to see a team, they were in the lead in that game.
31:07Jason Moore:Yeah, that was what it was. I mean, you look at his carries, 10 carries, 11 carries, 10 carries, 25 carries. What's the difference? Despite the massive point differential, and they're usually down every snap, every play, every game, they won that game. They were up. They were like, hey, dude, check this out. We get to hand the ball off. This is what we wish we could do. That's not happening in this game against San Francisco.
31:27Mike Wright:No, San Francisco will be ahead. You'll see Tajay Spears out there. there's just not there's no options on Tennessee that I want none I don't think there's a single
31:35Jason Moore:player that I would play I mean I know I said I would play Pollard over over backup yeah over
31:39Mike Wright:Devin Neal I play Kareem Hunt I play Chuba Hubbard I play Chris Rodriguez I play Devin Singletary
31:44Jason Moore:yeah I'd play yeah and we play but maybe Bam Knight we play some 49ers we you know Kittle will be in I think Brock Purdy is a good start there's there are you know a couple of quarterbacks this week that have those dreadful matchups you know you got here with brissette you know and who's been he hasn't not been a top 12 guy i would play brock purdy over brissette i would too and
32:07Mike Wright:juan jennings is the you could do worse than juan jennings situation he's been inside the top 24 but not inside the top 20 right he scores the yardage has been really low 54 41 39 the last three weeks
32:20Jason Moore:i mean his fancy points have been fine obviously that's touchdown related but that's you're pretty much always getting over 10 fantasy points most often with him the comments on ricky pierce all
32:30Mike Wright:in case you're curious clay kubiak saying it's circumstantial every game's different because he's only five catches on 20 targets since returning in the arizona game we targeted him a lot it's situational he's not doing anything wrong he's practicing his butt off five which
32:44Andy Holloway:is what andrews did it's five catches for 20 yards oh five for 20 i'm sorry uh george kittle four plus receptions in six straight games play him yeah oh yeah this game's pretty easy oh must
32:56Mike Wright:see tv here we go the colts at eight and five the seahawks at ten and three seahawks by 13 and a half according to vegas over under 42 this is the like fourth or 15 this week with like a 16 or lower implied point total indianapolis with 14 and a half implied points oh man get bodied it's the largest spread for the Seahawks over the last five years. The largest of Sam Darnold's career in terms of him being a favorite. Seahawks with 28 implied points and P. River and company.
33:28Jason Moore:Can I tell you how our Sunday goes? Sure. We're going to get to the afternoon games as soon as the witching hour is over and we're going to say, hey, I want to throw the Colts-Seahawks game up on our main screen. Yeah. Let's pivot from the red zone. I want to watch every snap. About six minutes later, we will change back to red zone and go, oh, okay.
33:52Mike Wright:Yeah. Okay. The prize picks projections on Phillip Rivers, which I confirmed none of us have him in the segment later, more or less 152.5 passing yards.
34:07Andy Holloway:Okay.
34:08Mike Wright:0.5 passing touchdowns.
34:10Andy Holloway:Jason's projection was 200. 200. Okay.
34:13Mike Wright:And a 7.5 fantasy score.
34:16Jason Moore:Oh, wow. Wow, gross. It is worth noting the half a touchdown line, which is as low as you can go. They literally can't go below a half, is a goblin, which means it is... It's the red one, right? It's worse odds than normal. Yes, a demon, not a goblin. That means it is difficult for him to get one of those.
34:40Mike Wright:Yeah, look, I don't like Jonathan Taylor in this game. I don't like him at all.
34:45Andy Holloway:And you have, okay.
34:47Mike Wright:I don't like him at all. Where... I know where his, you want to know where his projection is? Spoiler alert, he's in my lineup later. All right? Okay. 71.
34:58Andy Holloway:Oh, you're taking... I just was saying, is there any world where you're willing to play someone else over him? No. Him. No.
35:07Mike Wright:No, because it's one big play. If Tony Pollard can one big play, Jonathan Taylor's not leaving my lineup. but I mean the Seahawks on the year great against running backs better over the last six weeks you know what you do to stop Pea River 37 guys in the box legitimately you stack the box you play close to the line of scrimmage you make him throw the ball more than four yards and you put it all on that right shoulder and what's left of it
35:36Jason Moore:yeah Jason would love to disagree I want to so bad disagree i still see what happened to the man of hope he's thought more he's he's the man he's had
35:48Andy Holloway:more time emotion has worn off and now the whole logic has ran through stupid rational brain and
35:54Jason Moore:been urinated out um into p river yes the the hope here is that you do get hollow ppr value from some of these players that you can get four or five dump offs that you know maybe they won't be a ton of yardage but if you're in a full ppr to to jonathan taylor to michael pitman i i still think you know and and even tyler warren that the passing attempts i mean look they're they're they're projected to lose by almost two touchdowns so maybe philip rivers doesn't get to 200 yards but he might still throw the ball 35 40 times and if they're dink and dunks i think ppr value
36:38Andy Holloway:is what you're hoping for jordan i don't disagree i think that's your path jordan addison against dallas or anyone on the colts addison uh luther burden against cleveland burden unless you're
36:50Mike Wright:talking about warren are you talking about warren i guess not just the way not the tight end position
36:57Andy Holloway:Jaden Reed against Denver
36:59Mike Wright:I'm sorry I have to break in Phillip Rivers' oldest kid is older than Tyler Warren Yeah, I knew that
37:07Jason Moore:He is a grandpa He is literally a grandpa This is Grandpa Rivers Not like a joke Grandpa Rivers is what you would call him
37:16Mike Wright:Officially
37:17Jason Moore:Well, his grandchildren Sorry, Mike I'm so deflated here
37:24Mike Wright:I would say a likely over Tyler Warren.
37:25Jason Moore:What percentage chance? Yeah. What percentage chance? Be realistic, but be real. Could Phillip Rivers come out here and with a quality team, a decent offensive line, Josh Downs, Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor.
37:45Mike Wright:Here's the roster.
37:46Jason Moore:I got it. What percentage of chance could he come out, throw for more than 250, and win the game?
37:54Mike Wright:Write it down, Mike. Oh, okay. 250 and win the game. Write your percentage down for Jason. He needs to – he may add our percentages together to help this out. I've got mine.
38:06Jason Moore:Oh, look at that. 3, 4, 5. I'm the most bullish.
38:10Mike Wright:Jason's down to 4%. I'm at 5%. Phillip Rivers lover. And Jason's at 4%.
38:17Jason Moore:This is where when news breaks of a trade, we talk about it during the season.
38:22Mike Wright:trade on the hype okay there was no hype no there was no it was you that's what i'm saying i was
38:28Jason Moore:you can't trade with yourself no no no this isn't about trading my point is i was like 200 yards is guaranteed i bet you a hundred dollars that he'd be over 200 yards because philip rivers is coming he's got and so i was hyped and so you just when when you pounce on the news right when it's coming out and you don't have time to think you're just hopeful some guy signs some guy gets traded that's when you pounce because a couple days later you might go ah i wish i had a mirror to hold up right now there was one person who was that's all it takes in every league if someone's hyped for say amari cooper getting traded to the bills and wants to give you i'm i am saying this This is what I'm talking to myself, obviously, here.
39:17Jason Moore:I'm saying you need at least one other person who's hyped. Andy didn't. He made a$100 bet. I mean, well, yeah, you only need one. That's true. I'm going to make$100 off of this. Yeah,$200.
39:30Mike Wright:Yeah,$200 because I already sent you the$100. Let's take a break, and then we'll get into a very exciting matchup.
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41:09Mike Wright:uh before we before we went to break we talked a lot about indianapolis we did not talk about the seattle side i don't want to like it's fairly straightforward because jsn's been the only wide receiver you can start um ken walker you talked about earlier but i just i don't want to completely omit them in an important week i guess that's a sam darnold is startable to me ken walker flex JSN must start and then AJ Barner's your emergency tight end I can I think that there is a sneaky
41:41Andy Holloway:world where Charbs is in play here too for multi-touchdown opportunity when we were looking
41:47Jason Moore:at the the David I have David Montgomery and Charbs on my league record team man and I am if I if I am forced to play one of those two I will play Charbs over over David Montgomery but the question is would you play charbs or david montgomery over michael pitman
42:05Andy Holloway:with the with ppr utilization yes yeah i think i would yeah i just i i'm not going out with like that i'm not going out with philip rivers philip rivers can't hurt me if i don't play pitman i mean he still came with johnny taylor daggummit this is gonna be a tough week i mean
42:26Mike Wright:Let's just help the Foot Clan out. You've got Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman, and you are playing both?
42:35Jason Moore:Currently, I do not believe so. I think I'm going to play Charbonnet. Over Pittman. You have both? In the flex, I've got all of them. I guess, looking at my roster, I am going to have to play Michael Pittman. Daggummit. So you're double. I'm double. Why not just stay delusional? Yeah, I should have. I should Philip you're so great Green Bay 9-3-1 Denver 11-2 Roma Dunze Roma Dunze plays this week you're playing Rome who hasn't scored jack squat yep with a broken foot with a broken foot you're playing him over Pittman yeah I think so
43:14Andy Holloway:we'll both agree oh man
43:18Jason Moore:this is
43:19Andy Holloway:hey it's your we tell the foot we're trying to help you make the best decisions that you can make for your team it's your team thank goodness cd's back
43:36Mike Wright:green bay denver vegas line green bay minus two and a half on the road over under 42 and a half green bay is just playing really well and the return of watson now jayden reed you know it's helped a lot i'm gonna say a bunch of stuff it's not about you jason but the best thing for Green Bay is to make sure they're playoff ready.
43:59Jason Moore:So that means getting Josh Jacobs to work and get him, you know, in game shape. What is happening?
44:08Mike Wright:Packers have won four straight. December is a great month for Matt LaFleur. They're favored on the road in Denver. I mean, this is a lot of respect to what Green Bay has got going on right now and the fact that Denver's been – they're 11-2, but they've been really up and down. so you know the broncos record wise is amazing they've won a bunch of games in a row they are dominating the one score games they've played close games do you have a take on this one mike on who wins this ball game i think green bay wins jordan love's been a top 12 quarterback in three or four weeks bo nicks right now sitting at quarterback eight on the season despite only one top 12 performance since week nine a lot of people drafted bo nicks with the plan of making him an every week starter those plans have changed mike you're not living that life anymore i would pivot like i would be you know lawrence uh let's see i mean stroud against arizona i would probably
45:03Andy Holloway:consider doing that mariota against the giants i would strongly consider that as well green bay's mario is a very good play green bay's defense it's like it's like the philly defense It is terrifying. Your guy could go out, and you get the one performance against that defense of the year. But in the game of probability, I will go with someone else. The wild thing is that Denver and New England are both at home,
45:32Mike Wright:both fighting for the one seed in the AFC and both underdogs at home. So the teams that the Broncos have played and won against, davis mills and geno twice and mariota and fields there's been some easy ones in there the broncos are a weird team they are they're a good team a good defense they are
45:56Andy Holloway:rj harvey but offense can be very good it's just it it ebbs and flows throughout the entirety of
46:02Mike Wright:the game i don't know why you don't get you don't have one game where they come out and score 57
46:05Jason Moore:points or something crazy honestly i think rj harvey's literally the only player i want to play and that includes Cortland Sutton. Cortland Sutton has scored 10 fantasy points twice in the last two months and now they're playing against a team that has been on the course of the season the Packers are top 10 against quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends. Over the last six weeks they've gotten better. They're top five against them. You're not going to have Pat Bryant. I would imagine that doesn't really have an effect on Sutton so much.
46:37Mike Wright:I pretty much agree with you. as uh and i think harvey is harvey's a little bit riskier than he seems i think this week i think harvey is scary but he over under it's 42 i mean this man this game could be this could be a dog fight yeah yeah oh two great defenses quarterbacks at each throw for one touchdown and jacobs i think
46:58Jason Moore:the line is perfect 42 and a half that seems like are you playing emmanuel wilson if jacobs is out
47:03Mike Wright:yes even though it's dimmer number one in the last six weeks against running backs yeah i i still
47:09Jason Moore:would when when jacobs was out we saw wilson get an extreme amount of volume and he's played well with it so if jacobs doesn't play i mean i will be playing against wilson but you can play wilson
47:21Mike Wright:if you like quorum in his current situation or emmanuel wilson by himself oh definitely wilson
47:25Andy Holloway:and a reminder this is the afternoon game so if you're sunday morning you know when we we send out our uh what do we call this the sunday morning updates of like the game alert the game yeah thank you game day alerts sunday live how you doing back there al you doing good i'm doing all right nice uh we won't know i we may not know a hundred percent if josh jacobs is playing so you better have an afternoon or sunday night monday night pivot or just go pick up emmanuel wilson
47:57Mike Wright:Christian Watson has been on fire.
47:59Jason Moore:Oh, it's just so easy, Mike. How do you just pick up Emmanuel Wilson?
48:03Mike Wright:Oh, you can't do that.
48:05Jason Moore:No, because my opponent has him.
48:08Andy Holloway:We're at like six weeks of me at least once a week going, pick up your insurance running backs right now. You didn't try very hard. Apparently not hard enough. You thought you could get away with it.
48:23Mike Wright:This is like an exposure therapy thing going on for Jason right now. He is in the, this is the hardest show you've ever had to do. It looks like you are just barely making it through.
48:33Jason Moore:I need to lose this week because I can't handle this anymore. Just get it over with. Kill me.
48:39Andy Holloway:I have Samaj P. right on my bench, Jason, because I have Chase Brown. Yeah, no, I get it.
48:45Jason Moore:I get it. Not everyone has had to deal with as many injuries and problems and have to use their bench. You've had a pretty easy path. Not all of us have.
48:56Mike Wright:oh man yeah i mean i think those are the main players in this game jayden reed i'm still keeping my eye on jayden reed i really am i need i need to see he was only 47 of the time out there got four catches last week that's normal for him yeah it is but it's also normal to consider playing him i mean the past two years wide receiver 23 and 26 so you're getting lots of fantasy relevant games from jayden reed when he's healthy and active when when he and now no josh jacobs i'm telling you jayden reed is going to surprise this time when jayden reed spikes it is
49:34Andy Holloway:weak winning type stuff but it's he's all he's he's i mean he's a d in the consistency so always 35 of his games he's over 10 and a half points so 35 of the time around that he gives you a week where you're like, holy crap, Jaden Reed really helped me win. But then the majority of the time, you're like, well, I lost because Jaden Reed.
49:57Mike Wright:So close to making him a touchdown guarantee in this one. Dude. But that's not what I'm going to do. That's wild stuff. It's just a tough game. Sunday night football, Minnesota-Dallas. Minnesota 5-8, Dallas 6-6-1, hanging on for dear life. Dallas minus 5-1⁄2 over under 48-1⁄2. Dallas Cowboy games have averaged 59 combined points per game delicious and eight of the last 10 have hit the over that's because they don't have a defense and they do have an offense and those work well we know CeeDee Lamb's going to be back in this game for the love of everyone's mental health JJ throw to JJ yeah you have the same initials just throw it to him
50:42Jason Moore:I made it my start of the week. This is a team that, you know, against wide receivers has given it up every single week. Justin Jefferson, they don't, you know, he came out and was like, we don't care about fantasy. We care about winning. That's great and dandy, but I know you care about your stats. I know you don't like people complaining about you right now. Yeah, you don't want to be out there doing nothing. And so I think the fact that he's done very little the last two weeks, they're going to try to get him the ball on some easy stuff. And against an easy defense, he'll do special stuff.
51:10Mike Wright:Yeah. Yep. um Javante on the other side he's the RB7 on the year it's it's kind of wild to look back and and see what he's done his numbers have come down since mostly since CeeDee Lamb's been healthy and they've had the receiving game but if there's no Jake Ferguson maybe they lean a little bit more on Javante yeah possible still been in the double digit averages since week nine what do you do with the running backs for Minnesota because I I've had some people ask me questions about Aaron Jones I've pretty much chosen somebody else. It stinks because Aaron Jones should be a must play
51:49Andy Holloway:in this type of a matchup where they've been better against running backs. What was it, 59? When a game is averaging, and a game environment is averaging 59 points, you want everybody in there.
52:05Jason Moore:But it's usually in the passing game, especially since the trade deadline when Dallas beefed up there. their D line. They have not been that one, right? They have not been a sieve on the ground, but they, they did not fix the secondary. So, um, yeah, I don't think I want to play Jordan Mason or,
52:21Andy Holloway:or Aaron Jones and Aaron Jones limited Wednesday and Thursday with the shoulder. He's kind of been getting hurt a lot in game. Uh, not, you know, not enough to just completely take him out, but it is a concern. Um,
52:39Mike Wright:man, Man, JJ, it's time to go. You need JJ this week because you need Dallas to score.
52:47Jason Moore:I need CeeDee Lamb with two touchdowns. This is the way.
52:51Mike Wright:Other starts hit decisions in this game?
52:53Jason Moore:There's not much. I mean, I don't think you're playing Hawkins despite getting a touchdown last week. You're not banking on that. Ferguson, if he plays, otherwise have a pivot.
53:04Mike Wright:Monday night football, guys. Miami, 6-7 against Pittsburgh. 7-6. Vegas line, Pittsburgh minus 3 over under is 41.5. Oh, yeah. Andy's almost upset of the week.
53:26Andy Holloway:Yes. Just feels right. We need to – this is for Joe Burrow. Our man is down. Joe Burrow is in a – Joe Burrow could be in a dark place right now. We need the Steelers to lose. We need any ounce of hope that Joe Burrow can have in his life. Sorry, Steelers fans.
53:46Mike Wright:Miami's been playing well. They've been getting it done. Devon A. Channel playing this game. I don't even know who the Steelers are. I think sometimes they're okay. Sometimes they look all right. We got news yesterday that T.J. Watt was in the hospital.
54:03Jason Moore:He's not going to play this week. He's not? No. Yesterday, Tomlin was saying he's not sure. Today. Breaking news. Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur says Josh Jacobs will play football. Practice in a limited capacity on Friday. Oh, man. Everything is not enough. Everything. Just put the man in. Give him like 30 to 50 carries. You've got to keep him warm. You don't want that thing to tighten up. This is my favorite bit of the season, just getting to do this to Jason. It's so much fun. Today's the last day you get. Well, it's probably not. Oh, my gosh. It's not. Sunday morning, every day.
54:48Jason Moore:It never ends. Oh, my gosh. Do you want to do Sunday Live this week? No, I can't. I couldn't do it. Mike's fine. Mike's like, I'm bye everywhere. He's going to come in here like, hey, everybody.
54:59Mike Wright:What a great week. You were in the middle of updating the TJ Watt injury situation.
55:03Jason Moore:Yeah, so everything that is coming out most recently is that it would be darn near impossible for him to play. He's still currently hospitalized with a long issue. We don't know a lot of the details. There's speculation right now. But most of the doctors I've seen speculate, including the former San Diego medical trainer, he does not anticipate that he could play this week. He didn't get tie-rotted, did he? uh no i i think that that was because i he was asked kind of that question and it was
55:36Andy Holloway:that he does not think that that is what's going on if you do not remember like punctured his lungs the i mean years ago when justin herbert was drafted in the first round and not starting right away taylor had to get he was hurt he was named the starter he was hurt yeah as as taylor always is and but he was trying to numb up and he took a shot he took a shot to the lung and it and it it punctured and deflated his lung yeah i think the speculation that was more like just to
56:06Jason Moore:be clear that was a physical shot yeah not and also to be clear not from a gun but like from a
56:12Mike Wright:needle yeah yeah well when you say a shot i mean that's like like an injection yeah that was like language you're getting hit oh sorry no an injection no he got an injection yeah that
56:21Andy Holloway:But, yeah, so hopefully that's not what happened.
56:23Mike Wright:This sounded like a practice-oriented thing. How do you feel about Warren? How do you feel about Gainwell? How do you feel about Matt Caffey's my start of the week? You know how I feel. I want to know how you feel.
56:34Andy Holloway:I mean, the Dolphins on the season are right in the middle of the pack, but the last six weeks they have been stingy against the running back position second.
56:43Mike Wright:They're playing so hard for their head coach.
56:46Andy Holloway:Yeah, the Dolphins really are trying to win. They're getting after it, but I think that both Warren and Gainwell are still in play. I lean Warren, but not by a huge margin.
57:00Mike Wright:If the Steelers win, their playoff probability goes to 72%. Miami can get their win probability up to 1 % with a win.
57:13Mike Wright:Did you talk about DK? No, I did not. Jason, do you have thoughts on DK? 38 % of targets last week.
57:19Jason Moore:Yeah, that was the huge thing, 12 targets. He hadn't been double-digit targets this entire season, which is kind of mind-blowing that you've paid$150 million for a guy with no other great receiving options behind.
57:32Mike Wright:How did it work out for the Steelers to give him – oh, they won. It worked out great.
57:38Jason Moore:And you want to know why that happened? We talk about it a couple times. There's teams you don't play tight ends against. And one of those was the Baltimore Ravens. And Arthur Smith was pissed. He was so – he's furious. I've got so many tight ends, and they're so big. We should only throw to tight ends. And they're like, you can't throw tight ends against Baltimore. All right, we'll throw to Metcalf. But this week, they're playing a team that can be exploited at tight end.
58:03Andy Holloway:And Darnell Washington is in the concussion protocol. Yeah, so Jonu and Pat Fryermuth will. I'll say it for DFS because I don't think I have the courage in a redraft situation. But the Muth could get Luth this weekend.
58:17Jason Moore:And Jonu revenge game here. Oh, yeah. So I think Metcalf is what he has been prior to last week, which is an okay, fine start who could get a touchdown, but I don't expect that they're going to give him double-digit targets.
58:37Jason Moore:Yeah, I'm fine playing him. He had a bad game last week, but that was very situational. He was still out there running routes, and then they started basically running the ball a lot as they were up trying to secure that victory. This week, the matchup is okay. Next week, he gets Cincinnati, I believe, right? I believe that's correct, yeah.
58:58Mike Wright:Yeah, which is great.
59:00Andy Holloway:I mean, that is correct. Okay.
59:02Mike Wright:Brady Cook is starting for the Jets. Injury update for you. Start your Jags defense. Yeah. Mason Taylor has been ruled out for Week 15. He's got to spend the night at the vet. Look, they don't have anything. It makes Brees Hall a really, really terrifying start.
59:22Jason Moore:Yes, sir. I think Brees is in for tough sledding. Marvin Harrison officially ruled out, so Arizona will not have Marvin Harrison.
59:30Andy Holloway:Jerry Rice will be on the field.
59:32Mike Wright:I'm really quite okay playing Michael Wilson. I think it'll be all right. He can do enough fantasy-wise even without Brissette throwing touchdowns. You know what I mean? Yep. Like he could be eight for 89 or something like that. And, you know, they do have to possess the football. I'm okay with him.
59:51Jason Moore:I've got him at wide receiver 24 right now, which is like it's not a must start, but it's definitely someone that, you know, you're in the top 24.
59:58Mike Wright:Any other breaking Josh Jacobs news? Can we please get some more?
1:00:01Jason Moore:Don't say those two words together. Okay. Okay. Any other healing Josh Jacobs news? The quote is, it sounds like he's feeling pretty good. Yeah, they did say that. Yeah. And this is all like fun. He's going to be playing.
1:00:10Andy Holloway:He's going to be great.
1:00:11Mike Wright:It's a swelling of the knee issue is what it is.
1:00:13Andy Holloway:It sounds like he's feeling pretty good. LeFleur did add. We'll see how he feels after the workout.
1:00:18Jason Moore:It's going to feel great, man. Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. We just saw two meows go, you know, ah, we're not playing. My heel hurts. My tummy. I don't know. My tail. Josh Jacobs is a dog. Okay. Josh Jacobs is going to play and play hard and play well and play with plenty of work.
1:00:36Andy Holloway:Because yesterday's day off was so good for him. Oh, yeah.
1:00:39Jason Moore:He's well rested.
1:00:40Mike Wright:TLDR. Jacobs is active. Jason's starting it.
1:00:43Jason Moore:Yes. Yeah.
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1:00:56Mike Wright:Well, it's been a cold streak, boys. I'm getting shamed again. It happens.
1:01:04Mike Wright:Wheel of Shame.
1:01:08Andy Holloway:Oh, boy. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. spin the stupid wheel. Hey, there goes the wheel. We got Jerry Jones. Sack full of cash. Deucer's Delight. Daft.
1:01:22Jason Moore:Daft loser. What is a daft? I think this is a daft punk reference. Okay, let's see. He's got a helmet and is this like a ski mask? You got a shysty over there? Oh, is that those got names? Yeah. A shysty. Yep. Oh, okay.
1:01:37Andy Holloway:But his is for the costume.
1:01:39Jason Moore:Okay. he's putting on his little sheisty which I would have called a ski mask and now oh this is this is great this is a lot more fun oh oh alright party time very nice alright well this is going to be fun can you see through that yeah alright well then kick it off Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you. Quarterback. Josh Allen. What's his projection? 20.5 passing completions. I'm taking the more. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going with a pass attempts for Jared Goff. 33.5 pass attempts, I think, in that huge over-under game. It will go more than that.
1:02:33Andy Holloway:I got the surging. Maybe things are going to turn out okay. Trevor Lawrence, one and a half passing touchdowns. I'm going more. I thought about that one. Please be too ET-ing. Whatever. As long as there's two, we're okay.
1:02:48Jason Moore:Get the music back on. Running back. Jonathan Taylor, 71.5 rushing yards. I'm taking the lower.
1:02:59Andy Holloway:Okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
1:03:00Jason Moore:Oh, you coward. Yeah. Running back, Brees Hall. Projection, 68 and a half. Are you guys just being haters? I'm going lower. Apparently, Andy and I both go, if you don't have a quarterback, just stack the run against this guy. He's not going to do well on the ground.
1:03:17Andy Holloway:I got Andy's start of the week. Mr. Chris Rodriguez, 47.5 rushing yards against the New York Giants. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. We're going more, baby. Okay.
1:03:29Jason Moore:Hit it.
1:03:32Mike Wright:Nico Collins. Arizona sucks. 74.5 receiving yards. I'm taking the more.
1:03:43Jason Moore:All right. I'm going. The drop is so good. Another high over under exciting game. Stephon Diggs, revenge against Buffalo again. Four and a half receptions. I believe he had 10 last time they faced off. I'm going more. All right. I bet you wish he had music. I get to hear it one more time It's supposed to make you look dumb but it's really making them cool
1:04:10Andy Holloway:I got Jerry Rice as my wide receiver also known as Michael Wilson five receptions in the first quarter? Come on, more!
1:04:21Jason Moore:Alright, it's time for the tight end and you know what I'm doing here I'm going with Isaiah Likely Green Goblin 1.5 five receptions.
1:04:35Andy Holloway:What? I'm taking them more, baby.
1:04:39Jason Moore:Okay, that's an absurd, absurd projection. I mean, I know it's a Green Goblin, so it's supposed to be easy, but that is absurd.
1:04:47Andy Holloway:Oh, man.
1:04:48Jason Moore:Mine, I am going with Isaiah Likely one and a half receptions, baby. More! Sometimes it's too easy.
1:04:58Andy Holloway:What you got, Mike? It's my Green Goblin, too. It's not nearly as cool as you guys. Yeah, loser. But it's Harold Fanning. Oh, okay. Three and a half receptions. Okay. We'll go more on that against Chicago.
1:05:09Mike Wright:For those that don't know, Green Goblin is better than normal. Easier than normal projection.
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1:05:29Andy Holloway:Pretty jealous of that. I'm looking forward
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