In short
Part 2 of “Chernobyl (Part 2/3)” focuses on the immediate aftermath of the April 26, 1986 reactor 4 power surge, the explosions, radiation levels, early Soviet denial/disinformation, delayed evacuation, and how the crisis spreads beyond Pripyat via a radioactive plume.
Guests
Finn vs. History host Finn (also “Finn vs. History” narrator) is joined by Horatio Gould (comedian/host). The episode also references real historical figures (e.g., Valery Legasov; Vasily Ignatenko; Anatoly Sitnikov; Dyatlov; Akimov/Toptonov; Gorbachev) but they are not guests.
Key claims
Reactor 4 power surges to 100,000% of design; steam then hydrogen explosion destroys the roof and exposes the core. Early readings are grossly underestimated (decimeter readings like “3.6 rhenjens” vs far higher true levels). Acute radiation syndrome is described as “ass” and the miniseries is said to exaggerate timing/appearance; symptoms typically unfold over days/weeks with latency. Soviet authorities prioritize information control (KGB) and issue a heavily downplayed statement.
Notable examples
Valery Perivozenko reports the reactor is exposed and is dismissed; firefighters treat it like a conventional fire and later must be buried in lead/zinc coffins; Vasily Ignatenko dies after severe burns/necrosis. Evacuation begins ~36 hours later; Scandinavia detects the plume and Europe responds with school closures and radiophobia. Liquidators are later organized to contain emissions and prevent further reactor involvement.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChernobyl's Immediate Aftermath
1:30 to 4:40
A discussion about the events immediately following the Chernobyl disaster.
“A lovely soundscape there of what must have been heard down the corridor.”
Understanding Reactor Surges
4:40 to 7:40
Explains the mechanics behind the reactor surge and its consequences.
“Stress, it's important to say stress ages you and it takes...”
The Explosion and Its Impact
7:40 to 10:40
Detailed account of the explosions and their immediate impact on the reactor.
“And also bad stuff's going out, crucially, as well.”
Reactor Assessment and Misunderstandings
10:40 to 13:01
Discussion on the assessment of the reactor damage and the cultural misconceptions.
“Now, the easier explanation that Brukhanov and his boys think is that there had been a huge hydrogen explosion or a steam rupture, which would be serious but contained.”
Reactor Assessment and Misunderstandings
13:04 to 14:00
Discussion on the assessment of the reactor damage and the cultural misconceptions.
“This is a virtual private network with which you can explore images of Vag Pussy Nunga Nungas.”
Command Center Discussion
14:00 to 14:38
The hosts discuss the concept of a constantly moving command center.
Radiation Exposure Risks
15:51 to 16:41
Discussion on the risks of radiation exposure and symptoms.
“So, yeah, the big risk of radiation exposure is that you get something which...”
Chernobyl's Acute Radiation Syndrome
16:41 to 17:41
Exploring the realities of acute radiation syndrome vs. misrepresentations in media.
“This is the worst Monday these guys have ever had.”
Sauna and Sperm Health
17:41 to 18:49
Discussion on sauna use and its effects on sperm health and fertility.
“picture of like charlie google the photos of um the chernobyl mini series acute radiation sickness it like their skin melts they potentially rot while they're alive and um the brutal thing is They get better.”
Brian Johnson's Ice Packs
18:49 to 19:34
Detailed discussion on Brian Johnson's ice packs and their purpose.
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Extreme Effects of Radiation
19:34 to 21:03
Explaining the extreme effects of radiation exposure on the body over time.
Organ Liquefaction from Radiation
21:03 to 21:58
Exploration of how radiation can cause organs to liquefy.
“So your skin melt, like sort of dissolve, and then it isn't replaced.”
Symptoms of Acute Radiation
21:58 to 23:05
Details on the symptoms that manifest after acute radiation exposure.
“I genuinely think there should have been a case for just like, okay, just pull it in the head.”
Confusion and Health Impact
23:05 to 24:06
Discussion on the confusion experienced by those suffering from radiation exposure.
Firefighters at Chernobyl
24:06 to 25:16
Story of the firefighters who responded to the Chernobyl disaster without knowing the risks.
“And his wife's played by Jesse Buckley, I believe.”
First Responders and Radiation
25:16 to 26:29
Details on how first responders were exposed to radiation during the Chernobyl disaster.
“So what, you poured a boiling hot pan of eggs on your head this morning?”
Memorializing First Responders
26:29 to 27:12
A humorous take on creating a memorial for first responders dealing with aftermaths.
“They're like, well, let's just get rid of these burning fragments, not knowing that that's graphite.”
Conclusion and Recap
27:12 to 28:05
Recap of the health impacts of radiation and the firefighters' experience at Chernobyl.
“they enter this lethal environment, they don't know that all this thick smoke has got radioactive particles.”
The Horrors of Radiation Exposure
28:05 to 29:26
Understanding the effects and symptoms of radiation exposure.
“because of arse i mean it's so why is it called arse why is it called give them some dignity like It's the worst death ever, and it's called arse.”
Historical Context of Chernobyl
29:27 to 31:25
Exploring the timeline and context surrounding the Chernobyl disaster.
“It's post Yakult, pre the last British Energy blackout, which is 2019.”
First Responders and Their Fates
31:26 to 32:49
Discussing the tragic consequences faced by first responders at Chernobyl.
“So Vasily Ignatzko, his body is so deformed and swollen that his shoes and clothes don't fit.”
Gorbachev and the Response to the Disaster
32:50 to 33:55
Analyzing Gorbachev's policies and the Soviet response to the Chernobyl crisis.
“It would make sense if he had been born after Chernobyl because he's got an egghead.”
Public Perception and Panic
34:40 to 36:48
Examining the public's reaction and misinformation surrounding the disaster.
“I mean, it must be said as well that obviously, as we discussed in our Russian Revolution series, Russians, and I'd say Ukrainians as well, not to power Putin, but they're quite similar, they love suffering.”
Evacuation and Its Consequences
36:49 to 42:00
Describing the evacuation process and its long-term effects on the residents.
“The screams, and I just put the classical music on slightly louder than the screams.”
The Immediate Aftermath of Chernobyl
42:00 to 43:58
Explore the global reactions and initial responses following the Chernobyl disaster.
“Sort of like when Grenfell, when everyone was like, well, my fucking building's made of this shit as well.”
Soviet Response and Media Reactions
43:58 to 45:37
Analyze the Soviet government's response and the sensationalist media coverage.
“This is one of the great understatements of the age.”
The Role of Liquidators in Containing the Disaster
45:37 to 47:38
Learn about the liquidators tasked with managing the fallout from Chernobyl.
“Boron we're alright it's not as if our president's got an egg on his head anyway so the state assembles this vast workforce who is tasked to contain the disaster and led by Legasov and 30 people.”
Helicopter Missions and Hazards
47:38 to 49:24
Discuss the dangerous helicopter missions to contain the fire at Chernobyl.
“So again, you know, pizza ovens is another way of making steam.”
Miners and the Underground Efforts
49:24 to 51:41
Examine the role of miners in creating a barrier beneath the reactor.
“That's very offensive to Chinese people.”
Roof Work and Radiation Risks
51:41 to 54:02
Investigate the hazardous work conditions on the Chernobyl reactor roof.
“quite like that yeah the meaning of life is suffering you knowst pegas bum yeah who wants to do that yes please does anyone want their skin to fall off in order to build a conqueror Creek Barrett.”
Health Consequences of Cleanup Workers
54:02 to 56:00
Discuss the health impacts faced by the workers involved in the cleanup.
“How have you made the hardest people the laziest?”
The Immediate Aftermath of Chernobyl
56:00 to 58:01
Explore the immediate effects and human toll of the Chernobyl disaster.
“Of the two most prepared for it, culturally.”
Transcript
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1:26Welcome back to part two of our Chernobyl series. It's Finn vs. History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. Ah, fuck! Ah! Fuck out. A lovely soundscape there of what must have been heard down the corridor. Oh, fuck it. What? Oh, no. Ow. Ow. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. We think. Is it hot? I don't really understand. It is hot. It does. It's very hot. It's an awful, awful way to go. I think it's up there with the worst. Yeah. Your skin sort of boils and flays. Your DNA separates. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. This is part two. So do you change race, then? we'll get to that i think yes i i'm not sure mix and match you're like you're like glitching you're like asian you're like black you're gay you're jewish poc people of chernobyl um at 1 23 a.m on april the 26th 1986 uh a nerd is trying to woo a lady warning my reactor's power supply is dangerously low this is charlie flushing the toilet at this point just just absolutely Freddie getting the toilet flush going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, please, please, please, please, please, please, please.
2:35No, don't stick out the horse. Ah! So, we dealt with the science of Chernobyl in our last episode comprehensively. No one can say they don't know what's happening. Now, the power surge, the power level in RBMK Reactor 4. Talk to me now. In the Chernobyl power plant. Button me up, then. It surges to 100 ,000 % of the original design. That's way too much. Far too much. i don't know what what how is it able to yeah it's like why do why do cars go up to 250 miles an hour what's the point well yeah i'm not allowed to drive that fast yeah but on the autobahn you can oh have you been on an autobahn yeah is it crazy fuck yeah it's mental two lanes there's a lane where for trucks and 30 miles an hour and then uh do you feel lucky lane yeah when you're scary it's terrifying because you're scared people are going to crash into you yeah i mean i was i literally we drove through germany uh when i was maybe 20 21 in like my mate's reno right tiny little thing uh and you're you're constantly looking out and it's just really and you're stuck behind a lorry so you're going 50 right and then you like quickly get into the overtaking and then you've got mercedes and and um like that behind you and you're like and then you're looking for any gap to try and pull back in.
3:58It's like a computer game. It's terrifying. The amount of ground you can cover if you use it right though. Yeah. How quickly you can get across the country. Well listen, the infrastructure's terrific. One of the legacies of the Nazis is that they left a terrific road infrastructure. And we, you know, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. but you seem to be drowning the baby in the bathwater. Let's not throw the bathwater out with that baby. There was some great warm bathwater that the Nazis created. What's what's really about? Let's just keep it all in the bath, shall we? There's a baby in a bath and that's lovely.
4:26It's lovely. Bath time. Let's put some more babies in this bath. Let's fill up the bath with babies and water. Why do we have to throw anything out? Anyway, we're talking about Chernobyl and it's the evening of April 26th and people are stressed. Yeah, high cortisol. They've got a lot going on. Stress, it's important to say stress ages you and it takes... So does nuclear exposure. That's true. But it could have been the stress. It's a double team, isn't it? Yes. Their hair, they've got grey hairs and also their face is falling off. And who knows what causes watch. So we've got a picture up now.
5:04Kind of immaculate vibes though. Like you could see like a listening bar. Do you know what a listening bar is? I do. Yeah, a listening bar designed like this. I think it's bollocks, I'll say. I actually have never been to one. No, me neither. Wouldn't be seen dead in one. You could make a nice one if it was built like the control room. A listening bar? I go to a bar to spout opinions I don't want to listen to other people I don't want to listen to a bar that's my pub because you don't get listened to at home no, or at work no one's listening but that is a vibe, click on some of those pics and also we haven't talked about how lo-fi shinobal beats to lo-fi beats to face melty what we haven't talked about is how everyone who works at Chernobyl is dressed like a dinner lady they're all wearing white coats and little white hats why the white hats let's do nuclear power plant UK is it just everyone dressed like a Hinkley Point are they dressing like workers workers not core because obviously you can't type I know but a nuclear power plant core is the core of a reactor workers yeah but it's also the aesthetic I know but it would not workers workers workers workers uniforms obviously idiot stupid guy yeah they're all in blue and high guys dumb oh no hang on there and white 80s now do 80s let's just see if it's pretty lit going like the monsters inc SWAT team monsters inc SWAT team okay so no that is what no but that's all our MBK we want Britain interesting so maybe maybe it is just the standard nuclear but it's weird I wonder if it's a Soviet thing as well well they just look like sort of they look like chefs yeah and what they're cooking doesn't taste good I'm sending this maybe the worst tasting thing maybe the worst meal of all time yeah this is the worst meal of all time I die and all my kids die it's like generational death yes yeah so everyone has to leave all animals have to be destroyed no one's allowed anywhere near this for 20 ,000 years and any babies that are in the womb will grow up with no legs but they may win Paralympics so every mushroom cloud every mushroom cloud now after the power surge two explosions follow in rapid succession it's the Soviet 9-11 first the steam and seconds later a more destructive hydrogen-based explosion.
7:23Another one. Another one. These blasts destroy the reactor building's roof, which triggers a major graphite fire. The force of the explosion destroys the core and opens the interior of reactor four to the atmosphere. And the oxygen's rushing in, which I imagine does something. And also bad stuff's going out, crucially, as well. yeah valer valery kodemchuk he's a worker in the plant he's immediately killed and buried under debris and his body is never recovered um now he must be fucked i i would love to have a look at him because one thing that chernobyl that's charlie coming in after a big weekend yeah if we do this this is why it's good that we do this we record these on tuesdays not mondays yeah because otherwise it would be like the guy buried yeah your body can never be recovered on a monday it's on a tuesday morning it's underneath radioactive rubble yeah you're hauling yourself out from whatever sex club you died in on the weekend i know this is very well done in the the opening of the chernobyl miniseries is where you go to the control room and they're like the atlov's like fuck it cool it fucking what's happening start the test dj dj yeah he's twisted Bop it.
8:32This is the original Fred again. They're going, oh no, oh fuck. Dead again. Dead again. The immediate response to the explosion is complete disbelief and denial. Valery Perivozenko runs to assess the damage and returns having witnessed what he thinks is impossible, which is the reactor is exposed and the cause exposed. It's exposing itself. It's a paedophile on the playground. Yes. With a big coat. It's a peeping Tom. they've opened up the reactor and I can see your core get that core away from those kids now there's fragments of graphite scattered all over the site there are flames rising from the wreckage he tells Dyatlov and the boys this and they're like nah, bollocks I don't want it to be true therefore it isn't this is not true that has to be bollocks because if it's not we're all completely fucked Sorry, I'm just going to say.
9:30Sorry, it's not true. So it's not true. Because they go, our BMK reactors don't explode in that way. Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams. Graphite, reactor cores don't explode. Yeah. So what you saw is a lie. Yeah. We're getting into the Soviet culture. And they call disinformation, which is interesting. They always say that this is disinformation. Disinformation is misinformation. Yeah? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's a direct. Yeah. I don't think that's news to anyone. I don't think that's a take. they mean the same thing yeah do you think you're the first person to make that connection disinformation is misinformation yes they mean the same thing no yeah they do yeah yeah thank you very much porridge is oatmeal in many ways mind blowing is it no okay well then you're not neither was your thing well you're wrong then what do you mean I'm wrong porridge is porridge disinformation is misinformation porridge is oatmeal is it Yes.
10:30Always? Yes. Well, there is a difference between disinformation and misinformation. What about instant porridge?
10:37It's instant oatmeal. Is it? Yeah, it's just a different word for porridge. Straight up. It's a different word for porridge. Straight out of the ground. What do you mean? What's oatmeal? Oh, God. I never seem to learn. Yeah. Forget about porridge, Charlie. Porridge is not involved in this story. I love porridge. I know. Now, the easier explanation that Brukhanov and his boys think is that there had been a huge hydrogen explosion or a steam rupture, which would be serious but contained. So they don't appreciate quite how bad it is. So they get these, they have these, they're not called Geiger counters, they're called decimitars.
11:12Decimitars, yeah. And... So the little things that go... And they tell you the radiation, right? And they show 3.6 rontogens. How do I say that? There's a lot of vowels there. Runchens. What's the South African word? Runchens. Runchens. It sounds like a South African slur. Runchen. Rhenjen. Rhenjen. Rhenjen or runchen. Anyway. It's a bloody rhenjen. 3.6 rhenjens per hour, which is the equivalent to 360 chest x-rays in one go. But the decimeter only went to 3.6 rhenjens. So they wrote it down to 3.6 and said that's bad, but not terrible. That's not actually that bad. Yeah. Considering the thing's blown up, that's actually fine.
12:02That's all right. Brilliant. Send that off to the polyp bureau. Yeah, we're giving the immediate surroundings a big chest x-ray. Yeah. Fine. In fact, the real figure was something like 15 ,000 wrenchons, which is the equivalent to 1.5 million x-rays per hour. Yeah. So about 25 ,000 a minute. Yeah. Or 400 x-rays every second. Which is bad. Yeah, you don't want that. You know how you go for an x-ray and they put like a steel thing over your balls? Yeah. Imagine there's 400 x-rays. Yeah. All pointed at your balls. So,
12:38Anatoly Sitnikov. Anatoly. Not the Anatoly. He's an engineer. He's sent to go and have a look. And he's like, why me though? Do I have to do it? Why do I have to go and have a nosy at this? And he goes to look at the reactor area and he is severely irradiated. Right. Which is bad. Yeah, it sounds probably better than it is. This episode of Finn vs. History is sponsored by Surfshark. Ooh. Yes. Yes. VPN. We love it. Vag Pussy Nunga Nungas. It's all there. This is the opposite of that. This is not a Vag Pussy Nunga Nungas. This is a virtual private network with which you can explore images of Vag Pussy Nunga Nungas.
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15:41Or not. We are outgunned and we are outmanned, but we have each other. FX's The Bear, the final season. All episodes now streaming on Disney+. We should talk about... So, yeah, the big risk of radiation exposure is that you get something which... You get Thomas Muller in between the lines. Yes, of your cells. To add insult to injury, it's called acute radiation syndrome. ass so not only have they not been through enough I know not only these men's skin falling off and their faces melting but the cause of death is ass which is very very very sad yeah Akimov and Toptonov they are like right let's open the water valves to pour water in because Dyatlov's like I'll fucking cool it down pour water over it and he's like well the reactor can still be stabilised but the core has been destroyed the core's gone core blimey Cor, blimey.
16:40So both those men, Akimov and Toptonov, they get lethal doses of arse. Have I had worse Mondays? Hey? Have I had worse Mondays? These guys hadn't had worse Mondays. This is the worst Monday these guys have ever had. Yeah, it's one of the worst Mondays anyone's ever had. I think it is the worst Monday. If you go to work, this is as bad as Mondays get. No one in the control room is going, bloody hell, I had worse Mondays. My face is melted. some of them are saying I've had better Mondays yeah last Monday was better than this Monday do you remember last Monday we um oh we took last Monday for granted yeah it was bank holiday actually we had the day off went to the pub it was brilliant this Monday's fucking awful my skin's fallen off yeah and it's a bit stingy Akimov dies on the 10th of May so two weeks later and Toputnov dies on the 14th of May now we should get into Arse acute radia don't look at me like that acute radiation syndrome because this is what the chernobyl series uh apparently uh gets uh wrong okay or in that rather than so they paint a picture of like charlie google the photos of um the chernobyl mini series acute radiation sickness it like their skin melts they potentially rot while they're alive and um the brutal thing is They get better.
18:04Yes, there's a latency. Yeah, look, that one there. Yeah, get that up. So this is from the miniseries. What did they get wrong? Is that what happened? So that is what happens. However, that takes like weeks and months and it's not over hours. Right, that's me after sauna. You've got to cold plunge, Akimov. You need to sauna, then cold plunge, okay?
18:32you know 15 minutes brian johnson's selling branded ice packs for your balls to keep your fertility markers up yeah saunas get rid of your microplastics and your ejaculate did you know that so that's good very good but then why do you have to ice it because i'm saunering all the time but i'm not taking my ball ice to the gym you're not taking your ball ice to the gym where are you leaving your ball ice that's at home your ball ice should be on you at all times at all times it should be a key ring you know how you can get those pocket sized sriracha bottles that you go on a key ring you have ball ice you have ball ice so you can just go like that sriracha ball ice so yeah so because Brian Johnson he measures his cum after the thing and he says that's the yeah because he's a cool guy
19:15I saw it and then I measured my cum any further questions your honour is that a crime no it's not a crime is it an ick maybe not to me it's not that's personal preference it's pretty mad for him to just slide link up to a woman in the bar going yeah i've got an 18 year old's erections and no microplastics in my ejaculate want to come home and if you want to see the paperwork here it is yeah here it is yeah yeah you better get rid of microplastics in your car but then why does he have to ice his balls because because the one downside of saunering as much as he says i deferred to the cum specialist thank you no i'm a sauna specialist i'm not a cum specialist that's charlie um the one downside of saunering he's come special needs that's what yeah sorry he's got special needs come you know brian johnson says that saunering uh whatever amount of times a week is overall markers for whatever he's measuring is very good the one downside is that your fertility markers go get quite bad your sperm count is bad okay so to counteract that he sells brian johnson branded ice ball packs um and like trunks that you put an ice pack in in order to so that offsets the negative so that it's a wholly good experience going to sauna without it's not the end of the world i don't think so but he probably would say he probably thinks so yeah but he's not you've got to cold plunge afterwards hot cold hot cold hot cold okay he's fucked it that guy yeah uh what ars does what arse does is over the course of like weeks it complete immune system collapse so it's like i guess it's like super aids almost super aids super aids yeah i think get the picture of uh freddie mercury in the bed with uh 50 guys this is the scientist at chernobyl is it i'm just trying to paint a vivid picture for the listener so sorry it's freddie but we're looking at a photo here of freddie mercury to be fair looks like one of the best nights over freddie mercury is like a sleepover is in a you'd have to say that's a super a super king bed velvet there's maybe 10 guys all good looking massive tashes and muscles so you're saying freddie mercury is the chernobyl core and his boys are the science that's super that's super right so fast forward uh a week and they all look like akimov yeah so uh what it does is it dissolves it basically it essentially liquefies your organs over the course of weeks because you're set it It destroys the things in you that make new cells.
21:43It's like extreme herpes. Yes, or super aids, extreme herpes. So your cells can't divide anymore. So your skin melt, like sort of dissolve, and then it isn't replaced. So there's no blood clad, no more blood clots. And then your organs liquefy, become sort of a soup. Yeah. Kill me. Yeah, well, that's... Well, yeah, you're dying. You are dying. Kill me immediately. Yeah. I genuinely think there should have been a case for just like, okay, just pull it in the head. it's just bold. Surely. If you're shooting all the dogs, shoot the fucking... They're not shooting... This is a point where they have to destroy animals.
22:15Oh, yeah. You're not putting them down. You're destroying them. Fucking what? Microwave. Well, no, that's the opposite. The whole place is a microwave. No, you're like just in an oven, just holocaust. Done. Just destroy the animals. So... But then they get better, right? In the first few minutes and hours after acute exposure to acute radiation, there'll be nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and fatigue and i like fat i mean that's just you know that's a wednesday for me right um i've got diarrhea and i'm tired brilliant well yeah you've got ass whatever i've got i've got ass yeah now then there is a latency period of about three days where you think it's fine but this is where the radiation is like in between the lines right pep guardiola and your bone it's bending the run yeah so after a temporary symptom free latency period severe symptoms emerge including fever dehydration neurological dysfunction this is where your hair is then manifest illness stage symptoms based on the specific type of syndrome so bone marrow uh infections hair loss severe skin burns internal bleeding and dehydration so uh gastrointestinal syndrome neurovascular syndrome confusion immediate loss of consciousness death within days when they say confusion is it like i'm confused i feel like my uh my organs are turning into a confused.com cup of soup confused.com cup of soup organs what's going on in here i'm in a bit of a muddle yeah i mean confusion yeah you would be a little bit confused excuse me uh what's going on here then what's all this then hello hello hello my liver seems to be pouring out my ass
24:00I don't really know what's going on Confused.com Confused.com would be a brilliant advert the Chernobyl guys my liver's pouring out my arse is anyone else's liver pouring out their arse I'm pretty sure my liver was solid a minute ago and now it's literally on the floor music now there's a guy called Vasily Ignatenko who's one of the main characters in the Chernobyl miniseries who's a firefighter yes And we'll get to the first one shortly. And his wife's played by Jesse Buckley, I believe. Yes, lovely bit of business. Lovely bit of dogs for the rabbits to see. I think it's him, or maybe it's another firefighter.
24:37Charlie, you're going to hate this, so I want you to look at me when I tell you this. He was discovered, the autopsy, after he died, he had a third degree burn blisters on his heart. How? You know, if you touch a hot pan, which I imagine you do quite a lot. And you get like... Is this red mark on my head? How have you put a pan on your head? I tried to go... How did you put a hot pan in your head? I was trying to find a thing this morning when I went up and I was cooking eggs and I hit my head on the pan. Was this morning? Yeah, really. You poured a hot egg pan on it. You were saying that as sort of a general joke.
25:07It happened this morning. Why is it always so recent? It's always... It's always so recent. Two hours ago. Fuck, I can see that. Yeah. It really hurts. Yeah. So what, you poured a boiling hot pan of eggs on your head this morning? No, I hit my head into a boiling pan of eggs. The eggs didn't fall on my head. Was it the handle? It was the rim of the pan. The rim is the pan? Yeah. How are you getting anywhere near the rim or the pan? I needed to get... Were you going for a header from a corner? I was going for some stuff from the cupboard and then came up and smacked it. First thing that happened today.
25:35Fucking hell. First thing that happened today? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But I've smashed a glass. I've got this massive juice stain on the floor of my room. You know that thick juice, the healthy thick juice? Naked smoothie or something? Yeah. Got that all over my carpet. I need to borrow some of that vanish, if that's all right. Is that all right? Yeah. Yeah, fine. Any other business? That's it. Okay, great. You can borrow it at the vanage. Thank you. Anyway, he had a burnt heart. He died of a broken heart.
26:07Sort of. Sort of. Sort of. Sort of. Bit literal. Yeah. Also, his heart exploded from getting too hot. He's about to Gaviscon. So firefighters immediately arrive at the scene, right? And the tragedy is that they think they're just dealing with a conventional fire. Soviet 9-11, isn't it? This is the Soviet 9-11. So they climb onto... First responders. They are the first responders. They climb onto the roof. They're like, well, let's just get rid of these burning fragments, not knowing that that's graphite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, touch that. Yeah. Worst thing you could touch in the world. Nothing worse to touch.
26:39Yeah. It's going to the toilet that Charlie's throwing in and just touching it. Oh, we're just cleaning this up. Yeah, okay, fine. To be honest, we should give a similar amount of respect to the cleaners who had to deal with your Airbnb. The first responders to Charlie's holiday poos. We will remember them. We will remember them, yeah. There'll be a statue in their honour. They should build a memorial. A monument, yeah. It's just like the flush from the system going down, much like the 9-11 memorial. So the firefighters arrive, they enter this lethal environment, they don't know that all this thick smoke has got radioactive particles.
27:18They all begin to be able to start tasting metal. Yeah. Which is... So this is sort of like, so read these three bullet points. This is sort of like going down on a woman, right? You taste metal, your skin turns red and hot, and many begin vomiting and collapsing within the hour. Yeah. It's me going down on a woman. My God. I did not know I was entering a lethal environment.
27:46I thought this was just a normal industrial fire. And then you vomit, you have diarrhea, you're nauseous your skin peels and then you think you're better that's the tragedy yeah i'll go back for seconds and then my skin falls off yeah um so vasily dies 18 days later having suffered skin necrosis google that let's have a look at skin necrosis and organ failure because of arse i mean it's so why is it called arse why is it called give them some dignity like It's the worst death ever, and it's called arse. At least call it SRS, severe radiation. Let's have a look at some photos. This is skin necrosis.
28:29It looks like my bearded dragon's poo. Can you say full body skin necrosis? Oh, God. I'm going to ignore the thing you just said about your bearded dragon's poo. I don't know what that's a euphemism for. I don't want to know. It's not. He's called Roger. Right. Again. Oh. Oh. Oh. Look at that on the face. Yeah, there you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you like this kind of stuff, switch the video. Fuck me. We must warn, do not go down on a woman. This is why Jamaicans don't go down on women. Who was it? Michael Douglas. Who was it? That's Michael Douglas there. Him. That's Michael Douglas after going down to Catherine Zeta-Jones.
29:11And he's there going, I'll do it again. I'll do it again. He loves it. I loved it. I can't get enough. This is what a feminist looks like.
29:27they get transferred to moscow and again because of this latency period there's three days where they think they're improving because the radiation damage is still unfolding at a cellular level in the bone marrow and the gut yeah um now again this is pre-yakol we should place this yeah 1986 is it pre-yacolt it's surely pre-yacolt surely 1986 is 1986 pre-yacolt charlie not even close are you okay all right so this is after yacolt and before actimel no surely not actimel if yakolt's 1935 when that's well and it's japanese yakolt's pre-hiroshima Why is this stuff not getting involved? What is it?
30:12It's post Yakult, pre the last British Energy blackout, which is 2019. Well, the last is not, you know. Let's do... You were trying to rhyme. You got too hot in these rhymes. Yeah, we gave him too much. He had a great first one. Now he's going to... Yakult Blackult. Doesn't quite work. Find Actimel. When was Actimel founded? When was the Actimel drinking yoghurt made? because I don't want to know the... I don't like the four. That's what it is. By Denon. That's what it is. It's between the two drinking yogurts. Well, that's actually a lovely placement then. Look at that. There's a picture of Yakult and Actimel next to each other.
30:50Are you like an Actimel bother or something? Are you looking for a sponsorship? Why? You're just the tone of your voice. What? No, it is where an Actimel's pound is, actually. Yeah. That's a lovely placement, I think. Yeah, but it is a lovely placement, but do you really like Actimel? I don't hate Actimel. Yeah, because you've got... beneath you there is some there's a bubbling food yeah there's a thing neuroses yeah there's something going on the other day you were like if you're trying to cut down on salt you could use lemon juice and you just said that you said that unironically as if you're just putting lemon juice on pepper on steak yeah crazy it is a good um it was good though um so the firefighters bodies so yeah so they arrive and uh they don't know quite quickly some of them start vomiting and shitting themselves.
31:33And everyone's like, bloody hell. Cowards. Keep it in. Come on. You're meant to be trained for this. Yeah. But they end up, the first responders, their bodies are so radioactive that they have to be buried in coffins made of lead and zinc, welded shut, and then covered in concrete to prevent the corpse from contaminating the area. So Vasily Ignatzko, his body is so deformed and swollen that his shoes and clothes don't fit. And then during the autopsy, oh yeah, that's when they find and they had burn buttons on his heart. So imagine being buried in a fucking zinc coffin and then just concrete poured on.
32:08Yeah, it's like a fucking superhero villain. It's crazy. To make sure you never wreak havoc on the earth again. As the scale of the accident starts to become clearer, the crisis starts to reach the actual upper echelons of the Soviet state. So the deputy minister of energy stresses that measures are being taken by the staff to cool down the active zone of the reactor. Okay, fine. Sounds like you've got it under control. health officials say the adoption of special measures including evacuating the population from the city is totally unnecessary. Everyone remain calm. So... The KGP is stopping any of the information getting out.
32:42Yes, because again... Cracking down. We should talk about how this is 1986 in the Soviet Union. This is, you know, Gorbachev, who's in power now, the ugliest leader. Yeah, egghead. Egghead. He's got an egg on his head. Sorry. Pre-Chernobyl. Yeah, exactly. It would make sense if he had been born after Chernobyl because he's got an egghead. And he did a lot of press picks with victims of Chernobyl because it was the best he ever looked. Well, the best they ever looked, they felt better. Gorbachev has initiated this policy of glasnost, which means openness. Yes. So he's gone. We've been too... He's the great moderniser.
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34:01The final season of FX is the Bear. The restaurant is flooded. Everything's either going to be okay. No, stop. Or not. We are outgunned and we are outmanned. We have each other. FX is the Bear, the final season. All episodes now streaming on Disney+. You want to impress them on a first date, but also play it cool. So what do you do? I'm Rufy Thorpe, and I wrote and read a real love story about a hinged couple that navigated exactly that. Listen to the free audiobook now. Well, Russians are like, why the fuck are you being open? We're a deeply closeted country. I mean, it must be said as well that obviously, as we discussed in our Russian Revolution series, Russians, and I'd say Ukrainians as well, not to power Putin, but they're quite similar, they love suffering.
34:56so Chernobyl's as much as they love cabbage they love it cabbage and suffering fish and chips strawberries and cream cabbage and face melting from nuclear exposure they love it so this is actually great stuff for them yeah so Gorbachev has initiated this policy of glasnost which means openness he's saying oh the Soviet Union's been too secretive and this has held us back and Chernobyl really stress tests that because he goes actually no we're not fucking certain we can't we can't say we can't be open about everything yeah a man's got to have secrets yeah um so in the initial hours after what's going on what happened in the group chat well that's private it's for me to know and you to never find out um so what happens is this vacuum massive beam of light is shot out of this exposed core so everyone in pripyat's like oh they think it's like fireworks yeah um so life carries on people hear this big noise and they see this sort of strange glow over the power plant but the city remains calm because they don't tell the children are playing outside people are walking to get a good view of the glow it's sort of on a much smaller scale boris johnson as soon as the covid hit shaking everyone's making a big thing of shaking everyone's hand yeah as it's been like announced yeah it's sort of yeah sneeze in my mouth yeah come on windows are left open because it's a lovely spring evening normal life continues for more than a day, right?
36:25Some residents think that the bluish hue in the air is beautiful. Now, there's this story about the Bridge of Death, which I think is maybe apocryphal, but the story is that there's a railway bridge where residents are gathering to watch the burning reactor and everyone who stands on that bridge ends up dying from aviation exposure. And the bridge is real and apparently people went and had a look, but there's no evidence that everyone died from it. citizens start to have this sense that maybe something's a bit wrong because they hear uh in on the kiev loudspeakers uh the regular programming stops and classical music starts it's just like we don't know what to say let's just play apparently that's a familiar signal that bad news is being managed which is now i have a similar thing in my house when i put classic fm on in the car or in the house because there's bad the kids are being a nightmare Auschwitz guard, right?
37:17Auschwitz guard. I've said this before. I am an Auschwitz guard. The screams, and I just put the classical music on slightly louder than the screams. Chopping carrots. Chopping carrots, like an Auschwitz guard. Just drowning the screams out with some nice Brahms. Yeah. Do you think that's more sinister than if you put on death metal? Is that... But that's not helping. There's not a contradiction there. I guess the classical music is the whole point. It's like a serial killer drinking milk. It's like... Are you saying that there's an Auschwitz guard and while he's hearing the screams, he's like, I mean, that is fucked.
37:55It's hardly, yeah, it is fucked. I don't know if it's sinister because sinister implies I've got a bad feeling about this. It's just openly sort of evil, I guess. Yeah, because... No disguise on it. There's something... Something gives me the creeps about this Auschwitz. Welcome to hell, the gates are dead.
38:16yeah i don't know what's creeper actually i think if i was if i was a prisoner in auschwitz and then i saw people being ushered out of ovens and there's just classical music i'm like god this is awful yeah this is civilized people that are doing this the barbarity but if it was just a fucking troll be like it's just fucking hell you'd be like fuck me yeah this is yeah this is well, this tracks, of course you're burning people, you're into death metal. Anyway, so an evacuation order finally arrives on the 27th of April, 36 hours after the explosion. Hundreds of buses roll in, loudspeakers announce the evacuation, residents are told, now residents are told they're only leaving for like a couple of days or whatever.
38:59That's why when I went there, there's still everything's messed completely as it was. So they just take food and they basically, the main worry at this point is people are not allowed to take their dogs and their cats which is very sad and so they're going oh fuck will the dog the dog be all right without anyone for two days that's what they're thinking yeah no it won't no everyone's fucked yeah um so people lock their doors they leave food out for their pets laundry is left on the lines and tens of thousands of people are moved out in a matter of hours so they disperse into nearby towns and villages and then they become permanently resettled later when the contamination becomes pretty much undeniable.
39:39So, what's Moscow doing? At an extraordinary Politburo session on the 28th of April, the Soviet leadership start worrying about information control. Gorbachev tries, you know, and everyone's like, you've got a, he's like, no, it's just, it's there. There's an egg on your head. No, I know, but I was born with it. You've got no authority because there's an egg on your head. I can't concentrate. Can you flip it? mine's sunny side up yeah yeah anyway so there's concern about who should know and there is a radioactive cloud drifting across Soviet territory and beyond and yet they're debating the wording of a statement so as not to cause excessive panic was it sort of like notes that apology yeah you're sort of drafting it about finding the right words yeah yeah um so he Gorbachev wants to get ahead of it because he's aware that other people what I was drafting your notes the other day and I accidentally sent on a, I've only just got a hinge.
40:35And I accidentally sent her two versions of the same message in draft. Like I drafted two, like what are you doing next week? But there were two separate ways of asking it, but clearly drafted. And then I sent them as one message. So what was the double message? What are you doing? What do you want to hang out next week? And then like, what are you, you want to hang out next week? What are you doing? I think it was just like a flip. What are you doing next week? What are you doing next week? Do you want to hang out? Do you want to hang out? Do you want to hang out? Please, please. Hang out. Oi, do you want to hang out?
41:05Do you want to hang out? Go on. Yeah, it doesn't sound desperate at all. What are you doing next week? Do you want to hang out? Do you want to hang out? What are you doing next week? I chased it by saying, sorry, I got excited because you seem cool and gorgeous. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. She didn't reply. I thought she'd like it. I thought she'd think it was kind of... This is what the Politburo are doing. You seem cool and gorgeous. Christ. um so gorbachev wants to get ahead of it right he's aware that foreign countries are going to detect this release um a diplomat noted the americans will notice the fact of the explosion and the spread of the radioactive cloud anyway so we so but gorbachev's like we can't give up on nuclear power because the soviet economy is tied to it so they have to keep chernobyl running to run the grid right right so um there are 18 nuclear power plants at the time 14 of them have these RBMK reactors, so they can't afford to undermine the confidence in them because the grid would collapse.
42:01Sort of like when Grenfell, when everyone was like, well, my fucking building's made of this shit as well. It's the same sort of thing. So the challenge is not to confront the accident without allowing it to discredit the entire system. But on the morning of 28th of April, so yeah, 36, 48 hours afterwards, a nuclear plant in Sweden, radiation alarms trigger an alert. So the staff think it's local, but then it's clear that the radiation is coming from outside. There are similar readings elsewhere in Scandinavia. And so within hours, it becomes clear. They follow the wind. And he goes, well, this must be the Soviet Union because it's the south coming from the southwest.
42:40South, east, south east. So the explosion had sent a plume of radioactive particles equivalent to 400 Hiroshima bombs more than seven kilometers into the atmosphere and due east. This was Charlie on the ski trip. A toxic plume. So obviously Western intelligence is scrambling to interpret this. Food imports are monitored. And within like in Germany, West Germany as it is then, children are told to stay inside. They close playgrounds. They shut schools. There's an abortion spike across Europe because of radiophobia. I mean yeah but maybe this is why they don't have as many good Paralympians you know so it's sort of you have to weigh it up this is a tragedy for the Paralympics the amount of Paralympians we were starved on this is a holocaust for Paralympians genuinely in Germany as well probably in Germany again they won't stop doing it so radiophobia and sensationalist media information about the accident means that everyone's terrified.
43:51As a result of all this, the Kremlin is forced to issue a statement on the 28th of April. Bear in mind how bad we know this is. This is one of the great understatements of the age. An accident has occurred at the Chernobyl Atomic Power Station. One of the nuclear reactors has been damaged. Measures are being taken to eliminate the consequences of the accident. Aid is being given to the victims. Our government commission has been established. Fine. Fine. Okay, cool. You've gone under control. There's been a commission. Brilliant. Another fucking meeting. Great. So, the Council of Ministers, Jackie Weaver, they form a commission to plan the clean-up.
44:25Right. And it's chaired by Boris Shabina, Selen Skarsgård, in the miniseries. He's a party man, as they all are. Yeah. And there's not a party boy. Very different. Yes. Party man. They're very... Opposites almost. Charlie's a party boy. Korbantrop's a party man. Sure. He's a great character in the miniseries, I think. He is brilliant. I find his arcs amazing. Yeah. And then there's these key science guys, Valery Legasov, who is played by Jared Harris phenomenal actor Jared Harris brilliant and I'm just watching a Mad Men as well who appears in there as well I think one of the main historical inaccuracies that they had to do for narrative was the fact that they distilled a team of about 30 people into two people one woman one woman and him so that completely changes it because they sell it as a narrative of these two people screaming but it was actually this massive team but they just squished it all down it's not as good though so Legasov is the one who's like this is really bad he's going guys I've got a bad this is fucked and everyone's like it's alright it's not that bad chill out mate chill out Valerie Boron Boron we're alright it's not as if our president's got an egg on his head anyway so the state assembles this vast workforce who is tasked to contain the disaster and led by Legasov and 30 people.
45:53They're called the liquidators, which means a liquidator in Russian, or liquidator, means to eliminate the consequences of an accident. It's very Soviet. Very Soviet. So their job is to stop reactor four getting worse because it's beyond repair, limit radioactive emissions, and keep Chernobyl's other reactors from being pulled into the catastrophe because there are three other ones still going at this point. so the first thing is to put out the fire because the fire is giving off twice the radiation released by Hiroshima every hour yeah which really does make me think Hiroshima were they overreacting was it that bad yes I think so they're making a mountain out of a molehill a mountain out of a mushroom cloud yeah it wasn't fucking Chernobyl chill out you know what I mean it puts it into perspective I guess yeah Yeah.
46:46Anyway, so 2 ,000 degrees was how hot the fire was. Can you just give us a sense of, like, can you Google how hot other fires are? Boiling. No, I mean, Google it, Charlie. Just say boil. You can be another word for it. How hot is that? You could probably cook a pizza. How long will it take to cook a pizza? Pizza's 200 degrees, right? Pizza's 180. Pizza's 400. You can get up to 400. In 2 ,000 degrees. Yeah. So easy. Instant, like, if you put a Dr. Urca pizza in at 2 ,000 degrees. 30 seconds. Wow, that still seems very long. Oh no, she does in Fahrenheit. So it'd be 15 seconds. It'd be about 15 seconds.
47:23However, at this temperature, the pizza would move instantly from raw to completely accelerated. So it wouldn't cook. No. But it would for like a millisecond. So you'd have to just do that, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that might actually be quite delicious if you did it like that. And also how quick the production line would be. And they do look like pizza chefs. Yeah. It's a chernobablon. The whole bit there. Yeah. So again, you know, pizza ovens is another way of making steam. I don't know why we're bothering with this nuclear stuff. Because also, pizza ovens, you can make pizza. It's two birds, one stone.
47:56A government, I'm available. A white paper on why we should replace Hinkley Point C with a massive pizza oven. Anyway, it's so hot that if you poured water on it, it would just instantly vaporize. they start getting helicopters to fly over the crater and drop sand, clay, lead and boron in order to smother the fire and absorb the neutrons and to reduce the emissions, right? Which is one of the only things they can do in the first few days because nobody can get close to it. So pilots flying into highly contaminated air, they can't actually get over the core because of the thing. So all the sand they drop misses and then there is this footage of a helicopter that can't see where it's going and flies into a crane and then crashes, killing the pilot.
48:47Yeah, look at this. So this is, and it flies too close to a crane and then, oh dear. You can see someone going, fuck. Whoops. Yeah. Oh shit. Ah, yeah. Smoking. Fuck. Fuck me. Can't park there, mate. Yeah. yeah so cigs have never been more like smoke necessary yeah definitely trying to work out chernobyl it's it's very hard to make the case that you should stop smoking when you're working at chernobyl you're getting 15 000 x-rays a fucking second so uh all pretty much all the sand like misses and the flight bars are crowded with cranes and rigging and they're trying to build stuff around i mean they don't know what to do at this point right um so doesn't that doesn't really work then there's this whole thing with the miners so legasov's big fear this is charlie this is miners as in coal miners not um i'm a paedophile miners yeah yeah um legasov's big fear is that the molten core will burn through the ground and uh interact with the water in the pripyat river contaminate all the water china syndrome you wear china syndrome is that not just Down syndrome?
50:04It's not Down syndrome. That's very offensive to Chinese people. Take that back. I want you to retract that. Doesn't that sound like an uncle? Oh, what's he got? China syndrome, has he? It's a theoretical scenario where the molten core of a nuclear reactor penetrates through the earth and reaches the other side of the earth. So it's from an American perspective, which is why it's called China syndrome. Right. That's a very American name. Yeah. China syndrome. So the idea of just having a hole borrowed through the entirety of the earth. and comes out the other side. So the idea is that what happens here can affect China.
50:36Right, right. So he thinks it's going to melt down and contaminate the groundwater. So they go to the Donbass and they get 400 miners who are brought in to dig underneath the reactor to create space for like a protective concrete barrier to stabilize the ground and prevent heat from moving into a new phase. Now, I don't understand, and we'll get into this in the next final episode, if you know if you're building a steel cover for it and you're building concrete why don't you just build the fucking plan out of that in the first place what do you mean like if concrete is going to stop all this why isn't there already a concrete platform there that's true is it not been destroyed in the explosion or anything well if it has then it's there's no point putting another one here because it's melting what but you think they even bothered with like because it's so fucked if anything happens is there even any point in protecting yourself anyway because it's just fucked well this is this is they do this very well in the series is that this is uh you know it's psychological more than anything it's the soviets are going listen this country is about suffering everyone in this country ultimately dies for nothing but we're aware of it and we quite like that yeah the meaning of life is suffering you knowst pegas bum yeah who wants to do that yes please does anyone want their skin to fall off in order to build a conqueror Creek Barrett.
51:57Yeah, I'd love to. It's the only thing I believe in is my own death for the greater good. Yes, please. They're dying to die, right? So they get these miners in and they offer them these, in this mini-series at least, they offer them these like shit COVID masks and he's like, these don't fucking work, do they? If they were working, you'd be fucking wearing them. Fuck off. Yeah, he's amazing. He's amazing. He looks like Red Richardson as well. Anyway, they're working in punishing conditions and the tunnel is dug in very costophobic surroundings. And there's this constant pressure to go faster. And the radiation down there is lower than on the roof, but that doesn't mean it's safe.
52:36Yeah. So they're breathing in radioactive dust. But the worst, the actual worst job is the roof cruise. And they do this really well in the documentaries because they just have one unbroken take. So you have an idea of the length of time they're up there for. Yeah. So there's all this debris on the roof around Reactor 4, which is the actual graphite, the actual core is on the roof, right? So this has to be removed before you can actually contain the disaster. Yeah. Now, the scientists give the roofs female names, like Masha, Katya, and Nina, which is a bit like when they give, it's like storms are always named after women, aren't they?
53:15Right. Is it to make the men more likely to do the job? No, I think it's just because it's like, you know, it's angry and irrational. Okay. so we're watching footage now of yeah so these are the men what do they call these men I've forgotten what the nickname for these men are but they are on the roof and they're only allowed to be on there for like a minute and they're basically like they're in shit fancy dress yeah they're wearing lead aprons yeah they initially tried these West German robots was it East German the East German robots I guess yeah that could just flick them where they were trying to sort of like like bomb clearing yeah they're trying to get the graphite off I think the radiation disrupted them yeah so they all broke yeah Masha was the most dangerous roof if you were standing on Masha for 40 seconds that could be enough to kill you yeah going down on Masha yeah it's like Michael Douglas going down on Katharine's Jones so they tried these remote control machines but they failed under radiation and terrain was all streamed yeah they're treated they've been told you're probably going to die or have they been told they're probably going to die they don't know how just how dangerous it is but it's like you have a good chance of dying and they're literally just shifts everyone's up there doing it 30 seconds yeah but the thing is is that very few people actually die in the immediate aftermath are they sort of working like sort of like Greeks but Greeks do that without the radiation right yeah this is a just this is Greek building site we're watching now 30 seconds of work and then break Okay, now please now.
54:53I will die. I will die. I will die.
54:58Any longer than 90 seconds, I die. I will die. Yeah, I can't.
55:05Chernobyl's made Russians Greeks. Which is why it's such a disaster. Yeah. How have you made the hardest people the laziest? So they're wearing this improvised protective kit, a mask. Oh my God, if Chernobyl haven't been Greece, can you imagine? well we thank fuck it happened in russia yeah we would we would not be here yeah thank fuck thank fuck it happened in a country where they have no regard for human life yes yes because we would be fucked in nearly every other country well this is what i meant said last episode is that the flip side of the disaster is they did save the world yeah and if it happened in greece there'd be a bunch of babies born with plastic chairs welded onto their back like turtles so each man is limited to a short run between 40 and 90 seconds before being pulled back so nearly 4 ,000 men do this to get rid of all the graphite on the roof you couldn't get Brits to do this I don't think I just don't know like get 4 ,000 men to just commit suicide like this Japan is the only other country which can do that and it's where the two big ones happen yeah it is it is very creepily ironic that the only two countries where this has happened.
56:13Of the two most prepared for it, culturally. Yeah. Every single member of the cleanup operation gets these radioactive exposures. Now, the short-term ARS, acute radiation sickness, is for those close to the reactor, but longer-term cancer risks and chronic health problems for anyone else. So a lethal dose of radiation is around 400 to 450 rontogens. At Chernobyl, the roof was emitting 20 ,000 rontogens an hour. Close to the core, it was 30 ,000. Sorry, how many died of the 4 ,000? who were doing the shifts? Well, so they think that only... And why don't they do stats? I don't know why they're confused stats.
56:48Because it's Soviet. Could be. But they think that only 38 people were recorded dead in the immediate aftermath. Right. But they think about 9 ,000 or 10 ,000, their cancers were attributed to what happened. But because it's cancer, and everyone gets cancer anyway, it's quite hard to say. Right, yeah. In the core, if you were in the core, you would have had to be there for seconds and then you basically just sort of instant death. So they didn't really have dissimators that could read big enough readings. The workers were sent into places that should have been treated as untouchable. And many liquidators were personnel who just could not refuse the job, even if they wanted to.
57:32What do you mean? Conscripts? Yeah, but they also probably fucking loved it. They loved it. So in a matter of hours, Pripyat is empty and the reactor fort is still badly damaged and the Soviets have had to issue a response because, you know, fucking West German kids are being aborted. And they're like, fucking, well, don't blame us for that. So we're going to leave this episode here. In the next episode, we will get to the aftermath, the Soviet effort to contain the reactor and the long-term consequences of Chernobyl. Does it ultimately bring down the Soviet Union? And what's it like today? See, then, that episode's already on the Patreon, where for£3 a month, you can join a community of people who...
58:26Terrifyingly like-minded people. Yeah, terrifyingly. It's a marketplace for... Many things. ...memorabilia and ideas. You get it ad-free. You get bonus episodes. we've got a whole a whole fucking sunken xenon pit of bonus content hours of the stuff yeah and it's lethal it is lethal too much if you listen to too many of the Patreon episodes you will end up looking like Michael Douglas you will have to start taking shifts to finish a Patreon episode 4 ,000 of you I can only do 30 seconds at a time yeah if you were to play every Patreon episode at the same time simultaneously it would take you seconds before your face would melt off that's on the Patreon and if not, we'll see you next time for the conclusion of our epic Chernobyl series.
59:10Until then, goodbye. Goodbye.
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Chernobyl (Part Two)
The show for people who like history but don't care what actually happened.
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00:00 - Monsters Inc SWAT Team
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19:18 - Charlie’s Pan
24:03 - Yoghurt Mogging
30:58 - The Bridge Of Death
33:24 - Egg On Your Head
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