The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast | SMR 581: Hoppers

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4:55Hey, welcome to another episode of Spoiled Movie Reviews on the Blackout Tips Premium Podcast Network. I'm your host, Rod. Joined as always, well, most, okay, sometimes by my co-host. Karen, it just depends on what the movie is. I'm not gonna lie. A lot of times I'd be like, I am not interested. She'd rather watch Issa Kha for the 500th time than hang out with her husband. I'm so sorry. Yes, I did. You can find this podcast everywhere you get premium podcasts. That's right. Patreon, The Blackout Tips, TheBlackoutTips.com slash premium. On Spoiled Movie Reviews, we review movies for people who've seen the movie, don't ever plan on seeing the movie, or don't care about spoilers, because we do spoil the movie.

5:39And today's movie is Hoppers. The 2016 I believe Pixar film I think Pixar did this joint we'll get into the plot and the synopsis and all that stuff but let me tell you first we went to the theater to see this we did not just one of these things you sit on the couch and you stream it went to the theater now we did arrive a tad bit late but not like too late like maybe five minutes so we missed probably one trailer and my guess is what we walked in on the tail end of. But here are the movie trailers we saw this time. And there were only five. Probably because it was a kid's movie. Yeah. And technically, there was really only four.

6:25We'll get to the five. But the point being, I don't know if it's because the movie's been out for a week or two. I don't know if it's because of the time we went. We went at like a 4.15 matinee showing. I'm not really sure why AMC decided not 30 minutes of commercials. but I appreciate them for not wasting my time with 30 minutes of previews. Bullshit, right. So the first one was Super Mario Galaxy, the sequel to Super Mario World, I think the first one. A thousand percent. Who's not going to go see this? I mean, it's Mario. It's a billion dollar movie. The first one made a billion dollars because everybody saw it.

7:05And I know there were some people who were a little disappointed or down on it. I don't know what they was on. I enjoyed the shit out of that movie. I enjoyed the shit. And I'm not going to lie. Every time I see, because I think this trailer they cut was like the last trailer. Yeah, it is. And it's one of those things. But I'm not going to lie. Every time I see, every time they cut a different trailer, I see something new. Or I see a new character. Like I see something in the background. And for me, I get so excited. Like I am really excited about this movie. And it come out like the second or the third right around my birthday.

7:40so i'm ready let's go and it has um donald glover uh as one of the voices uh and isa ray is one of the voices so yeah uh this one man i i don't this the title of this movie is so weird that i'm 100 sure i got it right wrong um okay yeah i just looked it up it's the pout pout fish oh um it was a it looked like finding nemo and i thought maybe it was another finding nemo but it's not uh uh it's it's some sort of fish go on a journey to save the world type of story uh cartoon fish i ain't gonna lie whatever was in that trailer it ain't had a sizzle I'm not interested it did not look like it was going to be very boring yeah it didn't have it like yes whatever it is it didn't have it because sometimes you're watching things jump out the screen but you're like oh I got to go see that but I don't know if it was the way it was drawn or if it might have been too dark you know because certain things the brightness and shit particularly for cartoons and shit matters and I was like yeah I wonder like I think it could have been the voice performances or maybe just the clips they chose to promote it.

9:00It felt like the kind of movie that if you told me it was going straight to the Disney channel or something, I'd be like, oh, okay. But who knows? Anyway, I wasn't feeling this trailer. But maybe I'll see a better trailer later. The Devil Wears Prada 2. Unfortunately, I've never seen the first. I've never seen the first one. Sorry to let y 'all down the movie, people. I understand it's a classic. I never saw the first. People love that movie and i'm like i am not interested so if you're into the first one i imagine this was a huge deal for you for me i was like is this the devil wears prada i feel like i've seen these memes yes yes and it was um amazon prime and chuck e cheese no they're not movies they're just commercials they put in the middle of the damn trailers right which i think is pointless i could have sat at home and watched my tv i do not i'm in the theater wow you're showing me commercials from the house uh the mandalorian and grogu i don't know how to tell you if this is your first time listening to this show i hate to disappoint you i'm one million percent in for this i think it's going to be good i am the person they made it for everyone else is going who the hell want to see this i i stopped watching the disney plus show i didn't and seeing it on the big screen it does do something it's still real to me damn it and i'm gonna be there day one initially i was one of people going who asked for this but it was something because when we initially seen the trailers we seen them on your tv on tv but when i seen i think the first time yeah the first time i seen the trailers in the theater i was like oh okay because seeing on your tv i'm looking like i could have watched this at the house but seeing it in the theaters it just it changed my mind i was like okay yes yes yes i'm gonna go see this yeah i'm in um i i don't I don't know who I would be kidding.

10:54I, I, I don't expect this is going to necessarily bring in huge numbers at the box office. I don't either. Feels like it's about three, four years too late. I agree. Um, but, uh, I got to go see my boy Grogu. Um, AKA baby Yoda. I got to go see him on the big screen and hopefully we get to the conclusion. Find out of his last name is Jenkins or green or like, what is, what's Grogu's last name? Smith. and then lastly was toy story toy story five i believe i i there's so many of these at this point and i've seen every single one of them and i'm gonna go see this one too yeah and the thing is for me toy story is in a weird place mentally for me because i feel like it always delivers when i go to the theater i forget there's one i don't like and i forget which one it is but in general i like the plot was the one with the bear no the bear one was good that was when they was gonna burn to death in the garage or something that thing that one was good um i can't remember the one with king and michael key was good as well but there's one of these that i was like maybe it was two anyway they mostly hit mostly yes so i'm 100 gonna gonna see it but i always feel like toy story is such a weird one for because the haters of pixar and at this point who like there's so many haters of pixar right because they've just that some of the leadership has come out and pissed off the other side of the aisle with their like we're tired of all this woke d.i like okay anyway my point being um a lot of them are like i hate that disney bop pixar because pixar is making sequels and they shouldn't be making all these sequels and they don't need to make this many movies and a lot of these movies the quality is starting to come down so I don't like it, blah, blah.

12:44And I do hear them and I understand, but then they all, to a person, love every single one of these Toy Stories. And they will be in the theater for Toy Story 5 and they big ass will be crying. So I don't know what to tell you when I'm like, they wouldn't have made five Toy Stories if Disney didn't come in there and be like, hey, keep the party going. The money machine never stops. Ain't that the truth? So I don't know. Anyway, I'm going to be there. And I want to see what they do with the idea of screen time because in the trailer I think people are going to be like finally somebody to tell the kids to get off their screens and make parents be parents but it's coming from Walt Disney and Pixar who I guarantee your children spend a lot of time on the screen looking at so I got a feeling they going to find a compromise between them and the little screeny thing to be like technology not that bad so we'll see what happens time out or some shit like that right yeah exactly i think we know how this is and it's not with the kids realizing like i'm gonna just keep playing with woody right it's not it's not it's not slim y 'all pad to the ground yeah all right let's get into this movie this movie is hoppers uh 19 year old animal lover uses technology that places her consciousness into a robotic beaver to uncover mysteries within the animal world beyond her imagination uh it is directed by daniel chong and written by daniel chong jesse andrews and jordan harrison and it is uh it stars um piper kurda as mabel bobby moynihan as king george john ham is mary jerry generazzo um trying to see if Dave Franco is the insect king Aparna Nanchala is Nisha I knew that she was funny in here Isaiah Whitlock Jr.

14:43was bird king rest in peace if he would have made that bird say shit

14:51but yeah Meryl Streep is the insect king I did not I did not know that they bought out the big guns man that's that pixar disney money or something yes and some of them didn't even have a lot of lines yeah that's crazy um okay well let's get into what we liked then we'll talk about what we didn't like then we'll score from zero to five and then at the end we'll read your feedback because we owe you guys lots of feedback over the last few months because we haven't had as many of these reviews so uh karen get us started give me something you liked about this movie i actually like the fact that y 'all know i like colors and child the colors was there where it was very very bright and colorful and like the color of the animals the color of nature you know even it contrasts very good between light and dark because you know sometimes when things get dark uh it gets dark too dark sometimes but they balance it out where you can still see and function and things like that so it was very bright and very colorful i like the overall plot about the the environmental message that came with the plot about like humans and our destruction of the animal habitats the idea of going outside and being in nature bringing peace allowing people to bond allowing people to decompress and i don't know if that's just a thing that's reached me because in the last couple years I've been outside more than I like basically the most I've been since I was a child.

16:18Same. And I found that I do get that sense of peace and and belonging to something and feeling able to like breathe and meditate and decompress. a lot of times when I go on my walks outside, like at this point I can't imagine not walking outside. I prefer not to do the indoor walks. That used to be all I did. I drive to a gym to be like hey, let me go ahead and walk around in the gym. I remember before but I walk outside, Roger really get me like outside. I was like yeah, it's something about the wind moving through your past your body. You just cannot experience that in a stale building. I like the environmental message and the way they kind of illustrate it, especially like urban sprawl.

17:06We're going through that literally in North Carolina, Charlotte, North Carolina right now, with our 277 like toll lane expansion project. I was watching the news the other day, and they were like, we're going to lose some of these historical parks, many of them in black neighborhoods. Now the movie doesn't go into the racial part, but we're going to lose that. We're losing part of our culture, and yeah, animals are part of that too. So the allegory between like the animals and nature, all that stuff worked for me. I like the fact that, piggyback on what you were saying, it was heartfelt. Like, you actually understood Mabel, even though she was very complex, but at the same time, the things that she wanted to do was very righteous, and she was very strong, and even to a fault, I have this single purpose, and this is my purpose.

17:59Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think the relationship between her and her grandma was probably the strongest part of the movie. I actually don't feel like anything with her actual parents or anything like that beyond her mom. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't.

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20:50Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Chumba. Jump in at Chumbacasino.com. Let's Chumba. No purchase necessary. BTW Group. Void word prohibited by law. CTNC 21 Plus. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. Coming to school and dropping it off at grandmamas, it really wasn't like any other, that might be in the negatives, but the point being like that was, when you say heartfelt, that was where I felt the heart was. Yes. With the grandmom and stuff. um i like mabel's complexity as a protagonist i actually thought this was a bold choice and a good one and i understand that that's gonna have negative consequences on some folks but i like the idea that this little girl was not perfect and she was she was the kind of rambunctious we normally saddle on the male characters it's like yes oh he has a good heart but he's rough around the edges she had a good heart but she was rough around the edges and she did impulsive bad decisions that made the movie better but her life harder and i actually enjoyed that and going on this journey with her um at the end when she got the job with the professor i was like well that's because it's a movie but because you know in real life they'd be like a girl no like like you lucky we let you graduate if you don't get the hell out of here go mess somebody else life up but um but yeah i like mabel a lot because she made these decisions that you understood her heart was in the right way right place and it was out of empathy for the animals um and they don't they don't do a lot to show humanity's cruelness to the animals other than the speaker mechanism which is actually kind of like a i don't want to say harmless but it's a it's a less destructive environmental like this isn't let's go send a bunch of hunters to the woods to shoot out animals or something like we had with the wild robot which was amazing but in the wild robot man there was some moments where you was like oh my god these animals yes and for some of the children you were like oh I know this might have traumatized some of them right so yeah I like that she was very complex it was funny and it was funny because of Mabel because particularly uh when she when they would talk about her being like a child you know and how she would like take all the animals and then she was hard to catch and then you know her grandma talking to her she huffing and puffing like like she was just her the comedy beats with that character in particular like there were other funny things that happened but with her they were really good yeah yeah i definitely thought it was funny as well um um especially around that character like uh and then um the other what was the other thing oh and i enjoyed the music soundtrack too i actually thought the music was pretty good in this film um the way they like underscored some emotional moments the way they like i think they had a scissor song that was in there at one point like because they were saying I was like, that sounds like Sizzle.

23:59Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's that Disney money. Yes, sir. Just like Rihanna was into Smurfs. I was like, they basically got a Rihanna song and was like, we got to make a movie. Because Rihanna and Smurfs don't even really go together. No, they do not. They figured it out. But yeah, I actually enjoyed the music and the soundtrack. I love, I like movies that show youth being youth. And show youth being flawed. and show youth being over emotional and making errors and making mistakes and not listen to authority. And like I said, purposely making their lives harder, you know, because that's what youth do, you know.

24:35And a lot of times adults walk in going, that's dumb. Yeah, because you know better. But allow a youth to be a youth. And so I appreciate they was like, she's young. She's going to make errors. She's going to make mistakes. She's going to. yeah that's what i meant when i said she was a complicated character is like her decisions were so impulsive and often you know as a as a kid i could see being like oh i identified this character but here's the downside of what they're doing and of course they learned a lesson throughout the film um uh oh the voice cast that was my last thing the voice cast i mean i just john ham bobby Moynihan um Dave Franco uh a partner nonchalala um like I said Meryl Streep Ego and Weidem from um SNL Isaiah Whitlock I mean they they just had the money and when I tell you like some of these people they may have had five lines yes like I said some of them they didn't have a lot of lines at all yeah but they I mean they did a good job delivering that stuff and I cannot piggyback on your funny thing i wanted to add a couple things her the scenes with her and mayor jerry where they cut back and forth to them arguing areas so good um that was so funny um the uh uh bobby moynhan is king george the the the um the beaver yes he was very funny show the show and that and that and i love how they didn't run away from the idea that the animals eat each other but the fact that he just made it seem like it was all good he's like you gotta eat gotta eat it's like well he they're eating each other they're eating people pond rules but yeah so i enjoyed that because i think in it also had came up in the wild robot and i like that they don't run away from it or be like no the bear actually eats mushrooms like no the bear would eat peep fish yeah the bear is not gonna be eating herbs yeah other talking animals can get got uh it is what it is so yeah I enjoy uh the humor in those areas I actually really like the uh the doctors uh uh like the older lady and like the black lady um because they were and and the dude like they were actually really really funny and they carried the movie like she would be doing something all of a sudden they'll just pop out of nowhere you'll be like oh okay and so i like the fact that they use the animals as a way to get them to interact with her without them physically being there and so i actually like like them and you talked about uh mayor jerry mayor jerry uh actually stole the show too he was actually hilarious like his comedy beats was just as good as hers as far as like yeah john ham's a pretty funny guy man it's kind of crazy he did madman which i know you've never watched but madman is so sullen and dramatic and like when it is funny it's sardonic and in this case is like he was i mean but i've seen him on snl all these other places he's like legitimately got good comedic timing so yeah i enjoyed his performance as well yeah you got anything else uh oh yeah one more thing uh i actually thought the after credit scenes were worth staying for and i normally don't say that but uh the like these tags were funny yes because a lot of times the tags are just like uh remember this or here's here's the idea for the sequel uh the tags in this one uh the one with the face was funny and then the one with the old man finally getting his groceries was funny yes i 100 agree that they were hilarious and my uh last thing I enjoyed the flashbacks I enjoyed the way they implemented the flashbacks because sometimes when you see flashbacks either they're kind of pointless or don't make any sense or don't make no connections I love the flashbacks and in my brain and I'm kind of glad and it was kind of a twist even though it wasn't a twist when I see her grandma I don't know if I said it loud I said oh baby your grandma gonna die you know like my brain was like okay your grandma gonna die but I like the fact that they showed her grandma kind of passing off screen and then kind of showing time passing and there's nothing wrong with showing somebody pass but in this case they didn't and I think that them leaving that out actually helped shorten the length of the movie.

29:13Okay, let's get into negatives then. Give me your first negative if you have one. I do and when I was talking about shortening the length of the movie, it was a tidbit too long. It just needed to be an hour and a half and it would have been perfect. Agree. I have that as my first one too and the reason I would say that is because of the next thing I would say as well and this is my biggest kind of like negative on this movie it's a kids movie this has happened more and more with Pixar movies the further they get along and I think especially with some of the pushback and some of the flops they've had when they've tried to incorporate deeper messages into stuff um so now we're starting to get some of these pixar movies that are literally only just for kids like i don't think an adult can watch this movie and like this one did not make me cry i never teared up i never got close to it nope um it might make you cry on some like we all lose our grandmom shit but not on some like the what is happening with the characters how close she got to these animals right you know the like it just never really hits that and i think it's because this one's just kind of for kids and it's simple in a like hey treat animals in the environment good and i mean if that's what you take from that's fine there's nothing wrong with that but that this was not this did not feel like man uh like inside out one and to where i'm like damn coco where i'm getting that like this one pixar's in their bag up you know like this wasn't that i uh 100 agree and also i think before disney bought them that's why i would take them so long because they would actually sit down and probably map and plan and rewrite and rewrite until they got to the point where they could get this and i feel like when a company like pixar and i'm sure they always were don't i don't want to paint them with rose colored glasses but when they get it bought when you get bought by disney you are so looking at the ones and zeros the x's and o's the the the negatives and the positives when it comes to the balance sheet and i feel like things were when the lesson they got from putting out some heartfelt movies that did not garner support had to be notes from disney like okay so maybe just stop like yep like hey you guys coco like didn't like it didn't even matter what the reviews was it didn't make that frozen money so y 'all gonna make frozen too and there'll never be a coco too and maybe now i'm not like i said i don't want to pay on rose colored glasses because maybe if disney doesn't buy them and they put those out they then they can't even afford to make another because you know now it's like two flops and the studios out of business is being sold so i don't know that this would change the entire direction but like some of these ones where they tried to like add these layered you know like okay let's put a a lesbian couple in light year instead of going okay well we really didn't have a strong enough story for light year they're gonna go no the reason they make money is because we tried to do something with the lesbian couple so let's just stop layering real life into these stories uh turning red another like i thought was great but i know that a lot of people don't like it some people don't like it but i thought it was great it was hilarious but it was we could only watch it at home and whatever the return on that number was they probably like okay so enough with that it's all uh uh ilio last year like it's almost a miracle that this one came out with an Asian girl as a protagonist because you just had this feeling and you're seeing clips of these I'm reading clips from these interviews with the brass there and they're all kind of having these quotes of like yeah we got to get out of the therapy business we don't want people feeling like they got to go to therapy when they watch our movies and I'm like oh is this from Disney or is this from y 'all because I don't know like the lessons y 'all are learning to me are the opposite of the ones I'm taking and I think one of these lessons is let's stop layering these film so deep so i think that's why this movie turned out to be a very simple take your kid to see it the kid will get more out of it than you will and you'll basically get nothing out of it right that's how this felt for me yeah and like you say it depends on like you said the lessons they learned and particularly with them pumping shit out so quickly they don't have the time to to like layer it like they used to do right and so it's going to be one of those times where that's why you hear a lot of adults complaining because i took my child to see this movie this is a fucking pointless ass movie that I go take them to see all the time.

33:52That's why you see a lot of parents kind of turning against Pixar because Pixar was one of those things where it was an event for the child but it also was an event for the parent. But once you kind of strip away the things that kind of get the parents involved, they go okay, now this is some mind-numbing shit that I got to take my child to. I take that. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I'm not saying you're wrong. I was thinking it's more so what I think my guess is that it's actually more like the people with kids I think have less of an issue with this because they like the idea of cool nothing deep in this movie my kids gonna like it either way right and I don't have you know like I can just veg out for an hour and a half and my kid enjoyed the movie and I'm just happy like I think about people like uh Damon from IGN's uh Game Scoop and when he talks about taking his kids to movies a lot of times he don't sound like Like, he don't even sound like it matters if he didn't like it.

34:48He's like, oh, my kid liked it. And that's kind of matters more. And so what I'm saying is I think it's people like us. I'm not going for a kid. I'm going for me. Right. And there was a time when I see a Pixar movie, and I'm like, yeah, it doesn't matter if it's for all ages. I know there's going to have some deep stuff in there for people my age. Now I don't feel like that anymore. You could go to a Pixar movie, and it's a crapshoot. Are you going to get inside out? And you go, wow, man, made me cry. Or are you going to get Elio where you like felt like they didn't really want to go too deep?

35:21Right. And it's also one of them things. Not trying to find it for me. Roger asked me and I was like, because I seen I was like, I don't even know if I want to go see. It's almost a turn off. Not trying to be funny when you see you go. You know, because it's going to be like that's like I'll just watch it on streaming. Like, what's the point in taking the extra effort to go if it's going to be something that I don't say not catered towards me because it's all for children. but if you're not going to hit that second that second level i'll watch you like i watch a scooby doo movie like why why why would i why am i taking extra effort yeah but once again it's a negative if you're an adult like me and karen but i think it's a positive if you got kids or you are a kid it's like cool simple movie treat animals better you know let's go right okay for me uh we kind of talked about this before her parents we got zero of her parents and that was a problem we basically got her mama dropping off us and dropping off our mama and you basically got a phone call when they was about to move and that's it you don't you don't get to see a dad you don't get to and you basically seen the mom for a split second when she was driving off and like the grandma was supposed to be that connection cool but you don't go into any depths or any details about her childhood.

36:36It was a very odd decision. Yes, it was. You know what? The extra 15 minutes, I'd rather you spent time with a family. You know what I'm saying? It felt like they were trying to say the grandmama was her connection and her family. And with the grandma dying off screen and the rest of the movie her being an adult and you only see the grandma in a couple of flashbacks. And I almost felt like they said we got to have the obligatory Pixar death. but because they didn't really do a good job laying that out, it just didn't. Yeah, it was just kind of like, okay. And maybe that was a choice that they said, we don't want people crying in this one.

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41:49I 100 % agree and it's also I can say one of those things where they made a choice since we're not going to get heartfelt I guarantee you they wrote a version you know they have all types of versions they wrote a version filling in all these holes it was like scrap this, scrap this, take this out take this out and that time funny in my mind you probably took out a lot of the heart or a lot of the things that would have connected people to the movie. And you was like, that'd make it short. And it really wasn't even that short. You could have could have had more, actually. But you was like, okay, I have an hour and, you know, 40, 45 minutes.