Fantasy Football - Week 7 Studs & Duds + Bo Namath, Monday Punday - Podcast for 10/20

11:33Mike Wright:I guess what I mean is that every week we've come in here, it's seven weeks, expecting it to have happened the previous week. Yes. Whereas, yes, other rookies all have hype, right? none of them have played but you get a taste sure and we haven't that's what i like there hasn't been that moment in the regular season for travion there's just the hope that it will come next week it's the rational coaching it's the all of those things and you look at the numbers from this

12:01Jason Moore:week oh and i don't know i don't even know if it's terrell jennings or terrell jennings i don't know how to pronounce his it is an undrafted free agent um uh running back who got the same amount of snaps as Travion Henderson got congratulated after the game of being like we've got our five

12:18Mike Wright:minute back by Mike Rabel yeah I mean the snaps in week seven 49 for Ramondre nine for Travion the carries 18 to two the routes 29 to five that would be the most surprising one where you're like hey this is supposed to be the special yeah sauce and then the targets two to nothing so it is wild

12:36Jason Moore:though like like i mean there are it feels like two things one of two things has to be true either they made a bad pick right and travion henderson is not very good or they spent really important draft capital on a guy that they are just not involving who's good so i i don't know what it is for fantasy purposes you you have to move on yes yeah i think it is a

13:04Mike Wright:cut situation. Yeah, I agree.

13:05Jason Moore:I think it is a cut. Now, if you are Mike, if you are a believer in the film, you really loved him, you still see... If you want to roster him, roster him. I'm still rostering Caleb Johnson, who... I mean, Travion Henderson's at least on the field. Right. You know, call your shot. But you don't need to roster these guys. These guys are, you know, wait and hope that they become a waiver-wire pickup. They're 5-2 now? The Patriots? Patriots are 5-2, I think. Uh, yeah, that's correct. Yeah, they've won four in a row now.

13:37Mike Wright:And I think three of those on the road, which is a... That is three in a row on the road. If you want to talk about how coaching impacts a football team, Mike Vrabel. Oh, Vrabel's so good. I mean, Mike Vrabel and Ben Johnson. I'm going to say that. I want to give a shout out to the Bears. Four in a row for the Bears. And same story. Totally different. You watch the postgame speeches. You watch the way the team... I mean, Vrabel got a game ball from Drake May this week for beating his former team, the Titans. You watch the way the locker room acts, and then you watch the way the Cardinals execute at the end of a football game.

14:13Mike Wright:That could be 7-0. And they're 2-5, and they're going into the bye, and they may say goodbye to Kyler. I don't even know. So here we go. We got news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by Progressive Insurance. I wish that, because Jason, you know, you look like you were a certifiable guaranteed loss this week in legal record and you're not now. Yeah. I wish that there was some sort of like fair and equitable way.

14:44Jason Moore:To undo the trades that we made that ruined me?

14:48Mike Wright:No, I'm fine with the trades. Oh, okay.

14:49Jason Moore:Because I traded for Darren Waller from you and he got me zero and I traded for the Steelers and they got me negative one. I replaced Zach Ertz and the Rams. Yeah. I would have beat you Mike I would have beat everybody not for Andy Holloway it changes everything I was going to say from this point on

15:10Mike Wright:I don't even know if I want to say it anymore but Mike was I think you called Jason Winey this morning and what I was saying is if Jason happens to win this week I wish there was just some machine that would punch him in the face for every time he said he was going to lose I would take that you would?

15:27Jason Moore:I would 100 % take that I'll take that like I took$400 from you. Yeah, okay.

15:32Mike Wright:So we made a bet that I said the Cardinals would beat the Packers, right? And I said I was going to go put it in on DraftKings. And I'm like, dude. Or somewhere.

15:41Jason Moore:The Cardinals are not winning that game. Do the bet with me. I was like, let's make a$100 bet.

15:45Mike Wright:The money line was plus$300. So I'm like, he's like, let's just do it. I'm the book.

15:49Jason Moore:Yeah, he's like, well, I don't want to bet with you because I'm going to get odds on the book. And I'm like, let me be the book. I'll give you the same odds. I'll give you$300 if we lose.

15:58Mike Wright:So we do the bet, and about Cardinals have a big lead, and he's like, I'm going to send you$300 right now, so later you have to send me$400. So it feels worse. So he sends me Apple Pay,$300, and then the Cardinals blow it at the end of the game, and then I send him$400. I got$400, guys. And he goes, man, that's a lot you just had to send me. All right, we are stupid. We're into the news. Pukunakua expected to return to the lineup in two weeks after the bye. That's good news. Mike Evans and Abuka for tonight are questionable. I had this. I mean, yesterday was a lot of football, okay? I'm watching the night game.

16:36Mike Wright:I even posted it in our channel. If you guys hear anything, Abuka, let me know. That's because my brain thought there was another game. I thought I was in Monday night when there's the double games. I'm sitting there going, why haven't I heard anything about Abuka? Being active or not? Yes, I was freaking out. It's tonight. And he has a real shot to play, according to Adam Schefter.

16:53Jason Moore:That's great. Evans is really expected to play. I know he's a game-time decision, but not really. So he's active, essentially. And then Ibuka, that'd be really surprising but awesome if he plays. Now, are you worried about him if he plays? I am.

17:09Andy Holloway:I talked about him on Sunday Live. And so just my personal take on it, if I have Ibuka and I had someone who was a decent option, that's the way I would go. It's really difficult to not do the start your studs. but to be a game time decision with the hamstring, I mean, chance of re-aggravation extremely high. Chance that he is just a decoy out there. We've seen that so many times with guys who are like, they're game time decisions, they're stars, so you've got to play them.

17:42Jason Moore:Chance this game has 60 points scored, though.

17:45Andy Holloway:I know. It's a very, very difficult personal decision.

17:49Mike Wright:Let me give you an exact decision because there are people that certainly waited and are waiting on him tonight. And the alternatives, let me give you two. Okay. Jaden Higgins. Christian Kirk is out.

18:01Andy Holloway:Yeah.

18:01Mike Wright:Jaden Higgins, alternative one.

18:04Andy Holloway:Okay.

18:04Mike Wright:Alternative two, Tez Johnson.

18:07Andy Holloway:I'm not playing him. I'm playing him a Buka over Tez for sure. Okay.

18:11Mike Wright:So a lot of people going into Monday night, I think, with those two from the same team.

18:15Andy Holloway:I think I'd play a Buka over both of those. If you had waited, I think I'm going to – should he be active, I'd play him over the other two guys. It was just a, if you give me the whole Sunday slate, I would have done that. Abuka could have a great game. I'm freaked out by it.

18:31Jason Moore:At this point, managers have made their decision. If you're waiting, you've waited. And then if he's active, you play him. If he is inactive and you have those two pivots, so if Abuka's not playing and you can either play Tez or Higgins, that's a really close call. I lean Higgins out of the bye. I'd play Higgins over Tez. Yeah, it's just that game script. That Detroit-Tampa game, that should be awesome. Should be.

18:58Mike Wright:Jaden Daniels left early with a hamstring injury, getting an MRI today. So Jaden Daniels could miss some more time. Bryce Young.

19:06Jason Moore:That's a weird one, too. I don't remember a hamstring injury on a tackle. Maybe it's common, but I don't remember that. He was running. Did you see him running on the way to the locker room?

19:17Mike Wright:Yeah, he jogged to the locker room. I was like, oh, he's going to be fine. He gave a thumbs up coming out of the blue tent.

19:22Jason Moore:Yeah, but he was injured. The thumbs up was, yeah, it hurts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does it hurt?

19:27Mike Wright:Yes. It hurts badly. Bryce Young left with an ankle sprain now determined to be a high ankle sprain. He is going to miss some time. Andy Dalton, who loves him some Xavier Leggett.

19:41Jason Moore:Yes, he does. Xavier Leggett was five catches, seven targets from Andy Dalton in that brief stretch. How did Tommy Trimble work out? Dude, I was only 15 and a half yards away from hitting.

19:57Andy Holloway:Okay. Okay, you were real, real close. How did you feel every single catch that Leggett had, Jay? So every catch that Leggett had. Nine for 92 with a touchdown. Currently the wide receiver 11 on the week.

20:09Jason Moore:He was very good. I hope this becomes another Devontae Adams where it's like you think a player stinks a couple years into his career. And then it's like, wow, he turns it on. Because I was a believer in the – what was it? North Carolina? I forget what. Not North Carolina. South Carolina. One of them. I was a believer in that weird fifth-year breakout. I thought his tape was great, and I really liked him. And that's why I have such disdain for him as a wide receiver now. It's because he let me down.

20:43Andy Holloway:So, I mean, like what I'll be doing with Henderson here in the moment.

20:46Jason Moore:You're going to hate his bones.

20:51Mike Wright:Michael Penix Jr. appeared to suffer a leg injury late into the Sunday night loss. Ankle got rolled up on, probably fined on Tavian Wick's calf injury.

21:04Jason Moore:Yeah, read this one, Andy. Darren Waller left early with a pec injury and did not return.

21:11Andy Holloway:That's not good. He's getting an MRI on it. We'll see.

21:17Jason Moore:Oh, man, that went south.

21:19Andy Holloway:Hopefully he's okay because that could be it.

21:21Jason Moore:Yeah, if he tore his pec, that could be a season ender. If it's just a pec strain, then great. Then more ramps.

21:29Mike Wright:He's going to ramp the ramp. He's great with ramps. I've had a weird touch with sending players away from my team this year. You truly have. I traded Burrow.

21:39Andy Holloway:You just pull the pin.

21:41Mike Wright:You're like, shink. And then you hand the other guy the grenade. I mean, I traded Debo and Bill Krosky two weeks ago. Yeah. That team isn't pleased. I traded you, Darren Waller. You're not pleased. And the Steelers. I traded Brees Hall. They're not pleased. Burrow. It's like a post-trade Reaper thing going on. It's wild. If I trade them directly to my opponent that week, they do well. That's playing against you, yeah. Kendra Miller left early with a knee injury. Kendra.

22:10Jason Moore:Kendra. His body. This was supposed to be your revenge game, and you proved it. His body doesn't like football. Do you think on the other sideline, Dennis Allen was like, yeah. Oh, yes. Classic. That's him. That's so him. I told you guys this was going to happen this game. That sucks, though.

22:29Mike Wright:Paul Komet left with a back injury. Oh, I did not realize that. That one's significant if Colston Loveland is going to be out there more.

22:35Andy Holloway:Yeah.

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25:01Mike Wright:Before we jump into our studs and duds, it is important that we take a moment and reflect on the most insane thing that happened again this week. We have a chopped. Oh, my gosh. It's impossible. We have a chopped guillotine style league. Seven days. And there is a team. Now, I am still in this league. Do you want to know why? Yeah, I know exactly why.

25:24Andy Holloway:Because you haven't watched the tape yet.

25:27Mike Wright:Al Borland, who I will put on camera right now. Al Borland has how many points in the league? Like were you, I mean, it's a 17 team league on the beginning. I was the top scoring team in the league so far. On the year? Yes. Yeah, just not a one. 17. Averaging like 12 points more than at any other game every week. At Puka Nakua's on your team. All you have to do is not finish last. To not get shot. And you picked up who'd you pick up this week? I got a steal on Brock Bowers. What was it? Like 36 bucks on a thousand dollar foul. I mean Jason paid 500 and something for him. Yeah I did. So Jason you had Brock Bowers.

26:06Jason Moore:I picked up Brock Bowers. So the guy got chopped who had Brock Bowers which was surprising.

26:11Mike Wright:So that's one chop. That's one chop. Bauer's been chopped one time.

26:14Jason Moore:So I was like, I'm going to go. Oh, the person who drafted Brock. Yeah, the person that drafted him. I'm going to spend up. There's only one Brock in the league, so I'm going to spend half my budget, and I got Brock and got chopped.

26:24Mike Wright:You're done. Yeah. You're chopped. And then he went back to the. He went back to the wire.

26:28Jason Moore:Got picked up for a couple hundred bucks? Yeah,$250 something. Chopped. Chopped seven days later. Then we made a joke that no one wants to get him. He almost went unclaimed. I mean, 31 bucks on Fab in that league is nothing.

26:43Mike Wright:Out of$1 ,000.

26:44Jason Moore:Yeah. And then. Yeah. I think that week his backup went for more than that. Yeah. Mayor. Yeah. And you got him on your super team. Chopped. Seven days. You're officially chopped? I'm not officially chopped. I need 34 points from Monty and Laporta tonight. So you're chopped. If I get those, then you're chopped. Yeah. But you don't. Oh. Wait, wait, wait. I'm second. Oh, no. But I'm getting chopped. Let's be real. That's awesome. So I can't wait to watch waivers next week and see, like, does anybody touch him? Yeah, because he's going to be tempting. Yeah, he's going to come off the bye. He should be healthy.

27:19Yeah, exactly. I could use Bowers. Pay up. I'm tempted. I mean, obviously, everyone should be going after Brock Bowers on the waivers. Unbelievable. Seven days. Seven days. Seven days. Let's talk some studs. This week's Fantasy Stud Muffins. Presented by Lowe's.

27:40Mike Wright:I, again, Bo Nix. Bo Nix! Bo Nix with, I think, the most fantasy points for a Broncos quarterback in a long, long time.

27:47Andy Holloway:I believe it's the second most. I remember the Peyton. Behind a Peyton game. Peyton had seven touchdowns. And Bo Nix, over 40 fantasy points and... Had less than four points when he was going into the fourth quarter.

27:58Mike Wright:That's insane. Less than four? Yeah, it's a terrible game. They were shut out. This is why I picked it to begin with before I unpicked it. Because sometimes our offense doesn't show up. They just look inept. Bo Nix looks terrible. The offense looks terrible, which is what they did the entire game. And Bo Nix is the number one fantasy quarterback on the week by a wide match.

28:17Andy Holloway:I mean, long term, I don't even know what to make of this. But next week, Bo Nix gets Dallas.

28:26Jason Moore:That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. Man, they are. I've said this several times. I said this yesterday. day my favorite part of the national football league in 2025 is the dallas cowboys defense

28:38Mike Wright:that is my favorite thing to watch it's not bill it's not bill's favorite oh man that well yeah there's there's issues there we'll talk about that in another segment justin herbert in a barn burner i mean that game that game seemed like an unmitigated blowout and yet you kind of thought the chargers are going to come back the entire game because herbert was what 400 plus passing

29:01Andy Holloway:yards Bo Nix and Herbert similar thing just the game script hit in the best possible way for them and I'm it's I mean it's it's it's insane to me how a team can just be so inept and then they're like hey guys we're down a whole bunch let's just throw the ball they know exactly what we're doing and then it works but Bo Nix and Herbert from the fantasy grave up there and I mean we didn't even

29:28Jason Moore:bring up that in that in that game in that wild game there were for both teams touchdown passes thrown and caught to not the player it was thrown to like popped up tip other offensive guy caught it Troy Franklin got a touchdown that was not targeted to him yeah it was yeah it was it was

29:47Mike Wright:absolutely a crazy game um Jackson Dart third on the week it worked out against Denver um it did

29:57Andy Holloway:I mean, he's been crushing for fantasy. It's just, it's. And he will. He'll continue to. It feels so weird, though.

30:03Mike Wright:He has done a really, really good job of moving around, not just running, but moving around the pocket and escaping kind of early career Russell Wilson, where I've seen him just kind of. Some quarterbacks have the ability to sense pressure around them without staring it in the face and falling down. Kyler Murray. And so Jackson Dart moving around, making throws. You got to remember, he doesn't have incredible weapons in this receiving

30:27Jason Moore:I had that thought the whole game. Like, man, if he had neighbors. Oh, my gosh. I mean, this is an exciting core going forward. But it's funny because when I say it's an exciting core, I mean three players. Yeah.

30:41Mike Wright:Right now. Shout out to Wondale. Doing your best. Matthew Stafford and Patrick Mahomes finish out the top five. Stafford, five touchdowns on the London game.

30:50Jason Moore:Yeah. I played against the Stafford-Adams stack in the league. And I was like, I think my team did good. But I don't know. I didn't check again after that London game.

30:58Andy Holloway:Eight touchdowns against me. Kyle, I don't know if you can try and vet this real quick, but 182 passing yards for Stafford with five touchdowns. That has to be close to something that's never been done before. Devontae Adams. I mean, Devontae Adams had three touchdowns. It was like 30-something yards, right?

31:19Jason Moore:Yeah, I think he was in the 30s.

31:20Mike Wright:All three of his touchdowns were one-yard touchdowns. Oh, were they? I think all three of Adams were goal lines.

31:26Andy Holloway:I mean, it's just that is, for fantasy, that's a bad beat if you played against Stafford.

31:31Jason Moore:Also, Patrick Mahomes has been playing fantastic football. He really is good. And we saw this years ago. Now that their offense is actually chugging along and their team looks great, when they get around the goal line, this has been his entire career, but we've kind of missed it the last few years because they just haven't been scoring as much. Their willingness and frequency of tap-pass, I mean, it's a run play. It's a run play that scores a touchdown that gives fantasy credit to Patrick Mahomes. He's going to get those throughout this season, and that gives a nice boost. It's almost like how we talk about the baseline of a rushing quarterback.

32:09Jason Moore:It's like when you get around the goal line, you can have – he's the only quarterback that reliably you can say they can have rushing touchdowns that he gets to get a passing touchdown.

32:17Andy Holloway:It's so fabulous to have – when you have a team that is dominant as long as the Chiefs have been, eventually we turn on them because you're like, I'm tired of it. And especially the way that they have won the last two years, three years where the offense is just – watching a Chiefs game was horrific. Like, this is – I'm so thrilled. So thrilled that they're dominant. Their Super Bowl odds have to be, like, the number one. And it's great.

32:47Jason Moore:I like the Chiefs again. Yeah, I wasn't mad at the dominant 2007 Patriots because they were awesome. It was so fun to watch them put up 50 points over and over and over. But did you know on this side of the turn of the century, the highest points per drive since the turn of the century, it was those 2007 Patriots. But now, at least so far this year, it probably won't stick, beating them is the Indianapolis Colts. Oh, really? I thought you were about to say Dallas. No, no, the Colts are, they're just. Cooking. They're cooking.

33:28Mike Wright:Yeah, Daniel Jones is the quarterback, six in total fantasy points on this season. Five is Drake May. Three is Jalen Hurts, who had a big week. And two, Dak Prescott. Yeah, man. I mean, Dak.

33:41Andy Holloway:He's playing so well.

33:42Jason Moore:He's playing really, really well and gets CeeDee Lamb back. George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb, that is a. . . And the nice thing is over 70 % of the targets were consolidated. It went to Pickens, Seedy, and Ferguson. And Ferguson got two touchdowns. He did. Oh, this is like exactly what you dream of for fantasy. Consolidation of targets on offense with a great quarterback and no defense.

34:05Mike Wright:A terrible, terrible defense. Give me that. Running back top five of the week. Hmm. Hmm. Christian McCaffrey. Oh, yeah, baby! Woo-hoo! 35.6. And he learned how to run the football again. George Kittle. George Kittle.

34:23Andy Holloway:And this was a great defense they played. The fact that George Kittle had his first game ever without a catch is, like, that's unbelievable, and that sucks. But George Kittle being back for Christian McCaffrey, I didn't think it would do this for the running game, but it was like, holy crap, Christian McCaffrey can run again. And if that is unlocked with all the targets, It's – you're at the point now where I think it's fair to say

34:56Mike Wright:even if he gets hurt from this point forward. Right. It's a good pick. It's probably a great pick.

35:01Jason Moore:Yeah. Jonathan Taylor. No one's out there 0-6 right now with CMC. No.

35:05Mike Wright:They're probably all 5-2 or better. Jonathan Taylor, number two, he is a machine. Yes. I mean, it is. You just talked about points per drive. You mix that with Jonathan Taylor, a functional offense. This was the number one fantasy running back in years past. We know what he's capable of when the offense isn't completely inept or led by terrible quarterback play. They are just such a different team right now, and he is scoring so many touchdowns.

35:30Jason Moore:He came into this week having been vultured by Daniel Jones three times near the goal line, yet he was already leading the NFL in touchdowns, and then he added three more this week. He is unstoppable. They were from further out, weren't they?

35:45Andy Holloway:Not all of them. The vultures? No, no, no, no, no. Taylor's touchdowns this week. One of them was near the goal line. It's like the two-yard line.

35:54Mike Wright:It's kind of an incredible touchdown pace right now. Quinshawn Judkins was a bounce-back start of the week, 26.4 fantasy points and looks amazing every week. DeAndre Swift, ho-hum, were back in the top five. Even with Monongah getting work, even Roshan was on the field.

36:15Andy Holloway:Yeah, the Saints, that was a tough game for them. But last week with just doing things differently with DeAndre Swift, it seemed like they had figured something out. You weren't sure. But back-to-back weeks of actually being effective on the ground is very exciting. Also, let's talk about Josh Jacobs.

36:36Jason Moore:He is so good. And you saw how bad the Patriots were when he wasn't on the field. They were spelling him through this game. He only played 55 % of the snaps. That's his lowest by far. 55! By far of the season. You know, he's usually, he's got a game of 88, 78, 79. And then he came in with that calf issue, and so they were sparingly using him throughout most of the game. And it clearly was hurting their offense against the Cardinals. And towards the very end of the game when they had to score, they're like, all right let's just let's be real here we need jeremy was pointing that out he was at the game

37:15Mike Wright:rooting for his packers and um also all of the other friends of his in packers uniforms were at the game because the cardinals were on a silent count the entire game at home yeah you know what

37:28Jason Moore:good take that like that that's what you get but the thing is is that doesn't hurt the bid while sold out he's like yeah yeah sell those tickets to packers yeah that's that's fair i'm just saying

37:39Andy Holloway:the people, us fans, who you spent your money, your hard-earned resources and your time, it's like you got to recoup some of that. It's like, hey, be better.

37:50Mike Wright:Yeah, yeah, yeah, make me not want to do that.

37:52Andy Holloway:Exactly.

37:53Mike Wright:But Jacobs was amazing. Javante Williams, 18.3 fantasy points. So those were your top five on the week. I saw so many people were complaining about Bijan. Tons of puns about. I couldn't put a Bijan pun in when you have 52 and a 1. bad oh yeah yeah oh yeah all bad negative all negative because he here's here's why and i i

38:14Jason Moore:know this you know i'm a bijon manager and in the dynasty league yes he was the running back eight okay yes he had a touchdown oh my goodness yes he had almost 100 yards yeah not good enough okay this is you with christian mccaffrey of old where you were upset when he'd have a three touchdown game because he could have had five in that game you watch you you want more you want you want There was a lot of dissatisfaction.

38:40Mike Wright:It's not fair. No, I didn't put it in there because I thought it was wild.

38:44Andy Holloway:Because he was great. The Falcons were stinky doo-doo on offense yesterday. The fact that Bijan gave you a top 10 game when the whole team stunk.

38:58Mike Wright:The Falcons need to be played with confidence at home. Michael Penix at home seems like where you can be confident right now. uh jalen warren was your start of the week he had a great week cam scadaboo continues to get it done had the touchdown uh on a great catch and run where he followed his blockers ramondre stevenson 18 for 88 and a touchdown and the guy the guy in new england like it or not it's the way it is and he actually ran well in this game and then pacheco he will play

39:32Jason Moore:Cleveland next week. It's actually a tough stretch. Cleveland is great against the run. Atlanta has been a good defense at Tampa Bay. You can't run on them. I don't know if you sell high right now because he is that guy. He's getting the workload and it's not going away. We talked about that going into this last week. Our confidence in Ramondre but it will be a tough schedule coming up.

39:55Mike Wright:I don't think anybody's going to buy Ramondre. Pacheco though, 15 for 57 and a touchdown it was nice to see him do something uh kareem hunt went out briefly in that game and he's been kind of phased out a little bit more on the on the snaps wide receivers top five jamard chase devante smith a.j brown chris olave devante adams so um jason you got backed into playing chris olave i did and you end up with the fourth highest performance of the week yeah yeah um but A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith they got it done both of them yeah I mean A.J.

40:34Jason Moore:Brown multi-touchdown game and got outscored by Devontae Smith who had his career high in yardage uh it was nice to see I mean the running game isn't doing for the Eagles what it did last year and so if you have to throw the ball you know they can this is why we you know you don't you don't just assume it's always going to be bad when great players who have been great in the past are

40:56Mike Wright:still together yeah they they two of the big plays for aj brown came on fourth down situations that they just kind of threw it deep well one of those i mean i don't know i don't know how

41:10Jason Moore:you you had i feel like he stood in the pocket for 12 seconds and there was no pass rush it was like no they couldn't get to him at all he's just looking around it's like i don't want to go there don't go there let me have a cup of tea hey uh aj brown go go long mike you said you wanted to

41:26Mike Wright:see it again i did keenan allen 14 targets 11 for 119 and one yeah but this was not a normal game i do want to bring that up because it's like if this is the first game of the year you're going to have that whole like i buy into justin herbert every week situation you can buy in if you want it's just been what twice out of seven weeks that you were hyper happy was this enough mike was this seeing enough from keenan allen that you start him now uh or are you taking a breath i i'm gonna

41:55Andy Holloway:to take a breath and see what's going on but he had a good game right i think they all did so

42:00Mike Wright:huge yeah keen and let's not forget the true breakout of the game oh man a ronda gadsen yes who had i believe nine catches for 164 yards in a touchdown if it is possible to trade a second

42:15Jason Moore:round pick in a dynasty league to get him i would do it without a wow the the eye test on gadsen He looks so good. He looks like Prime Waller or something. He looks like a – he looks like – don't hear what I'm not saying. If you're going to say it, then I'm going to hear what you're saying. Okay. I'm going to hear what you're saying. He looks like A.J. Brown. Like size, speed. Okay, I know what you're saying. Like athleticism. Like he's running so fast and he's so big. This is a rookie. So we – you know what I mean?

42:49Mike Wright:With pedigree.

42:50Jason Moore:With pedigree. and he is on a good offense who I know they've got a lot of weapons and that's the downside here. And we'll talk about this way more on tomorrow's episode, where does he rank and waiver wire or whatever. But I am a believer. I'm bought in. I don't think it's always going to be great because this ball, there's too many places for it to go right now for the Chargers.

43:11Mike Wright:Yeah, 55 pass attempts helps a lot.

43:13Jason Moore:That's why I mean in a dynasty league where you're looking long term where maybe Keenan's not going to be there. I think this guy's legit. He is showing flashes that you just don't usually see at the position as a rookie. So, yeah. And we saw, I mean, Will Disley has been really important for fantasy over the last couple of years with Justin Herbert. I don't know about that. For our show, he's pretty important. He's had a lot of good weeks. Hit the button. Big Montana. Yeah. Whenever we can, we do. Will Disley. Yeah. Yeah. real important yeah to us well i just mean he's had a lot of relevant games and he's you know all jokes are he's well disley like you're not super excited it's not a superstar

44:01Mike Wright:i did mention this guy i said i think it's coming um travis hunter 14 targets there are eight for 101 and a touchdown two sides to this coin one it was like all garbage right

44:16Andy Holloway:right not all a lot of it was yes a lot of it was but but you had to follow the trend with hunter

44:23Mike Wright:63 percent of snaps then 74 then 74 then 88 then 90 i'm sorry route participation and the other side of the coin is the underwhelming drop addiction of brian thomas jr oh

44:37Jason Moore:i thought you were going to say the snap counts on defense well i don't know they were ramping

44:42Mike Wright:his offensive they wanted him to be integrated into the offense and we talked about it last week on the show you can't really if you're not in the practice room for all of this and you're trying to acclimate they committed to the offensive side of the football yeah I don't I don't know if

44:54Jason Moore:he played defense in the fourth quarter but I know going into the fourth quarter he was at zero snaps uh okay so only 14 snaps on defense this week so he he was a full-time offensive player I mean that's what you you know I felt like this is coming man they need him and Thomas is hurt

45:12Andy Holloway:I mean the like you saw you left with a shoulder you were like at the end of the game it was just a a DB jammed him in the shoulder and I mean he went down uh so I I don't have any further news I don't know if anyone's seen anything but it was it was troubling yeah so Travis Hunter had zero points at halftime so I mean it was it was a bit garbagey but by week coming up and then the Raiders after that Travis Hunter at least there's hope there's optimism yeah it's exciting and then

45:44Mike Wright:Jason you brought up Rashi Rice as an immediate start of the week seven for 42 and two you know only 19 routes run in the game by Rice targeted on more than half of them that's ridiculous so more to come for Rashi Rice and the way the offense is playing Xavier Legette nine for 92 We talked about him. CeeDee Lamb right back out there. His touchdown was so weird. I mean, it looked like two guys running in the same spot. He just grabbed it and ran it in slowly, by the way. He was really setting himself up for a drop the ball before the end zone.

46:17Jason Moore:CeeDee, it's a little excessive. And there were a couple of bad tackles in that game where he called himself off afterwards. I am going to be worried every time this guy gets tackled all year. So scared.

46:27Andy Holloway:Welcome to the Christian McCaffrey experience.

46:30Mike Wright:And then Michael Pittman took advantage. So did, I don't know why Alec Pierce is not in here. Alec Pierce, I believe, had 98 yards receiving, something like that.

46:40Andy Holloway:He was, yeah, five for 98. Both those guys. He was our nasty boy.

46:45Mike Wright:Yeah, there were a lot of those guys in that tier of, like, opportunists, right? We knew that Josh Downs was going to miss this game. Pittman with the touchdown, the short area targets, Pierce downfield constantly, something to pay attention to. Pierce had played well before the concussion. We'll see if Josh Downs is healthy. And then we already talked about the number one tight end on the week, Jeremy. Aranda Gadsen.

47:10Jason Moore:Why is this a Jeremy thing?

47:12Mike Wright:Because I sent him a trade offer with him. Aranda Gadsen. And he's like, I don't even know who that is. But Pat Fryermuth with the crazy game. Gadsen number one. Fryermuth number two. Gadsen number one. Trey McBride number three.

47:28Jason Moore:Get that man a quarterback He's so good

47:32Mike Wright:Two spots below Gatson And then Jake Ferguson Trey McBride maybe who that trade offer is for There's another player Of course there has to be I'm sorry There's another player involved It's not a bad offer Although I might be able to pull off that one for one Jake Ferguson and Daniel Bellinger Rounding out the top five You had two touchdowns by two different Giants tight ends in this game. We talked about they don't have a lot of weapons. That's an area where, you know, Bellinger almost had two. He probably should have had two. He dropped one. Tyler Warren keeps getting it done. Four for 69 and a touchdown.

48:13Mike Wright:Nice game. He's very good. Tucker Craft into the end zone. Ten targets.

48:18Andy Holloway:Yeah, I love the ten targets.

48:20Jason Moore:Feed that man. And he was off the injury report. We can't forget that he was injured. Yeah, he was dealing with it. He kind of came back and didn't look great off the injury report and looked great.

48:29Andy Holloway:And I will mention it cautiously. Juwan Johnson had the same thing, where Juwan Johnson had gotten hurt weeks ago, was on an injury report, and is like, oh, dude, it's absolutely done. And then he was still participating the same amount, and he had a decent gink. He didn't make – I don't think he even cracked this list, but he was very serviceable.

48:53Mike Wright:By the way, Travis Hunter had zero fantasy points of the half. Yeah, that's what I mean. So it was all second half. They got whooped by the Rams. They look like the London games, man. Worked out for the Rams. Yes. I mean, one team, they're both playing it. I mean, it's wild. We'll take a break. We'll talk duds.

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51:00Hooped in his big boy pants.

51:04Mike Wright:There were, I think, three quarterbacks that people tried to play some this week that were also a lot of the negative pun-related comments. Caleb Williams is actually at the top of that list because he was 15 for 26 for 172 and no touchdowns.

51:25Jason Moore:No rushing yards either, which is usually, like, so far this year, that's really given him a nice baseline. But they didn't manage this one. Yeah, he was a manager.

51:33Andy Holloway:They ran the ball 40 times. Yeah. I mean, that's just a – that's unfortunate.

51:39Mike Wright:It's just the way it went, which also means we'll talk about a dunze. But Jordan Love, 19 for 29 for 179 and one against Arizona. His consistency score, which is a score we have on the player profiles on the fantasyfootballers.com. It is a way of looking at the last 17 games they've played and what percentage of those games they exceed what we consider a good baseline for a position. 17.6 % of the time he's over 20 points, which is an F. and if I watched that game and I wanted to learn something from it, it was going to be that Josh Jacobs is your offense. That's what I would learn from that game is that the more they leaned into running the football, the better they played.

52:22Andy Holloway:It's so disappointing. I thought he would be much better this year.

52:26Jason Moore:His weapons are pretty disappointing. I mean, Tucker Craft was good, but Tucker Craft is a tight end. Tucker Craft is not a Travis Kelsey in his prime. He's good. But it's like you don't want your offense running through just a good tight end. They don't have Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed is not there. Golden is not that dude. I mean, not yet. He's still young. He's a rookie. Maybe he can develop into it, but he's not that yet. Christian Watson hopefully coming back. I think he will be back next week. Maybe that helps. And Dobbs is a fine player. But, you know, it's like if you swapped Dobbs and Josh Reynolds or Kendrick Bourne.

53:04Mike Wright:Oh, that's so exactly right. It's just another. They all have fine player on their trading cards. Yeah, absolutely. He's a fine player. NFL professional athlete. Professional NFL wide receiver. Yeah, and then it doesn't get much worse than what you've seen on the field from Justin Fields. Oh, no. Justin Fields was 6 for 12 for 46 yards before being removed.

53:27Jason Moore:He has six games on the season. Let me tell you his fantasy points in those six games. 35, 33, 33. three, six, and five. Hey. You want to talk boom? Yeah, first. Yeah, boom or bust. But the problem is, who cares about the fantasy points? Watching Justin Fields play, and especially play without weapons to throw the ball to, is torture.

53:55Mike Wright:It is torture. He's so bad. Did you guys see who's the new defensive coordinator of the Lions is? Aaron Glenn. Next year. He is not lasting more than a year in New York.

54:08Andy Holloway:I brought up – Fields was talked about a good amount on Sunday Live and in the show last week, and it was like Fields without Garrett Wilson, the Jets can't do anything. Fields needs him. So games when Wilson is active, if Wilson is removed like he was in that Denver game, then nothing will happen. So Fields – I mean, one, Fields may not have a job. Oh, yeah, yeah. He shouldn't. Tyrod is a better player. There is a strong chance that Justin Fields is just flat out benched. But should he keep his job, he is off the fantasy radar until Garrett Wilson is back.

54:49Mike Wright:This team is going to be so bad, and it's going to get worse. Because at least Fields could have an exciting single play where he ran the football. but I think they're going to move on from Brees Hall. I think he is definitely going to get traded. He was 11 for 38 in this game. He had two targets. He got hurt and came back. Ends up 50-50 snaps with Isaiah Davis, who you should pick up because Brees Hall is going to get traded or probably get traded. He wants out so bad, and I don't blame him. You can't go anywhere worse. Ashton Jinty, 6 for 21 in a butt-whooping of all butt-whoopings. These teams didn't belong on the same field together.

55:35Andy Holloway:It's going to be tough for him, too, because you get Jacksonville. One, you get a bye week, so that's nice. Recover, keel up a bit, but then you get Jacksonville and Denver. Two good defenses.

55:45Mike Wright:Kyron, it was just unfortunate. He had a goal line opportunity, got stuffed, and then they threw it to Devontae Adams again because that was basically their version of the tush push. Just throw it to Devontae Adams in one-on-one. Good to see Jacksonville learn to leave him in one-on-one three times. That was genius. you got it this time guys I mean goodness Ja 'Cory Kroski Merritt this one is 13 for 33 you even saw some McNichols and Chris Rodriguez later in the game well you saw you saw McNichols

56:20Jason Moore:because McNichols is the pass catching back right not last week well last week he wasn't even he wasn't even on the field when dallas got out to a big lead and i feel like there is a little bit of game script worry the archetype of jacori krosky merit is one where it's like this is a a lowly drafted guy who um doesn't have like a predominant pass catching background he's looked good he's had some juice on some runs this is why you know early in the season we were very very skeptical uh all the bill fun jokes aside it was you know we would we would talk about how you know he can do no wrong but then actually say you got to be careful with that when you're a lowly drafted prospect it's not always going to be great and this is also you know for dynasty purposes that this team needs a running back they need a real running right so long term i don't think he's their future even if he has a good rest of season there's no commitment chicago and dallas

57:18Mike Wright:were the make or break games for Bill.

57:21Jason Moore:Yeah, for all the...

57:22Mike Wright:And he finished with 5.3 and 3.7 fantasy points.

57:26Jason Moore:And the next three weeks is the Chiefs, tough to run on. The Seahawks, good defense.

57:31Andy Holloway:Detroit, tough to run on. If Rico only had his success because he was playing against Dallas,

57:39Andy Holloway:then what do you say about Bill?

57:42Mike Wright:Yeah. It didn't last for Kamani Vidal. Well, the work for 20.

57:48Andy Holloway:Honestly, he was the guy. He was the main running back. It is the charger game went weird and it turned into we have to throw it a ton. Five targets is great, but game script wise, he just didn't get anything going.

58:02Mike Wright:Let's have another conversation here. Travis, it's the end junior. Eight for 44. That's not bad. Just eight carries, though. outside the top 20 for three straight weeks it was so hot to begin but does it come back to

58:21Jason Moore:yeah it comes back this is a so he's still getting the utilization you want to see now at the end of the game you might look at this and say oh he didn't get the utilization but at the very end of the game they they had um you know two in the in the game as they were getting blown out um he is their primary back this was a bad game is a bad game and it's been a tough stretch but it's also we we just brought this up uh with bill the schedule of like going to kc and uh the seahawks and detroit well the last three games for travis etn was kansas city and the seahawks and the rams now they go to buy when they come back out he's got a little bit easier schedule he is projected for zero on the buy though so he's more of a i think you start him every game but your expectations Okay, that's what I was going to ask.

59:07Andy Holloway:Will he be a matchup choice?

59:10Jason Moore:So because he would be a flex type of option, like on my roster he would be my running back three, there's definitely a world where I could start another wide receiver over him in a bad matchup. But I don't think he is like a you can only play him in a good matchup. Because any time that there's a PI in the end zone, you can walk away with a Travis Etienne touchdown.

59:33Mike Wright:He scored more fantasy points than this guy. seven last week, four this week. Saquon Barkley. Oh, man. Oh, man. 18 for 44 this week in a game that they dominated. RB 17 on the season. But the last two weeks have been especially painful. In fact, really the last five. Because you had an RB 11 finish, but then it's RB 31. So seven single-digit fantasy points in three of five games. Let's just leave it there. People want to have the conversation. I don't know what the conversation leads you to. You don't bench Saquon.

1:00:14Andy Holloway:The big plays are currently not happening.

1:00:17Mike Wright:Do you trade him with the name?

1:00:19Jason Moore:No, I personally don't. Would you rather have Jinty? This is the time where I think if you have him, you hold him. If you talk about trades, this is the time where you can trade. You could trade for Barkley and probably get him affordably. Not like you're not getting him cheap. he's still got the big name but i think so you'd trade javante for him no would i trade javante williams for saquon barkley yes i would i'm just trying to think what affordably means and that was a perfect that's a perfect example so you would rather have javante just seven weeks in

1:00:51Andy Holloway:man uh and javante said what one one dud pretty much hey no oh give me that dallas offense jason would do it. Mike would not do it. Andy

1:01:01Mike Wright:would what? Host. You coward! I think I'd rather I think if I was in that situation I'd rather have Saquon. I mean would you trade Kyron away for Saquon? No. Judkins?

1:01:16Andy Holloway:No.

1:01:17Mike Wright:DeAndre Swift?

1:01:18Jason Moore:Yes. I would. No one will probably do that. That would be

1:01:21Mike Wright:your affordability. Possibly.

1:01:23Jason Moore:If you could trade Swift for Barkley I would do it.

1:01:26Mike Wright:Yeah I mean you're not there's not a lot of other names really out there.

1:01:31Andy Holloway:um we didn't talk about rico did we no we no we haven't talked stats of the rico chuba split no yeah i guess um because he didn't he doesn't fit in either category it wasn't like an it wasn't a terrible game he's a top 20 running back as of right now there's still two games so he might get knocked out but he was 17 for 79 one for 17 through the air so i mean not a not a special game but he got to 10 points without scoring. The duds? He was better than Chuba.

1:02:01Jason Moore:He was way better than Chuba, but it was a splits game. Yeah. I mean, 50-50 basically.

1:02:06Andy Holloway:So if the coach is going to run it like this, it's going to. And I believe they are. I believe they will completely run it like this.

1:02:14Mike Wright:There's quite a bit of correlation between our wide receiver duds and those quarterback duds from earlier. Roma Dunze just two for 31. Jalen Wadda one for 15 from the worst quarterback we've seen in a while right now. Two is playing so terribly. three more picks brian thomas jr three for 31 got hurt um you had matthew golden we talked about the bad game for jordan love golden was four for 37 never been targeted inside the 10 yard line this year uh so that's not good and then the sky fell for kendrick bourne yeah two for 14 joan jennings didn't do much the other duds dk metcalf we talked about it at length reacting to the thursday night game so maybe focus more on Tett McMillan who was a bummer man it was a bummer but it was a little bit of a it was flagged on this show like yes he scored twice last week he was in the 30s in yards last week so you're two straight weeks where he's in the 30s in total yardage it's I mean we're getting to the halfway point of the season I don't know if we just lean on the talent or we adjust expectations because quarterback change is happening.

1:03:28Mike Wright:It might be better for the receivers. It also is a variable. We just don't know what the outcome is going to be. If I were Carolina, I'd lean on Dowdle and Chuba. So it's just a little bit of a tier adjustment in my mind right now for Tett. Maybe that's not fair. You tell me.

1:03:46Jason Moore:I think it is fair, but I am still a believer when I watch the film, I don't see anything that looks like he's doing wrong. I see separation. I see, you know, he's playing for the Panthers. It's not working out very well. Maybe the quarterback change is positive. I would love to have Ted Oroa on my fantasy team. So if I could acquire him cheaply, I certainly would.

1:04:09Mike Wright:Well, there was an A.J. Brown tech conversation weeks ago. I'm assuming that is off the table now.

1:04:13Jason Moore:Oh, for sure. That's not going to happen.

1:04:15Mike Wright:As in you would not trade A.J. Brown for tech, you're saying?

1:04:18Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, A.J. Brown has... Because I think you sent that offer out and got rejected. I did.

1:04:23Mike Wright:And did. And probably for the best. George Kittle, Goose, Goddard, close to it. Didn't get into the end zone, just three for 18. Go Dallas Goddard. Meowth and Taylor.

1:04:37Andy Holloway:I fought against the Dallas Goddard. You did. I was like, no, no, I can't do this. And then finally I'm like, okay, I'll play Dallas Goddard. You did, and then now it feels bad.

1:04:49Mike Wright:Meowth and Taylor. Yeah, moused. five targets three for 31 we talked about like it's not possible for him to produce when your quarterback throws for 40 something yards yeah just impossible hunter henry four for 33 harold

1:05:03Jason Moore:fannin this was a bummer four for 36 throw this away the the harold fannin so you look at the utilization it is everything you want with njoku out this was a bad weather game so like on prize picks I took the two quarterbacks went less you know it was it was easy um the bad weather to me I would love to start Harold Fannin next week okay they will uh not be blowing out the New

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1:05:43Jason Moore:And we didn't really bring him up much, but if I could trade Travis Kelsey for something right now, I would absolutely do it. Travis Kelsey was my biggest worry from the Chiefs, and he had a big broken play. It was a broken coverage, he was wide open, had a nice long play. He had 9 % targets in rushy rice's first game back i mean that is that is an abysmal number rice wasn't even a full-time player yeah so he he's the one that has always been my big fear of can rice and kelsey both get

1:06:21Mike Wright:it done i think it's bad days ahead for kelsey tomorrow's a waiver show we have our um optimized ultimate dashboard available to you at join the foot.com custom waiver wireless for every one of your imported leagues. We support tons of different leagues. We support tons. We support tons of leagues. You can check it out at jointhefoot.com. Become an official Foot Clean supporter. Waiver show tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Big decisions to be made. How much does Aranda Gadsden go for? Goodbye.

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