In short
Market mood shift and stock-picking in Sweden/Europe with a focus on Betsson (B2B/Turkey risk), small/mid-cap rebound, AI/hyperscalers, energy/oil and inflation, plus trading tools and a few “fill/kill” trades.
Guests
No clear guest names in the transcript. The hosts mention “with us Robomarkets” (a platform sponsor/segment) and discuss their own portfolios. No other guest biographies are provided.
Key claims
- Betsson’s earnings warning is tied to Turkey/Erdogan tightening; B2B margins make the picture hard, but the stock has bounced.
- Small caps are starting to outperform after a long AI-driven drawdown; flows from small-cap funds may lag.
- AI capex/hyperscalers and “real world” infrastructure (data centers, energy) remain a strong theme.
- Oil/inflation risk is not fully priced; war de-escalation doesn’t guarantee macro improvement.
Notable examples
Betsson, Bonesupport, Embracer, Coffee Stain, Mag Interactive, Alligator, Xvivo, Cambi, Nibe, Studsvik, Royce deal, hyperscalers (Nebius, CoreWeave), Oracle, Antropic/OpenAI, Amazon buying Globalstar, plus “fill/kill” trades (Sivers mentioned).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMarket Optimism
0:45 to 1:55
Discussion about recent market movements and positive sentiments among investors.
“You sat in the last week and waited for the fat pitch.”
Betsson's Performance
1:55 to 4:26
Analysis of Betsson's recent profit warning and its implications for investors.
“Jag var ute på Playa eller något annat härligt i Spanien.”
Betsson's Challenges and Opportunities
4:39 to 7:46
In-depth look at Betsson's challenges in Turkey and potential for recovery.
“It's very easy to get in the customer under VM.”
Small Companies and Market Trends
7:46 to 14:00
Examining the performance of small companies in the market and investor sentiment.
“that they can be on several different markets.”
Market Trends in Small-cap Funds
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion on the performance of small-cap funds and market indicators.
Biotech and Medtech Companies
15:00 to 16:00
Insights on the performance and potential of biotech and medtech stocks.
Trading Strategies and Personal Experiences
16:00 to 17:00
Guests share their trading strategies and personal insights into market behavior.
AI's Impact on Investment Opportunities
17:00 to 18:00
Exploring how AI is influencing investment strategies and company valuations.
“It's hard to be that many people have lost the institution of the financial and so on.”
Energy Market Dynamics
18:00 to 19:00
Analysis of the energy market, including oil and renewable energy investments.
“I'm more like, if I have a lot of income, then I'm not going back.”
Consumer Trends and Environmental Solutions
19:00 to 20:00
The discussion focuses on consumer trends in energy solutions amid environmental concerns.
“Det enda man läser i Breakit är att bara man har någon A i D så är det värt några 100 miljoner.”
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Market Predictions and Economic Outlook
20:00 to 21:00
Predictions on market trends and economic conditions in the coming months.
“a little bit of a I have to be able to create some of these They should be able to to be very much kodare.”
Institutional Investment Trends
21:00 to 22:00
Discussion on how institutional investment flows are impacting the market.
“It was more that USA pump max, all the other just to go on.”
The Future of Renewable Energy Companies
22:00 to 23:00
Exploring the potential rebound of renewable energy companies in the market.
“Or like Studsvik, there's a lot of exposure to the power of Kärnkraft.”
The Role of Energy in Global Politics
23:00 to 24:00
An analysis of how energy resources play a crucial role in global politics.
“You can get a low volume, the volume will be in and out.”
Geopolitical Factors Affecting the Market
24:00 to 25:00
Discussion on the impact of geopolitical events on the financial markets.
Market Resilience and Investment Strategies
25:00 to 26:00
Final thoughts on market resilience and strategies for future investments.
“It doesn't have to be so, but when they have talked about Islamabad in the weekend it doesn't mean anything of them.”
Inflation and Market Sentiment
28:02 to 29:28
Discussing the implications of inflation and market trends in the current economy.
AI and Hyperscaler Sector Insights
29:28 to 30:44
Exploring the booming hyperscaler sector and its impact on AI investments.
“Så, ja, man måste inte skriva av den risken in the whole thing.”
Investment Shifts in the Real World
30:44 to 32:24
Analyzing the shift of investments from apps to physical world assets and infrastructure.
“Men Ja den trenden verkar intakt Oracle som har gått dåligt Var upp 10 % igår Det känns som att Det är lite sådär varannan månad i AI Om det liksom är bolagen som är noterade i den sektorn.”
Consumer Behavior and Market Effects
32:24 to 34:27
Examining how consumer sentiment impacts spending and the economy.
“They have their budget - and they will go to it.”
Market Predictions and Personal Strategies
34:27 to 35:56
Personal insights and strategies regarding current market conditions and investments.
“I think that the world has been with me a lot for it.”
Space Industry Developments
35:56 to 37:08
Discussion on recent progress and future potential in the space industry.
“The hotels, as I've talked about it on the other day, went pretty well.”
Weekly Fill or Kill Segment
37:08 to 39:21
Sharing weekly investment successes and failures from the hosts.
“Had this been under fingerprinting, then you just have to be the whole time.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Just what is it that you want to do? We want to be free. We want to be free to do what we want to do. And we want to get loaded. And we want to have a good time. And that's what we're going to do. But wait baby, let's go! We're going to have a good time. We're going to have a party.
0:43Transcription by CastingWords I just wanted to play in the US Open. Yeah, in golf or tennis. In the end of the game. The end of the game you're on with. You sat in the last week and waited for the fat pitch. The next week the price was up 4-5%. I didn't know that a blockade of the most of the sun would be the fat pitch. No, it was it you sat and swamled for the week. I went, I went. It's not better to buy before it goes up 4%. I would have understood that the USA would stop the sun at the whole. And then you should be with a half-stong in your hands. It has never been so positive as it has been the last two weeks.
1:25It's like after Tull-fred, for example, it has not come so many solutions. But it should you be able to read out, what's happening here at home and on the market? We should talk about it's positive now. Now everyone thinks it's positive, 10 % from the bottom. Then you should go. Yes, now everyone's in the first five. It's like, no, it's going to hell. Helvetet är det här. Och nu när vi är upp tio. Nu är det. Oh shit. Alla måste in. Jajamän. Idag är det tisdag 14 april. Vi hade Betssons vinstvarning. Jag var ute på Playa eller något annat härligt i Spanien. Satt du vid skärmen? På Betssons vinstvarning?
2:02Ja. Ett stort bolag som går ner 20 % för andra gånger nu på tre månader. Jag fick någon avis. Men nu när jag tänker efter. Jag kommer inte ihåg. Var det här i fredags? Ja, torsdags. Ja, torsdags. Det är Turkiet G. It's a big deal, it's going to talk about our... It's a little risk on. It's small business, it's medtech, it's dataspel, you name it. Like it. Yeah, it's like it was the first positive period. It's the green spot that often comes to frostbinter again. We'll see if it's going to be a little bit. And then we'll talk about how you think about it. I have a hard time to think that you're positive when the price has gone up.
2:41You're an anti-hating of everything. If it's up, it's going down. If it's going down, it's going down. So it's going up. So that we'll be able to do it here. And then we had a spinning I was going to talk about. That was quite interesting. We're going to go.
3:04We have with us Robomarkets. And it happens still on the American market. There can you via Robomarkets Very easily Korta very many akties It's a lot of people who are Spreads, maybe you have long Novo in Denmark And then you can all the kitchens Korta Novo, for example Via Robomarkets I USA, for a double note Exactly, so all double note It's a lot of traders Who are selling De pappers Astra, Lundin Gold Lumi, with more Handlas in Canada Or in the USA With double note And then there are often great opportunities there. Precis, and if you want to get a little bit of a call before that the open in the USA, you can listen to their little, short podcast that they started, which is called 4 minutes to Wall Street.
3:51That comes before the USA-börsen opens every day. And it's a recap on what's happened, how it went to the end of the evening, what's happened in Asien under the time, etc. So that you get a good view. Yeah, but very smooth. And if you want to handle it, you can use it via TradingView. If you want, it's very smooth. Very good graph there. And then you can connect your Robomarketskonto and handle directly in TradingView. You can get to positioner and account in TradingView. And it's the end of the market you can handle. With an ISK directly in TradingView. And it's fantastic. Precis. So if you're without a system today, it's perfect to get a Robomarketskonto and get to a platform like TradingView.
4:36Stort tack Robomarkets Men kom ihåg, investeringen bär risk och det är inte säkert att du får tillbaka hela ditt investerade kapital Om vi ska börja med Betsson De har ju den här lönsamma B2B-delen i Turkiet och Erdogan har ju stramat åt och nu är det andra kvartalet i rad som de vinstvarnar Vinsen gick ner väldigt mycket I och med att de har så hög marginal I den här B2B-delen Där det är ett annat bolag som driver verksamheten Och de utlicensierar det Det är ju väldigt pyshy Så det är svårt att få lite korrekt bild Nu har aktien studsat tillbaka lite här Det känns som att resterande Betsson De visade ju att andra kvartalets siffror var upp mot förra året Så det verkar väl som att normal Betsson går ganska bra If we go in at VM-year, then you can go in with the customer.
5:40It's very easy to get in the customer under VM. So you're still there for the rest of the year. And then you have the Turkey-parts of the deal. People were out with that it was 101 % of the winston. You can still get it right now. When you have a two-kvartal in a row because of the Turkey-parts of the deal. Do you think they should go up with the fact on board? Or should they continue to go to the grot? It's a good market, right? But they're a little low-reurized, Nasdaq. Mindre transparency is more transparent. Many media have been out and said that they need to explain this. It feels like both from a competition and legal way you hold the court very tight.
6:27If you're on to talk about Erdogan, then maybe you don't want to be able to do it on ConfCalls or in reports what you're doing with. No, maybe not to show how good it works. No, it doesn't work either. But if you have a higher rating, then of course the market will be able to understand how much of this B2B-delen is. How much of the B2B-delen funsing? How much of the relationship works? No one knows what's happening here. but they have written out these storms it seems like they have been five or ten times it was my best investment at the beginning of my career when they were when they were in Net Entertainment and they were one of the pioneers on the svensk of the market so they have been very good on this and I think this led a little in on this many were in on that it was better now when people talk about hacks that it was better to be oreglered.
7:26For then you know what it is. If you're on a regular market, then the government just takes higher and higher skatter all the time. And before it was ESG, that you didn't have to be able to do anything with an oreglered all the time. It feels like it's a little bit from and back here. And then it doesn't have to be an all the entire for the whole of these companies that they can be on several different markets. It has been a little so that if you just hold on a regular market so you'll be premiered. on more regals. It has not really been so. It's not like that people have been in a game. It's not a game.
8:02We're not going to do it. Take for example Cambys. They thought that if we just hold us on regals then we will get a credit card in the USA. So it's not really. They will do it from the state. Then you can sign many kunders. And the kunders do not really have to be a credit card. But But I haven't bought any bets on. I'm not going to buy a bet. I'm not going to buy a bet. I've got to buy a bet. I've got to buy a bet. It's probably been a 4-hat. Now they're going to go in in Nevada. And there's the big thing that you don't hold on with prediction markets. So don't go to the silver. Exactly. So when you go to the big contract or the stock market.
8:43So it's probably good to go to the white. But I think that you can probably buy. They have been saying that it had been stabilized in December and January. It's very difficult to use when you're still going to win. But to buy Betson, now it's been up a little. In the beginning was it's been down to 20%. It's not yet. But to buy Betson inför VM. Now it's just down to 6 % on a week. I don't know if it's all the all-time small-plugshows. Or that it was that rest of Betson was going to be fine. so if you win two times, then maybe Turkey doesn't have to be lost. It's probably so you think. There's a half effect here in that the winston is always going to be lost.
9:26But it's a form of a plough that you can get away here. And they've taken the great kassaflöden from here. They've sprunged in money and sat on South America. They were a trade-sponsor for Inter. They've been in various countries and they couldn't do it without this. But yeah, I mean, I've been a little on the hook and I've been able to buy it when it's like a bloodiest. Here on 95, I don't know what I'm going to do. Aktien are still, I'm going to pick it up on 200 and I'm now on 95. I've come down on 200, I'm not worried about Turkey. And now I'm all worried. It's a little like the bus. There up, no one's going to be here.
10:04Here nere, I'm not a big fan. Inget end of sentiment as price. No, as price. But yeah, I'm going to hold on all the game's akties in for... For footballs-VM, it's not a thing. So you see a lot of svag Okay, this is a little different But you see a lot of svag Annars So you have them in the football Yeah, it's like Absolutely Then we go on to small companies Medtech and so It was very long since That was so positive I saw that My Bones support Which I have Forbred me Some I have Hold on here They're up 8 ,7%. They're up 256 % from 180%. And the most remarkable thing is that the bankers have not been taken.
10:52The kurs has gone 40%. Alla should be so many kvant-blankers. It should mean that they're on trend. I think that trend has been up here. Fiske-krok. It doesn't work out of these smart AI-models to think. The company is still one of the most blankers on the market. Research has been up many days. hela läkemedels Medtech som har crossats väldigt mycket senaste halvåret har kommit tillbaka igår handlade jag Embracer på att deras metrospel skulle revilas lyckades jag hitta tidigt så kursen gick upp 5 % från det jag bröt min tunnelbanetradingförbud brukar du handla på tuben och tåget jag pendlar inte så mycket när du går på staden I'm a mobile trader.
11:37I'm going from home to job. It's probably one thing. When I'm talking about Ica and when I'm talking about school. I'm always talking about mobile. It's probably a little bit of a index. But just to take a bet and then you can stay on a football training. It's not a loss of a history. I've got a little cash on the embrace trade. So now I can do a little bit of mobile trades. But data-spel has also been a catastrophe. Ketastrof, det är väl en av de branscherna som verkligen inte påverkats av oljebranschen? Eller liksom inflation, oljeprisen med mera? Nej, det skulle ju vara konsumenten i så fall.
12:13Men det känns som att det kan vara lite lipstick theory. Exakt. Det är väl snarare AI-grejen som kanske har påverkat den branschen. Ja, men exakt. Jag såg sentiment i den branschen i alla fall det senaste halvåret. Ja, jag tycker Coffee Stain känns intressant där. Ett sådant här utbildningscase känns ju likt Neo Boa, that people have got an aktie, they don't really care about it, they don't have a private account, it's the most sold acties, if I have read it right. So people don't really know what they've got, they sell it out. Even though it's Coffee Steen that's much better than what Embracer is just now.
12:48And I'm a G7 there, and I've seen the magic I've been going with Mag Interactive, it's just antingen it's a total small business, that everything goes, you don't need to look at it, or maybe it's that you have a little green scott in these very hated sectors. What is your feeling? Are you thinking about it now that it's for small companies? I don't know. The price goes over the way. It makes it a little easier. Yes. The index has gone up to 10 % in 10 days or 2 weeks. Now, it's starting to make small companies. It was probably in the first days. Yes, and here you can say I would like to say that if the market was always in the way, so it got much down on the Iran - but there I think that small and mid-cap have held much better.
13:44I think that they started down before, it was on the AI in the year. And the Utrends and AP-fondes and all the new ones. We saw some bad reports in Q4 and then it was a lot of slacks so the risk will go in there I tried to check out if tin fonder if it was for them they are up 0 ,45 % on a week and back 0 ,75 % on a month so when it starts to be for them then it really has to be on the way on the way we haven't yet no, it has not it has just been it has just been some days of small company while index has it has been for two weeks And you see still I used to buy the more more than the other and there really takes time I don't think that the other this is not the volume it's not much liquid No, exactly now I saw that Alligator is a biotech company it's up 70 % it's like Sivers the next year it's up in 17-18 it's like many can pay on the other It can spill over a little It will come a new thing People will buy something They sell to another It needs a few days And then you had a vote filter In Q1 That it was institutionally And now we are in Q2 Many of the people are probably ready It doesn't need so much To studs But I don't think That capital that came out In Q1 Will not come back I first time I saw still Småbolagsfonder were the most sold So if you look at the man on the gator Or the ones who look at Aktuellt Then you see that if I'm a smallbolagsfond Går dåligt, then I sell and buy a global fund And they go first When smallbolagsfonder begins to go well Or when some on Aktuellt begins to talk about Småbolagsfonder When smallbolagsindexes do new highs And it's a long time So It can be a back thing And I think That's the hardest thing here I think You don't need to make a difference between small companies It's like If it's a company that's billy And is good So it's good That you should look at For example I talked about biotech Medtech, Bonex Research Xvivo All of them have gone And if you look at their cash flows They were quite a bit Relative tidiga For Medtech has always had Highly high Yeah, but there You have a little wall-to-be And so things In there AI might not be on it I first time No, which you have to do Yeah, but But especially AI might also help them And enhance them But take X-Vivo Kylväskena I don't know what I should find out there What is it for for a Kylvässe?
16:57Hjärtan When you're in the Transplantations So it's the one And the other one When you have ridged this You're completely ovan You have fantastic Relatively fine winters Can you just sell it And when all the other Are gladest Ska I sell it Or is it a new Or is it a new It's very difficult Trots that you have 15-20 years in the market so it's hard to play with the feeling of the feeling of the storm that you go through here. It's hard to be that many people have lost the institution of the financial and so on. It's a different kind of trade. It's more like it goes up a lot, it can come down a lot.
17:43You don't have the same structure in the or the way of the way of the way. I mean, I'm very sure. And I'm very bad at handling my business. Many of them are really good at trading and investing. They handle when it goes up and then you buy again. I'm more like, if I have a lot of income, then I'm not going back. You can be a trader or have a fundamental view that you handle around. I'm a part of my business. I'm going to take them off if they come back. and so on I've got a dream of lotto-winsters so if I could sell something, then I think it would come a bid the next day when I leave it, then I have to leave it when I leave it, then I have to leave it another interesting thing I saw was AppSales, which is a CRM-based company which has also been in the AI the death of they got out with that they have much capex and R &D on an AI - that they had to do it in Aira it's the air Luftwärmepumpbolagen, Nibe-kopian Men, och då att de skulle särnotera det här Så att man liksom höjde marginalen på sin core business Man har lagt massa pengar på någon AI-del Och sen om man gick in och kollade börsvärdet på upsells Så var väl det liksom så här 300-400 miljoner Och jag får ju för mig att Det lät ju ganska smart det här Att liksom sätta ett sådant AI Det finns ju knappt några AI-bolag på den svenska börsen Det här bolaget, de skulle ju lansera sin produkt 15 april Så de är liksom precis i uppstarten skulle få med sig om det var 17 miljoner i kassan.
19:18Här går det ut till VC-firmer. Det enda man läser i Breakit är att bara man har någon A i D så är det värt några 100 miljoner. Det är ju vad hela upsells är värt. Så det borde ju finnas någon 1 plus 1 blir 3 här. Kan jag tycka. Aktien gick upp mycket men handlas fortfarande på låga nivåer. Jag har liksom inte köpt men jag tycker det kan bli delade from Kindred and then it's fantastic. They often have such an I have to say, I have to say, how much the Aira will be worth, or what it is worth. But it feels like Vitek and all of these could be could be could be a little bit of a I have to be able to create some of these They should be able to to be very much kodare.
20:09Yeah, Yeah, if you're a newbie, you're not going to be able to go to the other. But absolutely. They must write prompt. It's not receptionist. It was a joke. Exactly. It's absolutely a chance for it. It's going to be possible now when AI is a hat. Yeah, but really. You mentioned that AIRA. I think of the air pump. NIBE. You see that Europe is completely closed. We don't know what we're going to do. We have a lot of energy needs and our supply chains on it are going to be calculated. So you were the solution that Fandalei was with here in the week? Yes, but... So you were saying what we were going to do?
20:58Did she say that she was going to pump it? No, but all the way with the oil. It was more that USA pump max, all the other just to go on. What would we say about that? to just stop consuming el. Yeah, exactly so. And a part of the consumption is that we need to invest in something else. I remember when I was at the time when I was at the time of the time and said that we should not to pay off the money on the money but we should invest in the air pump and so on. It will probably be a grön våg av det här. Typ Nibe, Solcellsbolag, med mera, kommer nog få en andra renaissance från att ha varit helt off.
21:41Jag håller på med den här Örstedt. Vi har inga alternativ, för vi kan ju inte börja pumpa olja. Kol har vi väl. Men det kommer nog också dras på. Och kärnkraft och allting. Men Europa måste ju liksom samla alltihopa. Konsumenten kommer väl kunna hitta sådana alternativ. And is it something that Europe will Stödja from a state of With subvention and etc So it's just so I have an example You know, the Sol-Bolages Have gone super bad in Sweden and Europe It's a little battery-Bolages Many of these small-crap All of them are crash-crashing So you can see that You can see that You can see that All of these Grøna crash-crashing And find that They will have They will have They will have a good cash But a good cash that they still have a funerable business if it comes a expected question.
22:38Or like Studsvik, there's a lot of exposure to the power of Kärnkraft. They got a deal with Royce Royce now. So, you can go through the alternative energy-load. Orrön, which we've talked about. Now we just go over a right time. Yes, exactly. It's a example of such a company. Absolutely. Absolutely, and with Nibet for example, there are you a large cap. You can get a low volume, the volume will be in and out. Now it's plötsligt in inflöden from the most hate and blanked akties in several years. Then it will be fast as we think here. We have talked a little about that oil companies should have a so that
23:24forsvarsallocering institutionellt flöde som försvarsbolagen fick på Ukraina kriget men jag tror att det flödet kommer nog delas upp på oljebolagen och sånt här exakt om vi går vidare till Porsche-Ryd delen då börsen är ju ner kanske 2 % så när det har hänt och Trump kom ju med en a teh
24:18απ that you've been with on 20 years when the price is up 5 % it's not too many days and then it was like EQT, Sandvik and all these high OMX 30-year-old it was there people were short there was not small and mid that went up 7 % then the day and then we've continued now it was going to be able to get down it was in helgen they didn't have any friends they were talking about each other but it was not a deal but the price of the price the price of the price has come down a little but still is much higher since the war started and that the price is not bad. It's a very sad world we live here. When the price decided to be a off-ramp that the climax is probably behind us in the war.
25:07It doesn't have to be so, but when they have talked about Islamabad in the weekend it doesn't mean anything of them. but a few days before it was like no, they didn't talk about it anymore but they talked about it so much so they had to take a coffee in Pakistan so that it is a form of deescalering in all of the military and it is important for the region it has been attacks against Saudis Infrastruktur Barrein och Kuwait Sen i en vapenvila så kommer det ju alltid Det händer ju alltid saker i alla fall Någon stridsbit som drar iväg Ja som skjuter iväg något Som har tråkigt liksom Men det är ju sällan sådana saker Gör att vapenvilan fallerar Nej exakt Så är det vapenvila som marknadservar Vi har två veckor att köra på Jag kan väl tycka att indexen nu är På samma nivå Om inte högre than when it was done.
26:13It was not like everything was hunky-dory and the stature was on top when it was done. Before we had AI and it was... Private credit. Private credit. It's something that has escalated, that has put on the background here, but it has not had to be thrown out of the media. And now we go in in the report season. Absolutely, I'm going to buy it. It's a bad report. It's not a problem in which branch you're in. Du kan skylla det här på Iran-kriget Eller i alla fall guidance Alla kommer förstå om man säger att guidance är svårt Att det är svårt att säga om framtiden Så det finns väl en bra window här att köra på Och är det något som har hållit i här?
26:55Jag har några polare som kör de här Folk orkar inte heller höra Det är lite så här, du har de här råvarumänniskorna Som sitter och räknar varenda barrel Och hur den åker Och trackar varenda hamn i vanliga fall är det människor som sitter längst in längst bort och följer det här på någon avdelning och de får en gång per 10 år så är de liksom the go to guy man pratar med men deras time to shine brukar inte vara så länge för marknaden orkar inte så länge sen får vi ju se, det är klart att det är jätteallvarligt att oljan är här uppe och frågan är hur länge den kommer göra det och i vilken form det blir en lösning I think I think we still have a total L-Upper, it's fred there It's been a lot of energy, it's oil, it's pipeline So that oil will be at 10-20 dollars higher than we've done before And then I think that oil companies are all over for low They've gone very well, but their marginal sprut is in here And if we don't get a wealth destruction via börsen so it's an inflation spot I think I think that I was with when the When the price was down and everything looked bad That it would be a recession to the end If you want to see through an oil spike But We don't know how This is going to be And what the time is on ammonium And so things that are needed for So I don't think That you can't write an inflation Spike And that's all It was a good article in DI about the price of the price of the price of the price is super risk off while the price of the price is back to the normal so it's a little spread I think that the market is the one that says all clear while the other markets are quite careful I think that the market can come down Alltså, räntorna kan komma ner Alltså, det är inte total risk-off När amerikanska tioåringen Handlas om 4 ,30 Ja, men precis Så, ja, jag tycker Börsen tar ut lite väl mycket i förskott Här, får man titta på 70-talet Till exempel, så Kom ju inflationen tillbaka Det var ett oljeembargo Sen löste det sig Men inflationen var ju kvar i alla fall I många år Så, ja, man måste inte skriva av den risken in the whole thing.
29:32Some Bursen has done. And you who talked a little AI, I'm just like a little bit on this here. But I have some friends that I'm going to use this Nebius, which is a hyperscaler. The one has gone 53 % on a month. I saw CoreWeave have gone 41 % on a month. It can be like AI just eats in the way. It's all the time after the question. Then it's been going to be the same as the company will be the same as the company. How does it work? But here, I den här hyperscaler-sektorn senaste Och de får ju sådana här Ådrar på 20 miljarder dollar Från meta man har svårt att ta in de här siffrorna Men en liten spaning i alla fall Att den hyperscaler-branschen just nu är stekhet Ja och sen alla de som bygger Celestica som vi pratade om Bloom Energy Ja den gick upp idag Ja exakt Så allting däromkring verkar fortfarande vara intakt Alltså spändigt Och där är vi liksom på Vi har kommit en meter av en mil I alla datacenter Som ska byggas Folk ska adoptera AI Och nu nere på arabiska halvön Så smälldes det några datacenter också Så de ska väl byggas igen Så det kommer väl nya order därifrån Men Ja den trenden verkar intakt Oracle som har gått dåligt Var upp 10 % igår Det känns som att Det är lite sådär varannan månad i AI Om det liksom är bolagen som är noterade i den sektorn.
31:00Oracle är fortfarande ner 45 % på sex månader. Det svänger fram och tillbaka. Och så är det olika delar inom den här AI-sektorn. Jag såg att Antropic var ju förbi OpenAI till exempel nu. Det går ju att handlas lite på Hyperliquid. Det var en intressant datapunkt. Antropic? Ja, att de var förbi i värde, börsvärde. Just det, förbi OpenAI. Och snart kommer väl någon ny modell som dödar alla. Och båda de tävlar väl mot börsen. Det ska bli väldigt intressanta noteringar när de ska trycka på alla småspar eller vem det nu blir. Båda de här bolagen är värd 800 miljarder dollar. Ja, och sen makroview är ju att investeringar och kapital rör sig till den riktiga världen numera.
31:43Det är ingen som vill investera i en app. Eller kapitalet, stater och riskkapitalet. Jag har en sån här app. I the real world It's going to be things It's going to be data center It's going to be Investing and modernizing Of the physical world That must be done And in Europe we have energy system And all that And it's going to be a little inflation It's going to be a lot of people It's going to be things Bra for BNP And good for inflation Or at least that it doesn't come down on the same way. I don't see how state and so do. They have their budget - and they will go to it. For it is aftersated in the investment that must be done.
32:35And it's not that there is capital from other things. For example, mjukvareous companies. So, liquiditeter should be able to get up in the world. And so it feels like OpenAI got in 200 billion dollars what it was now. That the money The company is onoterated much longer. If people take in the money into their funds and then invest in it. Instead of it in a company, then they stop in the onoterated Antropic or OpenAI which is worth 800 billion dollars. So it should also be a little capital. Yes, it should be taken capital. When Antropic and these are going to sell and people have made 100 000 dollars then it will be a lot of capital with a lot of capital.
33:18It's a lot of capital that can place in other things. Yes, exactly. And then the money that they take in in these companies, they're very fast. Yeah. And some of these are not paying. All right, some are not total. Antropic has gone more towards B2B, so there feels a little better. Are you any other spaning? Are you short or long? Just now it's short. Börsen? All the other companies you know. It's short S &P. And it's just because we have We've taken back the whole war, the oil-up. And I don't see that much has become better. I mean, I think... I hold on to that war is not an excuse to that economy and so on will go bad.
34:07Or that liquidation is worse. But I mean that it's other things that have already been set up. I mean, we've been waiting for the Swedish consumer to come back. It's like first it was Corona, then it's it, then it's inflation. It just comes new things all the time that do not really go on. If you look at the US, the Michigan sentiment was all-time low. All-time low. I think that the world has been with me a lot for it. But I have a little bit of a doubt to understand that you think it's the worst. but it's not yet. But it shows that the consumer is maybe a little a little bit. They don't want to spend more.
34:52And they've never been a bad consumer in the USA. If you look at other data then it's about the price of the price. Why? If you're looking at the price of the price that the price was down quite a bit, it was down to 10 % and then comes the consumer's chiffon. It shows what it is that's driving consumption. That it's a wealth effect so it's not the value of the price and so, but if it goes well, they feel good and spend it and when they go down, they don't do it. It can be a interesting thing. So if the market is flat, it will still be a little bit before you see that consumption takes part. Yes, and you know, you're going to take a little bit of a winst here in the company you've taken in for swing or that you're going to do or so you're a consumer on the short-term and that's I'm not sure.
35:43So I don't know. I don't know. I want to act for taking risks when it's a euphoric. But I haven't done anything yet. I'll see if I do anything later. After we play in. Or if I just ride with it. So I've been very long-term the last two weeks. I'm going to dance the nearer. I'm going to go to the next. Innehaven, I'm going to go to the next. It's cool. The hotels, as I've talked about it on the other day, went pretty well. It's been going to stend it over 200 days. For those who follow so. trender och sånt. Amazon köpte ju ett satellitbolag. Global Star. Low Earth Orbit satelliter. So it's a fair i branschen.
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36:22Det är alltid bra. Det är väl därför OVSON och alla är uppe idag. Rymden är fortsatt hett. Skulle ju vara temat 2026. Det har inte gjort folk besvikna. Nej. Och vi har ju den stora rymdgrejen kvar. Och det är ju SpaceX IPO. Så där kan man kika. If you think it's interesting, I'm going to tell you. Yeah, another one that has been a Nelly which I don't know, there I got out my swing but there I got a price of DI. Then it went to 20 % on a month. And there you can see when it's well going to go to the end. The one was like a dead fish around 50-55. Yeah, but the one will also come in a better phase now.
37:07I'm not an expert on tjejcläder I'm not sure that Q1 is the same It's a lot of disc and it's probably Inprist and after that So all of them are fine on the football scene Yeah, maybe Snillen spekulerar here We'll go on to next week And we'll be glad to That it will be a little positive Two-gångars We'll be on a little bit of a episode next week When all has collapsed When is it Vapenvilan går ut, det är den 21a Han körde två veckor igår Jaha okej Han förlänger hela tiden Yes Sen har vi veckans fill or kill Fillen får vara en bracer Att man lyckades Hitta det Och det är väl lite av min Specialgren när man hittar någonting som inte kommer ut På skärm Det här hade ju läckt lite i kursen Men det blev en fantastisk trade Och killen it's not that you have handled so much sievers.
38:07Had this been under fingerprinting, then you just have to be the whole time. Now you are bedridden. You don't think that it can be so many crafter that you were still when you were 5 and you were going to 20. Now you have done it. So that's the big one. And my fill is well, I mean I did a little bit of trades for the week. It's cool that little in-hav i portföljen börjar vakna till liv. Och min kill är väl, men jag kortade igår och det var lite tidigt. Jag skulle ha gjort det mot stängning istället. Yes! Sen kan man kontakta oss, Facebook, Twitter, philokillpoddenetjime.com och vårt Instagram-konto kan man skriva till.
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