Fantasy Football - Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injury Depression, Monday Punday - Podcast for 10/13

10:25Jason Moore:Rico Belcowdle.

10:27Mike Wright:Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Yay, McBride. TD Roa McMillan. Mm-hmm. Kendrick Bourne, Supremacy. Oh, JS Wynn? Yeah. We had some bad ones. I'll start. Emeka Egg Big Boon.

10:44Jason Moore:Quinshawn Dudkins. Quinshart Judkins? Twilet Tag of Oiloa. I love that one. Matthew Stafford. Kenneth Walker the Turd. Stefan Diggs, My Grave. Cortland, nothing. and Troy Stanklin. Wait.

11:05Andy Holloway:Oh, Puke Nakua. Puke Nakua. I was like, Puke Nakua? I don't even... Puke. Puke. Yeah. Yeah.

11:15Jason Moore:Oh, man. Now, here's the thing for everybody.

11:17Andy Holloway:You know, I had a great fantasy week. Yeah, no. If you, honestly, if you look at your team and you had a great week this week, feel it. Take that in. Let it be a positive light because there are so many that had that one. Remember that it was skill. Right, right, right, right.

11:36Mike Wright:It was skill that got you the dub. It was bad luck that got you the yell. Always true.

11:41Andy Holloway:Sometimes you got to remember, because you have weeks like this, remember that you have good weeks. I told you guys I thought I'd make the playoffs last week.

11:49Jason Moore:Oh, you were. No, you said I'm making the playoffs. Yeah, I really thought I would set up. And then halfway through the games yesterday, you sold.

11:56Mike Wright:I told him to sell my players. I mean, Marvin Harrison went out with a concussion mid-game. Emeka Egbuka went out mid-game. I knew it was over, and I got out. So let's talk news.

12:10Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

12:17Mike Wright:We found out that the Cowboys had placed Miles Sanders on season-ending IR.

12:22Andy Holloway:Yeah, that escalated quick.

12:23Mike Wright:Just remember your one twisted ankle from Jaden Blue being a meaningful fantasy contributor. Yeah, no, Jaden Blue should be on rosters. And a younger, talented speedster, so pay attention to that.

12:33Jason Moore:What's the status of Phil Maffa? I think he's still on IR. He should be eligible to return soon. Did they even keep him on the roster?

12:40Mike Wright:They moved him to IR, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, Jaden Blue, he'll be in the waiver wire show. Kyla Murray dealing with a midfoot sprain. Uncertain for week seven against the Packers. They have a week eight bye, so I would expect him to miss one more week.

12:57Andy Holloway:Did you see the – I don't have the true stat in front of me because Jacoby, Beef, Brisket, Brissette threw for 320-2. Yeah, it had been like – It was like the last time Kyler Murray threw for 302 has been like 1 ,000 plus days or something.

13:14Mike Wright:Yeah. It's been weird because I think there's been three times Kyler's missed games where the backup came in and looked really good for like one game. And then it all fell apart. Dobbs. Yeah, Joshua Dobbs was one of them for sure. But with the week 8 bye, Kyler might not be back. Who knows if Marvin Harrison will be back right away because he had a concussion in the game in his return to Indianapolis.

13:38Jason Moore:Cardinals offense got good as soon as you got rid of Kyler and Marv. Yeah, they were productive. I mean, it was like Zay Jones looked great.

13:45Mike Wright:All of a sudden these wide receivers. Yeah, Dork scored and Trey McBride got into the end zone and he should have scored at the end. I thought he was held on that play.

13:53Andy Holloway:Oh, yeah, he definitely was.

13:54Mike Wright:Anthony Richardson, this was crazy. He was using a – I can't believe it's true because it's a terrible injury. Yeah, I would have not let them – It seemed made up. Yeah, you wouldn't have let them tell.

14:05Andy Holloway:I would have gone with the narrative that the team is just so done with me that I'm been inactive.

14:11Jason Moore:Or at least like I got into a big fight. Someone swung a helmet at me.

14:15Mike Wright:He basically had an accident with a resistance band, and it fractured his eye. Oh, man. I didn't know it was that bad. It's an orbital eye fracture. Right. And he missed the game. And then they also had, who was it, Cam Ward? No, it was not Cam Ward. Chedavious Ward? Chedavious Ward. Yeah, in warm-ups? They have the video of it. In warm-ups, he's just running kind of like coverage out to the outside, and they're tied in. came onto the field he ran into him and he got a concussion yeah and he got knocked out of the game they had two players knocked out of the game in warm-ups uh darnell mooney is out for tonight colson loveland questionable dalton kincaid questionable uh for the doubleheader and then debo samuel they said they'd take it down to the yeah he's game time talked about him on sunday

15:03Andy Holloway:live uh he's listed as questionable but the the follow-up on that was a true game time decision so it was i expect him to play i think but i but you better have an option yeah i added luke

15:14Mike Wright:mccaffrey yeah there you go because you're not gonna have terry mclaurin well that was back when i had debo and when i started the games yesterday yeah of course he's not on my team i don't care anymore um but the other one would be jaylen lane you could decide between luke mccaffrey jaylen lane you could pick up cole comet as an emergency play i think cole comet is not bad especially if loveland doesn't play yeah if you had to flex somebody over debo yeah if you got word about it uh rashi rice eligible to return from suspension this week against the raiders oh man and they they just beat the they just beat the lions oh the chiefs yeah guess

15:47Andy Holloway:guess who's back yeah yeah and mahomes is he's he's a really looks great he's a good football

15:52Mike Wright:player mecca abuka left early with a hamstring injury didn't return he's gonna have an mri today initial reports were that they don't suspect it to be as bad as mike evans hamstring strain but But we don't really know.

16:05Jason Moore:Can we just talk about how good Baker is? Just serious. Laser Mayfield.

16:13Mike Wright:He's the MVP right now.

16:15Jason Moore:I mean, for sure. If voting was today and the season was over, he would be the MVP. He's doing it all. It's like he just keeps losing one more piece at a time. And it's like, well, okay. Dog don't care. He can't handle that much. And it's just like, yes, he can. He's powering up still.

16:33Mike Wright:I love him so much.

16:35Andy Holloway:Yeah.

16:37Mike Wright:It'll be a big part of the waiver show is looking at options on that team. I traded Debo mid-morning and had to fill in an emergency flex, which I did with Tess Johnson. Oh, my gosh. Which was my highest scoring player.

16:53Andy Holloway:Hey, that was a great catch.

16:55Mike Wright:Yeah, it was a great catch.

16:56Andy Holloway:Like I was a fingertip layup. Yeah, that was a good catch. It was a good one.

16:59Mike Wright:But I think it was somebody else caught a touchdown there. Tyler Johnson? Who was it?

17:05Jason Moore:Yeah, it was the other Johnson.

17:09Mike Wright:Caleb Johnson. Yeah.

17:10Jason Moore:Caleb Johnson, maybe? No. Caleb Johnson is the stealer. Cam. Madison. I'm doing great. It's one of those weeks, man. It's Cameron Johnson with a K.

17:19Mike Wright:Cameron with a K. Yeah. Did you see the story from Tez Johnson, by the way? His little. Yeah. It was so funny.

17:26Andy Holloway:The MVP chance started.

17:28Mike Wright:Because he made a great play. He made a great play. They start chanting MVP. He goes up, and the way he says it is just so innocent and funny as a little rookie. And he goes up to Sterling Shepard. He goes, they're chanting MVP. He's like, I ain't done nothing this year. And he goes, it's for Baker, man. And he goes, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Puka Nakua, ankle sprain. It's likely to miss. He's going to miss some time. There was a report this morning. The probable liar, Sean McVay, came out and said he's day to day.

17:56Andy Holloway:It was almost identical to CeeDee Lamb. yeah yeah you see this all the time he he tried to get back up try and he's like i'm gonna walk it off nope goes down halftime comes back he's doing some warm-ups on the side thinks he's you're just like no you're done man yeah it'll probably be a couple i bet it'll be three weeks well they

18:18Mike Wright:have a buy in week eight so definitely that helps adds up right i mean six seven then the buy six oh my gosh you both did that oh man it's for the youths yeah wow uh garrett wilson the fact you simultaneously have the problem uh garrett wilson suffered a knee injury in sunday's game in london that didn't help and a brain injury from having to be a part of that offense yeah marvin harrison jr left early with a concussion he had a couple catches hit his head on the ground it was pretty obvious that he was going to be hurt in that one john harbaugh expects lamar jackson to return after the bye. They need him.

18:57Andy Holloway:Yeah.

18:58Mike Wright:We lost on Tavian Wicks to an ankle injury. Gasicki this week. Najoku with a knee injury. That one's kind of big because Harold Fannin had, I mean, there was 48 pass attempts in that game by Dylan Gabriel, and I think only three went over 10 yards. But Harold Fannin, like, PPR that game. Are you pulling up his stat line, Jay?

19:16Jason Moore:No, I was just surprised you said 48 because I thought it was more. It was. He had 52 passing attempts.

19:22Mike Wright:Okay. Maybe 48 of them went to Harold Fannin based on those numbers.

19:25Andy Holloway:Yeah, Fannin, he will be an option. But, man, those injuries that were, like, Najoku got blasted. He had two different injuries. Gabriel is throwing hospital balls. And we'll see how long that he can keep doing that before players are like, no, dude, I'm not going to get a head injury for you. Yeah. Calvin Ridley got hurt too. Judy had one where he's running a post right into the safety. And Gabriel's like, sure, here you go. Yeah, go catch this. And Judy's like, no, I'm not doing that. And I don't blame him. You cannot throw those.

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22:31Mike Wright:Well, we did have some impressive performances this week. Let's talk about them.

22:37Jason Moore:This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins, presented by Lowe's.

22:44Mike Wright:Well, the number one passer and running back for the Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, came in at number one.

22:51Jason Moore:Goodness gracious me. He is the number one quarterback on the season. Do you guys realize that? I did not. But it makes sense after.

22:59Mike Wright:Number one in points per game?

23:02Jason Moore:I'm just on the course of the season total points. I don't know if it's per game or not.

23:08Mike Wright:Okay. I'll look it up. He's played so well. Yeah.

23:12Andy Holloway:And held that team together. With Rice back. Man.

23:17Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, they're going to be great.

23:19Andy Holloway:The faithful that stayed true to Mahomes. I do not count myself as one. I was like, I'm done with this.

23:25Mike Wright:He is number one in points per game. Lamar Jackson, number two. Josh Allen, number three. So after that performance, he's at 31.3 points per game. Wow. uh drake may was number two on the week 18 for 26 for 261 and three two of those went to kasha on booty yep which is pretty uh it's pretty cool i don't know if you saw his interview either but just talking about how he had to like he was a completely different person three four years ago had to change everything about his life and now he's turning it around becoming a really valuable

23:56Andy Holloway:player he was yeah if you don't know the story of of booty he was a highly recruited player he was like gonna be at lsu he was gonna be like our next big thing and then things just kind of fell apart for him was a really late draft pick and so it's it's cool to see jackson dart 23.6 fancy points

24:20Mike Wright:daniel jones is number four dak was number five dak staying in the top five uh they did lose against Carolina because they don't have a defense.

24:28Jason Moore:Man, my favorite part of football this year is Dallas' defense. It's delightful. Any team they play can score 30. It's just great. That was Bryce Young on the other side. Well, you can't stop Carolina with Rico. Yeah. Like Chuba's in trouble. Chuba's in big trouble. It's a real issue because you can't just bench Rico. But also, Chuba was doing great and is paid to be their main starter. So it's like, will this turn into a 50-50 split?

25:04Mike Wright:If Chuba's lucky. You think? I do.

25:07Jason Moore:Yeah.

25:08Mike Wright:As long as the production is what it is right now. I mean, he is running like a bat out of hell. I mean, he is – his tail's on fire.

25:17Andy Holloway:He had – I love Rico. Yeah, you do.

25:20Mike Wright:And this is – you can victory lap all you want.

25:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, you deserve this. You deserve it. It feels so much fun and so good watching it happen. No, let me help you for a second. Oh, please. Okay.

25:31Mike Wright:These are two games where I made the joke he won't get to 200 yards. Which he didn't. I said he'll only get to 180 on the show, and that's what he got to. Yeah. 180 and 200 is insane. But if you look at all his starts, if you accumulate his starts between Dallas and now, and I think it's the last eight or ten of them, and you run him towards the season, he's on pace for 2 ,000 yards rushing.

25:51Jason Moore:I have the lines here from his last nine starts. This was a tweet from Brett Whitefield. 19 for 86, 22 for 112, 18 for 131, 25 for 149, 13 for 23. Bad game. 23 for 104, 22 for 72, 23 for 206, and 20 for 183. He's just dominating.

26:23Andy Holloway:The Javante being back, great story. Feels good. But the fact that no one saw what Rico did at the end of last season, talking to the NFL, like Dallas, I don't know what the negotiations were, but clearly they didn't want him back enough. He had to go to Carolina on like a one-year, I don't know, he's making nothing there. It was – Well, number one – Man, Rico's got to feel 10 feet tall right now.

26:53Mike Wright:Number one on the week for the second consecutive week. Cam Scadaboo at number two. Josh Jacobs at number three. Yeah, my man. This is a trade-for candidate. Yeah, my man. Devon A. Chan at number four. And Jonathan Taylor at number five. Jacobs had two rushing touchdowns, five for 57 through the air. We had talked about Cincinnati, right? And you knew Jacobs was set up. Jonathan Taylor did his thing. per usual and devon achan just yeah shining star in a really in a toilet it's like a golden nugget

27:28Jason Moore:in a toilet it's like do you want you go in and get it do you i think you need to go get it it's gold yeah somebody just like number two in there though you can wash your hands of course

27:37Mike Wright:they did that's what they do in my big daniel that went number two in that toilet yeah so it's

27:41Andy Holloway:a little tiny turd hey that team is in so much trouble because it's it's too much fun uh who has more rushing yards on the year you you can do whatever you want mike rico dowdle oh my gosh

27:54Mike Wright:or saquon barkley it has to i mean this has to be yeah because yeah saquon is not on pace for a

28:01Andy Holloway:thousand yards right now so saquon is at 325 yards in six full starts rico has started twice he has 472 rushing yards.

28:10Mike Wright:Kamani Vidal, 18 for 124. And looked good. Which is what he looked the week before. That's why I liked Vidal. I thought what I saw in the field.

28:20Jason Moore:You said you liked him better than Haskins despite the fact that he wasn't starting before the injury happened to Amari and Hampton.

28:27Mike Wright:You had reports going into the morning. That said big beat writers out there well first they said Bam Knight was the starter.

28:34Andy Holloway:Which Bam Knight did play more

28:36Mike Wright:he played he played over demarcato yeah but it wasn't like over michael carter well he i think i'll look that up i think he had more touches and stuff uh i don't think so but you can you can look at that but kamani vidal right before the game it's like hassan haskins will be the lead back

28:52Andy Holloway:the feature back no it was vidal yeah they got us good christian mcafree got his first rushing

28:58Mike Wright:touchdown still just 17 for 54 on the ground they cannot run block right now they cannot okay so

29:03Andy Holloway:So Michael Carter, nine carries, five targets. Bam Knight, 11 carries, two targets.

29:11Mike Wright:Okay. He got hurt, though. Carter? No, no, no. Bam Knight got hurt.

29:16Andy Holloway:Yeah, I think that report actually ended up being correct. He did score the touchdown. But it didn't really. Oh, man, he's running back 12 right now?

29:24Mike Wright:Well, and Carter was literally like the first drive he was out there. So it was a little confusing. Yes. Kyron got back into the end zone like he always does Ashton Gentry Your trade for candidate So much work 23 for 75 and 1 They managed to beat the Titans I mean the Titans are

29:48Jason Moore:Awful Do the Titans play the Jets this year? Does that game exist?

29:53Andy Holloway:I need to look at the schedule But Rebs Rich Rebar tweeted this out, pointed it out to us. Next week, as of right now, the New York Jets and the Cleveland Browns are favored. What? To win. To win their game.

30:13Mike Wright:Their actual... So one of them plays the Titans. What's the schedule for those two teams?

30:20Jason Moore:Carolina, the Jets play Carolina. At home then. At home. Of course. And the Browns play the Dolphins.

30:27Andy Holloway:Neither of those teams is winning. I'm just telling you what it opened at

30:32Mike Wright:I mean that's if they played each other you know they have a mute button on a remote they need one that also turns the screen off they do I want the power on but I want it blacked out and muted symbolically watching nothing versus that game alright top five wide receivers of the week George Pickens continues his absolute uh money-making scheme i mean he is he is going to get 100 million dollars

31:03Jason Moore:nine the injury 168 and a touchdown on only 11 targets and still still doing what he always does with drawing deep pass interference yardage as well that doesn't show up here that is the most

31:17Mike Wright:like george pickens can thank cd lamb's ankle yes for 100 million dollars yes well i mean the fact

31:25Andy Holloway:that he has balled out he he had to go do it but the but the way dax playing and being the only

31:31Mike Wright:target it's awesome the timing he'll still be good when cd returns it's just you won't be we won't be talking about him as number one every week jsn who boy do we believe now i mean i think

31:42Jason Moore:we've believed for a while but um he is a in a true alpha and i just love how he can do it in all parts of the field you know it's he gets his deep shots too he reminds me a lot of cd lamb in the sense that they they move him around they'll play him in the slot they'll play him outside he does short area stuff and and then he goes across the field deep down you know he's he's doing everything um and also sam darnold is i think playing good football he's not going away this is darnold is young enough and has a good contract here so there's stability for the Seahawks here.

32:21Andy Holloway:You realize JSN was 54 % of the targets? Oh, delightful.

32:29Mike Wright:Yeah, I mean, he's just... There was a point... Was that the game? Yeah, there was a point in that game, I think, that Darnold had 117 passing yards and JSN had 117 receiving yards. Yeah, it makes sense. They were completely the only receptions of the game.

32:45Jason Moore:Why go to other people if it works? You know, we've said this forever, But, like, if you have a CeeDee Lamb or if you've got a Justin Jefferson, like, just throw it to him. It works every play. Just keep doing it.

32:58Mike Wright:That's what they did with Cooper Cup in Los Angeles. Matthew Stafford knows that lesson better than anybody. Oh, for sure. Calvin, Cooper Cup, Puka. Yeah. We'll see how long that injury is. Devontae Adams is going to get a lot of work. Kayshawn, booty, two touchdowns, five for 93. three that's a confusing receiving room because the mario douglas caught a long touchdown pass

33:22Andy Holloway:in this game digs disappeared douglas had another one that got called back right yeah he did digs

33:28Mike Wright:digs appeared disappeared i don't know and then booty's back maybe hunter henry didn't get involved

33:35Jason Moore:like drake may is playing great football we've seen it on film this is what you know talking talking about him as the start of the week this last week was he he played so good in buffalo despite having not a great fantasy output. The fantasy output should come, and it did this week. But the issue is he's, you know, to start the year, it's like, oh, okay, so it looks like Booty is the guy, is the leading, you know, target. You know, he's going to have the target share. But then it was Douglas, and then it was Diggs, and maybe it's Hunter Henry. I think what it is is it's whoever's going to be open.

34:09Andy Holloway:Yeah, it's the Buffalo Bills. He's going to spread the ball.

34:11Jason Moore:Exactly, the Buffalo Bills. Like, Josh Allen could be great. Josh Allen could throw for a ton, and you're not sure that you want to start anybody because if Coleman doesn't get a touchdown, it's bad. And I think that's what we're going to have here in New England, which is you can start them and you can get big games, but there's absolutely no predictability to who the number one guy is.

34:34Mike Wright:Jamar Chase, 12 targets, 10 for 94 and a touchdown. That touchdown was redonkulous. It was.

34:40Andy Holloway:I mean, that is, you got to have hope and optimism. Joe Flacco, I thought, played pretty well. I mean, they. That touchdown was very. Yes. Yes, it was. It was Jamar Jason.

34:56Jason Moore:Give me that. Yeah, there were two defenders. One that was pretty much just wrestling him mid reception. And with one arm, his left arm, not even his hand, kind of his arm, that was facing towards the ball just squeezed it and caught it. Give me that. Give me that.

35:15Andy Holloway:I mean – He's so good. One week, but I would be – it's nice to have at least some hope after what we've been experiencing with Jake Browning.

35:27Mike Wright:Ladd McConkie with no huge was very good. Seven for 101, the big play if you watch the very end of the game. stopped on a dime passed his defender did you watch Hassan Haskins on that play by chance? if you go back and watch that play well he was in the he was pass blocking and then he stayed with the play and started sprinting the whole field ends up out in front of Vlad McConkie or just behind him to cut off the guy it was just an impressive play an effort for them

36:01Andy Holloway:and with that we're going to have

36:04Mike Wright:to have a keen and allen conversation yeah keenan was uh that's three weeks in a row it was real bad

36:11Jason Moore:did he do the old man thing maybe where maybe you get off really to a hot start because you're a

36:17Andy Holloway:great football player and then you run out of steam it's not too much different in terms of of total well i mean two bad yardage games in there but he caught a touchdown in the first three weeks and then he's been five for 37 five for 58 four for 27 like damaging your your starting

36:37Mike Wright:roster there were a few sigh of relief oh yeah players two of them in particular uh maybe maybe three uh brian thomas jr eight for 90 and a touchdown had one had one taken off the board i've been telling people please just trade for him he's too good so this is nice uh the other one, Jamison Williams. Yeah. Six for 66 and a touchdown. It was nice to see that happen.

37:02Jason Moore:Oh, my God, that beast.

37:03Mike Wright:Thank you, Jason. You're welcome. Also, Metcalf, four for 95 and another touchdown. He should have had a bomb. I didn't see that play. Oh, dude.

37:14Jason Moore:He torches his guy. Two of them. He's behind the defense. Bad pass? I mean, five, six, seven yards under thrown. And it was to him. It was like Roger saw it.

37:24Mike Wright:He only caught four passes on nine targets you love the nine targets he scored in four straight he's been top 10 two straight weeks

37:30Andy Holloway:yeah maybe working maybe we're turning a corner he gets the bangles that's going to be a great start uh i'm going to start the week that uh oh where are you yeah yeah dibs um but yeah it was i mean just rot two years rogers two years ago hits that pass no problem it was it felt real bad what it

37:49Mike Wright:was kind of a weird week uh it was cool that tett mcmillan scored but he only caught three passes for 29 yards in a game that they won with 30 points. Rico. Yeah. I mean, we don't need to throw. It was, uh, yeah, you're right. So five targets, three for 29 and two, uh, it was inevitable. Right. And then Dallas got, it was the number one tight end, Trey McBride, Tyler Warren, Sam Laporta, Michael Mayer.

38:10Jason Moore:This, this felt like a, uh, a better week for tight ends. Cause the, the top of this list are the guys that you want that you expect, like Tyler Warren, Trey McBride, Laporta. Like, yeah, good. Let the good tight ends go do something and be great. I think Tyler Warren sticks out the most to me from this list. He has been really dominant. He's been more dominant than, like right now, he's the tight end two on the season, I believe behind Dallas Goddard, which we should talk about, even though I don't know what to do with them.

38:41Mike Wright:It's been long enough now for Goddard's involvement. I mean, you're talking, you're not just talking about the occasional touchdown. You're talking about, Well, sort of. 11 targets, 9 targets the past two weeks.

38:52Andy Holloway:But 33 yards, 37 yards, 19 yards, 110.

38:57Jason Moore:What if I told you that... With touchdowns and all of those. I don't know. We're how many weeks in here? Six weeks in? Yep. He has his career high in touchdowns.

39:05Mike Wright:No, and he already did before this week. I mean, we mentioned that last week. He had five, and that was the most he's ever scored. I don't understand why we can't be in on that if we were trying to hang on to, like i don't know juwan johnson and some of these other tight ends like it's it's over for like two out of three weeks you're number one you just you need a tight end man yeah we need tight ends let's you say don't chase it but he's scoring a lot of touchdowns but to get back to tyler warren

39:32Jason Moore:tyler warren very well might finish this season as the number one target for this team ahead of pitman ahead of downs you know he had a 30 target share in this game the targets have tightened up

39:45Andy Holloway:the last couple weeks of it's really uh i saw a tweet about it where it's like downs warren and pitman are all within one target or so of each other yeah downs got involved early in this game

39:57Mike Wright:pitman had a tough one i think he was only like two for 20 in this game he he should be in the duds uh trey mcbride into the end zone sam laporta another touchdown for him um oh he hit the man that was a really great that was a man catch back of the end zone harold fannin was seven for 81 Tucker Kraft saved the start of the week with a nice touchdown run, and Jake Ferguson can't stop scoring after he's spent his whole career not scoring. But just 3 for 33 in this game, a little bit disappointing. Very surprising. Travis Kelsey, 6 for 78. He's been serviceable, and there you go. We'll take a break, and we'll jump into the duds.

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42:19Mike Wright:Well, we're done talking about the studs. It's time to talk through these guys.

42:26Jason Moore:Pooped in his big boy pants.

42:31Mike Wright:We did have an update. Todd Bowles, Buccaneers head coach, wanted to let us know ahead of time that Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin are not in play for next Monday night's game. So Mike Evans, maybe. Yeah, I mean, by that rule of thought, Emeka Abuka maybe. Who knows? He's getting imaging right now. But no Bucky, no Godwin, and we'll see if he has a starting wide receiver room of Tez Johnson and Sterling Shepard and Kate Otten, right? Yeah, Kate Otten's going to be. You ended up starting him, right?

43:10Jason Moore:I did. I started Kate Otten. I was happy with that.

43:13Mike Wright:What did he end up with? Because we didn't talk about him in studs, but I saw him catch a few passes.

43:17Andy Holloway:He was five for 51. That's very usable.

43:20Jason Moore:Yeah, at the tight end position from what I've been getting,

43:22Andy Holloway:I think I had zero last week. And in true Kate Otten fashion, did you guys see the, because I talk about how every time Kate Otten catches a ball, He always takes a huge hit. Did you see him get body slammed? Yeah.

43:34Mike Wright:Yeah, he got lifted over somebody's head. Dude, every week.

43:39Jason Moore:Every week. That's legal, right? So you can't do the slam, but you can lift them? No, you can't lift them. But he jumped. He was the one who jumped. He jumped, and then the guy, he was on his shoulder, so he raised up. Because at the time, I was like. It looked like a fine play.

43:55Mike Wright:You should be able to lift them if they're over 250. That should be the rule.

43:58Jason Moore:I think that's appropriate. That's fair, right? Yeah, because it takes, well, one, it shows your own strength and skill. I mean, not everybody can do it. Two, they're big. They're going to be able to handle this fall.

44:09Mike Wright:Oh, but the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

44:11Jason Moore:That's what makes it awesome. That's what makes it an awesome play. If you were to take, like, Devon Achan and, like, suplex him, that feels wrong.

44:20Andy Holloway:You can throw him, but you have to catch him. Guys, KDOT and 6 '5", 247. Oh. Illegal play. Because I said 250? Yeah. Should be 225.

44:29Mike Wright:Yeah. Do they weigh him without the pads? Yes. Then he's over 250. That's a good point.

44:36Andy Holloway:You've got to have at least three pounds of pads, right? But I'm not. When you go to a fight, they're not like, hey. This is the dumbest conversation. You've got to fight, you weigh in, try to be as low as possible.

44:46Mike Wright:Yeah. Justin Fields. Nine for 17. He's so hard to watch. I'm watching this game. I had traveled this weekend. I'm out in Los Angeles. I'm trying to eat a breakfast. and I'm having to watch this nauseating performance I don't know how many times I exclaimed I hate the Jets because I have Brees Hall like I want them to do well I like seeing Garrett Wilson have success I believe statistically this was the worst performance of any quarterback on the season outside of Jake Brown he had one performance he took 9 sacks his average time to sack was almost 4 seconds

45:26Andy Holloway:that is so long it's ridiculous and he will be so back next week against carolina he will at home

45:35Mike Wright:i i've never had the courage to to play him because this is the possibility all the time it's not um it's not oh man he only got you like 15 it's like i he put a blindfold on

45:51Andy Holloway:and then took a crap in the backfield in four point scoring it has been 29 and a half four 27.1 25.9 4.9 there you go so do you want uh it's it's roulette and well yes but the the the horrible games buffalo and denver like you put them up against pit when their defense was really reeling then i'm sure he'll be fine against carolina he will be i'm not gonna sit here and tell you that justin fields is it's gonna be awesome quarterback play it should be awesome fantasy points.

46:25Mike Wright:This will be the end of him as a starter. Yes, he is. This will be the end of him as a starting quarterback. Yes, it will.

46:29Jason Moore:He is one that you don't want to watch, though. You just don't. I really wish, I genuinely, I know it's insulting to him, and he would never accept it, but he should be a running back. He would be so good. Well, he could go Terrell

46:44Mike Wright:Pryor, who became a wide receiver, and was versatile. He's just so good in an open field.

46:49Jason Moore:You are such an amazing athlete, and when you get in the open field, no one can tackle him. He pulls away from people. If they had Jacoby Brissett at quarterback, they'd be way better off him. Yeah, yeah, as a team, for sure. As a team. I mean, he's such a great athlete. I want to watch him do what he's great at. But the problem is he keeps trying to play quarterback.

47:07Mike Wright:Jordan Love, 19 for 26 and just one touchdown. I know that Papa Josh was deciding between Jordan Love and Drake May this week, and it was such a tough decision. I would have played Love, too. You played Love, right? Yeah. And Drake May scored double the points?

47:21Andy Holloway:I mean, Jordan Love and Matthew Stafford. humongous disappointments.

47:26Mike Wright:Stafford was a huge letdown after being a pickup. And then Bo Nix, man, you watch this game against the Jets. He's weird. He is weird. He makes plays that look like he's really great. And then he feels like he, I don't know, he almost gets overconfident.

47:41Jason Moore:And can't see the field. How much do we, like, I feel like these London games, it's not a guarantee that they're going to be bad, but so often we are seeing bad football. Anecdotally, it feels like they're all bad. Yeah, and so it's like, should we be a little bit more concerned going forward of just like the chance that these teams are playing bad football? Well, we'll get another one next week.

48:02Mike Wright:Rams. And then we'll get another one after that. Oh, my gosh. Do we get another one after that?

48:06Andy Holloway:Oh, Rams, Jaguars next week.

48:07Mike Wright:Yeah. Yeah, we're going to get them forever, Jason. Bo Nix, though, really on the fringe of the start category at this point, he's really been disappointing. Like when you looked at the late round shot on him versus like a Drake May, I mean, his best two weeks, he was the quarterback 12 in week two, quarterback three in week four. But other than that, he's been outside or 15 or later with some real duds in this season where, I don't know. He should be able to perform against a good opponent, like a good matchup, you'd think. But he is a matchup play. I would agree with that. Saquon, 12 for 58.

48:45Mike Wright:Judkins, 12 for 36. The Judkins' responses were very strong. and I don't really understand the offensive decision making.

48:53Jason Moore:What in the world are you doing? I know you're down early. I know you're down early. 12 carries? You had to keep throwing it in the second half. And I'm all about throwing it. It's more efficient than running it. But you also look at your personnel. Look at your team and say, what can we do well? Because Judkins has been awesome. And Gabriel is not very good. and you're putting the ball in the wrong player's hands over and over. I kept thinking when I was watching the games, I was talking to Mike, I was like, where's Judkins? Why aren't they using him?

49:30Mike Wright:His previous three weeks, 20, 25, and 25 opportunities, right? It's not like they were winning all those games. In this game, he got 13 total opportunities. He didn't catch a pass. To your point, Jay, okay, maybe it's more efficient. Get him the ball in the screen game. Do something. like very frustrating uh yeah and then certainly not going away or worried uh no but we go it's just this morning next week it's kind of the way it is like the javante performance was really it was a bummer that was a pretty big bummer because you talked about carolina's defense i mean 13 for 29 he did catch five passes for five yards hey that's kind of what he does saquon judkins javante gibbs had a kind of a down performance yeah it started strong but they i don't know a bunch of people were saying jameer up the middle gibbs like what are they doing like breeze hall he tried his darndest i watched this game 22 rushing attempts you got to hold on to the fact that i think his running back uh opportunity shares like 93 the last two weeks he should be okay you talk about carolina next week and then no targets in the game not one

50:39Andy Holloway:check down in this game fields yeah it was it was trying to stop the sacks is what it was though

50:44Mike Wright:check downs didn't happen because they were keeping breece hall in to try a chip and that

50:47Jason Moore:helped him only suffer nine sacks it helped him get sacked later in the play right he was allowed

50:53Mike Wright:to hold the ball longer jk dobbins 14 for 40 his first real dud of the year first game under 11 there were a lot of running back duds i mean travis etn 12 for 27 it was the week it was not just injuries it was also a lot of low scores i mean there were lots of ken walker commentaries because it's been three bad weeks now and it just keeps getting worse i don't what is he i what are you ken walker you sometimes you look like the best player in football and other times

51:24Jason Moore:you don't even matter yeah and and charbonnet as well you play 35 of snaps you realize this yes

51:31Andy Holloway:The snaps were way down after two weeks. Even though the fantasy performance the last couple weeks is not there.

51:37Mike Wright:What are you?

51:38Andy Holloway:But 19 for 81. That should be good. 10 for 86. That should be good.

51:43Mike Wright:You're talking about the past two weeks? Yeah, for Walker.

51:46Andy Holloway:I know it didn't turn into huge fantasy points, but this week was bizarre.

51:52Jason Moore:And the Seahawks have to be saying, what are you? Because they don't know what they're doing as far as with these two backs. you had 60 % of snaps for Charbonnet Charbonnet played 60 % of the snaps they had like a three

52:06Andy Holloway:Charbonnet runs in a row yeah at the goal line just stuffed every time yeah it was just they

52:11Jason Moore:they got they were moving the offense great throwing the ball awesome get down the field get near the goal line and then they're like let's screw this well both of them let's let's give the ball to Charbonnet three times and then uh kick a field goal he's they combine six yards per carry on the season and they still are just like that's fine they gave him the ball 12 times

52:31Mike Wright:for 24 yards yeah can't walk they couldn't run they could not run on jacksonville yeah which jacksonville does have a really good was that 22 for 58 yep okay speaking of not running couldn't look more pathetic honestly just a perfect there were some like little nuggets of extra pain during in the weekend, the Buka injury on top of the Harrison injury, and then like Ramondre Stevenson, like I am the wheel of shame on Friday. I've broken the ice. I'm finally going to spin it, and I deserve every bit of that wheel of shame because I expected Ramondre to get 43 rushing yards. They didn't beat the New Orleans Saints, did they?

53:10Mike Wright:They did. Oh, easily. Oh, they beat them easily. Okay, 13 for 18. Now, I mean, Travion Anderson, 9 for 27. Travion's never going to happen. That's how it feels.

53:23Andy Holloway:Yeah, I wouldn't give up, but it feels like it.

53:28Mike Wright:I mean, you realize the snap count. Remember, the whole argument for me saying trade for Ramondre Stevenson is that I think he's going to get a ton more work. Do you know what his snap count was? I'm looking at 72%. 72 % in this game.

53:40Jason Moore:That is a wonderful number for a running back. A running back you want like 60 % is good. They can have a great fantasy game if they're up at 60%. 70 % is you're like a bell cow.

53:50Mike Wright:And Travion was 50 % last week, so it's going down for Travion. Did you see my controller stuck moment for Travion Henderson? Yes. Oh, my God. What in the world? He was in this pass protection. I missed it. And he's in the pass protection stance, and he's real serious about it. Yeah. Three-point stance.

54:11Jason Moore:Three-point stance, hands out in front of you, doing the little shuffle feet.

54:14Mike Wright:And Drake May is running out of the pocket to the right, and Chavion's just stuck in the position and not moving.

54:24Jason Moore:He is there ready to block no one. There's no one in front of him, and he is ready to block him, though. If there was someone there, he would have blocked the crap out of him.

54:34Mike Wright:My controller's unplugged is the moment.

54:37Andy Holloway:He is looking at – there's a guy on the outside, and he's not sure if May is going to run or throw. So I can see what he's doing. I know what he's doing, but he just looks so stupid.

54:48Mike Wright:He kind of looked like maybe he got reamed for some pass protection problems. Honestly, I think that is a –

54:53Andy Holloway:And so he kept zoned in. I think it's a part of the problem for Henderson is this is how people use players. And it's like we can go to the Detroit, how they are uplifting their players. There was even an interview with Guns Mahoney, and he was like, we don't accept guys who take plays off. And then there was a follow-up. He was like, okay, well, what do you do? He's like, well, when we see it, we correct it. We build them back up. We get them out there. And it's like I think that Henderson is just getting crapped on by his coaching staff, and he is not really sure how to handle it. So now he's overthinking everything.

55:31Andy Holloway:He's up in his head. Yeah.

55:33Mike Wright:Yeah. No, I think that that's a big part of it.

55:34Jason Moore:He is still clearly the more efficient runner. I mean, he's doing more with less. he's just not allowed to get more is what it feels like right now it's so brutal

55:48Mike Wright:tony pollard isaiah pacheco kareem hunt and then hassan haskins who who people spent some money on and took a shot uh were other disappointing performances at wide receiver ew yeah

56:00Andy Holloway:courtland sutton one for 17 yeah i mean it's shocking stuff bo nicks has a bad day and courtland sutton has a bad day maybe throw him the ball more michael pitman jr two for 20 davante

56:10Mike Wright:Adams just four for 39 was wide open on multiple touchdowns that Stafford just missed him on. It would have changed the whole day for both of those guys. Stafford had the down week. You talked about Keenan and the conversation around Keenan Allen, four for 27. And Jacoby Myers continues to be worthless. Romeo Dobbs back down to five for 55 for Dobbs. That's normal for Dobbs. Yeah, that's not. I don't like that.

56:35Andy Holloway:I'm just saying it's bad.

56:35Mike Wright:Yeah, you just couldn't chase three touchdowns, obviously.

56:39Andy Holloway:but um any players you want to talk about there no are we done with juan johnson yeah we are so the uh the other guys are back oh we got johnson we got tasseled again oh that's right oh he's back right at the goal he's back everyone and it worked yeah but for fantasy

56:58Mike Wright:it did not it did not work for fantasy oh man we are we're back mason taylor just had one target This game was, there were no wide receivers.

57:09Jason Moore:He had two yards, so two yards is a pretty good market share of Justin Fields passing.

57:17Andy Holloway:He was not allowed to bring his meow mix into the country. Ah, was that? Yeah, so a little kitty cat was hungry.

57:24Mike Wright:How many, Garrett Wilson, we didn't talk about him, did we, on the wide receivers? What was his total line?

57:32Andy Holloway:Very bad.

57:33Mike Wright:Was Josh Reynolds the leading receiver in that game?

57:35Andy Holloway:Garrett was eight targets, three for 13. Okay.

57:39Mike Wright:Hunter Henry, three for 27. Mark Andrews, four for 24. Isaiah Likely's done nothing because the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, I don't even put. Are they one in five?

57:46Jason Moore:Yes, they are. They are one in five. Likely to me is going to be someone that we need to remember to pick up next week coming out of the bye. Out of the bye. Because we really haven't seen him and Lamar together this year. Coming into the season, I think there was high hopes, maybe even expectations for Likely. and the season is basically starting over for the Ravens in two weeks.

58:08Andy Holloway:That game was interesting. I didn't want to play Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry actually had a very good day. He was 24 for 122. And the Ravens, the game was very tight for a long time. And then eventually the dam opens up and the Rams are scoring more points. And so then that turns into, well, we have to have Cooper Rush. and then eventually Cooper Rush is benched for Huntley. So it was nice to see Derrick Henry finally get something going again. We get the bye week. We get Lamar back. We get Chicago. We get Miami. We get Minnesota. So it should be brighter days ahead for Derrick Henry.

58:50Mike Wright:I don't know for certain that this is correct, but it looks to me like there have been two teams in the last 12 years that have made the playoffs starting 1-5. Okay. 2015 Kansas City Chiefs won 10 straight after starting 1-5. I remember that. The Colts were 1-5 in 2018 and made the playoffs. It's very rare, obviously. Hard to do. I mean, you're talking a 1 % or 2 % chance probably.

59:14Andy Holloway:How many division games do they have left?

59:16Mike Wright:Oh, by the way, the Steelers have been – they won the last two weeks. The entire division has lost two consecutive weeks. The whole division 0-3.

59:24Andy Holloway:That's what I mean. They might be able to make up some ground. Well, you can beat the Browns. Yep. You can beat the Bengals. Yeah. So. Just can they get healthy enough to beat the Steelers?

59:37Mike Wright:Yeah. Yeah. And they've got, is this the bye week coming up for them?

59:40Andy Holloway:Yeah. Yeah.

59:40Mike Wright:Okay. Yeah. You got your shot. You better go on a run. Problem is, is that defense has been so beat up. I don't know if they can do it. Yeah. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. We'll be back tomorrow with a waiver wire episode. And you're going to need it.

1:00:00Andy Holloway:Should be a really interesting one.

1:00:02Mike Wright:Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of question marks. Hopefully more information around some of these injuries and how long they're going to be out. And we'll be back tomorrow, waiver wire, and a lot more. Take care. Goodbye.

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