Don’t Even Talk To Me Before You’ve Picked My Coffee | Papa Doc: Haitian Dictator (Part 1)

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1:27Welcome back to Finn vs. History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. Woohoo! And I'm delighted to say that today and this week we're in the Caribbean. Easy. This is easy. Easy, Brenner. We are in Haiti. Yep. For the... This is Aylan Gaddafi. Here we go. When we started this podcast, you wouldn't have come strong with that. No. But my word, what a year it's been. Yep. It's been a long year. It's been a long year and we've worn him down. And now he's just firing West Indian accents off the court. we're in haiti for papadoc yes uh the voodoo dictator there we go it's lovely stuff this yeah if you can't have fun with this then why are you in the game palm tree mussolini palm tree mussolini plant in hitler whatever take your pick take your pick we're in haiti which is now uh it's a long history before papadoc um it's a very interesting history but it it has led to i don't think this is offensive to say but the worst country on earth they would admit it I was reading this morning about the 1804 revolution in Haiti it's the first ever country amazing to overthrow slavery it's a black republic it used to be the most profitable Connolly and it's undertaught in schools because now it's the shittest country in the world yes and the optics of that are quite bad if you're anti-slavery well yeah it's complicated I'm not I'm not saying what are you saying I'm not saying what are you saying with a big smug look at your face no I'm just saying why is it not taught in schools is because you know the narrative isn't great from an anti-slavery perspective overthrow slavery it's by any metric the shitiest place in the world now those are just two facts yeah you know coincidence does not equal causality i'm not saying they do but it's uh it's a bad place sure real bad place and a lot of that is to do with um duvalier yeah the man we will be discussing this series It wasn't immediately terrible from the slave revolution.

3:20There was like, there's ups and downs. In the early 1900s, they had a chance. The United States fucked around a lot with them, to be fair. They did, but also - But it has resulted in the worst country in the world. Yes. To live in. It's the poorest in the Western hemisphere. It seems like a fucking nightmare, to be honest. It really does. Yeah, yeah. It's a country where the main thing they eat is dirt cookies. i guess you get maybe a tiny bit of what you'd have bread and then you you mix them with mud right and like kind of i guess like cement or something and then you can just make loads of them and it doesn't even what it does it just gives you the idea of being full but okay has no nutritional value so it's a bit like a cookie what's it it's like a gastric bypass yeah i guess it makes you fit the dirt is mixed so it's dirt strained to remove rocks and clumps the dirt is mixed with salt and vegetable shortening or other fat so it's a salty um ceramic cookie it's a coaster yeah yeah it's a ceramic coaster pretty gnarly to be honest that's a haytian biscuit so soggy biscuit in asia is a very very difficult game yeah that's where the worlds are held yeah yeah yeah that's the world series peak um the champions league of soggy biscuit it takes place in the haze.

4:40This is not China. Now, Haiti occupies the western half of the island of Hispaniola. The other half is Dominican Republic, I think. How's Dominican Republic getting on? Do you know? Well, is that technically a US territory? I don't know. You don't hear much about that. It's doing well. Economically booming. Due to a tourism sector. So that is quite interesting that there's literally the same island kind of half. Its main problem is that it borders Haiti, which is a significant security concern. it's like having a heroin addict in the family yes turning up on christmas day my main issue is my fucking piece of shit cousin haiti was formerly the french colony of san dominique yeah and it was the most profitable colony in the world in the 18th century sugar coffee uh indigo i don't know what that is i'll keep the sugar in the coffee you have the indigo what is that is that color i don't care it's blue dye right so this is for french people to dye their hair yeah what blue is the warmest color yeah just sort of lesbian yeah they're getting sugar they're getting coffee they're dying their hair fringe and they're going on about fucking poetry okay so it's for non-binary french people yes yeah the huge industry that was booming we must not forget that non-binary french people are built on the backs of slaves it was a bad place in the 18th century if you were working there working again it's probably not the right word i don't know if you live to work what you work to live uh in in haiti the 18th century you're sort of working to die i guess and you and you but you weren't dying to work no you weren't you weren't coming in the morning going oh another day here we go um around dying at work though you were dying at work and from work yeah yeah uh work was everything yeah but first coffee i need to get coffee beans or else I'll be killed.

6:27It was coffee all day, actually. Don't even talk to me until you pick the coffee. First thing is you get all that coffee and last thing is you still get all that coffee. Don't even talk to me, the white guy, until you pick my coffee. Now, around 773 ,000 people are enslaved there during the 80th century alone. The death rate from yellow fever meant at least 50 % of the slaves died within a year of arriving. Now, yellow fever is not what your uncle calls being horny for Chinese people. That's a tropical disease. Yeah. the death rate was so high that polyandry develops as a common form of marriage.

7:03Right. So as a response to a high death rate, polycules form. Yes, sort of. But it's more polyandry is women with lots of men. Bonnie Blue. Is it? Yeah. Oh, so what's the, what's men with lots of women? Bigamy. Is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. No, polyamory is the general. Everyone. Interesting. um so it feels like when there's a low death rate you polycules come in right because you're running out of things to complain about yes and there's a really high death rate it's like a horseshoe right of of polycules well in the way that bonnie blue is the death of society the death of the west because we didn't we didn't have anything we didn't have any natural predators yes exactly we just just said let's fucking do this i've got nothing else to do and now in 1791 the enslaved Haitians rose in revolt because France, who'd been running the colony, they just had their French Revolution.

7:52Yes. And they'd said that we're all equal. Everyone is equal. Yeah. Apart from you guys. Apart from you guys over there, you're not technically people. Yeah. So under leaders such as Toussaint Louverture and Jean-Jacques Dessalines, they, over the course of the next 10 years, they defeat the armies of France, Britain and Spain. Group of death. Yeah. Yeah. That's a tough to get through that. To be fair, they've done very well. Yeah. The odds were long on Haiti qualifying. There's Iceland in the 2016 Euros. There's also leaders in the Haitian revolt with names such as Dutty Buchman, who's an enslaved leader and a voodoo priest.

8:34Is that just someone who reads? Dutty Buchman. That's the equivalent of being called gay for reading in Haitian society. Here, you're Dutty Buchman. And then we've got Cécile Fatiman, who is a woman. Cécile Fatiman. these are good names but but everyone in this story sounds like a sort of early 2000s sean paul rapper that's the problem with papa doc shanda paul and dutty borkman they these people and people like this had kind of um there was this thing called voodoo which had developed over the course of the slave uh trade because it was uh a different african religion well there was lots of different folk tribal religions in west africa yeah and then little bits of it survived the journey over yeah sort of like a bastardization of that but it blended it married with french catholicism yes and i think you think's voodoo anyway yeah so it's all nonsense really uh yeah it doesn't really make sense to me is voodoo yes they're waving incense around they're drinking wine they're having a biscuit it's not a real biscuit like it's not no you should sit in a classroom and be quiet yes that's what churches should be yeah anyway a famous voodoo ceremony in 1791 is often described as the catalyst for the slave uprising that eventually leads to haitian independence um so they get fired up basically it fires them up yeah but white slave owners generally see them as kind of nonsense so they kind of they go they let them have it right uh but on the night of the 14th of august 1791 a group of enslaved africans gather in a forest near we don't know where um near a port

10:08you've placed it they know where it is near a port yeah uh well you ever been to haiti listeners of course you haven't it's the shittest place in the world um not my words he wants to pull back but no it's statistically the shittest place statistically yeah by any metric but then if you're haitian and we're wrong uh do ring in let us know yeah maybe maybe all those studies are wrong push your limits train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox. Start today at equinox.com. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT.

10:47Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Hey, I'm running out to drop off a stack of letters and packages. Need anything shipped while I'm gone? Save the gas. Stamps.com lets you print postage and schedule pickups right from your desk.

11:25Sync your contacts into the address book, get detailed accounting insights, and get notified the moment your certified mail is delivered. All from my desk? All from your desk. Join the 4 million businesses using Stamps.com right now with code podcast and get your free welcome gift. Stamps.com, code podcast. Taxes and fees apply. So the voodoo religious ceremony on the night of August 14th, they used that to plan a revolt against the French plantation owners. This is where Dutty Bookman and Cecil Fatty Man involved. They headline, they drop some sick songs. You used to be a Cecil Fatty Man, didn't you?

11:59I knew I got high. I knew I got high. I knew I got high. Yeah. That's Fat Man Scoop. Right. Who will come into this story. Anyway. No, that wasn't. That was... That was... I got my thing. That's Eddie Graham. No, it's Afro Man. Afro Man. Fuck. Fat Man Scoop. Oh, the chicken head's Be quiet! That one, that's Fat Man's Scoot. Right. They supposedly sacrificed a black pig to the spirits, and they then drank its blood. And in the days that follow, all the plantations erupt in revolt. They set the slaves free. And this starts the Haitian Revolution, which, as we've said - Which is the only successful slave revolt.

12:40Yes, ever. Ever. And in 1804, Haitia becomes the first free black republic. It's also the first free nation in the Western Hemisphere after the USA. Crazy. Crazy stuff. It's the largest slave uprising since Spartacus. I'm bookman. I'm Dutty Bookman. No, I'm Dutty Bookman. Me, Spartacus. Anyway. No back lift on that one. No. Ronaldinho against Chelsea. But independence came at a cost. Now, this is very, very funny. France, the country who had been their masters, they asked for reparations because they have had their slaves taken away. They have. Yeah, they've had their vandalism. When we talk about slave reparations, we never hear about the case for the other reparations on the other side, which is that you've ruined our economy.

13:28Well, you think Haiti should still pay some reparations to France? I think if we're in the discussion about slave reparations, there are two sides to that coin. It's a day, it's a worm. It's a can of worms opening that, isn't it? Now, Haiti is diplomatically isolated. It's economically fucked because France, I think pretty quickly... I mean, they've never had a chance, to be fair, to Haiti. And for some reason, they pay all these reparations. But what they've left in Haiti is this sort of structure where 90 % of people are like originally black Africans. And then you have this sort of 10 % elite class of light skinned.

14:02So it's called mulatto, which is not a politically correct term. Do you know why? Why? Because it comes from the Spanish for mule. Okay. So it's horses and donkeys, i.e. white and black people mixing. So it's pretty un-PC stuff. Yeah. You put it in your pocket, that'll come out later. Yeah. Bank. so the light-skinned elite dominate uh commerce education and with the light-skinned elite were they also enslaved i don't think so i think they were kind of the civil service right now seeking export revenue the leaders forced the peasants back into plantation work so it's basically slavery in another name so basically it's like we freed ourselves we still need to make money that coffee's on who's picking no that's basically but it's similar to supporting black business though yeah it's the black pound yeah yeah but you remember in the russian revolution series where they abolished serfdom and then they basically say to the serfs you now you bought your freedom with money you didn't have you have to pay that loan back so get back back to work back to it it's it's that it's slavery versus indentured servitude is that what that is anyway now politically heishi uh has is and to this day is still a bin fire right yeah uh presidents are assassinated, overthrown, mutilated.

15:18It's probably the most violent place in the world. Yeah, that maybe or Belize or something. And this is the world into which our protagonist, François Duvalier, the hero of this story, is born. So he's born on April the 14th, 1907. By the way, the leader of the Slavery Revolt, who was that? Who was the big guy? Jean-Jacques Dessalines is the leader. He got ripped apart in town square, I believe. Yes, and fed to pigs. fed to pigs in three years time so he frees the country from slavery and then that country then feed him to the pigs it's a tough start it's a tough start now François Duvalier is born on April 14th 1907 in Port-au-Prince which is the capital of Hauchy his father is a teacher and a journalist and a justice of the peace and his mother is a baker but he's largely raised by his aunt Madame Forstel now from childhood Duvalier absorbs this brutal lesson that you only really get power in Haiti if you're fucking mad.

16:17Yeah. So by age six, he had already seen multiple heads of state die violently. The founding fathers, you said, have been fed to the pigs. Other leaders are blown apart, impaled, poisoned. One of them was blown up. I think a president is impaled and just left on the spikes outside the government buildings. If you were going to do that to Starmer, what would be your choice? Of killing him? Yeah. I don't know. No, he's just so bland. You just smother him with a pillow. Blow him up? Blow him up. Pump him until he explodes. Oh, I see. Right, yeah, yeah. Bike pump. Inflate him. Yeah. Right. Now, in 1915, the US Marines occupy Haiti because there was a geopolitical anxiety about the Germans in the Caribbean.

17:02Was there an anxiety? Can you imagine? So there's a mental health thing. Germans in the Caribbean. Bloodclad. sorry i was very excited for that yeah i can see how do you prep that this morning i thought of that this morning i thought of that i got very excited when else could you say that no it's true anyway blood clad um yeah imagine oh my god yeah i mean yeah caribbean hitler what could have been a man

17:37it's hard to do it's caribbean downfall's hard you're nearly there

17:46hey my brother hey my camp

17:54anyway yeah they think the germans are gonna get involved in the caribbean but really they use it as an excuse to just fuck katie over they even only hire marines from the confederate ex-confederate states So they choose specifically incredibly racist. Who are the worst people we know? Who's the most racist are the racists? And so the reality is a racist military occupation that lasts for 19 years. There's massacres. Black Haitians are subjected to - And what does it mean, just anxiety? Are they just scared that, I don't know, someone's going to take - Because World War I is a global naval war.

18:26They just think that, I don't know what the Germans have been doing to foster that anxiety. I don't know, just being anxious. Foster that anxiety. But there are beatings, there are forced labour, heavy taxation, roads are built with unpaid labor under armed guard the sovereignty is essentially destroyed this is a duvalier hates the u.s at a young age um uh now when the americans withdraw in 1934 duvalier he's from a middle-class family yeah uh as with all the greatest cunts in his history they're always like they've always been middle class yes yeah in like a fucked country they'll have like the biggest shed yeah um duvalier graduates as a doctor uh he worked in hospitals and he becomes closely associated with black nationalist intellectuals who promote noirism, which is the belief that Haitians' problems stemmed from a domination by a light-skinned elite.

19:14So it's kind of black populism. Yeah. No extent of the population are black. Yeah. So it's about, yeah, trying to give power back to that. So he also immerses himself in voodoo, which is Haitian. That's ground zero for voodoo. Yeah. Now, obviously, as white Westerners, we see voodoo as like scary, spooky, black magic. But it's everything. That's one part of voodoo. Yeah. It is a part of it. I mean, you see like clips of black people reacting to magic. Yeah. There's an element of that. Yeah, definitely, of course. Voodoo. What's amazing about voodoo is it's sort of a religion where they purposely try to spook themselves.

19:49It's like, most religions that it's got built this whole kind of moral framework, for them it's just like, what's gonna freak you out the most? Booga booga! Oh! Yeah. Great. You're going to church to get scared. um so uh like mysticism and authority are sort of deeply linked this is this is an idea in haiti that to be president you must have done a deal with the devil right um which i feel like a bad starting point yeah for kind of off you know legitimacy of power yeah exactly so he studies public health at the university of michigan there is um there's this thing called yours charlie can you google yours it's a disease that affects children mainly yeah it's pretty fucked actually.

20:30It's pretty messed up. Let's have a look. Yeah. It's like, it's a tropical infection of the skin, bones and joints caused by a bacteria. Disease begins with a round, hard swelling of the skin. It's like an ulcer. It's sort of, is it like Ebola-esque? Yeah. The bones become misshapen. The bone is more blood, isn't it? Yeah, it's pretty gnarly. Pretty nasty stuff. And this is rattling through Haiti, right? Ripping through the middle order. Tearing through them. Yours is steaming in and the Haitians have got no answers for it. But Papadoc gets this name. Duvali gets this name Papadoc because he gets penicillin from the US and travels on foot through all the remote villages and curing thousands of people.

21:15That's pretty good. And so to the Haitians unfamiliar with modern medicine, they seem kind of miraculous. This is when he gets the name Papadoc. And he also, this is where he starts to see the kind of reality of Haitian society. Outside of the city, it's not different rural Haitians. And also, he realizes how important voodoo is to, yeah, to, yeah, normal Haitians. So, he then enters government under President Dumas, estimé, serving as Director of Public Health. But his rhetoric starts to grow increasingly racially charged. But his race is racially charged against mixed race people. Interesting.

21:53Yeah. Which is, it's funny that we, there's never any racism just about mixed race people, is it? yeah i mean from the white perspective anyway no i mean you can see this there's the light-skinned dark-skinned is it called colorism yeah there's there's a lot of dialogue going on there that basically there's a lot of dialogue going on like light skinned have it easy yeah colorism is a yeah i think that's within the black community and i've noticed on tiktok is basically implying that light-skinned are sort of like corny and gay right they're sort of like drake okay do you know what i mean yeah so there's a bit of that going on but then i think there's colorism within the white community.

22:28Yeah. In the eye, you know, Italians. Yeah. Or even gingers. So, now in 1950, Estime is overthrown. Duvalier opposes the queue. Looks like you, Charlie. Sorry. I was, yeah. Charlie just looked at him white Muslim ginger and it looks like you. Exactly like you. Yeah. If you've not seen, if you've never seen Charlie, look at the screen. That's what he looks like. He's a white Muslim ginger. That's who we've got. They all look like you. They're all different people. That's who we've got behind the screen. Who's Muslim Al-Yak? Al - Muhammad Al-Yak. Al-Anu Akbar. Yeah, that's you. That's crazy. So did you just do your flys out?

23:04Yeah, yeah. Christ. This happens in nearly every episode. Really? Yeah, I never read. You started with your wang out. Yeah. But your wang is so below average that it takes you half an hour to go, oh yeah, my dick's out. Well, if your flys are undone, is your dick just flopping out? Yeah. But there is a thing, apparently white Muslims, they're mostly ginger. Most guys who go, most white guys who go Muslim yeah because they're already ostracized from kind of white culture really? yeah yeah it's a thing yeah it makes sense white Muslim ginger stats I think most of us are a ginger because they empathize with being racially abused well I can't I can't tell you but it's a thing redheads are attracted to ginger jihadis redheads are attracted to radical Islam but that's not Islam is it?

23:49no is that written by Miley Unopolis? that is written by Miley Unopolis You know, that guy I showed you, that's the guy who wrote that. So this is the problem, is that Charlie's just citing Milo Yiannopoulos' theories. Have you been keeping up to date with Milo Yiannopoulos? He's back. I mean, he was a huge thing when I was at uni. He was like, he was the original kind of like... He was the original, and I imagine he's pissed off because everyone's stolen his act. Yes, totally. Milo Yiannopoulos did all this shit first, but then his big flaw is that he wrote a book, and he could say anything, and the writer would still like him.

24:21He wrote a book saying that he was glad he got molested, and it was very productive. And that's the one thing I don't fuck with. I get a bit funny about that. Pedos. Yeah. You can't get them on the pedo side. But also... And then he fucking tried to lobotomise himself or something to make him straight. I saw him doing an interview with Tucker Carlson recently where he was saying that he's gay but being gay isn't a thing. It's a lifestyle. No, no, he was gay. Right. And it's a trauma response to being molested. Right, yeah. And then he's like, now I'm straight and I'm doing... And he's literally gone cross-eyed and looks like the most fucked.

24:50He's like, now it's brilliant, now i'm straight he's terrifying and also he's still so camp he went to he went to uni with um phil wang and all that lot really he was at cambridge with them and they were all like that guy's fucking insane yeah that guy's fucking gay

25:06um oh that's crazy yeah but yeah but he's back now but he's missed it he's missed the golden age of his own um personality uh estimates overthrown in 1950 and listen there'll be a lot of haitians that are overthrown. It's something like in 50 years, there's about 69 revolutions. There's a conveyor belt. You find your way on the throne, you get thrown out the window. It's a sushi train. It's the circle of life. The Haitian presidents, yeah. The best way to ensure a long life in Haitia is to not serve in office and to leave. In the previous 70 years, only one Haitian leader had completed a full term.

25:39There you go. Estimate is overthrown in 1950. So Duvalier opposes this coup, leaves the government. He then, he starts reading. As we said, in a country where no one reads, if you're someone who reads, you can take over the whole place. Because the stuff he reads is... One book you can take over the whole place. But he reads Machiavelli and he goes, this is fucking brilliant. And he gets obsessed with the idea that in power, you don't have to be loved, you have to be feared. So this is when, you know, he reads a 400 year old Italian book and he's like, oh, I get it now. Yeah, easy. So by 1954, he sort of become the central opposition figure.

26:14He goes underground, around the you know real haitians love him because they he killed he gave him penicillin uh they think maybe he's a he's a magician um can we do it do like can we make our own voodoo can you like to come up with your own voodoo do you mean like a curse yeah i assume someone who practices voodoo i think you could probably freak him out quite easily you roll your eyes in the back of your head and say i i curse you but like speaking in tongues is kind of christian voodoo isn't it but is that from a christian basis or is that coming from other places it was from a christian basis but we use the word voodoo to describe something that to us sounds like spooky ghost story like wackadoo they're not using it in that way to them it's their religious framework yeah but to us because we watched the film live and let die with baron samedy yeah there's a character in this story funnily enough we think it's kind of um tarot cards snakes getting needles and poking needles it's wackadoo medicine yeah what would make more sense is if if the catholic priests had voodoo sex dolls or something that probably would be like good idea it probably would be a good idea because then you're molesting you're molesting kids without actually but you need to make sure the voodoo doll's not attached to the kid yes the sex voodoo doll means that there's someone on the other end right yeah but then you're molesting them but you're molesting them remotely yeah you can't remote work we're less no but you're molesting them without actually molesting them aren't you no they're still getting molested.

27:39But are they? Yeah, they can feel it. Or are they just coming? No, the kids aren't coming. Who said kids? You did. Okay, fine. Oh, no, maybe you didn't. Yeah, molest. I don't think I did. I don't know if we had it. You can molest an adult. I think that was implied when you said it'd be good if priests had voodoo sex dolls. You can molest an adult. Wait, so you're saying, fine, let's say they're not kids. It's a voodoo sex doll for Catholic priests who are horny and not allowed to have sex. Yeah. And so there'll just be a woman walking down the street and then her tits are getting honked yeah in her head she'll feel like they're being honked but i feel like that's a bit invasive if you're just having your tits honked the whole time but she's not she's in a job interview and she's just having her titties being honked but that but it's not but are you saying she'd probably fucking love it what you're saying is more brilliant i guess what i'm saying is it's not molesting if they don't know they're being molested by a voodoo sex doll then are they actually being molested this is really embarrassing they go bright red it feels like someone's honking my tits.

28:36Do you know what it is? You know that film, I don't remember, we watched this right at the start of the podcast, that guy who has hundreds of orgasms a day, who was like going to his father's funeral and like, it would not surprise me if there's a voodoo sex doll of him. There's a guy just going like that on a doll and he's like, oh. Yeah, but he's not having a good time. No, I know, but is he being molested? I guess that's the philosophical question. If there was a voodoo doll of him, then yes, he is being molested. No, but if he doesn't know he's been molested, is it the perfect crime? It is the perfect crime, but he is being molested.

29:12I don't know. Is that like if a tree falls in the woods? It's still a crime. It's molesting in the eye of the victim or the eye of the... Do you know what I mean? But you just wouldn't be able to get on with your day if you just... I'm not saying it would be a good thing to do. I'm just saying, is it technically... No, what you're saying is, could I get away with it? It's better than getting bummed. It's better than getting bummed. Yes. Virtual bumming. yeah but then it's like no it's bumming if a boy gets bummed in the woods but no one's there to bum him does he really get bummed what's wrong it feels like exactly what it is bummed this is really weird it feels like someone's bummed what are you bumming me right now because it really feels like I'm getting there's a guy in the neck from next door

29:52this is really strange but it really feels like there's a there's a cock in my ass and doctors are like you're fucking crazy but you probably just think there was something wrong with your like yeah you definitely would what's the sensation of having a cock in your bum You're asking the wrong person, Charlie. First guess isn't like there's a man bumming me from like in Mallorca. That's what I mean. That's what I mean about. He's just living the high life. He's living in Mallorca, Brit abroad. Anyway, we're talking about the president of Heishi in the 50s. In 1957, Duvalier becomes president. We need to.