In short
This episode (Part 1 of “Hermann Göring & the Luftwaffe”) is a comedic, conversational history walkthrough of Hermann Göring’s rise in Nazi Germany, focusing on his personality, background, and early power-building. Key claims and points: Göring is portrayed as Hitler’s “fat best friend,” a charismatic, hedonistic figure who helped legitimize the Nazis as more than “madmen.” He is described as intelligent and a war hero from WWI, later becoming the highest-ranking Nazi tried at Nuremberg. The hosts claim he helped set up the Gestapo after joining Hitler’s first cabinet, and that he oversaw secret rearmament leading to the Luftwaffe (air superiority for Blitzkrieg).
Notable examples
Göring’s WWI pilot career (Iron Cross, multiple orders, 22 claimed kills), his role in the Beer Hall Putsch (shot in the groin; Hitler injured), and the “stab-in-the-back” Dolstossenzender conspiracy.
Guest(s)
none in this episode; the next episode will feature Al Murray, an “actual historian.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring Hermann Goering's Character
0:00 to 0:54
Delve into the personality and traits of Hermann Goering and his role in Nazi Germany.
“It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more.”
Exploring Hermann Goering's Character
1:00 to 1:24
Delve into the personality and traits of Hermann Goering and his role in Nazi Germany.
Exploring Hermann Goering's Character
2:24 to 4:30
Delve into the personality and traits of Hermann Goering and his role in Nazi Germany.
“have a look around there's a cornucopia of things what's going on over there?”
Goering's Background and Rise
4:30 to 6:40
Discuss Goering's upbringing, family, and his rise to power in the Nazi regime.
“He saw through a lot of bullshit, this guy.”
Goering's Lifestyle and Influence
6:40 to 8:42
Examine Goering's indulgent lifestyle and its impact within the Nazi hierarchy.
The Legacy of Hermann Goering
8:42 to 14:01
Reflect on Goering's legacy and the implications of his actions in history.
“You should have no more complications than that.”
Exploring Jeffrey Epstein's Style
14:01 to 16:43
The hosts discuss Jeffrey Epstein's fashion and public persona.
“You've got a personal shopper to look like Jeffrey.”
Herman Göring's Early Life and Bullying
16:44 to 19:34
Discussion about Göring's childhood experiences and perceptions of bullying.
“Well, I guess one man's hedonism is another girl's...”
Göring's Military Career in WWI
19:35 to 22:49
Göring's journey through World War I including his rise as a pilot.
“Herman manages to escape any serious injury.”
The End of WWI and Stab-in-the-Back Myth
22:50 to 25:13
The aftermath of WWI and the emergence of the stab-in-the-back theory.
“the House of Order of Hans Alom, and he receives the much-coveted Polar Merit.”
Show all 28 chapters
Göring's Rise in the Nazi Party
25:14 to 28:00
Göring's involvement with the Nazi Party and the Beer Hall Putsch.
“It sounds like every German word sounds like they're saying stab in the back.”
Introduction to Göring and Hitler's Connection
28:00 to 28:55
Learn about the early relationship between Hermann Göring and Adolf Hitler at the Nazi party.
“And so when he joins the Nazi party, he gives the Nazis a lot of legitimacy.”
The Beer Hall Putsch
28:55 to 29:59
Discover the events and significance of the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923.
“I have just bought a, well, it's a World War II watch.”
Personal Stories and Historical Artifacts
29:59 to 31:05
Hear anecdotes about World War II memorabilia and personal experiences related to history.
“You make it sound like I've gone on some kind of hajj to Munich.”
Göring's Injury and Morphine Addiction
31:05 to 33:14
Learn about Göring's injury during the Putsch and its impact on his life and health.
“No, you make it sound like you've been on some sort of hajj to Munich.”
The Rise of the Nazi Party
33:14 to 33:50
Explore how Göring's actions contributed to the Nazi Party's rise and establishment of a dictatorship.
“But there's a point in Nuremberg where Goering says, well, yeah, I started the fire.”
Göring's Personality and Public Image
33:50 to 34:36
Delve into Göring's personality traits and how they shaped his public image during the Nazi regime.
“Nazi he's the high living you know he liked to call himself the Eisen the Iron Man, but he steadily gains weight, gluttony, fueled by a morphine addiction, which is not, you know, morphine's not...”
Göring's Personality and Public Image
34:50 to 36:07
Delve into Göring's personality traits and how they shaped his public image during the Nazi regime.
“Starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times.”
Göring's Lifestyle and Marriage
37:17 to 38:38
Examine Göring's extravagant lifestyle, marriage, and the impact of personal loss.
“The joke does always stop at some point.”
Weddings and Relationships in Nazi Context
38:38 to 42:00
Discuss the dynamics of relationships and weddings among Nazi leaders, including Göring's best man.
“That's what we talked about with the GLB episode, right?”
The Best Man Dilemma
42:00 to 44:40
Discussing the irony of choosing a best man for a Nazi wedding.
“You normally have to thank people for coming.”
Göring's Eating Habits
44:40 to 45:55
Exploration of Hermann Göring's fondness for food and dining.
“He alternates between, he obviously balloons up and down.”
Göring's Unique Fashion Sense
45:55 to 48:19
Insight into Göring's extravagant clothing choices and self-promotion.
“You know, you see the photo of Epstein and Harvey Weinstein and Ghislaine.”
Introduction to the Luftwaffe
48:19 to 48:50
Introduction to Göring's role in the Luftwaffe and its significance.
“trying to avoid being killed manage to sneak in and blend in?”
The Rise of the Luftwaffe
48:50 to 52:00
Discussion on the establishment and importance of the Luftwaffe.
“is that he is put in charge of the initially secret rearmament program.”
Luftwaffe Operations and Success
52:00 to 56:03
Detailed analysis of Luftwaffe operations and their impact in early WWII.
“Right so I think this is another thing I said to my wife to justify the watch in terms of the sort of passionate Nazis Air Force was the most then the army then the actual navy who weren't that bothered.”
The Role of the Luftwaffe in World War II
56:03 to 1:02:30
Learn how the Luftwaffe's actions influenced World War II and Göring's perception of air power.
“In six weeks, Germany shatters Europe's strongest land army.”
The Role of the Luftwaffe in World War II
1:03:30 to 1:03:58
Learn how the Luftwaffe's actions influenced World War II and Göring's perception of air power.
“Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, Autobotulinum Toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk.
0:31Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.
1:24eligibility vary by state. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving. Iconic spaces that inspire. Personal training backed by real data, unlimited group fitness classes from yoga and Pilates to strength and conditioning. Elevate your post-performance ritual with saunas, steam rooms, cold plunges, and more. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox. Start today at equinox.com.
2:09Fin:This one goes out to Down to the Middle of a Divorce. It's Finn vs. History. I'm with Horatio Gould. Don't be goring. And we're talking about Herman Goering. It's a Nazi week. Rejoice. Thank the Lord. I'm in my safe space. 1940s Germany have a look around there's a cornucopia of things what's going on over there? this is the spin-off side series Nazis, right? Hitler's the main show what was the Joey spin-off? oh yeah it was called Joey in the TV show Goering would be the first one to get a spin-off probably I think he's probably the most charismatic Nazi he's hitler's fat best friend yeah every rom-com needs a fat best friend yeah he's got the most riz i think of the nazi hike 100 yeah uh he's he's a glutton which adds a lot because the combination of being gluttonous and nazi yeah it's not the cold methodical discipline of a lot of nazis not gering not gering he's like evil and fat yeah it's it's glorious he's you know if the Nazis are the seven dwarves.
3:20Fin:Goering's the happy one. Hermann Goering and the Luftwaffe. This is a three-part series. Next episode, we'll be doing the Battle of Britain and the Blitz. And we'll be joined by Al Murray, an actual historian. Terrifying. The spirit medium between the two worlds. Will the streams cross? But today, we're talking about Hermann Goering, the fat Nazi. I never heard him speak, but in my head, he sounds like Gunther from The Simpsons. Don't you roll up full of chocolate? Second only to Adolf Hitler in the hierarchy of Nazi leaders. In the hierarchy of people you admire most. In my ideal dinner party, he's the second person I'm putting down.
3:59Dream Blunt rotation. I think there's probably a photo of your Dream Blunt rotation. It's just Nazi high command.
4:03Fin:Yeah, just get the three of them up. Just get Goering, Himmler, Hitler, and Albert Speer at the Berthesgaden and go, yeah, that's my five-a-side team right there. Goering's in goal. Goal. You put the fat lad in goal. Fat lad in goal. There we go. Dream Blunt. dreamblunt rotation. Hitler's henchman. Now, Goering, very intelligent man. Not my words. Not my words. He was the highest ranking Nazi to stand trial in Nuremberg. He saw through a lot of bullshit, this guy. He saw through the bullshit. He saw 1930s Germany and went, let's just cut the crap. Let's cut the crap. Them. Bin. That lot in the bin.
4:42And them. He made a lot of tough decisions that need to be made.
4:46Fin:He was a practice. He could, Can you implement the ideas of Hitler? Yeah. Göring can. Yeah. You know, this is a man who, when the Nazis form government, Hitler gives him a minister without portfolio. And what does he do? He sets up the Gestapo. He gets a portfolio. I'll tell you, I'll find a fucking portfolio. It's called the Gestapo. Imagine, imagine, yeah, we have ministers without portfolio, like Michael Gove. What does that mean? It means you're just in the cabinet because you're a good chap. Okay. But you don't have a particular role. So just personality hire? basically yeah it's more just like michael gove someone to sound like that guy i mean i mean old sniffy goes it's more like gove's been you know he's been across all the briefs yeah uh we should have him in the room yeah but he shouldn't be in charge of anything particular goering's in the room being like i've got an idea yeah why don't we just start he is augustus gloop because i think probably the funniest fat people are german it does fat german nazi yeah yeah it's so the tram for it yeah it is the holy trinity fat german nazi in terms of comedy i don't think you get better than fat german nazi um but it is every country it's funny having fat versions of them but german if for some reason it just the language the language coming out of red cheeks the the pork obsession the sly campness yeah yeah no it is for some reason the Chinese fat people are very satisfying satisfying for sure rub their belly squeeze their cheeks but it just makes you that just feels satisfied it's not making me laugh in the same way no a fat German person running away is oh nein also lederhosen yeah like that's probably as funny an outfit as that basically because they look like big babies they look like big babies seems like Garen loved everything loved everything well not everything you know what this man loved life he did he genuinely he had a passion for life a joie de vivre joie de vivre joie de vivre joie de vivre you know he loved the the finest things in life Hitler was of course more of an an ascetic man yes he spurned you know he's vegetarian supposedly sexless if you'd like to believe the revisionist tripe that channel 4 put out these days more of a stoic yes he's a stoic but he also embodied the struggle of the nation famously his words I'm quoting I must stress that a lot of the times I'm quoting but I don't say I'm quoting your honour we won't have to edit in air quotes for you we'll do some pickups just do this six times but as in Hitler was he was a health obsessive Goering was a cream bun obsessive he loved never get a photo of him up when he's at his fattest charlie yeah i don't think anyone's ever looked like they enjoy profiteroles more there look at that one there on the top screen that's crazy yeah there he is he's loving it oh he's fucking oh hello standing to attention he's almost like a he's like a capital d shape that's the thing about the german fatness is it's around so i feel sometimes british fat people there's a sloppiness there the German it's the tight belly there's a shape yeah it's the Pilsner it's Pilsner and it's pork yeah and you know I think we've said this before but there is a it's also in the Goering case it's hard drugs yes but you can be fat in a graceful way in a cartoonish way and you can be fat in a way that makes it seem like your character is poor your character is oh right yes which is when it's like spilling over the side of a mobility scooter when it's documentary fat yeah not a cartoon cartoon rotund If you're fat, I should be able to quickly draw your body shape in about five seconds.
8:37I should be able to go like this. Nope. Done. You're a snowman.
8:41Fin:You're a snowman. Two circles. You're two circles. Done. You should have no more complications than that. But when there's the mobility scooter and there's the sides coming down, and then there's the basket with all the Doritos in it. Well, I think Göring was maybe saved by his execution from the mobility scooter. I think maybe the head... To be fair... It's easy to judge the headiness positively at his pomp. yes you know the final years of the hedonist i think maybe don't look as good charlie what have you found that's a very fat man on the screen i think this is the fattest german ever and his name is very old this is around nazi time his name is h feig 1923 so this is sort of weimar wow if you're fat in weimar germany yeah he's got a he's got a impressive there is that the bulge of the trousers goes out further than the bulge of the how do you go to the toilet this man does not have man boobs he has a sort of gunt yeah he has a real yeah that's the biggest fupa i've ever seen um uh for people who don't know what that is that's a fat upper pussy area so is that what it is yeah what did you think it was no i thought i i knew i didn't think it was pussy i thought it was um pubic oh i always don't think it's fat upper pussy area type in what fupa is let's find this out right now i think you're getting confused pubic area yeah i don't think there's you know i'm not a biologist famously i don't think there's a pussy area you know i think there's a pubic area and then below that is a pussy right maybe we can't we can't know sometimes i look at people though this fact i don't know what's down there i mean whether it's a cock or a pussy he has no way of knowing he doesn't know so how should i know you know you get you do get to a certain way and you are gender neutral.
10:25Fin:Yeah. Anyway. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, on a botulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk.
10:58Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.
11:51eligibility vary by state. Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox. Start today at equinox.com.
12:09Fin:Let's get into the story of Hermann Goering, the man who was in charge of the Luftwaffe. His mother, Fanny, came from a Bavarian peasant family. His father, Heineich Goering was a high-ranking German diplomat and colonial official who had spent time in Haiti. What did he do in there? Well, do you remember when we did Papa Doc? In the run-up, there was a large, in World War I, you know, the Germans were trying to, they were getting bothered in the Caribbean. Blutclat, all that. Herman did not meet his parents until he was three. Not to, you know, strip him of agency. But you're saying there's something Freudian going on.
12:45Fin:Very traumatic childhood. Very traumatic childhood. He got shouted on while he was on the loo. and that's why I did all the Nazi stuff. We can't know. We can't know. Now, the family ultimately depends on the largesse of Herman's godfather, a man called Herman Eppenstein. Excuse me? Excuse me? Come again. Herman Eppenstein, who was a wealthy Jewish businessman. Excuse me? History does not repeat, but it rhymes. Oh, what's the poem? Eppenstein's Island, a wealthy Jewish businessman. who is fucking Herman Eppenstein and what did he do for fun crucially yeah it's a long line isn't it this is the long road to Little St.
13:28Fin:James so oh wow now do you know what we're going to look at a photo of him now terrified man but when I've when I've been looking at the Epstein files that have been released just to double check I'm not in this release yeah the there's interviews of him where he's fully cross-eyed who Jeffrey Epstein yeah he's lost a lot of aura would you say Because I went into a shop in Regent Street and I genuinely said to the guy, I said, I don't want it to sound weird. I want to dress like Jeffrey Epstein. What? Because I think he dressed brilliantly. Who did you say that to? Personal shopper in Regent Street.
14:03Fin:Because I think he looks... I think he dressed really well. Is that a joke? No. I think he dressed really well. You've got a personal shopper to look like Jeffrey. he dressed really well point is that on tiktok i get a lot of um clips that are like old money yeah old money style right yeah and i find it very aspirational and when i look at all the photos of jeffrey epstein play the sound my face above the water
14:36Fin:like it is a it's a it's a vibe it's undeniably undeniably the man dressed well wave after wave slowly drifting but the man dressed well you know he had a very kind of casual rich preppy style I think his deposition that came up pretty early he held a lot of aura because it was like this he had his glasses like this and he was being asked about Peter Philly and he was actually like why are you wasting my time that had aura but then his Steve Bannon one he's like oh I suck and he becomes he becomes like a Woody Allen I know Jewish character what am I meant to do yeah exactly completely lost his aura yeah there's that second one there Charlie that one he's cross-eyed he's got shit glasses because he looks like Anthony Bourdain but then when you see him he's like oh yeah well I like 14 year old in photos he looks very attractive jawline dress well in this video that we're watching now it is like you've gone you've gone make Anthony Bourdain a bit pedo and someone's just gone well let's just close his eyes and he's like and you realize he's you can see that he's a nerd like he used to be like a he was like a maths teacher yeah you know and he's always hanging out with like academics you know he just loves such science and stuff yeah yeah no so we used to be fans of epstein but this latest um this latest drop uh we've lost a lot of respect for jeffrey epstein yeah undoubtedly undoubtedly there's less good things about him than there were um uh anyway to be admired yes yeah yeah uh look he was i want to look like i could run a sex trafficking ring but not do it yeah yeah yeah and he did it he dressed with class for sure he did and he had vacation homes.
16:11There's much... Do Jeffrey Epstein fashion. There's a couple of really good looks.
16:13Fin:There's much in Jeffrey Epstein's life to aspire to. Yeah. Like what? Like fashion. I love this fit. This is such a casual... It's sort of like, what is it, JFK Jr. He carries the torch of JFK Jr., I think. It's just that sort of old money, classic, understated style. Look at that. So I just really like that. Nice blue wash jeans and a casual shirt. It doesn't mean... You don't need to make it... Dad tuck. Yeah, you don't need to make it complicated you know just make sure every piece is high quality yeah and also but it's it should look relaxed on you yeah yeah it shouldn't be you shouldn't be trying too hard scroll up i mean this one's great scroll up scroll up has anyone had a better night oh look at these two look at these two uh well i um that's some moreoski christmas party yeah i mean i can imagine that some people some girls off screen are having a pretty bad night no but let's just you know let's not let's not get bogged down in the details they're having a brilliant night you're both wearing those shirts how amazing do you feel when you both when you've both said we're going to wear the shirt and you've seen each other the first time they're clean you smell amazing it's clinton it's epstein they're in shiny african shirts and they're just having a great time is is that a crime yes it turns out it is yeah it turns out it is but epenstein well goring and Epstein were both hedonists.
17:31Yes, they were. There is a link.
17:33Fin:Can we call it hedonism? Yeah, I'd say it's hedonism. Well, I guess one man's hedonism is another girl's... He wasn't a stoic paedophile. No. No. No. He was a hedonist. Of course he was. Wild paedophile. Wild man. Greedy. No, he's greedy. Yeah, he was. He's incredibly greedy. You know what? He was a glutton. I read all this stuff and I think, where the fuck did you do all this financing? Because your day seems to be mainly back-to-back massages from 14-year-olds. I mean, it's amazing how well organized his calendar must be. Efficient. Yeah. Yeah. Extraordinary. Anyway, we're talking about Herman Goering, whose godfather, Herman Eppenstein, a sort of early forward.
18:09Fin:My point was, there was a photo that Charlie got up of Herman Eppenstein, and he looked cross-eyed. He looks a bit like David Mitchell. Much like Epstein did in his deposition. That was why I'm talking about Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, he looks like, I mean, he looks like a pedo more than Jeffrey Epstein does. Are you Epstein's lawyer? i'm not alan dershowitz um although i'd like i'd like to meet the man i think if this podcast ever goes down we could use we could use dershowitz i think that's the only lawyer is this the worst person who's ever lived yeah i'll defend them yeah yeah yeah um anyway they should have got dershowitz at nureberg that would have been interesting i think i think he just born slightly too late.
18:49Yeah.
18:50Fin:Goering was a very intelligent boy, always loved the military and he graduates from a military academy with a distinction. What is it, Charlie? Goering was forced to walk around the school yard with a sign attached to his neck stating my godfather is a Jew about this guy. About Eppenstein? Yeah. Who forced him? Was he bullied at school? I think he was bullied at school. That's interesting. Fat and Jewish. No, there's nothing funny about that. That's very sad. That's awful. This podcast is anti-bullying. Yeah. Okay. Obviously, this is serious topics being covered. You should have done a trigger warning.
19:24Trigger warning. Bullying will be mentioned during this episode. Yeah.
19:30Fin:If you're listening to this and you're a bully, turn it off. This isn't for you. All right. This is a podcast where we explore the style of Jeffrey Epstein and nothing else about him. We have no time for bullying. We have no time for bullying. Stamp it out. Okay. you know be kind that's the motto of this podcast be kind to everyone whether they're you know a school a fat school kid nazi or jeffrey epstein yeah you know everyone deserves to be treated the same pedophiles nazis you know come on come on yeah don't speak ill of the dead sorry kill himself i mean is there any grave of sin to speak you know the dead anyway um so 1914 114, we get to the First World War.
20:18Fin:Herman manages to escape any serious injury. It should be stressed at this point, he's not fat. He's quite a dashing young man. He's a very, very attractive man. Look at young Goring, bit of a fucking sexy piece of ass. Let the dog see the rabbit. Young Goring, he's mountain climbing. He's a hell of a jawline on him. Ultra pilot. He's got very piercing eyes. Something he never loses is his very piercing eyes. The window's become a bit fatter, but the piercing eyes, the view from there is astonishing. what a great man friend of the two very fashionable men we've talked about so far for different ways a young gering fashion does not discriminate okay you can you can be a man accused of terrible crimes but look good doing it yeah you know or you can be gavin plum yeah the double whammy that's the other side of the coin let's get gavin plums fits up yeah let's do a man a man who and clearly you know good i think if you're dressing well you're actually going to commit terrible crimes.
21:15Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
21:17Fin:Because Gavin Plum was wearing a massive Batman t-shirt and then couldn't even be arsed to get out the sofa and genuinely attack anyone. Whereas Herman Goering, he woke up early, he got dressed and he thought, do you know what? I am enough. Yeah. I am enough and I'll go to work today. And yeah, I haven't got a portfolio, but I'll fucking make one. Porkfolio more like. He's got a large minister with porkfolio. Porkpolio. Anyway. He's hobbling in. Hobbling in. Who's that? Oh, Herman's here. Yeah, the minister for Port Polio. Anyway, so he goes to the trenches and he gets rheumatism, which he has hospitalized.
21:54Fin:And it's while he's hospitalized that his friend convinces him to become his observer for flying recon missions, which now, as we discussed in our flight history series, World War I is where planes really get going. And so he starts... Over the course of the war, I imagine. Yeah, so he trains, he gets pilot training. He's appointed to the Jagdstafel Fonf, which means the hunting squadron. And he's seriously wounded in the hip during an aerial dogfight. It takes a year to recover. But by February 17, Goering is back in the air. He's back in the air, flying. He's back. The fat man is flying. But he's not fat by this point.
22:30He's not fat, crucially.
22:31Fin:He genuinely would not have fit in a World War I plane five years later. Yeah, it would have crashed. Yeah. And he demonstrates amazing skill. He's one of the hottest air races that the Germans have in World War I. Yeah, fucking look at that. He gets the Iron Cross. He received the Zechlingleien, the Friedrich Order, the House of Order of Hans Alom, and he receives the much-coveted Polar Merit. Now, towards the tail end of the war, he becomes the last commander of the Red Baron's Flying Circus, or as it's known in German, the Jagd-Schwaggeleid, which are the colourful planes that they caused a lot of damage to the Allies.
23:12Fin:So they were the best air force in World War I? I think so. The best fighter pilots probably. They'd been commanded by Baron von Richthofen the Red Baron. Which we covered in the flight series but he had 80 air combat victories. And he was so it's called the Flying Circus because they'd carry the multicoloured planes on trains and set up in a field like a travelling circus. yeah Goering is do they have like bearded ladies flying the planes and stuff no no it wasn't that sort it wasn't like a Zippo's thing midgets and gypsies no I think famously famously not they weren't included no yeah it's a good point actually would Zippo's circus how much of them would the Nazis have tolerated yeah maybe the sword swallower maybe is one of the only people to make it out alive yeah lion tamer maybe Goering finishes the war with 22 claimed kills only 17 of which were confirmed um um and uh now the end of world war one from the german perspective is uh it's quite surprising because world war one is not like world war two in that world war two you know the war comes to you wherever you are world war one it's happening in a distant field it's like amazon prime yeah world war two yeah just you see name it will be there i'd like yeah i'd like that house bombed tomorrow oh wow brilliant great world war one is you're meeting at like a sort of neutral venue you're meeting like wembley well it's like if you're a citizen if you're not in the army it's sort of like Glastonbury in the distant field and people come back and they've covered in mud they're covered in mud and they've got smelly feet and they're talking about their experience you know shut up how life changing their experience shut up stop whining get back to work um anyway uh but world war one kind of uh sort of ends suddenly because the germans basically just run out of machinery and stuff and they're knackered uh they're not necessarily defeated the way they are in World War II.
25:04Fin:Yes. So many veterans, including Hitler, start subscribing to this stab in the back myth. Can you just find out what it is in German? Because it's quite a funny German word. Stab in the back.
25:16Fin:There's a German word for everything. It sounds like every German word sounds like they're saying stab in the back. So I can't imagine what. It's the Dolstossenzender, which is a conspiracy theory that the German army wasn't defeated militarily, but betrayed by commies and Jews on the home front. The enemy within. The enemy within. Goering sees himself as a part as part of a right wing institution linked to groups like the steel helmet faction. That's one of the sex clubs that Charlie goes to. Quite early on, he's knocking about early 20s Germany. Crazy time. The 20s in Germany are crazy. And he's hating this.
25:53Yeah. 20s. It's like everyone's like non-binary blue. Yeah. Smoking cigarettes is jazz. Yeah. and he's
26:00Fin:yeah he's a fucking is he pull yourself together sign your badges sort of vibe yeah he's me nowadays yeah he worked for a Swedish airline in 1920-21 now he's hired to fly a man called Erik von Rosen back to his castle and where he gets there this is supposedly when he sees a swastika for the first time so in the film is this like oh what is this oh swastika huh swast and this is where he meets his first wife, Karen von Kanzau. Anyway, he leaves Sweden. Then we get to the seminal meeting. You know, this is first 20 minutes of the film. Oppenheimer meets Einstein. Oppenheimer and Einstein. It's Ant meets Deke.
26:42So I didn't mean to add a bit of Jewish stank on Einstein, I feel.
Read the full transcript
26:45Fin:Einstein. Einstein. Because as soon as you say Stein, it feels like... Stein. It's something a bit like, it makes you feel uncomfortable when someone leans into the Stein. It's weird that a German for pint is Stein, isn't it? can i have a pint and stein something's going on something's going on there oh look at that charlie's got a photo up of the boys look at that and now this is a bit later but it looks looking quite dashing actually why are you saying that surprise no i just you don't normally see him uh kind of on a hole with a holiday sort of suit on no even when he's a suit even when he's up in the eagles nest or uh the band where where does he holiday that's just garden yeah he's still uniform but you don't see him dressed like the man from Havana.
27:28Fin:Look at his pleated pants. And then this is quite a good photo that we're looking at now. This is obviously a bit later because Herman's very, very, very fat at this point. He's dressed in... He's leaning on his own fatness. He's dressed in plus two. He's got a hunting dagger and he's got a big waistcoat and he's jolly. And Hitler's obviously the romantic lead. Yes. He's the action hero. Yeah, he's Humphrey Bogart in Classe Blanca. Yeah, and Hergurin's like James Corden just hanging out of the back. he's John Candy you know if it's if the Nazis are bridesmaids he's Melinda McCarthy yeah yeah yeah Melissa McCarthy what was the name yeah Hitler's custom wig yeah Hitler's custom wig Hitler's the dashing romantic lead and then so Goering meets Hitler at a Nazi party rally in 22 and obviously Hitler's a kind of this is this wild card you know he's this he doesn't have a lot of clout failed painter with a tiny dick allegedly but Goering is an actual war hero He's a flying ace.
28:25Fin:And so when he joins the Nazi party, he gives the Nazis a lot of legitimacy. Suddenly they're not just these mad fuckers. These incels, yeah. You've got... They've got an Alpha Chad. You've got an Alpha Chad, right? So Goering gets appointed to lead the SA, which is Hitler's paramilitary organisation. And then we get to the Beer Hall Putsch, 1923, where Hitler, inspired by Mussolini's march on Rome, tries to overthrow the Weimar government. We talked about this in our Rise of the Nazi series, which you can find on Patreon, along with a lot of Nazi content. Yes, and memorabilia. Memorabilia. I have just bought a, well, it's a World War II watch.
28:59Do you want to show us?
29:01Fin:Shout out to the Patreons. One of the Patreons is a watch dealer and he found this and he said, do you want it? And I said, yes, and I bought it off. So that's a, explain what that watch is. It's a German World War II Navy watch. Okay. It's a standard issue. Yeah. There's no insignia or symbols on it, so you can relax. Okay, but we don't know who wore, we have no idea who wore that watch during the war. I've got a fair idea who wore it. It's a historical artifact. If you would, the patron is a marketplace for ideas and Nazi memorabilia. So if you've got anything you'd like to exchange, swap, all good prices on there.
29:38Fin:It's a sort of crackling black market for Nazi memorabilia. You know, it's more than just bonus podcasts. It's a community. Of like-minded individuals. It's a community of traders. You know, they've got Pokemon cards. They've got Nazi watches. You know, whatever. whatever you want well quite specific well you have to want something very specific anyway I'm going to a wedding on Saturday and the groom is South African white South African so I figure it'll give me something to talk about with his relatives what do you mean by that is that you basically saying if they say something super racist you can check this out you could be like all about this yeah give me your trump card my trump card my ace in the hole yeah well they try and big dick you with how racist they are I'm like fucking sit down I've got an artsy to watch what's the time yeah nazi time um anyway so hitler uh and goering and his allies they have this plan to seize power in bavaria and march on berlin so they burst into a beer hall in munich and they fire a pistol into the ceiling declare revolution no one really everyone's like yeah all right mate we're just we're just having some beers and they march 9th of november they march through munich and they reached the Feldenhala, which I've been to.
30:49Fin:It's an amazing town square. Anyway. And it was on an organised tour. Yeah. Were you leading the tour? No. You make it sound like I've gone on some kind of hajj to Munich. No, you make it sound like you've been on some sort of hajj to Munich. Seeing as every night at this place, you're like, yes, I've been there. It's a lovely spot for lunch just outside there. There is. There is a nice spot for lunch. can we go um can we do muslims crying when seeing harj for the first time can we get video that please this is me this is you at the birds the eagle's nest right yeah it is um this is you seeing the spot of hitler's bunker
31:33this has been uh going to the spot where hitler's bunker was yep i'm holding my my um my nazi prayer beads i'm in my i'm in my clobber um i'm taking time
31:46Fin:off work you gotta do you gotta do it once in your life really you gotta the five pillars five pillars of being a history fan um it's a very emotional moment i guess it is anyway they reach feldenhaler the police open fire 14 nazis are killed hitler is knocked over desiccates his shoulder. The putsch collapses. Hitler's imprisoned. Goering gets shot in the groin. Devastating. Oh, my God. The amount this man's been through. A direct hit to the fupa. Right. He then escapes and goes to Austria. And so this is where, in recovering from his fupa bullet wound, which is not a slang for vagina, he develops a lifelong addiction to morphine, which will only end when the Nuremberg trial trial makes him go clean right which is why he's so slim in the trial footage oh right he's kicked the morphine habit okay so it's like rehab yeah exactly rehab where you get killed at the end that's why yeah yeah it's not really rehab it's not trial for war crimes it's anyway so he leaves hospital uh christmas eve 23 moves to italy meets mussolini um you know there's just some ideas is bouncing around.
32:58Fin:They're just chewing the fat. Anyway. The great minds of the age. In terms of the Reistag fire, when the Nazis come to power, the Goering, I think, obviously there's a Dutch communist called Marius van der Luber. We've talked about Looby. Old Looby Looby Looby. We've talked Looby Loobieson, but he gets blamed for the fire. But there's a point in Nuremberg where Goering says, well, yeah, I started the fire. So there's kind of a, no one ever really knows how involved he is. It's quite clear the Nazis did it, so it could have been Goring. Yeah. I think it was Herman Eppenstein yeah I think he's behind everybody yeah it all rose back to Eppenstein yeah anyway this obviously transforms Germany into dictatorship and so Goering is then appointed minister for pork polio in Hitler's first cabinet Goering creates the Gestapo and this is where Goering really starts to you know his personality starts to come out yeah he is he's the fun Nazi he's the high living you know he liked to call himself the Eisen the Iron Man, but he steadily gains weight, gluttony, fueled by a morphine addiction, which is not, you know, morphine's not...
34:02Yeah, heroin addicts are normally pretty rock star bars.
34:05Fin:Yeah, so what's going on with getting fat on morphine? Because I've always thought at some point morphine's my out. Right, if you ever get too big. If I'm getting too guring, I'm going to get addicted to something else. Get a smack and I'm out. So why it slows metabolism, increases cravings for high fat and sugary foods? Maybe I'm already on morphine though. Yeah, maybe. And reduced discrepancy. Maybe you've been microdosing morphine your whole life. Anyway, he does start to look like a capital D. But he also... He didn't mind jokes about himself. Which is not very Nazi, is he? It's not very Nazi.
34:37Fin:No, he's got a sense of humour about himself. Yeah, that's why it's easier to kind of get in with this guy. And you just, you know, just to give our thick listeners a sort of vivid portrait of the... Imagine you're all the boys are all there, you know. You're all in your uniforms. The girl comes up and he just... Starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times. Your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks, and lists can easily begin to overrun your life. So finding the right tool that not only helps you out, but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer.
35:08For millions of businesses, that tool is Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10 % of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Gymshark, Rare Beauty, and Heinz, to brands just getting started. Shopify has hundreds of ready-to-use templates that can help you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand's style. And you can tackle all the important tasks in one place, from inventory to payments to analytics and more. No need to save multiple websites or try to figure out what platform is hosting the tool that you need.
35:44And if people haven't heard about your brand, you can get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you with easy-to-run email and social media campaigns to reach customers wherever they're scrolling or strolling. Start your business today with the industry's best business partner, Shopify, and start hearing... Sign up for your$1 per month trial today at shopify.com slash realm. Go to shopify.com slash realm. That's shopify.com slash realm. I get so many headaches every month. It could be chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more. Botox, Autobotulinum Toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine.
36:28It's not for those who have 14 or fewer headache days a month. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection.
36:57Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.
37:40eligibility vary by state. Just pat on his belly. And he's loving it.
37:44Fin:Oh, hello! Oh, you be careful, sir! Oh, bad day to be a beer! Order Joe! Yes, there's always a... The joke does always stop at some point. He's a flamboyant hedonist, he drinks, eats, and now he collects art, which we'll get into on the Patreon. So he's got taste and class as well as being a fat pig. Yes. There's no need to call Herman Goering a fat pig. Sorry. He was bullied as a child. I don't know why I'm bringing this stuff up for him stop bullying this podcast is anti-bullying nazis nazis and convicted uh pedophile financiers um if you if you're going to hang them out to dry at least give them a compliment sandwich yeah you know you dressed very well you're a disgusting pedophile yeah but i do you know your your vacation homes look lovely yeah you had a great property portfolio yeah do you know what is it that hard is it that hard for the sake of a man's mental health to give him a compliment now uh the fat pig's uh wife karen dies young and he names his estate karen hall in her memory karen hall will be the place where a band of brothers easy company finds which has got all his wine cells and it's just kind of mystical uh it's on a lake it's this mad sort of mansion so all the stolen art goes there yeah it's very high it's all now in 1935 Wine collection, is that all?
39:03Yeah, huge wine collection. That's what we talked about with the GLB episode, right? Yeah.
39:06Fin:Now in 1935, Going remarries an actress called Emmy Zonneman in a spectacular, you know, state-style ceremony in Berlin. Who's his best man? Hitler. Hitler's best... Hitler's your best man. The best man speech. Blunt! I'm going to get started and I'm going to get started! And all the guests are there like... Who was your best man? My mate Leo from university. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm sure it was great, but... It was great. it was great you know but it wasn't it could have been amazing i could have got like a hologram like a two-pack hologram but it's hitler doing the speech hitler's your best man it's your best man you're you know the best man's speech is he telling stories about what you were like back in the day like how funny is hitler's best man speech i think it i think it's hard to think of him is he cracking jokes but then he's relaxed it's not it this is with amongst friends yeah is he still going on is he still doing hankery cranky yeah does Hitler have the comedy in him can you type in was Hitler considered funny by anyone based on historical analysis Hitler was not known for having a humorous personality but rather for being intense paranoid and prone to explosive for ages alright AI overview maybe he makes that way where he's like he's really annoyed because the wife is so gorgeous he's like fuming do you know what I love is that when so I've done you always have to say if you're at a wedding someone always has to say and don't the bridesmaids look lovely today?
40:33Fin:And the idea that...
40:39Fin:Someone always has to say it and it's normally the best man because if the groom says it, it's a bit... I had to say it at my wedding because my best man forgot. Right. But then I had to lean into how sort of pervy it sounds because... Yeah. I mean, how do you... Because you're there talking about how much you love your wife and how they look good. Fuck it. Fuck it. Look at the bridesmaids. My God, they dressed up nice. Yeah. anyway and also one of my wife bridesmaids I had when my wife and I were friends and not together she'd like pushed her her one of her friends in front of me as kind of a human shield so I'd I'd go on a date with her right so you've got to be careful you've got to be quick and don't the bridesmaids look lovely you can't be like don't the bridesmaids look lovely
41:24woo
41:25Fin:look at the bridesmaids yeah fucking hell what are we talking about Where are we? Where are we? You can't be like Cat Williams. Brat shit. Brat's mates be looking fine. Looking fine. Look at these fine motherfucking brats mates. Shit. Yeah, you can't. You can't. Damn. You can't. Jesus. Anyway. Lordy, Lord. You should be going, Lord, give me strength. The brats mates. And then you just sit down and go, anyway, here's to the wife. Anyway, right. So, but Hitler is, yes, you have to say the bridesmaids look lovely. Yeah. So imagine Hitler said that. Yeah. You normally have to thank people for coming.
42:08Fin:You don't guess who've come a long way. Do we know any other big guests? Well, I imagine it was all the Nazis. It was all the boys. Yeah, it was the boys. And then obviously Hitler had to organize the stag do. Yeah, I mean, God, what are they doing? Paintballing? Yeah, do you want Hitler organizing it? He's not the organizing guy. Who do you want being the guy who does the stag do? Axe throwing at Jews? I mean, what's the Nazi stag do? So when picking your best man, how much are you thinking about the organisation of the stag do? Because I feel a lot of the time there's the clear best man, but it's not always the perfect man to organise the stag do, right?
42:42But then that's just something you have to accept. You have to play it as it lies.
42:46Fin:Charlie's got Eichmann up. I mean, in many ways, Eichmann is Goering's polar opposite. You know, Eichmann is a boring, drab functionary who, yeah, you're right, is logistics. He makes it work. Goering is all vibes and Goering's Goering's driving to Calais to get the wine for the wedding yeah he's doing a jolly but is Eichmann going to organise a statue with enough wow factor no but you want an element of Goering's booking the strippers right Eichmann's booking the pub Eichmann's letting them know there's going to be strippers so just calm down yeah Eichmann's putting the deposit down in his name sure Goering's made it go in Eichmann's name so if anything fucks up it's his name that does it yeah they're the boys yeah so he's known for overeating and drinking heavily um meals at karen hall would last for hours uh he prefers traditional german aristocratic cuisine charlie can we just google what that is i'm surprised you haven't and a pronounced sweet you ask what everyone eats yeah um several accounts mentioned him snacking on chocolates between meals i mean this is this is what does go and eat right because it's like it's the most stereotypically fat german is to have a meal and then to just chocolate like just like my personal love of chocolate genuinely i don't want it too complicated i like lint milk chocolate i like it to feel like a nazi is teasing me that what chocolate would they get out if they're like and so if you want to tell me the information would you like a piece of chocolate you know what would he pull out it'd be like a plain bar of milk chocolate wouldn't it yes you know what i mean you know what i mean like that that is the the german chocolate is kind of what i like the most uh so his favorite dish supposedly was uh vietnamese schnitzel um his favorite restaurant horror is that still let's book it now christmas party they later moved to madrid interesting but chocolates in between meals.
44:43Fin:He alternates between, he obviously balloons up and down. Is Hawke, they're still there? Yeah, still there. It's still there. 4.6 out of 5. Top jaw. Let's see how it's gone. Let's go on images. That's where I'm going. If top jaw, if I ever do a top jaw interview, I'm like, yeah, you've got to check this place out. Go to the next favorite restaurant. Looks lovely. Yeah, you can see this sort of, yeah. Yeah, it's table side, silver service, white tablecloths. You know, I always, even if I'm not drinking, I have to have chocolate after a meal you got to not after a meal that's mad at the end of the day not after every meal breakfast chocolate yeah see like the one kebab with Augustus Clute that's what I've that's going yeah so he's obviously massively into art which we'll get into on the Patreon now his clothing is phenomenal because he promotes himself to Rice Marshall in 1940 a rank created specifically for him and what he likes about this is he gets to design his own uniform um so all the fucking medals yeah uh sashes germans or head of the army had like a baton which is quite it's quite a gay thing to i've got a little stick which means i'm the head of the whatever but he would he'd walk around waving his little stick and he'd customize it himself with like jewels what like like when you put widgets and crocs you know there's like yeah it is like that it is um he would uh or have ornamental cloaks capes uh he's a big fan of fancy dress, silk dressing gowns, velvet embroidery.
46:11Fin:You know, you see the photo of Epstein and Harvey Weinstein and Ghislaine. It's a good time. It's a pass. Fucking, it's a good time. It's a good time. You know, is that criminal now, ladies? No one's being judgmental there, are they? Nah. Look at this. Yeah, come on. You can say some pretty loose things with this lot. Nah, I'm having a great time with this lot. I'm having a great time. Weinstein's in a tux. Epstein's got the Gaddafi sailor suit on. Ghislaine's got a big old fucking - Venetian mask. Venetian mask. you know they're having a laugh yeah I mean I think small talk would be fun with them you know yeah you're skipping small talk you know space is there come on can a man not have mates anyway so there's photos of him in like a medieval hunting costume the Italian foreign minister once noted Gering was wearing a fur coat that looked like what a high grade prostitute would wear that's funny he changed costumes several times throughout the evenings that's okay so he's like a it's like a chick basically but goering is a kind of if you know as a nazi archetype i think is the sort of the intelligent highly intelligent yeah pleasure loving cunning evil genius yeah that's that's that's goering you know the other ones hitler is obviously cranky shranky shnanky yeah and then himler is like a sort of snotty little swat also he's probably neurotypical wasn't he and the rest they all seem to have something cooking yes there's a lot of adhd do there's a lot of autism he seems to be one of the only people who's cooking clean in that sense not in actual sense he's cooking with a lot of butter i imagine um so now for uh the crucial thing in charlie what have you just googled down syndrome nazis did you find anything um no right we'll keep looking we'll keep looking don't worry breaking news breaking news we found a down syndrome nazi um anyway uh now It doesn't really work, though.
48:04Fin:No, it doesn't. Because they're nice. Also, Nazis famously exterminated Down Syndrome. I think it's more the other way around. Yeah. Yeah. But not Down Syndrome people. The question would be, did any Down Syndrome person in Nazi Germany trying to avoid being killed manage to sneak in and blend in? That's the real question. Did one of them slip through the cracks? He looks like he could be Down Syndrome. A Down Syndrome Nazi just at the end of the line, like this. just eating ice cream.
48:36Fin:Yeah. We can't know. We can't know, but we can hazard a guess. So we need to, for the sake of the rest of this series, we need to get to the Luftwaffe because this is the crucial, the crucial thing Göring does is that he is put in charge of the initially secret rearmament program. So in the Treaty of Versailles, no planes are allowed, which is why they start producing rockets. which we dealt with in our space race series. V1 and V2 ended up coming out. So in 1935, the Luftwaffe has been started secretly, but it's now publicly acknowledged with Goering as the Reich Aviation Minister. Yeah. I think as everyone's getting ready for war, they're like, the next war's going to be fought in the air big time.
49:21Fin:World War I, there have been Zeppelin raids and dropping bombs from Zeppelins. Quite a lot of bombs on London in World War I that I didn't realise. Yeah. Now, the whole point of the Luftwaffe is that it's speed and it's meant to secure air superiority that allows the Blitzkrieg to happen. So it will attack enemy forces, infrastructure, industry. The Luftwaffe, also the bombers, are part of the Luftwaffe as well, right? Yeah, the Luftwaffe just means the air force. At the start of the war, Germany has just over 4 ,000 aircraft. They've got the bombers, they've got the fighters, the Messerschmitts, they've got the dive bombers the Stuckers we'll get into all this with Al Murray who I will warn you now the Stuckers in World War 1 no I don't think so he knows a lot about machinery women hold onto your pants in the next episode it might be too much for us even they're flying off it might be like maybe I'm gayer than I thought I was yeah we might we might come out as non-binary Al Murray was going to outstrait us and I'm worried that I might be a bit bi actually because even for me, the amount that he knows about World War II machinery is too much.
50:34Fin:So I don't want to, I'm just putting a trigger warning out there now alongside the bullying contained in this discussion. Have some sort of moistening agent to make sure that you don't have a permanently dry vagina. For life. For life. Terminal dry vag. You're going to have to be constantly moisturizing down there because I think you can actually damage it. Yeah, it could fully close up with the amount of machinery that's going to be discussed in the next part. Against my will, I will say. I will do my best to try and get Al onto the narrative and the characters. I only put loads of salt on an oyster.
51:07Fin:It's like killing a slug.
51:11Fin:Anyway, so the loved vaffa is Goering's baby. And Goering and Hitler, you know, Ant and Deck, fish and chips, strawberries and cream. yeah they're the boys yeah they're best mates yeah right and crouch and defo and crouch big man little man um so uh the invasion of poland begins on the first september 39 as we know that day hitler names goering his official successor so he is number two he's number two yeah and i guess that's how important the air force is that the head of the air force is number two and the whole system. Well I think the Air Force is the most Nazi part of the army. Because they're like eagles it's like you know it just feels very like they're clueless guys.
52:00Fin:Because they're Goering's guys. Right so I think this is another thing I said to my wife to justify the watch in terms of the sort of passionate Nazis Air Force was the most then the army then the actual navy who weren't that bothered. Navy's a bit gay. Yes, exactly. Do you know what I mean? It's a gay watch. Yes. Yeah. So. You're like an ally. This is LGBT, isn't it? Me at Gay Pride. Yeah, look. I like you lot. I like you lot. I love the culture. I got a Creed's ring watch. It's a Nazi Navy watch. It's a Nazi watch, but it's from the Navy. You know. You know what they say? In the Navy. Exactly.
52:42Fin:Yeah. So, the Luftwaffe is one of the world's most advanced air forces by 39 uh the stucker dive bomber which uh is terrifying the sound of it it's where the tie fighter from star wars noise comes from terrifying uh terrifying this would basically just go into a full dive and bomb at a very low um altitude and the luftfaffer operations are decisive in uh poland and norway and belgium in particular um there's uh what are these two missions in particular that oh scary do you know what the way back from my gig last night oh yeah yeah oh that is scary i mean i mean women's drying up on my ass is tingling at that loosening that's you know that's like me when um uh when i see a curry menu that's the noise my stomach's making
53:42Fin:there are these two operations at the start of the war that are um very very terrifying for the allies uh not the gay allies yes we should say in world war ii there are call yourself an ally yeah where's your flag can i be part of the axis can we make that thing what is the opposite of the opposite of the allies you already are finn yeah like i did in my in my bio right i'm axis axis yeah um anyway so uh there are these two particular victories uh now there's the uh the one in norway where the german paratroopers or in german they basically just fall out the sky and seize these airfields uh which means that they that's the reason why they're able to take norway despite the massive British Navy.
54:29Fin:Because we did this in the Dunkirk series. Superiority. Yeah, they just drop troops behind all the mountainous terrain and take the airfields. Then they control Norway, which kind of cuts out the middle man with the Navy. There's also this impregnable fort in Belgium, which I guess is, it sounds like a tautology, but Fort Eben-Email. Sounds like a big chocolate cake. Massive stack of profiteroles or something. Anyway, this one, they, again, the paratroopers fall from the sky at night and then they they all have special bombs depth charges or whatever and they blow all the guns out of the fort and then when the infantry arrive it's kind of unprotected and they can take it but this is the first time that that like they're showing that you don't have to just do a siege yes even in World War I like the siege of Verdun it was all very traditional 4-4-2 yes you know two banks of four so this is 4-3-3 this is more fluid this is kind of Dutch this is going this is total football it's total warfare it's flying the right back in and suddenly the right back's through in front of goal and I think in Poland I don't know which maybe it was Warsaw that they like levelled with bombs from the air and that was basically the first time that had really happened like that that was a complete annihilation of a city and no one had ever seen anything quite like it in any war that level of destruction so the Luftwaffe is you know Goering's loving it he's a culture man he's loving it the Luftwaffe is his thing yeah and i think he sees the luftwaffe as the main reason for all the early success um because they're you know there's infighting between the three the nazis uh the navy the air force and the army yeah they're never they're never they're all vying for hitler's attention and attention and going like well you i made you my best man yeah so um so for the spring 1940 campaigns uh You know, the fall of France is the kind of peak of Luftwaffe's prestige.
56:25Fin:In six weeks, Germany shatters Europe's strongest land army. We dealt with this in Dunkirk. The French were mainly underground eating cheese and drinking wine. But the Luftwaffe made that blitzkrieg possible because it destroys all the bridges and rail hubs. It disrupts communications. It basically strafes positions so that then this quick mechanized vehicles can come through. and so this is where Goering starts to get very high on his own supply he's also on morphine he's high on a supply of morphine and cream and pork but their role in collapsing France feeds this belief that air power alone can break any opponent what is it Charlie?
57:09Fin:if you're on morphine while doing a war because you know it makes you feel like very euphoric morphine yeah morphine what is that would it not make you kind of think I should fuck off the war should stop no it's not MDMA yeah it's not I love you like me I fucking love you it's not Nazism on MDMA let's just chill I hate you I hate you I'm gonna kill you man yeah no you're not bayoneting your entire race man if the Nazis were all on MDMA then I would imagine they'd just I'm gonna stop the war they'd just played football well yeah but that's what that guy that historian who wrote Blitz yeah says Norman what's his name Mela yeah he basically says that if they had all been on a different, he says that you should really frame World War II, the start of it, as speed versus red wine.
57:55Yeah.
57:56Fin:And speed, like rock, paper, scissors, speed will always be red wine. Right. But I guess to take that to a logical extension, yeah, if the Auschwitz guy had been on MDMA, then the camp would have been like somewhere you go on a Saturday. So by June 1940, it's the, you know, it's the montage. Hitler's in Paris. Yeah. Memories. We'll always have Paris. it doesn't get better than this the boys are looking around Paris Hitler hates Paris you know one of many things not today see eye to eye with him on yeah he's knocking about they love Paris this is a Paris you could get behind hey Paris for me lost its charm when it was liberated in 1944 no not N-Words in Paris well I guess it is N-Words in Paris it is so this is Goering and Hitler Jay-Z and Kanye West Nazis in Paris Pottle of the fuck is going to fire me Nazis in Paris Yes, it is.
58:50Fin:It's the original M words in Paris. Goering and Hitler. That shit, great. So it's July 1940. Now, Britain stands alone. Now, we talked about Operation Sea Lion, which is the possible invasion of Britain. But in order for this to actually happen, the Royal Air Force would have to be destroyed. and so the Luftwaffe sees itself and Goering sees himself now as the main character in the war he's like he tells Hitler he goes I'm going to sort this out for you my boy you're my best man I got your back main character even more than Hitler you think he see militarily he's like it's the Luftwaffe that's doing all this we're the reason the army and the navy can do what they're going to do if you want to invade Britain I'm going to do it for you so he sort of thinks he thinks Operation Sea Line might not happen but remember at this point the Nazis are basically like if we can knock Britain out then they'll come to terms and they've been on the form of their life it's win win win yeah they're on a hot streak so Goering convinces Hitler that he could destroy the RAF by the middle of September he says he said I'll do it in a week mate yeah right and he says that no bomber can reach Germany and he says if an enemy bomber reaches the roar then my name is not gering you may call me meyer um is that just another person's name that's another german name right yeah um i was a jewish jewish last night so they were funny yeah they were that's funny stuff that's kind of that has anti-semitic connotations well now it does yeah but at the time you know you've got to remember that comedy is a product of its time and 1939 I don't know I just think that implies something that I don't like I think you're taking it out of context okay fine I think you're taking it out of context you know it's comedy yeah you know stop reading into it sorry words aren't bullets yes they can sometimes be followed by bullets very quickly he says no enemy bomber can reach the roar and if it reaches the roar I'm not Goring I'm Maya I'm a Jew and everyone goes ha ha ha ha I mean his mum was shagging a Jew as well you know his godfather was Jeffrey Epstein or whatever.
1:01:12So maybe he, that was his way of saying, I'm Jewish. I'm yeah. It's a pullback and reveal. So now that's funny.
1:01:18Fin:Yeah. That's comedy. That's comedy. That is funny. Uh, in our next episode, we will be joined by ladies start, start the lubrication. Now joined by Al Murray, the governor, the landlord, an actual historian. He of gold hanger stable. the Ewoks are finally attacking the Death Star that episode and the next episode about the Blitz are already on the Patreon we have three pounds a month you too can offer to sell me Nazi memorabilia I will only accept it from Patreons that's my pitch for this week if you've got Nazi memorabilia if you want to sell to Finn you must join the Patreon first I will only accept as part of your getting your trading license it is a trading license I don't care if you've got a massive Nazi eagle in your attic, join the Patreon to open up communications with me.
1:02:09There's a way these things are done, right? Yes, you need a license to sell up. You just follow proper, you know. There's protocol. Protocol.
1:02:14Fin:That's all on the Patreon, and Al will stick around. We'll do a bonus episode with him. It's a big week for dads. Ladies, I apologize for what's about to happen. It's going to get technical. We'll see you on Thursday, if not, for the Battle of Britain with Al Murray. Goodbye. Goodbye.
1:02:48Push your limits, train with precision, see the results. At Equinox, that's high performance loving. Everything you need to lock in and unlock your potential at Equinox. Start today at equinox.com. The Viore Core Short moves with you. With everyday versatility and classic athletic fit. It's the one short for everything your day brings. Invest in your happiness and get 20 % off your first purchase at viore.com slash core20. That's V-U-O-R-I dot com slash K-O-R-E-2-0. Exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
1:03:41Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-CONTACTS. Oh my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-CONTACTS.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-CONTACTS
From the publisher
Hitler, Himmler and Göring - did someone say dream blunt rotation?
The Battle of Britain (Part One)
The show for people who like history but don't care what actually happened.
For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening and early access to series, become a Truther and sign up to the Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/fintaylor
Link to our merch here: fumblerooskiproductions.com/store
Chapters:
00:00 - The Gluttonous Nazi
05:34 - Fat Upper Pussy Area
08:30 - Epstein’s Aura Farm
14:26 - A Large Porkfolio
17:17 - The Enemy Within
23:53 - We’re A Community!
26:50 - Nazi Prayer Beads
29:11 - Bad Day To Be A Beer
32:12 - Hitler’s Your Best Man
38:53- Down Syndrome Nazi
44:53 - Warphine
51:38 - Nazi’s In Paris
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
