Fantasy Football - WR & TE Rookie Preview + Best Landing Spots - Podcast for 4/2

13:03Jason Moore:Terribly scary, and whoever you don't like, like the Jets and the Browns are the two teams that desperately need wide receivers, have a ton of capital, and will take a wide receiver. You're just hoping it's the prospect you don't like.

13:17Mike Wright:Yeah, well, the Jets, the Browns, and then Miami, Miami now having lost Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell and Darren Waller, they have 11, 30, 43, and four third-rounders. Miami's going to have multiple new wide receivers on this team. And then other teams to watch out for. What do the Saints do? They've had to deal with Olave's injuries over the year. They definitely need somebody beyond him. They have picks 8 and 42. 8 is a prime spot for maybe one of the big names. Washington at 7. Baltimore at 14 and 45. Maybe less of an option there. And then do the Giants try to add somebody? You know, you talked about their – we talked about the running backs and the Giants probably not drafting a running back.

13:59Mike Wright:We don't think they'll draft a running back. But five could be a prime spot or a place to trade down a little bit and grab a big name. Could be. Mike, did you have a team or two that you think – like are you super afraid of any of these?

14:11Andy Holloway:I mean, I think the Jets – it's going to be the usual suspects. It's the Jets and the Browns. I think the – if I'm trying to spin a tale of glass half full for the Jets, it would be if your guy goes to the Jets, just know next year it will be a completely clean house in terms of the coaching staff. They'll probably have a top pick in a very quarterback-friendly draft, so maybe you're going to have to wait some time if one of the studs goes there, but there is a chance it gets better in two years. Now do the Browns. oh oh this year right now i can tell you that as of right now the only quarterback putting in the work is should do her i believe he changed his number he did he went back to number two but no we're good did you not there was a report from that monken has connected with watson they've talked a little bit should do her is in the he's he's here every day he's working and Dylan Gabriel is not here.

15:20Mike Wright:What a small little blip that career is going to have.

15:23Andy Holloway:Because this guy, because he knows. He's like, I'm not wasting my time. He has no chance. I'm just going to collect this check for the next couple years and then I will be gone.

15:30Jason Moore:As of right now on the NFL Mock Draft database, the rhinoceros site, there are six wide receivers currently slated in the first round. Six? Oh, we're not getting six. You could. I mean, right now, obviously when people are putting out their mock drafts, sometimes the skill position players get bumped up in there that they don't in the NFL. But that's the point of like when looking at this year, I think the running back three are guaranteed.

16:00Mike Wright:And then I would say probably four or five, at least one more after the big three. Let's start there. carnell tate jr from ohio state is the first name we're going to talk about six two one ninety two um five-star recruit coming out of high school dynamic playmaker you know when you look at him and like makai lemon you know he has the size advantage uh over makai lemon carnell tate is number three on jason's pre-draft rookie rankings at wide receiver number two on mike and eyes

16:32Andy Holloway:they're flipping all over the place honestly these three guys for me I've just and Carnell Tate this one's pretty easy he's from Ohio State they have just been blessing the NFL with very talented wide receivers even the ones where you're like hey Marvin Harrison Jr. it feels like a catastrophe his rookie year he had 800 yards and 8 touchdowns it hasn't worked for our purposes but for the NFL Ohio is giving out awesome players he will be the fifth consecutive buckeye wide receiver drafted in round one and wide receiver you and that will continue again next year so the he is he's a he is a tremendous player the thing that's hard to reconcile for fantasy football is he wasn't a true target dominator the way that we have that like jsn's year before he he got hurt like we want to see those types of things like we for a production profile threshold for the wide receiver position we want to see for a for a player who's going to like truly dominate in the nfl you want to see about 31 of that team's receptions go to that player or more of course and Tate was down at 21 % for a player who's going to go as early as he will.

17:54Andy Holloway:I think that Tate will be the first wide receiver that goes in this draft. I don't know that he's the best for fantasy football purposes.

18:06Mike Wright:You have a concern that he'll come in and be not a dominator at the NFL level but just a solid wide receiver?

18:13Andy Holloway:When you're looking at these three players, which they're all pretty different, so it's kind of like you can kind of pick your type, your archetype of player that you like because the way that Carnell Tate plays and Makai Lemon plays, they're very different. But when you're picking at the top of your rookie draft and you're trying to make a decision other than destination because all three of these guys are going to have very early first-round draft capital, So it's you look and go, man, why wasn't he commanding more receptions?

18:45Mike Wright:This would be the lowest target per route run percentage over the last decade for a top 10 pick if he goes in the top 10. And he's very polished.

18:55Andy Holloway:He is a great player. Yeah. So I'm not trying to cast any shade or doubt upon him and his career for the NFL. We're trying to find an advantage of these three players. Yeah.

19:05Jason Moore:I've got him as my third of the big three currently pre NFL draft obviously that you know can get shuffled around later but it's not it's not saying he's not very good I love Ladd McConkie coming out despite him having a bad production profile because you said well he was playing with Brock Bowers right this is that situation he's playing with you know we say we say that we say that this year doesn't have a jamar chase doesn't have one of those like the elite of the elite next year does yes and he's currently playing on carnell uh tate's team so you forgive some of that production

19:41Mike Wright:yeah one of the high-end comps that kyle jotted down was the ball skills of t higgins route running of calvin ridley um the big question is can he be that alpha in the nfl is there a best fit from those teams been named earlier in your mind where you would get excited about carnell tate arriving in camp is it what if it was new ornans let's put it that way i'd be pretty excited eight for tate seems great nice that's right i liked it uh i yeah i think the saints actually that could that could work out where olave is you know can dominate some intermediate stuff and and

20:17Andy Holloway:have tate come in and for at least for the team wise it's like you you had rashid jahid replace that type of a player you want him but as you want him to be better than Rashid Shahid for fantasy football when you're spending the 102 to 104 on him he has met with Tennessee

20:33Mike Wright:Washington Cleveland so far Washington definitely needs another pass catching option yes so them

20:38Jason Moore:that would be that would be the most exciting spot for me he is most commonly mocked to the Browns at six which I don't know if that'll happen or not but okay that would stink well we're going to take a quick break and come back talk more rookie wide receivers what's up foot clan you

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22:59Mike Wright:All right, time to get into another rookie wide receiver. Let's talk Makai Lemon coming out of USC a junior he is the snake oh is it you talking about the press conference kai lemon um 511 guys 511 he fits the smaller wide receiver profile that um we've seen have more and more success at the end of the level Jason's height no we're not 511 no yeah no we are I'm so glad I thought you I thought we locked this thing in he may never he's done he's done That was on the main show, right? That was on the main. It was a height fight. All right. So listen, guys, we went to the - Oh, my gosh. This is nonsense.

23:43Mike Wright:We went - This is nonsense. You were there with the tape measure. Shoes off. So here's -

23:49Andy Holloway:Against the wall. Here's what had to happen. If you missed it - I'm out of here. We were having the conversation - I can feel it. About guys that are six feet or taller, and then guys who are 5 '11". Frequently, if you're 5 '11", you'll just - I'm six feet. which I don't do because I'm 5 '11". And Jason was declaring how proud he was to be in the crew. He was like, no, I am legit 5 '11", but I don't round up. I tell people on 5 '11". And then we just kept going. I'm like, wait, Jay, are you actually 5 '11"? Or is this just a ruse?

24:20Mike Wright:Jason has been getting us for years with this whole – I take the noble approach of not being six foot.

24:29Jason Moore:Immediately when you're like, well, let's measure you. Did I hesitate? No, you did not. I'm like, great, shoes off, let's go, because I'm 5 '11". We measured, and it came out 5 '10 and a half.

24:41Andy Holloway:A little bit under a half. Yeah, it wore like 5 '10 and a quarter.

24:46Jason Moore:No, it was not.

24:47Andy Holloway:It was 5 '10 and 3 '8". 3 '8", okay. Oh, come on. We can give them the half. I mean, no.

24:54Mike Wright:Yeah, we can round up to the half.

24:55Andy Holloway:He has to round down.

24:56Mike Wright:Oh, man, this is ridiculous. I mean, if you reshape your entire life with a 5 '10 mentality, how does that go? I'm freaking. I'm shrinking.

25:02Jason Moore:I'm shrinking, guys.

25:03Mike Wright:You were 5 '11"? I was 5 '11". I'm shrinking.

25:07Jason Moore:Okay. They're not making tape measures like they used to. Or you're not marking the wall spot appropriately. Existing regulation or what? We used it square. You can still move that up and down. We got one of those things on the wall where we mark it every year, but over the last couple years, it's gone down. Well, Jason. Anyways, me and Mekhi Lemon. Mekhi Lemon.

25:29Mike Wright:5 '11". He was the Blitnikoff winner. massive production 1156 yards 11 touchdowns in his junior season um he's awesome i love he is

25:41Andy Holloway:absolutely awesome dog mentality i like mckay lemon and i just i'm all in man i think he is going to be great he production dominator at usc we love to see that uh across the board receptions, yards, touchdowns, dominator rating, and he's not just a slot wide receiver. He can play on the outside. He's not a prototypical ex, but I think in today's NFL, he can work very, very well.

26:18Jason Moore:He's very well-rounded, good route runner, great hands, tough as nails. he's one of the i i feel like it's a much more rare trait to watch wide receivers that are hard to tackle you know that's not even a skill set you need at wide receiver anymore most of the time when you're hard to tackle it's because you're a you're gigantic you're right you're dk metcalf or aj brown where it's like yeah it's it's hard to tackle those guys yards after catch yeah but that's not makai lemon makai lemon is 5 11 under 200 pounds and he's still just like he's hitting people he's definitely not not everybody is amanra not everybody is golden tate

26:59Mike Wright:that would be the the hopeful comparisons yes it is makai lemon the the one thing that kind of stands out to me that maybe has a little bit of concern you look at breakout age it's something

27:08Jason Moore:we pay attention to his was a little bit older which sucks for wide receivers that is a yeah you don't want to hear what i'm gonna statistic yeah yeah i mean the the first round wide receivers

27:19Mike Wright:since 2015 that have later breakout ages than Lemon. It's not a lot of them because his was pretty late. But it's Kadarius, Tony. Okay, not great. For a minute. First round wide receiver, right? Xavier Leggett. Oh, these are all first round. First round, oh. Kelvin, Benjamin, Henry, Ruggs. That's the stat we're reading. The best two were Waddle and Ayuk. But Leggett, Benjamin, Ruggs, and Tony were the others.

27:44Jason Moore:Kelvin Benjamin had a great rookie year. It's not a death knell of a stat, but it is breakout age is extremely important for wide receivers. When they break out later, it is usually a red flag. However, even when we were scouting these players, like Kadarius Toney, when he was drafted in the first round, I was like, what are you doing? He's not a first-round talent. Xavier Leggett, his late breakout age, he was 48 years old after going to school for 20 years. That was another one that's like, Like, what – Mekhi Lemon is better than those players coming out of college.

28:22Mike Wright:Yeah, I don't know what to believe. Again, it's going to come down to these – you know, you take the talent and the output of these players at the collegiate level, what teams believe about them, and then do you have a shot with some of these quarterbacks at the top of the draft? You know, Mekhi Lemon could be one of those guys, I think, that maybe slips a little bit further than some of these teams were most afraid of.

28:45Jason Moore:I think he might go in front of Tyson. Oh, he'll go. I think he will go in front of Tyson.

28:51Mike Wright:We'll get into Tyson. People have concerns about injuries with Jordan Tyson.

28:56Jason Moore:It was funny when the combine was happening and the interviews were going on, if you don't remember or didn't see, Mekhi Lemon had the weirdest interviews, the weirdest press conference, just looked weird, acted weird. It was bath salt level. Yeah, I mean, super weird. Okay, maybe that's too much. I don't think it's that much too much.

29:17Andy Holloway:He wasn't running nude down the streets of Miami.

29:20Jason Moore:Yet. But there were reports coming out that some of the team interviews were, like he bombed his interviews. And the teams were like taking him off their board. So I don't know how truthful that is, how sticky that was.

29:36Andy Holloway:Or moving him up the board. Yeah, I know.

29:37Jason Moore:It's like, oh, he bombed my interview.

29:39Andy Holloway:I would never draft him. You should never draft him. What are you picking? Here's one of the points I'm making, though.

29:46Mike Wright:Most recent mock draft that I'm seeing right now has Carnell Tate going as the highest guy, and it's Cleveland, right? It's always. That's a lazy one. But then what I'm saying about Makai Lemon dipping is like, okay, 11 to Miami, I really like that destination. Miami, whoever is drafted by them, and they can take the pick, they're walking in as the alpha. They just come in the front door as the alpha. So 11 to Miami would be great. In this case, they had Jordan Tyson at 13 to the Rams. But if you flip-flop those, let's say Miami fell in love with Jordan Tyson, and then Makai Lemon's a Ram. You're talking about a bright future.

30:19Mike Wright:If you go to one of those teams that's not at the bottom.

30:24Jason Moore:The Rams are where I've got him currently kind of penciled in.

30:27Mike Wright:16. The Jets have the pick at 16, too, which that might be their first offensive pick. If one of those three guys is at 16, they're gone.

30:35Andy Holloway:That's an interesting philosophical question of, okay, so let's say Lemon goes to the Rams and Tyson goes to Miami. You're like, do you want immediate target share or eventual or do you want someone who is, he is the wide receiver three at best for the entire of entirety of the year. Unless Devante Adams gets hurt.

30:59Mike Wright:Yeah. I mean, that's a brutal one because Puka is going to sign a long-term deal barring more bath salts for Puka.

31:05Andy Holloway:But I'm saying like this year it will be Puka and Adams. Adams isn't long for the team. Did you guys see the note? They were pretty open and honest with him. They might have traded him last year. They thought about it, and then they changed their minds. About trading who? Adams. What? Yeah. Oh, I did not see that.

31:25Mike Wright:And then they were in on A.J. Brown in discussions. They're in on all these draft opportunities.

31:30Andy Holloway:So you would have to wait on Lemon to be the dominator.

31:36Mike Wright:Yeah, it's weird because the Rams are where you want to be, and it seems like they have things figured out at wide receiver, but also they might not. Because Adams is going to be gone soon, and Puka just stay with us.

31:49Jason Moore:I view the Rams as a good destination. Hook me up with Sean McVay. Yeah. And I know you're going to have a top half offense moving forward. And some toffee. So that's a win to me.

32:02Mike Wright:Jordan Tyson. He is my number one wide receiver. breakout age was 18 he's 6 '2 203 he is dealt with injuries I mean last year he only played nine games at ASU dealt with injuries the year before and missed I believe the Texas if not the entire game he missed I think he missed the entire game against Texas in the in the college football playoff that went down to the wire that Scadaboo took over to me he's the most versatile and skilled wide receiver of this class I've got to watch more of him than I have the other guys over the last few years but like I said he was 1110 as a junior injured last year played nine games 7-11 and eight to me he has it he has the type of it factor that I saw from Justin Jefferson immediately in terms of his body moves differently than other wide receivers.

33:03Jason Moore:Oh, his body control is awesome for a guy his size. When you're 6 '2", 200 pounds, and you can do in the air what he does, it's just a thing of beauty. He's all three of our wide receiver one. He is third on this list today because he's usually not the number one being drafted. But coming at it from a fantasy football perspective, it's tough to know for sure if Carnell Tate can be the true alpha target share dominator in the NFL since he wasn't on his team in college. But Jordan Tyson was his team's alpha, and he should be drafted to be that type of player, a bigger guy that can be used around the end zone and can have a 28 % target share in the NFL.

33:51Jason Moore:So that projection is probably why I'm guessing all three of us have him currently listed as the wide receiver one. But he's not without concerns. He did not have a lot of missed tackles forced.

34:03Andy Holloway:And the injury history. The injury history, contested catches is not an area he particularly, like he's not elite at that. And, you know, he's 6 '2", 200, which at 6 '2", you wanted to put on a little bit more weight, which, I mean, he definitely can.

34:25Mike Wright:I mean, Tate's listed 6 '2", 192.

34:28Andy Holloway:Right. Yeah, both of those guys could put on a few. And Tyson, though, when it comes to, like, press coverage, he's wild, man, because he can off the line. He has some particular moves off the line where he just makes defenders look ridiculous as they end up in a different area code, and he ends up wide open. But if they can get their hands on him, it can be tougher for Tyson. So he needs to improve at things. But, Jason, you said it well. We're looking from fantasy football. If all three of these guys hit, I think Tyson's archetype is the biggest hit for fantasy.

35:08Mike Wright:that's about where I'm at I mean C.D. Lamb vibes a little bit Devontae Smith but with 30 more pounds vibes a little bit he's very slippery I mean I think that's the way that I I watched a lot of his routes at ASU and it was like getting in and out of breaks in a different way than other receivers do it so whether those injury fears impact draft class I mean that mock draft I just looked at it was Tyson to the Rams it was the good destination that Jason talked about so So those are the big three names that we know are going within probably the first 15 picks of this draft.

35:41Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, once you get past the top 15, they will be saying on the broadcast that this player is slipping and he's a good value, is the highest player left on the board type of commentary. If any of those three you're saying, yeah.

35:53Mike Wright:Who's our next name? Omar Cooper, Jr.? Yep. All right, Jr. out of Indiana. Indiana so Mendoza national title uh winning wide receiver uh talk to me about the things you like you saw from him 13 touchdowns during that run to the championship under a thousand yards so his yards per catch a little lower than the a couple of the guys above but um great at forced miss

36:18Andy Holloway:tackles yeah that's great at it that's just the calling card he's I mean he's he's good against his own coverage and he's a you know when he when you get the ball in his hands he he like he makes people he can make people miss he can absorb contact like he is a very uh he's a very solid player and he but that's that's my question for him is is will he just be solid because when you're when you're that type of player you know the the comps that people are throwing out for Omar of like the hope. He's like, hey, Debo. But putting the name of Debo Samuel on anyone is just unfair. Yes, it's not a fair expectation because...

37:02Mike Wright:What about DJ Moore?

37:03Jason Moore:I think that's the actual hope of play style that I think he could get to. He is not as good a wide receiver. Yes. He's not as good a wide receiver coming out as DJ Moore was. I actually think Luther Burden is a pretty good comp because when I watched Luther Burden, what was so awesome about Luther Burden was once he had the ball in his hands he was absolutely electric and I wasn't as confident in his full you know route tree and and just the actual wide receiver package coming out of college that's kind of how I feel about Omar Cooper Jr. you watch this last year and they were like we've got to get the ball in this guy's hands and so so many of his plays 28 screens were screens but 28 were screens there were so many plays that were three four yards down the field where it's like you act like you're running a nine and then stop

37:57Mike Wright:and i don't know if those go in yeah 70 out route yeah yeah so between the two you're you're up over

38:03Jason Moore:four in the 50 that concerns me for is he ready to come in as a fully developed perfect wide receiver. Daniel Jeremiah has him as his 18th ranked player overall. That is above Jordan Tyson at 21 right now. So he loves him. And I will say there is a lot to like about him. Personally, I've got a few worries simply because of how much of it was just kind of manufactured touches versus him getting open, creating separation. It was like all deep or short. And I like the middle of the field stuff. If you're going to really dominate in the NFL, you've got to be a possession guy that's going 15 yards down the field getting open and catching that and that's just not where it's not saying he can't do it but he didn't do that as much he has

38:50Andy Holloway:he's one of the later risers and I think there was some questions about is he gonna go into the draft I can't remember exactly what happened there but he he was trending as a third round pick on mock draft database in January. And now he's up into near the middle of the first round.

39:13Jason Moore:Omar Cooper has been flying high in mock drafts and big boards and those type of things. He is certainly trending upward.

39:24Andy Holloway:I wonder if the mock draft has got some info.

39:27Jason Moore:When I watched, and this isn't anything against Omar Cooper Jr., but Elijah Seurat, I liked him better. Really? Yeah, so that's his teammate there. I like his path better. Kind of got significantly better every year and dominated and transferred and transferred and transferred to just prove he could do it and then win the national championship. This guy, loyal, great. He was at Indiana the entire way, but it felt like it took him a long time to be relevant.

39:58Mike Wright:He was 961-13 last year, but 10 catches, 207-4, came in one game against Indiana State, which jettisoned all those numbers northward. We'll take a break, and we'll get into some more names.

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42:16Mike Wright:It's time to talk about Denzel Boston. 6-4, 2-12. Denzel Boston out of Washington.

42:29You know, four years in Washington.

42:32Mike Wright:So we're going back-to-back loyal wide receivers here. Dominated man coverage. I believe the majority of his touchdowns came in that environment. But what were your reactions to the tape on Denzel Boston, another name we've seen go very, very high in mock drafts?

42:50Andy Holloway:I am terrified of Denzel Boston because he is in the archetype of a player that I don't like. Yeah. I am in the exact same boat. Really? Yeah. We have not talked about this. He is the type of player who that type, your success in college comes from this, from being a bully. I mean, he's a big dude. Yeah. And there's, but you're a big dude. You're the BMOC. and then you go to the NFL and you are no longer the big man on campus. Everyone is bigger than you. I don't gravitate towards that type of a player, and yet I really like Denzel Boston. I brought it up on the Dynasty show, Jay, but it was like your quote of talking about Xavier Leggette of like, it's not going to work.

43:44Andy Holloway:Don't pick him, but I'm going to do it. that's how I feel about Denzel Boston my historical avoidance of these players has led me in the correct path most of the time but I'm very drawn in to his play style

44:01Jason Moore:he's tall and he's skinny he had some incredible games dominated some games unfortunately I felt like he disappeared sometimes I didn't go game by game to see the reasons why on whether they were winning or losing or up or down as I'm grinding the film. But I would agree with you that the archetype doesn't usually work. He is going to be highly drafted. He's going to be a first-round pick. You want me to tell you a team? Yeah.

44:30Mike Wright:I'll give you a couple teams to connect to the dots with Omar Cooper. With Omar or Denzel? Well, both. I was going to say, I'm going to give you one for both. I want to just give you some, because sometimes it just helps to put some teams to the name. Omar Cooper, in this last mock I'm looking at, went 26 to the Buffalo Bills. Oh, man. And Denzel Boston went 27, the next pick to the San Francisco 49ers.

44:52Andy Holloway:Oh, man.

44:54Jason Moore:I would love the second. I would actually not like the first that much. I just feel like we'll turn him into Khalil Shakir.

45:03Mike Wright:Well, it's funny because Cooper, you're like, oh, he reminds you of DJ Moore, so let's play together.

45:07Andy Holloway:The Buffalo Bills is the siren that will always steer our fantasy ships into the rocks. It's not going to happen. Well, they don't need

45:17Mike Wright:to lean on one dude. That's the thing. You can be worthy of it there and they don't do it. But Boston,

45:25Andy Holloway:he's met with San Francisco, by the way. His production profile is solid, especially because of touchdowns. Just a dominator there. But it's just, can it translate to the next level? And his athletic testing which we don't get carried away with athletic testing it's fun when it's awesome but his was pretty poor for a player that's going to be drafted in the probably drafted in the first

45:53Mike Wright:round shall we move on yeah casey conception now we're talking junior out of texas a &m

46:01Jason Moore:which is an atm machine problem here because casey is just his initials so the c is conception

46:10Mike Wright:in the case and you want to point this out off the jump yeah so we need to get it because his name so his name is kevin conception conception yes case case case case case case case case yeah it's like automatic teller machine machine yes um top 40 hits this last mock i'm looking at has him going at 24 to your Cleveland Browns um oh no they have picks all right Kyle loves Kyle loves him yeah Texas A &M six foot 196 um twitchiness galore he so he more reminds me of

46:51Andy Holloway:if we're making that comp of like he is just he gets open he like he he's handling press coverage pretty well he is just an absolute menace and but also a menace are his hands as he drops a lot of passes he has uh you know we've you see it every once in a while just like the player who they can make the most redonkulous highlight difficult level catch you're like that's incredible that's And then the wide open layup, bink, right off the hands. So he needs to get that under control. Drops, if you haven't been playing fantasy football for a long time, drops honestly are not a huge – it's not a really big – like Mike Evans has had drop problems in his Hall of Fame level career.

47:47Andy Holloway:So I'm not overly concerned about it. What is it? Yeah, Amon Ra. I mean, Amon Ra led the NFL in drops this year. you can also drop more passes when you're getting targeted a bajillion times when you've established yourself you can get away with it but I really if it weren't for the drop problems I might have him in my top three I think he is great

48:12Jason Moore:you just alluded to it but drops really shouldn't be that big of a deal they're something that is not a super sticky

48:20Andy Holloway:and there are concentration drops of maybe a coach can get in his head about it

48:25Jason Moore:Yeah, I mean, the opposite of Omar Cooper here, this is a guy that I feel like I did see in the middle of the field a lot. I saw him as a much more complete player. Returned punts. Yeah, used on special teams a lot, which we love when someone is used on special teams. It shows that the coaching staff is like, they really need to have this player on the field in space because people can't get him.

48:47Mike Wright:He's not a universal first-round pick in Mocs. I mean, I've seen a lot of them where he's just on the outskirts of the first round, first five picks of the second round. are teams going to view him as a starting outside wide receiver? Are they going to view him as somebody that comes in? The best comparison I can make is the way teams can use Rasheed Shahid where you're like, you know that guy's amazing, but you're also more gadget, you're more special teams, you're not necessarily looked on and relied upon to be your every down star. I guess I'm just curious if he's got to find the right connection with a team that believes in him for fantasy purposes to take the next level.

49:20Jason Moore:I think we're going to find a lot of the same going forward. now that we're past the top three guys, which is essentially this is a good wide receiver. Whether he is a fantasy star, it's like a lot of these guys you're hoping for a Christian Kirk type of fantasy career where it's like Christian Kirk has done really important things in fantasy. He's been a top 24 wide receiver. I think he was a top 12 wide receiver one year, which we forget. Was he? I think so. Vet me on that one.

49:48Andy Holloway:You're throwing out wild accusations here, man.

49:50Jason Moore:Yeah, but he doesn't feel like it because he's never really. He was in Jacksonville. That's right. So that's like always my comp.

49:59Andy Holloway:Yeah, he was a sleeper in the UDK that year.

50:03Jason Moore:Tell me more about this UDK, Mike. What does that stand for? It's an ultimate draft kit. That sounds like the ultimate draft kit. You should get it at ultimatedraftkit.com. But I think Casey Concepcion is a very good wide receiver. You can call him Kevin if you want.

50:19Andy Holloway:But he wants to be KC. Does he want to be KC or is KC – do we have to add on the Concepcion to make sure everyone knows that we're talking about it?

50:27Mike Wright:Oh, you're saying you can either go KC or you can go Kevin Concepcion. What if the Chiefs draft him?

50:33Jason Moore:I don't want to not say KC, KC, Concepcion. Okay. That's like Michael Pittman in Pittsburgh.

50:41Mike Wright:Last four mock drafts, destinations, Cleveland, Cleveland, Buffalo, Miami at 30. Oh, Miami would be perfect.

50:50Jason Moore:Cleveland, go away. Cleveland is going to ruin someone. Go away. This is what I'm saying. You just hope. Like Malachi Fields. Yeah, he's perfect. Take him. Yeah. Perfect. He's that archetype where he just is the, he's bigger bully ball, got older than all the little kids and bigger than all the little kids and just dominated and it probably won't work in the NFL. And so it's like that. Look, Cleveland. He's awesome.

51:15Mike Wright:They have a lot of fields in Ohio, too.

51:18Jason Moore:Yeah.

51:18Mike Wright:Do you know what I mean?

51:19Jason Moore:Perfect. You've got to have the name match where you're going.

51:22Mike Wright:Nowadays. Nowadays is the only way to succeed. All right. We'll move on. We've got a couple of tight ends to talk about. So let me ask you this first, though. There's a lot of other wide receiver names. We obviously were not exhaustive. If you want to get into more names, you can listen to the Dynasty show to get deeper. Chris Brazell, Chris Bell, Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama, who's on the other end of a lot of Ty Simpson success. Malachi Field, Zach Branch. Is there somebody you're in love with?

51:51Jason Moore:I really do like Elijah Surratt. That's the teammate. Do you know what I called him? No.

51:58Andy Holloway:Sriracha? If he gets hot in the league.

52:01Jason Moore:If he gets hot, Sriracha sauce. Yeah, baby.

52:04Andy Holloway:I promise he's never heard that. No, you just made it up.

52:09Jason Moore:That's all you, Mike. That is really good. I think he's good. Jeremy Bernard, the wide receiver from Alabama, is another one of those real, solid, quality receivers that you're like, probably not a fantasy star, but will be fantasy relevant.

52:29Mike Wright:Those are all names, like every name I just said, including Surratt, Skyler Bell, Ted Hurst. They're all in the top, like, 82 projected picks.

52:36Jason Moore:Yeah, and that's great draft capital. That's a team being invested, saying we are having this player on the field from the beginning. And the truth is most of these players are legitimately good enough to be drafted there and be solid wide receiver twos in the NFL and hopefully wide receiver three plus in fantasy football. Last name I'll just throw out. Zachariah Branch is a very interesting.

53:05Andy Holloway:The screen god? Yeah. He was like 50 % of his targets are at the line of scrimmage.

53:11Jason Moore:This was like. No thank you. No, it's bad. He has absurd acceleration. It's kind of like you don't want to whisper the Tyreek Hill. Right. Because he's not. He's smaller than Tyreek. But it's got that same level of crazy burst. Instant acceleration. Instant acceleration. So he will be very interesting. I'm curious where he goes. and people are very, very, very high on him and very, very, very out on him.

53:47Mike Wright:All right, we've got to talk tight ends, guys. We've got two names to bring up. Some teams looking for the tight end position. Miami, they're looking for everything, and they've got every pick. Tampa Bay, maybe. Carolina, the Eagles, we'll see. But let's talk about the cream of the crop. Kenyon Sadiq, junior out of Oregon. um just unbelievable ran a 439 at 632 41 let that sit yeah dude i don't what do we do with this guy

54:23Andy Holloway:you're talking about how he only had 560 yards yes like this is not this isn't kyle pitts production wise right this this is a kyle pitts athlete who 6 3 240 which 240 is actually i mean that's savior production for the nfl that's what i say it's a little lighter but you he ran a 439

54:46Jason Moore:he is that that's not physical freak of nature a physical freak you're talking not like uh he's he's better than all the other athletes and he's going to be a top 15 pick in the nfl draft that alone is kind of all you need to know um when you actually dig deeper and try to judge and find the yellow and red flags you go okay well he wasn't you go you don't have to dig very deep no it's right there 560 yards his production profile is not like a lot of previous top end prospects from recent years. Brock Bowers, Kyle Pitts, those guys. So it'll be interesting where he goes will make a difference as to the target pecking order that he can find himself in.

55:34Mike Wright:I got a team for you. Alright, who? The last four mocks I've looked at all the same spot. Why don't you tell us the spot? It's Tampa Bay at 15. Okay. Three of the last four and then one of them had Carolina at 19. Tampa Bay seems like the most I'm not excited spot possible because he can go there and make big important plays on a regular basis and not necessarily be big for a fantasy when they have the depth that they have at the wide receiver position the re-signing of Kate Auten what role is that player going to have it just screams 400 yards and five touchdowns type of rookie season Carolina you start to get a little bit more interested personally because man tep mcmillan was was really all alone in a lot of respects last year they have some talent at wide receiver beyond him but um that's where you're kind of seeing you're not seeing top 10 mock picks recently as much as you were maybe a month ago um do you think he ends up in the top 10 no i i think he's a middle of the i he'll he'll

56:41Jason Moore:be 11 to 20 that range i think in the draft he's a very good prospect you don't watch him and say that he did anything wrong if he did anything wrong maybe he blocks too well for us in fantasy

56:52Mike Wright:football but he's it's funny because i 23 to the eagles i genuinely that as well i genuinely want yeah i've seen him to the rams as well i mean if the eagles jettison a.j brown you need another weapon. I want

57:08Jason Moore:Stowers more than Sadiq, but I don't want to say that out loud because I feel so stupid.

57:15Andy Holloway:I'm getting close to that. Sadiq will be the only first round tight ends with a lower Dominator rating than 21%. A Dominator rating is a combination of the team's receiving yards and the team's receiving touchdowns. It's a pretty strong indicator, hence them calling it the dominator rating but the only guys with a with a lower than 21 you have oj howard that did not work out you have hayden hurst that for fantasy purposes that did not work out and then kenyon sadiq will join that list and so there he is so tantalizing of what he could become if If Kenyon Sadiq hits and everything clicks and he works in the NFL, he can dominate.

58:06Andy Holloway:Yeah. But I struggle to see it happening.

58:11Mike Wright:Yeah, and that's the toughest part about any of these rookie tight ends. We've obviously had massive production from rookie tight ends for years. Yeah. The toughest part is, like, when you're drafted this high, it comes with a lot of expectation and a lot of game planning for you to be part of an offense. Like, these guys are going to have opportunities, Whether they capitalize on it, whether it's as much as we want, that's still in question. The second tight end off the board to talk about is Eli Stowers.

58:37Andy Holloway:The Stower of power.

58:39Mike Wright:I mean, the majority of mock drafts, the vast majority of mock drafts with Stowers have one destination in mind. Give it to me. The Denver Broncos. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a joker. That's a joker.

58:54Andy Holloway:He went to college to play quarterback, guys. and then switcheroo jokes on you. He's met with Denver. I'm the tight end now.

59:03Mike Wright:Let me give you the number. 765 yards and four touchdowns last year. He is 6 '4", 239, 23 years old, out of Vanderbilt.

59:13Jason Moore:And he's a wide receiver. I mean, he's a slot wide receiver. He's a route runner. He is a weapon for fantasy football. This is why I like him better. He's not going to be this guy that is constantly in line blocking. He's going to be used to catch the ball down the field and be a large target. That's what you want in fantasy football. He was the John Mackey Award winner. You look back at the last couple years, that's been pretty good. Tyler Warren, Brock Bowers, Brock Bowers, Trey McBride. Stowers is also, while his 40 did not come off as...

59:48Andy Holloway:It's not Kenyon Sadiq, 4-3-9.

59:51Jason Moore:Sadiq, because he was sub 4-4 at his size, which is outrageous and unheard of. I mean, there's been very few people in the history of the NFL that have done that. He got all the pub. But Stowers might have had the better combine overall.

1:00:06Mike Wright:He ran a faster 40 than Carnell Tate did. Yeah, he's super fast. Eli Stowers was at 4-5-1. Tate was at 4-5-3. This is what you said.

1:00:15Andy Holloway:His speed score is outrageous. I think he, Kyle, maybe you know this one. I think he put up the second highest Burt in the history of the Combine.

1:00:26Mike Wright:If Stowers goes to Denver, I'm going to try really hard to draft Bo Nix this year because the addition of Waddle and Stowers with what they had on that offense, that seems really exciting. Come on, guys. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

1:00:43Andy Holloway:No, no, no, no. Your first button was correct.

1:00:45Mike Wright:Oh, man. And you were like, you showed your 5 '10 and that button pushing.

1:00:50Jason Moore:Oh, man, I'm out of here.

1:00:52Mike Wright:5 '9 1⁄2".

1:00:54Jason Moore:Let's not keep rounding.

1:00:56Andy Holloway:Back to back with Al right now. So Stowers was the best by a tight end at the combine since 2003.

1:01:03Mike Wright:2003?

1:01:04Andy Holloway:Yeah, a 43 1⁄2 inch version.

1:01:06Mike Wright:And yet Sadiq's going to go ahead of him. I mean, it's going to happen. Because the ceiling for a player without athleticism in Sadiq, you can talk about the production. the ceiling for a player like that people they're going to look at that and um it's going to be

1:01:21Andy Holloway:pretty overwhelming it's it's and stowers is still learning the position like he went to college as a quarterback and then you know who else switched from quarterback to tight end travis kelsey oh yeah so there you have who's the quarterback for the cardinals that switched oh that turned into Logan Thomas just too late if he did it earlier he had a perfectly fine career as a tight end yeah

1:01:56Mike Wright:Stowers is a very impressive player I think you're going to have I hope we're talking about both guys in terms of fantasy rookie production we welcome all tight ends to the table in terms of contributing on fantasy football teams so some of the high end comps Mike Gasicki, Evan Ingram, he's not a blocker right now. Like you said, he's still evolving into the position. That can be an advantage. It can be a disadvantage, right? It just depends on the scheme fit that you find at the NFL level. But if he goes at the end of the first round, you know a team is drafting him, understanding what his strengths are, and you hope someone like Sean Payton puts him into a great position.

1:02:35Jason Moore:I mean, if there are teams that need wide receivers who the draft might just not fall that way, Take the Saints, right? Let's say they don't use the number eight pick overall in the first round on a wide receiver, even though they need one. And most of the other guys that they would get are gone before their second round pick. They've got a high second round pick. If they draft him and don't get another wide receiver, that's like the type of landing spot where you come in and you can be the number two target in an offense. And teams can draft this guy because they were going after a wide receiver.

1:03:09Jason Moore:the other one like they might just slot him in amongst their pass catching targets and say he's

1:03:16Mike Wright:the fourth best wide receiver all right that is going to wrap up today's episode of this show talking wide receivers and tight ends if you enjoyed it and you want to listen to our conversations on the rookie quarterback prospects the running back prospects we covered all of that on the Tuesday episode of the fantasy footballers you can click back on that episode and listen through next week we're going to get into our biggest draft worries some Foot Clan mailbag some Keep Trade Cut and I'm sure we'll have news to talk about so make sure you join us then The Draft Kit's at ultimatedraftkit.com

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