In The Hand of Dante: Pussycats and Purple Prose | SVU

30:46Matt Singer. He doesn't have an assistant. I did. I sure don't. All I'm saying is this movie. Now, I don't know what Nick Tosh's life in 1998, 1999 was like, but this is not what a New York-based magazine and book writer lives like. Sure. He's also involved in many murders, which I'm going to hope the real Nick Toshis was not. Well, you know, it's fiction. This is a word of fiction. I don't have a problem with that, per se. But you're right. The depiction of it is so romanticized. It's like he's got a huge apartment in Manhattan. He walks around in his underwear. He travels the globe. I'm like, no, you sit on your ass and you try to make your deadline.

31:28And it's just give me a break. It's funny that you mentioned his lifestyle. There is that one scene where he's like in a car. He may even be smoking at this point. Who knows? He's smoking all the time. But he's talking to Gal Gadot, the assistant. And she's like, yeah, we got one check for$3 ,000. And I was like, I almost, if I had had a drink, I would have spit it out and been like, you got a check for$3 ,000 as like a writer of magazine articles? What? That's way more fanciful than finding the original manuscript of the Divine Comedy. That's unbelievable. It's pretty unbelievable. Now, the other thing that's unbelievable is that the scenes as Dante are boring as hell.

32:10Like, I could barely pay attention to them. But he does go to visit his, I don't even know what his relationship is with this old man. This old man who gives him confidence to write about God. And it's implied that he's like a mentor, his inspiration. He's meant to be an old Jewish sage, I think, if you read between the lines. I think so. He talks about Judaism and Christianity. And then he says, if somebody saw us together. If anyone finds out we're together, we're in trouble. Yes. So that's Martin Scorsese dressed as a cross between Gandalf and Gimli because they give him Gandalf hair and a Gandalf beard and a Gimli schnoz.

32:49It's just amazing. It's incredible. At first, I'm like, is that Scorsese? Oh, my. Did you hear the voice? I mean, there's only one person. Yeah, the voice is unmistakable. I go, oh, my God, it's Scorsese. And I'm like, this is amazing. He looks preposterous. But. Right. Wait, wait, but he also says things, like, everything he says is like these ponderous. A platitude, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you have entered the sigh. Right. You have become the poem. We must not mistake the revelation that our being is bereft for the delusion that we have lost that of which we've always been bereft. Such a revelation is a blessing.

33:25It's not to be mourned. It's just the most purple prose you could imagine. But Marty sells it. Marty sells it because to me, he is like a sage figure. He's our Buddha. He really is. And like when he's delivering this gobbledygook lines, I'm buying it. Come forth from the tomb of your seeking into the light and be filled with the scent of every blade of grass of your soul and the every moment of life. He really does say stuff like this. Come forth and embrace her. I transcribed it from the subtitles. Because I was just going like, what is he talking about? But when he says it with his New York accent, which is why The Last Temptation of Christ was so brilliant, because he had Harvey Keitel as Judas Iscariot saying lines just like what you just said, as Harvey Keitel, not Britishing it up.

34:19Right. Which is annoying because in the flashback scenes, they have Oscar Isaac British it up. Well, this is another, this was something I was going to bring up is that, yeah, some of the characters are speaking with, they're speaking Italian with subtitles. Some people are speaking with heavy, thick Italian accents. And then they get to Oscar Isaac and he's talking like he's still Victor Frankenstein. He's just doing that kind of vague, vague British European guy. A bad choice. And Schnabel should be a shame. But when Marty's on the screen, it's mesmerizing. He really sells it. And, you know, he is a man of God.

34:54He's met the Pope. he's a he's a pious man you go watch silence again right he believes whatever it was he he read that script and said yes i understand this and he he delivered so i thought that was great and then the other thing i wanted to mention is in the modern uh times of the film they're they they have the manuscript and there's so much of it is like oscar isaac saying to the mafioso So Malkovich is like, we got to get, we can't just say it's an old manuscript. We got to get it confirmed. And Malkovich is like, what? What do you mean? He's like, we got to get experts to sign off on it.

35:30He's like, all right, I guess. So he goes to what I imagine are the reasons that we got to go to the, Oscar Isaac is like, we got to go to the University of Arizona. What? The University of Arizona is the most respected place for carbon dating in the world. so he flies they're in Venice Verona Florence they go to like Tempe Arizona and they go to this big warehouse where there's these wacky microscopes and stuff yeah and that scene was cool like I gotta say yeah I was like what is this this is really weird and in a book I bet you that scene is great like him going from the mob boss to Arizona but like in the movie it's just like it's not enough it's just the movie isn't good but there's so many weird things to talk about that I I kind of am glad we watched it, but it's not good.

36:20Yes, it is both, I would say, one of the most interesting things we have watched on this podcast so far and possibly the worst. It occupies this strange area where it is this beautiful, idiosyncratic vision that doesn't make a lick of sense and is strange and boring. And, you know, because I really do like Julian Schnabel's movies a lot. yeah right some of the diving bell and the butterfly had a profound impact on my life like literally changed my life wow how did it change your life i walked out of the screening of that movie and i said i'm gonna propose to my wife what wow really it lit i was the time's a wasting what am i doing with myself i'm gonna propose i mean i had been kind of thinking about it but it was like there's i'm not i'm not waiting anymore i'm and and i started planning that day That's amazing.

37:10So that movie, I mean, and this artist, I respect him immensely. So I am sitting here. I am trying. I know we've made a lot of jokes. I am really trying because I know his movies. I know his work. He makes movies about artists and art and the impulse to create, about seeing the world, sometimes in his movies, very literally through the eyes of people who create beautiful things, as if he is trying to like communicate to the audience how like creation begins with an act of perception. And to some extent, I think all of that is in in the hand of Dante. I think I mean, it is a movie about an artist.

37:54It's about two artists, I guess. Sure, sure. But neither one really creates much of anything in this movie. and any of the resonance from those earlier movies that mean so much to me uh in this one it's just like buried beneath so much extraneous stuff even the things like martin scorsese rambling on and look i thought he always remember i was like i thought of him as like uh gene hackman in young frankenstein like the old man the hermit that's right that's right you know even that which is kind of like yeah you kind of can get into the groove it's like does it have to be 45 minutes of that like so here's the question if this was not homework like if if you did not have to watch this to to talk about it on svu would you have made it through to the end be honest probably not yeah i have to be honest and say yeah and if it was any like it was most directors if it didn't have julian schnabel's name on it zero chance i would have the only reason i might have made it through is because I really do like Julian Schnabel's work a lot of the time.

38:54And I kind of feel like I owe it to him. He's going to pull this off somehow. There's going to be some ultimate point. And then there's the shot of Gal Gadot as Botticelli's Venus, which is just like - Oh, we didn't even mention that. It's like Terry Gilliam did that already. I mean, come on. It's awful. It's so embarrassing. It's not just that he has, you know, the birth of Venus with Gal Gadot in it. He cuts. Do you remember what he cuts from that, too? No. Literally, back to back, we have a vision, a scene of like a heavenly, angelic vision of Gal Gadot recreating the birth of Venus to Oscar Isaac as the author, Nick, in his hotel room watching 9-11 happen.

39:41What? So that's our review of In the Hand of Dante. take a spin because it's something, you know, it's a big swing and it's fascinating. But just be forewarned. Neither of us particularly cared for it. Be warned like the pussycat. You need to be on your toes. Tempest fugitive. Time flies. Every man's only savior dwells within himself. And now, another appliance triumph from our friends at Grand Appliance. With two dogs, every wash load came out covered in fur. I went into Grand Appliance looking for a fix, and they recommended the Maytag Top Load with Pet Pro Hair Removal System. They had it in stock and installed it days later.

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42:59And like I was saying during our review, I think he does have a gift. He has a lot of gifts, but like one of the things I think he does very well is point of view camera work and putting you inside the mind of a character. And if you're someone like me who grew up reading Roger Ebert and thinking about movies as empathy machines and things like that, I think then you have to like Julian Schnabel's movies because he really does let you see the world through the eyes of other people. That's something that I really love about his movies or at least his good movies. This one, In the Hand of Dante, maybe not so much.

43:34So the movie that I am going to recommend is one that I really loved from a few years ago. You mentioned it, obviously, because you ran down his entire filmography before. But it is not. It did OK, I guess, but it certainly did not have the same level of reaction as a diving bell in the butterfly. It is at Eternity's Gate from 2018. And it's Willem Dafoe as Vincent van Gogh. And it actually does co-star Dante himself. Oscar Isaac plays Paul Gauguin in the movie. And it has a lot of that amazing kind of POV camera work that I love about The Diving Bell and the Butterfly here. And it's kind of blended in this movie with this very interesting handheld close-up camera technique.

44:20The cinematographer of the movie is Benoit Delhomme. and what these shots do that they, there's all these like kind of closeups and like right up in the face of Defoe and looking around and then cutting to his point of view is that it just, it makes you like aware of the world around you, the visual quality of the everyday. And I don't, I have no, I'm not a Van Gogh scholar. I don't know if this was how Van Gogh saw the world. Maybe it's how Julian Schnabel sees the world. Maybe it's not. I don't know. But when I watch this movie and other movies by Schnabel, it just makes me more aware of the world around me and how things look.

45:03And it kind of makes me suddenly kind of perceive the beauty in the everyday that I otherwise take for granted. You know, like in this in this movie at Attorney's Gate, there's a lovely scene early in the film where we're with Van Gogh. He's he's like looking. He wants to create a new kind of painting. And he is he is like left on on Oscar Isaac's suggestion. He has like left the city to try to go into the country. And he's in this room and the wind is howling outside. And he's like, it's cold and he's taking off his shoes and he's like rubbing his feet. He's got holes in his socks. and then suddenly he looks down and like his shoes are just kind of sitting on the floor and he starts painting his shoes and there is this beautiful suddenly there's a painting there and there's a beautiful painting and it's you know it's kind of inspired by one of the real van gogh paintings and it does it connects the dots for you as a viewer it's like the line between inspiration and work and art and greatness and you know and a lot of it is um you know a character study as well, but you get these beautiful point of view shots.

46:10You get these amazing outdoor locations. At times you feel like you kind of have like not only stepped into Van Gogh's mind, but like stepped into one of his paintings or something. It really casts this beautiful spell. You're Vincent. Yes. Sales brother. I'm Paul Gauguin. We have to start a revolution. Do you understand? We have to create a new vision, a new way of painting. I spent all my life alone in a room. I'd like to find a new light for paintings that we haven't yet seen. You know, the line that Van Gogh says is, I'd like to find a new light for paintings we haven't seen yet. And then you follow him as he kind of tries to do that.

46:50And I think Schnabel films, when they work, they have a little of that quality. You feel like you're seeing things that you haven't quite captured or seen captured on screen before. And as bad as a lot of the acting in the hand of Dante is, Willem Dafoe is so good as Van Gogh in At Attorney's Gate. He's like 40 years too old for the part. Who cares? He's amazing. His expressions, the way he looks at the world, his painting. Good adaptation because Kirk Douglas' Lust for Life is a movie of its time. Sure, I've seen that. it's not a bad movie yeah but like you might think at first like another van gogh movie it's like no this is a completely different kind of movie it's not like like right now on stars there's a new adaptation of amadeus and i've just seen clips and every time i see a clip i'm like why are they doing this why are they why are they bothering we talked about amadeus a couple weeks ago it's an absolute masterpiece they're not doing anything new with the story of mozart whereas this is very very different from from lust for life and uh yes yeah it's it's yeah it's a good rec seg good rec okay that is my rec where can one stream it is streaming right now i watched about half of it last night and got kind of swept up in it all over again on tubi to be to be yes you know we're gonna you gotta you gotta endure an occasional and quite jarring commercial break but if you don't want to pay to watch it that is somewhere you can stream it you know there's a lot of to be going on in in our house right now when i'm in the other room i'm not watching it with her but my wife what's she watching was a couple of weeks ago or was i don't know something inspired i think she saw something on instagram was chuckling and she says you know i've never actually seen this show and i should have because it was you know she was alive when it was on and It was very, very popular.

48:45So she has been watching. Is this your recommendation? No, this is not my recommendation. This is another anecdote. I'm sharing a story. We're going to add in the story. I'm sharing a story. We're going to add in the sting. The Jordan Hoffman anecdote sting, Sam, goes right here.

49:01So I hear it from the other room, and I hear her laughing and chuckling. My wife has been watching from episode one, Dynasty.

49:12wow which is all free on to be and then later in the day i say so what's because like she'll she'll i'll be working and and it'll be night and and she'll like blaze through five episodes i'll say what's going on with the carrington family now and she'll say well you will never believe this oh my word and she says these things that are just like you know it's dynasty it's like it's silly soap opera so it's like one preposterous event after that i'm like wow all that and just in just five episodes. It goes, no, no, no. That was just one episode. You know, it just goes on and on and on. When they're nice, maybe they're the place.

49:48Well, the sensational season premiere of Dynasty. My God, that's my mother. The shocking testimony from the past. A lie. She's lying. And revenge that could shatter the Dynasty. She picked this day to come back. To do Blake Carrington's grave. Maybe we should just become the Dynasty cast. We should watch the Dynasty cast. There's a lot of people that fall downstairs and there's a lot of people who get kidnapped. There's a lot of kidnapping on Dynasty. When you got a Dynasty, I mean, you got to keep it going. So that's what's going on in Tubi. Let me tell you what my recommendation is. What's your recommendation for our rec set this week?

50:18I'm just going big. I went with my gut, and at first I'm like, don't just do that, that's too easy. I'm like, no, it's the greatest movie. So I am an Oscar Isaac fan. I really like the guy, to the point that it took me a while to realize this movie sucked. I was rooting for him. A lot of people thought he was the weak. He's very committed. You can't say he's not giving it his all. I just think he's, like, I think he and I would be friends. I think he's a nice guy. I like Oscar Isaac. He's very handsome. He is handsome. There were people who felt that he was the weak link in Frankenstein, and I thought, no, I thought he was good in Frankenstein.

50:52You thought he was the weak link in Frankenstein. A little bit. All right. Well, I disagree. Anyway. Sam's giving thumbs down. I think he's giving thumbs down to me, but. Good. He should. Yeah. Anyway, I'm looking back at, I'm like, what, you know, and Oscar Isaac, you know, he also did a very interesting thing it came out the height of the pandemic so no one saw it it was a hbo um adaptation of scenes from a marriage with um yes uh jessica chastain pretty damn good i thought anyway i'm going big okay what are you where are you going he's always gonna when when oscar isaac passes away this will be the movie he'll be remembered for and it's okay because it came early in his career but it's like when when orson welles died legacy when orson welles died he was charles foster kane and that's okay because it was a masterpiece oscar isaac will always be lewin davis and inside lewin davis is a movie that only gets better every time i see it and i've seen it now probably five or six times it really is i might even say it's it's tied for first place among the coen brothers best i don't know if it is their best but it's tied for first place it's up there it's up there i agree it's up there and the thing about oscar isaac's performance is he's doing several things at once he's a pain in the ass and he's not a nice guy but you love him at least i do and you're rooting for him even though he's a schnook to the people around him he's he's mean he probably kills a cat he he doesn't fetch the cat that that leaves the car He leaves the cat in the snow, which is the most devastating scene in a movie for me because I do like cats.

52:33You know, I can watch people get shot all day long. But if I see something bad happen to a cat, it's all over for me. And, you know, it's just but it's just a very subtle movie, even though it has these big, funny scenes. Like, you know, it's got the funny scene with Adam Driver and Justin Timberlake where they're singing, please, Mr. Kennedy, don't shoot me into space. It's very funny. It's got all the stuff of him trudging in the snow. it's very big it's got the big showdown with f murray abraham but the movie really sings in these small little moments it's just reaction shots of listening of watching his face as he gets more and more bad news when he goes to the gore finds house and they make him sing for his supper and he doesn't want to do it but he feels guilty because they are being nice to him and just the look on his face because they're the only people that are giving him any help mitch gore find of course played by the way by Ethan Phillips Neelix from Star Trek Voyager and I have a funny story about that because I know Ethan Phillips a little bit from my work in Star Trek and um

53:42Ethan Phillips got Maybe we could start using the Star Trek red alert klaxon to note when Jordan awkwardly interjects Star Trek into a conversation that doesn't involve it. Ethan Phillips - Maybe Sam, maybe a little - Ethan Phillips told me this story on a Star Trek podcast. He got the gig as Mitch Gorfine and he knew that Oscar Isaac was going to be cast as Lewin Davis, but they hadn't met yet. And he was at some event somewhere and Oscar Isaac was there and he was getting a drink at the bar and Ethan Phillips goes over to him. And Ethan Phillips is just like, if people are going who's Ethan Phillips again google him you know that face he was on Benson for 17 years you know he's one of those guys that everybody knows he's in a million movies uh but probably made most of his money as being Neelix where he had all this makeup on where you don't he's an alien he's a Talaxian so he goes over to the bar and stands next to Oscar Isaac and he starts talking to him as if uh like he's in character and like Oscar Isaac is like who is this weird man talking to me about like music he's like and he goes oh by the way i'm mitch gore fine i'm a professor at columbia university i'm pleased to meet your acquaintance and then oscar ozick is like no way oh awesome and then they gave a big hug it's like we're gonna be in a movie together so anyway it's a nice story uh i love the movie and what i what what something i mean i i'm very interested in the the topic you know uh the folk revivalism scene of the 60s the Greenwich Village scene.

55:16You know, there are very loose elements of the movie inside Llewyn Davis that are based on, what's his name? Dave Van Ronk, who was a folk singer from back in the day, who actually I met once or twice, believe it or not. I once was in a... It was pouring rain and I was on Bleecker Street.

55:40You were online at Sundance. And I went underneath an awning because it was pouring and I'm under an awning I don't have as a summertime I don't have an umbrella and then another man runs under the awning and I look it's Dave Van Ronk and I didn't know if I should say anything or not and I didn't but I was just I was just talking I'm like I'm talking to Dave Van Ronk right now he's not a household name but cool guy anyway um the point I want to make is this there's a line in Inside Llewyn Davis that Joel and Ethan Coen wrote that is the most insightful line of writing ever about art. And it goes like this.

56:21It's after he sings a song. He's at the end of the movie. He's kind of sad. He knows his life has fallen apart. And he finishes the song. He sings, Hang Me, Oh, Hang Me. It's so beautiful. And then he just kind of mumbles to the audience. If it was never new and it never gets old, then it's a folk song. And it's like when you come up with a line like that it's like whoa that's pretty heavy shit man. If it was never new and it never gets old then it's a folk song. And the way that Oscar Isaac throws the line away as if it's nothing he just spits it out and gets off the stage. If it was never new and it never gets old then it's a folk song.

57:01That's why the guy will always be one of the great actors even if he makes pieces of junk like In the Hand of Dante. I will always be there for Oscar Isaac. and you can stream that it's a great pick yeah where can you stream it for free if you're a schnorrer you can stream it for free on hoopla or canopy canopy with your with your um uh library card but if you want to pay a few bucks it's on apple and fandango at home formerly known as voodoo which leads me to believe that it may be on bazooka and very soon it will be available on bazooka that's where you can watch it but i'm sure i'm sure everybody anybody anybody who's enough of a film nerd to listen to this show has seen this movie and loves it nobody i know one person who doesn't like the movie i'll tell you off the air but we'll oh boy one guy doesn't like can't wait to hear i can't wait to hear about that but yeah that's a great it's a great pick we got uh there's a there's a as you mentioned there's a lot of cat content in it you could then watch it and then you could have you could have jason momoa being like lewin lost the pussy cat i like the pussy cat should we get to our recommendations for some listeners now jordan Yes, because my throat is hitting it today and I'm coughing a lot.

58:10I got the allergies. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. I need the Sudafed. You need to take Sudafed, but then you'll fall asleep in the movie theater again, like you told us on a different episode. Do you have any movies to watch today that might knock you out? I do have work to do, but unfortunately I can't sleep. So if I take Sudafed, I've got problems. So I don't know what I'm going to do. You're going to have a fed of problems. Okay. Should I go first? Please. You want my recommendation first? I want to know. So here's this is a request from listener Damien. And this is what we were talking about in terms of, you know, we were facetiously saving a marriage here.

58:45Damien writes, streaming is a contentious issue in our household. I have pretty wide taste. We'll watch anything that looks good. We'll keep going until the end. Whereas my wife doesn't like horror, bloody violence, stupid comedies, silent films. And we'll walk out of the room if she doesn't like the film. She does enjoy romantic comedies, Jane Austen, Jack Reacher, Sherlock Holmes, and every Star Trek, a-o-ga, a-o-ga, red alert, Star Trek, but not Star Wars. So what can you recommend that she'll enjoy that won't bore the pants off me and I likely haven't seen already? Whew, this is a tough one.

59:23I know. I don't know. As we said, there's a lot riding on it here. What do we recommend? We recommend divorce. I don't know. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't. It's such a strange. I like Jane Austen, Sherlock Holmes, Star Trek. It's a very interesting combination. I got to meet this woman. She sounds radical. I like her. She sounds pretty cool. Yeah. Star Trek. I like Sherlock Holmes, Star Trek and Jack Reacher. Right. And then we'll walk out of the room if it's too bloody or too stupid. Well, I can respect. I can respect. I'm out. I can respect. I'm out of the room. I'm going to go in the other room and work on my sewing.

59:53I don't know what she's doing in the other room. Okay. So after I thought of a few things, nothing I was looking for, I could find streaming. So then I hit on one of my favorite lesser known Sherlock Holmes movies, which I hope Damien and his wife have not seen yet. And it is available on quite a few places to stream. And it comes from one of my favorite directors ever. Not Julian Schnabel, Billy Wilder, who is best known today for mostly the things he made in the 40s and 50s. Right. Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, some like it hot. but Billy Wilder was a director for almost 40 years and he made great movies right up through the last one or two not so great but he was making great movies all through the 60s and into the 70s including 1970s The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes which you can now currently as we are recording this stream on Prime Video MGM Plus the aforementioned Tubi and Hoopla uh billy wilder directed it and co-wrote it with his longtime partner ial diamond is he diamond is he is he my buddy it takes the form of a kind of hidden manuscript not dante's hidden manuscript but a hidden manuscript that was written by dr watson during his time with sherlock holmes but never published because supposedly the two cases it chronicles were you know so sensational right It could not be shared with the public at that time for a variety of reasons.

1:01:28And so the film is almost like an anthology. It has two cases that are kind of interconnected. One takes up roughly the first 30 minutes. The other is the rest of the movie. And in the first, Sherlock goes to meet this famous ballerina who has a very unusual request for him. And in the second, a woman who has been attacked is brought to 221B Baker Street. Sounds about right. like that to help her figure out who had attacked her. She doesn't remember. She kind of has amnesia. And she also has to find her missing husband. Wait, doesn't it involve the Loch Ness Monster or something? Well, you just kind of spoiled one of the things there.

1:02:07But yes, it does, as a matter of fact. Well, that's something that'll entice people to watch it, I think. They learn the Loch Ness Monster's involved. Sherlock is played by Robert Stevens. Watson is Colin Blakely. And one of the conceits of this movie that I enjoy is that it takes the idea that the But Sherlock Holmes was real. But the guy you know from the books and the other movies, that was like a fictional version of him. It was puffed up. Right. It was imagined by Watson. And the guy you're seeing here is the real, quote unquote, Sherlock Holmes. Kind of like how Lightyear is based on the toy of the book.

1:02:43It's exactly the same. Exactly. And Stevens and Blakely are a really nice team. And they work well within Billy Wilder's kind of framework here. and his kind of the tone he's playing with, which is to make something that is a lot of it is very witty and quippy. It's almost like at times like a Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau comedy. It's like they're going back and forth. Watson and Holmes are constantly kind of nudging each other in the ribs and they have a lot of banter back and forth. But there is also this kind of sadder and more melancholy side of it. And the thing that connects both of the stories, since you mentioned it is that they are stories about things that are unseen, things that lie below the surface, whether that is the Loch Ness monster or Sherlock Holmes' sexuality, his kind of repressed sexuality.

1:03:30I don't remember that. Yes, well, you need to go revisit it. I saw this a long time ago. Yes, it's not a famous movie. It is certainly not one of Billy Wilder's better known movies, but it is a winner. I really like this movie, and if your wife enjoys Sherlock Holmes' movies, this is one to watch, and it is widely available. It is the private life of Sherlock Holmes. That's my recommendation for Damien and his wife, and I hope it brings them together. And now another appliance triumph from our friends at Grand Appliance. With two dogs, every wash load came out covered in fur. I went into Grand Appliance looking for a fix, and they recommended the Maytag Top Load with Pet Pro Hair Removal System.

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1:06:42Sherlock, when I said drop this case, it was not merely a suggestion. It was an order. By whose authority? By the authority of Her Majesty's government. This movie was not a hit when it came out. And it's not a very hip movie. I mean, when it came out, it was like New Hollywood. And this was not New Hollywood. This was the essence of old Hollywood. So it was a little bit against the grain. And I think a lot of people kind of scoffed at it a little bit. But in retrospect, I've only seen it the one time. I did a when I really became enamored of Billy Wilder. I watched everything he was ever involved in that you can find some of his early German stuff is like the silent stuff.

1:07:18He wrote the screenplay for it doesn't exist. But it's good. It's a good one. And so, you know, you want the Sherlock Holmes route. And I was thinking of doing that and recommending some Poirot movies to this couple. That would be good. Yes. I had a Poirot phase. My wife and I like a year to go. We watched like every Poirot adaptation. There are a lot of good Poirot adaptations. There are some that are less good. But so I didn't go that way. And then in that list, there was she likes Jane Austen. And I'm thinking, well, there are a lot of Jane Austen adaptations. And then I was thinking, and here's how I'm going to get to the movie I'm ultimately going to recommend.

1:07:56I was like, there is that weird movie Jane Austen in Manhattan, which is a Merchant in Ivory film. I don't know this movie. One of their low, low budget New York movies that they made before they became really famous. And I went and I have seen it once and I went and it's not streaming anywhere, but it is on YouTube for free, you know, a pirated copy. So I was watching a little bit of it. I'm like, this movie is not what I'm going to recommend to somebody who walks out of the room. It's very stagey. So then I'm thinking, well, Merchant in Ivory in general is good for Jane Austen. I'm like, well, what about Howard's End?

1:08:29Howard's End is a masterpiece. I'm like, well, everybody knows Howard's End. And it was nominated for an Oscar and it's very famous. But this got me thinking of other movies like that. And again, I'm going big. I'm going for my favorites. I recommended Amadeus the other day. I recommended Inside Llewyn Davis today. I'm going to say if you like Jane Austen movies, you're probably going to like E.M. Foster adaptations too. And you might as well watch one of the best movies from one of the biggest directors of all times, A Passage to India. David Lean's final film. It's a big, fat epic. I have not seen this one.

1:09:08Oh. This is a wreck that I could use, too. So sell me on a passage in because I have thought about watching this movie a few times. It's a big, sweeping epic from David Lean, who was known for... He made three monster epics in a row. I forget the order. I think it was Dr. Vago that was last. um uh bridge on the river kwai yes lawrence of arabia yeah dr jivago didn't he also make the portmanteau film what's up dr jivago wasn't that one of his titles as well and then after dr jivago he made something called ryan's daughter which was not a hit and he was treated cruelly if you read his his uh if you read up about him it was specifically the new york film critics circle which you and i are both we are both part of they were so cruel to lean that he went into retirement for 14 years and he didn't make another movie for 14 years which is terrible don't listen to critics critics suck and then um what happened was he eventually got back out of retirement to make passage india which is like he wanted to make earlier in his career also he also did a brief encounter and and and um great expectations i mean david lean he's one of the biggest directors there ever was.

1:10:24A Passage in India has it all. It's shot on location. It's got Judy Davis. It's got Joan Plowright. And it has a marvelous story about misunderstandings, East versus West, not quite connecting. There's a trial aspect to it, but it's mostly about the look, you know, the riding on elephants in this movie. and it is something that on its surface may seem like a stuffy PBS production like Masterpiece Theater like oh E.M. Foster adaptation but it is actually very very funny at times Joan Plowright's character Mrs. Moore she likes things a certain way and it's just very you know nowadays they would have cast her is like um oh you know who's the one in Downton Abbey that just likes it you know she tells it like it is the old the old bat in that um I think there's a lot of yeah there's a might qualify or in the crown the old lady the old British lady tells it like it is that's that's kind of who she is but then it's also very sensual and Judy Davis let me tell you but the movie is about repressed feelings and it really is quite thoughtful and smart but also at times very funny but just most importantly it's like they don't make them like this anymore they they don't they shoot in the volume you know they don't take giant lenses and gorgeous i don't know if it was 70 millimeter but it certainly feels that way and go on location to the malabar caves and and make it happen and uh this is a movie that i've seen a few times and it's not like a typical hoffman movie because it's kind of a like i'm not the world's biggest jane like i yeah sure i like some jane austen movie like sense of sensibility it's fine sure um but i don't live and breathe i'm not like super into that world you typically like all the movies that damien's wife hates silly comedies the silent film that might be right so maybe this is the one so i think that i think give this one a spin it's a classic and where is it um streaming is something i forgot to look up uh all right while you're gonna look that up i just want to point out yeah you actually had you had the chance to recommend something Star Trek.

1:12:43I know. Star Trek was mentioned. I know, but I didn't do it. Instead of awkwardly shoehorning in a story about Ethan Phillips, you could have talked about Star Trek in an organic way. I'm a radical individual. What can I tell you? You know where you can watch this movie? Where? Please. Because I am, this is a movie that Siskel and Ebert loved. It's really good. And it was one that I, you know, like when I was writing Opposable Thumbs, I was trying to work my way through all the movies that they loved that I had never seen. And that was one that was on the list I just never got around to. It is long, I believe.

1:13:10It's an epic. It's like Dr. Zhivago. It's an epic, but it earns it. It earns it. Okay. I mean, the real way to see it is on 70 millimeter at the Museum of the Moving Image, blah, blah, blah. But if you can't make it to a rep house. So where is it streaming? Hulu. Hulu. It's on Hulu. And then it's on the bundle. I have Hulu. I could watch it. This is where it gets confusing. It's on the bundle of Hulu, HBO Max. Well, anything on Hulu, if you have Hulu and Disney Plus and they're connected, you can watch. You don't ever have to go to the Hulu website. You can just, which I never do. You just type in what you're looking for on Disney Plus and it will come up and it'll have a little Hulu logo on it.

1:13:48But that's if you pay extra, right? If you just have Disney Plus solo, you can't watch it. If you have Disney Plus and also Hulu. Oh, got it. And you subscribe to both and link the accounts. Got it. And same with HBO Max and same with, believe it or not, ESPN, weirdly enough. Now, if you don't have Hulu and you want to spend$3.99, you can do it. Sorry,$2.99 on Amazon Prime,$3.99 on Apple,$3.99 on Vudu, blah, blah, blah, all the others. Well, this is great. We've given two very different recommendations here for whatever Damien and his wife are looking for. They've got two ways to go here. Hopefully, one of them heals the divide and brings them together.

1:14:27Yeah, saves the marriage. Do it for the family. And if it does, I think we get all the credit. That's right. Rex Egg. Okay, recapping our Rex Egg, which I didn't yell one time. I didn't say the name of the segment one time. It's two episodes. You can do it again next episode. Where's the applause for my restraint? Jordan's always complaining. You don't know. Nobody knows what you're doing. You sound like an idiot. What are you talking? Why are you screaming like that? I didn't do it. Are you happy, Jordan? I am. Did I make you happy? You did. You did. Good. All right. So to recap our Rex Egg this week, I recommended At Eternity's Gate.

1:15:01Jordan did Inside Llewyn Davis. Those were our related recs for In the Hand of Dante. And then our personal recs for Damien, who is looking for something to watch with his wife, who likes Jane Austen and Jack Reacher in Sherlock Holmes and Star Trek, but not Star Wars. I recommended The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes. Jordan recommended, what was it again? Passage to India. Passage to India. Thank you. I forgot. David Lean's Passage to India. Blanked on the name. Thank you. No problem. And if you want, or just like me, you forget the name of one of these titles we've talked about, the best place to find what we recommend on this show is on Letterboxd.

1:15:37We have a running list that's maintained by our great producer, Sam Van Halgren, called Now Streaming on Bazooka, the fictional streaming service that Jordan made up on the spot in our very first episode when we were making fun of the names of these ridiculous services. and it is a list of every single title we recommend on the show and where to find it at least at the time of recording. These things do tend to change. That's true. But that's where to find all of our recommendations for the entire show starting from the beginning. Now streaming on Bazooka is the name of the list on Letterboxd.

1:16:10That's where you can find it. And if you would like a personalized recommendation, we can always give you more. We love doing these. Send us an email, feedback at filmspottingsvu.com. Tell us what kind of movie you're looking for or not looking for. Tell us what services you use. That's helpful sometimes. And we're going to keep doing them because we love helping people find things to watch. We have recently gotten some responses like, oh, thanks for recommending Jim Cotta. I love that movie. It was the greatest thing I've ever seen. We are starting to get some responses to the recommendations.

1:16:45And we have a good one already in the shooter. Somebody sent us something just the other day that we haven't gotten to yet. Next week. Yeah, it's going to be a good one. But maybe next week we'll do two. You know, we'll work it out somehow. We'll see. All right. It's time for a game. Sam, you're in charge. Take over so we can stop rambling and you can go to Film Spotting Fest. We're keeping you from the fest. Two Film Spotting Fest. The meter's running. I can't believe this was our first Jim Cotter reference in the run of SEU. Is that really true? It can't be true. That can't be true. I've been keeping track.

1:17:17It's true. I get to add it to the bazookalist. All right. Jordan's going to mention Ethan Phillips in every episode. I have to have something. So we're going to have to have the SVU game pack. There's so many games. We need to at some point go back and remind ourselves what all the games were. But Portman Toe to Toe was just such a high bar that will never be reached. But I did come up with something. The game is called What's in a Name. Okay. And so what it is is I'm going to give you some character names. When you know the actor, you buzz in. So I'm going to name character names, like a number of character names that an actor played.

1:18:00Okay. When you know who the actor is, you're going to buzz in. Okay. So all of you, we're not going to go with all actors of all time. That's not how we're going to do this. No. All of the actors that are a part of this game appear in the film you talked about earlier in the name of Dante. So it's, you know, we talked about this is a stacked cast. Yeah. Okay. So I, the catch is you can't just guess. You can't just throw out a name. You have to, when you buzz in, you have to both name the actor and the film that that character was in. Oh boy. Which, which will be fine. You'll get to it. If you say Llewyn Davis, we'll know what's inside Llewyn Davis.

1:18:37But other than that, we might be screwed. We might have some trouble. I think you'll be fine. I feel like they get increasingly more familiar. That's how I've tried to build it anyway. So I'm even going to try to make this a little bit more friendly for those listening. I'm going to remind everyone who is in In the Hand of Dante, because God knows no one's going to watch this. So to remind you, in alphabetical order, this is not the order they will appear in the game. Yeah. You've got Gerard Butler. You've got Gal Gadot. You've got Oscar Isaac, John Malkovich, Jason Momoa, Al Pacino, Martin Scorsese.

1:19:11So some or all of these names will appear in what's in India. Louis Cancel Me is in it too. He's very good in this. I don't know if that's how - Is he in it? Yeah, he plays Lefty. He's like a shifty mafioso. How does he pronounce his name? Cancel Me? Louis Cancel Me? Cancel Me? I don't know. Good actor. Good character actor. Okay, so again, I'm going to start naming characters that one of these actors has played. You're going to name more than one character? I've got up to four or five characters. Now, let's say we buzz in on character name number three. You then have to name all three movies?

1:19:51No, no, no. You just need to. The one you buzzed in on. When he says Llewyn Davis and you buzz on Llewyn Davis, you say inside Llewyn Davis. But it is going to get increasingly obvious, so you have an incentive to jump in early. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you know it. Let's give this a try. Hey, these are the first games of all these games. I just like to have the rules before we begin. I love this game. It's great. All right. Here we go. I should have given, like, anyway, we're going to start. We're going to start. Character name. Lou and David. Giselle, Giselle, Giselle Yashar. Oh, wow.

1:20:21Oh, I know who it is. Tal Gadot from the Fast and the Furious. Which one? Which one? Fast and Furious 4, which is also known as Furious or something. Is she in that one? She's in the fourth one, I think. Is that the first one she's in? She's not in the third one because that's Tokyo Drift. No, she's definitely not in the third one. Is she in the fourth one, Sam? You tell us. Well, the first one she appears in is called Fast and Furious, which I believe is the fourth. That is the fourth one. All right, he got it. Do I get a half a point? We have to give it. Is it a half a point? No, you got it.

1:20:58You got it. Close enough. I remember the baby suit you wore. Okay, maybe I should have started with Lynette Ridgway. That I have no idea. Good luck. I don't know. Who's that? It was going to get pretty easy after that. That was who she played in Kenneth Branagh's Death on the Nile. Oh. Lynette Ridgway. Yeah, yeah, that movie. Which I did see. Yeah, not a very good movie. But eventually we would have gotten to Evil Queen and Diana Prince. Okay, so it's what I'm saying. It gets pretty easy. But her name was Giselle. She wore like a teal bathing suit. She's very, everyone knows Giselle. Come on. All right.

1:21:28Actor number two. Hans Loss Love. Character names. Basie. B-A-S-I-E. Basie. Mitch Leary. Mitch? Who plays a Mitch? Mitch Leary. That sounds familiar. Cyrus Grissom. Oh, eh, eh, eh. Okay, there we go, Matt. I was counting on you to get this one. That's John Malkovich. Yes. And Cyrus is from Con Air. Cyrus the Virus. Yes. You got it. Also played Teddy KGB in... I don't know. Oh, okay. I wasn't sure. Is that Burn After Reading? This is Rounders. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. And then Osborne Cox. Yeah, okay. I had a feeling Burn After Reading was going to be in there. Who was Mitch... Oh, I'm sorry.

1:22:12Mitch Leary, his baddie in In the Line of Fire. His name is Mitch? His name was Mitch? He should have had a better name. He did not present as a Mitch in the line of fire. I think that his name was Mitch Motivated. Is that maybe an alias? Maybe that was like an alias? He's not a Mitch. Who's Basie? It's a good performance. Who's Basie? Basie, sorry. Basie, Empire of the Sun. Spielberg's Empire of the Sun. Oh, okay. All right. Again, the first ones are going to be kind of throwaways. Yeah, yeah, no, no. You did the right thing. No, I like that. We'd like to know who were these people. No, no, thanks for reminding me.

1:22:46Yes. Basie, Empire of the Sun. That's the fun part. Leary. What should have his name been? What should have his name been? Something a little more sinister. Osborne Cox would have been a better name in the line of fire. All right. Number three. Joseph. Sure. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. No, keep going. I need another hint. Don't let him get it on that. No, I think I know what it is actually, but I'm not sure. Did you buzz? I didn't hear a buzz. I just want to say for the record I think I know but go to the next one please Prince John yes Oscar Isaac Prince John was in Robin Hood Ridley Scott's Robin Hood Russell Crowe and here's the thing Joseph was he did play Joseph the stepfather of Christ oh was that the animated in the animated one the stepfather of Christ no isn't that what he is I mean I don't know what's the relationship to Jesus Mel Gibson's the stepfather of the Christ.

1:23:44But I can't remember the movie where he played Joseph. That's why you didn't buzz in. That's why I had to wait. But I do have a vision of him. What was it called? So Catherine Hardwick's The Nativity Story. Oh, The Nativity Story. Not the animated one. Never mind. Joseph, that's right. Yeah. Also, I have here Standard. Do you know who he played? Standard? Standard in Winding Refn's Drive was his character. His name was Standard? I didn't even remember. He was in Drive. Nathan? Nathan you say Nathan it's an AI voice saying Nathan Nathan Ex Machina oh right right right he's the lead but who can remember his name Nathan I feel like she says it a lot good movie this is a tricky game Poe Dameron in there just in case but nice job I'm glad I whipped Robin Hood out of my rear end I have not seen that version of Robin Hood, so that would be why.

1:24:43It's as boring as In the Hand of Dante. It is. It's not good. Okay. All right. We're moving on. Yeah. I feel like you may know this right out of the gate, so get those buzzers ready. Lowell Bergman. Al Pacino in The Insider. Yes. I knew it was Pacino, but I couldn't think of the movie. So where are we at? Is it 3-1 now? It's 3-1. Three to one. Is it newsworthy? Yes. Yes. Are we going to air it? Of course not. Of course not. He's using the same accent as an old man in In the Hand of Dante. He's good. You know what? It's a great movie. No, no. Of course. No, no. The insiders for that. I'm going to say, if you have Netflix and everybody does, just watch the scene with Al Pacino in In the Hand of Dante.

1:25:30It's like at the 10 minute mark. It's a good scene. It really is. He plays the old man. What were the other Al Pacino characters? Big Boy Capris? Okay. Caprice. Caprice. That one I would have gotten. Dick Tracy. Dick Tracy. John Milton. Right, right. Devil's Advocate. Devil's Advocate. And Lieutenant Colonel Frank Spade. In Scent of a Woman, of course, is Oscar winning. Oh, jeez, I wouldn't have remembered that. Well, I definitely would have gotten it by number two. So you were lucky that you could think, you knew the insider that well, Jordan. I know an insider now. Of course not. One. Of course not.

1:26:03Okay, here we are. Number five. character one creedy creedy this is a deep cut i didn't realize he was in this film creedy mike banning oh that's so familiar oh yes oh wait no no wait yes no no mike banning is gerard Butler's character's name in all the Has Fallen movies. Let's say Olympus Has Fallen. I want all of them. I want all the Fallens. Olympus Has Fallen. Angel Has Fallen? London Has Fallen? London fell. Everything kept falling. I don't know. Are there three or four? Has Angel Has Fallen the third one? Angel is the third. London is the second. London is the second. I don't think I saw Angel.

1:26:55Where is Angel? Is that Europe somewhere? I think that's like a code name for someone, one of the characters. Oh, okay. Oh, wait. I think I did see that. I think I did see that. Creedy, his character name in Reign of Fire. Oh, sure. With Christian Bale and Matthew McConaughey and dragons. Oh. Stoic, more dragons, How to Train Your Dragon. Yeah. I like Reign of Fire. I like Reign of Fire. I haven't seen it since it came out, but I like that one. Silly movie. And, of course, King Leonidas I went with just in case. That one, that one. It took me a long way. Jordan is winning again What is his character's name in Plane?

1:27:32He's Jack Plane You saw Plane right? He's Mitch Plane Plane is good I like Plane Oh Plane good It's Plane good Put it on the poster Jordan's going to win again I don't know what to say Your prize is you hosting the next game Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Six. No, no, get off the mic. Okay, we're shutting off the mic. Wait, hold on. Something's happening. Do you not hear that? I think my wife put music on, and I have - I can't hear it in my headphones. No, we can't hear it. Oh, Jesus. All right. Are you on the Bluetooth? Is that why? Yeah, no, what happened was, and feel free to cut this out, but it's amusing.

1:28:17While you were talking, the opening piano intro of Meatloaf's Bad Out of Hell just started. It was so dramatic because he said, like, Jordan's going to win. And then it went.

1:28:31This is why we do things in post. Right. We can add that effect. All right. We need more. We need more sounds with our games. Well, you know, Jim Steinman's always welcome in my ears. All right. All right. We're at six. We have two left. We've got two left. Okay. Character number one, appropriately, Dante. Dante. You won't know this. Ryan O 'Halloran was not in this motion picture. I couldn't remember his name. I was trying to make that joke. Dante. Another Dante. No, I don't know. I don't know. Garrett. Garrett. Think of the actors that I'm trying to think of who we haven't talked about here yet.

1:29:11We're going to give it away. I'm trying to think of what I want to give it away with. Lobo. Okay. All right. Jason Momoa in Supergirl. Yes, that's right. Arthur Curry, of course, is Arthur. Arthur Curry, sure. But who was Dante? Dante, sorry. Dante was his character. Oh, Dante's his bad guy in Fast X. Actually, no. Dante was - I went even deeper cut. Maybe, is he a Dante in Fast X? We should check. Oh, I thought that was him. He plays a character named Dante in Anna Lily Amirpour's The Bad Batch. Oh. Bad movie. All right, now I got to look up who was his character in Fast X. I thought for sure.

1:29:50it was a very dramatic name like that by the way I take Fast X sometimes when I have a stomach ache oh boy never on an empty stomach he was Dante you would have said I was wrong but I would have been right he was Dante Reyes I need an assistant I feel so validated I'm going to be in a great mood the rest of the day just for knowing the name of Jason Mimow's horrible character in the horrible Fast X. All right, we got one left. All right, last one. So we're at four, two. We can make it look like it was close here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I'm trying. I know you are. You're doing well. All right, last one.

1:30:34Goodly. Goodly. Sykes.

1:30:43Richie Red Rodriguez. Rodriguez. Richie Red Rodriguez. You'll laugh when you realize what character this movie is from. Hugo Durant. That name is really familiar, Hugo Durant. Wow. I just named the last two films came out this year, one of which was reviewed on FilmSpotting SVU. Oh, boy. Well, so that's, I'm going to, well, let me see, gave it away. But that's Martin Scorsese then because he was in Outcome. I guess his character's name is Hugo Durant. Oh, incorrect. Oh, shit. He was Richie in Outcome? Yes, yes. Hugo Durant was his character name. Was that in The Mandalorian? And Grogu. And Grogu.

1:31:30Oh, wow. Okay. I did not remember. I did not remember. Yeah, why would you? No, I remembered he was in that movie. Oh, yeah. I know. I could not have remembered his character name with a gun to my head. With a lightsaber to my head. Richie Red Rodriguez. he looks like a Richie Red Rodriguez when you think about it Goodly is his character name in Round Midnight oh I love that movie god damn I love that movie and what was the second one? Sykes from Shark Tale yeah that's right he was a voice in Shark Tale with De Niro officially 4-3 Jordan Take-A from Shark Tale you know what's funny Matt earlier you recommended at Eternity's Gate, Vincent Van Gogh.

1:32:15You know who also played Vincent Van Gogh in a movie? Who? Jason Momoa? Martin Scorsese in Akira Horasawa's dreams. That's right, in dreams. And he once again does nothing to get rid of his New York accent. And he goes, I must paint. The light is gorgeous. I gotta go paint. Like the pussycat, you must have painted. Wow, good game. I mean, that was tough. That was fun. That was a good one. We should do that one again. I like that one a lot. It was another great game, man. I like the pussycat. So let's now wrap it up by saying congratulations to Matt for losing with pride on this one because he didn't lose too poorly.

1:32:55But you know what's coming out right now this week on streaming? Because we are the streaming video unit. This week, theatrical releases available to rent or buy include The Devil Wears Prada 2, a big movie that's going to just do even better on home stream. because people can watch it and make screen caps and meme about it. Good sequel. It was good. The biggie of the year. The biggie. Yeah. Obsession. Honestly, I'd keep it in theaters a few more weeks. Hold it back. Make a few more checkles out of it. Probably still is in theaters, I'm guessing. But yeah, for sure it is. It's the success story of the year.

1:33:32I can't wait for the Oscars next spring or late winter when Billy Crystal's up there making jokes about Obsession. It's going to be great. yeah so those two are coming to streaming if you didn't get off your rear end to go see obsession in theaters you can do it at home and you'll see what all the fuss was about i i'm pro obsession i'm behind it all the way i think it's a great little movie i like both those movies they're both good well i'm i'm obscuring the fact that i didn't actually see prada 2 i missed it but uh i like the first you can rent it or buy it at home i'm going to uh well i'll probably wait till it's free on streaming but for those of you like me who are a schnorrer and I want to wait a little longer and don't want to spend extra.

1:34:11Prime Video's got another biggie. The Sheep Detectives. Everybody loves The Sheep Detectives. I have not seen this one. I need to catch up with this one. Everybody sees it with their kids. Everyone says it's great. Yeah. Chris Rosen took his daughter and she loved it. And everybody loves The Sheep Detectives. It's got Hugh Jackman and a bunch of sheep. And it's British and it's funny. Then a movie that I thought was going to be an awards contender. You know, we have friends of the pod that have another podcast called This Had Oscar Buzz. Are you familiar with that podcast? I have. I've listened to it.

1:34:44It's a good show. Chris File and Joe Reed, who I love, they have a great show all about movies that when they come out of the gate, they seem like they're going to be big winners and then they kind of disappear. People were talking, this could win Oscars next year. This Had Oscars. They're all the movies that did not win Oscars. This to me is a classic Thob film. This Had Oscar Buzz movie. The Coral. Ralph Fiennes as a World War I-era choir director, directed by Nicholas Heitner, who's a very respected British director. And when I saw that trailer, I said, whoa, this is going to be it. It's going to be this and Hamnet.

1:35:19And Hamnet did have Oscar buzz, and this sure as hell did not. So that's coming to Netflix. So that's cool. We can check that one out. Also coming to Hulu, Ready or Not 2, Here I Come. That guy Damien's wife would not like this because it's bloody and gross. and that's true very violent but very violent say is almost yeah it's fun i saw that one it's fun it's almost like a sadistic film and then on mgm plus everyone's favorite streaming service mila jovovich is thrust into the criminal underworld and hunted by cops and the military cops and the military she really hate when that happens she must have done something really bad oh boy in a movie called protector which i have never heard of so it's on mgm plus yeah now Matt you tell me what's coming direct to streaming well the big title that's coming straight to streaming next week is Enola Holmes 3 this is the third in the trilogy this might be another one for Damien and his wife I don't know if they like the Enola Holmes films but they are you know Sherlock Holmes adjacent they're charming I've seen the first two Millie Bobby Brown is Enola Holmes she's Sherlock Holmes is like kid sister and And who plays Sherlock?

1:36:34Wackiness ensues. Isn't it Henry Cavill? Henry Cavill. That's right. Henry Cavill. I saw the first one. I don't think I ever saw the second one. I have to be honest. The same thing is fine. More of the same. All right. That, I suppose, might be an option for for our next episode. The one that we're talking about doing, even though it would mean we're doing another Netflix movie after a couple in a row, is is voicemails for Isabel, which is kind of the current big title on streaming right now. It's been 10 million viewers in the first couple days of release. And when you search for the most popular things on Letterboxd, that is number one right now.

1:37:14So that is probably what we're going to do. It's a rom-com. It's a two-hour rom-com. Rom-com should be 90 minutes. But it's got Zoe Deutsch, who I like. Zoe Deutsch. She's lovely. She's a very talented actress. I saw her in a lot of good movies over the years. You know what she's good in? She's good in a real piece of crap called Vampire Academy, which is a terrible movie, but she's so good at it. So hats off to her. It's her and Nick Robinson. And it's like the movie that all the kids are watching on Netflix right now. And we are the kids if we are nothing else. And she killed it in Rick Linklater's Nouvelle Vague as Gene Seberg.

1:37:56She was great in that movie. So maybe we'll do voicemails for Isabel or maybe we'll do Enola Holmes 3. I guess we can let the fans decide. Feel free to email us at feedback at filmspottingsvu. And you'll be like, no, I love the Enola Holmes movies. I must know more. Or give Enola Holmes a rest. You let us know. That's right. And you can find us on social media. I'm on Instagram and Letterboxd at Super Pulse. I'm also on Blue Sky at Matt Singer. Jordan's there as Jordan Hoffman. And Jordan, we should briefly give a shout out. If people haven't gotten enough of your endless rambling, if they need more stories about Robert Picardo and Jonathan Frakes and Denise Crosby and other people like that, you have another podcast you just started.

1:38:49It's true. I am now hosting with my good friend Dave Gonzalez, a podcast called The Starlog Podcast. And Starlog, I'm sure many people listening know, was in the 70s, 80s and 90s, the number one science fiction and science fact magazine. and Starlog is coming back to print this late October. You will be able to buy a copy of Starlog at your local Barnes & Noble. But for now, it exists as a weekly newsletter that I write and a podcast that I schmooze. And I'll be honest, it's a different side of Hoffman. It's a little bit more... The Hoffman with a song in his heart? It's a Hoffman that's a little bit more, how shall I say?

1:39:37Let me put it this way. Film Spotting SVU is a great place to come and hang out and just talk about, let it ride. The Starlog podcast, my producer Dave is a little bit more, a bit of a taskmaster about me being prepared and sticking to the point. And, you know, so you get two sides. You get the, you know, it's a different side. But, you know, the Starlog podcast only has one episode that's out now. We've got several in the can, though, because we've interviewed a lot of cool people. In fact, next week, by the time this, when this airs, SVU airs tomorrow, you can hear me talk to David Koepp, big fat Hollywood producer, screenwriter, big famous guy.

1:40:19He's a producer, too, I think, sometimes. And a director. Yeah, he's a renaissance man. The director of Mordecai. I didn't bring up Mordecai. I wanted to, but I did bring up Premium Rush because I do like that movie. Another David Koepp special. Yeah. Well, that's great. So the official title, if people want to find it, is? The Starlog Podcast. And they can just get it wherever they get this podcast or any other podcast. Spotify, Apple, all the normal places. Or just go to Starlog.com and find it from there. Okay, great. So there you go. Check that out as well. Film Spotting SVU is produced by Sam Van Halgren.

1:40:52I'm Matt Singer. Yes, you are. And I'm Jordan Hoffman. And Sam is Sam. And everybody's happy. this was a great episode because we took lemons and made it into lemonade we watched a crappy movie you don't have to but you got all the funny stuff out of it like at the pussycat we made the lemons out of a lemonade or whatever the expression thank you for listening all right goodbye goodbye everyone

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