Doing Ramadan in Greenland | IRA Hunger Strikes (Part 1)

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0:27Welcome back to Finversus History. As ever, I'm with Horatio Ghoul. Thus has no laughing matter. This is a legitimate historical podcast. We are, I'm delighted to say, returning to the Troubles, the tapas restaurant. The skew whiff, as we call it. The Troubles. Lots of little picky bits. Yes. We started this series. It is small plates. Yeah. We started this series a year ago, I believe, and we only got three years in. Yeah. We're now heading towards the hunger strikes, which we'll do with next episode, but there's lots to enjoy before then. Bundle of laughs. It is a bundle of laughs, famously.

1:06And it's obviously a completely settled issue that no one's bothered by anymore. And just because we got away with it last time doesn't mean we shouldn't try again. Yes, of course. I've got active dates in the diary in Northern Ireland and I'm thinking, fuck it. Let's roll the dice. I'm a father of two. Maybe I want to be blown up. Maybe, let's see. So now last episode, uh the what small plates did we enjoy last episode uh bloody sunday yeah bloody friday yeah most days uh bloody every day for about five years should we do a quick maybe a quick recap for any listeners that haven't heard go back to i don't know if the historical context is important for this though no i think i think i think famously two british men just just having a crack at it i actually think you just take it as it is i don't think looking back in the past gives you any uh new perspective no basically i think it muddies the water i think it does well it is it doesn't actually make anything clearer i think you should just treat both sides as doing it completely with no context or reason just doing it on a whim that's what that's my take what are you what are you don't buy um northern ireland uh the north of the island of ireland has several uh at this point political and paramilitary groups uh that differing between catholic and protestant um it's like um the the kind of golden age of the boy band where it felt like there was a million different boy bands in sync you know had louis walsh to get in fucking was it westlife boy zone you know it feels like there's so many of these different competing boy bands yes trying to make it big yes uh and they're all swirling around northern ireland they all have uh acronyms that sound like shopping channels yeah uh ubf pira they're they're all sitting on stools turning around uh seductively Wet hair.

2:51In terms of the small plates we enjoyed last year, the tapas. I mean, reading a tapas menu out in Northern Irish is one of the most fun. But tell us, bravos. I'd like some, hey, hey, you know, hey, excuse me. When you're in a restaurant and you'd like service, bringing out the Northern Irish accent, everyone puts their glass out. Who won the Traitors this year? Oh, it was Rachel. Rachel. She kind of won with the Northern Irish accent. that sort of it completely fucked everyone over basically because no one's across her yeah yeah have you i mean that's funny it's have you seen the the whole thing about how every person that gets voted out first is black or non-white yeah it's like a horror film the first one to go is black but it's just it's it's very funny that every series there's been like there's something something i don't trust and like well they haven't got anything to go on yeah black guy i just i'm getting a feeling from you i don't know what it is yeah i just i wish they could in the first series the first person who left um i remember this vividly i thought this show is fucking brilliant because the first person they kicked out they're like yeah you didn't um you didn't cheers when we all cheers and she was like well i've only got one hand and i was doing something else no no no no i don't trust you well maybe we should make it racially ambiguous for the first couple of rounds of traits or everyone has to do a different accent to the one they have yes so yeah okay i think that would that would get past the sort of hello dear i have and have always been a traitor transgender uh oh i'd love to see him on the traces especially if the only question he was asking you are gay why are you gay I would like to start tonight why are you gay why are you gay you're a transgender are you transgender well the country of Northern Ireland is transgender it is transgender country pray for genuinely transgender people within Northern Ireland because how many fucking things they got to identify as men, women, Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland Britain, Ireland everyone pick a team in our last episode we dealt with the year 1972 which was the which was pretty bleak it was the bloodiest year of the troubles that included the bloody sunday the big boo-boo the whoopsie the big whoopsie you know I know that we're fairly impartial as a podcast but I put my hands up and I'd say that the British were there was a bit of a whoopsie it was a banana peel we slept in a banana peel after bloody sunday they suspend Stormont which is the Northern Irish yes Stormont's where all the DUP lesbians are right yes for some reason I hear Storm and it feels like a Arlene Foster feels like a lesbian barricade why have you got Penny Morden up Charlie are you trying to make me bust yeah yes she yeah her carrying the sword yeah stand up and fight you'd like to sit on that sword wouldn't you Penny I was going to say that sword what is it do you remember when she did her stand up and fight speech did you see that what was that have you seen that it's the shittiest speech can we watch a bit of it Yeah, of course.

6:04The thing is, with all these absolute smoke shows, their speeches are never as... Forget what they're saying. It's like the Liz Truss cheese speech. It's like when Page Three girls had the little bubble saying, I think our boys should... You know, it's not for them to say, really. It's not why I'm... Pinder, I'm not coming to you for how we're going to solve the Gaza crisis, all right? Liz Truss, I'm not coming to you to be the... Oh, no, you are the one. Let's trust, I'm not coming to you to set the mortgage market, all right? That's not what you're strong at. What you're strong at is getting your gazoongas out on page three.

6:39What's Mordent saying then? Come on, Charlie. And fight because when you stand up and fight, the person beside you stands up and fights. Yeah, it's not. It's like hearing David Beckham speak. It is, yeah. It's worse. The nation stands up and fights. Stop saying stand up. And when our nation stands up and fights, absolutely i mean 10 out of 10 yeah every other aspect of her what a woman so stormant is where arlene foster for me i just for some reason the word storm and arlene foster dup in my head it feels like a last defense for lesbians it's like a barricade lesbian lesbian rocks drift is yeah yeah if shit is the van the lesbians will retreat to stormant well that's the motherland isn't it for lesbians i feel is stormant yeah look at her christ um now i think she's famously very anti-gay yes but she's also probably the most lesbian looking woman there's ever been she's not gay but just for some reason it just feels right why are you gay that's what she'd say the last redoubt of lesbianism is stormant um but the brits at this point they have to they take over they impose direct rule the british troop deployment rises by about 21 000 personnel by the late 1972.

7:5572 is a bit of a bad year. It's a bad year on all sides. The IRA announced official... Is this Heath? This would be Heath. And Heath, of course, is, you know, he's getting around the table. Yeah. Come on, everyone. Yeah. Let's all get around the table. Let's shake hands. Roll up your sleeves. Roll up your sleeves. Let's thrash out a deal. He's always talking to the IRA. An early July provisional IRA delegation. He's putting a Google Meet in the calendar and just having a pointless Zoom. that's what he loves that well he takes value in having a full schedule of meetings much as channel four commissioners yes it's it feels like a tv commissioner just basically the last 45 minutes you're like did anything get achieved well the last 20 years i've been channel force troubles in that nothing has happened yeah but a lot of meetings yeah and a lot's been lost a lot of death so after this we uh what happens is something called operation motor man uh sounds fun which it's not operation motorboat charlie no um the we're gonna go in there um i mean motorboating arlene foster would you know would what i don't know i don't know you know it came with my head would it be nice i think it would she's got a nice shelf of tit yes she does yeah so i wouldn't mind sleeping on the top of her bosom she doesn't strike me as a shoulder to cry on she's not soft no she's hard she's hard as a woman can get um granite you could build houses out of arlene foster um so motor man is where the british army they bait it's similar to when uh reagan clamps down on the war on drugs it's it's you know it's heavy-handed you might say yeah um or it's not it's exactly what's needed at all times we will be giving both sides um it's a Complicated live issue.

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12:35in 1991 two hikers in the alps found a body melting in the ice they assumed a fallen climber what they'd actually found was a 5 000 year old murder victim welcome to buried evidence join archaeologist professor rakshadeve and me historian rebecca radil as we dig up some fascinating true crime through history launching on friday the 4th of september you can find buried evidence wherever you watch or listen to your podcasts. Subscribe at thecrimedesk.com and get episodes a week before anyone else. So Operation Motor Man is the largest British military operation since the 1956 Suez crisis. It's the largest conducted in Ireland since the War of Independence.

13:1622 ,000 British soldiers are involved, but heavy equipment, tanks, and the objective is to dismantle the no-go areas that since the 1969 riots, this is all the civil rights, all that. What, like East London? Nowadays, East London, yeah. Like Brick Lane, Sadiqistan. The whole of Birmingham. The whole of Birmingham is a no-go area. You go in there, you're immediately converted to Islam. Yeah, you have to. You have to these days. It's similar, I guess it's Ules, in a way. Yes. We bring up Ules every single episode. It's the live issue of our time. But it's not ultra-low emission zones, are they? Because there's quite a lot of emissions.

13:55It's Uhez. yeah Belfast in the 70s ultra high emission zone so it's not environmentally friendly I think no no no cocktails and stuff no no Greta's not enjoying the so they're trying to break up these barricades these in Derry and in Belfast and the operation begins at 4am hello Derry sorry hello Derry I think it's a play on hello there right yeah Charlie's puns you know I like the confidence is showing. They track. It's just more, sometimes it's more what do you want us to do with that. Yeah. Not much. Just acknowledge me. Just acknowledge me. You are acknowledged. Hello, Derry. I exist. Put it in a sentence.

14:37Hello, Derry. I guess that is the sentence, isn't it? Fair enough. British forces use bulldozers and centurion AVREs. Can we see what that looks like? Is that just Arlene Foster strapped to a pickup truck to smash through barricades before infantry advanced in armored vehicles. And the IRA don't attempt... Oh, look at that. Bloody hell. Big old tank, that. That's Arlene in her 20s. Yeah, that's Arlene going for a drive. Arlene going for a stroll. She had a bigger nose on her youth. During the operation in Derry, British soldiers shoot four people and they kill a 15-year-old civilian and a 19-year-old PIRA member.

15:18What were they wearing? What were they wearing? It's a very valid question. what were they saying? Mini skirts. PIRA is the provisional IRA. Right. But the operation from the British perspective succeeds. The provisionals lost their sanctuaries. They don't smash the provisionals. They don't smash the gangs. Don't smash the gangs. And so, but Operation Motor Man means the IRA have to transition. Again. Again. Back to mail. Sorry, I should have said that they're all. They're shapeshifters. They're all in wigs and miniskirts at this point. No, they have to transition towards a sort of guerrilla warfare, the Taliban in Afghanistan.

15:59And so they reorganize into cells of three to five members. This is the O-Taliban. Yeah. It's O, Sama bin Laden, and the book Taliban. No, the book Taliban was William Wallace. It's the O-Taliban. Suddenly, it becomes much more underground. And we get to the long war in England, which is to exhaust British political commitment through sustained operations. To make something so boring that we give them Ireland back. Basically. Make the news so boring. It's just constantly poking us like that. So the reason we're going through the 70s is because we need to build up the context for how the hunger strikes play out on the British side.

16:42We'll be joined by our correspondent, Vittorio, to talk about the hunger strikes. Northern Ireland, one of the easier places in the world to be on hunger strikes. well yeah famously there's a massive hunger strike in the 19th century yeah from our perspective more saying i think british cuisine in general oh i see right no i just i can't cannot empathize with anyone who goes on hunger strike i just just think it's the stupidest thing you could do i don't believe in anything i don't i wouldn't even there's nothing i wouldn't even not eat in order to get a better meal i'd eat the meal then say i'd like the better meal after having eaten the bad meal but what's that is that a hunger is that going on hunger strike no because i couldn't do it this hunger strike can i have more food hunger strike yeah i don't know if that really works i'm i will not eat well actually no i will and i'd also like some more food i couldn't do it you do like a mukbang would be sort of yeah i do i do it yeah i do a protest mukbang yeah i will not stop eating until my rights are recognized please someone make him stop he's gonna die he's gonna die yeah that's it i do the opposite i do it i do a an opposite of a fast um it's why i could never be muslim yeah you were close you nearly you nearly converted nearly yeah you're right on the i was right i was ready when i heard about the the rules of ramadan yeah tough tough ramadan's tough especially if you live in the arctic circle because you know ramadan's a constantly moving thing so it's like every week every time it changes and it moves down the year so right so over your lifetime you'll have ramadan at every point in the year so people who are Muslims, the rare, small Muslim population in the Arctic Circle.

18:19Must be tiny, Charlie. Just see how many Muslims are in the Arctic Circle. Remember, there's like three months a year where it's day forever. You know this? Yeah, so they must die. Yeah, they do. So it's tough. They all become Bobby Sands. There can't be many Muslims living in. No, I think if you live that high up, you set it on Mecca. You're like, you do whatever, Mecca time. There's a little mosque on the tundra, which is about 100 people in Canada. Yeah. and about a thousand in tromso in norway yeah so ramadan then can be pretty bleak yeah i don't think i mean i don't think islam works in the snow no i don't think they'd really thought about that it's a desert greenland uh one there's one known muslim living in greenland what's his name shout him out shout him out greenland with the greenland muslim uh do you reckon that sounds like a jason statham film or something the greenland muslim one man do you reckon there are people in Greenland being like bloody hell Greenland Greenland down in Stan nowadays these days can't do anything Greenland's gone down the drain his name is Wassam Azakir friend of the show friend of the pod Wassam Azakir pour one out for Wassam he lives in Nook he runs a restaurant in Nook he fasts for 21 hours during the Arctic summer fuck fuck me fuck me so hang on he has three hours where he just mukbangs and then he goes back on fast fair fucks fucking hell shout out Wasam add him to the pantheon of the greats everyone else in everyone else in Greenland's like bloody hell these days can't say anything these days Sharia law in Greenland there are 12 people so it's it's about it's 10 % of the country he's got his Sharia restaurant there and I can't fucking drive anywhere because of the Ulaz that Wasam's put in Wasam yeah Nukistan go on can we find a picture of him let's see what he looks like I think that might be him is that him he looks like you Charlie oh no that's that he's telling us no there's no pictures of wassam but anyway if you're listening wassam that's his what mosque maybe that's a shed does wassam have a mosque if they're turning our sheds into mosques come on you know make greenland great again so deep can we have any space yeah it's a long history of greenland you can't have it just be completely overruled by no foreign cultures like this anyway if you're listening shout out shout out wassam keep going 21 hours of fasting Christ so in December 1973 we get to the Sunningdale agreement which is Heath's first major attempt to build a political settlement do you want to place this?

20:52let's place 1973 1973 that is it's after eugenics has been disavowed so would you say that's 1945? yep that's the Nuremberg a tragedy yeah okay a tragedy for eugenics yeah newenberg uh and it is before uh social darwinism starts to come back in big brother okay where you which you'd say scratches a similar itch when the kind of sun is saying maybe we when people are talking about putting uh sterilizing things to people's water supply to stop a council house people having six and seven kids yes interesting which is kind of i think it's the it's the big brother starts that sense of big brother is mainly where uh nicky and big brother yeah it's mainly king king a bottle up a fanny so however sticking the bottle up fanny did that bring social darwinism back into the certainly in my head it did something's got to stop something's got these people have got to stop breeding when she's breeding with a bottle i suppose so um but yeah i'd say social darwinism I just, you know, the snobbish noises that certainly my parents make when Big Brother was on, it scratched a similar part of the brain as I imagine the eugenicists.

22:15The phrenology part of the brain. Yeah. And they're like, God, this is absolute tripe. These people shouldn't be on screen. They shouldn't be rewarded. Yeah. You know. Jake Goody. Jake Goody. Yeah. You know, rest in power. Rest in power. Jake Goody. um okay yeah so uh this is kind of in the middle of this yeah uh so sunningdale is it's heath it's it's trying to get a northern island assembly together is any social darwinism happening around this because i know that a lot of social darwinism happening in the past in ireland they got big heads yes so we shouldn't we should take all their food yeah well yeah they went on hunger strike for for five years in the 1840s you've made your point i made my point but was any of that being talked about now is this kind of in the is in the low point of social darwinism so i guess it's not i think it's very hard to be out out an open out the closet social darwinist these days uh i'm still firmly closeted sure as a social darwin but it's two big-headed irish people against each other so it's like confusing for a social darwinist isn't it yes it is it is it's a civil war spider-man meme yeah it is but they've both got massive heads it's spider-man means the korean war it's um donkey kong mode on uh golden eye yeah he didn't play in 64 golem did you no I didn't oh Christ Charlie did you play look at me like I'm not a real man I played Nintendo Wii Quantum of Solace no it's not the same it's the same it's not the same different generation did you play were you big into Wii sports I was very big into Wii sports yeah I genuinely thought I could play tennis I can imagine you smashing a telly because you're doing a serve I played it until quite recently I used to play in lockdown I spent lockdown doing Wii poppers Wii poppers Wii poppers yeah me and my housemate what game's that me and my housemate would play Wii tennis and whoever lost the game of Wii tennis had to do that many sniffs of poppers as there were points.

24:01But poppers is a great feeling. Because if you do like 15, 20 sniffs of poppers, you have to have like a really big lie down and you feel really sick. So we spent... Sorry, you'd lose a set of tennis, like 40 love, and then have to do five poppers. Yeah, but we had this one game of like juice where he like, it was like 15 points of wee tennis and he had to lie down for an hour and a half. And then you're back to the tennis? And then back to tennis, yeah. Poppers is just to... No. No. It doesn't loosen your poppers. It doesn't really do that. I was scared doing poppers that just loads of shit would fall up my arse because it'd be so gaping huge.

24:35Yes, that's what I thought. You don't just gape. I can see the fear in your eyes. I don't do poppers because I think it'll set off some gay man's pheromones and they'll come and bum me. It's like a flare that you set out on. Don't you immediately get a Grindr profile if you... I think so. But it's actually just like an immediate rush that's quite nice. You just feel boiling. So why is it associated... I feel boiling. Why is it associated with the gay community, though? Because it apparently... I think it does loosen it up, but it's not like... Right, so it's not... I thought it was like... It's not fear-mongering.

25:01I thought it was like... No, because I felt it doesn't... I think maybe your bum's just quite loose anyway. It doesn't touch the size. Yeah. Well, let's look it up. Does poppers loosen your arse, or is that an urban myth? What myth busters? We should probably... Yeah, well, no, people need to know. If I wear a beret and shave my head, I could be one of those guys from Mythbusters, but instead we could be seeing if poppers really loosens your arsehole. Yeah, apparently it relaxes the smooth muscle tissue of the body, including the anal sphincter. So your whole body loosens, but I've not noticed that, personally.

25:28But you're quite loose, generally. Yeah. So you're not a rigid man. You walk and your arms are swinging like a monkey. You wouldn't stand well on parade, I don't think. No, no. You're the opposite of that bloke that stands outside Buckingham Palace in the big hat. Yeah. You're the opposite of that. I dare, John. Saying hello to everyone. Hello, this is brilliant. Look at the size of this hat. Yeah. The IRA then start to kick off a mainland England bombing campaign. 1974, it's a bad year in Britain. You can go back through our post-war British Prime Minister series. 1974, Heath and Wilson are swapping the keys to number 10.

26:05Wilson's on poppers, Marcia's roofing around up there. But this is also where the IRA campaign comes to Britain. Take it to home. They take it home. or not away from home. In March 1973, the old Bailey is bombed. Four car bombs go off in London. This is peak car bomb. Right. This is, I suppose to place this in a better way rather than the social Darwinism would be to say that this is after the car and it's before people, it's before people would drive cars into like Christmas markets. right so it's uh because that's the that's the modern equivalent right yes that is the model is you just gta into the sidewalk well that's what that's what islamic terrorists do nowadays is they just the uber gta what i like about that as a thing is you can you can become a terrorist with five seconds of leading yes like you could just be driving yeah fuck it do you have a manifesto no yeah i just go fuck yeah i support islamic state like you could just on a on a dime any of us can do it you're listening on the you're listening on the um on the radio to lbc they've got an islamic state caller you think do you know what he's made a lot of good yeah but also you don't have to you don't have to be a fan of islamic state you can just hate christmas markets that's true but you i do think make it an issue might as well choose an issue i'm a single issue it's christmas markets i get very stressed at christmas markets so on the m62 there's a coach carrying soldiers from...

27:43They'd been on like weekend leave. I didn't realise that soldiers all get on a bus and go for like a jolly... Have they been to the beach or something? What, on just like for holiday? The weekend leave. Yeah. Away from the barracks. So it's soldiers and their families... The sunshine bus. Yeah. Thankfully, they don't blow up a sunshine bus. Come on. Come on. Guys. Guys. Jerry. Martin. You can't blow up... Windy neck in. You cannot blow up a British sunshine bus. Right? That's too far. No, this is sort of, I guess, the opposite of a sunshine bus in that it's the military, the soldiers and families.

28:17Anyway, they blow it up in the early morning of the hours of 4th of February and 12 are killed. This starts a series of bombings that really shake the nation. The Guildford pub bombing, which we can get into more when Victoria's here. Why is Charlie just pissing himself laughing when I said Guildford pub bombing? This is my mate's baby. Right? He's in the army now. He's the guy who's the pool ball I had to put in my mouth. I had to put a... We were talking on our other podcast, we were talking about sports initiations. This baby's dad, I had to put a pool ball, an eight ball pool ball that he put in his bum in my mouth.

29:02Why? When the baby was born? Are you the godfather or something? No, he joined a cricket team, was it? Rugby team. And that's his baby and he joined the army. But how fucked is that photo? I mean, are we allowed to just show another band's baby? I think we can blur the baby's face. Right. It's a baby sleeping in an army helmet. But I guess you put... It makes it look like the guy in the army's dead. Yeah. He's not. Right. He's very much alive. I mean, you would know if I could taste his pool ball one ball. Disgusting. Pool ball up his ass then you're out. He shot it out and I had to put it in my mouth.

29:37Was he on Poppers? how are you getting a pool ball up there without poppers i guess it's a lot of i think you start with smaller things and you work your way up he liked it he was the worst person to have that done because he he just loved it look at him yeah i don't i i think i suppose i would challenge you on how relevant to the guildford pub that story is um both are shocking both shocking both shock the country yeah the people listening question humanity there will be people listening who are thinking thank fuck we've got back onto the gilford pub bombings because of how shocking that story was and also the baby in the army helmet was completely irrelevant to the fact you shoved a pool ball up your mouth and then ate it sort of i mean it's his dad oh yeah i don't think you know i don't think that that boy wants the line lives on the boy wants to grow up in the shadow of the line of things dad's dad's pretty pool ball yeah i don't you know i i don't want my kids to have to um live in the shadow of your pile live in the shadow of my piles dwarfed i was gonna say i was more gonna say this podcast rather than my piles well we don't know which one will end up being more famous when i'm gone and my kids like oh tell us about your dad well he had massive piles would you be the face of a piles campaign uh yes yeah hemorrhoid cream absolutely me and tyreek me and tyreek what what face are you doing on the tube so it's a tube ad is that is this face i get some brands up of hemorrhoid kick cream hemorrhoid cream yeah uh maybe i should bring up my own brand of hemorrhoid cream yeah but look sponsored that's david gandy i don't know yeah but you see that he googled it with gantt matters in mahama gandhi fucking idiot right so anusol anusol would you do like an anusol collab 100 % 100 % so on the tube the tube ad for anusol yeah finn taylor is it just you going like that big thumbs up it's no it's probably it's uh it's me with like a a bunch of grapes i've been blessed to not really have had piles so i don't really know what i don't really know what they probably look like and now you are hashtag blessed i've not really seen it because that's that's the great that's the great curse of you're not getting a mirror no like the barber's chair yeah i see the back i finished a session my personal trainer and then he holds a mirror around my ass you're happy with that yeah that much better thank you much better those are full to the brim brimming with grapes thank you yeah um oh god yeah no uh i would i would you know if you're listening anus i'll get in touch if you pay off my mortgage i will i will i will wear branded anus all clothing for the next 10 years whatever that is anus all tracksuit anus all caps tracksuit i'll become the anus all comedian if you pay off my mortgage i will do it yeah every man's got a price if you pay off anyway you know there's other brands i'd do it for who i don't know um whatever you know anus all needs you and it's just me pointing starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer.

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35:17Follow the bunker now on your favourite app. You won't want to miss it. Anyway, listen, we've gone slightly off pace. We were talking about the Guildford pub bombings, which are only slightly more bleak than what Charlie does with his mates, which I'm never not shocked by, how you spend your time. It's crazy to me. I think we should give you less annual leave. Yeah. because I just never it's never not disturbing we've managed to take about 60 % of work off him from last year and he's just filling it now filling his ass with pool balls instead anyway work was setting you free yeah so five die in the Guildford pub bombings four off-duty soldiers one is civilian and there's an amazing story that I think Sandbrook talks about this and the rest is history when they're doing 1974 about literally it's someone goes to the toilet in the pub in Guildford and then someone fills their seat and if they hadn't done that like seconds later they're dead oh really yeah so again it's it's the same way with thatcher you know at this time toilet breaks are never better timed yes than in the 70s and 80s in mainland britain i guess in my head i always feel i'd be like the guy in air india who jumped out the last minute i love that guy i still because when he talks about how he survived he makes everyone who died sound like a fucking idiot what'd he do because you're like how'd you survive he's like i don't know i just fucking got off why didn't you get off you fucking idiots yeah i got off before it crashed yeah i just cunted myself out the plane and got off you just sat in your seats like sheep yeah he just has a slight limp yeah i'm done done fine easy i could see we were going down i thought fuck this get out and he went and got a different way you see the footage you're like how has anyone got out of that he goes into a building and you got out uh you can drop me here actually yeah i'll pop off here cabbie anyway here's good anyway here's good how the fuck is he alive i don't i don't i'm Not to be a truther about it.

37:10Go on. I don't think he was on the plane. What? He just gets out and he's like, yeah, fuck off. I'm fine. Do you think he was maybe cheating on his wife in the building? It's just, it's a bit fishy, isn't it? Well, I bet he was cheating on his wife in the building and he didn't want people to know what he was doing. So he pretended he was on the plane. Ah! Ah! Oh, ow! Oh, ah! Ow! Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. It's never happened ever. No. No one's ever surprised. He escaped through a breach in the fuselage, but then if it's already a fuselage, how is he getting out?

37:42He unbuckled, crawled through the wreckage and was aided by the impact breaking the plane structure. So I think it made like a perfect hole in the plane that he kind of just rolled out of. So does that mean he didn't die on impact though? He didn't die at all. No, I know. So there must have been something in the way that just kind of stopped him. But I think maybe he just flew out at the exact right... Do you think he was aloof the whole time? You think he flew out? You think the plane hit the building of the force, So he went, wait. You think that's happened? Sort of, yeah. I think he would have just been like barreled out in this kind of perfect, completely impossible way.

38:16Do you think he was raw dogging the whole flight? He was one of those guys. Beethoven's brother. Yeah. Well, you think he, yeah, this is, he was raw dogging the flight. And then it just like, and then it smashed him out. And then he's in the street and he's like. What? And what? Okay, a different plane then. That one's. You can't part there, mate. But yes, my point is that, you know, never has a poo been better timed. yes this time yeah um piles will set you free from the ira the main defense we have in this point in the 70s is our piles yes but piles might not set you free if the bomb was in the toilet so it depends it depends if the ira are putting bombs in toilets they are sinking to depth i did not know they could be it's one thing to bomb a sunshine bus but to bomb a toilet which is a man's safe space your last refuge that's where i go when i've had enough of my wife and kids and yes, I'm straining.

39:06Dads have, they have the sheds and they have the toilets and those are ours. Okay? Sadiq, you can't take those away from us. If you make my toilet a mosque, I'm finished. I'm defecting to reform if you make my toilet a mosque. All right? That's the Guildford pub bombings dealt with. They're done. Victoria can tell us what he said and why he got in trouble. Anyway, there's then the Birmingham pub bombings. Is this the Birmingham... This is five. Yeah, it ends up being about the Birmingham Six. Go to the guys in skinny jeans, the Birmingham Four, outside Birmingham Station. Not the Fantastic Four, Charlie, the Birmingham.