Avsnitt 594 - Om man var lika rik som Dart

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0:30594 av Philorkillpodden. Vi sitter i ett soligt Stockholm. Hur mår du, Lomol? Förra veckan har varit, både den här och förra veckan. Den har varit bra. Förra veckan. so we looked at a lot of sales the deal was very good they took in the money after we played in the last one take in when you can not when you need they had a very big cash but why not when you can they took in 200 million dollars to no rebate it's going to be interesting to see what they got in They have a little bit of a baker Bröderna, which is the best biotech Investors of all times When I've followed The bröderna Julian and Felix Innan how they do in their case So they tend to increase In the case with that Bolagen presterar So it's interesting to see if they To get this placing Yes I've been on my kassa I've been planning to talk about it We had Evo, iGaming Sector What are you doing here?

1:41I handled Octaves Rapport here And then I'll look at a little on Klana And then I'll look at a little on Räntorna It's a little bit of your home That's what we're talking about Then you say you're going short And that's the pitch you're going to draw I'm actually not going short How does it feel? I'm going to talk about We have a lot of fun to talk about So I think we'll be able to get started.

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4:16Let's start with Evo. There came the afterlängtable budpliktsbud. He feels like the slugest even in Stana, Kenneth Dart. It was probably no one who expected to have a monster budget here. and that he could put up 90 billion dollars to on board. It was the highest price he had been paid the last six months. Or what the regler said. So then you got a fine cut in the market. The market went well enough on this. The market was down a little. Then it came back. Then it came ABG with a 1000 kronor. Here we have a little iGaming sentiment. How it works in this business. so that Betsson, when he's very strong, no one is going to be on Turkey.

5:00Now he's like in on DART, it's a return to buy, now you don't care about the svarts market anymore. Now is EVO a little in in flow. It was exactly what I had thought about it. That you buy a return for very quickly, you get up all the salespeople, and then goes back to the actual. I was not able to stop it here on the way, so I didn't get back when it went exactly as I thought. But it's a perfect summer-poss for those who took it. The stock market is almost up in 800 from 790, you are near in 550 for not so long time. Yes, I'm long. Good luck, thanks to you, you took my summer trade. Exactly. 1000 kronor känns ju jämnt.

5:45It's just to listen to ABG there. Absolutely, I'll take it. It's a very big to atercoop and atercoop has metts, at least in the beginning so it feels like when the sales lifts off and disappears so it becomes a little more after that I think that the most interesting was, on the budget I didn't think I did it so much No Okay, it's a negative premium But it's still like a But on AB's köpräck Then it's up to 5 % So it says a lot of how many sellers are still there What I thought was interesting It was that Mikael Olsson on DI had a question What happened then For in Tobacco-Bolagen So he bought under a year 3-4 years and then suddenly became Tobacco-Bolagen super-heta And then he got to kräng out all this So he's perfect when he has him as a shop Now he's got 30 % It was not, it was not, it was like he did it Snabbt or longsamt?

6:48Snabbt, he had a tobacco very long Yes, but longsikt Någon has apparently sold in We should come to what he has bought more But like, någon has sold in iGaming, that he should do the exact same thing here But then it's still not He's not the youngster, so we can see if he Yes, but what is endgame? He thinks we're legacy What is endgame? For that Någon should then go to his own, so Han måste räkna med om 3-10 år Kassaflöden sprutar in i det här bolaget Man kan återköpa liknande Men ändå på något sätt att den dagen Han ska välta ut 30 % av Evo Som han lyckades göra i tobaksbolagen För helt plötsligt var de med Vitt snus och liknande Hittade de en ny vertikal Då helt plötsligt kom det in nya investerare Som kunde lösa ut Dart Så han är perfekt Han har gett sig in i hacks Det blev förra veckans en av mina bästa trades Tackar Red Eye-mannen på Twitter Som hade hittat det här Very nice That everyone had missed It seems like it had been laid there for a few days And he had been buying for 130 million And then I was going to buy it That he had bought 5 % of DraftKings He feels like a game-assist He said, I don't want to buy Evo now So now I just need to buy something else And Flatter has he already seen before So he has over 100 million dollars In iGaming-posses And it's a little like How he did it in Tobax Yeah, he did he buy it in several different I think it's a nice thing that you see a such a actor that did it in Tobacco-Ballag and made a fantastic series of new-gaming-Ballag because this is a test that we have babbled on with the podcast since before he came in I think he listened to it No, it's not but it's a nice thing I take it as an indication that the test that you have thought to be If the pineapple land is stuck, then unplugged.

8:43The visionary parts have been turned praises from possible devenues, to value colleges. The journey is gonna happen then. The game has already lain on and the relevance of your records. If you can always see the convenience of of your printer long, then although it's a strong post-based company, the investment is still intended to think it is interesting. while the investor who was vana at that the market was up every day of the end of the market, of course because it was a high pit and momentum and so on, those who are vana with momentum-actiers, they left. And in that shift, when they two are going to meet and get to the market, then they tend to go down to the market.

9:29For value-investeders, they don't pay for momentum directly. No Snarare tvärtom De är ju Mycket mer konservativa När det kommer till värdering Och sånt Ja men det känns väl som Att han är Jag har inte räknat Ingen vet väl exakt Men snart borde han väl Lärma sig Break even här Och i tobaksbolagen Så kom ju mycket av avkastningen Genom åren Via aktieåterköp Och utdelning Det var väl liksom Aldrig någon såhär Swish match Skrevs det ju aldrig om Som om det var Kursrusare Kursrusare Eller någon darling Det var väl snarare På slutet lite När det började komma bud in the way when they found a sign he probably didn't nöjate him here in Haxo, he's quite tough he's quite tough and he's quite afraid that all insider could be a big deal in the big deal here we have a buyout who could be able to to go up this and here he's still in a little bit less than a company so it's very interesting who's who's going to ratta this this it's really it's really Egentligen görs ju hela den här sektorn bäst onoterad.

10:35När AI är hett och så, de här bolagen går ju inte bra på börsen just nu. Så man får kolla fem år bort var den här sektorn hamnar. Ja, jag tror att det är sån vi som antar. Och det är ju en annan... Man ska ju nästan se det som... Om man ska värdera dem, ska man värdera dem som att de är privata. Kanske. Just för att man ska titta på kassaflödet och hur mycket kan de dela ut och sånt. and it's like an entrepreneur I think and if you look at the tobacco on the market on it it was very attractive he took in tobacco for so long so they were quite after many of the big big right-winged which was in the end of the 90s around 2000 tobacco industry they didn't get ESG and then the value of the very low and then there was no one in the area and then there was a fantastic opportunity and if you look at this branch, it's a game it's not even ESG compilative but I mean if you have been a piss long that people have cancer so it's better to be easier than to take and as a result I can say that if you have 10 years it's still 80-90 % is offline.

12:00And it's hard to think in Sweden. When you're playing on a casino. But if you look at 10 years you have a huge increase of income that everyone can go online. And therefore it's weird that Evo doesn't grow. Because live casino and online grows. Now we talk about this just in form of Evo. And if you look at his bet then you must say that he is diversified. I sektorn Draftkings Det är ju en operatör, Evo är ju en Leverantör, Haxo är också en leverantör Flatter är något alltihop Både och Han vill bara ha en bred palett Och tror väl att Las Vegas Offline ska Gå mot online kan man ju tänka Ja precis, nej men det jag menar är Att han äger ju flera olika Så på så sätt Så blir han väl lite mer Immun mot kanske specific things.

12:59Yeah, if we hoppar vidare, rapportperioden... Not because he's super diversified, he's just 5-6 but still. Have you handled anything in rapportperioden?

13:11Not a short-term aspect in rapportperioden. No, I handled Octave, where I had minskat ner my position and had just a little in front of me. And that was right in the beginning. Then came a report where they had to get their guidance a little and they thought that the big deal of the big deal they didn't know if it was in the end of the year or the next year and then they got to get their organic growth. The actuality went down extremely much on this. It had gone well in but it was more because the SaaS-related had gone well. That was my feeling. The actuality is just now very surprising. The svenx taxis will go out of index or index at the end of the month so that it's a little extra press and then it's a stock from the USA so it was under 15 % or something when analyzing the report was in line some things were good some things were better some things were done after so I bought a lot of money it was not a little bit of a fund or something that didn't have it it was it was the end of the month but it's like many I think it's often that Man passar på när de kan passa på På rapporten Det omsattes ju extremt mycket i Sverige Det känns som att alla har väl konverterat här Och sen när det var mot USA Sen gick det från 15 ner till typ 2 ner Och det var ju faktiskt en bank som Skickade ut ett mail Att de trodde den skulle vara ner 2 % När den var ner 15 Och det var SB1, man brukar alltid skratta åt Anlutningas gissningar, men det här var ju snyggt För sen gick den till minus 2 Nu har den kommit ner efteråt här So now I bought it My money, sold it And left it I was on a football training I didn't have any position there And the one was going to be And now I've come to get it again So now I've got a little bit But you can see that it's extremely weak in Sweden And it's like this with SaaS AI It's like this to be a bit of a Now it's going to be super strong Then it's going to be a SaaS-like Now it's going to be a Now it's going to be a Now it's going to be a Now it's going to be a So now I've got a position.

15:23The one doesn't feel so long-signed. You'll see what it will be done in two days. But I'm going to look at the month's shift there so I want to look at the index when it's going to be the index - change. What do you say all the way about AI - The ones have gone extremely strong in the second. It came out a little of the 13F, I think it was when they were sent out to the USA what they were doing. It's a little bit of their holdings, but it's a long delay. so in the middle of Augusti so you got to know what all of them after half-staffs and then it was that he was he who was he who sprang his AI-fond then you could see what he was and then you could think about how he was today so many classics but then it has been different I think it's an interesting parameter and it's very special that it's so long delay so all can have been so far from it but many many have been a big big big David Tepper or Ackman had köpt Visa and Mastercard.

16:24It will be updated. Exactly. Peter Thiel had köpt some oil company. Yes, and they can already be over. It's just that it's content. Just in the USA are the 13th filings a little bit. So you must calculate back to the English. If they have bought it under Q2. They can have bought it 1 April. and then someone will act on it in August it's different in the day it's a dinosaur when you follow after it so it can be a lot of people that can be back in the head that these numbers can be very slated or these numbers are very slated but I think it's good to hold on because there are many very good investors that follow and if you know with you that you follow a long-signed investerable and you know how to invest in so that it's worth it.

17:29We are sponsored by Pareto Securities and there we will continue to support for their fantastic funders that they have to do with 0 ,025 percent in courtage on Nordic Akties and you will also have en fri tillgång till deras aktieanalys. Det har ju varit perfekt här under rapportperioden. Kommer de ha nyheter så är de väldigt snabba ut med en kommentar på de bolagen. Och det rör sig ju mycket i oljevärlden. De är ju väldigt bra inom råvaror så då är det väldigt intressant att läsa deras take där på råvarupriset olja, koppar med mera. Ja men precis. De är ju ett mäklarhus. Erbjudandet gäller ju året ut.

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19:40Just understand that meta had overcapacitet and then it就 BLK and then we tried nothing exactly and then Snow and then he failed and Moto and so He saves his company and then he was on his phone and now he is he was Hos just small but not the money is also the showing so it's not Yeah, but a lot of people are on the top of it. It's not a lot of volume on the market. The market is not a lot of the company. Dagsomsättning. So I think they've done it a little easier for us to say all clear, it was just all about Leopold's fel. Then it came very many reports and they've been very good. Ja, exactly.

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21:32And so is it with Gruvor also. We want to have all the tungmetallers, but we don't want to be in my community. Yes, a little so.

21:42So, as it looks like Trump administration doesn't do a good between-laws and then it's maybe more difficult. AI-sektorn får mer motvind regulatoriskt än vad den har haft. Kanske är positivt, vem vet. Eller inte. Men för sektorn så blir det ju tuffare. Och jag tror att man vill till börsen innan det. Det blir intressant hur de tänker här med SpaceX. Det var ju liksom jättelockup. Inte alls öppna högt och sen typ bara gått ner. Att så här, är det målet igen nu? Att man ska bara gynna dem. Tidiga investerare Att man ska bränna retail och alla som går in i IPO Eller?

22:26Målet är väl inte Att bränna retail som ska gå in i IPO Men målet är att Bolagen ska in i alla indexar direkt Eller så snabbt som möjligt För är du inte med i index idag så är du ingenting Vad händer sen då? Då har du inga köpare kvar när index har köpt in Så brukar det tendera att bli Men Man vill ju in i index För att passiva flöden are now a majority on the market. So the passive months of the index funds that people spend in it comes in a month with money that you buy blind. For a index fund doesn't look at the price. You just buy it. It doesn't matter how much it is. And there you want to be.

23:08For then you always buy it in the market. So they have game it. So I don't know if Buffett says that I just want to buy index and it's the best way to buy it. but I wonder if it's not with his of his so maybe even index it starts to be very forked it's forked and it feels like many firm with all indexes but it doesn't see when you look at indexes I've had some discussion about this and all the I was going to ask that indexes are blind and the value of it is. And it is low-up. And it is low-up. I was asking what is it that should do that reverse it? That it goes to hell. And it doesn't know. But it always looks when something goes so well.

24:03It looks like small companies. They're going to go down in the evanguette. And it's a little bit like that. Någonstans is it a risk. And it's not a free lunch. and it can be what's that you have real-lunner have gone down the last year people have it tough majority of the US majority of the population have it not so and to the end it will be revolution it's not that people have to take out to get out of the index it means that the economy has already den har vikit, men det visar sig inte i börsen än för att folk har fortsatt inte cancelat sitt månadsspar än. Men skulle det hända, hur skulle det bli om det är reverserat, att folk behöver ta ut pengar från sitt sparande?

24:52Då får du ju lite som 2022. Det var väl en försmak på det. För det var ju också en väldigt sjuk nedgång på det sättet att det bara gick ner hela. Det bara tuggar ner. Och det är väl det som den här index trenden har ju skapat. is that when flödet vänder it will be non-stop on both sides. But just now you want to be with index. Yeah, that's the whole thing. Let's talk about what you can do if you sit with a big cash which I did here until today. I thought we could do a little case-tavling. You can have a chance to us. The company will be over 500 million I market cap It should be a good Or that it's a good trigger here I'm going to talk about 3-6 months I'm going to talk about Trigger So not the most Skumrask-bolag It should be some kind of quality So I can go to next week Maybe out 5 people We can drop here So I can get a little inspiration I started to look at Klana They came with a report today So I thought I'd take a little Speck here I got a little mini-posse The guy went down 20 % so it was a good spawning of me thank you they had come with two good reports and now they came with a really good report but their guidance was bad I feel like they're trying to get a new revolution it's buy now, pay later they've come with a big deal with JP Morgan they've come with Apple that all of them who want to buy their phone they'll do it if they want to pay with Klan and it's a very strange act for then there was nothing And then they släpped some new perks to their court, because they were trying to concur with Amex and Revolut.

26:43Then I got 10 % up. Today on a good report with a little bit of a German-guided that's going to a bad German-guided consumer, so I'm at the end of the day of the day of the day of the day of the day of the day of the day of the day of the day. So here I'm at around 20 % minus, I've got a lot more than I've got a little bit of a post on the day of the day. We'll see where it's going to be. The market is extremely volatile. till. Marknaden hade prisat in att den skulle röra sig 20%. Och det känns som att de har lite kommunikation. Det känns som att de slog på den extra mycket för att CFO och CMO gick de ut med efter rapporten, skulle lämna bolaget.

27:19Nu söker de en CFO i New York. Det låter väl ganska logiskt i och med att de är noterade i USA. Det lär vara sjukt mycket olika saker som har med deras USA notering. Så att göra. Jag tycker de är på en intressant resa här that it will become a form of neobank. Revolut is worth 800 billion and Klarna is worth 60 after the crash. So they came in on 40, they went to 12 up to 20 and now they are in 15 and 25 here. And now they guide them for next to the Kvartal. It was a investeringskvartal. They had already lanserated so many different tjänster and things that they try to go bred than this buy now and pay later.

28:00And it feels like, and it's still It's true that they are right. It's not that they are right. And they go to buy now and pay later. 10-15 years away, it's not that big banks are not a big part of banks. And when all of them are going to pay later. But I think it's better to be able to get a lot of new services. I think it's interesting that the tysk consumer in the same way is an interesting sparing. How do they do that? I think first, are they macro-economers? Then you think that today is... They've seen half of this quarter. ...and August. So they see where it has been to be a lot of in Tyskland.

28:43You said that the tysk bil industry you were talking about in China that they were talking about. It does it. But it's not. The price of the price of the economy so you don't see any bad tysk consumer in the price of the price of the price. It's the tax, you mean? Yes, it's the tax. No, it doesn't do anything. So many tysk konsument companies. No, the tysk börs is not in Germany. So it doesn't speck the tysk economy. But it's a little panic in the tysk media. You are the only one who sits on the Spiegel and says it. Exactly. And there is panic in the politics. For the industry and all the under-leverantors to the industry.

29:28It's like a big company It's like a big company I mean, many of these Knews and other people When they can't compete It's like a Factor has even come with a For example on that Fabriker should sell to Kinesis To Rheinmetall That would be a Massa Yeah, it's And so But even Factor has even Come with a For a For a That if we sell Fabriken to Kinesis Biltillverkaren So can we To be bilarna här. It can be an interest from kineserna to do it. If they are there, they don't let the bill out. But as it looks like now, and the competition that comes from the kinesis... Kina has been running out new SUVs and everything all the time now.

30:17So it's a very competition. And it's not... It's hard to say that we'll take fight with Kina when they decide to mass-producerer. Fråga solceller, textil. Alla branscher de ger sig in i kvadrar de ju. En annan Kinaspanning är Unitree, som är ett av världens största humanoid-robotsbolag. De ska börsnatras imorgon på Shanghai-börsen. Det var övertecknat 4000 gånger. De verkar ha gjort det till någon Telia, fast i Kina. Folkaktie. I saw the CCXI The robot-spack That we talked about In the summer They had a dip They had a dip from 2018 to 2012 They didn't buy it But it seems like it's a real In robot-sector Hexagon came with a good report It was not because of the humanoid Ion-robot they have But it's a interesting sector And then we'll see what it will be with the Unitary If it's going to spill over on a certain way You can't handle Shanghai-actiers So it's just It's just to look at that something will have gone up much But it's not to me so much No, but it's interesting to follow I saw a guy Or a friend on Twitter That's about X-peng And they're doing biling and so But they're looking very far And the acties have gone pretty bad So they're still sitting and bevaking and try to get a spanish.

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32:55So they are leading on that. They should have a expoing against the fact that they are. And it's a lot that talks about ralzen in crypto. Either you have Bitcoin or other crypto that are going to be able to that you want to tokenize togångar. Exactly. We see it with Calshi. Polymarket There will be more and more There and you can invest On IPO But even And sell for the market So it's going to grow And then Virtune Chainlink Then you can get Exponering for Chainlink The market is on the market Just like an aktie Or another market And the market can be via ISK och kapitalförsäkring hos banker och nätmäklare.

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35:12The third quarter is huge. There are many volumes that need to be done. And then we have Jackson Hole next week. And it's interesting because it's Kevin Walsh, central bankchef in the USA. It's his first Jackson Hole. He has come in with... He has an image of that he is hawkish. He is so high-acted that he is not able to increase. And Trump is just about the increase. It's why he has voted for him. so it's exactly so

35:46Kevin Walsh came in with a high-acted tone that I'm going to be with now he's not a high but he's not on the way he's got two inflation-siffers in a row which are low-low in all the way in the way in all the way in the way all the other people who live in the normal world would be able to write that it's still an inflation but oavsett so there was inflation no, two months in a row so then you can't really go ahead and also the NFP-siffre for two weeks so then you can't go ahead so it's going to be interesting what he's going to say about Jackson Hole and if he still should keep his hawkish image I think it's a little bit because all central banks come in with much economic theory i ryggen alla har Volcker som någon idol, exakt, någon husgud och sen håller de den retoriken fram tills marknaden faktiskt går ner ordentligt och då blir alla en Greenspan som stimulerar och jag tänker väl att Kevin Ward ska vara med om samma sak även Greenspan kommer faktiskt in och var jättehåkish so that heaten money dov miel