Fantasy Football - Week 6 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Nasty Boys - Podcast for 10/7

10:10Mike Wright:you missed you lucky dog the cardinals are the only team in the history of the national football league to lose on three consecutive game winning field goals good nobody's ever done it excellent

10:19Andy Holloway:excellent the plan is working guys the plan what is the plan yeah misery everyone into the sun

10:26Mike Wright:kyler too everyone marv everyone we didn't get any mic on yesterday's show um here's an interesting thing from this game one you know like i said shout out to jacksonville the four and one did

10:42Andy Holloway:Did you hear the clip of Jonathan Gannon saying that no one liked a particular play call? Yes. And they were like, yeah, we just didn't call timeout. Also, I would have just let the play happen.

10:55Mike Wright:Into the sun, man. I mean, Jonathan Gannon was like, he's like, I didn't like the play call. And then they're like, well, would you ever override him? He goes, no, I don't override him. He's my play caller. It's like, we don't know who's doing this. Yeah. And they also said, hey. We're all trying to find the guy. Jason, you were criticizing Kyler yesterday about not checking out. You said other quarterbacks would have checked out. They came out and said verbatim he had no ability to check out of that play.

11:21Andy Holloway:That's smart. No, that's great.

11:23Jason Moore:We were all stuck with the play. The quarterback, the play caller, and the head coach. So we let the defense know what we were doing. We said, hey, guys, we're going to run up the middle. And then we were like, but we can't do anything about it.

11:35Andy Holloway:Nothing could be done.

11:36Mike Wright:You could run a whole Chick-fil-A with the staff from the Cardinals. That's what you could do. Nothing could be done, guys. All right. Trevor Lawrence threw for a touchdown, ran for two.

11:45Andy Holloway:The last one was the most hilarious touchdown ever.

11:50Mike Wright:A double fall down? A double fall down. It was like his shoes were tied together.

11:53Jason Moore:He got stepped on on the snap and then fell down, got up, fell down, got up, and then scored a touchdown. Do you guys see Chris Jones on that play? Yeah.

12:02Andy Holloway:I don't know if he was hurt or cramped or something. You got to hope so.

12:06Jason Moore:Chris Jones is standing there doing nothing.

12:08Mike Wright:He thought the play was over from the jump.

12:10Jason Moore:I think he really did. I think he thought when Trevor Lawrence fell down, the guys that were near him were going to tackle him, so he didn't do anything. He was just standing straight up. And then it's like as the play happened, like if he had stayed involved, he could have absolutely stopped that play from happening, but he did not.

12:26Mike Wright:Jason won in our matchup between he and I exclusively by a 44-yard catch by Travis Hunter. That 44-yard catch was the differential in our victory.

12:38Jason Moore:How do you feel now? Terrible. about the Travis Hunter for Woody Marks trade that we did last week?

12:48Mike Wright:Bad.

12:49Jason Moore:I believe if we didn't make that trade. Oh, I win by so many points.

12:54Mike Wright:Not because I played Travis Hunter. He would have been on my bench, but because I would have played Ja 'Cory Kraski Merritt. Right. In which case, yeah, I would have. I mean, we can't have a show anymore. All right. Patrick Mahomes, though. Like, is Mahomes? Mahomes and Matthew Stafford are the two quarterbacks that I'm interested in talking about in terms of, like, everyone thought they had something with Justin Herbert after one week. He's been actually quite terrible since then. I think yesterday I said on the show, Mike, he's on pace for like 3 ,600 yards and 21 touchdowns and 17 picks, the offensive line being the culprit there.

13:27Mike Wright:Yeah, that's a problem. But Mahomes has been very good for fantasy. Matthew Stafford has gotten, has become very good for fantasy. Both of those guys are really on the radar for me on a waiver show. Yeah, for sure. Or on trade candidates.

13:40Jason Moore:Yeah, I don't know that Mahomes would be out on waivers. Stafford, we'll talk about him later on this episode. But the secret sauce with Mahomes is the rushing. I mean, he has been – he has three games this year where he basically has 60 rushing yards. That is an outrageous number. And I worry that when Rushy Rice comes back, like that goes away a little bit because right now it's like he doesn't really have anyone to throw the ball to.

14:06Mike Wright:I feel like it's more a result of the running game being so bad. Maybe. I mean, I feel like he's their leading rusher on the season.

14:12Jason Moore:You know this? Yeah, he's on pace for 650 rushing yards, something right around there.

14:17Mike Wright:Tyquan Thornton, 3 for 90. Travis Kelsey, 7 for 61 and a touchdown. Xavier Worthy, 6 for 42. He did play. Brian Thomas, Jr., 4 for 80. Not into the end zone. Travis Hunter, 3 for 64. It was nice to see. And the touchdown pass was caught by Parker Washington. Britton Strange got hurt in this game. So we got Munt. Johnny. Johnny Munt took over. But that was your Monday night football game, and it was a good one. It was. It was a fun one. All right. Moving on.

14:49Jason Moore:News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance.

14:56Mike Wright:All right. I'm Marty and Hampton. This was the big news yesterday. Not good. Placed on IR with an ankle injury. Out at least four weeks. It's a waiver show. welcome to our weekly backup running back discussion based on history you should play

15:14Jason Moore:all of them hampton is quite the roller coaster of the season you know came out looked like he was going to be great the naji injury with the eye and then it was like okay so marian's gonna be the guy and then naji was active and got really involved it's like okay so marian's gonna really be split and then naji got injured it's like hey i've got a marian that's all and then Amari got injured, it's a wild ride.

15:36Mike Wright:They lost two straight games. They don't look great right now. Their offensive line is gone. So Hampton's on IR for at least four weeks. Commander's head coach Dan Quinn said he's optimistic about Terry McLaurin for week six. Okay. So that's good news for the commanders who really, I mean, they just buckled down in that game and shut down the Chargers. It was 10-0, and then all of a sudden it was 27-10, and it was over. Christian Watson returning or designated to return from injured reserves.

16:07Jason Moore:He'll have 21 days to be activated. Honestly, I feel like they really could use him. You know, whether you pick him up now or not, you might have to because I think people in a lot of leagues will be picking him up, but I would imagine the expectation is he's not going to play for two weeks.

16:24Andy Holloway:Yeah, I would think they'll use more of the 21-day window. So it's, I mean, I think that's more interesting for Jordan Love, who has been okay over the season. But if you put Watson on that team and he can really stretch the field, it becomes very intriguing down the stretch here.

16:48Mike Wright:I mentioned yesterday Zach Taylor said they are going to evaluate Jake Browning and whether he's going to start in week six. Jason said he thought he'd start. They may not have another choice. it's just the turnovers have been outrageous uh i think that there is a line of thinking here at this juncture to sell high on jamar chase after last week it's not that you can't get those games it's that they won't be reliable and if jake browning stays the quarterback they won't be reliable if they change quarterbacks it could actually get worse so i think that there is an opportunity potentially to trade chase away yeah i'm perfectly fine with it on a double touchdown

17:26Andy Holloway:garbage time game starting Jamar every conversation this year of Jamar Chase is like well who would you play over him and it'll be risky because it's either you'll get just nothingness or you do have the potential for for like what happens this week because he's Jamar Chase yeah

17:41Jason Moore:Jake Browning is this might sound ridiculous but Jake Browning is awesome for Jamar Chase I mean obviously he's not Joe Burrow but by comparison of if if they keep losing which they probably will They've got a tough schedule the next couple of weeks still. If they make that change, you guys realize who the current backup is on the depth chart?

18:03Andy Holloway:I see it. Oh, man.

18:05Jason Moore:What's Brett ripping farts? Yeah. That will not go well.

18:08Mike Wright:I don't know. They're stuck. I mean, Jamar Chase has two weeks this season where he was absolutely dominant, but his three games with Jake Browning, you know, five for 50, five for 23, and then last week, six for 110. But the first three quarters of the game were awful.

18:23Jason Moore:Would you trade Jamar Chase for Devontae Adams?

18:26Mike Wright:Like I said, I would consider trading Jamar Chase.

18:29Jason Moore:I think I would do it.

18:30Mike Wright:But I don't know if I'd do that.

18:30Jason Moore:I would do it.

18:32Mike Wright:For Devontae Adams?

18:33Jason Moore:For Devontae Adams.

18:34Mike Wright:I think I'm actually a no on that one, and I want to say yes. Okay. George Pickens?

18:43Mike Wright:Boy, I guess it's harder to trade Jamar Chase than I thought it was.

18:46Jason Moore:It's really hard to let go of something so beautiful.

18:49Mike Wright:That's what you'd have to do, probably. and I don't know if the Pickens manager does it but maybe you leverage the return of CeeDee Lamb to do it so yeah Papa Josh you traded Chase for Quinton Johnston I did

19:03Andy Holloway:I would have done it too

19:06Mike Wright:I think that could still be fine for you it's just a tough week Kyler Murray's foot will be monitored throughout the week says Jonathan Gannon he actually left that game to go to the locker room for a second and came back I think he'll play but he might not and if he doesn't it's Jacoby Brissett Snoop Huntley

19:25Jason Moore:where's the beef? we don't get a lot of Jacoby Brissett talk on this show so he has to earn it with the start

19:33Mike Wright:Snoop Huntley might be the starter for Baltimore whoop, okay see you Cooper yeah, Cooper Rush Lamar Jackson if he can't play might be Snoop Huntley Antonio Gibson out for the year with a torn ACL it's a bummer Tyrone Tracy limited He may be back this week. I was a little bummed at the production from Cam last week, Scatterboo. Did you see his block? His block was amazing. He pancaked alignment.

20:01Jason Moore:Dude, there's something wrong with him.

20:04Mike Wright:Yes, I agree. In the best possible way. He's a crayon eater. He found his sport. He did find his sport. Did you eat paint chips as a kid? Yeah, he definitely did. Saquon Barkley did not practice on Monday. They estimated. Yeah, because they play Thursday. Every report I've seen is that he's just general soreness and going to play on Thursday. So I think they play the Giants on Thursday night football, but you've got to monitor that. You could always toss somebody on your bench. We'll talk about who it might be. And that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today at Progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third-party insurers.

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23:28Jason Moore:the waiver wire presented by walmart

23:33Mike Wright:well we get the bears falcons packers and stealers back from the bye this week my sweet sweet bijon yeah you welcome back you still scored the most in our league uh the texans did you really and the vikings go on by yeah he did it while complaining the whole week too yeah i thought

23:53Jason Moore:he must have had a terrible week based on messages i did based on all the complaining

23:57Mike Wright:I mean, I assumed he didn't score the most in the league. The Texans, you won't have to choose Woody Marks, Nick Chubb this week. They're going on by. The Vikings, you lose Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and company. Going on by, no Jordan Mason. But those are the only two teams on the week six by, so it's a little bit more manageable. We're going to dig into the running back position to kick things off. Amazingly, the two-touchdown Kareem Hunt, still just 33 % rostered in leagues. Michael Carter 59 % rostered and then we can talk about the Chargers backfield but those three situations seem to be the leaders in the clubhouse for running back yeah Michael Carter is

24:37Andy Holloway:my number one by a lot uh and like Demarcato kind of got the the spotlight because of the play but it's like Carter played way more way more way more snaps got five targets and so he's he's at the top of my list because I think that you should stick. What if they want to punish DiMarcato?

25:02Jason Moore:Well, Ganonardi came out and said that they will have no punishment for him. Did he really? Yeah, he did. He came out and said there will be no punishment for him. He came out and apologized for how he treated him on the sideline. It was unbelievable. He yelled at his face and hit him a couple times and then he came out and apologized and said that's not how he wants to act. He wants to be more level-headed. DiMarcato was

25:23Andy Holloway:destroyed there and you just went and got in his face like i don't know i don't know what help i

25:28Mike Wright:don't think football fans are happy in any situation yeah there's there is no right answer

25:32Jason Moore:here because honestly part of me wants you to take demarcato yell at him on the sideline and say please go to the locker room pack your bags you are not no longer an arizona cardinal yeah and then part of you wants to be like hey you got to build your players up you got to do the right thing and not hurt your team out of anger. And he has decided to do neither and both. He's like, I'm so angry. I hate you. No, I'm just kidding, baby. You're fine. You're not going to be punished at all. He's probably the starter now. Michael Carter probably doesn't touch the ball. Overcompensate? Yeah, just overcompensate.

26:06Jason Moore:For hitting him? That's my guess because Gannon doesn't know what he's doing. He's just like, don't sue me? Yeah. So much of it depends. Dude, dude, dude. Dude, it was not assault. look you got the start wearing pads it so much of it has to do how the player reacts to it too

26:21Mike Wright:and we don't know that that's all behind closed door you know what i mean the what is amari demarcato's attitude about what happened and um i know my attitude he's moving on personally i so

26:31Jason Moore:you've got trey benson who is on the ir his seems like it will be longer than four weeks but you eligible to return in four weeks. So maybe that pushes Carter ahead. But the Omari and Hampton, obviously Trey Benson has already been one week into the IR. The situation with the Chargers, I feel like the Chargers are still a better offense, a better team, even though they've been struggling and they have the O-line issues. They are a better team, a better offense, and have a better quarterback. And so that situation is very similar to the Cardinals with Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal Sassoon. but I think I want Haskins more than Carter.

27:11Jason Moore:Really?

27:12Andy Holloway:Oh boy. You're that confident that Haskins is the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am not by any stretch.

27:17Jason Moore:So when you watch the game live with the Chargers, what you saw was towards the end of the game, Hampton got injured, wasn't able to make it back, and then it was Vidal Sassoon getting the work. But when you actually look at how the game flow went, Hassan Haskins was involved early. Hassan Haskins was the backup yes and then later in the game I mean they they literally it was uh Trey Lance out there yeah yeah they had pulled there that was when Vidal Sassoon was playing so I I think it's definitely Haskins as the starter sure my counter to that would be literally Michael

27:52Andy Holloway:Carter who was not active for the Arizona Cardinals DiMarcato was the was the backup and then he remained the backup that's where I'm saying of Michael Carter is by far my number one because I know he's the guy where the Chargers situation is at Haskins. Do they go the Tampa Bay route where we thought Sean Tucker might get more play, but they went all to Rashad White.

28:17Mike Wright:I don't think either of those players is good enough for it to be just them. Well, yeah, it'll be the platoon. That's the biggest issue I have. It's figuring out. I'm Carter by so much more. Well, Carter's not going to be all just him either.

28:28Jason Moore:I mean, DiMarcato will be involved just like he was. We've already seen it. Yeah.

28:32Mike Wright:I mean, Michael Carter got all but seven touches in the entire game.

28:36Andy Holloway:Yeah, I think 15 carries with targets is the recipe for Carter.

28:40Mike Wright:It was 18. Oh, you're saying going forward? I'm saying like a baseline. I think Vidal's the better player than Haskins. And he did run better in that game. That's the problem. They're not just going to play Haskins out of some loyalty or depth chart. They're just going to play the player that plays the best. and I have a hard time investing enough fab in that situation personally. But Jason has conviction around Haskins.

29:07Andy Holloway:And I don't think it's wrong, Jay, to be like, what we saw on Sunday leans to Haskins, and that's how I would lean my priority and my fab, but I don't feel real confident that it won't end up being Vidal.

29:19Jason Moore:Yeah, I will say that neither one of those players are very good, and the offensive line now with the injuries does not look good. It's just a matter of still scoring opportunities. I will say this. The Cardinals around the red zone over the last couple of years, they have been – they rushed the touchdowns in. And we've seen it, whether it was DiMarcado, whether it was Michael Carter, Benson Connor of old.

29:44Mike Wright:Bam Knight last week.

29:45Jason Moore:Bam Knight got one. And so, you know, how many touchdowns each team scores, I feel like the Chargers will score more. But maybe it just – maybe this has put the ball in, you know, the hands of Justin Herbert more and the running game doesn't doesn't work maybe you swayed me to to the Michael Carter side my order would be Carter Hunt and then I probably would take the

30:07Mike Wright:lower fab I would go low fab on both of the the Chargers guys personally and just try to see whoever ends up on my team as a dart throw outside of that pay attention to the snap counts going up for Kendra Miller they've gone up five consecutive weeks yeah if they were to trade I know you guys

30:21Andy Holloway:don't think is likely well i just not to arizona but i think there's a chance that kamara does yeah

30:26Mike Wright:i mean to me it's like you you also defer to the veteran that wants to like if your season's lost and the veteran wants to go and he's paid his dues there's a chance he asks to go do that yeah um you know it didn't work out for sean tucker this week i don't think it's going to work out for sean tucker at this point with such a limited role they just didn't give him very much work at all

30:45Andy Holloway:It was disappointing.

30:47Mike Wright:Pay attention to Brashard Smith still if the Chiefs want to keep getting him involved. But again, not a lot of work. Bashaw Tootin, not much going on there. Chris Rodriguez didn't get almost any work in this game, which, Mike, we talked about it yesterday with JCM on the studs. But he had not practiced. JCM had not practiced the week that Rodriguez had played. And then now it was the JCM breakout game.

31:14Jason Moore:we we expect that Saquon is fine but it's worth noting like at least a little tiny discussion in case all of a sudden something gets worse as the week goes on how do you order that back because right in the beginning of the season it was like oh Will Shipley looks like that guy he looked great then he broke his ribs they traded for Tank Bigsby and then AJ I don't know that he ever

31:33Andy Holloway:actually broke his ribs like that might have just been an unconfirmed report he came back way too

31:38Jason Moore:soon but like and they call it an oblique there's now three running backs there how would you just order them and i personally if i'm going after these guys it's like zero dollar bids yeah yeah

31:47Andy Holloway:i'm yes and i don't because i don't think this is a high priority the problem is is i think tank

31:52Mike Wright:bigsby's had zero opportunities with this team but he very much looks like the michael carter of the situation to me could be where if you traded significant capital for him if an actual injury knocked Saquon out not mid-game but for weeks I think Bigsby gets the most work he certainly

32:10Andy Holloway:could for this week if I'm just trying to prepare for that emergency situation I would put Dylan at the top but I don't feel yeah this is great because I think I've got Shipley at the top so we all pick one yeah this is a this is more of a I mean like Michael Carter if he still happens to be out there is a great add. But otherwise, it's a lot of stashing of players.

32:33Mike Wright:The drop candidates at running back that people are asking about, Woody Marks goes on by. No, no. Isaiah Pacheco with a couple of better weeks.

32:40Andy Holloway:Him and Kareem Hunt, it's so tough because Pacheco's the one who's playing a lot. Kareem Hunt got the two touchdowns and had the big play. Probably always will get the two touchdowns. He probably will. R.J. Harvey. No. No, no, no.

32:53Jason Moore:Do not drop R.J. Harvey. If R.J. Harvey was on waivers, I would pick him up. I would too. But you wouldn't play him. No, I would not play him. J.K. Dobbins looks excellent. He is the starter. R.J. Harvey might be irrelevant the entire rest of the season. This is a rookie with high draft capital who has looked fine in his opportunities. Amazingly, I can't even count over the course of the season how many have been called back. If you look at his box score, it's like he didn't do anything. It's like, well, he did a lot of things. They said in college, his college report, he needs a few holds to make a big play.

33:27Mike Wright:Yeah, well, he's good when they hold.

33:28Jason Moore:They just got to get the flags not going right. But I wouldn't drop a rookie. Travion?

33:32Andy Holloway:No, I would not drop him.

33:33Jason Moore:No, same.

33:35Andy Holloway:Especially with Antonio Gibson. I know that Ramondre remains the guy, but they like to use multiple backs there.

33:42Jason Moore:This was like last week. There was a lot of Bill Krosky drops, and he was on our Wednesday episode was my pick him up if he got dropped. Rookies that have shown a little bit, they might get opportunity as the season goes along. You don't want those guys on waivers. You want them on your roster.

34:01Mike Wright:Kyle shared something. I'm trying to find it.

34:05Andy Holloway:Yeah, so Kyle looked it up. Of the 52 running backs drafted in rounds two or three over the last decade, 46 % of them failed to have a 12-point week within their first five games. And 67 % of them had just one or fewer.

34:21Mike Wright:They don't all progress this fast. So, you know, Henry, Mixon, Javante, Miles Sanders, James Cook, those were all names in that category. Day two, three, or round two, three running backs that had not broken out at this point.

34:35Andy Holloway:And, I mean, it's like there are scenarios. Jason's right. There is a scenario where Harvey ends up not working out at all, and that will be a big-time bummer because he looks like he has juice. But it's like Nick Chubb was drafted in the second round, did nothing for eight or nine weeks, and then they traded Carlos Hyde, and then Nick Chubb was a league-winning running back. It's just the opportunity.

34:59Mike Wright:Jacob Dobbs has never been hurt before, right?

35:01Jason Moore:No, he's got two strong legs, man.

35:05Mike Wright:Yeah, both of those guys are just keep them on your roster, keep them tucked away in a safe space.

35:11Andy Holloway:Kyle was pointing out, at this point, Bucky Irving of last year, league-winning Bucky Irving at this point had one 12-point game through his first five weeks.

35:20Mike Wright:Again, not to say that they will become those things, but we don't have enough time to throw them away.

35:26Andy Holloway:Well, and if anyone's going to all of a sudden catch a hot streak to finish the season, it's these guys. Exactly. It's not a veteran who's been playing for four or five years.

35:36Jason Moore:Yeah, Hassan Haskins has had his opportunities to kind of show he could do something special, and he has shown he can't. Now, he will have opportunity, and opportunity can override that and be worthy of fantasy goodness, but not greatness. Greatness will come from these guys who have not yet earned their NFL opportunity, and when they do, they show that they've got something special.

35:58Mike Wright:Wide receivers. We want to let you know Jalen Coker also eligible to return in week five. I don't know how much we care, but at least a little bit. A little bit. Yeah, Christian Watson eligible to return in week six. Jaden Reed week eight. Cedric Tillman week ten. Mike I don't know if you saw but Isaiah Bond had eight useless targets. I did yeah.

36:19Andy Holloway:Those Cleveland targets. I did see a good amount of the Gabriel throws if we want to call. Are those targets?

36:26Mike Wright:You're talking because they're short area?

36:27Andy Holloway:And just flying over people's heads.

36:30Mike Wright:I mean he had two touchdowns. He was okay. He didn't turn the ball over and they almost won. So hey listen there's a math equation. Every three Cleveland targets is one real target. Okay that's fine. That's good. That's fine. So targets matter if you get 30 of them. If you get 30. If you get 30. All right. Wide receiver pickups. Let's talk about some names that are out there. There are a few names that we've talked about repeatedly week over week, names that have been floating around like Trey Tucker and Troy Franklin that are just sitting there, and they're just kind of, you know, okay. You can add them.

37:05Mike Wright:You can spot start them, but they haven't been consistent. But the bigger names, you had the huge week from Kendrick Bourne in San Francisco. I do want people to make sure that Juwan Jennings is not on waiver wires or have been cut because he will return to this team and will be more necessary than Kendrick Bourne. But he was targeted on almost 30 % of his routes last week. Speaking of Kendrick Bourne, 142 yards, you can't ignore that. Romeo Dobbs is coming off of a bye week after his three-touchdown game. Again, spot start category to me. Agreed. Cincinnati, Arizona in the next two weeks for Dobbs.

37:36Mike Wright:A lot of bye week guys get dropped. But let's talk about Ryan Flannoy. Wide receiver for Dallas. 114-yard game. Dak is playing as good as any quarterback in football, not named Baker Mayfield. You're freaking MVP, by the way.

37:51Jason Moore:Yeah, I was going to say, if the season was over today, he would be the MVP.

37:55Mike Wright:So, Jason, you made the comment about, like, why do you do this to yourself? Why are you a fan of the Cardinals? I will and can not ever abandon my team. I fundamentally don't believe in that. I think you've got to – I'm with you, Jay. You've got to go down with the ship for the chance that you get pulled out. No, no, no. Because I want the glory. The glory. Even if I'm 70 years old and I'll be like, I was a fan for 50.

38:20Andy Holloway:You think if they're good again, I'm not just jumping right back in? Of course I am.

38:24Mike Wright:Yeah, but I'll know that you were the coward. Oh, no. You'll feel real bad, Mike.

38:28Andy Holloway:You'll feel so bad. You guys have no pride. No, it is pride. It is the pride in myself. If I was. My money. My time. You guys are on the wrong end of this. My time. Your time is the most valuable thing in the entire world, and they are wasting it. You don't have to watch it.

38:43Mike Wright:You just can't switch teams. That's all I'm saying.

38:45Jason Moore:Would you rather be Jack or Rose? Is this a Titanic? This is a Titanic thing, because one of them went down with the ship, and the other one survived. And she told the stories of how, oh, man, I was on that terrible thing, but she was an old lady living.

39:00Mike Wright:I don't want to be on the Titanic at all.

39:02Jason Moore:That's where we were born. We were born in Arizona or close enough. That's where we live. We're on the Titanic.

39:08Mike Wright:All of this was to say if I could pick another team, it would be freaking Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield. For sure. Between him and Ibuka.

39:14Jason Moore:They are everyone's favorite second place team right now. Anyway, Ryan Flanoy.

39:23Mike Wright:Ryan Flanoy is not very many of us are familiar with. No, six-round pick in 2024. It was kind of a breakout game for him. Nine targets. We've had enough Jalen Tolbert to know that he's not it. Exactly. Right? And then Turpin. Turpin got hurt. And he got hurt, but it doesn't even matter. Turpin is very much a gadgetry, special teams, get the ball in his hands, maybe something happens.

39:47Andy Holloway:I think it matters in terms of snaps. Well, maybe not anymore. Maybe.

39:52Mike Wright:But who was the –

39:54Andy Holloway:I was going to say, we had a Dallas Cowboy years ago be the week one sensation.

40:01Mike Wright:Oh, I was thinking of LaVisca Chennault in the same type of situation. Ogletree. Yeah, it was Ogletree.

40:06Andy Holloway:Ogletree, for this team, for the Cowboys, I think it was three touchdowns in week one, did nothing else. Is this something to be chased, go after? Is this a product of that Pickens is seeing sauce, and so the Jets are just not good other than that?

40:25Mike Wright:It's just a player you could tuck away for almost no fab.

40:28Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, this to me is, I would rather have this be more of a spot start because cd lamb is gone turpin is injured and jalen tolbert doesn't have it so you've got pickens and they need someone else and so i think that's that's where uh you know he shined and you might get another week out of that you know they're playing carolina it's a fine matchup i don't expect cd lamb this week but as soon as cd lamb is back like he's not a stash to me because when lamb is back lamb and pickens are going to take the targets you did see um three for 90 for taekwon

40:59Mike Wright:Thornton he keeps kind of getting it done for Kansas City another spot start there's not a big like add and play every week name including Bourne including Dobbs I mean Dobbs has never been that so there there isn't a name jumping out to me unless you see one Dobbs might be I mean he is

41:15Jason Moore:probably my my number one pick but honestly Alec Pierce is maybe a name that should be talked about because he has the potential to have like this is the type of player I am completely with you Jason It's not, oh, you've got to have them. But if you've got bye weeks, if you've got injuries, and you're like, I have to start someone off of waivers. I have to actually put them not just on my roster, and that's who I get after fab, but I've got to find someone on waivers that I'm going to put in my lineup. Like, I've got Travis Hunter. I had to play Travis Hunter this week. I would much rather play Alec Pierce over Travis Hunter.

41:46Mike Wright:Alec Pierce coming off of an injury, though? It was a concussion. Concussion. Okay.

41:50Jason Moore:So he's not dealing with, you know.

41:52Mike Wright:You heard it here first. Not considered an injury to these two gentlemen? No, no, no. It is. It is a very serious injury, but it is not a you'll be slow for two weeks.

42:01Andy Holloway:You will be full speed.

42:02Mike Wright:Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I'm just not wildly excited about the wide receivers. Isaiah Bond is getting the snaps and the targets, and he will for a long time. Cedric Tillman's not coming off the injury list for at least week 10 is the earliest. So Isaiah Bond will have a lot of opportunity, and Jerry Judy's bad at football. So just pay attention there.

42:24Jason Moore:He gets 30 targets. I would say the guy who probably, like I would start over Alec Pierce, who I just made a case for, who's still available in the vast majority of leagues. You talked about it, but Taequann Thornton is, he is involved. They're playing the Lions this week. Like that's going to be, you know, a lot of points. They've got a 51 point over under right now. And so will Patrick Mahomes have a bomb in this game? Probably one. And it'll probably be Thornton.

42:55Mike Wright:All right. Drop candidates. Matthew Golden. I would not. Don't do that.

43:00Andy Holloway:I wouldn't do it, but. Jerry Judy. Sure.

43:05Mike Wright:I would hold on to him one more week. You missed Alec Io Manure. No, I heard it. Oh, did you? I heard it. That's good stuff. You can drop him because Titans. Yeah. Jameson Williams. I still would not. Keon Coleman.

43:22Jason Moore:Yeah, that's the only. I mean, if he was out on the waiver wire compared to that list, I'd pick up Keon Coleman. Exactly. Given the list of wide receivers, would I drop Keon Coleman to pick up a Michael Carter? Oh, yeah. Sure, but I'm not dropping Keon Coleman for all these wide receivers we're talking about.

43:41Andy Holloway:Three of five matchups of the year, 26 or fewer receiving yards. That team is a roulette.

43:50Mike Wright:If you needed him to catch a bunch of passes like in week one, he'll do it.

43:55Andy Holloway:They needed him to catch passes last week.

43:57Mike Wright:Well, I mean, he did it. He caught a touchdown.

44:00Andy Holloway:Yeah.

44:01Mike Wright:I mean, look, I don't feel like it's a...

44:03Andy Holloway:He caught a touchdown and still ended up with eight points? You betcha.

44:06Mike Wright:Good lord.

44:07Jason Moore:Seven targets and a touchdown. Oh, he had seven targets? Seven targets and a touchdown. Eight fantasy points. Nice.

44:16Mike Wright:Was there other than Kincaid? I don't know if you were happy with a Buffalo Bill last week. Alright, we'll take a break. We'll talk tight ends, defenses, quarterbacks.

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46:00Mike Wright:All right, George Kittle is eligible to return in week six. We don't yet know what's going on.

46:06Andy Holloway:Last we heard was it's not sounding good. It was sounding great from the reporters and then Shanahan cold watered us.

46:13Mike Wright:Last week, we told you, pick up mason taylor this week 12 targets yeah nine nine catches 67 yards yeah he was targeted so much yeah so it's a very good sign with justin fields two weeks back with justin fields two weeks of mason taylor emerging they don't have other pass catchers take your disgusting cowardly kitty cat points yeah there you go uh he's the cowardly lion is that it maybe if i was to have like if you

46:43Jason Moore:If you had your tight end group, you'd probably want Mason Taylor. Yes. The breakaway, you know, not everyone can be a George Kittle, you know, a Travis Kelsey in his prime. A dog. Yeah. Not everyone can do it. But at that position, a Zach Ertz can get it done. You know what I mean? You guys are so rude to Mason Taylor. This is a young, athletic, talented. Son of a Hall of Famer. He's very talented. I'm trying to speak his praises here.

47:09Mike Wright:No, you said you just compared him to Zach Ertz. does not speak. Zach Ertz is 400 years old. Mason Taylor's in his early 20s. Zach Ertz was always Zach Ertz was always No, he wasn't always. He is a brilliant kitty cat.

47:24Jason Moore:Like, he knows where to go. He is a pro's pro. Zach Ertz has always been.

47:30Mike Wright:You're putting Mason Taylor in too small a box. That's all I'm saying.

47:34Jason Moore:You're putting Zach Ertz in too small a box. Zach Ertz was great.

47:37Mike Wright:No, Zach Ertz was outstanding, but he was much more athletic and more capable of yards after the catch when he was younger.

47:44Andy Holloway:Box size TBD for Mason Taylor.

47:47Mike Wright:Yeah, TBD. That's fine. You don't need to put it. I'm just saying he's performing and doing the most he can do with what he gets from Oh, he's doing the most he could possibly do. His routes that he's catching are

47:58Jason Moore:sit-down routes. My point is Zach Ertz.

48:02Andy Holloway:Stop talking about Zach Ertz. No, no.

48:03Jason Moore:He was great. He was great. This is a guy who was like 10.5 a catch, 10 a catch, 10.4, 9.4 during those numbers I just said. Tight end 9, 6, 3, 2, 5. Like, that's how he profiles to be smart. He knows where to go. He can get the targets. He's going to catch it. He doesn't have to break tackles or have a dog in him. That's all I'm saying.

48:25Andy Holloway:Do you want to play Mason Taylor this week or Jake Tonjes McBasketball, who gets to take on Tampa Bay, 11 targets, 7 for 41 with the score this past week?

48:37Mike Wright:I probably play Tonjes because he's got a better chance of scoring.

48:40Andy Holloway:And why is that? because he's got a quarterback a real quarterback whoa whoa whoa whoa Justin Fields sucks Justin Fields is electric in the fourth quarter

48:53Mike Wright:oh my gosh

48:55Jason Moore:oh that garbage I want George Kittle back so bad Jake Taunt

49:01Andy Holloway:oh the Jets game is in London

49:02Jason Moore:Taunt just make basketball what are the rules about transporting

49:06Andy Holloway:felines to overseas You probably need certificates and everything. Proof of rabies shot. I think if you just give him Benadryl, he should be able to make the flight.

49:19Jason Moore:You normally need to have him quarantined for a while.

49:22Mike Wright:You guys are psychos.

49:23Andy Holloway:He'll be down with the luggage. He'll be fine.

49:27Mike Wright:It's climate controlled. Did you know A.J. Barnard has three top ten weeks in five weeks?

49:31Andy Holloway:I did not realize that. I know he had the two touchdowns.

49:34Mike Wright:Seven catches last week on seven targets. he scored in three of four weeks in a row I was just about to say

49:41Jason Moore:Tontas McBasketball is the tight end 10 on the season right now Barnard tight end 9 they're getting it done and I will say that if you want to talk quarterback I am more confident in Sam Darnold than either of the San Francisco guys right now because while they're getting it done Brock is injured and Mack is a weirdo

50:02Mike Wright:he's played great Juwan Johnson people want to know if you can drop him for Mason Taylor. I would drop him for Mason Taylor.

50:08Andy Holloway:For Mason Taylor, if you really need a tight end, but Jawan, again, playing the game, if Jawan were on the waiver wire right now, he would be a priority add for me.

50:15Mike Wright:Well, he always has been for you, though. Yeah.

50:17Jason Moore:I would rather have Jawan than Mason Taylor. Jawan Johnson has not been... He had a couple of bad weeks in a row, yeah. Not been good. But I believe that everyone we're talking about, including Mason Taylor, they're going to be kind of streaming spot starts. There's very few tight ends in the league that are just you you lock them in well the targets were there for juan johnson in the beginning of the year neither one of those guys is getting 10 targets every single week

50:46Mike Wright:okay yeah i'm i like mason taylor more theo johnson got into the end zone twice and they need him with darius slayton i don't i think he's a scary terrifying he is a scary

50:56Jason Moore:start he doesn't put any yards up no not at all for being the most athletic tight end in history he really doesn't do a lot with that athleticism. But the opportunity should be there.

51:08Andy Holloway:He still had seven targets. I mean, Jackson Dart games, five targets, seven targets. And it hasn't turned into production.

51:16Jason Moore:No neighbors. Well, it did this last week, two touchdowns.

51:18Andy Holloway:Yeah, I meant yards. I would throw Theo on my bench. I'll take Mason Taylor over. And you probably go Theo over Tonjes McBasketball just for long term.

51:33Mike Wright:Oh, if you were looking long-term on a flyer? Yeah. I don't look long-term at tight end unless it's like two or three names, including Juwan Johnson. I'm just going to play the best player that week. Things are changing so quick.

51:45Jason Moore:I would agree, but if you're doing the thing where you're playing Juwan Johnson one week or Zach Ertz one week or Mark Andrews one week, at that point I do think Mason Taylor and Theo Johnson, those guys should be picked up as a second tight end in hopes that they can in their early career, a rookie and a second-year player, develop into the number two target for their franchise.

52:14Mike Wright:Defenses this week, there's quite a few that have good matchups. The Patriots have the Saints in New Orleans. Hope you stashed them. Playing great. The Colts have the Cardinals at home. The Browns are actually Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has the Browns. That's the one that I'm more interested in. although you can play both sides of it i like the pittsburgh side more it's in pittsburgh their defense has been outrageously good for two consecutive weeks and they get the face of rookie and dylan gabriel they didn't move the ball tremendously well they they had what they

52:46Andy Holloway:scored two times so i was saying it's a 37 and a half yeah i like i like both sides but i like

52:51Jason Moore:i like pittsburgh way more yeah i um i mean there's so many teams the rams had such a bad outing last week but they go to baltimore that is snoop yeah snoop dog you're gonna do it again

53:04Mike Wright:pro bowl uh the las vegas raiders play tennessee by the way and they're gonna put pressure on cam

53:08Andy Holloway:ward all day long yeah i'm i'm perfectly fine with the raiders so that would be another one

53:14Mike Wright:and then just keep an eye on your league for the packers if they were dropped on the buy

53:17Andy Holloway:because they play cincinnati and they're favored by 175 points i'll take you know you're gonna

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53:47Mike Wright:well this could be me this week i i don't know depending on what kyler murray i you probably shouldn't be in my lineup anyways but what happens with this foot we'll see streaming quarterback options for the week. You need a spot start. There are some good ones out there, I think. For me, it's insert 49ers quarterback. I think the matchup against Tampa Bay and the fact that they can't run the football the way that they've been running it in the past. You've seen good fantasy weeks from Mac Jones, good ones from Brock Purdy. Whoever starts for San Francisco is my stream of the week.

54:16Jason Moore:Yeah, I'm going to go with Matthew Stafford. He's leading the entire NFL in passing yards right now, and he gets the Baltimore matchup that we just saw C.J. Stroud go ham. Man, they have

54:25Andy Holloway:I know there are injuries it's just it's sad to see.

54:29Jason Moore:If Stafford gets to play a college team which right now it feels like you're just playing backups it's pretty easy. You look at what they've given up on the season they let Patrick Mahomes score three more points than his average. Stroud scored more than his average. Everyone who plays him has basically done well except for the Lions and Stafford's been pretty on fire I think the Devontae Adams around the goal line has really helped his fantasy output

54:53Andy Holloway:and if you need to get a little bit nasty with your streaming quarterback Bryce Young is playing the Dallas Cowboys and the Dallas Cowboys have been allowing lots and lots of points above expectation uh to opposing quarterbacks and they are in fact dead last and expected points per pass attempt and the I mean that Leggett the Leggett throw and touchdown I thought that was that was legit that was like a good play and ted roll mcmillan is i i think we're about to see percolating i think it's about to go off if you want ted roll mcmillan you need to go do it before this weekend against the dallas cowboys i think this will be the where the window closes on any sort of of uh affordable offers yeah it's been it's been frustrating because he makes plays

55:45Mike Wright:every week that are like he looks so good man he looks great but then you know bryce young looks so bad so often and he does he just he hasn't scored yet yeah that's really at some point

55:56Jason Moore:it is really crazy i mean you you talk about uh it's not like bryce young has thrown no touchdowns but he's on pace for 1200 yards and it doesn't have a touchdown right now i was gonna say right

56:07Andy Holloway:now tett mcmillan has six fewer yards than davante adams like he's 14th in the league right now at wide receiver. He's playing very, very well. Just needs some touchdowns.

56:18Jason Moore:14th in yardage? Yeah, in yardage. I'm curious, what his fantasy, do you have Ted Oroa, like what his wide receiver or what right now in the season? Just overall raw points? Yeah, just like raw points. Is he in the top? 27th. Okay.

56:32Mike Wright:Okay. Well, that'll do it for today's episode of the show. We are redrafting the first two rounds in fantasy tomorrow. Fun. We have a Thursday night preview. We've got backup options. We've got mailbag and we'll get into all of that on tomorrow's episode of the podcast thank you for supporting the show head over to join the foot.com for access to the ultimate dashboard and all the other perks of being an official foot clan member that's join the foot.com we'll catch you tomorrow goodbye thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast

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