Avsnitt 540 - Lasta ur

5 Aug 2025 · 48 min · 27 chapters

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In short

Episode 540 (“Lasta ur”) is a stock-and-macro roundup plus a travel/tourism discussion. Hosts react to recent market moves driven by earnings and US economic data, especially NFP revisions and Fed-related rates.

Key claims

Novo Nordisk’s guidance/US expectations were cut, with the stock falling sharply; the hosts argue investors may be underestimating how much demand will broaden via additional indications, while also noting cannibalization/quality/legal risks from “Hims”-like copycat GLP-1 products. They also discuss Flat Capital’s strategy as a two-person investment firm and its deal flow/exposure to tech/AI (including OpenAI/Figma).

Notable examples

Novo Nordisk price drops (cited from ~1000 to ~300), Eli Lilly down ~6% (year-to-date), Flat Capital’s Figma position (up ~200% from IPO), and Truecaller’s GDPR-related scrutiny (IMY investigation; stock down from ~70 to ~46).

Guests

none clearly identified; the episode appears to be hosted by two people (names not reliably stated in the transcript).

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Chapters

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Market Trends and Analysis

0:15 to 3:09

Discussion on recent market movements, including employment figures and stock performance.

“Transcription by CastingWords with NFP-siffror, reports from the biggest companies in the USA, QRI-rapport and Fed-served.”

Sponsor Discussion: Robomarkets

3:09 to 5:27

Promoting Robomarkets and its benefits for trading in the USA.

“Now that it's in the report period in the USA, we've had all the big reports there.”

Tourism Trends and Economic Impact

5:27 to 14:00

Exploration of tourism trends in Mallorca and the USA, with insights on economic implications.

“and it's not sure that you'll get back your investeringskapital.”

Market Expectations for Vigovie and Osempic

14:00 to 15:00

Discussion on the low market expectations for Vigovie and Osempic in various regions.

“They were going to have a low expectations on Vigovie in the US market.”

Comparing Company Performance

15:00 to 16:00

Analyzing the performance of European companies like Ericsson and Nokia.

“so they've been good at finding the hjulet again when they've had it stökigt.”

Eli Lilly and Novo's Market Dynamics

16:00 to 17:00

Exploring the market dynamics for Eli Lilly and Novo, including stock performance.

Trends in Pharma Sales and Legal Risks

17:00 to 18:00

Discussing trends in pharmaceutical sales and associated legal risks.

“So that people have tried to test what else.”

Market Strategies of Big Pharma

18:00 to 19:00

Examining the strategies of major pharmaceutical companies and their market positioning.

“att ha så stora markedsandelar att de blir dominerande.”

Historical Pipeline Strategies of Pharma

19:00 to 20:00

Analyzing historical strategies of pharmaceutical companies in building pipelines.

“Yes, and now the VDN said that they should focus on their core business.”

Current Market Sentiments and Selling Strategies

20:00 to 21:00

Insights on current market sentiments and effective selling strategies in pharma.

“So just when he comes in and says focus, focus, focus.”
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Investor Reactions and Stock Analysis

21:00 to 22:00

Discussion on investor reactions and their analysis of stock movements.

“For this is what I talked about for the week, it is a HF example.”

Flat Capital and Investment Trends

22:00 to 23:00

Insights into Flat Capital's recent investment activities and market approaches.

“So that is a sign of analyzing that I have to do that.”

OpenAI and New Investment Opportunities

23:00 to 24:00

Exploration of OpenAI's impact on investment opportunities and market potential.

“It was fantastic for flat and I think OpenAI or Figma or these companies that they own, they're going to be able to do so much of the VD.”

Figma's Performance and IPO Insights

24:00 to 25:00

Analyzing Figma's performance and insights surrounding its IPO.

“It she's probably done very well is she's been with a North Capital and her parents and many of them in the krets of her have gotten in the rick of the rich and the rich.”

Market Effects of Upcoming IPOs

25:00 to 26:00

Discussion on how upcoming IPOs might affect the market dynamics.

“It's not that it's up 400 % on any investment here.”

Investment Strategies and Predictions

26:00 to 27:00

Insights into investment strategies and predictions for future market movements.

“It's what the families see, and they don't invest in every company.”

Liquidity and Venture Capital Dynamics

27:00 to 28:00

Exploring the dynamics of liquidity in venture capital and its market implications.

“but it might be a little bit weird, but then you should invest in new tech tech-related, which is the strategy.”

Market Insights and Company Performance

28:00 to 29:20

Analyze recent market trends and specific company performance.

“So you had more to buy a land and have you put in a new...”

Short Selling and Investor Reactions

29:20 to 31:30

Discuss the implications of short selling and reactions to company news.

“which makes the skateskulder De's gonna get us the fact.”

Financial Outlook and Company Strategies

31:30 to 33:20

Evaluate company strategies and their financial outlook amidst market fluctuations.

Tech Company Performance Post-Reports

33:20 to 35:30

Examine how tech companies performed after their earnings reports.

“Uppensibly are they best on what they do.”

Labor Market Data and Economic Indicators

35:30 to 37:40

Analyze labor market data and its impact on economic understanding.

“Chefen, who does this, for sure, look at the wrong data.”

The Future of Economic Data Models

37:40 to 40:00

Discuss the reliability of economic data models and their implications.

“Yeah, I looked at 10-year-old, the one has come down very quickly.”

GDPR Implications for Truecaller

40:00 to 42:00

Investigate the impact of GDPR regulations on Truecaller and its stock.

“Or he's just sure that they didn't have the hell out of it.”

Truecaller Insights and Market Dynamics

42:00 to 43:36

Discussion on the Truecaller app's features, user base, and market implications.

“a lot of people who both on Twitter and mailings of all profiling that these stupid stories need to know that's could be an excellent time to swipe to true callers.”

Stock Market Strategies and Speculations

43:36 to 45:45

Analysis of stock market strategies, discussing specific stocks and market movements.

“Jag har inte köpt några aktier, men nu när den har kommit ner mycket så tittar jag.”

End of Episode Reflections and Future Outlook

45:45 to 47:33

Reflections on the episode, summarizing key takeaways and looking ahead.

“The Röstas from the sponsor of the Gratis Aktie they can sell.”
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0:00Just what is it that you want to do? We want to be free. We want to be free to do what we want to do. And we want to get loaded. And we want to have a good time. And that's what we're going to do. But wait baby, let's go! We're going to have a good time. We're going to have a party.

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0:45with NFP-siffror, reports from the biggest companies in the USA, QRI-rapport and Fed-served. So it was a lot to follow. Not so active, I increased my short - before the week before it started. I stopped it all, so I got it. So we'll see where it takes. I think we'll see a little more of a savings. Again, but it's going to talk about it, of course. The NFP-siffror that came in, Yeah, longt ifrån Förväntat, men även de här Revideringarna de gjorde på De tidigare siffrorna var ju Ja, man höjde på Ögonbrynen, det kan man minst Ja, det känns som lite ropa varg Och Ida och grisen När vars historien heter, du säger att det går ner Och till slut här så får du rätt Så man skulle ju tagit in en kort position Och minskat lite För det blev lite svagare Framförallt med de här tull Deadlines.

1:43It's like that no one takes on the On the way that he's going to taco And here it was a little worse than we had And then we got a It's a little bit of a Kraft i rekyl, but we got a little Nergång on the market in all of a And it was very good for you who had a Little short position. Then we The biggest thing in the last week was Novo Nordisk. Both Oturman had not been Sacked by desk. Then you could have One of the most handlade Pappers in the whole of Europe That goes down to 20-25 % and then he had to go to 5-10 % and then he had to go to the desk and miss the whole so it was both it was not the best and then it was still so it was obviously a lot of so we'll talk about then we'll talk about Flat Capital which I'm selling the VDN announced that's the future of the I'm going to go so that we'll talk a little about then you had a previous in-to-bi which has been a lot of The market was the winner for two weeks ago and now has gone down 50 % on a week.

2:45Yes, exactly. We'll talk about it. I had a lot of money in it but I've been using it so I have a little runner-pussy. It doesn't play a big role. Now it might be interesting again. But it can take a little time for the actuality to stabilize after the good-skill-rörelse. Yeah, then we have USA-rapporterna And then I found a little bit A tweet about Truecaller That I was going to take up And then we will Take up a little macro And a little bit of Trump And then I found a little bit of Vegas We could maybe talk about it If we can get some time over at the end Snyggt, we're going

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4:55Precis. Man kan också handla... Du nämnde TradingView. Då kan man handla i graferna. Gäller man att koda kan man även testa olika strategier. and if you've got to find out on something and want to see how it had been able to perform if it went live, then you can go to so things. It's really exciting if you're interested in so. If you have questions, you can listen to Max & Simon on Stockholmskontoret or via their Twitter, and it's at RobomarketsSE. So, let's go with USA-handling today. Stort thanks Robomarkets. But come back, investeringen bär risk and it's not sure that you'll get back your investeringskapital.

5:41Thank you.

6:05In all cases i media. There I have not been shit都 Ginny. There were tam sunshine. But there have been much talk. I don't know immediately how they're playing this. Now I drove. That restaurantiner was down to 40 % in the audience of worldwide in the summer. I think it's my British which have been missing. It seems a bit got to think. But they never left there a way! You are not welcome to the Ent s. So it's very interesting. Mallorca is still very much on tourism and a strategy where you can try to work on everything. I saw a hotel that had been a campaign in all the restaurant and they had to go to a more welcome campaign.

6:52When I lived in Marbella, you who were there in the summer, there was a whole difference. It's much more fritt with a lot of money and you're looking at a digital nomad place. Did you know anything about more or less tourists? No, I Marbella was full of ass. But you're wondering what they're going around for? Exactly. It's their end of interest. Yes, you're right. You're right, you're right. The price has gone up very much. It's very bad for the local Mallorca-born if you fly away from it or you want to get a home or get a home. And then if you have a house and 9 out of 10 to Airbnb where it's just a day of the day, so you live here.

7:34So it's of course, the foreing must have to do it. And the bostadsrätts-fereing and so on. But it would be interesting if this is going to affect the price of the price and the trend. And you can have a little on your own medicine. They can't work in a tourism brand. I don't understand what they work with. The other who super protested against this is a catastrophe. Then Palma is a relatively large city. So it's of course a normal life here. And then there are a lot of tourist around the world. But it's interesting to see it. It's like they drive very different strategies. Mallorca and Marbella.

8:17Absolutely. Absolutely, they will probably not have much tourism, but they should not have much tourism. They have done the digital normal thing, that it is a different home for many. But there is it jobbier that they are in a way, a less flyer, it's hard to fly to and from. So I would like to let me out with that, because it's the only thing that will go around. Yeah, exactly. And you can still see that American people, but I saw Justin Bieber were here with clipper and it locks to another. Because it's a different environment, so it's really made for fine stränder and tourism. I saw some reals that it was someone who had taken up a good strand on TikTok, that it was the best strand.

9:06And then the whole summer of the summer didn't go to the strand, because it came 1 million people who would take a selfie pick. And that's what I think is that Americans have invaded this year. It's over all over. And it's that dollar has been strong, it's been good for USA, it's billy to Europe. But all of them should do their Euro trip in the summer, I understand. From USA. So it's more people than ever, and more packed than ever on the popular destination. Yeah, exactly. And yet we've had 10 % in the dollar to the other way. Yeah, until the summer. So we'll see if it's the same. We can't even take up the Vegas-like thing.

9:53They'll probably get more for the money, because the USA has become a lot of money. I've seen that it's been a lot of clips now on Vegas. We haven't been there yet, but we've been there with the same time. I've been in San Diego and New York and so on, so you could go to Vegas for the hotels for 100-200 dollars, it was gratis buffet. Now has changed the whole thing, but it's been a change in inflation and it's been a new resort free, legal tax, If you want to buy a room for$200, it could be$200 in different expenses and additional expenses. So Vegas is completely empty. It's not just about the gambling game for 30-40 years.

10:44It's about Adele and all the other sling-deon shows. It's going to flock in people there. So you can understand that the US has been around when it has become so many inflationspris in the US. Yes, but the US has become a lot of sense. I think that the tourism to the US will be able to get a lot of money if it doesn't have done it. They will also be able to get the extra-Avgiften. So there you can't see how... Absolutely, the US has been able to get the US. but I have to say it as a European, you can't go to the US. Yes, and we've got 10 % more than dollar, but it's still on high level. And all the prices have been increased very strongly.

11:41What was the last year when you and I were there? It was about 6. 68 when you live in a dream it's a very different skill and then inflation on it it would be interesting if he takes to Trump's meaning you've seen Canada and all the fly and many people around him I've never thought about it I'd never think of it to go to USA then it's politics and it's interesting if it continues when Trump starts or if people are ready to go to USA and how much it affects How can Canada, Europe and all other countries have to go to the USA? The political aspect I think I'm going to be a 20 but since I mean it's been a lot of people I say just that people say so but they have just a lot of attention so it's probably a lot of time

12:34but it's not a price level now it's Trump and Besant out after a dollar it can be a lot of people so it'll be better on the way but for us For us, svenskars, framförallt. We're a... Alltså... Våra prisnivåer hänger ju inte ens med i Europa, I would say. Alltså, svenskar blir fattigare och fattigare. Ja, men exakt. Alltså, det känner väl du av också, även om man bara åker till Spanien. Som svensk, förr hade man ju lite köpkraft. Den är ju inte kvar längre, utan konkurrensen... Nu är det polacker och alla möjliga som konkurrerar med en. Så Sverige måste ta sig kragen with our value, kurs and all that.

13:16And how do we do that? Do we just want to increase the value of that? I don't know, Vixbanken will start to be able to to get to our historical place in Europe as a country of a country of a country. Yeah, but there are some some sparing. We had to go into the market. We had Novo Nordisk. They came with a They were both sales and operating profits. Theirs growth was 13-21%. Now it was 8-14%. And operating profit and EBIT-tillväxten was 16-24%. It was 10-16%. They were going to have a low expectations on Vigovie in the US market. and less expectations on the osempic market and less expectations on the govi in the rest of the world.

14:19And then there were compounding that we talked about with hims and like that. So this can you see. I thought that Europe's biggest company was one of the most stable and the kurses have gone from 1 000 to 300. so this is really I read a article that it was Denmark's Ericsson and Nokia moment where you have gone from super-hielte to you know what you're doing on a very short time and then I've seen I had a story for five or six years or even more than and then they were good so they've been good at finding the hjulet again when they've had it stökigt. De plockade även in en intern vd, de har ju varit utan vd eller vdn hade ju avgått eller skulle avgå och många ville väl kanske ha in någon extern vd, men nu tog man in en intern vd så det smakade väl inte heller riktigt, börsen i smaken men Eli Lilly tror jag var ner 6 % i år och de har inte rapporterat än och Novo är ju ner väldigt mycket, så det har ju They have spread out So it will be very interesting How Novo will play here Kurs is 64 % on a year We'll see what it will be from And 50 % from When you think that Kurs is already gone down Have you done anything in Novo?

15:49I haven't done it, I'm glad for That you don't have I think when it's done So there's a good value Trade to do here Man får plocka upp den Det ser billig ut Men det enda jag såg var väl att Eli Lilly också klippte med sin De hade ju också En sån här aktör som Hims Nu heter de något annat och det är Kommer jag inte ihåg vad de heter Men en Hims-kopia Som de har använt för att skicka och sälja Men de klippte också med sin Och det verkar vara trenden att man går ifrån dem Och de har ju inte haft de här avtalen så länge Så det verkar ju snarare som att Man känner att det verkligen Kannibaliserar på sin egen försäljning Ja och sen finns det väl liksom Kanske bara i mer Dels kannibaliseringen och också kanske En ökad risk Alltså legal risk Hur de här hanterar Och sen verkar det väl vara då Att folk, de verkar liksom Man verkar strunta lite i kvaliteten Man vill ju mer bara åt en produkt där man tappar hungern Sen om det är Vigovie eller om det är en kopia Eller om det är HIMSS it's been a lot of people that are 17-9 that people both of these companies have underscited how they're afraid people for these bivirkings and whatnot I don't know if it's exactly the same quality if you take a copy of the product or not, it's probably the same product, but it's not the same thing it's probably the same substance in all of a sudden but you can just think about what it is for things that have gone through and tried to go down to the market.

17:29So that people have tried to test what else. Yeah, that's what I do. But it's not what else. All of the MSM are going to do. But I think that Nova and LA and Lily have a sprung because they are on the market. What they need to do is to spread the indication that it's a skill from many other investors som måste komma in och bevisa sig med studier och sådana saker. Vi borde gå fortare för Novo, Eli Lilly att bredda indikationerna att ha så stora markedsandelar att de blir dominerande. Med det sagt så måste man ju titta på värderingen. Nu är Eli Lilly mycket bredare. De har ju en mycket bredare pipeline och produktportfölj.

18:15And now it's a lot more specific They've done less Or less Exactly So it's well Antingen so So they're well On a certain Forvervsturné here He said more That they would Focus, focus, focus It's hard to understand What he's saying With that And you can think That this is a company That's a bad thing That's a bad thing I think I Q1 So they're 30 billion Danska I Net profit And market cap If I see right Here Are now 1000 in a million dollars. So it will be a P10 or something. So it's more about going from a total value to a total value in a total value at least, and then you're back in a big pharma value instead.

19:01All that depends on what you think. Yes, and now the VDN said that they should focus on their core business. And it can be ... ... ... Man kan ju inte göra det här jättebra Men det jag noterar är Att det är typ tvärtom från hur alla andra Har gjort det historiskt Jag menar Astra fick Losec Och sen nu är de ju värsta cancerbolaget Ja men det är det jag menar Alla får ju en cash cow som de sen använder Till att bygga en pipeline Och Astra har väl typ uppfunnit hjulet där Flera gånger genom historien Att bygga en ny pipeline Som sänds kassaflöden och sånt På 90-talet såg det illa ut with their pipeline also, then they built a new, big portfolio.

19:43And it's just that you should use the cash flow to. And now it's Asta that became the example, but this has all the big companies used. One cash cow, one hit to finance a big pipeline. Nysher and indication and so on. So just when he comes in and says focus, focus, focus. I don't say that I I noterar bara att det typ är Tvärtom från Alla andra stora bolag har gjort historiskt I en sån här fas När de sitter på en cashback Så det är ju Det kan ju gå vägen Men det är ändå Det är ändå en annorlunda strategi Det är något jag noterar Min känsla är väl att man kanske har Nått lite vägs ände i det här Att gå ner mest Visst, du kan ta något blätt och gå ner 50 % Men det känns ju inte supersunt får jag få mig, det beror på kanske vad du väger, utan det handlar väl mer om bekvämligheter om du kan ta det oralt eller att du slipper alla biverkningar eller att du kan ta någon spruta eller någonting som gör att du kan använda det längre tid det känns som att du måste åt en massa nya säljfördelar här för att du ska sticka ut Ja, jag tror inte det här att de begoer ner 21 % med det ena eller 25 % med det andra på sex månader det tror inte jag spelar lite bra roll No, no, no, no, so that they They thought to a little here from 300 to 310, 15 That they would have to Test with a little bit more For sale in the US, it's often With the tech and whom they have got to pay I saw that UBS had done a deep dive Some they call it, so it's probably that That's what maybe lock in me here now That now all will be negative Like H &M on 100 pounds Now you can sell Nova I talked to it with some of the other For the next week when we discuss it, or when we discuss it, and what I'm saying is that analytiker have been up and now they have been up and now they have been up and down.

21:42For this is what I talked about for the week, it is a HF example. That analytiker are on one side, it is a one that can find a list of 100, and on 180, they are on one side and all over 200. So that is a sign of analyzing that I have to do that. We'll leave it with Elliot or something that has taken over from government animations or anything It kind of feels like On 시청 and those problems Intervention Trust Landry and the founder of the foundation and such in FallenB�� who took back a number of old specials. Nothing is going on. I'm interested in on sector also. It is moving closely forwardly, but I buy a few deals It's more a-go than a-go than a-go.

22:32Then we had Flat Capital. We had the company's office that announced their release. It was quite a bit of an article for a month ago. It was a new article that they would become a new investor. It's Hanna Andrén, the company's office, who is a company. Then they have NCFO. It's basically the company. It's a different way to this. It's a Swaget and Aumann in two pairs. Then it's more that OpenAI, which is their biggest company, They did a new round here and it stood that it was a good for IPO. It was fantastic for flat and I think OpenAI or Figma or these companies that they own, they're going to be able to do so much of the VD.

23:10My name is like deal flow comes from Sebastian Semakowski and then they have executed on this and have done this together. But it would be much worse if Sebastian Semakowski had to handle their engagement in the company. and then would deal flow to disappear. It's very interesting what they did as a VP. The kurses were down between 4 % and 2 ,5%. I was a little like if it was going to be a swagger today, maybe I must be able to do my position. I haven't done anything. We'll see what I do here the next week. I was waiting for a PM that they had invested in Lovable or a other hett company and it would be a little bit of a start on the kurs.

23:51The company came up a little bit here after IPO. I think she's not a rich family of the rich family sells her her post now for that Hanna slutar. It she's probably done very well is she's been with a North Capital and her parents and many of them in the krets of her have gotten in the rick of the rich and the rich. So there has she done a fantastic job. But now they're on a jettekassa so it's more interesting what they were doing. One of the evidence that they have apparently snubbed in on the right thing was the Figma that was notated. They were 200 % up in their notary. It was insane. I think they stopped in this year 2021.

24:37It's like they've done two våg. One, the AI-våg where they're really good in their own. And one, they were well in the last period. So I think that Figma was up four times now when it had gone up 200 % on IPO. So to IPO-pris was not up so much. But then the investment was not so much money. 10 million to 40 million. It's not that it's up 400 % on any investment here. But I would have imagined something PM what they would do with their Figma position if they would have been out of the note or if they would have been more to IPO-pris. But there has not been any info there. So it will be interesting what happens next.

25:22I had the position for the expo for the galvan. It doesn't change because the VD is not going to end, but sentiment in the action can change. Now people can see it just now when we play in 10.30 on the tisdag as a job. But it's a dream job for the people who are interested in this. is to take this. A börs company is very slim. They have not all high-imposed because they are just two-person investment companies and can invest in them in the cool, the best company in the world. What is your take? It's a great way to get exponering to these companies.

26:01And then... It's a billy set. Yes, it's a billy set. It's what the families see, and they don't invest in every company. They don't get the exposure. And another, one of the biggest triggers are Clanas notering. And I thought it was a bull in the week with Figma. The one went up 200%. I don't know, there are no more than that Clana is a startup company. But they will carry a little more crypto-surfing so they can get a circle IPO. But they had sent out a million to their investors that IPO was back on board. Two days later could you have a notice of that now it's time for the notary. Had I been the one, I just had just sprung out on the market now when IPO-fuckers in the USA.

26:48And it's a top 5 position in flat. Had I been flat, Semakovsky had a mega exponering against Klana private. So he didn't need it in flat. but it might be a little bit weird, but then you should invest in new tech tech-related, which is the strategy. It was fantastic for Tech Stockholm. It's the end of the day when the Klana goes to the market, so that the bostads-priser and other boats and stuff will explode on the upside. So, you can do your own dyrbara köp before Klana comes to the market. I will be very excited about it I know that you're talking about I know that you're talking about That the bank will be a A lot of effect on the liquidity I think it's been a long Resa that's been an up and down It can be like a joke When you've had a long case How big are you on to hop in on a new After a long time I think it's snarerate Those who are VCs are doing a fast time And then it comes out a lot of money.

28:02So you had more to buy a land and have you put in a new... I think that the last year has... Public markets have been given that it's a good thing to be there. So I don't know how much the VC industry... ...får the same part of the cake. One time when the money is over. at the set of success. Nej, absolutely. Sen så hade vi 2BI idag. Vad kan du säga här, du som ändå har följt bolaget. Jag har ju bara sett att Bodenholm, de flaggade upp kort, varit ute och vevat lite på Twitter och Rigo. Och sen så har det kommit lite olika nyheter här som har total pressat kursen från att ha varit årets vinnare.

28:48Jag gick lång mellan 2 och 1 ,50. then the whole way up to 6-7 let's get into part in position 25 % bar and I think I'll leave as a runner because the reason I've come back to the company they've been in the skut they've started working quite long with the company they've driven tight chip cost control they've done good they've done deal with Dynabox a new year deal which makes the skateskulder De's gonna get us the fact.

29:52or any in the company so they use as many of their products as well and they are higher than market it was well that and so I worked very much on the way up and now I've come down and then it's a little interesting to look at again now I sold both two big owners and the company I sold the one was in an interview he was almost all in so it's understandable that he's going to let it But it's still an interesting company It's a bit of a Because So The value of the value was Nere On very low Nivå It's not I don't know I've heard that he wrote For that he was short But When he was out and All he wrote It's not a new All the time All the time It's not that It's why The reason The reason The reason The reason The reason The reason Alltså, förstår jag vad jag menar?

30:52Sen är det ju i början på en turnaround Om de kan undvika en emission Det är det som aktien har gått upp på Så jag förstod inte Han skrev liksom glass i kallt I sina tweets Så om det var det han var kort på Oppenbarligen var det ju ganska kallt När kursen har gått ner 50 % Jo, jo, absolut, jag köper det Men han fick ju med sig att grundarna lättade också Men Och det var väl snygg timing Att han kortade där uppe på B7 Eller när han nu kom in I don't know his name but it was a nice timing but it's more like an optimistic short-sighted trade than a fundamental that he had to do it because it's why he's on the 1 ,50 I understand what I mean it was no smoking gun in his tweets that's why he's going to run now other than that he's going to go very much and it's been a bit of a market We talked about Betts for the week where he also has been out and and there has been that they have got right that when things are stretchable then the record is often bigger had the kurses been in 3 then it had gone to 2 ,50 but now it was 7 so then the record is much bigger I can also think that people are overwhelmed over the reaction but it looks like it has put on to the end from 1 ,50 to 7 I don't know if it's not many No, it's what I mean If a company can Prestate 1 ,50 to 7 On 6 months Then it can also halberate On a report Or when it's up to a sign It's not a mistake I don't think it's not a mistake Why for example Welcome to the business This is the business I mean We should always do the business Why why I also have sold Majority of my company I've left a runner That's a completely financial It's a gratis In a situation It's a gratis But It can go to 0 It will be a good Vinstaffair for me But It was It's If it goes from 1 ,50 To 7 Then it goes To 3 It's a Unbeatable That's What it is Because it's not It's very clear how the future looks like.

33:18How they should finance themselves. Grundbusinessen is good. Uppensibly are they best on what they do. They have all the different products. Especially the very big companies. Stora and global companies. They have the same work with Samsung. And so on. Even if I don't know how big the market is, it's still a fourth in the hat. So it's well it. Teknikvärdet is what I'm thinking about. and I've looked at the action what can it be for a industrialist who can pay more for the price than what the price can be. I've never been to buy more on this but we'll see. So I'll see. Yes, we'll go to the US-report.

34:01I was a little negative to Apple. The report was well a good report. The guidance was a little bad as they thought. But the action is It's very odd. The report has come down a little now. It was a right guess, but it was not a total crash. It's been down 5 % the last five days. Amazon has come down 10 % on its report. And other other companies, what say you about the rest, have preestered pretty well. So it was a little bland reaction between big tech. I thought it was quite a bit that when Meta and Microsoft came to their report, all stood on to be in. it оз lah out n time

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34:55get It was not guidance but their report can be misstated what the customer has fronted. They have a tool that has done, which is very good. So it was that the market saw after these reports. And then on it got a NFB-siff report that we can come in that was long under the expectations. So can happen, but especially the revidering of the gamut and the data in all jobs that were created. So it led to and more to that Trump sparked, BLS-chefen. Labor Statistics. Labor Statistics. Chefen, who does this, for sure, look at the wrong data. It's not that you're wrong when you miss so much. And it's not the first time you miss it.

35:44They've missed it. Since COVID-19, they've been out and cycling. I remember that for the year when they were reading Bidens all the numbers in his last year. They have to go over a million jobs Which means that Biden didn't have any jobs The last year It feels like the rubriken was That it was a bad statistic Trump sparked the person Trump had no better control Trump had to say so Now it's not that the reason The reason is that they have been out and cycling Since COVID Something is wrong in their models And maybe it's been I've got statistics when you put on for many of the models and seasonings and so it can be very giggit and very and it's where it seems to be that they have happened for with COVID so started with a lot of different different things and seasonings and so on and now it says they can get to the apple after all the time and get rid of it so it's a lot of a lot of how they can get in data.

36:53And then they should have to get spark. Then, okay, that the person who got spark, and that they need to do a new job and maybe get to their models and get to something new. Absolutely. Now the question is who is going to be able to get and how politically the recruiting is. It's like, of course, they have been out and cycling. Why do you know not? where they maybe wanted to gynna Biden and Yellen. So now they're going to spark. But they're all right. Then the question is, what do you do with it? Do you do with it? Do you do with it? Or is it actually a person who can get on data again? That's what we see.

37:34So it's also a risk factor. Because it can be really bad if you don't get on any other siffror. And especially if data is always bad. It's been a long time. But the question is if it's worse. Or if you have to fix it. Yeah, I looked at 10-year-old, the one has come down very quickly. Man tror probably on a little a little bit of a little bit from what you thought before. This is a little bit of a from the Fed-missed for the week. It didn't get any any sands. Now, I think it's a little bit of a sands when it was a bad NFP. So I'm a little bit a little bit of a svenska fasted, if it should go around.

38:07I'm sitting and a little bit there. They're very much of 10-year-old. I saw that Rutger, as the media wrote in a lot of new I'm going to go to the court here, so he can have an evig Look at what it's going to do He's probably not going to follow directly But I think it can be a place here In the fact that the actors can be A little because they've had a very Trough period there in the last time But something I've gone on On the last day there are new Anmelds are And it's a statistic It's how many people have been For a job And the statistics are much more And they're not like for example NFP-siffling.

38:48And the fact that it's not it's not it, it's not it, it's up. It's a bit of a new labor. Fler will be a labor. Fler will be a labor. Fler will be a labor. Fler will be a labor. Fler will be a labor. It's a much more easy to read. And the fact that it's gone up the last months. The fact that NFP would come in bad for it or later, it was not a shocker. Then that it was so, The numbers you said in fredags was not the how it went in juli but it was not the whole world but it was the revidering that was so bad and it got a little bit for the narrative how strong the economy actually is but what I wanted to say was that you can have slated hold on the last month when you look at the new world and it has not gone hand in hand with a booming economy.

39:45It's just that he's going to talk about it. And it's why I say, had he sparked the chefe, for that, no, but now he's been out and cycling so long, so now he's going to spark. It's fair. But now, I don't know if he's going to understand how the hell they've been. Or he's just sure that they didn't have the hell out of it. I don't know, in this situation. He said that they could continue to have the hell for his sake, if they were going to have to have it with Biden. And when he... If you're a fan of a fan, you're worried about who he's going to be able to do this. And how big influence he's going to have on the NFP.

40:20I think it's not going to play a role. If you're going to realize it quickly, if it's so, then you'll just lose your status. It's not going to be a problem. But it can be a problem if people want to take a decision on the siffre that doesn't matter. And then you'll see that it's a wrong way. And then it's not so. It can be that the person who is much more volatile and will be more surprised. And if we start with True Caller, I found a tweet from a person called Bursstudenten who looks to draw a little bit of tråd here at the end of the end. He had a pretty big account, but he drew a trough about a GDPR-end.

41:06...mot Truecaller. Det har inlett en tillsynsutredning 10 februari. Det här grundades från en person som ska ha jobbat på Truecaller. Det här började redan 2023, om jag fattar rätt. Det verkar råda lite spriddaskurar här, men det kan vara intressant att läsa den här tråden. Aktien har gått från 70 till typ 46. Rapporten var inte så dålig. Ingen har riktigt förstått vad som har hänt. Visroy was also on the GDPR and it was a little bit of a lot of questions about all the company in Europe, if they were with the same for GDPR is something in the EU and here it will come a form of result. I don't know if you want to get GDPR so it will be great big but I think it was a little interesting answer on this one, because it seems to be a lot of people who both on Twitter and mailings of all profiling that these stupid stories need to know that's could be an excellent time to swipe to true callers.

42:11Or if the guys were spammers in India or if they were GDPR - bra На-Mehlland might be a pseudos multi-to - raid but... People who all of us kant who will make a single - caption 我rhins sport don't use the password so if you're looking to take back these Carolina convoices and commands overBye or what it is that has this syfted. But it can be interesting. The kontot is Lada 1016. So if you follow Truecaller so can this be interesting to read. I think still that when it comes down so like this now I don't understand why. It may be on the GDPR-utredsing that IMY, Integrated Myndigheten will come with a word there in the near future.

42:58So you will wait for it. it, but they still get extremely bad for being a big app. And then you have all these goals with that Apple will take off a solution and India will take off its own solution. It has been a lot of rubrics the last week that Apple will come with a new solution. The biggest thing has been at the other point that now you can use Truecaller on the same way in an Apple phone when they have opened up. So it is now that Apple is able to get 10-100x more per användare jämfört med en Android-användare. Men ja, jag spanar in Truecaller lite. Den brukar ju röra sig mycket. Jag har inte köpt några aktier, men nu när den har kommit ner mycket så tittar jag.

43:42Så ska jag bara försöka reda ut det här med den här tweeten och se om det är någon förtäckt blankare som har tipsat den här personen eller om det finns mer under ytan här. Han tog ju även upp att grundarna gav ju bort en miljon aktier var till släktingar and that there can be, if you're blank, that you can sell a lot of cash there from. When the kurses are falling down like a novo then comes always a lot of stuff. When the kurses stood around 70 was not a problem on the sky. I think it's a interesting company. They've managed to be very good for a small bit of a Swedish company and have hundreds of millions of users.

44:23You can still see that I have an iPhone, I don't have an app, but how many galning are there that ringer time. You're just for the following of the spam and the spam. So it's it. Yes! Have you anything more to say about the budget before we finish this episode and we're back on the desk next week? No, but it's not that you should follow the data that the results of the revidering, new jobs and so on. It can create a challenge for a new year in the middle of the year. If it's a deal. Now Trump has also set a deadline for Putin. Vill sig väl för dig Ja mina kortare, exakt Nu har jag ju lång massa aktier också Så jag vill ju bara försöka hålla med Headshad Och stundvis öka kortning Så att man kan ha pengar när det går ner Men, och sen har ju Trump satt en deal Mot Ryssland Tills på fredag, jag äger den här CCIR Jag har ju sålt hälften där Upp, så att jag har väl Gav runt 10 dollar som också är Kassan i spacken, det är de som ska köpa Kiev Star, if you remember what I talked about about it earlier, which is the biggest phone operator in China, so it's a real thing to China play.

45:35Now Trump's deadline to be on Friday with Vapenvila. And the Rösting in the SPAC, I don't want to be with it after the Rösting because it's not going to go down. The Röstas from the sponsor of the Gratis Aktie they can sell. But in all It's 12 August, so I can tell you that if a car is running right here, before the 12 August, then it might be a little bit of a car on CC. Otherwise I would go to go to the car before the 12 August. This is my tech, and I have a little app. Just as I mentioned it. Yes, then we feel and kill. I will say that I have had one of my first weeks on the end, in front-terminalen gjorde kanske någon telefon-affär men det har faktiskt varit fantastiskt, det är nyttigt att följa lite från sidan och killen, det får väl vara att man inte satt på desken på Novos vinstvarning Min pill är väl att det brakade neråt här första fredags, det ska ju visa lite vad man är kapabel till också att de här NFT-siffrorna They've been a long time.

46:52The storm has been set on it. And hopefully it's going to get better and better data to go on. That's my hope. It's not so many. It's a hard time. I'm glad I'm going to see that it's coming again. But it's a little more than a day. It's still summer. In Europe we're going to semester now when we come back. So we come back and think how much we should work? and then we'll take all the tough and the other. But it's a fun thing there. Yeah, nice. But then we'll end up with it. And all of us will enjoy the sun. We'll thank Finnoi Media and our clip. And then we have a disclaimer. And I'm flat. Of what we've talked about today.

47:38Have we mentioned something else? I'm a little Tobi. I'm a little Tobi. And so I'm a C-C-I-R. Back to some. Prada, doctor. Nice. Then we'll see you next week. Over and out.

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