Fantasy Football - Week 5 Studs & Duds + Cardinals Choke Job - Podcast for 10/6

15:10Jason Moore:Presented by Progressive Insurance. Actually, I do feel a little bit better having talked to you about it for the first time. Okay.

15:18Mike Wright:And to share the misery. Yeah.

15:20Jason Moore:Yeah. It was the most embarrassing loss. I'm so happy we lost. It is the most embarrassing loss we've ever had. At the very end, I was rooting for us to lose because we deserved to not walk out of there with a W. You deserve to walk out with your head held low.

15:37Mike Wright:Everybody but them knew what was going to happen if you punted the ball back up two. All right. Xavier Worthy now listed as questionable. He was a full practice all week. His ankle was a little swollen when he arrived in Jacksonville. He is technically questionable for tonight's game, and that is a bummer because you were and are and have been counting on him. He was my start of the week. If he doesn't go, obviously you have pivot options tonight that are probably on your waiver wire. Juju.

16:10Jason Moore:Taequann Thornton. Thornton would be, yeah. If Thornton is on the waiver.

16:14Mike Wright:Brock Bowers took the week off. We reported that, had Sunday Live.

16:19Jason Moore:He might take more than a week off. The bone bruise Matthew Betts was talking about, if you play through it, it can affect his long-term health. So they might give him a multi-week break.

16:30Mike Wright:Whatever it takes to be Brock Bowers again. And by the way, I did get an update just now from Ian Rapcheat himself, Rapaport himself. Worthy is expected to play. Buck Yirving dealing – this was reported yesterday. I talked about it on Sunday Live as well. He's dealing with a shoulder injury. so a lot of people he was in he was in a boot and on crutches and yet it was reported yesterday that the shoulder injury was more severe and more of a reason why he's missing time yeah i mean they're

17:00Jason Moore:expected him they're expecting him to miss at least two weeks so more rashad white uh jordan

17:07Mike Wright:addison was binged in the first quarter of the game for missing a walkthrough during the week uh justin jefferson talked about it after the game addison ended up with the game winning touchdown Kyler Murray actually left the game with a foot injury, came back in after the Demarcato play, which Brissett had handed the ball off on that one because he had to. Because he had to come back in to hand it off to third and fourth string running backs to lose the game. Right. Because Brissett couldn't have done that.

17:34Jason Moore:And then when asked for details on the injury, all he said is, we'll see. He's trying to cope with whether he wants to play for the Cardinals.

17:40Mike Wright:I own so many Cardinals hats.

17:42Jason Moore:You do. You're wearing one right now.

17:44Mike Wright:Yeah, this is the one I picked out today. Oh, I see why. I just felt like it was saying.

17:49Jason Moore:There must be like a Nickelodeon. Yeah, but to me it's slimed.

17:53Mike Wright:The Cardinals got slimed this weekend.

17:55Jason Moore:No, that's a good hat. Yeah, for a bad team.

17:58Mike Wright:Burn it. Burn it all. Omari and Hampton. This was big news. Walking boot on the left ankle. He was, like I watched this game at the end. Kamani Vidal says soon ended up getting the carries after he went out. he was running on the sideline trying to do that warm-up stuff on the sideline um you know hopefully that means it's not going to be a long time but if it's a high ankle sprain we know the story right you either miss nothing or generally three games yep and they they really could have used him at the end of that game yeah uh car oh goodness gracious their offensive line like

18:33Jason Moore:they're not scoring a lot of points the chargers are not scoring a lot of points since they've lost

18:38Mike Wright:three-fifths of their offensive line no no and all of the i have a starter the rest of the year

18:44Jason Moore:justin herbert no he's he's a i mean that was me he's a he's a flex option or a you know he's a streaming option you need to look at who else you have uh we had antonio gibson left with a knee

18:57Mike Wright:injury the patriots lost well ramondre fumbled again then antonio gibson hurt himself and then Ramondre scored twice.

19:07Jason Moore:They like Ramondre Stevenson. That is the most

19:11Mike Wright:simple statement, the most true statement for fantasy football.

19:15Jason Moore:It doesn't matter if you like Ramondre Stevenson. It really doesn't. The Patriots like Ramondre Stevenson. They think he is important. They went into Buffalo. They won the game. They won the game, and

19:29Mike Wright:this is the biggest disconnected fantasy football in the NFL this entire season is Travion Henderson. The NFL, that's who has to believe that he's a three-down running back. That's who has to believe that he can handle between the tackles work and pass protection. They have to believe it. It doesn't matter if we believe it. It doesn't matter if he runs really fast. I remember C.J. Spiller used to run really fast. Reggie Bush can run really fast. But if the NFL decides that Travion Anderson is a committee back and that's just what he's going to be, you're going to just be mad the rest of your life if you don't accept that.

20:04Jason Moore:Yeah, I think the Spiller comp is a little weird. Don't forget, he was the running back seven on one of these seasons. He had an awesome breakout year, but yes, I agree. C.J.

20:17Mike Wright:Spiller was the quintessential every year you were met.

20:21Jason Moore:Yes, except for the one where he finishes the running back seven. But yes, most of his career he was irrelevant and very fast. But that's an unnecessary throwback to C.J. Spiller. Well, look, it is what it is.

20:37Mike Wright:It could be a major injury for Antonio Gibson, though. The snaps were 50-50. Yeah, I mean, Henderson. He's going to get more work. Henderson will get more work.

20:45Jason Moore:He just won't get all of it. Right, and he does not appear to be like the primary between the tackles runner. That will be Ramondre. Ramondre will get better, not just Henderson.

20:57Mike Wright:Yeah, that's a good point. Darius Slayton left with a hamstring injury, didn't return. It's a Thursday night game against the Eagles. uh wandale robinson didn't work out slayton didn't work out there were big pickups on the week and the giants didn't work out they lost to the saints that was news and notes sponsored by progressive insurance quote today at progressive.com progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third-party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms limits and conditions take a break we'll talk studs

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24:45Jason Moore:Baltimore in Baltimore being the underdogs felt wild. But and to both your and Mike's credit, you thought I was crazy with all the injuries. Stroud was number one. It's wild.

24:55Mike Wright:Mike made him a start of the week. He hasn't been in the start of the weeks for forever. Yeah. And they got number one raced.

25:01Jason Moore:Number one quarterback. Yeah. I mean, Baltimore is in trouble.

25:05Mike Wright:They are in real trouble. That defense, I talked about it on Sunday Live. They have like major pieces missing on the defensive side that already wasn't good. Dak was number two. Dak just needed CeeDee to get out of the way to put up big numbers for you. I can't wait for CeeDee Lamb to be back. I can't wait. Coming soon. Yeah. Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield battled one another and ended up 3-4 in the fantasy scorers of the week. It was an amazing game in the throwback jerseys. That are amazing. And those two guys went back and forth. Baker narrowly beating Sam Darnold. and then Justin Fields insanely finished number five.

25:45Jason Moore:Yeah, because he played awful.

25:46Mike Wright:I thought I botched that start of the week again with Justin Fields. Is it because he looked terrible as a quarterback? It was because he is so dumb as a quarterback sometimes. Him and Geno Smith this week, they were so bad, and yet the garbage man can because you had Justin Fields. Oh, the garbage man can. He had 46 % of his points in the fourth quarter. Did you see Mason Taylor? 12 targets, 9 catches. I'll put that kitty cat in my tight end spot.

26:18Jason Moore:I will, too. I've been saying it with Mike. That is – he does not have the dog. You don't have to have – not everybody has to have the dog to be – Dog, cat, gerbil, I don't care. Give me 9 catches.

26:29Mike Wright:I can live with it. Mike's ultimate day, and he's not here, Rico Dowdle number 1 on the week on my bench against you.

26:39Jason Moore:Thank you for that. Against you. Thank you for that. Rico was unstoppable. 26 for 206. He had multiple 45, 50-yard runs. I mean, this was a game where you saw Miami get some of the offense going that we've been waiting for. Three touchdowns from Tua, and they lost the game. Dude. And they lost the game because Rico.

27:01Mike Wright:Rico is playing Dallas next week. Oh, revenge. Rico is going to – I mean, he's come out and said they got to buckle up they know i mean he played so well yeah he played so well and so you had um i mean he was an amazing star jonathan taylor number two kyron number three javante number four let's grab another top five player on my bench cory krosky merit i give you a lot of credit on this one he split so much time with chris rodriguez last week that the people were scared to start him he had missed all of the week of practice the week before this was the breakout game it really was this is what you're waiting for this was a

27:45Jason Moore:dominant performance from from bill bill kroski oh that son of a gun he eats chick-fil-a on sundays

27:55Mike Wright:yeah yeah he did he ate it all day long two touchdowns caught the ball uh chunk play after Chung play it was an impressive like it's a it's a tier adjustment yeah for JCM he is now a start worthy player every week and the team they came back from a deficit in which they I think there was one completion by Jayden Daniels with eight minutes left in the second quarter they end up really blowing out the Chargers in a game they were down 10 nothing so impressive Javante so

28:25Jason Moore:impressive keeps doing it yeah he he keeps doing it every single week I mean the the matchups have been pretty good for him on the ground. But, I mean, he's got Carolina coming up, and he looks outstanding. The workload is there. I mean, the opportunities, 18 opportunities this week, 23 opportunities the week before. He's had 18 and 25 before that. I mean, he is the utilization for fantasy football, the expected fantasy points. It's what you dream of. And, I mean, it's a good offense. They're playing great on the offensive side. Dak is Dak's cooking. He's so good.

29:05Mike Wright:CMC, Rashad White Oh my gosh, I can't believe David Montgomery throwing a touchdown is going to be the difference between you beating me or not, but it is It is Jameer Gibbs got into the end zone again, Saquon caught the big touchdown pass But only six

29:22Jason Moore:rushing attempts

29:22Mike Wright:Well, look, we were Sunday live, I was talking to Al, and I said I know the matchup is bad, but I bet they throw the ball a ton because of all this hoopla and you know what they got their first loss you got what you wanted and you lost the game and then did you see the hail mary with davante smith and aj brown yeah i did yeah yeah they aj brown was like give me that and it just took it right out of davante

29:49Jason Moore:smith's hands did you see the uh aj brown uh bomb that would have been a touchdown but he just kind of stopped running on the route no there was an effort play though he had a he had a play he was even asked about it afterwards like why did you slow up on that play because he has this long developing route ends up beating his guy and then as soon as he beats the guy he kind of slows down it seemed like he just assumed the ball wasn't going to come yeah that looks over his shoulder the ball's coming he speeds up and the ball's just about a yard ahead of him overthrown and it's like dude that would have been i mean that would you you would have already

30:27Mike Wright:lost yep michael carter 18 for 51 and a touchdown five targets for 22 yards the breakdown was 18 carries for him three for demarcato four for bam knight who did score we mentioned him on sunday live michael carter was the play yeah i don't know why michael starter yeah there's so much like I don't know like strange anger out there about like saying Michael Carter was going to

30:53Jason Moore:start instead of Demarcato well it was it was it was the right call um you know will continue to be oh yeah I mean they're not giving Demarcato more work I I mean there's a chance he's not on that team anymore Jonathan Gannon screamed and Jonathan Gannon is not the most fiery type he's not the most disciplinary like yell at his guys type that no he mostly looks like he doesn't give a crap yeah he was not happy with the mark cut I think he might have punched him I think he might have punched Amari DiMarcato there's some video um yeah so anyways Michael Carter will be the starter going forward until I mean Trey Benson's on IR um and Carter's gonna get a lot of the snaps

31:38Mike Wright:This was a strange game. Brees Hall against Dallas. He was great. He was 14 for 113. Mind you, this is the same Dallas that will get Rico Dowdle next week. Had five targets. Had a fumble loss. Left seemingly hurt but came back. He's averaging 5.3 a carry on the season.

31:55Jason Moore:He looks like he's got his burst back, which is great. And the big fear of Justin Fields being the quarterback, not checking the ball down. He's getting enough targets. I mean, he's a pretty great play every week. Yeah, I watched that game.

32:09Mike Wright:The targets are always coming at the same time. It is the time of game in which they are losing by a bunch, which is every week. That's fine for me. J.K. Dobbins got it done again. Another touchdown for Dobbins. 13-15, 12-19, 14. That is what he's been at the running back position.

32:24Jason Moore:The fantasy, the running back finish.

32:26Mike Wright:Yeah, he's a guaranteed RB2 every week right now. Ramondre, two touchdowns on 14 rushing yards. We talked about him. Got the win. All right, this will make me smile. Yay. Emeka Abuka is the number one wide receiver on the week.

32:41Jason Moore:Number three on the season.

32:43Mike Wright:I mean, this is 27.8 points. He is the only player at 25-plus receptions, 400-plus receiving yards, and five-plus receiving touchdowns in his first five career games ever. And he's the third highest fantasy points through five weeks ever. This is just unbelievable how well he's playing with Baker. and um like if you had to if you had to place the bet that he finishes in the top five would you make

33:10Jason Moore:that bet i don't think i would make that bet simply because you got five touchdowns in the first five games sure and so i would imagine at the end of the year let's say he finishes with 10 touchdowns a great number for a rookie season that would be five touchdowns over the rest of the season you just don't expect that pace to happen but if you told me top 10 i'd be i mean I'd be almost surprised at this point if he doesn't finish top 10. He looks the part. I mean, he was, you know, one of my favorite prospects coming out. And, man, he is – he's dominating. And the connection with Baker, I mean, we – you know, when I was making the case for him earlier this season, we brought up Baker's quotes in the offseason, unsolicited quotes, talking about, like, what are you excited about for the Buccaneers this year?

33:51Jason Moore:And he's just like, Emeka Ibuka, this kid is legit. He's real. he's you know now the quotes are just talking about how like he's just got it all figured out

34:00Mike Wright:as a man like as a person yeah no and you listen to his interviews he's a different dude he's he's

34:05Jason Moore:awesome jamar chase was number two on the week that was a little stinky um no two touchdowns no i no no no no i know but it was if you want to talk garbage time i mean they're getting blown out it was like both touchdowns were a little late i mean they're they're coming back they were both second half jamar chase is i will say this look this is why you play jamar chase every week yes Halfway through the third quarter, you were like, I can't play Jamar Chase anymore.

34:27Mike Wright:No, I get it. JSN, welcome back to the top five. He's a machine. Jalen Waddle, this was awesome to see. Yeah. Jalen Waddle, when there's no Tyreek, heavily involved. If you played Waddle, if you played Waller, which, by the way, I could not get those names straight on Sunday morning. I all can attest to that. No matter what I was saying, I'd say the opposite name.

34:47Jason Moore:Jalen Waller.

34:48Mike Wright:Yeah. But it was great to see. He also instantaneously limped off the field. I mean, he caught a pass that was a normal pass. Right, Al? Oh, yeah. Nothing happened. Yep. Nothing happened at all. It's like he's got sensitive skin. I don't know what it is. This is why. I think I made the comment his two trainers were helping him off the field. Yeah, you said his two best friends.

35:09Jason Moore:There goes Waddle and his two best friends. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is how I know he listens to the show because he's in on the bit now.

35:15Mike Wright:Yeah, he's got to be. He came right back and was fine. and Debo Debo once again in the top five 19.6 points that touchdown made me so unhappy oh I

35:27Jason Moore:mean it's against me yeah that was my only shot it's the weirdest touchdown because it's kind of it was like a garbage time touchdown but you don't usually have garbage time touchdowns from the lead it was like no the cardinals would never no it was like they were like uh you know let's just we We got to throw it around. I'll wait and take as much clock as I can and then throw it to the back. And it was just garbage time winning touchdown.

35:51Mike Wright:And Stephon Diggs also had 19.6 points along with Debo. And Diggs was a machine.

35:56Jason Moore:Last week you brought up Diggs about the fact that he was off to a slow start but getting more and more involved. The fact, you know, last week he was 63 % of the snaps. He was up to seven targets. Had 100 yards. He was starting to get finally used down the field. And then lo and behold, I know this was revenge game coming back to Buffalo. Hold on a second.

36:15Mike Wright:I just got the worst trade-off I've ever seen in my life. Oh, please tell me it's from someone in this room. It's from Papa Josh. Of course it's from Papa Josh. Let me ask you, Jason, are you interested in Torrey Horton and a six-round pick for Ja 'Cory Krosky Merritt? Are you kidding me? Because that's what I've been offered. You? No, they did not offer it. Torrey Horton and a six? What? You don't get to do this during the show and not get called out on this one. How do you turn that down? I don't know. Maybe after we got done talking about it being his breakout game and how he finished in the top five, that really motivated Josh to send me.

36:54We should go get him.

36:55Jason Moore:This is the Amari DiMarcado of trade offers. Now, keep in mind that six-round pick. We are a three-round keeper league. Yeah, it's like a ninth. So it's like a ninth-round pick. If I could explode his computer right now, I would do it. I mean, Torrey Horton, he had a touchdown. yeah yeah that's um that's not good uh all right moving on sorry you were talking about digs you were giving me some praise or something yeah um this this was obviously a you know a very important game to digs coming back to buffalo who you know basically didn't want him anymore and sent him packing um but more importantly he is healthy it looks like he's back from the acl injury this is two weeks in a row over 100 yards.

37:41Jason Moore:The volume. And Drake May is playing great. Drake May is playing really, really well. Week one, I went decently hard in most of my leagues after Booty because I see where the value of the – if there is a clear-cut wide receiver one for the Patriots where target volume is predictable, there's value to be had there. And it seems like it's not Booty. It seems like now that Diggs is getting healthy, the guy that they paid a lot of money this offseason to come, you know, be a leader in this locker room. You know, he's going to still be on some waivers and needs to be, I think, paid a lot.

38:20Mike Wright:He's ramping up. And the Drake made confidence. It made sense to go after who you thought would be their best target. And we thought that maybe Stevon Diggs would be kind of stuck in the 8 to 10 yard range. It didn't happen.

38:32Jason Moore:Diggs has been such a funny roller coaster of an offseason. When we finished the UDK, when we launched the UDK, he was in there as, I forget if it was values or, you know, I think it was in the values. He was one of those guys. Just seemed like a perfect situation for him. But then the reports were, well, he might start on the pup, and so we took him out, and then it was like, okay, he's not going to be ready for the beginning of the season. Snip, snap, snip, snap. Now he is going to be ready for the season. now he's there but he's not really used it seems like now he is the wide receiver one and i mean

39:07Mike Wright:you can play him oh yeah i think you should 41 and 43 percent of the team's targets the last two weeks second highest receiver was hunter henry and what an impressive win by new england yeah i mean that's that's great you want that you want some like competition in that division

39:21Jason Moore:let's have some fun we had like vrabel i i have always had a man crush for vrabel i think he is a phenomenal head coach he is exactly what he is a he's a dan campbell he is someone that's going to lead them in he has a culture it's different what would he do if drew patsing was on his staff he would never have hired drew patsing but if he was on his staff he would take him up to a bridge okay and he would say drew come here yeah and and then he'd say i want to show you something and then he would throw him off the bridge yeah yeah and that's the kind of man he is yeah a man we respect he would he would take him to the train station right oh me yeah the train station uh we do not condone violence no no uh puka nakua machine like

40:07Mike Wright:every week rashid shaheed he was a dfs dart throw and he had like a 900 yard touchdown in this game kendrick born uh the born supremacy got it done

40:16Jason Moore:yeah i i was i was uh on the demarcus robinson so was i i was i thought he

40:21Mike Wright:would be the guy because of born's drops the week before yeah but it was uh he was born again okay nice aj barner jake ferguson theo johnson uh i think all three of those guys caught two touchdowns am i right that is correct that'll help yeah uh sam laporta and darren waller also caught touchdowns waller um waller looks like a top five guy next the rest of the season

40:44Jason Moore:he he appears that way i mean the fact that you you have him involved right off the bat especially involved around the red zone you need this is like uh an archetype of a player that they that the miami dolphins desperately needed and then when you combine that with looking at you know last year johnny smith uh was the tight end four and they lost tyree kill

41:12Mike Wright:so this is both necessary and perfect for the team if you have waller you you can lock him in uh shout out to the first 100 yard game for dalton kinkade in his career who is now the tight start of the week two he is the tight end two is he really yes oh man yes he is earning our praise tyler warren had another touchdown and then meowson taylor nine for 67 um 12 targets uh kyle threw in this stat since 2000 there are only uh two rookie tight ends ever to see 12 plus targets in a game within their first five games brock bowers mason taylor all right we'll take a break. We'll talk duds where we're more comfortable.

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42:55Jason Moore:Pooped in his big boy pants.

43:00Mike Wright:There was a famous Cardinal game in the Denny Green era on Monday Night Football. Chicago Bears. They are who we thought they are game where they kick the ball to Devin Hester, showing the reckless stupidity that defines our franchise. And that was at the time and for many years following the most embarrassing public defeat of our lives until yesterday. Yeah. We let the Titans off the hook. We let them off the hook. Man, the Titans. I mean, the victory speech by the Titans and Brian Callahan in the locker room. I didn't see it. He couldn't even keep he couldn't even go in there and be like you guys did this.

43:44He had to be like sometimes you need some things to go your way. He had to equivocate on his victory speech. Is that because the Titans

43:53Jason Moore:absolutely suck? Like they're 0-4. They look terrible in all phases of the game. Cam Ward does not look like he is ready yet. I mean he had moments in that game. Sure. Moments. The Calvin Ridley throw. Yes, the Calvin Ridley throw. He had a moment. But they won the game. They won the game. That is so embarrassing.

44:13Mike Wright:You don't often win by a fumbled pick. But, look, the Cardinals season is unequivocally over. They don't play a sub-500 team for a long time. They're going to get their anuses handed to them in Indianapolis next week.

44:28Jason Moore:Oh, yeah. And then they're going to proceed to have that happen over and over again until we fire the guys. So if you want to fire him now and give our offense some hope for fantasy, that's my position. I'm also thinking through the lens of, hey, what if we had a normal-ish middle-of-the-road offense where Marvin Harrison is targeted? He was dominating. Marvin Harrison was dominating. I don't think he got targeted for 26 consecutive plays. He finished at a 17 % target share, which is very low. It's the lowest of the season in a game in which he had, what, 70-plus receiving yards and was – Well, you've got to keep in mind we had a lead.

45:01So once you have a lead – Oh, that's when you stop playing. stop because leads are permanent leads are once you get it it's locked all right i'm still mad

45:11Mike Wright:all right duds of the week justin herbert ew 166 and one he's been real bad for fantasy since the

45:18Jason Moore:week one explosion they had some really really unfortunate turnovers in this game honestly that the score of this game 10 to 27 seems like they got just beat up but they were they were up 10 nothing and it was a close game for many for the majority of it but everything went wrong when it like as soon as you needed something to happen uh something went wrong for them and they they have

45:46Mike Wright:now they they lost to the giants and now they lost again to the commanders justin herbert if you throw out week one which was his uh super performance right the season pace so four games played since then his pace is 3 ,800 yards and 21 touchdowns yeah with 17 interceptions the

46:02Jason Moore:touchdowns are the big issue here if you look at what the chargers are scoring offensively 10 points this week 18 points the week prior 23 points a week prior 20 points a week like they're just they aren't they aren't scoring enough to have as good enough fantasy relevance as you want and it's genuinely I think it's the offensive line like at the very beginning of the year it looked like how do you stop this offense and now with the injuries they've had yeah it's like you see it every play i know how to stop the offense get three guys in justin herbert's face as soon

46:35Mike Wright:as the ball gets there no you're right and uh despite the victory drake may was actually really

46:39Jason Moore:bad for fantasy did not throw a touchdown pass he looked good he played well but yeah if touchdowns yeah 12 fancy points when ramondre has the two rushing touchdowns it was kind of like uh dak Prescott week one he dominated the game yeah looked awesome it was the quarterback 29 yeah like

46:56Mike Wright:dude it was all Javante touchdowns uh we also had the first dud of the season and it was a big one for James Cook only 4.9 fancy points so he's in our duds list Alvin Kamara it seemed like he was constantly like being targeted or handed the football but then like this one was not really true because he went out hurt I don't know if you saw this he limped off the field at one point it came back the snap counts for Kendra Miller 13 16 then 27 and 32 now 41 he had more carries in

47:26Jason Moore:this game than Alvin Kamara did and he's he seems like on the rushing attack not not in the passing game but in the rushing attack it seems like it's it's a scary proposition that it could be a 50-50 split we're too early to definitively say that they could trade Kamara still don't know what

47:42Mike Wright:that I know I know but it's I mean the rumors are out there but from a lot of teams you the contract is worth it if you have a major injury think about playoff bound teams too if somebody goes down yeah you know um god forbid saquon or somebody they'll spend the money to try to repeat chase brown a uh this might as well be called the chase brown duds of the week section he has not finished inside the top 24 he is one of the worst picks in fantasy part of it is his fault part of it is not his fault part of it is the offensive line part of it is jake brownie who probably will

48:15Jason Moore:not start another game for that team i think jake browning starts next week um well the team has at

48:21Mike Wright:least come out and said that they are looking hard at it yeah the turnovers have been outrageous

48:25Jason Moore:since 2014 there have been 246 running backs who've seen 80 plus touches through the first five weeks of the season 246 times that's a lot of that's a lot of sample chase brown in total yards from scrimmage ranks 246th that's the least you've ever done out of that many out of anyone who's touched the ball that much he's the least he's the least if i touched a lot if i had touched it 80 times i would have been the least correct you would have been 246th but instead

48:57Mike Wright:is chase brown who's 246th this one was crazy to me and um woody marks i mean this was a huge whiff I had two major whiffs on the week. Woody Marks was one of them. Jacoby Myers was the other one. Woody Marks, seven for 24. He had a big run called back. He had 39 % of the snaps. This game, you look at the snaps and you say, okay, he had more snaps than Nick Chubb. That matters to me. But then you see Damian Pierce got snaps. 100 % of the Damian Pierce snaps came when they were up like 40-3. So I don't care about those. They have a bye week, though. and then you it's a tough start now because nick chubb had the touchdown run and they

49:38Jason Moore:gave nick chubb the first drive or two and it's just it's wild to me to come off of a game where you get 22 opportunities 17 rushing uh attempts have the coach say we're excited to get him the ball more and then come in the next week and you give him seven rushing attempts it made no sense to me and and you can say oh it was a blowout but it was a blowout the week prior they won 26 to

50:00Mike Wright:nothing no you're right and and the other part of this game was like there wasn't a check down situation like cj stroud threw four touchdowns he didn't need to check the ball down because the pass rush was non-existent from this baltimore defense that felt like they had seven guys out there so he didn't get any catches um it was really not great i mean it was just a process i thought the process was right and it didn't work out at all so it's it's a whiff travion henderson six for 24 can't play him right now he's gonna keep hurting people with this with

50:30Jason Moore:this antonio gibson injury yeah there's always a reason to play there's always a reason to play him like genuinely next week he might be a good play genuinely against the saints without gibson

50:41Mike Wright:he might be a good play but so far he has not yet been no that's it's it's uh it's not great uh derrick henry 15 for 33 and a touchdown saved himself with the touchdown but he has he has not

50:54Jason Moore:looked great and without Lamar you know I was shocked he was in the game for that touchdown because that was a garbage time touchdown I was hopeful that Derrick Henry would really dominate this you know he was running back 24 so so far on the week but man week one 169 yards and two touchdowns looked unstoppable had a couple more big plays the next week even though he had fumbles that kind of took away from it but if you look from the last month after that week one just like we were doing with Herbert. He is on pace for 195 attempts and 629 rushing yards.

51:30Mike Wright:Well, and you've got an injury for a little while here. They're one in four? Yeah. What is Derrick Henry good at? Scoring lots of fantasy points when they win. Yeah. When they don't win, Derrick Henry. It's the same with Tennessee. When they don't win, you don't win. That's kind of the way it goes. You better hope for snow in Vermont.

51:48Jason Moore:They've got the Rams this week, then a bye week. So we don't know if Lamar's going to play, but obviously if they don't play Lamar this week, they get –

51:56Mike Wright:If you could trade – here's the trade. You take Derrick Henry and you throw somebody half decent with him and you try to get Jacobs because you'd skip the bye week. Oh, I would do that in a heart. I mean, I think that you could probably – I don't think you'll get that done. No, you could get it done if you put the right player in there. You've got to give more than Derrick Henry. If somebody sees that Derrick Henry name and then you can throw him a wide receiver that's performing pretty well. I don't know. That's what I would try to do because this is the time of year with the bye weeks too. When you make trades of major names for major names, if you can skip a bye week, it makes a big difference.

52:27Mike Wright:That's a big deal. Quinton Johnston had his first dud of the season. It wasn't great for him. It wasn't great for Keenan Allen. We did see your start of the week, Ladd McConkie, score a touchdown. He also, I don't know if you saw this play, Jason, in your – He scored two touchdowns. Yeah, I was going to say they called his return touchdown back. That was the second touchdown. Made a bunch of great moves. He was awesome. He hurdled the guy at the end. He did, and it was an embarrassing hurdle for that person. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was a kicker that stood like three yards from the end zone and then got cooked.

53:01Mike Wright:A.J. Brown, I mean, he's been the wide receiver 46 or worse in four or five weeks. I offered you D-ball for him last week. That would have really locked up your victory.

53:12Jason Moore:Yeah, or if he was one yard faster on a run, he would be like the wide receiver 15.

53:19Mike Wright:Is that what you're going to hold on to for A.J. Brown moving forward? Yeah.

53:22Jason Moore:No, I, you know, A.J. Brown has had stretches. Yips and butts, candy and nuts. Yeah, I mean, you look back at, remember 2023, where the first half of the season, the first nine weeks, he was, he had like the NFL record for most 135-yard games in a row was dominant. And then the end of the season, he was on pace for nothing. You know, he was like 800-yard pace and was terrible. This happens sometimes on this team, but I still think A.J. Brown is someone you're not going to move on from.

53:56Mike Wright:So don't send that offer back over. You can send it. Here's a red alert situation at this point. Jamison Williams, one target, one catch, nine yards. The worry when we talked about Jamison for the week was that they might not need him to win this game. Well, they clearly won it without him because he is not doing well. 2.2 receptions a game, 45 receiving yards a game. He's on a ton of rosters. I believed in him going into the season. Right now, I'm sure he'll show up on a cut list for waiver day.

54:32Jason Moore:Yeah, it's really tough. You want him. He is a good wide receiver on a great offense, and that's usually a recipe for success. but the way that he is utilized, he has one game in his career with more than five receptions. And so we're pretty far into a career for that to be the case. In the studs section, we're talking about old man Stefan Diggs with 10 catches. We're talking about Kendrick Bourne with 10 catches. It's like we got one game with six catches in his career and nothing more than that. It's scary. from a consistency.

55:10Mike Wright:You're just waiting on a big play and it's not a good place to be. A.J. Brown is the wide receiver 39 right now. Jamison Williams is the wide receiver 43 right now. Yeah. So if you play, I mean, A.J. Brown, Jamison Williams, that could have been your combo.

55:23Jason Moore:I mean, I've got A.J. Brown. I've started him every single week in the League of Record. And it has been a not fun process.

55:29Mike Wright:Not fun. That's a good way to describe Chris Godwin right now. Three for 26 in a game that Ibuka dominated. Godwin, this was the worry. People wanted to start him because of the name you know he's coming off a major injury not the same dude

55:41Jason Moore:yeah when you you can't play him no we I mean when you come back from an injury it's it's often hard look at look at Stephon Diggs Stephon Diggs was ready to start the season but not really right it took some time for him to work himself back in you know last week uh Chris Godwin had 10 targets and ended up with three for 26 he's not is you know he's not uh the he's not the Chris

56:05Mike Wright:godwin of old right now no brock bowers no michael mayor geno smith still couldn't do anything with

56:12Jason Moore:his receiving gino smith has been probably to me to my eyeballs like the biggest disappointment he's looked horrible he's looked awful and he and he didn't he didn't until all of a sudden this year

56:24Mike Wright:he goes to the raiders and it's like seattle seahawks look so smart making the swap looking great uh jacoby myers four for 32 in a game where i thought like i mentioned this i don't know if you saw Jay his seven plus reception line was minus 103 on the sports books he ends up with six targets four for 32 managed to survive my prize pick projection for the Friday by getting over three and a half but it was gross I thought he'd be a great start this week the target share is non-existent Trey Tucker got a bunch of targets again this team is pretty darn bad they're a really really bad team no brock bowers right now the targeting of ashton jenty is encouraging because the offensive line is so beat up jenty was heavily involved in the receiving game again this week yeah he had seven targets i was gonna say 42 through the air 14 uh seven

57:19Jason Moore:targets yeah that that's that's outrageous well it's great and it's the first time we've seen it this season where he's like hyper targeted in the run game and i think it was in game in the passing game and he was you know this probably was due to the fact that they were missing their left tackle

57:33Mike Wright:yeah and no brock bowers trey mcbride uh where are you with mcbride it's actually been uh it's been rough like trey mcbride on the season still the tight end five but you've had i would say three games that you were just kind of bummed out a little disappointed he's only got one receiving touchdown he's still he's still that guy he's yeah i mean he's still the guy he's still the

57:53Jason Moore:number one target in this offense the offense is just so high terrible honestly you look at the the highest drafted tight ends, right? Brock Bowers has crushed people. Trey McBride has not returned value there. George Kittle looked like he was going to smash it but got injured. Right. So those high tight end selections have not worked out so far.

58:13Mike Wright:Yeah, no, that's a good point.

58:14Jason Moore:In our chopped leagues, the Brock Bowers manager has been chopped twice, and the Trey McBride manager this week is looking like he's going to get chopped. And what's his name? Mike the fantasy hit man right

58:28Mike Wright:so you were last week

58:31Jason Moore:the early tight end is not working out so far

58:34Mike Wright:how about Zach Ertz not working out

58:35Jason Moore:oh that's unfortunate for me one target zero receptions

58:41Mike Wright:a full goose Jawan Johnson two for 17

58:45Jason Moore:he got injured right he was limited or something

58:49Mike Wright:he was questionable coming into the game he played but I mean the Jawan Johnson experience is slowing down because we've had the basically 3 for 28, 2 for 17. So, you know, ew. Hunter Henry did. He was second on the team in receiving yards, but just 2 for 46 in this game. Drake made it and throw a passing touchdown. Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely did nothing with Cooper Rush, and that was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL. We did it. We got through it. Any news on Cardinals firing people?

59:34Jason Moore:I have not seen. It would make me feel better. I've not seen any of the Bidwell step aside yet. That's not going to happen.

59:42Mike Wright:They own the team.

59:43Jason Moore:Yeah, but just step aside.

59:46Mike Wright:You thinking about picking a new team?

59:48Jason Moore:I'm thinking about it every minute. Or giving up football, maybe? No, I love football. Yeah? You were so excited to have the Cardinals as a team you could care about this year. I've said so many times going into the season, like, it's been so long since I thought we had a chance to root and care about home games, about the home team. And, no, we don't. We don't. Grosser performance. Cardinals this week.

1:00:15Mike Wright:Josh's trade offer.

1:00:18Jason Moore:this was a historically epically bad trade offer so i'm gonna take the i just improved it that was you just sent me another one oh josh getting the screen time today oh man let's go ahead and it is such a josh trade offer man i know um all right let's take a look and anything you offer them that you get made fun of that it's like this terrible offer but not it's never he's out there Kyle Pitts for a third was a terrible offer.

1:00:48Mike Wright:Kyle Pitts for a third? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the tight end position is pretty rough. We just talked about it. He upped it. He included Torrey Horton and upped it to a four. So I'm going to hit the outro. Yeah. That is going to do it for this morning's show. We've got a waiver wire episode tomorrow. Big names to get into. Good luck in your Monday night football game unless your name is Travis Etienne or Travis Hunter. All the Travises. Go Travis!

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