Fantasy Football - Week 2 Matchups + Start/Sits, Delicious Garbage - Podcast for 9/12

12:27Jason Moore:What are you hearing about Xavier Worthy?

12:28Andy Holloway:uh like limited practice i personally can't imagine that he plays this week and honestly if he plays i would be really really scared to put him out there get him get at least another week of practice get used to his new uh armor that he's going to have to wear on that shoulder

12:47Jason Moore:but it's it overall it is good news it's great news it means you don't expect him to miss four weeks they're not putting him on ir obviously um they don't have a designation of very limited in practice, but that would be my assumption is that he was like there. But, you know, his injury would – I mean, it would be shocking to me if he played this week. All right. What else do we have going on?

13:12Mike Wright:We have –

13:12Jason Moore:Brock Bowers. We're on Brock Bowers' watch. Brock Bowers is serious. So they're on Monday Night Football game, which made it real tough. We had people saying, do I start Tucker Craft last night? We don't have any information about Brock Bowers. I think the general wisdom was you wait for Brock Bowers, and then it's like, whoops, Kraft goes off. However, because it's a Monday night football game, that means that yesterday's practice report, which was Thursday, is really just the normal Wednesday in the cycle where a lot of veterans or anybody banged up. You get the day off. I saw more information that led me to believe that it's possible this is like a PCL sprain that could be a week's long injury.

13:51Jason Moore:So really, truly, right now we're just on Brock watch. You have to. If you've got Brock Bowers, you need to be on the waiver wire today. get someone to replace him and then keep in mind you might need to replace him on Sunday not knowing you know or unless you want to you know take the shot at Myers or something.

14:10Mike Wright:There is an injury blitz episode we release it every week for jointhefoot.com supporters in premier tier and above Matthew Betts our injury expert will go over that it comes out this afternoon and you'll want to avail yourself of his opinions in terms of any breaking news and updates. Dallas Goddard did not practice again. Evan Ingram though was upgraded to a full practice. Evan Ingram may be playing some football this week. We get to see another week. And then I just got this news coming through that Rashad Bateman was not present at practice on Friday.

14:41Andy Holloway:Interesting.

14:42Mike Wright:And we saw same with Patrick Ricard still missing time, the fullback there.

14:48Jason Moore:Quinchon Judkins did participate in full practice on Thursday. So he's going to practice in full Thursday on Friday. there was a report that he will play on Sunday without limitations really hard to imagine

15:01Mike Wright:I'm starting to have the ability to imagine him playing a bunch so I have him in two or three leagues and in one of those leagues it's a question now it's like oh because I don't have

15:13Jason Moore:good options and so I don't sit there and go quench on Jenkins you got to get him in your lineup immediately because what if he gets the workload but if you don't have any good options You want a bad question? Yeah. Do you want to feel pain? Oh, that's all I want right now.

15:27Mike Wright:How about I ask you Quinchon Judkins if he's active and starting? Of course. Or Kenneth Walker? I'd play Walker.

15:33Andy Holloway:I would play Walker as well. No, we're not there yet with Kenneth Walker. Let's take it a little easy.

15:40Mike Wright:Nick Chubb over Quinchon right now? Yes. So he's still a desperation running down play for week one.

15:46Andy Holloway:Look, process-wise, results may vary. Quinchon Judkins. Right, right. He literally could have five carries and two touchdowns. Side effects include nausea, like diarrhea. You don't know. So, I mean, for me and my teams, I'm playing a guy who I know is going to touch the ball 10 plus times.

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16:29Mike Wright:Yesterday we covered the Jags, Bengals, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, Lions, Rams, Titans, Patriots, Dolphins, 49ers, Saints, Bills, Jets, and the Seahawks-Steelers ballgame. So if you want to hear us break those games down for fantasy, just tune into yesterday's show and you can. It's just sitting there waiting for you. All right, today we're starting off the Cleveland Browns with Quinshawn Judkins. 0-1 traveling to Baltimore for the battle with the Ravens who are 0-1 and at home. Awful loss. Angry. Very angry and will really, really easily win this game. Vegas line Baltimore minus 11. Oh, come on.

17:09Mike Wright:11 and a half. Oh, man. Do it, Andy. No. Do it.

17:15Jason Moore:No. Not even close. Okay. I don't believe it. I'm taking them to cover though. 11 and a half. I'm not. Really?

17:23Andy Holloway:I had it in there forever in our weekly picks. I'm like, it's 11 and a half. You always take the points. And I went, hey! Is that Baltimore? I think they might cover.

17:36Mike Wright:It's 11 and a half. The over-under is 44. That gives the Browns 16 points. It's a tough situation to be like, hey, I'm going to go chase Dylan Samson or Judy Tillman Fannin. I don't like it. I really don't. You could have some targets. You can have some high passing volume. I think that is something you can bet on, but I'm not sure that they are going to have a lot of first downs in this game. I'm just not on the brown side.

18:03Andy Holloway:I'm still fine with the volume. Joe Flacco threw the ball 45 times last week. He's probably going to throw the ball. 45 would be the floor, I would say. Like, this could be a 50-attempt Joe Flacco game. So there will be – there may not be touchdowns, but, you know, you're talking five for 60. How many attempts last week? 45.

18:24Mike Wright:So out of 45 attempts, we were not happy with Judy. We were not happy with Njoku. We got the touchdown from Tillman. We were happy with Tillman. We were happy with Tillman. And Fannin, who no one started, but now they're going to try to start.

18:34Jason Moore:Njoku was fine. He was a little disappointing because we hoped for a big week, but then also you had Fannin was very good. What was he?

18:42Mike Wright:He was three for 37. I'm not fine with that. And I don't think you should be either, Jason. Where's your standards, man? I think tied in 23 in week one. Where's the Jalen Warren line for David Njogu? Three for 37? He's not a running back. Three for 37? No, that's miserable.

18:59Jason Moore:I didn't remember it was that bad. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm correcting you. That being said, I do think you look at last year, the Ravens defense, would you say it was good last year? Yeah, they have a good defense. But for fantasy purposes, because they've got such a great offense, teams have to throw a lot they were 23rd against quarterbacks 28th against wide receivers and so if joe flacker goes out there and throws the ball 50 times someone's catching those balls whether it's tillman i think is a a pretty fine play judy okay njoku i'm still probably starting all of those as kind of njoku's probably in and uh the wide receivers are flex options that you've just got to look at who else you have the real question here is people spent hard on harold fanon and And that one feels a little scary for me to throw right into the lineup after one week against the Bengals who we knew going in are historically bad against tight end.

19:52Mike Wright:I would play Fannin over Njoku. You would play Fannin over Njoku? That was going to be the question. Yes, I would. Because I think the way they utilized Fannin in the types of little designed stuff in the flats and out of the backfield, it's just the junk little guaranteed targets. And I feel better about that right now.

20:11Andy Holloway:I don't hate that take. I'd still play Najoku, but I think they are both playable as top 12-ish tight ends.

20:19Mike Wright:All I know is that, yeah, you're right. Somebody's going to have a – there will be a couple players that have a good game for the Browns, but not all of them.

20:28Jason Moore:Right. Yeah, no, certainly. You're not going to be happy with Judy, Fannin, Najoku, and Tillman. So the question is now running backs. You've got Dylan Sampson last week had eight targets. If you're in a full PPR, you're off, you're off everybody.

20:45Mike Wright:All of them this week. I'm off all of them this week. We're not going to get to run the ball that much. I mean, you could roll the dice with Sampson hoping you get targets, but I don't know what the Judkins utility will be. I feel like it's a wait-and-see weekend for Cleveland.

20:58Jason Moore:Yeah, I would prefer that route. If I were to start one, including Judkins, it would be Sampson. I mean, Sampson last week was the running back 16 in half PPR. you know when you get eight receptions eight for 64 is a good wide receiver yep so they're gonna have to throw the ball a lot i i'm fine starting samson you play lamar you play henry

21:16Mike Wright:you play zay flowers but is that the end of the story for baltimore this week yeah uh isaiah likely

21:23Andy Holloway:is practicing uh we will see what his status is going to be but with i don't think he was not

21:30Jason Moore:yeah i think he's still working on the side i think he had his helmet which was like a big deal Okay. So I don't think he's like practicing. Those things are pretty heavy. They're pretty heavy, especially if you put that guardian cap on.

21:40Mike Wright:He was working out in front of some people.

21:43Jason Moore:NFL needs to institute a universal everyone must wear a guardian cap rule. Because honestly, it might be better for players. But when no one else does and one guy does, you just look so stupid. You just look so stupid. You are very. Savion and Dobbs did it. Yeah. So I want them all. because then it's like hey you know you're all looking the same yeah or just can we just get a

22:10Andy Holloway:better helmet right yeah i think they've been trying yeah uh denver yeah i think if we had a path to that the nfl after uh old concussion kate they would have figured it out i'm not sure

22:21Mike Wright:the guardian caps are yeah i don't know are affected i don't know if they are we don't know i remember reading some stuff there might be some marginal tiny bit of data difference but I feel like they can make them look better, though.

22:34Jason Moore:Like, the same exact Guardian cap. I feel like they're doing a bad job with the logo on it or something. I don't know. I think it's because they have giant heads, Jason.

22:42Andy Holloway:It's bumpy. Right. So they have to, like, put a sheet over the bumpiness. They're doing their best, Jason. They're trying to protect their brains. I'm just telling them to protect all of them.

22:51Mike Wright:All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be back. The rest of the match-ups coming up, starting with Denver.

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25:13Mike Wright:the Denver Broncos limped to a victory in week one they are one to know they traveled to Indianapolis who looked great in week one also want to know Vegas has Denver one and a half point road favorites over under a 43 and a half um didn't get the offensive performance from the Broncos we were hoping for in week one but the Colts got everything they could have ever dreamed from Daniel Jones, who was very, very, very good in week one. So this should be –

25:42Andy Holloway:Johnny Taylor disagrees.

25:44Mike Wright:Johnny Taylor disagrees that Daniel Jones was good?

25:47Andy Holloway:No, he disagrees that Daniel Jones got the production that everyone wanted. Right. He stole. He stole from Johnny Taylor right at the goal line.

25:55Jason Moore:You know, I would have made a bigger deal about that because I've got Jonathan Taylor and two touchdowns vultured. Really, really upsetting. However, Jonathan Taylor had two opportunities to get the touchdown before they gave Daniel Jones. And that second one, it was like, I couldn't believe Jonathan Taylor didn't get in. And one guy tackled him. So shame on you for allowing that tackle. Daniel Jones came in. It was a punishment and a deserved punishment.

26:21Mike Wright:Yeah, Daniel Jones, two touchdowns on the ground. 22 for 29 through the air last week. Tough task facing the Denver defense, certainly. By the way, the last time Jonathan Taylor played the Broncos, he had that huge long touchdown run where he fumbled it before he crossed the goal line. He does not want to get in there. Yeah. But I did. Look, I said it would be Tyler Warren getting some of these tush bushes. It was Daniel Jones that got them. That will be something in play all year long when you have Daniel Jones because, hey, they worked. They worked, and that's what happens. But Jonathan Taylor did look good in week one.

26:55Mike Wright:Let's talk about the quarterbacks. Bo Nix, a lot of people drafted him fairly high. Is he right back out there completely giving him a pass on the disappointing week one? Is that your approach, Mike? Are you looking to find somebody else? He was the quarterback 27 in week one.

27:11Andy Holloway:There were two different questions. Sorry. Go on. I am putting him right back out there. I am not giving him a pass. That was a really pathetic opening performance of just all these trick shots of Bo Nix. A bunch of dude perfect stuff. Yeah, like he's on the run. He's like, check this out. You're like, zoom. Bro, set your feet. Set your feet. You're not Patrick Mahomes yet. Just set him. It really felt like he got full of him. Set him. Get your mechanics in and make a good throw. So I'm not giving him the pass, but I am going to play him again this week.

27:50Jason Moore:It'll be really interesting to see how, because the Broncos look terrible and the Colts looked great, but the Colts also played the Dolphins, who look terrible so it's like tbd is the is the colts defense somewhat responsible for what we saw against the miami dolphins we don't really know yet we didn't expect the colts to have a great defense but i think there's an opportunity here for them to present difficulties for the for the broncos in uh the colts this is they were they were in indy so this is they they stayed home home and home here for Indy.

28:24Andy Holloway:Right. So wide receivers for the Colts. Michael Pittman's last three games, nine for 109 with a score, six for 72, six for 80 and a score. Now the Denver Broncos defense is different. Do you have, Jay, you're kind of now the resident Michael Pittman.

28:40Jason Moore:I am. I've got him. I've got him everywhere. I believe in him. I think he's going to be a wide receiver too this entire season. He's still a play. And he is not going to be in my lineup this week. Okay. Who are you putting in over? So currently, and this is my League of Record roster, I have Pittman on the bench. I have Keon Coleman and Cedric Tillman in ahead. The Broncos' defense is really, really good. Pat Sertan came up on the injury report with a groin, so I'm monitoring that. But assuming Sertan is there with the Broncos' defense, I think Pittman's going to be great this year. This is not a matchup I'm looking for.

29:19Jason Moore:Stephon Diggs. I think I'd go Pittman there. Stephon Diggs didn't even play half the snaps. He's got targeted. Yeah, no, he was. Well, sure, but Pittman had a better game last week. Sure. Keon Coleman. I would continue putting Keon Coleman in ahead of Pittman. That's one of the players I have in my lineup ahead of him.

29:37Mike Wright:I made you a tradeoff for him.

29:39Jason Moore:I did see that. I have not rejected it, but I'm going to reject it. But I haven't yet. It was a fair offer. Well, I was going to look at countering, but. I left it there.

29:49Mike Wright:You're good. Yeah, I thought it was okay. People probably want to know what it is. I don't remember. Do you? I believe I offered you Travis Hunter.

29:58Jason Moore:Oh, it was the third round pick.

30:00Mike Wright:And Nick Chubb for Keon Coleman in the third round draft pick.

30:02Jason Moore:Yeah, the third is way too – people might not understand the value of our league, but a third is way too much for that. But it was a fair trade. I don't think it was bad.

30:11Mike Wright:Way too much or fair? It's tough.

30:14Jason Moore:It wasn't. Is that what you were laughing at, Al? Exactly what I was thinking.

30:17Andy Holloway:It's a real 5-10 situation.

30:20Jason Moore:When I say it's a fair trade, I mean it was not... Well, let's see if we can get something done. It was not an egregious offer. No, I mean Travis Hunter.

30:27Mike Wright:If I offered you Travis Hunter for Keon Coleman straight up, what would you do? Oh, man, that's interesting. Because we know what the draft looks like. What week is Waldron fired?

30:37Jason Moore:Okay, that's my biggest question. Man, that's a good question.

30:41Mike Wright:I thought about it, and then I was like, I don't know if I want to do this. I don't either. Wow. so I didn't ask me Mike what do you think I'm not involved all right Jonathan Taylor you play him yep Dobbins and Harvey I would expect to see a pretty much the same thing as last week personally I think Dobbins will be a good play when he scores for Denver and Harvey will be a limited snap high upside player um do you have any difference of opinion from week one to week two Mike I don't

31:11Andy Holloway:think so there was some press conferences where they were talking about we had some disappointments on offense and then highlighting that they were very pleased with rj harvey that doesn't mean he's going to get in there more it's it's it's bidet like six targets in the first half if that's really what sean payton's going to do for the time being which is bizarre but this is how he's going to run the offense and until our harvey's a sketchy play until we see that transition to being Dobbins and R.J. Harvey at the top.

31:44Mike Wright:Courtland Sutton, a 24 % target share in week one. Play him, but do you play Franklin, Mims, or Bryant, or just wait? I think you wait.

31:52Andy Holloway:I think you have to wait. The Marvin Mims snaps of the preseason did not continue, and he was down to a halftime player. So, I mean, look, 53 % of the snaps for Mims, I guess, is – It's still an upgrade. That's an upgrade over last year, but it was not the hope that we saw in the preseason.

32:11Jason Moore:And you don't know if that's him still coming back off that injury he suffered late in the preseason and he's getting worked back into the role that he had prior to that injury or whether it's basically Cortland Sutton and then packages with everybody else. And honestly, that's what I expect going forward unless someone just demands that they are winning on every route. I think it's going to be Mims and Franklin and a little bit of Pat Bryant.

32:33Mike Wright:We only got one touchdown from Knicks last week too. So if we can get a better performance for the offense, we'll have this discussion.

32:39Jason Moore:Those guys are best ball players.

32:41Mike Wright:Tyler Warren is a dog. Yes. Play him. And then Evan Ingram or Johnny Smith this week. What would you do? Johnny. Yeah, I don't think I'd. You don't want to mess around with the injury, right? Correct. Carolinas 0-1. They travel to Arizona 1-0. Vegas line, Arizona minus 6.5 at home over under 44 points gives Carolina 19 implied points. Arizona 25.5. You'll be happy. The game's in a dome. uh we've got well maybe maybe they'll have the roof open but probably not because it's a little hot it's a little hot all right we're home the cardinals are home the panthers everything that happened in week one for the panthers was depressing to me yeah there just wasn't any semblance of what we saw at the end of the year with bryce young it's um you know the cardinals are heavy favorites in every game where they're six plus point favorites here's kyler's numbers 251 passing yards 71 completion percentage and the cardinals covered the spread in eight and 12 eight of 12 so hopefully he looks better he was very sick last week we are going to take solace in the fact he was sick because we were sick when we watched it uh there is some good indications that maybe they're going to use marvin harrison a little bit better this year so far through week

33:54Andy Holloway:one yeah the kyle tweeted out the borgogan tweeted out the difference in his routes and the uptick in crossers and crossing routes was cross your fingers that that I'm sorry yeah I know I can't power through I'm sorry for that uh but we need that to stick that was the problem with Marv last year is everything they drew up for him was difficult and we need him to get easier just pitch catch and then let your top five talent do what he does.

34:28Jason Moore:I think it was really heartening. Going back and looking at his utilization made me excited for Marv going forward. And I think in this matchup, you can pretty much start every single Cardinal that's questionable. Kyler is a great start this week. James Conner, goodness gracious, the Carolina Panthers are the worst run defense we've ever seen at this point in time. Marvin Harrison is locked in. And while I don't... And Trey McBride. Yes, Trey McBride, of course. Well, I wouldn't sit there and recommend, hey, start Trey Benson. I think in a pinch. Yeah, if you're a zero RB team that has to start someone, you can easily see how it could get done in this match.

35:07Jason Moore:I agree.

35:07Mike Wright:33 % of snaps. That is tied for the highest snap percentage of his rookie year, Trey Benson. Chuba, you play him because he's a good running back, and it just works out for Chuba no matter what happens. Tett McMillan, the targets were there, the production.

35:22Andy Holloway:he dollied it he had nine targets he caught five of them

35:25Mike Wright:I like it I like it redemption he was working he's one of eight first round wide receivers to see nine plus targets in their first game we knew he would be the guy Jason you admitted yesterday you went from Xavier Leguette apologist to despise her in 24 hours

35:45Jason Moore:I mean in 22 seconds just watching the game

35:49Andy Holloway:like I really wanted that one play was was just preposterous of the like all wide receivers drag the feet and he was just like doodly do I'm gonna stroll through this catch he had five yards

36:01Jason Moore:yes to get that second foot down and he's just like I'm gonna run right out of bounds he's not a good wide receiver I mean I I wanted he's not I wanted he's a great athlete he was so impressive his final collegiate year he's a first round nfl draft pick the opportunity is in front of him going into year two he reminds me situationally a lot of keon coleman yes and it's like okay i'm gonna bet and on those guys i'm going to take shots and i i drafted a lot of keon coleman i drafted a lot of ligette and we i feel like one weekend we've got our answer one of them stepped forward and one of them stepped out of bounds yank you i was hoping

36:42Mike Wright:when you go there. Philadelphia 1-0 taking on the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Chiefs are 0-1. Vegas line here. Philly minus 1.5 road favorites. I don't know if we have an answer to this question, Kyle, if you're listening. I mean, when have the Chiefs been home underdogs?

37:03Jason Moore:Like in the Patrick Mahomes era?

37:05Mike Wright:Yeah, like have we had that in years? That has to never happen. He's going to look it up. I don't know if it's ever happened. At least in several years. this is the super bowl rematch and we've got the Eagles as favors favorites. So 46 and a half point over under this is, um, you know, Patrick Holmes was, was pretty good in week one from a fantasy perspective, right? He was 24 for 39. He ran a ton, six for 57 on the ground. Uh, we don't know if we'll have Xavier worthy or not. We think we probably won't Hollywood Brown dominated target chair in his absence juju will be involved i've already told you taekwon thornton will 42 yard he will score a

37:47Jason Moore:42 yard touchdown in this game so that means you're starting him over most questionable

37:51Mike Wright:pieces see i was asked that question and what i what my response is a guaranteed 10 points it is a guaranteed touchdown but when i make a touchdown guarantee that is really it's a really a heart decision so if you want to move them up in your ranks via your heart and believing right You can do that.

38:10Jason Moore:Not your analytical ranks.

38:12Mike Wright:Yeah, a touchdown guarantee. I mean, this is. He's also going to catch a pass on the first drive, just so you know. Okay. If you need that. Is it the touchdown? No. No. Just a catch.

38:22Jason Moore:Is he the first touchdown of the game?

38:27Mike Wright:We'll find out. I got something to watch in this one. So, I wonder what we'll see from Travis Kelsey this week.

38:36Andy Holloway:Man. week one is devastating honestly the fact that Worthy goes out immediately and then Travis Kelsey ends up with four targets two for 47 yeah he caught the touchdown but that is an 11 % target share for Travis Kelsey for a team that then fully featured Hollywood Brown

39:02Mike Wright:it was early It was early when it happened to Worthy, so you can look at this and say, hey, let's design some stuff to get Kelsey involved again.

39:12Andy Holloway:But the thing about Kelsey is you don't even fully design it. It's the, okay, here's the route. We know we're going to go to Kelsey. Go do something. They got shut down.

39:22Mike Wright:Yeah. They got shut down.

39:23Jason Moore:Most recent example, obviously, these teams played in the Super Bowl. In that Super Bowl, you had Xavier Worthy, who had eight for 157, and two was the star, and Travis Kelsey over there, four for 39. in the Super Bowl. So are you playing him? I mean, he's a low-end start for me. There are guys. Juwan Johnson. I would play Juwan Johnson over Travis Kelsey. Kyle Pitts. I'd play Pitts over Kelsey. Hawkinson. I'd play Hawkinson over Kelsey. Brenton Strange. That one, I think Strange's floor is higher, but Kelsey's, I would go Kelsey over Kelsey. Did you say Fannin? Nope. I would play Kelsey. I'm not as bullish on Fannin after one week.

40:02Jason Moore:I am super bullish on Fannin the rest of the season, But this week, I'm not confident enough yet.

40:08Mike Wright:Isaiah Pacheco, do we have a Pacheco problem? Since returning in week 13 last year, six games played total, he scored 26 fantasy points, 3.7 yards per touch. He has not looked like the Pacheco of old.

40:25Jason Moore:I think on a per-touch basis, he's okay, but he is not getting the utilization. I mean, he had five carries. they're they are splitting this work up three ways now if they just split it up between him and hunt you cannot play him if they're splitting it up three ways you certainly can't and if you're playing against the philadelphia eagles he's like a must bench like honestly i think trey benson is

40:48Andy Holloway:a better play than pacheco this i was gonna say i feel like we have a pretty good barometer of ken walker versus yeah ken walker ken walker pacheco okay the uh the answer by the way they

40:58Mike Wright:have not been home underdogs since 2022 so it's been a really really long time uh mahomes or herbert oh i'm herbert i'd play herbert baker or mahomes baker plays houston in houston i would

41:12Andy Holloway:play baker me too justin fields against buffalo fields on the other side simple enough jalen

41:18Mike Wright:hurt saquon barkley aj brown davante smith put them in your lineup dallas goddard might miss the game giving some more targets to the wide receiver position historically they have done

41:27Andy Holloway:very, very, very well. At what point would you pick up Dotson?

41:32Jason Moore:Let's say you come out and Dotson is... This morning in my guillotine league, brother.

41:38Mike Wright:It had to be done. Wow. I was going to say probably never, but maybe.

41:45Andy Holloway:For context, people... Three catches. A guillotine league is... Are we 17 or 18 teams? 17 teams. So that is a very, very deep roster. But I think Goddard being out is at least interesting for Dawson.

42:04Mike Wright:Sunday Night Football, the Falcons at 0-1 taking on the 1-0 Minnesota Vikings. Vegas line has Minnesota minus 3.5. The over-under is 44.5. One thing I noticed this week was J.J. McCarthy was not a high draft pick in fantasy. But man, was that fun to watch. And so people I've noticed really, really want to start him. they really want to find a way to get him into their lineup i you know i think this week it's

42:31Andy Holloway:okay i'm not going to force him into my lineup but i think that like bo nicks or jj mccarthy i think is a a fair and interesting question he's a consistency score of an a who oh 100 100 of

42:45Jason Moore:his game how's the first half consistency score that doesn't matter it's how you finish brother

42:50Mike Wright:Offensive player of the week. Yeah. Just outpacing Daniel Jones from the AFC.

42:57Jason Moore:Yeah, it is interesting. This is a matchup you certainly can roll the dice with. So if you want to play and have fun, I think J.J. McCarthy is a fine play. The Falcons' defense is not nearly as good as the Bears' defense that he faced last week. This is their home opener. They're favored by three and a half. They're projected for 24 points. It's a lot of feathers in the cap of being a fine start.

43:21Mike Wright:So Jefferson's in, Hawkinson's in.

43:24Jason Moore:And I think Hawkinson's important to say. He had a terrible first week, and I am holding. Oh, my gosh. I hope his numbers were better than Najoku.

43:34Mike Wright:Oh, they're very similar. Three for 15. That's worse. You're right. That's worse. Najoku, big week.

43:41Jason Moore:Sorry. Sorry. Go on. No worries. but Hockinson I've got to give it at least another week I I will have him in my lineups if I draft

43:50Andy Holloway:it they were their rate of passing was much lower compared to what we're normally seeing with with Kevin O 'Connell it might take a couple weeks to get that back up to speed we did not see anything

44:03Mike Wright:from Thielen he had no catches he had a two-byte conversion yeah Jordan Mason was Mike's start of the week aaron jones was the rb12 on 11 opportunities if you were staring that decision down a lot of people probably took aaron jones and maybe got mason later who would you start

44:19Jason Moore:jason i i would start aaron jones still i think he's the vet um i also oh i know he's the vet yes i think he gets the veteran treatment and will have the first opportunities this run defense i think is still even a little softer and then the passing work to me is still what scares me on the jordan mason's side jordan mason i think has a higher probability of getting a rushing touchdown in this game and would be a great start for that reason but outside of like if he doesn't get a touchdown he could end up with 70 yards have a great game look great and you'd be really disappointed in fantasy if he doesn't catch the ball you know so that's where i'd rather have the the more ways

44:58Mike Wright:to score for aaron jones let me ask you a question if you had to rate the falcons offensive performance in week one. One is the biggest sad face possible and ten is you're grinning from ear to ear. On the count of three, I want to hear the number that you would define from what you saw on film. So one to ten.

45:19Jason Moore:Can we use decimals or there's got to be whole numbers here? Whole numbers.

45:23Mike Wright:Three, two, one, six. You did not participate? Oh no, I was setting you up. I'm the host. Sorry. Do you want an answer for me? I would love your answer. Five. Okay. Okay. So, Bijan. Let's talk about Bijan for a moment because we may have seen the reception mask something interesting in week one. He was amazing in the passing game, and if that continues, you're never going to have a problem. He was 6 for 100 through the air, but he was only 12 for 24 on the ground, and the bigger thing that has been brought up, or maybe not brought up enough, he really split the work with Tyler Algier in the backfield.

46:00Mike Wright:He split the rushing work. Just to be clear, it's stupid.

46:03Jason Moore:It is stupid to – I wonder how much of that was game plan. Obviously, they know the Tampa Bay Buccaneers very, very well. They know Vita Veya. They know how difficult it is to run on the Buccaneers' defensive line. And so during that game, Bijan wasn't sharing the field that much. He was 83 % of snaps. You love to see that. He was just – half the time he was a wide receiver, and then he split the running back carry. So this will be a really interesting test to see if – does it go more 70-30 rushing attempts, or is it still more 50-50 rushing attempts, which would then be very, very stupid?

46:37Mike Wright:Well, they are facing a terribly, terribly difficult rushing defense, probably worse than last week. I mean, you're going to have Jalen Carter back, and we don't like running on the Eagles.

46:51Jason Moore:Oh, I am a fool. What, the Vikings? You scared me. Oh. I was wondering what I was – I thought Carter got traded. Rip your cerebro. The Vikings are a good run, D, for sure. last year.

47:03Mike Wright:Sorry, they were sixth against the run, and I put Philadelphia in their place.

47:06Jason Moore:Yeah, in week one, they were sixth against the run. Last season, they were third against the run. They're a very difficult run team as well. So hopefully, the nice thing that we saw from last week is that if you're in a difficult matchup for running backs, then just throw them the ball. Just get them out in space. So there is a piece of me that can see how that could be worrisome, but I think it's a beneficial thing. It's like Devon Achan. You don't have to worry about how good he is on the ground, usually, because he's used as much as a wide receiver is.

47:37Andy Holloway:And it wasn't that they were 50-50 in carries at the end of last year, talking Algier and Bijan, but Algier is still in a lot of those games after the bye week, got a lot of attempts. I think that what happened was Bijan was very ineffective, and they said, okay, we'll try Algier, and then Algier was very ineffective. It comes down to catching the ball. So Bijan's still fine.

48:02Mike Wright:Kyle Pitts is your start of the week, Mike?

48:03Andy Holloway:Yep. In a world of needing tight ends, I think that he should be an okay play. Now, with the news that sounds like Darnell Mooney might play, that does create a downgrade in my mind to Kyle Pitts.

48:20Mike Wright:Mooney and London were limited on Thursday. We'll follow the injury reports today. and we'll take a break. I'll try to remember which teams are playing each other.

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50:35Mike Wright:All right, are we happy about the Monday Night Football doubleheader?

50:38Andy Holloway:Because it's spread out.

50:40Mike Wright:7 p.m. Eastern, 10 p.m. Eastern. Oh, man.

50:44Andy Holloway:East Coast, get wrecked. Wait. Want to ruin your Monday?

50:49Jason Moore:Oh, guess what? You get Monday night.

50:50Andy Holloway:You get Tuesday morning football.

50:53Mike Wright:Is everyone canceling work on Tuesday? How do East – look, we're West Coast guys.

50:58Andy Holloway:Best Coast, thank you.

50:59Mike Wright:And I don't – I really don't know. How does this work? I mean, hold on. Is Kyle on the microphone? Can we record Kyle? He is, yeah. Kyle, you're back in Georgia.

51:09Jason Moore:East Coast.

51:10Mike Wright:Where Jalen Carter played. and um how do you survive i go to sleep oh you don't watch oh big football fan kyle i watch in

51:22Andy Holloway:the morning before you guys wake up okay okay yeah but you don't get to live in the i just

51:27Mike Wright:thought maybe east coast is just they just always stay up three hours later most of them do kyle is

51:32Andy Holloway:very responsible father is yeah a 10 p.m start that's wild that's crazy i am happy that it's a

51:39Jason Moore:that it's a doubleheader mostly because I am worried about watching the Texans this year for fun's sake yeah like they for funsies for funsies they've got such a good defense and right now their offensive line looks so bad that I'm worried that whether they can move the ball or not and so I think you're going to end up with a lot of really ugly games not that like if I'm a Texans fan I'm not pessimistic on my season outlook I'm just speaking solely as entertainment of football

52:09Andy Holloway:it's worrisome thankfully this is i mean at least last year the bucks were a team that we

52:14Mike Wright:would exploit through the air tampa bay takes on the houston texas tampa won in week one houston lost the vegas line is houston minus two and a half the overrunner is 42 and a half this is the early game so uh yeah i mean it was not encouraging week one cj stroud and company like not having joe mixon finding their way on the run with the running game like i think they do need to commit to somebody a little bit more. They seem to be saying that they're going to do that with Nick Chubb, who actually was pretty good on the ground. When you think about the game script and the fact that this team was, you know, they lost a really low-scoring, nasty game, 14-9 against the Rams.

52:51Mike Wright:They finally started giving him the football. He ended up 13-for-60. They talked about him needing to get going. I think this will be a really defining week for whether Nick Chubb is a viable fantasy player rest of the season.

53:03Jason Moore:Well, the utilization will be there for Nick Chubb. They did figure that out. They came out afterwards and said they need to get him more involved. If you look at the rushing attempts broken up over the course of the team, yeah, Chubb only had 48%. But that was still the vast lion. Like, Daria Gumbawale had 7%. Damian Pierce had 11%. Woody Marks had 11%. So it was mostly Chubb. The issue here is, again, this is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Vita Veyer and Jalen Carter. So how can you possibly stop him?

53:35Andy Holloway:This is the team that just, like, they, on the ground at least, they stopped Algier and Bijan.

53:43Jason Moore:Right, yeah, and they have for years. They've been a tough team to run on. So Nick Chubb, that style, stylistically, I don't love it. I do think he'll have the work. I'm not going to, after this week, use this week's success as a barometer for whether Nick Chubb will be a good fantasy option. I think he'll have better days ahead.

54:01Mike Wright:Mike Evans one weekend just play him and yeah see how it goes yeah Mike Mike Evans has never been

54:08Jason Moore:honestly the most consistent wide receiver even over the course of years when you go back to when you had a wonderful my guy pick of Mike Evans finished awesome still had so many down weeks he had eight targets 51 yards it wasn't you know it wasn't uh great but certainly you're going to

54:24Mike Wright:keep playing him Emeka Abuka two touchdowns every week I think we know that'll always happen forever I do have him he's on pace for 34 right 34 touchdowns that's what my projection has good Bucky Irving 76 percent of snaps higher than any single game from his rookie year including involvement in the passing game I think it's going to be a really nice week for Bucky yeah you needed

54:44Andy Holloway:to if you drafted Bucky you just after week one was not what you hoped for I mean it ends up not being the worst fantasy output but you can at least wrap yourself in the blanket of his usage

54:56Jason Moore:Oh, man, Rashad White had three opportunities in the game, and Sean Tucker had one. This is Bucky's backfield.

55:04Mike Wright:All right, Kate Otten, don't worry about it. No. Baker. He's still fine as a top-12 play. Nico Collins did not see a single deep target. They were – you know, Stroud was really under fire in that game. I mean, they scored nine points.

55:20Jason Moore:I do think they're going to – you know, when you watch film, A lot of this was on Stroud, and I don't necessarily blame him. I mean, if I were taking the snap, I would just start running the other way every time I got the ball. The offensive line is so, so bad. This is a good defensive line across from them, so there's some worries there. But you can throw on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I expect Stroud to figure some stuff out, step up in the pocket, look better. Nico is obviously still going to be in your lineup. I mean, he should have been one of our starts of the week just to make sure people are confident and not over-worried with a bad week.

55:57Jason Moore:So why don't you do it? Hmm? Why don't you do it? Okay, he's my start of the week. I've got two.

56:03Mike Wright:Okay. Jaden Higgins had his first game, 11 routes. We'll see what happens in week two. He's a wait and see and watch and hopefully, I mean, we all want to see the Texans offense give a sign of life. Right now they seem like they just never showed up.

56:17Jason Moore:I'm hoping for over 60 % snap for Jaden Higgins.

56:20Mike Wright:they have not top 23 points scored since week 12 of last year the texans yeah i mean that's how it

56:27Jason Moore:feels it is how it feels their offensive line is such a problem i i feel like it's offensive they need to they need to just be running with two tight ends every single play and let nico go figure out double coverage all right the chargers and raiders they're both undefeated

56:45Mike Wright:los angeles heads into las vegas to take on the raiders vegas line chargers minus three and a half the over under is 46 and a half both offenses look good in week one um you know geno was 71 completion percentage 362 passing yards he's got players to take deep shots with right with uh thornton and trey tucker he's got the underneath guys myers and bowers and we'll see what happens with bowers this week he had a 10.6 yards per attempt if you compare that to look i said caleb made some good plays. I think he was at six. So it's nice. I like it when players are willing to chuck it.

57:23Jason Moore:So Jacoby Myers is such a good play. And what we saw in week one, especially with the immediate departure of Amari Cooper, you know, that that gave me a little bit of worry of like, OK, well, Brock is the one he's the number one target. Jacoby is probably the two. But now you've got Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper is gone. Jacoby goes out and has 10 targets, catches nine of them. I think he's going to be excellent this season. This week, you might not have Brock Bowers, so Jacoby Myers becomes extremely important.

57:52Mike Wright:Does that make you have some confidence in starting somebody else as well when they're at home? You can't run on the Chargers. You couldn't last year. You probably can't this year.

58:01Andy Holloway:If you're going to wait on Brock Bowers, this is very, very hypothetical, so I apologize if the news you already have it is perfectly fine. If you're going to be approaching Monday and you're not 100 % sure that he's going to play, would you wait on him and then just play Mayer if Brock doesn't go?

58:20Jason Moore:I'd be willing to do that. I am willing to do that, yeah. Mayer had four targets, four receptions for 38, which is obviously, as we've established, a great line for a tight end. And he did that while Brock Bowers was very involved, obviously. So if Bowers is out, I think it's worth going with Mayer.

58:39Mike Wright:Yeah, you know, just you watched the game last night. You said Jordan Love chucked it deep. He was 9.4 in a temp last night. That's how good Geno was in terms of downfield targets. He was at 10.6. Herbert, it was awesome to see in week one. He's Jason's start of the week on the road here in week two, who also got talked up on the DinoPod this week. I'd play Herb over Dak for sure this week. I'd play him. Him and Fields, I would probably play Fields, but I think either one's fine. You can flip a coin. What do you think?

59:09Jason Moore:I've got Herbert one spot ahead of Fields, but Fields is my quarterback seven on the week so both are good plays to me Justin Herbert is a great quarterback and Justin Fields is not and they both can have great fantasy output so I

59:25Mike Wright:would rather play Herbert all right we have Najee Harris maybe he gets more involved Amari in Hampton

59:31Jason Moore:where are you with him after one week I'm very encouraged by his utilization 80 % of snaps 17 opportunities. We knew going in last week that Kansas City was going to be a very, very difficult matchup. And I don't see the Raiders as a pushover, but they're certainly not an unstoppable defense by any means.

59:52Mike Wright:I have Hampton at 17 right now in my weekly rankings. Feels appropriate. Keenan Allen's my start of the week at wide receiver. Quentin Johnston can be played in this game. Ladd McConkie as well. I think this is going to be the, you know, Kyle will be asleep, but I think this is going to be the game you look forward to. Oh, yeah. And I think it's going to be a lot of fun. The fact that it's in Las Vegas after that week one performance by the Raiders where, you know, I saw some things I really liked. I hope Bowers can play to make this. Because I think they're going to really, really need him.

1:00:21Jason Moore:Who scores more fantasy points in this game? Really think about it. Am I in Hampton or Ashton Gentry? Because Gentry is going to be higher in everybody's rankings. He obviously drafted higher. But the touchdown opportunities and the passing work Seemed like they both favor Omari and Hampton. The passing work? The receiving work? I mean, not like dropping back to pass. But, I mean, Ashton Gentry caught two passes last week. So did Hampton. Hampton, wasn't his route participation better? Maybe. I mean, they were both extremely, you know, they're on the field all the time. And, granted, I will say that the one caveat to that, they could be working Najee more and more in.

1:00:59Jason Moore:For all we know, come week four, Omari and Hampton's going to be down at, you know, 55 % of snaps. Thank you. So what is the answer? I'd still go Gentry. I think Hampton scored more points.

1:01:13Mike Wright:Okay. I'm having a hard time. We'll go with my rankings. I've got Gentry up ahead of Hampton. So it should be fun. There's a lot of fantasy-relevant players in this game, and it's a pretty close line.

1:01:26Andy Holloway:What's the level for Kuge? What type of names are you willing to play him over? because he was the hot waver head.

1:01:35Mike Wright:Keyshawn Booty or Quinton Johnston?

1:01:38Jason Moore:I'd play Quinton. I think they're both. They both have some question marks, so I will go upside of Quinton.

1:01:45Mike Wright:Jalen Waddell or Quinton Johnston? Quinton Johnston. Keon Coleman or Quinton Johnston?

1:01:51Jason Moore:Keon Coleman.

1:01:52Mike Wright:Michael Pittman or Quinton Johnston?

1:01:55Jason Moore:This week, if Sertan is active, I'll go huge.

1:02:00Mike Wright:All right. that'll do it for the matchups but we still have the face-off

1:02:09Jason Moore:fantasy face-off presented by prize picks

1:02:16Mike Wright:what do we call this getting our feet wet is that what this is we're just warming up getting our wigs on um we had testing the water every week we build a lineup based on the prize picks projections and if you get that pick correct you get to put on a crown if it's incorrect you you look like mike and jason this week and uh if one of you stands alone as the loser will spin the wheel of shame which did not happen this week um i i feel like a winner i was not a winner i i took dk metcalf we should get it we should get a tie oh that's a good idea yeah anybody got a spare tie laying around i don't think we do i forgot mine today this is good bow tie count pre-shirt you put a bow on it bow tie yeah yeah i i tied so i am not in the clown outfit speaking of ash and jinty's two receptions yeah you knew that number intimately i knew that number

1:03:11Jason Moore:intimately because throughout the end about the second half of the game uh the falcon let us know that he had three and so i i was a i was a king um except he didn't except he was wrong and he He finished the game with two.

1:03:25Mike Wright:James Conner's rushing projection last week was 69 and a half yards. He only ended up with 39 yards in that matchup.

1:03:31Andy Holloway:It was really disappointing. Blame Trey Benson.

1:03:35Mike Wright:You're in a clown wig now. So our week two picks, I'm going to go Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. There are a few players that I was more impressed with in week one and their utilization where they were on the field and how they looked. More than 61.5 receiving yards. 61.5 is shockingly low. Yeah. Well, I'm taking more.

1:03:58Andy Holloway:Yeah, I totally agree.

1:03:59Mike Wright:He had 83 % of his teams receiving yards last week.

1:04:04Andy Holloway:Oh, and I think on the show I exclaimed, yeah, because he had a 50 % target share. It was 59. Oh, yeah. So I apologize for my inaccuracy.

1:04:15Jason Moore:All right. My pick this week I think is pretty fun. I love Zach Charbonnet. I think he's going to be involved. I think he's perfect for this offense. This is an interesting one. But the projection is 12 and a half yards for his longest rushing attempt. So his breakaway run, will he hit 13 yards or more? I am going to say no. I'm taking less than 12 and a half rushing yards. And here's why. Well, first of all, last week his longest was seven. But look at last year. Last year, he only did it three times. 13 of 17 games, he did not have one single rush attempt that was more than 12 1⁄2 yards. And in those three games, those just so happened to be the three games where he had over 80 % of snaps and was basically alone.

1:05:05Jason Moore:So he's going to split 50-50 here this week with Walker. And so he's just not that type of a breakaway runner.

1:05:14Andy Holloway:All right, Mike, your projection here. All right, so I'm going with Russell Wilson. His projection is 217.5 passing yards, and I am taking the less.

1:05:24Mike Wright:And I see a reason here in a bullet point reason.

1:05:27Andy Holloway:Like Andy, Jason, they laid out some real good statistical.

1:05:31Jason Moore:96 % of Zach Charbonnet's carries went for fewer than 15 yards last year, bottom fifth percent. There is data here.

1:05:39Andy Holloway:Yeah, check this out. Russ stinks. That's data. That's your reasoning?

1:05:43Mike Wright:Yeah. Less than 217.5 passing yards. Yeah, because he stinks. Stinking. All right. That was Fantasy Face-Off presented by PrizePix. Check out max discounts on the app now like Travis Kelsey at more than.5 receiving yards for the September 14th game. Use the code FOOTBALLERS and get$50 instantly in lineups when you play$5. That's going to do it. Y 'all look dumb in them wigs. Let's hope to get that turned around. Some crowns next week. Studs and duds on Monday. Mike on Sunday Live. Don't miss it. Take care. Goodbye.

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