History Fan TV | Prehistoric Man (Part 2)

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0:42welcome back to finverse history i'm joined by horatio gould this is part two of our prehistoric man series our thump through a romp is that yeah millions of years thud of uh prehistoric history yeah and we've um we've done that now thank god and we're now up to where are we up to what about 10 000 bc the mesolithic period right so this is where it's all starting to come into focus a bit it's all it's literally like focusing a camera right it's all blurry yeah different humans are there and you're like what's that yeah everyone's got a big head and then it just they're starting to like homo sapiens are the only humans left people are starting to sit cross-legged maybe potentially that's like the that will take like a million years to get there but what he's in this is an evolved is that's like that's million years the only difference is like that what's the evolutionary success of this compared to that i guess hiding your small hog i think it's yeah and women are like i think it's multi women like oh what's behind that i think it also micropenis psych yeah i think it's also you're you're it's harder to get up so you sit around this fire more you talk more when's the first micropenis charlie first known micropenis because that's got to be a Charlie that's just caveman porn yeah Uga Butt stuff Uga Butt stuff yeah I've never considered caveman porn but there's something to it considered it I've not considered it no consider the caveman porn consider the caveman porn micropenis when's the first micropenis ever there's no way to know we can't know there's so much we don't know there's so much we don't know about this period you know the more we do this podcast but Greg Hancock would go, we do know.

2:24Yeah. What? An advanced Michael Thiener civilization. I've got it right here. Yeah, right here, mate. Graham Hancock. Cocky. Right here, man. Well, he's cocky about it. He's cocky about being the first money biz. We need to get to Graham Hancock, but let's just first place this for people joining. Graham Smallcock. We are in the Mesolithic period, which is not part of my wife's cycle. Yeah. This is, the Ice Age has ended. Yeah. And with it, I think, goes Pangaea, which we should talk about. So what is Pangaea? Pangaea, for people like me, for whom the world is very ethnically distinct, Pangaea is a terrifying concept.

3:04The we share land. It's liberalism gone mad. This is woke nonsense, Pangaea. It's all countries stick together. This is the future liberals want. Yeah. Every country's in one. Africa is just smashed into the UK. it's all just this is the logical if you don't stop the boat this is what will happen Africa will just crash into the UK so I mean where on earth is Britain in that? so it's before racism this is pre-racism well I guess so but this is more like localism I guess in that Australia is attached to what am I looking at there? where's the UK? Charlie where's the UK? where's Crawley? centre us with Crawley would you?

3:44I don't know where I am I can see Italy oh like zoom in zoom in oh no there's france i can see france so we're crashed into greenland so at this point and this is what 10 000 years ago is it uh britain is connected to france via a land bridge called dogging land dogging land dogger land we're also connected to germany the netherlands and denmark i guess it was like um a no man's land where dogging was rife yeah Now you'd say that's the hard shoulder off the M3. But before, there was a sort of, all the three countries had like a no man's land where you could just dog as much as you like. Yes, exactly.

4:24Terrifying. So yeah, and it's only about 6 ,500 years ago, Britain becomes an island separated from continental Europe. Have you heard about theories to - Original Brexit, 6 ,500 years ago. Yeah, exactly. It was a very politically divisive process. Very politically divisive. Now a referendum to separate themselves from Doggerland. Do you know that Doggerland, people are talking about bringing back Doggerland. Good Lord. Because what you do is you dam the North Sea. Right. Look, if you put a dam between Cornwall and Brittany, and then you get the top of Scotland to Norway, and you just dam the whole thing.

4:59What happens to fish and chips? You get a lot more land, I guess. Well, so you could walk to France. No, we can't have that. We can't have that. But people are talking about it, genuinely. Who's talking about it? I don't know. Right. It's so funny you're just saying mad shit against someone else. Someone back it up, would you? Someone back it up. It's not my job. so Pangaea is where the world is one yeah we are the world yeah we are all one world free love yeah nonce woke nonsense yeah and then thankfully someone with sense about 7 000 years ago starts to break away from the french yeah we evolve less back hair sorry when was Pangaea how long ago is Pangaea millions of years ago right right right breaks apart slowly 200 million years ago so this is what we were talking about the last episode where they get to Australia there's about 90 kilometers gap at this point between Australia and Papua New Guinea right so this is where graham hancock starts to come in he says there must have been an advanced civilization because there's no way a seafaring civilization right because he says that people could have got to australia by boat and also what's satisfying about the pangia thing is if you look at africa and south america they do perfectly jigsaw it's tetris and it's the same rock yeah on the coast of america as the coast of africa yeah it's quite nice anyway so pangia breaks apart dogland thankfully there's no more Britain's distinct from France yes would there have been like dates did caveman go on like dates do you think did caveman go on dates I think it was more fucking over a rock really yeah like pulling culture bend me over a rock would you Uga shove your Uga up my Booga but there's no like sunset like go and sit and look at the sunset with your Booga they probably did look at the sunset probably meant a great deal to them yeah so I think that's just starting to come through but I don't think there's a lot of romancing no I also don't think there's a lot of impulse control.

6:40No. Sort of pull her animal skins up and just have at it. Sex assault. You're not sure how... Yeah, I guess... If you want to be real, yeah. It's just pre-me. It's slightly pre-me too. It's just before me too. Harvey Weinstein would be viewed as woke back then. Yes. Ugar. He'd be viewed as a feminist. Yeah, feminist extremist Harvey Weinstein. Yeah, so climate change brings the end of the ice age. Large parts of the world start to warm. The ice caps melt. areas submerged as sea levels rise. It becomes warmer. Europe becomes covered in forests. Blah, blah, blah. Present day Britain starts to emerge.

7:18Finally. I'm in a disabled toilet. I pulled the red cord. Someone's turned the lights on. The focus is just coming in. I can see now. I know where the poo needs to go. I don't need any more help. Thank you. Thank you for helping me. I'm in France. I can see the toilet. Yeah, it all works. so what are humans doing in the early mesolithic era the first large groups of hunter gatherers come together right and they're this is where they start hunting various things deer cattle elk hunting sheep hunting sheep you don't really think about doesn't seem like a fair fight really does it yeah but i don't know how sheep survive because they seem like the easiest things to hunt in the world right yeah they're kind of just big targets aren't they big fluffy targets but you have to chase sheep don't you but also i should say dogs are around oh right and they're used as the oh sorry yeah um we are joined by a caveman yeah we defrosted the caveman his name's argh thanks for joining us argh so um yeah how would you hunt a sheep i guess is the first question yeah no yeah no stupid but no but i mean like how what would there be like uh group tactics and stuff like that oh god no right fair enough we'll come back to you we can't know really but they found berries nuts and it's nomadic everyone's a gypsy a fighter a fighter runner yeah it's mainstream gypsiness is mainstream yes exactly anyone who's not a gypsy is a gypsy right that's what they would have called gypsies were people who lived down why are you sitting down you gypsy get those filthy gypsies off my lawn yeah exactly they're sitting down yeah the world's my lawn exactly it's upside down that yeah so but tools are starting they're starting to use wood I think at some point they say that it really should be called the wood age because most tools are made of wood yeah and they've got like cleavers and they don't have pencil sharpeners do they butter knife what butter knife I get butter stone I think butter stone what's that right yeah yeah yeah yeah no you're right I guess so do they do they ask Ask.

9:24Do you masturbate? I guess they would have masturbated. Yeah, but do monkeys masturbate? Charlie? Yeah, we do. Microliths. I got a microlith. It's a tiny and very sharp. Model Stonehenge. How big are your balls? Decent size, which I think also adds to the optical illusion. It's a magic eye. Yeah. just sort of like yeah it looks like a dwarf on two exercise balls

9:59dwarf on two space hoppers a garden gnome on two you know it's like it's like my um my two-year-old on the space hoppers adult space hoppers um so microliths are sharp shards of flint stop me if this gets triggering um sharp sharp shard of flint that you you tie it together with to make like axes and scrapers scraping tools so um humans are making uh like little fishing hooks so we're starting to fish at this point um and i have nets are developed and we should say so this is kind of like this is between what 10 000 and let's say 5 000 bc and this is where hancock graham hancock starts to come in we should talk about i asked to put graham hancock in the research because i'm a big fan of hancock yeah uh explain to our thick listeners who i'm kind of fascinated by him because so the history community he's a controversial historian yeah he's technically not a historian i think he's more of a journalist he's one of our lot he's one of our yeah we're in the same we're in the same i believe that us and hancock we're sort of like history fan tv we're outside the ground yeah we're not managing yeah we have no education this is us this is this is us about history

11:14yeah that's us talking about gerbils yeah yeah yeah that's us going blood blood blood yeah yeah You got the job on the technical side. I'm not letting you do recommended job. You are nothing. You are a fool. And you are a waste of time. You are nice. Yeah. We're history fan TV. That's Graham Hancock, basically. But Graham Hancock's theory, right? Yeah. He says that because he doesn't understand how the pyramids are built, that, what's that, Charlie? That's just a sexy little caveman. Booga, booga. No, it's a photo. It's a photo. It's a photo. It's a photo. He says that because he doesn't understand how the pyramids were built, that there must have been an advanced civilization that is missing from our knowledge of the human story.

11:54So pre-Egypt, he thinks there may have been, or during Egypt, a civilization that understood geometry and astronomy and stuff. So pre-Ice Age, the Ice Age basically wiped out all traces of a very advanced civilization. He thinks that civilization in the Egyptian time is restarting a civilization that was destroyed by a comet when the Ice Age ended. But the thing about Hancock, he shows the power of a posh British accent in America. And so that's why we're a big fan of him. A lot of this podcast, we were riding off the back of our accents. Well, America, this is a history podcast. Exactly. In Britain, I think this is very nice.

12:25He is very, and also the thing is because most historians are so dull, if you can be kind of charismatic in any way, like I love listening to him talk. Tallest dwarf, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. And it's interesting because I listened to his episode with Joe Rogan and he's great on Joe Rogan because Rogan's the perfect. Hooger, hooger. No. No, no. That's a different guy. No. even though joe rogan does clearly have some neanderthal dna clearly yeah um but it's really interesting because rogan's the perfect guy to speak to hancock because he at any claim he's like wow yeah and it's like it's amazing watching them both go at each other but this this is hancock's big thing is that because we can't find a shipwreck yeah older than 6000 bc everyone thinks that there were no seafaring civilization before that but he says the absence of something doesn't disprove it right then we could all just say that about everything we don't understand yeah So it's like, well, the reason you don't understand the pyramid - How many fingers am I holding up?

13:14Exactly. You can't know. You can't know. So it's four. Yeah. But you can say that, so he doesn't - We can't know, so it's definitely four. He doesn't understand how the pyramids were built, but it's like, well, yeah, the absence of you knowing doesn't disprove that they were built by someone that we couldn't know. What's nice, and it's similar with a lot of conspiracy theorists, is it's more they want to get involved, and the more kind of endearing aspects of it is they want to be - Charlie's just good with Neanderthal milk. I mean, it's come up with the NFL mill to be fair. Oh my God, look at that.

13:46Fucking um, um, get that one up. Down, down, no, no, no. Get up, get up, sit down. That's fucking, I'm uga doodering over that. Go back, go back. Get that up. Look at that one there. Look at the knox. Oh. Oh. Sorry, sorry, sorry. We get, sorry. We get a fucking prehistoric Lisa Ann off the screen. What's a prehistoric cold shower? What's the equivalent? ice baths I guess this is this is the first ice bath I've just got a chubby I've just got a chub on yeah so do you want to talk about this boss man temple they find yeah so Gugepi Tepe or whatever it's called Gugepi Tepe and it's interesting a lot of the best shit has been found in Turkey and I do think Turkey's underrated as maybe the most historical country in the world Homo erectus isn't it yeah all of the good shit is actually found in Turkey and so there are discussions that maybe the beginning of civilization actually is in Turkey if any places because chattel hoeing so this is the earliest known uh site of what could be a city or a settlement yeah so it's not technically the first city that's uh in like

15:01that's the first city yeah but then this is the first kind of known urban environment settlement So boring. Would you not find that interesting? No, it doesn't look like... I find this stuff, it's the first sight of anything remotely... I think because you're first to do something doesn't mean shit. Yeah, it doesn't mean... It does mean lots of stuff. It's not as good as London now. Yeah, get a photo of London Skyline and compare the two. Oh, it's Sadiq's London. I think it's better than Sadiq's. Oh, what, you're saying catalytic is Sadiq's London? See, that's banging. That's fucking great. Look at that.

15:31That pumps me up, that. Look at that. Yeah. Fucking ashtray. But it's 8 ,000 BC and it changes our whole conception of when cities start some good shit. Anyway, Gobekli Tepe is a more sacred site because it's potentially the first temple. Yeah. And he kind of uses it to show that we are more advanced than previously said. And also, while a lot of debate's going, he wants to get in there. He wants to excavate. But the historical community is not excavating that much. They've only done 2 % of the site. Right. But apparently what the reason - Hancock's getting in there, isn't he? Hancock wants to get in there.

16:06let me let me let me add them yeah the reason why they're not excavating is because in a hundred years we'll have much better excavation tools yeah and if you excavate now like has happened on many sites you'll fuck it you'll fuck it for everyone else so it's kind of like a yeah if i went there with a spade i'd fuck it up massive massive yeah yeah yeah yeah spade is like um that doesn't matter um yeah yeah it's no point explaining but i think the thing is with hancock when he's like the he goes on about the pyramids how they're like geometrically perfect and they align with the north star it's one of my favorite types of white guy though i love a nosy white guy uh i like oh i mean we need to talk about pradley walsh and the pyramids have you seen this play this video so you know out of nowhere this this radio appearance of bradley walsh it's it's giving glenn hoddle talking about disabled people not being reincarnated because they send in a past life or whatever.

17:00Out of nowhere, Bradley Walsh has not really seen to speak about any of this stuff. Clearly, in lockdown, had been on a lot of websites. Play it. If you times that by 43 ,200, you get the polar radius of the Earth. But this is Hancock's theory. Yeah, yeah. This is Bradley Walsh saying... Low energy, unfocused, foggy, you might be dehydrated. Gatorade Zero Powders have been scientifically designed to help improve hydration balance in the body. with a clinically proven electrolyte blend and no artificial colors or flavors. Great tasting hydration no matter where you're going. Shop now online or at retailers nationwide.

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18:06Do you struggle to keep up with the news every week? The Bunker has got you covered. Every Monday, we release Start Your Week, where we go over the big stories to follow in the coming days. And then on Fridays, we have our weekly wrap-up, where we give you the context and the meaning behind the biggest and the weirdest stories of recent days. Search for The Bunker wherever you get your podcasts, and subscribe so you never miss an episode. the base of the pyramid and you you know which is almost 750 foot square and times that by 43 ,200 you get the circumference of the earth to within 98.9 % it's extraordinary but yeah it was built in the reign of Khufu alright now some of these yeah right listen listen it was built in the reign of Khufu yeah but listen stop it it's history fan TV it is but the point is is that where the fuck has he got 43 ,200 if I times your dick by 40 if you don't 200 I'd hit something yeah what does that mean who cares it's such bollocks yeah I'm so sick but also what are they trying to prove yeah I don't know but who cares and also how do they build it I'll tell you how you build it they don't actually know how old it is and it was built by Neanderthals it was stronger and they could lift a higher stone oh do you think that's actually why wouldn't it be that the absence of lift if a Neanderthals they're like tons the Neanderthals wouldn't be able to lift that how do you know that well because we've got the bones of Neanderthals no we haven't got the bones of another form of human who might have been around.

19:29So this is arguing on fan TV outside. It is, yeah. You don't fucking know anything, love. Yeah. But what I'm saying is we haven't found, we maybe haven't found bones of people or that were big enough or strong enough to lift that shit. So we could, we could. But that sounds quite Hancock-y to me. That there's these super strong other human beings who built the pyramids. To me, that sounds a bit crackpot. Well, it does. But Hancock is saying that the absence of something doesn't disprove it didn't exist. And then he's saying that but this is what happened but this is what happened with the we can't know what happened so that means this happened yeah exactly it's like well no we could have you know there could have been giants and listening to him on rogan it's really funny because they're talking about how you know in many ways they're more technologically advanced than we are today they might not have iphones but maybe their understanding of moving stone is better than we have today we couldn't build the pyramids today yeah we do we do it a fucking day mate if we put all our civilizational focus on building the pyramids we'd do it eat china china doing like three hours yeah they'd use slave labor like they did for the originals yeah yeah why change a winning formula exactly uh but yeah with cranes you'd be able to build the pyramids super easily right hours the way that people are talking about the periods being like it's even more advanced than we are now it's like if we wanted to today we could build the pyramids but also why the fuck would you build a pyramid who cares yeah it doesn't mean anything if it's built now try building the shard dickhead shard's harder to build the shard's harder to build yeah imagine if that yeah if If the fucking Angel of Jensen had built the shards, fair enough.

20:55I'd be like, right, Hancocked onto something. Bradley Walsh. Bradley Walsh. Get Bradley on the phone. What's going on? What is going on? How have they built the Burj Khalifa in 4000 BC? What's going on? Maybe we should ask someone who might have been around that time. That's true, actually. Who do you think built the pyramids? Ooga booga. Right. I guess so. Right. The first agricultural revolution, the Neolithic revolution. This is the key to the first societies and civilization, right? This is the beginning of the Neolithic period. Downog. And it's basically farming. Yeah. The long road to Clarkson's farm starts now.

21:32Yeah. Now, this is what? But this is when everyone's Caleb, right? 8 ,000, 6 ,000 BC. Yeah. Everyone's what? Everyone's Caleb at this point. Yes. Caleb is the journey from Caleb to Jeremy is this story. Everyone is Caleb. Yeah. And Caleb is good at farming. and nothing else. At some point, they develop other skills. Speech. It's not Caleb, it's the Trevor. Is he called Trevor? The guy who's properly Oxfordshire. I grew up in Oxford and everyone thinks, assumes it's posh, right? But this is the kind of people you grew up with. A proper Oxford accent is Gerald. Gerald Cooper. They have to put subtitles on.

22:10And there's a running joke with Clarkson's farm. Jeremy Clarkson genuinely does never know what he's saying. I know, I build a show. who the fuck is saying remember that and Jerry's like yeah yeah I guess so I think Clarkson's banned food intolerances from his pub yeah he has yeah it's really near me because it's woke nonsense yeah you can't have like wheat intolerance you go in there but I have an idea to set up a restaurant this is if I ever set up a restaurant it'll be called you get what you're given and it's whatever I feel like cooking there's something there if it's good food and it'd be like if I'm up for it I'll do like a slow roast it's my dick in a box not in a box it'll be like beef rib or something and then if I'm feeling tired I'll do beans on toast and it's the same price and you get what you're given.

22:49And it's about learning to be a fucking good little boy or girl. Yeah. And you'd be grateful. Manners that have been lost. Be grateful. Yeah. So basically, going from untogethers to farming, as soon as you start farming, you basically free up time. But also interestingly, for most of history, the majority of homo sapiens are believed to be lactose intolerant. Still lactose intolerant. Look at the lactose intolerant map. Yeah, China. We are living in the milkiest place. We're like X-Men genetic freaks. Northern Europeans, Scandinavians, we've drank so much milk and beer that we've worked out how to do it.

23:25Only really white people can digest milk properly. Sort of. Look at that. Look at that. Yeah. So look at percentage. Well, Africans can't drink milk. Yeah. 80 to 100 % of Chinese people have lactose intolerant. Yeah. You look at India, very few people. It's only Northern European, Russians, Slavic people, white people who can really consult on the whole but you look at Australia can you digest milk? you look at you look at Australia on a map doesn't it see you can see the settler like it sticks out like a sore thumb yeah why can Australians digest milk? it does prove the point that maybe Australians shouldn't be there when you look at that map it's like what's going on there?

24:05there's that milky outlier at the bottom but so as farming starts people can digest milk and beer beer starts around when does beer start earliest beer is like 6 000 years old something like that 7 000 so pints pints are seven thousand years first pints do you think a beer i don't know you just don't you didn't realize it's older than nearly everything it's older than civilization really well it's yeah i mean it's the right at the beginning it's like the first thing we invented it's man it's like man dog beer yeah that's the and what so it's bread juice fizzy bread yeah Fizzy bread. Do you like beer, Ugg?

24:38Mmm. Right. They start farming barley, wheat, and rye are like cereals. So people are eating cereal, I guess. Cheerios and stuff. Cheerios, Wheatos. Golden nuggets. Golden nuggets, he says. Ooga booga. Do you eat golden nuggets? Still, to this day? Sometimes, yeah. That's crazy. I mean, sugary cereal is unbelievable. It's the worst way to start your day. It's the worst way to start your day. No, it's not. It's exceptional. Charlie, you were half an hour late to record. I was having my golden nuggets. You walked in through the last episode because you were eating golden nuggets. You should start your day with eggs.

25:12Yeah, yeah. Eggs. Well, you're on the big egg thing. I'm on the big egg. I'm a personal trainer. And since I've been seeing him for about four months. You've got a personal fat shamer. Personal fat shamer. I'm paying to be shamed for my sins. And since I've started seeing him, I've gained weight and I've got piles. So I don't know if I'm doing it right. It feels like, it doesn't feel like progress to me. You're on the mint pie diet. It's not. I've had to abandon the mince pie. I was on the mince pie diet, but he's got me eating eggs and drinking protein. This guy loves eggs. Eggs and oats. He swears by us.

25:45But you said that you've explained to him like eating food for pleasure. It's quite a nice relationship because he's 24 or so. Really sweet guy. Fresh out of uni. And he's telling me how to like do kettlebells and I'm telling him how to cook something that's not cat food. Right. Because he just eats like tinned fish and rice. He's a good booger. He's a good booger. Yeah, no. I mean, in a way, yeah. I'm training his tongue and that sounds bad, but I'm training his taste buds. So his tongue is a good booger. A good booger. His tongue is my fat belly. And your attitude to health is a good booger.

26:24Yeah, exactly. Who's this? Did I say this? I don't know. What are you about to pick now? Just my fish for me 12-hour meal. I'll have it with a rice cake. Yeah, it's all this stuff. Oh, Christ. Danny's trainer puts him on a strict diet. It's like those bits. Oh, man. Turn that off, Charlie. In the morning, I'll have fish and a rice cake. Yeah, it's like, he eats like that. You know those videos of, they're obviously wind up. This is what I cook for my blue collar husband after a hard day. Oh, yeah. And it's just like some frozen steaks in a pan and just pouring water on it. The dirtiest looking.

26:58Yeah. But that is kind of how he eats. He eats tin mackerel. apparently the amount of protein you're meant to eat or I'm meant to eat is astonishing yeah but these guys weren't eating this protein so when they talk about like going back to what we're healthier the paleo they were eating whole cows were they? they have a cow and they just keep eating but also I must say this is smoked salmon smoked salmon starts here they're smoking fish these people smoking fish thousands of years ago because homo sapiens are the first people maybe the Andesols do this as well they they're smoking fish they're freezing it the animals are freezing it in the ice they've got a little so they're meal prep meal prep right tupperware boxes yeah that's me for the week so asia obviously they start they start fanning about with rice yeah um millet in africa traces the first known rice paddies about grain what are we doing grains what do you mean are we doing grains are we just talking about what does that mean after this what do you mean are we just like going through country grain, like maize and barley and stuff.

28:00Yeah. What do you need to know about us? Just wondering what we're up to. Are we doing that right now? Brilliant. Yeah. Cool. Just checking. Just wondering what we're doing. Do you have something to add? Can I just interrupt? No, I like, I like muesli. But similar to our kit, I like muesli. Christ. First word. It's too old, isn't it? To be honest, I think you might be a better producer. yeah i think i might be we're not going to switch i'll go out we might have to tap in yeah but muesli is like oats and um it's the classy cereal yeah i like muesli but i guess that's not really what we're talking about no what were we talking about maize and barley so agricultural food production led to the abandonment of nomadic lifestyle name and grains yeah and then but the paleo diet doesn't include grains does it because paleo is pre-farming so farming is when they start making bread and beer so this is 7 000 this is where the process starts processed food ultra processed food it's not ultra processed it's just processed ultra processed is then factory so it's still the process is starting right so rfk junior rfk junior is starting to go this is this is not good they're turning they're turning weight they're making oils out of seeds the bread's become oil um so the bread so i reckon there's probably an ooga booga back then guys we need to go back to eating just raw eating raw yeah so So agricultural food production leads to the abandonment of the manic lifestyle.

29:26Well, no, it's the opposite of now. Everyone's eating keto. Everyone's eating the raw beef diet. And then there's one guy saying, we need to process our food. Yeah. It's upside down, Lance. It is. And everyone's going, we need to put some sugar in all of this. Trust me, we need to start processing. This tastes fucking disgusting. But they must have, the shit they must have done back then. But also our ideas of foods, like the idea of a banana, right? The idea of a banana. Think about the platonic form of the banana. Yeah. you see them in big yellow fucking something that you know charlie shoves up his ass yeah a big bunch they would have been tiny nasty hideous things that through farming and evolution they've become these like juicy delicious things chickens were small and yeah all of the food would have been absolutely terrible at this point yeah and under verse so with the invention of cooking food our intestines become smaller right which leads to cities now that doesn't make sense to me yeah I don't feel that's a jump.

30:20That's a Graham Hancock jump. It's a huge jump. It's a huge leap. I'm going on Rogan going, it was only when we stopped shitting massive logs and we developed cities. Wow. Wow. I think it was a civilization that made the toilet. Yeah. So, Çatalhöyük, all these early sites, Göbekli Tepe, they're all in Turkey because that is part of the Fertile Crescent. We ready to move on to the Fertile Crescent? Please, my friend. My friend. So, this is 101 for this period of history. This is Autist Unite. That's the world's dank, stinky pun. Yes. And as you can see, the first real cities end up in the world's fanny, which is, you see that warm little wet between the Tigris and the Euphrates.

30:57That little warm fucking place in there, that's where all human civilizations started. So the Eastern Mediterranean and the, so what, Iran, Iraq, what's now Israel, Egypt. It's a dank, warm place. Which is interesting, basically, most places had like three cereals and grains. Right. In the Fertile Crescent, I believe it was like 17 of the kind of ones we use. So for like a cereal, it's like those little selection boxes to get in hotels. So they have like eight of them. Hang on, this is quite interesting. It's going to be pornography, isn't it? Yeah. Fascinating. It is. You're right. You're making it up.

31:31Get it off. Get it off, Charlie. That was quite interesting, though. Yeah, it was fascinating. Fascinating. Farming starts in the Fertile Crescent. Because it has... It's just, yeah, it's one of the most fertile places. Most fertile places. It's also very silty. so I think that's like the perfect balance between what's silt? silt is sediment I guess it's like it's like a wetland Christ turn me on 505 higher no wetlands a natural wetland but what's interesting is I went to Jordan three years ago which is in the fertile crescent I've been hiking through my wife's fertile crescent I've got big shoes on and sticks yeah I'm hiking down there if we ever get lost yeah there's seven Graham Hancock Graham Hancock speaking about my wife's I've been there there's an advanced civilization really the fertile tuntun fertile tuntun yeah Quebecli teppies down in my your wife's purse can we get I think I've got to sit next to you guys no no we're not getting not yet no no the smell the smell alone this is when do people stop smelling do we know we haven't really placed this A lot of people still smell.

32:43I haven't had deodorant for a week. Do you want to bath? Yesterday, on the way back from Bristol, you were wearing two coats and no pants. Jeans without pants, yeah. Jeans without pants and two coats. It's crazy. I forgot. It's fucking crazy. Must be hard on your... Are you circumcised? No, but naturally I am. I actually... You've got a natural circumcision? Right, hang on. What? I don't have a full foreskin. I called my mum at age 20 and was like, am I circumcised? What's going on here, mum? What's... I've been lied to. I just don't have one. What's the big idea? But I actually think I'd rather not have one.