Custard’s Last Stand | The Battle of Little Big Horn (Part 3/4)

13 Apr 2026 · 58 min · 26 chapters

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In short

Part 3 (of 4) of “Film vs History” covering the Battle of the Little Bighorn (1876), focusing on how U.S. forces under Custer were outnumbered, miscoordinated, and ultimately destroyed.

Guests

The episode features hosts/regulars only—no named external guests appear in the transcript. “Ratio Gould” is mentioned as a co-host/participant. The hosts also reference “Stephen Bartlett” as a comedic comparison, not as a guest.

Key claims

General Sheridan’s scorched-earth campaign and reservation policy trapped nomadic Lakota/Cheyenne. Custer’s plan to encircle the village failed because he split forces, lacked support, and attacked while exhausted. Reno’s initial assault faltered when he ordered a firing-line retreat, abandoning wounded men. Benteen and Reno did not effectively reinforce Custer. Custer’s “last stand” details are uncertain because all his men were killed; accounts suggest multiple short stands and chaotic close combat.

Notable examples

Crow scouts spotting the encampment; the “dying dance” with named participants; Crazy Horse’s tactics; Isaiah/“Isaiah Denton” (a Black soldier) being killed and mutilated; the “infamous note” to Benteen (“Come on… big village… bring packs”).

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Chapters

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Exciting News and Sketch Show

0:30 to 1:10

A brief announcement about a new sketch show and its potential future.

Setting the Scene: Native American Context

1:40 to 3:00

Discussion about the cultural context and perspectives on Native Americans.

“But I think once you realise you can be camp culturally, it spreads like wildfire.”

Historical Background of Custer and His Rivals

3:00 to 4:50

Overview of General Custer's background and his adversaries in the battle.

“Was Sheridan a big player in the Civil War?”

The Lead-Up to the Battle

4:50 to 8:00

Exploration of the events leading up to the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

“BDSM Morris dancing is what they're doing.”

The Gathering of Native Americans

8:00 to 10:00

Description of the largest gathering of Native Americans and their cultural practices.

“And so there are these three columns, very similar to the Zulu campaign under Chelmsford.”

The Battle of the Rosebud

10:00 to 12:00

Detailing the events of the Battle of the Rosebud and its implications.

“Now, the Rosebud River, what is it, Charlie?”

Custer's Ambitions and Recklessness

12:00 to 12:43

Examination of Custer's strategy and the risks he took in the battle.

“So they were meant to all meet up, these forces, to encircle what they think is a big encampment of Indians.”

Custer's Ambitions and Recklessness

12:45 to 14:03

Examination of Custer's strategy and the risks he took in the battle.

“Guys, look, you've heard it from us before.”

Custer's Leadership and Tactics

15:29 to 19:01

Discussing Custer's methods and his troops' behavior during the campaign.

“Custard liked to leave troops behind if he didn't think it was beneficial to save them.”

The March to Little Bighorn

19:05 to 23:45

Detailing the march of Custer's troops and their strategies leading to the battle.

“So 22nd of June, Terry detaches from Custard and the 7th Cavalry create a flank against the Americans.”
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Custer's Overconfidence and Consequences

23:46 to 28:00

Exploring Custer's overconfidence and the dire consequences of his decisions.

“How's anyone doing the time or date at that point?”

Custer's Riddles and Mixed Races

28:00 to 29:40

Discussion about the peculiar communication style of General Custer and his mixed race portrayal.

“they were you know they were not as problematic as everyone else they were they were not politically correct people no to be fair we didn't see what this guy looked like yes we didn't I think we'd say mixed race now.”

The Sioux's Dying Dance

29:40 to 31:30

Exploration of the Sioux's suicide pact and the ceremony preceding the battle.

“And he has got maybe 600 men, but he divides that further.”

Custer's Tactical Errors

31:30 to 32:48

A deep dive into Custer's flawed battle plan and his decision-making process.

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Custer's Tactical Errors

32:52 to 33:10

A deep dive into Custer's flawed battle plan and his decision-making process.

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The Start of the Battle

33:40 to 35:00

Details about the initial attack by Reno's company and the chaos that ensued.

“25th of June, 1876, Reno's company attacks first.”

Panic and Retreat

35:00 to 36:40

Analyzing Reno's panic and the retreat of U.S. soldiers during the battle.

“We're not, you know, we're not military men.”

Crazy Horse's Ritual

36:40 to 38:20

A look into Crazy Horse's actions during the battle and their implication.

Isaiah Dorman's Fate

38:20 to 40:00

The story of Isaiah Dorman, the only Black soldier in the battle and his gruesome fate.

“no he's he's fucked he's completely fucked head caved in this is where the guy gets scalped but he's still alive and he's going argh And then the young kid who's doing it gets so annoyed that he shoots him.”

Custer's Last Stand

40:00 to 42:00

Discussion about the conclusion of Custer's last stand and its uncertain outcomes.

“So what he needs is he needs ammunition because he's like, there's loads of them.”

Custer's Last Stand: The Chaos of Battle

42:00 to 44:10

Explore the details and chaos surrounding Custer's final moments in battle.

“I just don't know how, with them telling the story.”

Analysis of Custer's Death

44:10 to 47:10

Delve into theories about how Custer died and the aftermath of the battle.

“he said that they dramatically altered the fight.”

Cultural Reflections on Custer's Legacy

47:10 to 49:10

Discuss the cultural implications of Custer's actions and the battle's legacy.

The Aftermath and Historical Interpretation

49:10 to 54:59

Examine the outcomes of the battle and how history interprets these events.

“career and then but you know it's tough at the top isn't it yeah it's like when you found rob William's killed himself.”

Reflections on the Battle of Little Bighorn

56:02 to 56:44

Explore the implications and outcomes of the Battle of Little Bighorn.

Upcoming Episodes and Future Topics

57:19 to 57:54

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Transcript

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1:23welcome back to film versus history beside me to ratio gould he's done it he's finally done it He's been worn down and he's gone for a big Native American. Hello. This is part three. A jolly one. Ho. Ho. What are you looking at? Ho. Gay Native American. Ho. Ho. Yeah. That's true. They're not particularly camp people. Yeah. But I think once you realise you can be camp culturally, it spreads like wildfire. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Drag, drag, drag queens reading to kids. I think people, when you're organised society, you don't have fellows actually really camp. and then you see one guy in denim cut-offs and you're like, well, we can do that.

2:02Hi! I want to dress like a baby too. Hi! But I suppose what would a gay Native Americans would be called like sitting on cock. Sitting balls. Sitting balls. Yeah. Crazy horse cock. We're talking about the Battle of the Little Bighorn. This is our series on the American Indian Wars. It's just because our listeners are very thick. India is not involved. No. There's not a huge server of horny Indians. No, this is not the battle. You're commenting under an AI image of a 21-year-old. It's not the battle of little big bobs. Little big horny. That's what the battle we're fighting currently is the battle of little big horny Indians.

2:43It's more of a virtual war, digital war. Anyway, this is part three where we're going to talk about the actual battle itself. So we've introduced Custer and his sort of rivals, Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse. now Custer is on the lookout with his 7th Cavalry for these Injuns Injuns that's nice, that's real Kenya stuff I think it's better I think it's better than called a Minion my old headmaster in my school was called Sinjun Parker Sinjun Parker so in March 1876, General Sheridan had forced the Lakota and the Cheyenne onto a Great Sioux reservation. Was Sheridan a big player in the Civil War? Yes.

3:32Is he the scorched earth guy? I think they're all quite scorched earth. Yeah, but he invented scorched earth. Oh, really? I believe. Charlie, can you just Google, did General Sheridan invent scorched earth? But I'm really in the weeds when it comes to American history. Partly because I'm quite stubborn because I think Americans expect you to know their history and I kind of refuse to learn it out of spite. Yeah, yeah. Like even, I was speaking to American comics and they thought we'd know about the Boston Tea Party. It's like, you're one of the 200 countries that's claimed independence from us.

3:59Yeah. What makes you... So special. Yeah. He did not invent it, but he's famous for brutally implementing it during the American Civil War. Yeah, that's pretty good. Fair enough. Now, the reservation, as we'd said, that's basically centre parks. We're forcing the American Indians onto centre parks and they don't want to go because they feel trapped because they're nomadic people. Yeah, gypsies. They are gypsies. They're Indian gypsies. i'll fuck you i'll fuck your mother yeah big indian yeah big indian tyson and john fury so they are now the little bighorn is in montana is it yeah it's in montana modern day montana beautiful the little bighorn is a big is a river yeah this is sort of the the don't you sometimes feel like the american landscapes wasted on the americans oh so much of the country is wasted on i mean it's some of the most beautiful places florida is they've earned florida i think we can say but yeah this is some of the most amazing landscapes in the entire world i know and it's just you're right yeah and imagine it just roaming joe rogan hunting elk roaming with bison yeah hordes of bison and now there's like one percent of the population in like 100 years left yeah of the bison the americans are on the hunt for the shoe now uh crazy horse and sitting bull uh and their mates sits on cock and um big horny gay guy they're all in a big village and little horny gay guy of course um and rattling grumpy blanket woman and fit woman never shuts a fucking map old trap bitch yep and how old the pedophile um they're all they're all in a big village the biggest gathering of Indians supposedly ever because they're scattering around normally but they're like sort of portable Glastonbury right?

5:57yes it's like Glastonbury if you were just constantly moving yeah gypsy Glastonbury so they're at this big festival now to recap Sitting Bull had done the Sundance Festival he had not made an independent film he had been he'd gorged himself he put bits of his flesh out it's like Morris dancing but with kind of if it was done by that German guy who brought it to Eastern people. BDSM Morris dancing is what they're doing. He had a vision that he would win a great victory against US soldiers. Custer and the 7th Cavalry have discovered gold in the Black Hills, the hills of colour and they're forcing the Native Americans onto reservations.

6:35Custer thinks he knows how to beat the Indians because of the Washita massacre which we talked about in the first episode. You want to get the women and children hostage and surround them and then they'll give up, basically. That's the play. Sheridan is in charge of the campaign to find all the engines. And in March, he sets out Colonel John Gibbon from Fort Ellis with 450 men. Then in May, General Terry, who is a bit of a, he's sort of an old... Chewed up. He's a geyser. He's not really a geyser. Oh, Terry. Yeah, he's not Terry. It's John Terry. He's not John Terry. He's not parking in disabled bays and just taking the fine because he's that rich.

7:17I mean, that's aspiration, isn't it? I think that's new money class. There's like a level of like, you know, you're innovating in a way. This should become old money. I respect that, actually. Like, you're not classy. You're new money. You're a footballer. But you're, you know, it gives me hope that you can learn class. Because that is the right idea. You've got the entitlement down to a T. No, I'm going to park there. Fuck it. I'll just take a park. It's an expensive parking spot. What's the fine? do you know roughly well if you pay it in um i i'm i've never parked i've never been fined parking at stable bay i'm going off any other speeding um ticket but if you pay it within 14 days it's 80 pounds and i think if you don't it's 160 200 so it's slightly closer to the supermarket and he'll pay 80 quid to save like five minutes yeah i like that uh so terry and custer have led about 900 men out of fort lincoln dakota uh and then general crook and a thousand men have left Fort Fatiman in Wyoming.

8:15And so there are these three columns, very similar to the Zulu campaign under Chelmsford. Three columns looking for the natives. And it's about the same time, right? When was Zulu? Rourke's Drift is 1879. You're right, we should place this. 1876. So it's before Rourke's Drift. Just before Rourke's Drift. And it is after 300. This is Sparta. Lovely placing. A good what's that? 2 ,000 years. Yeah. When's Sparta? 300 BC? When's Thermopylae? When's the Battle of Thermopylae? Monopoly. Battle of Monopoly. It comes up right. You got it. You got it. Fuck me. Charlie, you really have trained AI mode. 480 BC.

8:55You Googled Battle of Monopoly and it's come up with the Battle of Thermopylae 480 BC. Wow. Charlie, I've said it before. You are single-handedly making AI thicker. It's the fight against AI. Yeah, you really are. You're holding on. You're a foot soldier against AI's dominance. So 480 BC to 1879. If Charlie was, if the Terminator films were set in like the future where Charlie's in the present, the Terminator would come back like, like really thick. And there's a crowd in the motorcycle. That's Arnold Schwarzenegger, if he's learned from Charlie. So 17th of June, 1876, the Battle of the Rosebud.

9:37Ladies, we're getting into some 19th century military history. Pack a spare pair of pants. If you've left the house, go back in and get some spare panties. Deep moisturiser. Deep moisturiser loins. They will get chapped. Okay. This is military history. This is shed history. Okay. To be enjoyed alone. So the Battle of the Rosebud. Now, the Rosebud River, what is it, Charlie? Isn't Rosebud the sleeper agent thing where you can wake up a spy? No, that's... Are you talking about the Manchurian candidate? I think you're getting confused with Citizen Kane and the Manchurian candidate. Rosebud. Citizen Kane, there's a...

10:17He keeps saying Rosebud, but it's like a... So it has nothing to do with this? No, but it's around the time. It's the same word. No, it's not around the time. It's the same word. Okay. You've recognised the word. Thank you. Yeah, same word. But again, I don't think we can... You have to not... But cheat code on Sims, if you want to get money, was Rosebud in Sims 1, I think. yeah within semicolon semicolon yeah so so it's the long road to Sims I suppose it's the long road it is before Sims did you ever play Sims yes a lot because you have do you have an older sister or a younger sister younger sister because I got an older sister so a lot of that I was getting a lot of chick shit I was original Sims Sims house party yeah yeah were you making them do wahoo yeah wahoo I was putting them in the pool then deleting the stairs and just watching them just prang out yeah fast forward to the grim reaper comes they're pissing and shitting everywhere yeah it's brilliant but what i'd do is you get like like eight you got eight 19 year olds or eight teenagers right i don't think okay and one adult you make ugly as possible yeah because who gives a fuck because you have to have one adult there and then you kill him and then it's just fucking we're all just hanging out right i'm fucking 14 at the time so don't give me that look so you're making like sims epstein island expansion well if the kids run the asylum you know where it's pgl parents get lost oh what's your sister like charlotte

11:36yeah we get on she's great she's nice yeah have you met her yeah I've met her a couple times I haven't met her it's very nice no no you're not allowed to meet her no need to wear a Hannibal Lecter mask before you come anywhere near my family

11:50US troops led by Crook are hit by a surprise attack from the Lakota and the Cheyenne led by Crazy Horse they killed 28 men wounded about 50 because of this Crook retreats and cannot meet Custer as they had planned at Little Bighorn. So they were meant to all meet up, these forces, to encircle what they think is a big encampment of Indians. But they don't know how big it is. They don't know how big it is. So Custer is underprepared and he's ill-supported. Okay, he's not got the forces. Terry and Custer are divided. It's Wayne Bridge and John Terry. It is Wayne Bridge and John Terry over Custer's...

12:26I can't even call him Custard then. Colonel Mustard. Colonel Mustard. Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with a Tomahawk. They're divided because General Custard is obviously, he's reckless. Yeah, he's reckless, of course. He's getting another dollop of custard every time. This episode of Finverse History is brought to you by Surfshark. Guys, look, you've heard it from us before. Yeah. No homo. No homo. I love Surfshark. Yeah, that's fair enough. He said it. He said no homo. No homo, I'm gay. No homo, I want to go down on Surfshark because public Wi-Fi is dangerous. They're like the public toilets of the digital world.

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15:55They have a babushka doll of suitcases. But he's very vain as well, so he probably does a little. Well, yeah, he's designing his own uniform. He's got big, long hair, which is not regulation. So he keeps going hunting. And that's his biggest, the thing you most hate most about him. Yes. Non-regulation haircut. Non-regulation haircut. It's a fucking disgrace. That's his biggest crime for mine. So they discover a dead American soldier at like a native camp. that they've uncovered. And so what they do is they find a Native American burial ground and they desecrate it, which is the one thing you're not meant to do.

16:24I mean, that's the start of a film, right? Yeah. You don't desecrate those because it's all cursed. Charlie, can you Google why you're not meant to desecrate a Native... Like, you get cursed, don't you? I think that's what Charlie probably desecrated a Native American burial site. That's why he's like this. Yes, that would make sense. You know, because, because, like, Hindus, for example, are on Instagram commenting, send bobs. Yes. it's ruined the mystique of their religion a bit because there's so many of them around i've got eight arms to feel all your tits with yeah exactly but if they'd if they'd been tragically wiped out then we would it'd be a lot more like romanticized you know bob's moving in the air um yeah no so you've googled why shouldn't you desecrate a native american graveyard and because you've trained this ai it's telling you as if you're at a native american graveyard looking to looking to shit on it's going okay here are the reasons why you should not do that uh legal protections historical injustice and trauma i mean what's spooky like what is going to curse you is it what's the curse stuff could you what what if you is there a way of confusing the the kind of native american ghosts by like taking a shit on the graveyard but like thanking them loads and like kind of crying being like i thank you so much for this and then like you're doing step overs You're sort of like you're fucking ankle breakers to the Native American.

17:40You're thanking them you're dropping fivers but you're also dropping fivers. So you're pooing and leaving money. I think the Native American ghosts don't really see and hitting yourself in the head like you're just like doing all sorts. But Native Americans don't famously the money's not really like a five pound note with a quaint tender. You're leaving like bowls of like fruit and like porridge. Fruit bowls. Fruit baskets. Bacon. I think the fruit baskets that does seem quite respectful. I think that seems even more racist. What? Sorry, pooing on another cultural's graveyard but leaving them with fruit baskets if that's going to offset the fact you're shitting on them.

18:11No, but you're thanking them as well. For taking your shit. It's like you're paying for the right to shit. It's like you're going to a brothel. It's John Terry parking in a disabled bay and just taking the fine is what it is. I'm desperate to do this. I'll take whatever comes. Whatever. It's just an expensive parking. Yeah, I need a poo. So this is just an expensive poo, I guess. I'll just get a fruit basket in. Fuck it. But it wasn't General Terry. It's General Custer, right? Terry's not doing this. No. No, this is Custer. Anyway, but Custer's men desecrate a native burial ground. Which, look, when we're looking for what happens, I don't know if it's pooing.

18:45Or what? I don't know. Just going, fuck up. Wanker. Oh, it's Wigan. I'm buried and dead. I'm stupid. I don't know how you desecrate it if you don't poo, I guess is the question. Custer's brothers. Spitting and coming. Spitting and coming. Custer's brothers. And we haven't really talked about his brothers, but they're around for the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. they're putting their dicks in things they're shagging about like you don't we haven't really the story doesn't really tell much about them no but they do just seem to like impregnate women along the way yeah well the boys they're the boys it's a boys trip yeah yeah and also we should be said that the rest of history did this story in 11 episodes and we're doing it in four because we are more concise than we are somehow we cut the fat out yeah they're just warbling and they're getting distracted and they're talking about things that aren't relevant yeah exactly anyway so we're talking about John Terry and General Custard now Custard is particularly disliked by his other two of his other what are they called commanders Major Marcus Reno and Captain Frederick Bentine Bentine's a sourpuss right we met Bentine he was a sourpuss who he'd been with him at Washita and Reno is this he really comes off badly he's an absolute waste of skin this guy okay why because he completely panics when they actually We're going to get to the fighting.

20:03So 22nd of June, Terry detaches from Custard and the 7th Cavalry create a flank against the Americans. So Custard is meant to approach the natives from the east and the south. Terry and Gibbon take the north to block anyone from fleeing the attacks and the troops are split up along the tongue of the Little Bighorn River. Okay, ladies, moisturize your loins. So the idea is to enclose the tribes so they can't escape. This is what they did at Washita. It's worked before. The 24th of June, the Crow Scouts, now that's a tribe, that's not birds. They're working for Custer and they spot signs of a tribal encampment by the little big one.

20:39So the Crow working similar to the Mashika, or is it the other way, right? The Tesh, no, the Tesh, the... Fucking what's they called? The Axolotls, I don't fucking know what they're called. Yeah, that lot. The Aztec ones. Yeah. The Tashkallans. Tashkallans, yeah. Divide and conquer. Did you, I found out, did you know that Qashqai, the word Qashqai is an Iranian ethnicity? Is it? Yeah. cash kai as in as in the car i drive really yeah and how do you feel now do you drive it into a fucking canal in protest yeah yeah i feel weird about it where's the is it not a japanese i thought that is it an iranian car company no no nissan nissan is japanese but the word cash kai the model of the car is named after an iranian tribe oh right the cash kai the cash kai can we see what the cash guys look like not the car i know i know the cash guy tried you know what we were just talking about yeah um well they don't like the car that's for sure yeah right interesting what did you say little indian fellas i said here you go fellas oh right i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know little indian fellas um all right yeah this is them why have they called the car after that then that's what we were literally just talking about the last nomads around i guess because they're nomadic people in the Qashqai you're a nomad you're like an Iranian nomad you're sort of just travelling from place to place drifting in and out I tell you what if they're anything like my Qashqai those people are the dirtiest people in the world I've been to your Qashqai yeah my Qashqai is a disgrace I've been bundled in with three other people into your Qashqai it's bad it's really bad these people have mould in their feet someone's just got a whole pack of biscuits my son has done that my son has got a pack of biscuits and just slingshot it and repeatedly hit it against the back seat and then just emptied and just cream cheese sandwiches and you just slap them on the side.

22:29It is an experiment. It's a social experiment, my car. It's a biological warfare. So these tribe must be the stinkiest people on the planet if they're anything like my cash guy. I saw a very funny reel. Uh-oh. Yeah, very funny. Of an F-15. Have you seen this? Of an F-15 being chased by a guy on a magic carpet with an AK. No, I didn't see that. It's great stuff. Iranian air force. Anyway. Oh good. I love my Instagram. I really love it. Was that a solo laugh out loud moment? Yeah. On the train last night. On the train last night. I did a charity gig and then I had some me time on the train home watching racist reels.

23:10All right. Just offsetting my carbon footprint. But you're being racist on stage and then watching your racist reels. You know, it's kind of seamless. But I was being racist on stage and not being paid for it. Yeah. Right. The Crow Scouts find a tribal encampment by Little Bighorn. Now, this is important because Custer's troops have been marching for fucking ages. Right. They march all through the night. It's a night, man. They march all through the night, and the plan was they'd sleep all day. Party all night. Party all night. They'd sleep all day. Sleep all day. And then it would be the 26th of June, just as dawn, and they'd do a dawn raid.

23:47How do we know that? What? How do we know it was the 26th of June? How's anyone doing the time or date at that point? It's only 1876. I don't know what day of the week it is. It's not that long ago. Yeah. But you can't believe it if someone knows the date. It's not that long ago at all. When is it then? Right, Charlie. 1876. This is going to blow your head. At Christmas, I went to see my nan, my old Scottish nan, raggedy bag woman or whatever the Native Americans would have called her. Raggedy woman who won't die. Right? Right? She's 97. and so I was in that room with my kids, me, my uncle and her, four generations in one room and I was the second youngest.

24:26If I'd been the youngest, I would have been in the room with someone who had fought at the Somme in World War I, right? That's how close this history is. If you'd have been the youngest. So my kids were the youngest in that room. I do think you took some leaps there trying to explain that. That wasn't going to land. If you'd have been the youngest, you'd have been your kid. I think you went right back the wrong way. Do you know what I'm saying? I was just thinking that's Charlie do you not find that amazing though yeah that's pretty amazing he doesn't what do you mean as in I was there's four generations in one room okay yeah and I'm the second youngest generation if I've been the youngest generation as in there'd been a generation above that if you'd move the generations down basically his granny's mum fought in the song no no no no my granny's father-in-law fought in the song my granny's mum did not fight in the Somme.

25:18If you had a... She was a lesbian. My granny's mum was too busy doing blackface in Blackpool. Where did she get the mud from? Not the Somme. That, I mean, of all blackfaces to do, using it with hallowed turf, is surely... Yeah, but I mean, it's also the perfect crime. What, so you go, hang on, I'm quite offended by that. This is actually the mud from the Somme. Oh, so it's a sign of respect. No, no, it's during the Somme. It's a sign of respect, is it? During the Somme, no one's calling you problematic for putting mud on your face. No. You know. I guess so. You can really hide in there. There's a lot of other stuff going on.

25:46Yeah, but if you come back and you're trying to get away with blackface by saying it's actually like a more poignant poppy, I blacked up with the mud of the song. Poopy. Yeah. It's kind of poopy. Do you understand what I'm saying though? No, I don't care. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But you've stopped this now. You've stopped the podcast. It doesn't matter, man. Basically, it's not that long ago. If there'd been one older... An older generation would have been around at the same time as Raging Bull and stuff. Not Raging Bull. that's a film in the 80s with Robert De Niro yeah your parents were around for Raging Bull Sitting Bull Sitting Bull would have been around when your granny's granny was around yeah yeah definitely definitely but I know that already some of these people that we're talking about lived till the end of the Second World War right yeah this is important we're into military history okay women have left the house and they haven't packed spare pants okay this is dangerous for our listeners he wants to rest troops all they're going to march through the night they're going to have a big sleep in the day and then they're going to attack at dawn in the morning the 26th of june right however when the scouts say that the native warriors have uh left custer is worried that he's not going to get his big victory that's all it's about because he wants a big victory and bear in mind this is the 26th of june 1876 it is but 10 days before the big centenary of the american nation And so he wants to just get over the lines that he can come through as a massive hero.

27:14He can be lauded at the big centenary and then he can launch a political career and he can get on the after dinner circuit. That's what he wants to do. Right. It's like Boris Johnson in that regard. Yeah. It's all stepping stones for the after dinner. Sure. What he does is he goes, fuck it. I know we've just marched through the night. Like, I don't know how many miles. A lot. A lot. They've done a tough mudder. Right. With no mud. Right. And he goes, fuck it. We're just going to do it live. Right. And so they're knackered. Yeah. and on the morning the 25th he goes let's just attack so the scouts are like no no no no I don't know how they sound there's one of the crow scouts is called half yellow face which is listen excuse me come on I don't know why even for the time I don't know why you've named yourself that you know the Native Americans we shouldn't romanticise them no they were they were you know they were not as problematic as everyone else they were they were not politically correct people no to be fair we didn't see what this guy looked like yes we didn't I think we'd say mixed race now.

28:11He could have a lemon-coloured bottom half of his face. Yes. And then it would be like, well, maybe that's fine. So half yellow face, again, this is not my terminology. Half yellow face tells General Custard, that is my terminology, you and I are going home today by a road we do not know. Can you stop speaking in riddles, mate? Custard's like, oh, what, do you mean the M6? Yeah. I'd know that road. Why do they all speak like Yoda? Do you know what I mean? Well, they're Native Americans. Right, fair enough. I guess Yoda's sort of based on Native Americans. Yeah, totally. Totally. Meanwhile, at the encampment, a big village, 7 ,000 Indians.

28:45Yeah. The Sioux boys take a suicide pact because this is, you know, teenagers are always doing this. It doesn't matter what point in history. Yeah, they're listening to My Chemical Romance. They're fueled by a division. They are. US defeat. And during a ceremony, they dance and they pledge to fight until the death. It's called a dying dance. And you've got people like called Spotted Elk and Crooked Nose. who said everyone gathered to sing as the boys dance. Four of the boys were called Little Whirlwing, Cut Belly, Closed Hand and Noisy Walking. Noisy Walking. Do you know what Noisy Walking is?

29:20Does he fart as he walks? We can't know. They all get killed at the battle the next day. So I guess if you're doing a dying dance I suppose that's brilliant. Job done. It's like a rain dance isn't it? They didn't know Custer was going to attack but they were suspicious after Rosebud. What was the Rosebud thing again? That was, I don't know because Charlie started talking about fucking Sims. After Rosebud. rosebug was the first that was the first that was an ambush right right right right right so let's get to the let's get to custer's plan so custer is on a hill and he he can't see how big the village is crucially or does he see how big the village is when he gets up on the hill i thought where he where he is i think he then sees yeah it's way bigger than i thought it was when he's yeah but yeah but as in the before he gets onto the hill maybe yeah he doesn't know there's about 8 ,000 people with about 2 ,000 warriors, right?

30:05And he has got maybe 600 men, but he divides that further. He's got 600 men, and he thinks, again, like he did at Washita, if you occupy the village, hold the elderly women, children hostage, everyone will surrender. So, what does he do? Instead of going to bed... That wouldn't work on you, would it? I'd be like, well, brilliant. I'm off then. Win-win. Keep him. Keep him. You're fine. Absolutely fine. you freed me from my own prison suddenly i'm the hostage that's freed now um so he should be waiting for backup from crook or gibbon or terry or whoever the fuck they're up there called yeah but he doesn't so custer splits his force into four segments right a pack train of supplies and ammunition three companies led by reno who's the absolute disgrace wet bag right they're going to attack from the south that's about 140 men three companies he's a wet bag he's a wet bag yeah Captain Benteen goes southwest to find natives with 125 men and then five companies led by Custer which is 210 men are going to charge from the north right he loves to charge he loves to charge and this is his big mistake he splits the forces right he's already outnumbered but he's split them even further because he's a lot of hubris right because he's worked before he feels like he's kind of invincible but he's also thinking there's no way we're not going to win yeah they haven't slept a mature man would have gone to bed you know it was charlie yesterday starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer for millions of businesses that tool is shopify shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10 percent of all e-commerce in the U.S.

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33:22Get a Big Mac meal only at McDonald's. Price and participation may vary. Promotion pricing may be lower than real pricing. Hey, go to bed. You know, you should... There's a confidence to a man who hasn't slept. Sleep's always the main thing, and, you know, you shouldn't exchange stuff for sleep. That's what they all say. All those boring cunts on Instagram. So, on 25th of June, this is the battle, 25th of June, 1876, Reno's company attacks first. They take the settlement by surprise. They charge, and then they start... Supplies! Not supplies. Reno is not half yellow-faced. He's full whiteface.

33:57So the warriors quickly mobilize all the Indians and they launch a counterattack. And then Reno, rather than like charging into the village to keep shooting, he orders everyone to dismount and sets up like a firing line. Okay, because his bomb's gone. Because his bomb has collapsed. Yeah, he's Neville Chamberlain in the field. He is pissed and he doesn't really know what he's doing. And so this causes the offensive to falter because suddenly they're stationary and allow all the momentum to the Native Americans to charge them. I also think the reinforcements that are coming are having like a holiday.

34:31They're fishing and they're going on hikes and stuff because they're slowly meant to be coming up, but they haven't met up with the forces because Custer's so far ahead. They're literally just having like... Well, Americans don't go for walks, do they? They go on a hike. Yeah, so they all just... They drive to a desert and then walk around a bit. They're always going camping. So all momentum is immediately lost. And people say that if he had kept charging into the village, it would have caused such panic that maybe, you know, the outcome would have been different. Probably. Yeah. I don't know.

35:01Anyway. Yeah. I mean, who knows? We're not, you know, we're not military men. So Sitting Bull is trying to sue for peace and sends a messenger to meet Reno. But then they get shot, shot, wounded. And his favorite horse gets killed. So he goes, right. Well, you fuck. Right. That's not all right, actually. and then reno had an indian scout called bloody knife uh and he gets shot bloody knife what where's me bloody knife he gets shot in the head and his head explodes right uh all over all over reno's face and then reno panics come shot

35:40staring at the computer like he's doing work come shot so is that what reno said is it as as so his scouts get his head explodes all over reno's face and then reno goes where's my bloody knife gone cum shot cum shot cum shots pops up yes sir okay sorry cum shots another scout yeah um yeah where's my bloody knife gone cum shot come here uh so he's northern marcus reno yeah right so he then completely like panics and he tells his men to like get back on the horses then he says get back off and he says get back on again right he's drinking from his hip flask right and get back on the horse yeah get back on the horse back on the wagon off the wagon yeah anyway he's he's completely lost it his bum has completely fallen out he's covered in his scouts brains cum shots nowhere to be seen um and then he's struggling with his men's mental health his men's mental health has collapsed and at this point what he needs to do is he needs to take himself off to a quiet corner listen to a stephen bartlett podcast and compose himself he needs to take himself off and record a stephen bartlett podcast he's the guest on stephen bartlett podcast yeah i work through it live and then come back yeah exactly a two-hour conversation with stephen just to unpack what's just happened anyway he doesn't do that instead he orders a retreat abandoning wounded soldiers on the battlefield and suddenly all the impetus goes to the indians who's then see this like a buffalo hunt and they just carry on so they shoot u.s soldiers at point blank range they pull them off horses they club them to death yeah uh meanwhile crazy horse crazy horses is like this is all going on and he's like he's doing some kind of ritual and everyone's like mate it's started and he's like i'd be doing that if to avoid the fighting because it'd look like I'm doing like important stuff yeah but you're on the American side you're in Cadbury going I'm like I want people to be like I'll have like one of my like you know lesser than saying like let him cook trust me he's working on something how do you spot a Native American spy it's an American and if we won I'd be like well see what happened I didn't get him off the door that's a very good way of getting out of the fight actually just sound there going it's embarrassing if you get shot though I guess yeah so crazy crazy was just going whatever yeah meanwhile so then eventually he weaves like long stems of grass into his hair lads I mean he's making daisy chains come on come on come on get to the bit anyway we need to talk about a story of the only black guy who fought for the Americans called Isaiah Denton I want to say anyway he gets he gets knocked off his horse and is and breaks his leg and then Indians come over to him and they stab him a lot and then they fucking carve a square of his skin off and dry it out in the sun and make like a leather just like a bit of leather and then like carry it around and it's like Isaiah Dorman that's his name does he survive?

38:53no he's he's fucked he's completely fucked head caved in this is where the guy gets scalped but he's still alive and he's going argh And then the young kid who's doing it gets so annoyed that he shoots him. Really? He shoots his face off. Because he's so loud. The guy's like, he cringes him out. He's like, do you mind? I'm trying to scalp you. So he shoots him and then he can carry on scalping him. I'd hate to be scalped. It's really, it's gnarly this stuff and it's not that long ago. Yeah. I mean, I feel very lucky that we're not alive then. Yeah. After retreating across the river, drunk Reno who's covered it in cum shot in bloody knives bloody knives cum shot right he meets up with Benteen and the pair discuss what to do next and they get this infamous note from Custer who's on the other side of the river or somewhere I never really understand the topography so there's a river that goes like this little big horns here and there's other people there so it's just brilliant you tell me I smashed it there's a river there if you're listening just I don't know imagine a big one river imagine imagine the thames and what custer's at blackfriars and the the village is in what south bank and then reno's i don't know um fucking charing cross yeah i don't know who cares anyway um he gets a note from custer it says bentine come on big village be quick bring packs ps bring packs that's like that that ape when he's learning just you know me oranges oranges eat now yeah you You know, Nim Chimpski.

40:29So what he needs is he needs ammunition because he's like, there's loads of them. It's like a crapshoot. We're going to have a great turkey shoot or whatever. So the pair ignore the order though, or rather the order's unclear. Is it saying, come on, big village? Or is it saying, bring ammunition? Come on the big village. Don't come on the village. Guys, let's wank on the village. Cumshot's dead. We've got to just in the village. So what they do is they ignore the first part of the order and they maintain their positions on the hill and they're waiting for the ammunition to arrive, which is like on mules and donkeys and it's way far away.

41:01So the communications, I guess they don't have any sort of radio or anything. No, but they have an Italian man who doesn't speak English. Oh, that's good. That'll do. Yeah, that's great. It's not a radio. What does Custer want? He's like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. He's so fucking hot, man. I'm so horny. He's so horny and hot. Please. Mama. I'm so horny. Who am I meant to kiss with no mama around? I need to kiss someone on mouth. So anyway, they hear. They got Gino De Campo, basically. Gino De Campo. is causing havoc in between the lines. He is not a good adjutant. No. They can hear heavy gunfire coming from Custer's position in the north.

41:36Now, no one knows what happens over there. Right, but we're telling the story from Reno's side. Yeah. So at around 5 p.m., Captain Weir moves out from the defensive position to contact Custer. Right. So then that's where he sees 18 ,000 lodges. That's when he sees how big the fucking village is. so uh through a spyglass which is like an old telescope he sees warriors killing wounded soldiers and shooting dead bodies where custer should have been right so then bentin and reno begin to fall back and it's like from what i gather they're they're kind of trying to scramble up this sort of eight foot uh bank yeah away from the river for the last stand and the river's just filling up with bodies and the the native americans are just galloping in and i like but they're firing their guns in the air and yeah so they set up a skirmish line to keep off the warriors until nightfall and then once night fell the troops are able to retreat even further to wait for reinforcement so bentine and reno they get out just about but they fall back but they've so they hold they managed to hold off just about but they've been massacres you know massacres troops so we get to what happened on Custer's infamous last stand and the truth is no one knows because literally everyone that was with him was killed right now obviously there are Native American witnesses but they're compromised yeah Big Sky Big Sky was there lots of grass Big Sky at night Big Sky Knight was there.

43:14Sitting on Cock was there. I just don't know how, with them telling the story. How old is your daughter? Was there, you know. So Red Horse, who was there, he says that Custer made five different stands for about 10 minutes each. And the survivors of each clash came back to Custer and causing command to sort of collapse in on itself. Right. And so it ended with Custer being killed and all his men when they were caught running from the hill towards the river. So this says that in his telling, Custer's running away. Right. And he's being like shot in the back and stuff. From the river to the hill.

43:52From the river to the hill. From the barracks to the bin. So the fighting was so chaotic that no one really was shooting their weapons properly. And it was all hand-to-hand combat. Yeah. So they couldn't like load and aim their weapons. There were the suicide boys, Wolf Tooth, he said that they dramatically altered the fight. Well, he would, wouldn't he? And they began the hand-to-hand combat. And if they hadn't started the close proximity fighting, the American soldiers would have stayed in an organized formation and kept reloading. Like in Zulu where they're doing volley fire, which really fucking fires me up.

44:27It's thought that the Custer's companies had put up a long fight. But the truth is, we don't really know. It could have been completely squashed. And some Native Americans are like, oh yeah we just took 10 minutes they're all fucking dead but uh that's not what the americans want yeah they've mythologized this to fuck yeah and yeah in the way that we have a rork's drift except we actually won rork's drift importantly importantly um so around 40 men are cornered on custer's hill what's now called custer's hill surrounded by hundreds of warriors some try to escape they're killed or they're pulled from their horses and once the warriors make it to the top of hill they kill the last of color uh custer's men and with no backup from reno or bentine the battle of little bighorn is uh ends maybe more general gordon than yeah it is general gordon yeah uh except yeah i suppose in the way that gordon stand yeah gordon could have been saved by wolseley if he'd got there quick enough but uh wasn't yeah and they both have iconic paintings of their last dance yes and reno and bentine uh just sort of were pinned and didn't fucking go and help him uh so we need to now they don't mutilate custer i thought they scalped him i don't think they do i think they don't identify who he is they fuck up his brother right i think maybe they think his brother um is dead is uh mutilated and this thought that maybe it wasn't mutilated because he'd had that relationship with Mona Sitar.

46:06Right. The woman he'd met. Because he's got an Native American side piece. So how does Custer die? He has one gunshot wound in the chest and one to the temple. Some accounts indicate Native American more was stripped and mutilated many of the bodies except Custer's, possibly because he was not recognised or because he'd just cut his long hair. So actually, he'd cut his hair. So this is actually very sad. Samson. Yes, exactly. where he was starting to go bald yeah if you look get photos of him up he it was a pretty pretty awful haircut yeah by the end but i think he had long luscious gold hair and it was starting to retreat yes much like reno yes up his head and i think that you can just see that the power was probably in the hair but now that's i mean that's what people look like nowadays the mullet the mullet and the tash has come back now yeah the the balding mullet it's now in fashion once again and that is yeah that's hackney all over right there yeah it's funny that i just it's always cyclical isn't it yeah history haircuts do you think maybe dreadlocks will come back in for white people i'm sure they will i now i would you ever get dreadlocks no i mean you should hey i think you'd i think it'd be awesome if you didn't change anything about your personality yeah but just committed to dreadlocks yeah but you say this about you want me to be trans with dreadlocks don't you but the same i want you to be exactly exactly the same but trans and with dreadlocks i want you to say all the stuff you're saying oh bloody hell put yourself together yeah but i've got dreadlocks i'm single-handedly making dreadlocks a conservative haircut we've got to stop the votes come on these these hippies these hippies and their squats are ruining our town centers and i've just got i've just got full dreadlocks you're a store Britain candidate for dreadlocks yeah no it'd be interesting it would be interesting yeah undeniably but I think everything is coming you know I think mutton chops will come back at some point I mean they had their moment in the early 2010s I thought do you think yeah during the kind of month from the sun smacking a oh yeah that was all a bit mutton choppy yeah it was a bit mutton choppy waistcoats and all that sort of stuff bollocks yeah he says white bollocks white bollocks reno and bentine are pinned in their defensive positions until the morning of the 26th of june and the native americans they move out of little bighorn before more american troops can arrive john terry arrives and finds reno bentine and the surviving soldiers and they go and survey the battlefield they try to find custer who they think is still alive and then custer is found with the bullet hole in his chest and in his skull uh and his brothers and it's been theorized that the shot to the skull was assisted suicide so it was a mental health thing yeah he went i can't yeah again he needed steven bartler social anxiety yes it was very very sad ghost you never know what someone's going through do you know on the outside yeah he's the general it looks like everything's going so great what he loved he's chasing down a horde of indians he has a great career and then but you know it's tough at the top isn't it yeah it's like when you found rob William's killed himself.

49:15It's like, fuck. Fuck, if he's killing himself. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you've been affected by any of the issues in this episode. You know, Native America's trying to scalp you. Or mental health, you know, whichever. Then just deal with it, actually. Yeah, deal with it. We don't want to hear about it. Fucking grow up. I still imagine you and Dead Redlocks. That would be so great if after an episode of Hollyoaks or whatever, if you've been affected by any of the issues like domestic violence, just fucking leave him, would you? Yeah, just grow up. Just grow up. None of our business. Just punch back.

49:42Who cares? um punch back who cares that's the name of my charity so uh it is believed that custer is either killed early on or in a final stand right so we just we just don't know we can't we can't know but uh well we can listen to the native americans but who fuck it knows what they're saying no one knows what they're saying there's no consistency it's gobbledygook um gobbledygook is another scout who was Little Black Kettle, cum shot, gobbledygook, and bloody knife. Where's my bloody knife? Yeah. Now, Custer's soldiers are found in various arrays of mutilation. Naked. It's sort of performance art.

50:25Yes. Sort of the way it's arranged. It's body horror. Yeah, arranged. Let's deal with this now. This is Red Horse. This is his drawings, which we've got up on screen. And so he's like - Great Warrior, not the best drawer. No. No. now you know our researcher was quite excited when she found this right brilliant primary source and evidence of what's happened and you're zooming it and i don't think he can draw horses which is the the um i mean it's it's sort of what's the story that's being told there they're on retreat yeah horses some people have fallen off their horses loads of horses dead i mean this is stuff like to be honest if i'm being really honest about this this quality of artwork it's not even going on my fridge and my fridge has got some absolute shit on it has it oh so when you're creating your the art in your fridge this doesn't make the cut no so the so the bin in our kitchen is right by our fridge and maybe once a week my son and my daughter will come back and they're like oh daddy look and it's some drawing they've done at nursery right and i'd say maybe nine out of ten times oh great they turn around bin bin they don't realize no there it is but then what what's the occasion are you like oh that is quite good that's pretty fucking good yeah that does it like a house yeah or they've tried to draw like mommy or dad and they've you know and it's colorful and it's clearly if they see yeah they give you a drawing of yourself and you say chuck that in the fucking bin yeah i wonder what psychological damage i'm doing do better don't ever depict me i'm like the prophet muhammad how dare you yeah yeah what if they depict a prophet muhammad that probably Oh, that's on the fridge.

51:55Sorry. My fridge is entirely photos of the Prophet Muhammad, pictures that they've drawn, okay? But they don't know. They don't know. They're ignorant. Anyway, if you're listening, we're currently looking at pictures of the Prophet Muhammad. No, we're not. We're not. We're not. We're shut out. We're not. We're looking at drawings that Red Horse made from the Battle of Little Bighorn. There's, I mean, there's dead bodies. Yeah, and they've all got the same. And he's drawn like red lines. They look like little mermaids. They do look like mermaids. Yeah. He's drawn their blue trousers, but they haven't got any arms.

52:30Now, is that because they've cut their arms off? Yeah, it is. Okay. And they, oh, and the red is the scalps. Oh, do you know what? It looks like Charlie's weekend. I'm getting more into this, actually. I'm getting more, you know, I famously find art quite difficult to appreciate. Yeah. But I'm actually... You've got quite a literal interpretation of the world. I'm a very literal man. You know, I mean what I say. famously but this is yeah I'm I'm getting so he's got three colours he's got black blue and red right and I'm getting a sense yeah I guess the red is all the scalps that come off the heads the sort of arms going away it's more yeah I don't know if there's much of like artistic wider meaning it's trying to yeah lots of people got fucking shot in the head so it's so that's a primary source for the battle which as we say is essentially a toddler's glued some pasta shapes to a bit of cardboard but i guess the fact that he's chopping people's heads off him drawing the head people's heads being chopped off that that kind of adds an element to it as well yeah i suppose so uh and just to reiterate that's because they believe that if you were mutilated the body you were killed in was the body you would spend eternity with so you kind of is it sort of like heaven we filled with lots of stephen hawkins without the chair yeah because they've been so fucked up but also for eternity it would also mean that um fucking what's his name Bill Carradine would be in eternity like what the eternal come yeah yeah he would be that guy who comes every 10 seconds yeah that's Carradine in the afterlife has got a belt around his neck and an orange in his mouth he's like and that's the body you die in is the way you spend eternity do they have kids because what happens when they die and they go meet him dad oh god yeah they're just like oh you know I just want to be reunited with For a limited time, you can get a Big Mac meal for just$8.

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55:41Christ. I just I do think that I just think you can't it's can't be worth it no it might be well who know I guess yeah you're right you know he's a frontiersman the front yes he is he's on a frontier or something yeah frontier of his own neck so uh I think we should probably leave this episode here the battle of little bighorn has been uh it's a massacre yeah little big horny it is it's like a new rapper little big little big horny so the custer is dead uh the native americans have won an astonishing battle uh however it's a bit like when wigan won the fa cup uh where are they now league one yeah uh in our next episode and final episode of this series we will deal with the aftermath the americans have got a bloody nose what do they do when they get a bloody bloody bloody knife where's the bloody knife they they go hard yeah all right uh the next episode is the long road to it's not a feel-good ep afghanistan no it's not again it's like you're playing cowboys and Indians on the floor yeah and uh it turns yeah it turns out it's Germans and Jews yeah it is Germans and Jews um anyway Hitler does come into the story look at that somehow somehow how has he got it in from there Roberto Carlos around the wall how has he done that uh if you'd like to hear that episode now it's already on our patreon uh where for three pounds a month and it is three pounds a month you have to go to the website on a computer then you sign up then you download the apple store and you log in sign up on the website not the app anyway next episode's there and uh we're also doing the history of mormonism that's great fun that is great fun really really really really i mean what on earth they're fucking real thick oh shit real thick oh they're so thick that it's true it turns out apparently anyway sign up to the patreon and if not we'll see you on thursday for the conclusion of our epic american indian series goodbye

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