First Port Stanley, Now This?? (with The Upshot!) | The History of The World Cup (Part 3/4)

0:12Welcome back to Finverse History. It's part three of the World Cup story. We're still joined by the Upshot boys. Hello. And this episode we're going to the den of iniquity that is South America in the 70s. It's the sewer. yeah you keep leaving big challenges in south america this series you're really putting some crunching tackles in well we're gonna see why aren't we we're gonna see why something we missed out on the last episode was which i i thought it happened in a later world cup we should just animals the argentinians are animals uh and the brazilian the brazilians keep trying to fuck them no no you guys you want goats anyway uh in 1974 in the west german world cup uh we need to talk about Zaire because this is one of the funniest moments i only realized yesterday that it's not actually what i as funny as i thought it was so you wear this moment so brazil are taking it so zaire qualify and they're being uh led by a dictator in zaire formerly the congo called mabutu oh yeah have you guys done this on your yeah we've done mabutu and yeah so who's mabutu big dictator he organized the rumble in the jungle as well he's not doing the sports washing thing for Congo.

1:22Is there a nice story or supposedly this NBA player who he became mates with and went over there and then this NBA player Rodman? Disappeared. No, it wasn't him. It was someone else. This guy disappeared and the story is that he got eaten by Mabuti. That might have been Idi Amin. That's Idi Amin. Idi Amin also threatened Muhammad Ali as well. Yes, he did. But yeah, Mabuti, so it's Zaire as it's called then. And he's got some insanely long name. he's changed his name too you're right and it's sort of the ideal dictator look leopard print hat the all powerful warrior who because of his endurance and inflexible will to win goes from conquest to conquest leaving fire in his wake it's like that Welsh town that's my pet name big run up

2:07you off my heart yeah and he wears the iconic dictator look you know what I mean it's like leopard print sort of soldier's hat made of leopard print yeah yeah could look almost airline air hostessi Yes. Yeah, quite like the short skirt. You wouldn't say that to him, no? No, I can't. No. So anyway, so he's, they're promised financial rewards for qualifying. They get embezzled and then the squad say we're not going to play. So then FIFA pay them directly to play Yugoslavia. They lose 9-0. Mabuti then directly intervenes saying if they lose by more than three goals to Brazil, then they wouldn't be allowed to return to Zaire.

2:44So that's the context. That's great. So they're 2-0 down to Brazil. when Brazil gets a free kick so the 9-0 was a group stage game yeah so they yes I did not make it out of the group sorry to break that to you there's a game where so they're losing 2-0 to Brazil there's a free kick and then they're lining up in a wall and this must be like the last sort of 20 minutes of the game so you know never have there been higher stakes really for the Zayipers one of them a defender called Mwepu Ilunga just runs out before the whistle's gone just boots the ball upfield and the BBC spin this as like native confusion.

3:22Doesn't know the rules. Oh, doesn't know the rules. Now I genuinely thought that's what this was until yesterday. At the World Cup. I listened to a podcast and, oh no, it was because he was... Oh, this is brilliant. I love this native confusion story. No, because I remember this from watching the FIFA sanctioned box set, History of the World Cup, when I was a kid and Barry Davis goes, oh bless him he doesn't even know the rules or whatever uh but actually it turns out he was just trying to save his own life time wasting he was time wasted yeah because the other thing i heard there was it was like trying to humiliate and booty by maybe by by maybe he's the one that went to fifa and was like yeah i didn't sorry i didn't even know the rules i reckon you stick this on the dvd box set well i believed that until yesterday and so i guess it's not as funny anyway um let's get to south america uh 1978 argentina uh this is an absolute powder keg sure uh the you know the hiroshima of the invasion of port stanley yeah is only four years away yeah the one of many british hiroshima's yeah i've lost count of how many hiroshima's there's been in this series yeah um so there's a military junta yeah uh and these guys are not good guys they're not good guys they're they're chucking uh left-wing students out of helicopters yeah which i do to be fair is quite funny to get to get some new cross goldsmith students right out of the bin fuck off um uh they yeah they're bad guys inflation in 1976 exceeds 560 because the argentinian economy is just sort of like psychedelic at this point yeah it's kind of they started off being quite a powerful they're like a miracle of the south yes and now it's just like inflation is an insane it's just been spiraling for years now yeah it doesn't really get better in 1976 a bomb goes off in buenos aires on average every three hours uh there was a political assassination every five hours every five hours there's a political assassination god who's who's who's left exactly this is like the troubles on speed in argentina so this is like local councillors at this point though yeah i guess so yeah yeah uh they're bombing jackie weaver yeah with the country completely ungovernable the military junta come in uh hall gave ideya and they establish a regime which uh will you know will commit the original sin of invading our southern border the falkland islands they will also disappear an estimated 30 000 people sure but they inherit the world cup from the previous government yeah uh and they think this is this This is probably, apart from Mussolini's World Cup, this is, I suppose, the most corrupt, the most dirty, the most sports washing.

6:04But the Argentinians would view 1966 as far worse than this, right? Yeah. Because of the red card. Because of the red card. The referee incision. Yeah. Because someone didn't understand the order to be sent off. Right. They hadn't learned English. Yeah. But then underneath the ground, aren't poets getting tortured literally while people are playing? No. Exactly. When England lift the World Cup, there is not some left-wing students being thrown from a helicopter into the sea. A celebration. So that was the swinging 60s, so they were loving it. Exactly. Prime time for left-wing students. So this is also, I guess, this episode is Maradona's story.

6:41Right. You know, Maradona doesn't play in the 78 World Cup, but he is, was he 17? He's too young to play. But they're still a great team. They've got like Mario Kempes and Ossiar Diaz. and they've got Cesar Minotti as their coach who's like maybe the thinnest man I've ever seen just chain smoking a real kind of professor let's have a look at Cesar Minotti Charlie oh yeah it's Bruce Forsyth Argentine Bruce Forsyth he would just sit just chain smoking on the sidelines is this when I like that when did Maradona fall in a cesspit that was like when he was a child because he lived because he was a super poor upbringing right yeah he fell into a cesspit and almost drowned.

7:23So what is a cesspit in a literal sense? A huge tank of shit. The whole of Argentina. Yeah, do you mean he just walked out of the dirt and he just fell over in Argentina? What is that? It's a tank of shit. It's a tank of shit. All the shit flows into it. I don't know if it's even a tank. I think it was just a pit. It was a pit. A hole in the ground. Didn't it happen to some girl at Glastonbury or something? She fell down into the looms just swimming in it. Yeah, loving it. Yeah. Swimming it implies she's loving it. It's like those French toilets. It's also known as the healing fields. Um, so, okay.

7:53So Maradona falls in a big pit of shit. Yeah. So he doesn't go to the world cup. Yeah. But is that his kind of Spider-Man? Does he get bitten by a radioactive turd? There's probably a lot of coke in the shit. A kid explains it. Yes. That's right. Um, he's wandering around the dark. He falls into a pit. We're saved by his uncle Cirillo. Jumps in and pulls him to safety. Famously urging your young child to keep your head above the shit. That's a sort of moral life lesson, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. You're jumping in for a nephew? Yeah. No. I don't know. non-sea isn't it a bit non-sea to do that would you arrest him immediately arrest Cirillo immediately it was a test yes it was and you failed you failed it's like the old witch test so but now there's also a whole thing about like Operation Condor which was the American like sort of funding CIA CIA Hunter they're helping him out yeah so what is it so Argentina need to beat Peru by at least four goals to reach the final 78 and then they end up winning 6-0 and there are all these allegations about whether it was fixed as part of a human exchange.

8:58Because Vidal agrees to take and process, i.e. torture and chuck out the helicopter, 13 Peruvian dissidents in exchange for a favourable scoreline in the Peruvian government. Economic records suggest... It's quite funny calling it processing. Yes. You need to be processed. I mean data processing. You need to be processed properly. So Argentina allegedly ships 35 ,000 tonnes of grain to Peru, and then they release$50 million of frozen assets after the game has been lost 6-0. So that's the exchange rate. That's the exchange rate, yeah. In 1991, two hikers in the Alps found a body melting in the ice.

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12:11And is he kind of threatening them? That's the subtext, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. The subtext is that he's the puppet master. Good luck, lads. Yeah, exactly. Peruvian captain later recalled it felt like a silent threat disguised as a diplomatic greeting, leaving the players unsettled wondering whether the high-ranking officials weren't visiting the home team instead. There you go. Is that quite a good deal, though, for Peru what was it 50 million in assets and you get rid of those quite a lot of grain as well you probably won't win the tournament and you get rid of the distance this is pre-Nobby Solano it's like who's Nobby Solano come on Peruvian legend Newcastle winger it's like the only Peruvian guy him and Paddington Bear yeah that's that's all Peru have got you never heard Nobby Solano no Norberto Newcastle legend Norberto to give him his like Norberto Styles Norberto Solano name another Norbu yeah holder but this is this uh this deal is a bit like you know when uh britney griner that that uh women's nba player got arrested in the us for no sorry in russia she had a she had like a weed vape on her and she was detained it was like around the time the ukraine war and they were basically holding her hostage sure sure and they eventually got her released by exchanging her for a Russian arms dealer called the Merchant of Death.

13:27Yes, I remember this. The Merchant of Death. The Merchant of Death. He was like, we'll give you, you give us back our WNBA player and we'll give you the Merchant of Death or a woman's basketball player. Sort of. Yeah. What's more damaging to the world? Tomato, tomato, tomato. Abramovich gets him out. Yeah. He strikes that deal. So this is also the World Cup where the guy who had spent having many millions of pounds on the stadium so he had organised it gets blown up in a car bomb hours before the tournament starts. Now, was that a suicide? We don't know. We don't know. Cameras were on. I think he was killing himself.

14:07Much like Pickles the dog. We don't know. I think he just, yeah. If there's a car bomb going off every three hours then it was bound to happen. Yeah, that's true. That's the odd law of averages. To be fair, I do think car bomb as a suicide method is fucking hilarious. Yeah. It should be used more. Would you do it is a button or a timed one. Because if you time it 20 minutes, you just sit there. Yeah. Well, all that is, is just dad outside his house waiting in the car. But then the thing explodes. You can also pick who you want to traumatise. Yes. Drive-through. Six chicken selects and a Big Mac, please.

14:42Not quick enough. It's called fast food for a reason. Bang. I'd love that. That'd be absolutely brilliant.

14:54just traumatize some poor mcdonald's employee yeah next window please bang fuck it up um yeah so kissinger is the is the guest of honor at the tournament so i mean this absolutely stinks this this one this stinks like the cesspit maridon was found maridon was drowning and shit so is the tournament johan croif doesn't even travel because he'd been uh there's been a kidnapping attempt on his family is that right he says right the theory is his wife won't let him after the after he was fucking after the German four years earlier four year doghouse how is he not Cruyff turning out of the doghouse why isn't his wife like running out the pit draw on the shoulder she thinks you're in the Netherlands you Cruyff turn you don't like it he's on the plane and his wife's just stood there like where's your ankle breaker god this is where friend of the pod Joseph Mengele doctor doctor I apologise sorry can I just do this down the i apologize to mengele and his family the nazi war criminal doctors support health workers support this nation's doctors okay i'm i'm on the balcony bashing pots and pans for dr joseph first do no harm yeah there's a hypocritical that all doctors agree to yeah the original key worker dr joseph mengele is rumoured to have sat with the hunter during the final now our listeners are very very thick they will not might not know they're ugly as well they're very ugly and fat uh joseph mengle joseph mengle now if what was the um woman's basketball player called the angel so he's the angel of death okay right so uh i guess that'd be like a woman's ice hockey no but there's a difference the merchant of death you know that that's grubby that's financial the angel of death that's holy he was the guy in the concentration camps who was doing um nazi experiments yeah free yeah freestyling yeah yeah basement jazz yeah um so he's rumoured to have been guest of honour at the at the that's how dirty this is because he's the one that actually got away yeah he's the nazi the genuinely the one that got away he is the one that got away uh eichmann tragically uh illegally it was illegal illegal to extract eichmann back to jerusalem He did nothing illegal in Argentina.

17:16He was a very law-abiding. Upholding citizen. Yeah. Law-abiding citizen. So it is a disgrace. Yeah. And Israel needs to pay for that. Just a statute. Yes. Yeah. We need to, we'll deal with Israel now when we get to it, but there's a backlog of Israeli crimes. Yeah. We need a tribunal. We need the Eichmann trial trial, where we put judges on trial. Yes, but statute of limitations surely apply. Yeah, exactly. That was ages ago. 20 years ago. Can a man not change? what's happened to forgiveness in this age of cancel culture? Anyway, was he just like an upstanding citizen in Argentina? It was very boring.

17:51Eichmann had a family. You could set your watch by him because he'd turn up at the bus stop at the same time. Whose watch was it is the point that they're making. Yes. But yeah, he worked in a Mercedes factory and he didn't even want a promotion. You know? He's a humble guy. He just wanted to live his life for this family. And is that a crime? A straight man with a mortgage. Yeah. these days. Extradited by the Israelis. Oh, it's sickening. Absolutely sickening. Anyway, Josef Mengele is a hero who lives free in Argentina and is invited to watch the 78th final allegedly. Are they Nazis as well, the hunter?

18:27I think it's more... It's irrelevant. Yeah. It's more like you're a Nazi. It's like, all right, mate. Don't need to fucking like that. Argentina famously don't mind about Nazis. So they're just into him for his medical work. For them, they're small talking. He explains the entirety of the Holocaust. He goes, all right. Cool. So that's why you were banned from the 1950s? Yeah. All right, fine. It was a holocaust. Yeah. No, he was telling me he's holocausted. Yeah, he did the holocaust. Yeah, I studied history at uni.

18:57So what's all this stuff about the Netherlands ties with Israel made a referee unsuitable for the final? They've got an Israeli ref. Well, that is with Mengele in the crowd. That's a disgrace. Come on. Come on. Red rag to a ball. It's going to trigger him. Yeah, yeah. He's got a lot of trauma. And that Israeli ref is taking him right back to some of his darkest days. One of his best mates got extra by the Israeli government. In Argentina. In Argentina of all places. Yeah. Well, I guess male mental health wasn't a big thing. It's before male mental health. We should place 1978. It's before male mental health.

19:32I don't know. When is the key male mental health moment? Is it when Tyson Fury does a documentary about having being sad? What's the kind of the moment where male mental health... I think it's Alistair Campbell's rehabilitation from war criminal to podcast. Actually, it was mental health. Actually, I was depressed. Oh, fine. Okay, fine. No, there must be like a defining moment for men's mental health. Was it a show? Isn't it the Oasis reunion last summer, isn't it? Yeah, well, that's the end of it. I'm sorry. That was when it was cured. It's cured now, of course. Every man is fine. Anyway, so they protest that there's an Israeli ref.

20:07And so the FIFA, to be fair, it hears them and says, you're right let's put Natalian instead um Argentinian players walk off the pitch for seven minutes uh the crowd is is is chanting what's what's the thing with the so like literally next to the stadium there is the disappearing jail jail you can hear the crowd that sounds like an amazing event sorry it's not the disappearing jail the disappearing jail secret cinema with the magnificent Dr. Joseph Mengele. And his marvellous medicine. So yeah, just 700 metres away, the people are being tortured in the Navy School of Mechanics. So is that because the crowd drowns it out?

20:49It's quite a useful... Yeah, but maybe also the prisoners... Or is it just so much torturing you can't escape? And football stadiums are good for that sort of caper, aren't they? Yeah, that's that shit. And then prisoners are hearing the chanting and the guards are like, yeah, that's for our regime. Yeah. Right. Oh, okay. They're torturing, saying they're laughing at you. They're showing pictures of your tiny knob and everyone's going, yeah, that's small. So people are being tortured while, and the photo, can you get the photo, Charlie, of the ticker tape at the end of the 78th when Argentina win the final?

21:21It's like you can hardly see what's going on, the amount of white and blue ticker tape that comes out. It's glorious. Oh, right. I didn't know where you were going. It's pretty amazing. It's a bit you money. Torturing. It's pretty amazing. Oh, yeah, that's great. so Netherlands gets to the final again we've slagged Argentina off a lot but to be fair the ticker tape we've got to be fair astonishing use of ticker tape I think that's not probably not cricket none of our business none of our business the ticker tape we're a big fan of so fair play so again this is so this is Holland without Cruyff in their kind of the end of the so they made back to back finals yeah yeah and they lose both times and then they win it went to Van Bommels later that's way later that's 2010 yeah But the Dutch are not playing total football in 2010.

22:07It's awful. Dirk Kaut is playing. Yeah, it's a real idea. Is Dirk Kaut the ugliest man? Discuss. Wait, hold on. Let's get Dirk Kaut up. I mean, even the name. He's got lovely blonde hair. He... No, no. If we're doing ugly footballers, he's not scratching the side. He looks a little bit like he... Oof. Let's have a look at images. Come on. No. Come on. He looks a little bit like something out of Lord of the Rings. Come on. Nothing close to Jolene Lescott, Frank Ribéry. Not Dutch. Are you saying the ugliest Dutch football? Did you say Dutch football? I said the ugliest man. Frank Ribéry. Yeah, but these men are scarred.

22:41Oh, is that a... Come on. Yeah, I think the scar does a lot for him. I think he's... No, because Frank Ribéry's going like this. No, I got scarred. It's like, take the scar away. Yeah, same result. Yeah, same result. I actually think Bobby Charlton's got to be up there with that. Can I get Bobby Charlton up? Hold up. He's got a heroic 22-year-old hairline. Look at this. What are you talking about? He's pretty knobbly. Yeah. I mean, just that comb-over. As a 29-year-old with a comb-over, we have lost that as a society. This is pre-going to Turkey. That's not a woke hairline, that. That man has got right-wing views.

23:23Anyway, so Argentina win the 78 World Cup, which absolutely stinks. And this sort of starts, well, continues a tradition of complete Latin American shithousery. So let's get to Maradona. Born in what, on an onion farm or something? Cesspit, wasn't it? Born in a cesspit. Lived his life in a cesspit. Born in a shantytown in Buenos Aires. And you guys have done Maradona, right? Big time. Yeah, done a few. Yeah. I mean, there's the coke, obviously. Yeah. So I suppose we'll get to 82, but when did you go to Napoli and start really hammering? 80 i think he went to 84 okay so it was a bit before that he got into coke he gets into it in barcelona yeah he was playing at barcelona and like wasn't i think he got got a bad injury or something there and got really into gear right like apparently there was a journalist that went around to his house when he was out injured and went in it was just like 11 a.m on 11 a.m on a tuesday it's just like scarface just like they're they're they're at a ping pong table with just like mounds of cocaine and i guess it's having a great time if we talk about the cultural differences I guess especially from your sort of Calvinist upbringing this is something you won't be able to relate to Maradona had a close relationship with his immediate family.

24:37Disgraceful. Yeah. He spent a minimum of $15 ,000 a month calling his parents and siblings. Calling? Calling? What, a bar and a mobile? How are you racking up that kind of money calling your parents? I don't know if you can relate to calling your so basically you calling your sister I'm saving$15 ,000 a month on not speaking to my family. So you calling your sister nine hours a day racking up the bills mental waste of time what were they even chatting about at that point surely he's on a lot of gear at this point as well I guess that's why he's got a lot to chat about business like this so he's like he's from a 12 from a 12 year old he's like he's unbelievable Maradona he is probably the most naturally talented player ever to be he's my goat do you think yeah he's the most fun he's got a football character as well Because I guess the big comparison obviously is Messi, but Messi was mad enough without the gear, I guess.

25:33Well, he was sort of doing it without... He had the hormone injections. Yeah. It's not quite as fun. Yeah, I guess because Messi wasn't banging... Maradona did this all on shit pitches while banging coke and brasses. Yeah. And also had the build of a darts player. That's what's funny about it. It's John Belushi cartwheeling in the Blues Brothers. Yeah. He scored the greatest goal of all time, all time, while having a BMI of 40. Yeah. Yes, yes. But I mean, one of the great documentaries is the film about Maradona by the guy that did the Amy Winehouse. I always forget the director's name. And he showed this footage of this cycle he got into at Napoli where he'd be training for three days.

26:13He'd win a game single-handedly and then go out on a sort of coke and booze mafia field, four-day bender, not sleep. Then basically the next day on a Thursday, treadmill, oxygen mask, three days. clean film sometimes yeah bin bags start the whole cycle again that's basically how charlie this podcast he's in a bin bag now as if kapadi that's his name anyway that's a great dog there's another story the the book the doc is based on has a story that maradona did coke in the pope's bathroom wow in the vatican yeah wow he went on he was meeting the pope and he went on all night bender the night before and his agent was like, come on, mate, rein it in.

26:57But he stayed out. And according to his agent, he demanded to go into the Pope's bog and just put one away. Amazing. Doing lines in the... That's the most... Racking it up on the marble. It's the most Catholic thing I've ever heard. Doing cocaine in the Pope's bathroom. But you would... Because for that trip, I think he got invited and his family's all Catholic. It's quite a big honor. So all his mum and dad and he's been on the phone for them constantly. They know about it. So they come over and they're at the hotel and you see, you've seen the Pope tomorrow it's probably it's an early night probably but it's not his bag in 1985 the Pope invited Diego Maradona to the Vatican to promote an anti-drug campaign I mean that's absolutely hilarious I didn't know it was an anti-drug campaign as well is it more like look at the state of this yeah oh you want to drug scare well he's not a great face for anti-drugs because it's more like if I do loads of coke will I be Maradona that's brilliant I want it all he's up the face of cocaine yeah so now his first world cup is 1982 which is in spain which has just transitioned from franco from franco to democracy um so the main the main crisis that the tournament is defined by britain southern border britain southern border has been breached the argentines as if it wasn't enough yeah with their hosting a final of the RGs yeah it is overshadowed by the British Hiroshima and the British Nagasaki yeah the invasion of the Falklands Islands in April 1982 a century defining war crime yes biggest injustice to an century we live in the shadow of the Falklands Islands to this day as we've said the British government have to consider if they would participate in a supporting event alongside the aggressor I mean yeah it's a tough question there were calls for a boycott yeah as there would be but then thatcher goes well hang on that's not if we boycott then you're basically giving it yeah they've won haven't they um so thatcher says well it'd be good for morale so they send look at her there resplendent that's sports washing that's keegan on the left yeah great try brian may um so uh now in 82 uh maradona gets kicked to shit is 82 where there's a photo of him going through the Belgian team.

29:15There's an iconic photo of that 86. Weaving. Yeah. Well, there's a photo of all the Belgian defenders and he's like... Yeah. He gets kicked a lot. Yes. 23 fouls committed against him in one game. And so what had happened in the Falklands is that Maradona thinks he's playing for the boys. Yeah. And the Hunter in Argentina have put out like a news blackout. So everyone thinks it's going very well. Yeah. It's only when the team get to Spain that they read Spanish newspapers and they go, oh, right, Port Stanley has fallen. So he's 21. He's fully grown, 5 '5", and he makes his debut distracted by the true nature of the Falklands disaster.

30:02From his perspective, they lose 1-0 to Belgium. The next day, June 14th, Port Stanley falls and Argentinians surrender. Rejoice. Rejoice, rejoice. the world is safe the world is safe is it during the tournament that it's all you know the sun front page the gotcha when they sink the Belgrano is that during the World Cup allegedly allegedly there's no CCTV for that 15 minutes the cameras were turned off for that 15 minutes Belgrano had a hole in it gotcha gotcha up your junta yeah but I suppose this is all leading into the jingo it's a World Cup summer I mean the tabloids are never more rabid than if it's the World Cup so if there's a war on as well yeah it's the sun out there absolutely yeah it's peak sun so yeah Maradona now is this the World Cup where we get to the second group stage there's two group stages there are some weird ones out there we have a shit World Cup don't we well you say that but we have just recovered the Falklands so I think that needs to be put into the context of this shit World Cup we saved the world no one gave us any credit three world wars one world cup thank you Jack three world wars one world cup we stood alone again we stand alone the world expects us to be the global policeman for them it's not tenable we're stretched you know we've sorted out germany we've sorted out korea and now you're asked to sort out the fork i mean guys what is the un for if it's not to sort out the falklands so yeah as i said maradona gets kicked to shit and uh by a guy called claudio gentile who's is he um i don't know he's belgian or something when told he was playing too aggressively gentile They said, football is not for ballerinas.

31:38Not so gentile after all. Lovely stuff. Are ballerinas doing coke in a Pope's bathroom? That's my... Magriona gets sent off in a game against Brazil in their final match for violently kicking Brazilian midfielder Batista in the groin, which you can see a photo of there. Yeah, that's not cricket. It was retaliation. It's not Dave Bautista. Oh, right, Bautista the wrestler. Not him. But as you say, in the 80s, he then moved to napoli in what 82 wait who won that world cup then is it germany or is it it's it's it's it's it's it's it's no do we go out the group stage there's a second group stage that we go out brian robson starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer.

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33:52Listen, they are hot, sexy Indians. They are some hot property. And they are top of my list of my favourite races of people right now. Wow. I mean, this is big news. I mean, you're finding out here that this is the Screen Rock Podcast. This is a regular feature we do. We do a bit of race rankings. It's kind of like woke racism whilst talking about social media, really. That's our vibe. Exactly. We pretend that we want to talk about social media. Really, we want to talk about whether we prefer people from Pakistan or Brazil. And right now, Pakistan are winning, baby. So listen to the Screen Rock Podcast, if that's the kind of thing.