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Fantasy Footballers episode for 12/17 (Week 16 start/sit, backup options, and playoff anxiety). Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright discuss semi-final week in fantasy leagues, the need for luck even with strong teams, and how injuries/late roster changes can swing outcomes. They debate reseeding in playoffs (NFL style vs NBA), then give Week 16 backup options: Chris Rodriguez (practicing full; strong after-contact and rush metrics; favorable vs Philly/Dallas) and Trey Harris (Chargers WR if Quentin Johnston is out; high snap/route usage and upside vs Dallas). News & notes: Dolphins bench Tua for Quinn Ewers; Waller start-sit is questioned due to snap share and rookie QB; streaming tight ends (Colby Parkinson, Tyler Warren/Fannin/Warren comparisons). Thursday Rams-Seahawks: concerns about Seattle offense; Devontae Adams and Puka/Colby Parkinson discussed. Mailbag: play Brock Bowers over pivots; Tyler Warren is downgraded; Rasheed Rice is usable but not top-tier; George Pickens benching is discouraged; Drake London day-to-day.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPlayoff Anxiety and Predictions
0:43 to 1:21
Hosts discuss playoff anxiety and the unpredictable nature of fantasy football outcomes.
“Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over.”
Playoff Anxiety and Predictions
1:39 to 3:34
Hosts discuss playoff anxiety and the unpredictable nature of fantasy football outcomes.
“No, I know, but Mike's been just soaring above it.”
Christmas Party Planning Mishaps
3:34 to 4:38
The hosts share humorous stories about planning their company Christmas party.
NFL News and Sunday Live Plans
4:38 to 7:26
Updates on NFL news and the upcoming Sunday Live episode plans.
“But not only is it early in the morning.”
Reseeding in Fantasy Playoffs
7:26 to 9:59
A discussion about the reseeding rules in fantasy football playoffs and their implications.
Backup Options for Week 16
9:59 to 10:46
The hosts analyze the most dropped players and backup options for fantasy lineups.
“So Papa Josh will be in the championship against one of us, Mike.”
Analyzing Key Players and Matchups
10:46 to 14:03
In-depth discussion on key player performances and matchups for the upcoming week.
“He is one of the most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours.”
Trey Harris: A Potential Star
14:03 to 15:05
Explore the possibility of Trey Harris stepping up in upcoming games.
“now however he is a good player he's a second round pick he's he's big he had been on the field for 42 of the snaps on the season but then last week with huge out he ran the second most routes on the team.”
News and Notes from the NFL
15:10 to 24:16
A rundown of the latest NFL news and player updates impacting fantasy decisions.
“news and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance Normally I kind of lay the news out and you guys break it down a little bit.”
Thursday Night Game Breakdown
26:48 to 28:00
Analyzing the upcoming Thursday night game and player matchups.
“The Seahawks had the ball for over 37 minutes in that game, but Darnold had the four picks.”
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Fantasy Start/Sit Decisions
28:00 to 33:20
Analyzing player start/sit decisions for the upcoming fantasy week.
“If he's active, I presume that we would start him over Travis Kelsey without Patrick Mahomes.”
Mailbag Questions on Tight Ends
33:20 to 42:27
Addressing listener questions about tight end selections and strategies.
“If you have a question for the show, we're here to help.”
Mailbag Questions on Tight Ends
42:32 to 42:42
Addressing listener questions about tight end selections and strategies.
“is based on analysis by Ookla of speed test intelligence data, second half of 2025.”
Panicking Over George Pickens
42:43 to 45:08
The hosts discuss the fantasy football implications of starting George Pickens versus Jaden Reed.
“Maybe inappropriate for children under 13.”
Christmas Meal Debates
45:09 to 48:40
A light-hearted conversation about Christmas meals, ham versus turkey.
“Everything's been about this epic comeback for their team.”
Whittling and Boy Scouts
48:41 to 50:16
A nostalgic discussion about whittling and experiences in Boy Scouts.
“I don't think we've ever had a - Your family doesn't?”
Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes
50:17 to 53:04
The hosts wrap up the show with reminders about upcoming episodes and waivers.
“And then to Falcon, do you even know what whittling is?”
Transcript
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0:40Jason Moore:This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Every football fan is different. Some won't wash their lucky mustard-stained jersey until the season's over. Some insist they can't sit down on third downs. And some pick their favorite team because, I don't know, just like football fandom, Nobody's life is exactly the same. And that's why State Farm gets to know you, not as a policy number, but as an actual person. So they can help personalize a coverage plan that's just for you. Whether it's game day or just another Tuesday, State Farm has you covered.
1:21Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
1:38Mike Wright:Welcome in.
1:48What is that? That's the anxiety. I thought so. Really? Yes. Yeah, it's the anticipation. He hasn't had a playoff game yet. No, I know, but Mike's been just soaring above it. That's too cool for school. Nobody's really truly above. It's all pretend? The fantasy. No, I think it's an execution of like, you know, instill some confidence.
2:11Andy Holloway:Yeah, I can have the utmost confidence, but there's a Kyle Pitts out there waiting for this weekend. Right. Like there are a lot of people in the second round that probably shouldn't be. There will be another Kyle Pitts type of performance. May it be Chris Olave from someone in football, and you're just like he's waiting. It's just what Jason said. I mean, you spend the time, the skill, the ability, the consistency. You make yourself a playoff team, and then you lose.
2:42Mike Wright:You need a little bit of luck. Yeah. And one, I mean, it's shocking breaking news. I'm surprised I didn't hit the button, but one person wins the title. that is my that is the thing you can have two good teams and they can both play well and one
2:55Jason Moore:team's gonna win that's the thing that passes by everyone they all get oh i did this i lost it's like everyone loses literally all but one the whole game we're playing is everyone but one loses i mean we look at it like oh i want to be the winner but it's the game is everybody but one is a loser it's a good time to remind people that next week at this time one of you two will be a loser yep that is because you are facing off in the league of records semi-finals well by this
3:23Andy Holloway:time one of us will have been a loser for yeah for at least a day one of you will be suffering this time next yes now i will be suffering this weekend but also entertained to listen to both of
3:34Mike Wright:you mike is more quiet jason not so much no like this weekend my emotions this weekend you will be you will be talking you will be slowly walking us through everything that happens with extreme language yeah um you know things like uh you know it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that i'm i've already lost after the first catch of the game or something like that was i was
3:58Jason Moore:already congratulated yesterday you were on my you were well i just you know look the projections were pretty wide so congrats 13 points backup options on the show today nfl news thursday
4:12Mike Wright:tonight preview the mailbag uh we're here for you and uh it is semi-final week so good luck to everybody in the megalobowl that is still alive if you want to see your megalobowl standings megalobowl.com you can uh you can go in there and check it out find us on youtube we are a year round podcast youtube.com slash the fantasy footballers do us a favor subscribe click the bell uh we will have sunday live now i want the people to know i'm gonna just come out and say this yeah mistakes might have been made by yours truly when planning our company christmas party
4:54Andy Holloway:which it's unfortunate because you took the you took the bull by the horns you're like i'm getting this i'm gonna get a schedule i'm getting out ahead of it it's a big day it's the we we often were like oh crap get the company Christmas party planned and he was like no this year I got it I'm hosting I'm setting it all up it's gonna be awesome what are you doing Jason? what are you doing? I was trying to make
5:16Jason Moore:a waiver claim and then it turned out I have ineligible guys on my IR and oh damn it
5:22Andy Holloway:and so Andy was gonna take care of it and then he planned it on Saturday right which I thought was normal
5:30Mike Wright:but I guess it's not been normal No, because we have a Sunday live. And that's early in the morning. Yeah.
5:37Jason Moore:But not only is it early in the morning. Sometimes we celebrate Christmas late. Not only is it early in the morning after a late night party, but at said party, there shall be extra tilting because there is football games happening where they make an impact on Mike and I. I'm kind of looking forward to that, though.
5:56Mike Wright:I'm actually kind of excited that there will be, because we've got Al Borland and his Packers taking on the Bears. Taking on the Bears.
6:02Jason Moore:Yeah, baby. Go Pack Go, baby. Josh Jacobs Packers. And then me and baby Jake with our Bears. This was a long way of me saying we will still have a Sunday Live, but I think I'm going to fill in for Mike.
6:18Mike Wright:I think I'll be there and take one for the team. Papa Josh, are you with me on Sunday Live? I'm with you. Okay. Lucky us. Merry Christmas. but that will be on Sunday morning before the games. We'll be with you as always to get you primed and ready. React to the latest news because you never know when Roma Duns is going to be suddenly removed from rosters three minutes before kickoff.
6:42Jason Moore:That one was brutal. If you are out there, and I actually saw a league that they allowed someone to swap out because the only player. Good. The only player that was, but here's the crazy part. the only player who would have been realistically swapped out on that team and it was realistic and it was not really the fault of the manager because it was announced you know minutes before was kyle pitts so they got to swap rome out for pitts but they already knew pitts's points but oh is that what i just looked at the post i don't know i mean pitts
7:15Andy Holloway:played on thursday that whatever they allowed happen i'd be out of that league yeah i was so with them like dude that's great if the yeah because you couldn't have made that someone could have been a you know church or whatever and you're like i have roman okay we're good to go and you don't you're not able to react so i mean allowing people to fix that but you can't just throw the 40 points in there no that i would not stand for no you can't um yeah somebody was somebody was asking about reseeding in the middle of the playoffs like oh it was an oversight we didn't reseed i want to just put it into place right this moment and then they were like but just to throw in like i'm the commissioner and it's my team in the semis i was like that one you can't do that man you gotta live with it how is reseeding not the default like it's so insane to me it's well not a tournament not every professional sports league does that obviously who who doesn't reseed i don't think uh the does the nba reseed yes oh yeah the higher seat always plays the lowest seat possible hmm because that's how tournaments work that's be like you're a reward
8:26Jason Moore:no the nba does not reseed after the first round of the playoffs that's what i thought oh well yeah i'm way only the nfl among the big u.s league leagues truly reseeds okay well football doesn't and that's a good enough argument i will say nba doesn't reseed no that's why you know i kind of actually this might be contrarian i don't know but there is part of me that prefers to not reseed simply because you can look at the bracket and know who's playing who if that you know whenever we're doing our playoff picks which we'll be doing here in a couple weeks again it's always annoying to be like oh okay well if this one wins then the bracket changes here so
9:10Andy Holloway:now my matchup is this versus you know so that your your argument against rewarding a team for having the better season playing winning being great your argument is you at home when filling
9:23Jason Moore:out your bracket it's slightly more confusing it's actually that you can the same argument that I was making if you're making the argument side is actually that you can prepare for exactly who your next opponent would be. I'd rather prepare for the team that's worse. Well, unless you're the team that's worse. Then you'd rather be able to prepare. You're saying that because you got the bye and you're the one seed. Why are we rewarding the bad teams? If you have a bye and your first matchup is not against the worst team as the best team, that sucks. That's why the NFL does it. The NFL's better. Well, we do it, and Papa Josh actually was the one seed and he's getting the layup.
10:03Jason Moore:So Papa Josh will be in the championship against one of us, Mike. Seems so. You're trying to jinx him right now? No, I'm just telling the truth.
10:10Andy Holloway:No, there's no way he's going to lose. Moving on.
10:19Backup Options, presented by Progressive Insurance.
10:27Mike Wright:All right, we're into backup options for Week 16. The most dropped players on Sleeper over the last 24 hours. We'll look at them and tell you if you should grab them. There's a huge name that we didn't really talk about yesterday because we didn't necessarily think he'd be back.
10:41Andy Holloway:Right, we talked about the backup. Yeah, exactly. And Chris Rodriguez is practicing in full. He is one of the most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours. He has my backup option this week.
10:51Mike Wright:He was my start of the week last week, which I really think would have worked out quite well considering Ja 'Cory Kreisky-Meritt was dominant. He missed last week. They got him healthy. He had been limited in practice. Now he practices in full on a Tuesday. you know, it's crazy. Chris Rodriguez, for all the disrespect that his own coaching staff and the rest of the league shows him among 51 qualifying running backs with 80 plus carries, he ranks number one in yards after contact per attempt. Number one among 51.
11:18Andy Holloway:That's good. The third and rush rate rush success rate is even more impressive. Yeah. And his upcoming schedule, fifth easiest for running backs week 16 Philly. I know we talk about Philly all the time, believe it or not, over the course of the year, 1.1 points above expectation. They're not a bad matchup and then Dallas is real bad do you have any concerns after last week's Bill performance and the the trajectory of the team they shut down Jaden Daniels is there any chance they just say let's see if Bill can do it um I think they need to know about both of those guys yeah I was gonna
11:52Jason Moore:say Chris Rodriguez is 25 years old this is he I think they have to question who should be are running back next year yeah or part of the depth of the team next year so who do you guys have so i've got the jaguars i was shocked to see them as one of the most dropped teams um i have been looking at week 17 matchups and you know playing that two week ahead game where you're looking at your championship and saying who could you play now first of all they they play the broncos this week which is probably why they're so dropped people like i'm not going to against the Broncos. The Broncos are a good offense sometimes.
12:28Jason Moore:They're a very confusing offense, but they really aren't one of those teams you can't play against. I think you could play the Jaguars against them. They have been on fire. Their pass rush has been great. They're just a good defense. Yeah, they're just a good defense, and so that's why I'm surprised they're dropped, but then you've got the matchup, and I know on paper, when you look at the season totals, you go, oh, it's a bad matchup in week 17. But it's the Colts. Yeah. Things have changed. Things have changed. And not only are you going to have film on the passing speed of Phillip Rivers, but Phillip Rivers is going to be coming off of a Monday night football game with a short week of rest.
13:08Jason Moore:You know what I mean? Like at 44, it's like he needs all the rest. He needs extra rest, which he has one day extra rest going into this week. But for a championship, you know, I would be thrilled to play the Jaguars defense. I mean, the Jaguars aren't going to give up three touchdowns to Philip Rivers in the championship week. If you want to watch a predictable pick six opportunity, watch Philip Rivers throw out routes. It's like one is coming. He floats them. I also overheard this name that you're about to mention, Mike, when you were on a radio show yesterday. I thought it was pretty astute.
13:44It could be one of those really really surprising uh you know you mentioned kyle pitts gives you the weird way go ahead and this
13:53Andy Holloway:are you trying to pick up jay warms my heart it's trey harris love this of the los angeles chargers and obviously this is only if quentin johnston is is hurt we don't have the information on it right now however he is a good player he's a second round pick he's he's big he had been on the field for 42 of the snaps on the season but then last week with huge out he ran the second most routes on the team. He had five targets, three for 49, and that was against a difficult Kansas City matchup. Now they get the Dallas Cowboys. While the offensive line will not be fixed and Herbert will still take some shots from the Cowboys, certainly, if Trey Harris is out there for the second most routes against the Dallas Cowboys, you have a chance for something just, you have a chance for a miracle to happen.
14:43Andy Holloway:You know, you got to wade through the crap of who could possibly do it and I think if QG is out Trey Harris is one of those guys that on Monday when we're in studs and duds it wouldn't surprise me if you're like holy crap look what Trey Harris just did in the semis yeah I think you could be right especially even like DFS and stuff like that that was backup options sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote today at progressive.com
15:10news and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance Normally I kind of lay the news out and you guys break it down a little bit. I'm going to let Jason take this one. Oh, no!
15:24Jason Moore:Okay, I'm up. Yeah, be a professional, Jay. Yeah, the Dolphins are benching quarterback Tua Tonga Viola because he has been playing poorly, unless he's been throwing the ball to the tight end Darren Waller. That has worked. That's why I normally read it. Excellent. And they are going to be starting Quinn Ewers this week. That's why I never say it. Steelers against the Bengals. So this is a matchup I have been salivating over. I talked about on the backup options two weeks ago. It was pick up Darren Waller, who had two more touchdowns. He's got like six touchdowns in basically six games because he exited one early with Tua.
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16:01Jason Moore:And now the question is, okay, the world's greatest matchup for a tight end who's been great. Tight ends can be the best friend of a young quarterback. but can you really play Darren Waller when he's playing 50 % of snaps with a seventh-round rookie quarterback? I can't. Probably not. I won't be.
16:21Mike Wright:It sucks. Just to follow up, I mean, it sucks because it's not like we didn't just see variable production from tight end against this defense last week. We saw Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews. If they had gone out and both dominated, maybe we would be so overwhelmed by the three consecutive weeks with the triple Bills and double Ravens And look, there's an opportunity for Waller to be productive. They don't really have pass catchers.
16:48Jason Moore:I can't believe. I literally can't believe they made this decision. I mean, they just won four games in a row. And then they go and play in freezing cold weather. And he has a bad game. Quarterbacks have a bad game.
17:01Andy Holloway:McDaniel is just he's done with it. He is like, man, you have to be able to play in every scenario. You also need to know what you have here in seventh round. Like, he's not the backup. Ewers was the third stringer.
17:13Mike Wright:Zach Wilson was the backup for the majority of the year. They made the decision. They know what he is on film. You need to go see what Quinn Ewers has. They have ways out with Tua Tungavailoa's contract. Expensive ways out.
17:28Jason Moore:Yeah, it's going to cost. I mean, technically everyone has a way out. You can cut anyone.
17:31Andy Holloway:I think he has more than$50 million guaranteed next year for Tua.
17:37Jason Moore:Cutting Tua would leave the Dolphins with$99.2 million. You can move if you're not planning to move on from him. That's what I'm curious about.
17:43Andy Holloway:It really felt like we were trending that two of them won't be part of the team next year. It just has accelerated here. And for Ewers, I think the biggest thing is just the touchdown opportunities. Can Ewers be that good? I mean, the matchup for a guy who's making his first start, you're at home against the Bengals. Okay. That seems like a positive scenario. we've already seen the line move from 50.5 down to 47 and a half while Cincinnati gained two points on the on the spread so I think this is a this is a big move I actually think it hurts Cincinnati quite a bit and I know you won't want to hear that with the it's possible Chase but like you just talked about the lines coming down I got Chase Brown too so no but it's not just that it's like touchdown opportunities for the total points it's Cincinnati's defense being able to do stuff maybe turn them over maybe score there's no better bet for a defensive score in football than a rookie start at quarterback oh oh yeah so i'm saying that if cincinnati you want every possible possession for them to put up points it's not something you're going to overemphasize or change your start set it's just i'm less excited about the game period but it's like what when yours well i mean oh waddle is is in huge trouble i mean a hn should...
19:03Andy Holloway:A-chan, you keep starting. A-chan, I keep starting. I'm just trying to think through it of like... Hopefully Ewers. Hopefully Ewers is like, I'm just going to keep checking it down to A-chan like I saw Tua do it, but he's a different quarterback. We don't know what his tendencies will be. We've seen the Dolphins with bad quarterback play and what that did to A-chan. It was nowhere close to the superstar that we've had all season.
19:30Jason Moore:The helpful thing is that A-Chan has been so good on the ground. It's not just what it was like last year.
19:36Andy Holloway:But if a defense doesn't respect a passing game at home, that's a problem. Absolutely, they'll crowd the line for sure.
19:41Jason Moore:But I'm looking at the game log. Two weeks ago, he was the running back eight and he had one target. Three weeks ago, he was the running back four. He had one target. He can do it on the ground. Yeah, the Darren Waller start-sit questions are already piling up. Colby Parkinson, I'd go Parkinson. Tyler Warren, I'd probably go Warren. We had Harold Fannin. I go Fannin. So our team was already prepared for this. We knew that the rumors were in the bushes. So we had all of our waiver claims. I've got four waiver claims in already on four different tight ends. I'm happy to start any one of them. And this is a good week for streaming tight ends, honestly.
20:21Jason Moore:There's tight ends I would start over Tyler Warren that are in my list as well. Are you trying to block it like it's hot, Mike? No. I don't think he could. No, I don't have bench space. Josh and Mike combined can't block my four guys. Remember we had the discussion. That's why I'm willing to be free. This is why we had the discussion the other day, and you said you changed your opinion on things, is because when you have wide open waivers and you, in a redraft league that has no dynasty implications, if a bunch of other managers jumped into this scenario right now to block you, that would feel crappy and biased.
20:55Jason Moore:It would be collusion. I mean, if there is a sensational player out there that could be a – I didn't tell no one to do nothing. Yeah, it's not collusion because there's not a collective effort, but it still disadvantages one team over the other, which I don't think is fair. Right. And if it was a keeper-worthy guy, okay, but tight ends on waivers aren't keeper-worthy players. We'll find out what happens in about 30 minutes. Bam Knight on injured reserve for the Cardinals. We kind of knew that. Jeremy Ruckert signed to a two-year extension for the Jets' tight end. and then Saquon did not practice on the Tuesday walk through dealing with the Stinger.
21:28Hold on.
21:29Andy Holloway:You breezed past workhorse. Workhorse Jeremy Ruckert. Oh, man. At least according to Ian Rappaport. I mean. Jeremy Ruckert, everyone. He's a workhorse. That's what you think of. When I think of a workhorse, I think of Jeremy Ruckert. How? Sometimes you can just block and do your job at tight end and get paid, man. Since the buy.
21:54Jason Moore:53 % of snaps, 44 % of snaps, 34 % of workhorse. Workhorses don't work at night, man. They still sleep.
22:03Andy Holloway:What sucks is like this has nothing to do with Jeremy Ruckert. This is just the idiocy of what is happening with these. Social media posts? Yes. Agent-inspired posts. So like our audience right now, set the line over under the amount of the Percenters of our audience that knows what team Jeremy Ruckert played for
22:24Jason Moore:before we just said this. Let me do one divided by 32 because maybe that team's fans.
22:31Andy Holloway:Workhorse, we got to be better about this. 3%. I think 3 % of our audience.
22:35Jason Moore:It's so frustrating.
22:37Mike Wright:Christian Watson, Josh Jacobs did not practice on the Tuesday walkthrough. They play on Saturday. Josh Jacobs intends to play on Saturday. You had some really fun public comments where they came out and said, like look he re-injured his knee immediately we we kind of saw it on the film he had to stop them from taking him off the field he says he's gotten into arguments with their head coach multiple times about it and he's like and normally i have a good game yeah he goes at this point i
23:03Jason Moore:think he just trusts me that if i say i'm good to go i'm gonna go out there and help the team and he followed that up and said it's easier for me to play through pain than to watch on the sideline and that is music to my soul that's what you want your players saying and the truth is a lot of nfl players there are just injuries you can't play through ever no matter how tough you are but there is a middle ground where you look at these injury prone players that are sometimes like you know a little softer and it's like they just they can't they're they're they're not going to be willing to play through things that, you know, if the coach gives them an opportunity.
23:44Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, Marshawn Lloyd.
23:46Andy Holloway:Marshawn Lloyd is made out of paper mache. Those hamstrings. Him and Kendra Miller are just begging for a car. I don't think he macheted it.
23:55Jason Moore:It's just newspaper. Yeah, it's going to be a dogfight. It's Packers-Bears. That helps. It helps a lot for Jacobs being out there, but we'll keep monitoring those guys. Luther Burden, Roma Dunze did not practice. Come on, Luther. Luther, I think, will play. Dunze, I think won't, but that's just my gut on Wednesday. And that was News & Notes, sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company, affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll be back in a minute.
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26:47Well, we have Saturday games, but we also have a Thursday night game.
26:56Thursday night breakdown and it is the first ever Thursday night game between two teams with 11 plus wins in history Los Angeles 11 and 3 Seahawks 11 and 3 that would be the Rams not the Chargers Vegas line Los Angeles Rams minus one and a half the over under is 43 and a half the Rams won 21 19 in week 11. The Seahawks had the ball for over 37 minutes in that game, but Darnold had the four picks. Both teams are basically guaranteed to make the playoffs. Right now, the Rams, I believe their odds are 63 % to win the division.
27:40Jason Moore:They are... Last I saw, the Rams were number one in Super Bowl winning odds and the Seahawks were number two. There is still... I'm concerned about Seattle. We have not ruled out like davante adams like this isn't he is not he's considered a game time decision right now and this is a big game that's crazy so i don't i don't know what's going to happen i would have you play him as a fantasy manager yeah i think you may be in a situation where you literally couldn't if he is couldn't not play him couldn't not uh so you are well let's let's look at our
28:13Andy Holloway:let's look at our roster very clear could it not perhaps so i we go to the tape and say everything
28:19Jason Moore:We have a decision on Devontae Adams. If he's active, I presume that we would start him over Travis Kelsey without Patrick Mahomes.
28:29Andy Holloway:Yeah, that's probably.
28:31Jason Moore:What about DJ Moore?
28:33Andy Holloway:I think I'd play DJ Moore. I'd play DJ Moore. He's running in a straight line, and he just went face first into the ground. He won't be playing between the 20s.
28:46Jason Moore:You know what I mean? I mean, if he's active, he's going to be out there for goal line. You're hoping for a little Duke route and good hands. Two catches for two yards and two touchdowns. 100%. Yeah, Brooks said he's going to be in for him in Dynasty if he's active at all. That's because Brooks has no one else. Well, I mean, that's the situation.
29:05Mike Wright:But, you know, I like the Rams in this game. The running game for Seattle has been awful. I mean, not kind of awful. Awful, awful. Like 30th. in the league in rush success rate between the two backs. 28th in yards per carry, 26th in yards before contact.
29:22Andy Holloway:I think this is part of why the offense is so broken right now for Seattle. If you can't get the Cougs system running where you have any concern about the running backs, everything just falls apart. You have, what is it, of the past three games, you have one half of actual good Seattle offense. They didn't score a single touchdown at home against the Colts who had Phillip Rivers on the other side. I mean, like, this isn't a – I'm not saying the sky is falling. I'm not playing JSN, but I'm saying overall I have great concern for what's happening with Seattle. Yeah, they have a great defense, but their offensive, you know, consistency is questionable.
30:11They turn the ball over a lot. so you know the decisions for the fantasy player here is i don't want to play sharbs or walker i
30:19Andy Holloway:mean playing against the rams i'm playing jason and that is probably it and then the other side with the adams injury we talked through that puka nakua of course i think colby parkinson is really interesting and i you know if adams is out he's even more interesting to me if he's a pickup at tight end and you're on the on the fence that might push you over the fence if adams is ruled out for Thursday. And even if he isn't, like you said, one play could be all he can handle.
30:49Jason Moore:Yeah, Parkinson's just been a touchdown machine. He is certainly – I mean, you look at our start-sit tool, he's one of the most common, like, should we pick up and play Parkinson? I was talking to Kyle. Parkinson is – he's looking right now at Tyler Warren or Parkinson. Parkinson's a good play. He's a good play this week. And I can't – I mean, I get it. Devontae Adams, tough guy, great player. Maybe they'll use him sparingly, but I still don't think he plays.
31:16Andy Holloway:I don't think he plays either.
31:17Jason Moore:It's like you – I know how important this game is, but also I know how important Devontae Adams is to the playoffs games, which are way more important than this game. You know, Kyron is number one in rush success rate among all running backs, and Corum is number two. Wow. Like, I would play Corum over both Seattle running backs. it's it's tough because this is like a matchup where neither side both both defenses are so good against the run they're just they shut it down yeah it's true and quorum has been on fire in recent weeks with the matchup is tough stafford top eight quarterback and eight of 11 starts again tough matchup the over-under is 43 and a half in this game it was 21 19 last time so you know the fact that it's in seattle as well 12th man thursday night football island game that's their path to victory their path to victory is you know play play good defense make it a close game it's a little little drizzle in the air projected is that what they call rain well they call it drizzle in the air when it's just a little light little bit rain a little bit rain a little bit rain a little drizzle any other thoughts from this game you guys want to comment
32:31Andy Holloway:on for the fantasy playoff no i i think it's a pretty straightforward one there's i can't imagine you're playing any of the backup wide receivers no she is leveling up by the way he is starting to right he's seeing his i'm talking from like the rams oh i'm sorry yeah no she heat i wanted to mention as well if Adams is out I'm not like okay well next man up not when uh on the season the Seattle Seahawks are the worst matchup for fantasy wide receivers Rashid G at four for 67 five for 74 the last two weeks snap counts up opportunities up something to monitor feels a little trey heresy to me but with the worst matchup all right if we're done there yeah I'll click this button.
33:19Mailbag. Mailbag. If you have a question for the show, we're here to help. Go to the website, thefantasyfootballers.com. Click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline, 302-464-TFFB. Why not just start here because this is not the first time I've heard benching this guy as a question this week. Hey, Bullis. Henry from Australia here. Bonjour. Quick question regarding Brock Bowers, especially this week. Do I play him or do I pivot to someone like Colby Parkinson? Thanks, guys. Love the show. I think this is a really, really important discussion to have because I've seen multiple people ask if they should bench Bowers this week.
34:03They're scared of the matchup. I saw one this morning that was should I play Waller over Bowers? Now I said on that one, it was like, hey, watch out. They may switch quarterbacks. It probably takes that decision off. Bowers is in for me. Of your mind. I can't imagine benching Bowers.
34:21Andy Holloway:Philadelphia is they're really strong against tight ends, right? Am I remembering that correct? Philadelphia is very good. That's who they just played and I know it's Kenny Pickett or probably it could be Gino.
34:34Jason Moore:Last that Pete Carroll said, he said Gino is certainly ready to go from where I saw him this morning.
34:39Andy Holloway:I wasn't sure if that was a Gino's going to play or Pete Carroll's like Geno should play. If he does a play, he's soft. But Brock Bowers is in. Before the Philadelphia matchup, he's just been crushing. He was on fire. Play the better player, man. I'm saying Kenny Pickett to Geno Smith.
35:02Jason Moore:Who cares? Even with Kenny Pickett, he had eight targets. But it was just a really tough matchup. And if you want a guy who could get any one target and break three tackles and score a manimal touchdown, it's Brock Bowers. so you've got to play him. Yeah, I want to just clear this up real quick. Trey McBride, I play over Bowers. Yeah. Kittle, I'd probably play over Bowers this week against Houston. I would definitely. That's it. I don't think I have the guts to try. I'm not playing Goddard. I'm not playing. I don't think I'm playing Pitts. That's the end of my list. Yeah, Pitts is honestly still interesting.
35:40Jason Moore:like if if drake london doesn't play again against arizona he's high up there well the cardinals we know will give up one touchdown to the defense one to the special teams and two to bijon so i don't know how close that gets us to 40 points maybe there's room for a couple like that two to bijon talk so are you are you making pits above bowers an official recommendation no what
36:07Andy Holloway:What about Fannin? Matt wants to talk Fannin. Fannin has been great. I mean. Harold Fanny.
36:14Jason Moore:I think Kyle Pitts, Harold Fannin, they're great plays this week. 14 targets. They're great plays. Sweet. I'm still going to play Bowers. I agree with Andy. I mean, it's pretty much Trey McBride and George Kittle and then Bowers. Yeah. Yep. All right. We've got. Oh, boy. Another tight end question.
36:32Andy Holloway:Hey, this is Hannah from Montana. I'm just wondering if I play Tyler Warren or roll the dice and scream a Dalton Schultz or Colby Parkinson think I I think that is a much more realistic question with Tyler Warren
36:49Jason Moore:or the pivot yeah I think the pivot might be my answer I am out on Tyler Warren like I I look you know I went and I rewatched the Colts film and my opinion on Tyler Warren who's a great player he also could break tackles and make a manimal play, I think his opportunities and the team's opportunities to score are going to be very hard to come by. And there are a lot of good options this week. And, you know, she named some of them. I also would throw Juwan Johnson out there as another great play of Vele is injured, which it looks like he's week to week right now. Juwan Johnson becomes the number two target for the saints there's a lot of options i'd play over tyler warren or colson loveland loveland i have warren at 13 and i might i might lower i might lower him even more it's not his fault no no he's awesome this is this is 100 like you watch the offense the offense strategy was screen pass short area short area screen pass short area emergency short area numbers of it was like
37:53Andy Holloway:passes over 10 yards. I think it was like one of 13. It's just not viable. It just isn't. So I think Schultz and Parkinson are both in play over Warren. I just dropped him to... He's at 16. He's at 13, now he's at 17.
38:09Jason Moore:It's tough. It's sad. But I think if you roll with someone who you can't get a deep shot. One of the things that was so great about Tyler Warren throughout this year was when he's going down the field 15, 20 yards across the middle. You hit him in stride. He breaks tackles. He just looks awesome. He's never getting one of those shots with Phillip Rivers. Right. This is the Back to the Future photograph where Alec Pierce has disappeared already. Oh, yeah. And then Warren's disappearing, and everybody's disappearing.
38:39Andy Holloway:The Alec Pierce stuff is such a bummer. I mean, he's dominant, but you can't run an out route down the field. Yeah, I mean, did he even have a target? He did. I think he had one important catch. Oh, very late, right? Yeah, very late. Yeah, for the field goal. All right. Well, we have more panic in the streets. Rashi Rice without Mahomes question from Instagram. Molecular matter.
39:00Mike Wright:How do we feel about Rashi Rice without Patty Mahomes? Are you rolling with Rice? Are you rolling with Tett McMillan? Ooh.
39:10Andy Holloway:Tett is interesting. Rice has had two bad weeks in a row. Overall, like, I'm not completely out on Rashi Rice just because of how he's used in the offense. Gardner Minshew, obviously a massive downgrade, but Rasheed Rice is like we figure out how to just get him the ball as easily as we can possibly get him the ball and then let him go out there and cook. This isn't precision route, precision timing. He's out-athleting people. So he's not a, like, I've got to escape. I've got to get Rice out of my starting lineup. So, Tett McMillan against Tampa Bay, that one I can be talked into Tett McMillan.
39:55Nobody has taken more shots than Rashi Rice the last two weeks.
40:01Jason Moore:He has been blowed up. Yes. I mean, the recipe is out there for how to stop Rashi Rice. He's caught zero of those passes. Hit him with a Mack truck. Yeah, I mean, he's a weird receiver, guys.
40:14Mike Wright:He really is. Oh, yeah. Always has been. He's not a normal prototypical one. He feels a little bit like Michael Thomas, not in the exact same style, but in the fact that you do kind of a couple things better than everybody in the entire league, and that's what you operate under, and that's where your fantasy value is found. It's not going to be deep routes.
40:34Andy Holloway:It's not going to be... Rasheed Rice or Justin Jefferson against the Giants. Jason? I would go Jefferson, honestly, and I know that I'm not allowed to say that anymore. Rasheed Rice or Lad McConkie against Dallas.
40:49Jason Moore:Oh, man. Bounce back week for McConkie. It was probably Lad because of the matchup. I do agree with your premise, though, Mike, that Rasheed Rice is not – I'm not out on him. He's just a little bit lower. There are other good options. If there's good options like Tett, like Lad, then you can make a pivot. But I'm going to play him over Jalen Waddell now. Yeah. All right. We have more questions on the way after this break.
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43:23All right, we have people panicking, not just about Rashi Rice. How about George Pickens, Mike? No, I'm...
43:30Mike Wright:We got an Instagram question from Mama Cucina. Am I crazy for considering benching George Pickens for Jaden Reed? Feels a little crazy. Yeah, crazy. Feels a little crazy.
43:41Andy Holloway:Yeah. The meter's a little more on the crazy side. I know the two weeks have been horrifically bad, but everything around Pickens is still the same. And Jaden Reed's upside in a playoff matchup is not even close to what Pickens can do. What's going to be your post-mortem if Pickens has the year he had, but then just completely falls apart? Like he's a flop for the fantasy playoffs. I would be just nervous, really, really nervous about how teams will look at that. I mean, because it's on him. It feels like this is 100 % on George Pickens, and this is not. It looks like effort, but that's such a hard thing to judge.
44:30It's funny how it always looks that way when he struggles.
44:34Andy Holloway:But then why he's great? Effort. I mean like when he's out there making the Does he give too much? Maybe and he drains it from the future
44:44Jason Moore:It's possible I think his talent is why he succeeds He's just like hyper
44:47Andy Holloway:Right but I'm saying it's not just the spectacular catches It's also the run after catch That's true you're right So it's Is it as simple as He shows up when he feels like showing up Or is there some There's probably more to it than we realize It can't be that easy. It's a weird week for Dallas in general because there's nothing left to play for playoffs-wise. I'm just very curious. Everything's been about this epic comeback for their team. Javante Williams has been great all year. CeeDee Lamb and Dak. You guys have, ironically, just to use it as an example to talk about it, you have two stacks, Burrow Chase, Emo Burrow right now.
45:33Andy Holloway:Yes. Close tonight. We'll be the night. Bro, get it together, man. And then you've got Dak. Snap out of it.
45:41Mike Wright:Dak and Seedy. Both teams were like last week. It was like, oh, we got like a 3 % chance to make the playoffs. And both teams lost. And they lost to teams that they thought maybe they could beat. You know, Minnesota beats Dallas. Baltimore smacks Cincinnati. And now how do both teams rebound? And you have everything riding on both of those stacks. And you both would like them to have playoffs on the line.
46:03Jason Moore:Yeah. yeah but we don't so we'll just have to see and then you're not pivoting the nice thing is the cowboys is they've got a lot of experience at the end of seasons of kind of not having to play Cincinnati they both yeah three three years maybe they'll be more comfortable pickings or brian thomas jr is a good question that is from fleasus writing in on instagram uh that would be Pickens for me. Yeah, the
46:29Andy Holloway:Patrick Sertan treatment, as good as Jacoby has been for this team, got to imagine Sertan's on Thomas.
46:37Mike Wright:Instagram question from Kyle.
46:39Andy Holloway:Oh man, that would be just, if Brian Thomas gets out there. Talk about the inverse of Pickens. I'm saying, if Thomas is out there and he sees that Sertan is lined up on Jacoby, that is such an insult. Kyle writes in, this one's slightly different than the last one. What's on the table for your Christmas meal? Is it ham, turkey, or both? I think we've been on the record we're pretty big fans of ham so good let me ask you this your team explodes so many points you go turkey? did that team go turkey? no, that team went ham going turkey is like what a turkey no one's like oh you're a ham turkey's good though
47:23Jason Moore:if you do three in a row
47:24Mike Wright:turkey ham Ham is delicious no matter what happens to it. Turkey, you need gravy. You have to have gravy. And maybe mashed potatoes mixed in. Or a hefty glass of water.
47:40Andy Holloway:Which is funny because turkeys are mean. That's funny. I'm not saying we call people a turkey. It's like you're weak. You're a coward. A wild turkey? Don't mess with them. That's fair. I think maybe turkeys look ridiculous. I think that's part of it. Yeah, no, they do. Like if I call you a turkey. If I call you a turkey. Josh knows. A pack of wild turkeys. They're mean. You leave them alone unless you're armed. You know what's good is a turkey sandwich. Oh, dude, yeah. Like after Thanksgiving or Christmas and you got some mayo up in there to keep it wet. You know what's better, though?
48:21Jason Moore:A ham sandwich. Ham and cheese. on a nice toasted pretzel bun. Yeah, the honey baked, right? We do the honey baked. Hey, this is better. Sweeter. Sugar is delicious. It's fine. You can eat the turkey. It's fine. Neither of these will be at our Christmas party. Yeah, we don't do a Christmas dinner, big Christmas meal. I don't think we've ever had a - Your family doesn't? Yeah. We do a huge Thanksgiving feast, obviously. You don't have a Christmas meal? No, not really. I feel like even Mike has that. Jack in the Box? Yeah, Jack in the Box. No, we've never done, I don't think in our entire lives we've ever done a sit-down Christmas dinner.
49:01Raheem Morris, a little update here. It says Drake London, day-to-day, he'll be at practice. Look forward to seeing how much he'll be able to give us this week. Oh, that's the worst sentence you could give a fantasy player. Josh's team. Looking forward to seeing how much he'll be able to give us this week. We would like to know ahead of time. I'll probably be playing him.
49:20Jason Moore:It would definitely help Josh's team. if Drake London plays. He traded him. No, no, no, but they're facing Kyle Pitts.
49:26Andy Holloway:Ah, yes. Yes. Oh, that would make a big difference. That would make a very big difference. Yeah, if Drake London plays, I mean, Kyle Pitts is...
49:35Mike Wright:We got one more question here from Heiserberg. New hobbies for the eliminated? Question mark? Oh. So some new hobbies. Sports cards. Yeah. Mike and I. Yeah. We've been doing the sports cards thing. And maybe whittling? I feel like that's something Al would do. Do you whittle, Al? Not anymore. You used to whittle? A whittle bit he did. I was a Boy Scout. Swoosh! Nice. Papa Josh had to have whittled as well. Oh, for sure. You grew up when whittling was pretty much the only thing you could do, right?
50:06Jason Moore:That's how we made our toys. He carries a pocket knife on him at all times. He does carry a pocket knife. And that's because he might need to whittle. That's the 3D printer of his generation.
50:15Mike Wright:The whittling? And then to Falcon, do you even know what whittling is? Yeah. Oh, okay.
50:24Andy Holloway:Whittling's... Whittling's... It's interesting. I'm getting old, man. Imagine sitting around a campfire
50:31Jason Moore:with a block of wood and a knife. That sounds awful. Sounds pretty great.
50:37Mike Wright:You were a Boy Scout too, Matt?
50:39Jason Moore:Yeah, for a little bit.
50:40Mike Wright:Okay, so what about you, Josh? No, I'm not a nerd.
50:44Andy Holloway:Yeah, get him! Get him! Take that, Boy Scouts! Oh, my gosh. I think Al is Eagle Scout. No. You stopped short? I stopped just short at Life Scout. Oh, okay. Life Scouts?
50:58Jason Moore:No one has ever heard of a Life Scout because usually if you get there. You finish the job. Yeah, because everyone knows an Eagle Scout's a thing.
51:06Andy Holloway:No, no. Now I got to explore this. What are the ranks? Yeah. Oh, there's. I don't remember them all. Weebelo's the lowest thing, right? Is that one of them? What word did you say?
51:16Jason Moore:Weebelo. Weebelo? You didn't know about weebelos? That's Cub Scouts. That's just a wee below Cub Scouts. I can't remember it all.
51:25Andy Holloway:Who set it up? We got Life Scout. What's next? Eagle. Eagle. Dude, Jim, enough with the Eagles. The Eagle Scouts have to do a big project, like a bunch of hours. Like a huge year-long thing. But if you make it all the way, you have to leave the nail on the head as to why I didn't finish. Yeah, you didn't want to put in... Did you ever have a project figured out and then you just didn't do it? Nope. Okay. Could have done a whittling thing. Probably should have. Yeah. That was really good. Whittle like 700 signs. It looks like we got Scout, Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star Life, Eagle.
51:59You went really far to quit. I think so. Star Life, Eagle. What is it? Picking words. Yeah, they are. And this is after Second and First. We should rename all of our - Was there a Second and First? Yeah, read them again. They did Scout, Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star Life, Eagle. These are our new UK tiers.
52:20Andy Holloway:This is our First Class guy. He's way worse than the Life Scout. What? First Class? What a loser.
52:31We're going to hear from a lot of Boy Scouts. When I buy plane tickets, I'm looking for the Life section.
52:35Mike Wright:A lot of Boy Scouts. All right. That'll do it for today's show. We've got starts of the week and matchups tomorrow. Also, Tenderfoot. That is just. Tenderfoot? That just reminds me of Land Before Time. But you're like, hey, look out, here comes the tender foot. Yeah, I guess it was Littlefoot, huh? That's not a rink? No. Matchups and fantasy face-off on Friday, my routine, Wheel of Shame. And then we'll be into the playoffs in Sunday Live, Sunday morning before the games. So you do not want to miss it. Good luck, everybody out there on waiver day. Your waivers went through. Hopefully you got your guys.
53:09Mike Wright:You played a little defense against your opponent. We'll be back tomorrow. Goodbye.
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