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17:46Adam Kempenaar:And when I thought of Kamala Khan and when I saw some of the pictures, even though it couldn't be more different because they're very colorful and A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night is in black and white. But the first character, the first actress I envisioned is Sheila Vand, who is that girl who walks home alone at night. And so that sense of being an outsider, being different, being alienated from those around you and yet trying to assimilate, that's very much at the core as well of The Bad Batch, even though it's a very different movie than A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night. She just seems like the right director for that character and material.

18:18Josh Larsen:All right, we're at my number four. I guess I would say, Adam, I dabbled in comics more than anything else when I was younger. I'd pick them up here and there. Probably the age I was most into them was middle school. And that's also when I embarked on a get-rich-quick comic scheme that didn't really pan out. In 1986, Marvel tried to launch a completely original series of superheroes under this new universe banner. I think there were about eight made-from-scratch characters or teams. I, middle school me, saw an investment opportunity, Adam. So I shelled out the 75 cents each. This was in 86 for the first five issues of each series.

19:00Josh Larsen:Guess how much they're worth now. I checked while putting together this list. 85 cents? A dollar, 70. each, Adam. Thank you very much. According to my math, I doubled my money, more than doubled my money. Some of these were really cheesy. I found these in a drawer over the weekend. Kickers Inc. was a team of former football players. Not too cool, but I do remember rejected. Good move. There was one that I liked for more than investment purposes called Night Mask, a character created by Archie Goodwin. This is a teen with the ability to enter other people's dreams. Now, Nightmask had this goth look.

19:43Josh Larsen:There was a black high-colored cape that he wears, and it ends in these tendrils. And with its dreamscapes, the comic gives ample opportunity for really surrealistic flourishes. So who do I want to see make the Nightmask movie? Well, I think Tim Burton still has a great movie in him. And before you scoff, here's the kicker. I want his night mask to be stop motion. There are definitely some Jack Skellington touches to night masks look. I'd even, here's how much I'm committed to this, Adam. I will put my earnings from my New Universe collection. I'll sell them all and put that towards seed money for the night mask movie.

20:21Adam Kempenaar:Get it off the ground. I don't know anything about night mask, but Tim Burton's night mask does sound right, Josh. So good pick. Okay. Let's see how you take to my number four. obviously inspired by a recent discussion here on the show. David Cronenberg's Angel starring Timothee Chalamet. You're going to have to fill me in on Angel. So Angel, you have seen on screen before because I am guessing, though you probably skipped X-Men Apocalypse, as I did, the one starring Oscar Isaac, the recent one. Yes, have not seen that. You did see the Brett Ratner-directed X-Men The Last Stand, or am I wrong?

21:00Adam Kempenaar:I wish I had that information readily available. Okay. Ben Foster, the great Ben Foster, plays the very blonde angel in X-Men The Last Stand. And his namesake, his real name is Kenneth Worthington III. I'm just going off of Marvel's Wikia here. He is the mutant son of the wealthy Warren K. Worthington Jr. And his wife, Catherine, neither of whom were aware that their son had developed. This is where Cronenberg comes in, Josh. a pair of large feathered wings extending from his back, enabling him to fly. If you go back and watch... I can imagine that scene now. Can't you? The body horror of that.

21:37Adam Kempenaar:If you go back and watch that scene from X-Men The Last Stand, that's basically what we get. We get a flashback to the younger Ben Foster character, the younger Warren Worthington, who is actually trying to cut off the wings from his back. He's so ashamed of them that he's trying to cut them from his body in a scene And it isn't really that disturbing. It's not what David Cronenberg would do with it. But you could imagine what he might do with it. And then later we see when he finally kind of revels in the full force of his wings when he does come out to his family. And that's one of those metaphors or one of those analogies that go with a lot of X-Men characters.

22:14Adam Kempenaar:And it certainly ties to Warren Worthington as well. Now, depending on the movie and its scope, he could also turn into Archangel, which he does. And apparently this happens in X-Men Apocalypse. Apocalypse turns him into this dark, foreboding character who merges with technology. And those wings go from being feathers to these, as they're described in front of me, techno organic wings. He can fly higher and faster and they're razor sharp with feathers that are thrown as blades with a neurotoxin. We're really in Videodrome territory. We are, aren't we? So that's the thing. It's just something about that combination of body horror and potentially body and technology converging, the consequences of that convergence that seems so appropriate for Cronenberg.

23:02Adam Kempenaar:And then Chalamet. I'm going with Chalamet because he's probably the actor I'm most curious to see whatever he does next at this point. I feel like he can do just about anything. And even though his hair is obviously dark, depending on what angel you go with, if you Google him, usually you'll find someone who has either very long flowing blonde locks or well coiffed sort of straight up kind of hair, but longish. And Chalamet, I think if you dyed that hair blonde, there's just something about that that screams angel to me. And I think I'm also just naturally playing off of the character we see in Call Me By Your Name, too, who is a rich kid.

23:41Adam Kempenaar:He's a little bit entitled, but there's also a fundamental goodness to him. And he's someone who's determined to discover who he really is. So playing off of that Elio character in Call Me By Your Name, dye that hair blonde, give him some wings, and he's Angel.

23:56Josh Larsen:That's good. but you should know I am also considering a proposal via Twitter from at Hugh underscore Goldolphin, David Cronenberg's Hulk. So pretty good matchup too. That makes sense. But maybe he can do both. We'll see. Maybe. All right. My number three is Anna Rose Homer's Doctor Strange. Now the winner of the 2016 Film Spotting Golden Brick Award has yet to announce her next feature project. So I say give her the next installment in the Doctor Strange series. We recognized Homer for The Fitz, a spectral indie in which the members of a competitive girls dance team begin to suffer these unexplained seizures.

24:32Josh Larsen:And The Fitz is very much rooted in reality. But here and there, Homer offers these subtle cinematic flourishes that flirt with the supernatural. And then there's that ending, which launches us unexpectedly and really without much explanation entirely into the realm of the metaphysical. I don't want to spoil it because some listeners might actually have not seen the fits yet and you should really see the fits. Well, Doctor Strange takes place almost entirely in the metaphysical. And while I like the first film well enough, I do think that like so many of the Marvel movies, it was in danger of being swallowed up by the CGI in order to depict this metaphysical world.

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28:13Adam Kempenaar:Appliance experts since 1930. Great tie-in to my number three, Josh, because initially, Anna Rose Homer was the director I had attached to my project. Oh, really? Okay. So she's going to be very busy at Film Spotting Studios. But I did back her out. I went with another director, even though Homer could do a wonderful job. I think this is going to be your favorite of all of my pitches. All right. Sarah Pauly's Rogue starring Anya Taylor-Joy. Ooh. The actress, of course, from Split recently and The Witch, which is where I think we both discovered her. And I'll get to why I'm going with Pauly in a moment, but you probably remember Rogue.

28:55Adam Kempenaar:Anna Paquin played her in the Bryan Singer X-Men movies. And just based off appearance, there is something otherworldly, immediately otherworldly about Anya Taylor-Joy. There is just a haunted aspect to her that I think is so fitting with the Rogue character. But I also think she's able to bring the sense of playfulness she might need as well, being a teen girl or a 20-something girl. She does have this dark past based on what I've read about Rogue's past. She was raised by her Aunt Carrie after some tragedy involving her parents, and she ran away, and she's taken in by Mystique, who we know from those movies is connected to Magneto.

29:34Adam Kempenaar:And her power, basically, her mutant power is that whenever she touches someone, she takes their powers from them. And it all started with, and this is depicted in those X-Men movies, a kiss. She has her first teenage kiss and her mind fills with all his memories and he falls into a permanent coma. And so then she's always on the run. She's always haunted by that experience. She doesn't know how she can really engage with society with that type of power that she could inflict on other people. So I mentioned Taylor Joy. I looked up her origin. She's Argentine British and born in Miami. There's just something unconventional about her appearance that I think is fitting for the rogue character.

30:21Adam Kempenaar:And apparently someone beat me to it because I did discover that she's already been cast in a Fox spinoff, The New Mutants. Oh, you're kidding me. She plays Magic, a character named Magic, a girl who has learned sorcery and uses teleportation discs to travel. I didn't discover that until I'd already cast her in my movie, though. I know Marvel's against that. You can't play different superheroes, but she's going to be in my version of Rogue, directed by Sarah Pauly. And here's why I went with Pauly. You think about Take This Waltz, away from her stories we tell. They ask questions about origins, where you come from, even to be very literal about it.

30:58Adam Kempenaar:Who are my parents? Who do I latch on to as my parents? A movie like Away From Her, you have characters who are no longer in control of themselves, whether it's your mind or your body. You're not in control of it. And then even Take This Waltz, the movie starring Michelle Williams and Seth Rogen, it's all about that physical disconnect and the frustration that comes from a lack of intimacy, which obviously afflicts this rogue character.

31:22Josh Larsen:I have a feeling that of all the directors we're talking about, Sarah Polly would be the one to say absolutely not about taking out a comic book movie. But I, for one, would be very intrigued to see her try to do it.

31:35Adam Kempenaar:Absolutely. Let's get to some listener feedback here. We did get some great voicemails with their picks for superhero director combos they'd like to see.

31:43Josh Larsen:Hey, Adam and Josh, this is Ben Hollis from North Hollywood, California, calling in for my choice for who should direct a superhero film who has not yet. I guess technically you could consider Point Break a superhero film. But yes, I'm picking Catherine Bigelow, who's never directed a true superhero film, let's be honest. I think she's a fabulous action director. But even though I liked her first two collaborations with Mark Boll, really did not like Detroit, and I kind of wish she'd move on. And I feel like a superhero movie might be an interesting way to do so, particularly if you pick something interesting.

32:16I would pick Green Arrow. He has a very popular show on CW, which is really unfortunate because it's pretty much nothing to do with Green Arrow.

32:24Josh Larsen:It's more about hot guys and abs, which has its place. But the actual Green Arrow is sort of a rebel, a 70s creation who's a guy who fights against corruption and financial abuse. And in sort of a post-2008, post-Big Short world, I feel like we could go have some interesting discussions about a guy maybe taking down corrupt bankers and the like. and what does that mean? And I think she could sort of go back to her old, exciting, you know, point break era, strange days style filmmaking, but still have some of that political relevance that she loves so much in her modern films and create something really interesting.

33:04Josh Larsen:I feel like we need a superhero film that actually, I don't know, pisses people off and causes a little bit of controversy and things like that. I think that might be interesting. So Catherine Bigelow, please come back and make cool action movies. I miss you doing so. All right. Talk to you all later. Bye. I'd pay to see Catherine Bigelow's controversial Green Arrow, wouldn't you? You know what I thought might be along those lines controversial for her as well to take on? A Captain America movie. I mean, think about the ways, as Ben was mentioning, she has explored and interrogated the notion of patriotism.

33:36Josh Larsen:Good word, yeah. To let her loose on that might be fun as well.

33:39Adam Kempenaar:We are at your number two, Josh.

33:41Josh Larsen:Okay. For number two, this follows nicely your number three, which was a pick of an X-Men character who hasn't really gotten their full due in some ways. Mine is going to be Storm. And the director for that character, I think, should be Dee Rees. Now, Storm has been played by Halle Berry and Alexandra Shipp so far. I don't think... You're going Mary J. Blige. Might be a little on the older end. Okay. Do I have someone cast for this? Let me think about that. I'll see if I can give you someone here. You can come back to it. But for the Storm movie and Dee Rees, I think there are a couple of reasons.

34:19Josh Larsen:This is a nice pairing. Rees has obviously, as an African-American woman, been a boundary-breaking filmmaker with 2011's Pariah and last year's Mudbound. And Storm, boundary-breaking character, from what I could tell, the first black female superhero. Now, of course, the character was created by white guys, okay? Len Wein and Dave Cockrum in 1975. and she's largely been depicted by white men both on the page and on the screen. So obviously there are limitations to that. And I think that's why Reeves could bring such a different and exciting perspective to the character. Beyond the identity politics, though, Reeves showed with Mudbound in particular that she has an eye for landscape and weather.

35:00Josh Larsen:Think about that rainstorm that Mudbound opens with. And Storm's power, of course, is the ability to control just those things. I'd suggest that Riz also re-teamed with Rachel Morrison, who is up for an Oscar for her work on Mudbound. Okay, so who should play Storm? How about Tiana Paris, who was in Dear White People and who I loved in Spike Lee's Chirac, sort of the lead role there. Really good.

35:30Adam Kempenaar:She might make for a strong Storm. I like it. And we're going to go from your pick. What did you say? The first black female superhero? I think so. Okay, well, I've got the first black superhero, at least in the DC universe, at my number two. How about, Josh, Jordan Peele's Green Lantern starring Daniel Kaluuya? Man, I can see this one happening. Me too. And I don't mean that they're playing Hal Jordan, the character that Ryan Reynolds played in the Green Lantern movie, but he would play Jon Stewart, who debuted in volume two, number 87, back in December 1971. Basically, the artist Neil Adams came up with the notion of having a substitute Green Lantern.

36:16Adam Kempenaar:And as it says here from, I think, Wikipedia or maybe a DC site, the decision to make the character Black resulted from a conversation between Adams and editor Julia Schwartz, in which Adams recounts saying that given the racial makeup of the world's population, we ought to have a Black Green Lantern. Not because we're liberals, but because it just makes sense. And the character was DC's first black superhero. So he's been a recurring character in the Green Lantern universe ever since 1971, sometimes stepping in for Hal Jordan. At one point, he stepped down as Green Lantern. And I think what it is, Josh, is the idea for me of seeing a comedic take on the superhero genre.

36:53Adam Kempenaar:I know we've seen it to an extent with some of the humor in Guardians of the Galaxy, but really the vision and the comedic sense of a director like Jordan Peele. And maybe that's partly because I have seen the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern, which I think a lot of us would agree was unintentionally funny. Are you going to force me to admit that I liked that movie? Oh, God. Well, this was worth it just so you're on the record saying you liked that movie. Bro, Ryan Reynolds, Green Lantern. It's the truth. That movie is unintentionally comic. I'd like to see an intentionally comic take on Jon Stewart and Green Lantern.

37:28Adam Kempenaar:And I think, obviously, the racial overtones of everything we just described, Jordan Peele would be the best person to navigate that serious but also potentially hilarious terrain. And it turns out I'm not that far off in doing some research, Josh. apparently Warner Brothers at least I found this on a website somewhere Warner Brothers back in 2004 hired Robert Smigel to make a Green Lantern comedy starring Jack Black. Smigel said in an interview that the premise that the wrong guy gets the ring and can do all kinds of goofy visual jokes because the visuals are so potentially ridiculous. What appealed to me about it on a comedic level was that in order to be a superhero this requires no physical skill or talent.

38:07Adam Kempenaar:All it requires is owning this ring automatically. That's a comedic premise. He's right. He articulated way better than I could. The fact that Green Lantern has just always struck me as a little bit silly. And so bringing someone like Jordan Peele to that material makes sense. Now, I also learned that there is a movie that is scheduled to come out part of this whole universe of films, 2020 Green Lantern Corps. Oh, man. At this point, there's no director attached. Maybe they'll listen. There's no director attached. but it is described as, according to one website, lethal weapon in space. So, I'm just saying, that sounds kind of funny to me.

38:49Adam Kempenaar:You take Jordan Peele, you take a guy like Kaluuya, who they were so perfectly matched in Get Out, and that's a movie that not only brings lots of different elements to it, but the comedic merged with horror, merged with some action, I feel like they are the right pairing for a Green Lantern film.

39:07Josh Larsen:I'm going to move that one to the front of the production pipeline. So we'll see if we can beat that 2020 release to theaters. Love it. My number one. I think at least from the responses I saw on social media, Greta Gerwig was probably the filmmaker who came up the most. All sorts of good recommendations from listeners. Maybe not a surprise. She's riding so high on Lady Bird right now. She's just at the front of people's minds. I knew I had my Gerwig match early on. This was probably the first one I thought of and the one I really would be the most excited to see.

39:36Adam Kempenaar:Okay.

39:37Josh Larsen:Greta Gerwig's Squirrel Girl. I take it you're unfamiliar with Squirrel Girl. I am unfamiliar, but already I'm sold. All right. I can't blame you. I hadn't heard of Squirrel Girl either until I think it was Toronto International Film Festival in 2015. Someone I was with wanted to check out a comic shop. So I went in looking for souvenirs for my kids and came across this series. So I picked up an issue for my daughter. I'm just going to share the Wikipedia description. Squirrel Girl is a human superhero with the proportional strength and speed of a squirrel, as well as the ability to speak with squirrels like her sidekick, Tippy Toe.

40:14Josh Larsen:She can also command an army of squirrels, which she typically uses to overwhelm her foes. Now, believe it or not, comics legend Steve Ditko, I found out, was actually involved with the character when she first appeared in 1991. The one I picked up is a more recent one. It's from her first solo series, The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, written by Ryan North and drawn by Erica Henderson. Here in this run, Squirrel Girl leaves the Avengers mansion to pursue college life, moving into a dorm and registering to study computer science. So this is pretty much picking up where Lady Bird left off, only, you know, with really weird superpowers.

40:52Josh Larsen:The issues I've read are really clever. There's a nice appreciation, but also a tweaking of the Avengers mythology. And underneath it is a true affection for this main character who I should probably note goes by the real name of Doreen Green. And basically I could see Doreen Green and Lady Bird hanging out together on campus, which makes me think I'd really like to see Greta Gerwig's Squirrel Girl. Who should be Doreen? How about, you know, at first, of course, you think, well, Saoirse Ronan, but that wouldn't quite be right. How about Lady Bird's best friend in Lady Bird? Love it. Beanie Feldstein.

41:27Josh Larsen:Beanie Feldstein. Squirrel Girl. Okay.

41:28Adam Kempenaar:Okay. I'm sold. That is such an inspired choice. I love Beanie Feldstein. Okay. I don't know if I can top that with my number one. This is the one though, Josh, where I'm just going to give you the superhero first because we have a special guest who's going to play along with our shenanigans here. The character is the Vision. And you and other listeners may recall that when we reviewed Captain America, Age of Ultron, maybe it was Civil War where I talked about the Vision, but he's born in Age of Ultron. I mentioned during one of those reviews that he was a fascinating character, and I kind of felt like he got sidelined a little bit.

42:07Adam Kempenaar:He's a very powerful character, and they didn't really deal with him maybe as well as I would have liked, especially in some of those battle scenes. People wrote in. They said, if you like The Vision or you want to know more about The Vision, you have to read the new version of The Vision written by Tom King. I did that and thought it was brilliant. It also turns out Tom King, longtime film spotting listener, he's left us a voicemail or two over the years. And so I thought, if I'm going to project onto the vision, the director that I think is best for the material, why not go right to the guy who wrote the vision?

42:38Adam Kempenaar:And let's have him explain who would bring the proper vision to his material. Hello, Film Spotting listeners. This is Tom King. I'm the writer of Batman for DC Comics and The Vision for Marvel Comics, and I've been kindly asked to, in my opinion, who could be the director of the Vision movie. My first instinct as a loyal Film Spotting listener is to both go artsy and to cheat, maybe resurrect Igmar Bergman from the grave to do a Vision with a lot of robots staring at mirrors. but then I thought no what do I really want to get out of a vision movie and the answer was obvious and it's money lots of money so then my mind went to how can I accomplish that noble goal and I was thinking well I mean James Cameron made the biggest money-making movie of all time with Avatar, and I can't really speak too much of the writing of Vision, but I feel it's a better basis than Avatar for a movie, so and you know, Terminator Aliens is a pretty good movie, so yeah, if I had to pick one person to make a Vision movie, I'm going James Cameron, and I don't have, like, Adam-level kids, but I have enough kids to put through college that I think that would work.

44:00Adam Kempenaar:Thank you, FilmSpotting, and thank you, Adam and josh appreciate the show and i'll keep listening well who does have adam level kids right josh that's just craziness okay thank you so much tom king james cameron a great choice and here's why let me give you a little bit of background about the vision and the storyline that tom king explores in the recent marvel series this is the little synopsis the vision wants to be human and what's more human than family so he heads back to the beginning to the laboratory where ultron created him and molded him into a weapon, the place where he first rebelled against his given destiny and imagined that he could be more, that he could be a man.

44:39Adam Kempenaar:There he builds them, a wife, Virginia, two teenage twins, Viv and Vin. They look like him, they have his powers, they share his grandest ambition, or is that obsession, the unrelenting need to be ordinary? Behold the visions. So based on that, you can see why Cameron, besides just the money factor and the fact that he'd probably bring in some box office why the guy who did make the movies tom mentioned including the terminator movies and these films about these alternate beings would be a good fit for the vision but here's my dream scenario for the vision and i love love love paul bettany as the vision he's an actor i adore so i really don't want to recast him but if i had to recast him I want to see the Cone Brothers, The Vision.

45:24Adam Kempenaar:Oh, man. Starring Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, my goodness. Part of it is just wanting to see Leo work with the Cone Brothers. Yeah, could he do that? I think he could. He has worked with everybody, all the big directors. The Cone Brothers are maybe the biggest name on the list that he still hasn't collaborated with. And he doesn't have maybe the mannered style of acting that Paul Bettany brings, the kind of technique. We don't think of him that way as he plays this synthetic character, this robot character. But I think DiCaprio could do it. And I also think that he could sort of bring to it that bubbling underneath angst where he's always trying to restrain himself and play that perfectly composed character, that machine that doesn't overreact to scenarios.

46:14Adam Kempenaar:And yet with DiCaprio, it would just be there. It couldn't help but be there under the surface.

46:18Josh Larsen:Yeah, that would definitely make it more of a satire, I think, if the Coens got their hands on it. And having read this series, that's definitely there. You know, there are. Yeah, there are satirical elements. so I see how that could go yes it's also a very like loneliness comes to mind yes that's a big

46:37Adam Kempenaar:part of it Josh and I think this series the vision is about this family in the suburbs and so even though we didn't even see it we know they wrote Suburbicon but it's not that because I didn't see it what I'm really thinking of more and there are other examples certainly from their filmography that fit with the vision but a serious man a movie that does take place in the suburbs where Everything is supposed to be perfect, and yet within each house, certainly the house that we look into, the Gopnik house, we see all those secrets and all the things that are under the surface. And also we see a character where his reality and dogma, the ideals, the things he subscribes to, or let's say his programming, when those are challenged and destroyed, how do you react in that scenario?

47:21Adam Kempenaar:And at its core, the vision is about what makes us human, what makes a man. These big existential questions that I have always ascribed to the Coen brothers' work, even some of their most specific genre work, those questions are being asked throughout. questions about what our destiny is, the notion of fate, how in control we are of our actions. I don't think anybody explores that material better than the cones. And they also, Josh, explore it with humor. You brought in the notion of satire. I think that's there in the vision amidst all that darkness and bloodshed. And those elements are in the vision.

47:57Adam Kempenaar:There's a comic absurdity to just existence that they always draw out. So that's my dream project.

48:04Josh Larsen:Yeah, when I was thinking about the vision, this is not going to get Tom King any money, this version of it. But this goes back to the loneliness idea. After seeing a ghost story, I wonder what David Lowery would do with it. That would zero in maybe on a little bit of a different angle, but would definitely capture some of the essence of what's going on in King's work.

48:23Adam Kempenaar:Okay, those are our top five superhero director combos. We'd like to see, we think you have your work cut out for you. If you're going to challenge those or come up with better ones, you can email us feedback at filmspotting.net. before we get to any honorable mentions, we do have one more listener pick we want to play.

48:39Josh Larsen:Hey guys, this is Eric Hill from Fredericton, New Bredswick, Canada. I think maybe my suggestion is David Lynch, as I would like to probably suggest David Lynch or almost anything. But my initial desire would be to see him do something with the Hulk. But since there's so many Hulk movies already, the next logical step would be a She-Hulk movie. Now, She-Hulk in Marvel Comics is the cousin, of course, of Hulk, also irradiated. And I thought Lynch, with his way of dealing with externalized depictions of multiple personalities and women in trouble, would be a natural thing. But to put a Lynch spin on it, perhaps he could ditch the whole CGI angle and just cast two different actresses to play the same part.

49:23Josh Larsen:Perhaps maybe Naomi Watts playing Jennifer Walters, the lawyer part of the duo, and Uma Thurman playing sort of an angrier lawyer part of the duo. And I don't know. Beyond that, what would they fight? What would they battle? Some sort of microwave planet? I don't know. So long as maybe the villain at the end was a mutated version of Bobby Peru from Wild at Heart. Anyway, it's a loose idea for now, but you kind of get where it's going. Thanks a lot, and have a great show.

49:53Adam Kempenaar:Well, if he didn't have me at David Lynch, and he did, He certainly had me when he added Naomi Watts and Uma Thurman, and then it was really sold at Bobby Peru. I thought he had you at She-Hulk.

50:03Josh Larsen:I pegged you for a big She-Hulk guy. No, missed out on She-Hulk. Your credibility ends there. Indeed. All right, so my honorable mentions, I'm just going to list a few others from listeners because, as I said, Greta Gerwig was so popular. Here are four Gerwig options I heard from Taylor S. Cole, Kitty Pryde, from Aaron Schaefer, Dazzler, from Dave Enna, Batman, and then at FilmGuy619 went with Batgirl. You made that up, FilmGuy619.

50:29Adam Kempenaar:No, you'll find him there on Twitter. Well, speaking of Twitter, we do have to give some credit here, I think, to Robert Lewis, the Reverend Robert Lewis, who wrote in going back to the very start of this segment with Wes Anderson directing a reboot of the original X-Men in their original yellow and blue uniforms. He would do a great job with properly weaving their intricate stories together, his focusing on characters, his use of detailed sets and exploration of emotion. So I'm guessing I'm going to give Robert the credit that he has not seen that YouTube video and instead was just going off of what he would like to see.

51:01Adam Kempenaar:But right in line with that YouTube video, certainly. I was so worn out. I expended all my creative juices, Josh, on those top five. And I love my top five. So I don't have any more pitches to give you. I do have just a few names I jotted down. Two of them you mentioned, Dee Reese and Greta Gerwig. What about Barry Jenkins, Sean Baker, Jeremy Sonier, Spike Lee doing a superhero movie? And then a lot of people wrote in and said, well, you know, Edgar Wright could just make Ant-Man. And that would be great. There's a lot of Ant-Man angst relived online. So those are some directors I'd like to see.

51:37Adam Kempenaar:A couple other superheroes. Batgirl. We haven't gotten the Batgirl movie yet, so a take on that could be intriguing. One of our favorite villains came up on a recent top five superhero costumes we did. We really are the show about superheroes. Pretty much. Maybe we really do have geek cred. What am I talking about? Rorschach. Let's give Rorschach his own movie, right? And find a director who knows how to make those kind of great pulpy noir stories. And then we need someone to do justice to Daredevil because the Ben Affleck Daredevil, I know there's a series, I think it was a Netflix series. I have not watched that series.

52:15Adam Kempenaar:I'm just saying for the big screen, we need to redeem the Ben Affleck Daredevil. I don't know who the best director is for that. Maybe one of the names I mentioned, maybe a Jeremy Sonier would be great for Daredevil. This is going to shock you.

52:27Josh Larsen:Also, mildly positive on the Ben Affleck Daredevil. do I get any cred for that?

52:34Adam Kempenaar:No.

52:35Josh Larsen:Or did I lose cred?

52:36Adam Kempenaar:Yeah, now your whole list has been stricken from the record. He can hear it before it makes a sound.

52:46Adam Kempenaar:He can sense it before it happens. So those are the superhero director combos that we'd like to see. We'd love to hear. We know it's an old top five, but we'd love to hear whether or not you'd like to see those combos or if you have better producer vision than we do.

53:03Josh Larsen:You can let us know. It's been eight years and none of these

53:07Adam Kempenaar:have been greenlit. Not that we're aware unless someone, maybe it's in development. Maybe someone took our ideas. Let's say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all in development. Yes. In our minds, they're all in development. Thanks for listening, everyone.

53:24Josh Larsen:This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

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