No Nut Falafelmaxxing | Mahatma Gandhi (Part 1/4)

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0:42Make your move. Order on the Sweetgreen app. I want to date with Rawls, Carty says. Rawls? Rocker asks. This is the love story of real hinge couple Carty and Rocker. Written and read by me, Nicola Dinan Listen to the free audiobook now Gandhi, I've walked hundreds of miles to see you Your hunger strike calling for non-violence Is an inspiration to all of us Where do you find such strength and courage? Child, a man must look deep within himself Of course

1:25Are you eating? No. No. No, sorry. Of course you're gandy, well you wouldn't be. As someone who wants to follow in your footsteps, where should I look to find such strength? Over there. I think you should look over there. What, look at that tree or something?

1:47I... Is that Cheeto dust in your beard? It's just part of my beard. That's strange, it really feels like you're snacking every time I look away. How dare you? I'm on hunger strike. Yeah, sorry. You've travelled all this way. Please, let me guide you in meditation. Of course, of course, Mahatma. Close your eyes. I want you to think. of the evil British are doing. Mm. Hum.

2:22Before we start a big... You were definitely eating then. You were definitely... Look at this! You're eating! You're not a hunger strike at all. I'll be honest with you. You're stuffing your face. Shh. The fasting isn't the main thing, okay? It's not? No, it's actually about semen retention. Right. Only by controlling your own sexual urges can you ever be master over your own destiny. Okay. Well, I guess maybe that's what I've been struggling with because often at weak moments I struggle... Sorry, are you using some sort of vibrating fleshlight? Ghandi! I'll give you a baby bell if you don't tell anyone.

3:18Welcome back to Finn vs. History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. Matt Morandi. And it's a big one. Today is the start of a huge series on Mahatma Gandhi. I didn't know much about Gandhi. I thought he was a bit annoying. Sure. I know he's a big deal. Yeah. I had no idea how horny he was. Yeah, it's crazy. I had no idea. um one i mean joins a long tradition of horny holy men horny indians well this is this is the long road to show me your bobs uh now and it makes so much sense when you realize the father of the nation was a real fucked with a same retention fucking perv oh my god it's this is great stuff we're finally listeners in the british raj finally you've been wanting this since we started the series now there's not a tiktok account that exists called raj core but if there was that i haven't followed i thought you're gonna say i can't find one right i i want to you know you see those accounts where it's like the 80s financial core yes and it's like finance guys in the 80s you live in new york in the 1980s and it's milan yeah you've got big suits and you're drinking whiskey you want to have the way i wake up in the british raj yes and it's not because that's what's waking up now that's sadikistan in 2030 right i want to wake up in the british raj i want to be you know in a in a plinth helmet i want to be drinking a cool drink gin and tonic gin and tonic or an iced tea being fan being fanned by a punker waller i want to be carried on a sedan chair i want to be telling people off even though i'm wearing big shorts funny for the indian subjects we're being told off ordered around by a man wearing a safari suit with big shorts giant shorts the biggest shorts has ever been go what are you doing get over there wearing shorts humiliating absolutely humiliating to them i guess like the british raj is a huge part of british history it's the jewel of the uh crown of the british empire but you never learn about it it's not it's such a like a blind spot in british history right yeah you know much more about gandhi than you do about all the other stuff all the fun stuff but the right the raj is uh but also the architecture like before the killjoy came along well this is the this is the biggest killjoy there's ever been this is a guy walking into the room going all right no shut it down No, no, I don't like any of this.

5:36Everyone's eating too much. Yeah. Dishoom is styled off of the old... What are they called? Those fucking cafes? Whatever fucking... Bombay cafe. Bombay cafe. Yeah. And it's styled off that kind of Raj style. You know, Rajcore. I'm saying people should make more Rajcore. Yeah. I've never been to India. Have you? No. No, I'd love to go. My wife's been... She went there for like seven weeks. Imagine there's good bits and bad bits of India. As there is anywhere. Yeah, it's true. I mean... I've been to Birmingham. No. I've not been to India, but my wife went. She had like seven weeks traveling there when she was like 21.

6:15And I said, while I was doing this, doing Gandhi, and I said, you know, what's your main takeaway from India? You know, you spent seven weeks there. She traveled large swathes of the country, this amazing culture with this huge, diverse history of different things. I said, what's the main takeaway? She went, the guys are so horny. Really? She went, every man is like more horny than the last it's like a russian doll of horny horny guys and what's up i've seen a lot of videos of people just like masturbating out of windows yeah yeah and that's like polite yeah do you think partly do you think the because i saw someone say that basically the the uh arranged marriage yes once they took that started taking that away you've never learned how to riz anyone because it's your mum just sorts that out for you yes so you never have to pick up it's like the first time you have to buy pants when your mum's been buying you pants for christmas until you're whatever.

7:05I mean, it's not stopped for me. No, sure. Because my mum doesn't know what to get me. Or you've transitioned it to your wife. So you go from mum to wife. Yes, my wife doesn't buy my pants. Does she not? No, mum buys my pants. That's mum's job. Does mum still buy pants? Sometimes, yeah. I don't, I forget to buy my own pants. Yeah. I've got other things on. And you rattle through them, imagine, at a quicker rate than most. They're many a single use, yeah. Justin Bieber wears a new pair of Calvin Klein's every day. opens a box every morning. Really? Is he selling the used ones? No. Is that why? I would use a single...

7:40If Justin Bieber's used them once, I'd... I'd buy those. Yeah, I'd buy those. But it's like a second-hand car. If you're inflating the price because Justin Bieber's worn them, then that's bullshit. Okay, it's like a game of girl bathwater. A pair of pants. You know what they say when a pair of pants leaves the forecourt, it's lost£5 ,000 already. Is that what they say? About cars, yeah. What circles are you hanging around with? It says you're driving a car off a four-crawler. You lose five grand. Right, right. So wearing pants out of the toilet, you've already lost 10 grand on the pair of pants.

8:11So I'm not paying over the odds for Justin Bieber's pants. Well, if Justin Bieber is just throwing these pants away, we need to set up a thing. We need to set up a deal. Where are these pants going? Just put it down a chute that we have a bucket at the bottom. We'll just collect all these pants. Why has he got... These are perfectly good pants. Imagine the feeling of a new pair of pants every day. The hedonism. Yeah, that's too much. Every single day. That's too much. because a new pair of pants does feel amazing but every single day you gotta have some you get the fluff though you get the little fluff from like black pants yes so he must have constant but these expensive Calvin Klein's I imagine that you know they're well designed and are they briefs or are they trunks I actually don't know enough details to be honest fart pants now we did we once bought my dad a pair of those for Christmas flatulent pants as a joke yeah but I think he did use them he's particularly can you just go hell for leather in those he's particularly bad at Christmas yes you have like a sort in the same way that we've talked about brian johnson having a sauna ice pack for your balls yeah you gotta have fart pants are when you have a kind of herb herb pack around your ass so you're fighting herbs out into the yes yeah you're farting through a prism of scent well charlie seems disgusted by that things what i will say is that the smell's not better it's just weird i'm gonna talk about this on the other pod but yeah sometimes it's very suspicious when a bathroom smells too much of fresh breeze yeah what have you done in here what's going on here fuck you know it's not the crime people hate it's the cover-up you know it's watergate isn't it it's the fact he was caught the two nicks and down it wasn't the fact they did a big poo it was that you went in and went this smells too much of air freshener you're lying to me you're covering something up anyway uh yeah i was just thinking sorry flat-shirmed pants because you can have flat-shirmed pants in the back ice pack in the back so you can just honk in the sauna and you can be there being like i've been farting constantly and i'm gonna and i'm gonna carry on my sperm count still high so I'm going to carry on my lineage.

9:59I'm absolutely nailing this sauna. We're talking about Mahatma Gandhi. We're talking about the British Raj. Gandhi is born Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi in 1869. Do you want to play this? I would love to play this. I just want to say that Gandhi's life spans 1869 to 1948. Jealous. I'm so jealous of the history. The golden age. The golden age of the earth. I'm so jealous of the history that he, you know, it's my favourite time span 69 the real summer of 69, 1869 to 1948 he takes in eugenics, phrenology Rourke's drift Social Darwinism World War II, Nuremberg the Titanic, Rise of Hitler crazy Freud Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins.

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11:51Chris Tarrant is born 10th of October 1946. Thank you, Charlie. He's there for that. Yeah. Where were you? Where were you when Chris Tarrant was born? I've played cricket against his son. So have you, Charlie? Toby, yeah. We play cricket against his son and he got me out. His son's a rapid bowler. So we're all linked in this story. We're all linked to Chris Tarrant and Chris Tarrant's linked to Gandhi. Is that what we're saying? Yeah. Gandhi did not want to be a millionaire. He did. So he wouldn't have gone on that show. Who wants to be a millionaire? there not not me not thank you um first one get the first one out four episodes got to get it out you give an excuse for the whole table to have some now i've ordered accents for the table all right we'll all be chipping in picky bits everyone's everyone having picky bits okay so 1869 this is before chris tarrant is born pre-tarrant pre-tarrant we're living in a pre-tarrant well when gandhi's born and it is after um it is after napoleon has died okay so it's after napoleon and it's before chris tarrant right pre-tarrant post napoleon that's when gandhi is born it's sandwiched between two great men two great men two men who could not ultimately invade russia yeah uh one tried one didn't anyway that's irrelevant he is not known as Mahatma till later on but he's known to history as Mahatma which means great soul sure it should mean fucking horndog yeah that's what really it should be Mahondog Gandhi Mahondog Randy really and ultimately I mean he goes on to he goes on to inspire you know Martin Luther King Rosa Parks the IRA any kind of civil rights IRA what were the IRA taking from him I don't know if it's very Gandhi fucking blowing up a pub no it's not um but i mean i don't know that yeah but they probably would have said oh yeah him as well i know we're just like martin is the king and also you've got two minutes to get out that pub i don't think martin was doing that anyway um so let's just do a lovely let's you know let's let's have a soak in the warm bath of the british raj who's pouring the water uh i believe they were called coolies but that may be a slur sure again we're going to get into lots of ancient slurs.

14:07It's a terrific topic. Punkawala is a really fun word that I've been trying to bring back. And what is a Punkawala? A Punkawala is someone who fans you. The white man. The white man? I think it is. It doesn't necessarily need to be racialized. It's an Indian man in a nappy and a hat, chef's hat. And they've got a big fan and their job is to cool down the man in the big shorts. but this is all british raj is just reflecting on your youth right it's reflecting on the golden age when you're when things seem so positive and good yeah do you know i mean now now we're an old man in a chair at a care home yeah stories no one cares about yeah but we when our eyes close we're reminiscing about our well i mean i'm a young man and i'm reminiscing about the raj when i was never there but i'd love to be first things first uh india before uh the raj you know it is ruled by various different hindu and muslim empires the mughals are a massive one they did the taj mahal yeah we did we talked about that in our piracy series the the mughals uh the big the biggest biggest piracy highest ever was against the mughals going on hajj um they're going on hajj and um a majority hindu the hindu empires uh then the dutch east india company arrive and the british take that over or or whatever but they send basically like um they send it's a company right it's a company so it's only like bt yes go take over india right well it's b it's bp in iran yeah basically yeah so obviously they arrive there and they go what the fuck you guys are all native americans right called indians and then uh then they're like oh no this is actually india and then the british east india company rules india for the mcdonald's empire sort of yeah it is weird that it was ruled by a company yeah uh couple hundred years but i don't think did the british india company own all of they didn't own india but they essentially trading ports yeah and then they managed to divide and conquer a bit and it wasn't until the armies of the army are there and the crucially the indian the army is mainly indians they were called sepoys which is the asian soldiers fighting for the british india company uh to defending their interests their trade routes and is the ultimate way they managed to do this with such a small force just a company basically with because india was one of the richest countries in the world at this point had the biggest textile industry and it was taken over by mcdonald's basically yes it's because of uh divide and conquer they said this about you right well actually they think this about you and just getting them all to fight brilliant yeah classic classic but also they were mainly using indian uh soldiers right and then uh the indians against the indians to take over india yeah brilliant uh but the indians got annoyed that uh their enfield rifle their standard issue rifle was the cartridges were greased with cow and pig fat which is upsetting to both hindus and muslims right of course double whammy which is a you know a great way to maybe solve indian pakistani tensions now let's rub stuff in cow and pig fat yeah and go look well what would you're a goat fat what was the goat i'm very fat yeah so um i mean it's sort of insult to injury isn't it because it's not i mean you could use like butter or ghee they love that's ghee yeah can you butter up um your cartridges uh well it's just fat isn't it i mean surely you can or olive oil yeah so on may the 10th 1857 the indian soldiers the sepoys uh shot their officers they really don't like the cows being used i mean this is i mean chill out guys you know we get it now can we just charlie because this will come up a lot why are cows so holy in india what's going on there the cow is a holy animal because the cow can just wander free they symbolize life and non-violence well that's bollocks because i've been on a stag do and was chased by a herd of cows uh the cows are the most people every year yeah and so hindus yeah well that's bollocks i'm not but i'm not a believer in hinduism because i think cows symbolize violence yeah fucking units 20 deaths from cow per year in the uk generally on uh on my stag do phil wang wrote about this in his book we were i must have talked about this on the pod we were going through a field to a brewery and we were so hung over and the cows will turn as one of the hive mind and they pick on the weakest member of the group which was me and ivo and john kearns john kearns was at the back completely like i mean he was john kearns hung over as a sort of he's gone he's completely gone can't function and then he just sees the cows and he goes i'm not going through that field and starts walking the other way but then the cows follow him as one terrifying mob rule is cows anyway hindus violent criminals they're terrorists they are terrorists all cows are terrorists every time you eat a burger is a victory and yet the hindus see the cows as being uh holy uh even cow dung and urine are considered sacred.

19:11Okay. It's all getting a little bit perverted now, isn't it? Yeah. It's getting a bit piss playy. Agree to disagree, India. Anyway, so this sparks the Indian mutiny, as it was called until recently when they started to call it some kind of rebellion. Tragedy. The Indian mutiny is a tragedy. They shoot British officers, and the British react robustly, executing many soldiers and consistently suppressing the revolt over the following 18 months. This is in 1857. And this uprising ultimately leads to the abolition of the East India Company. McDonald's shut down and shifts to the direct rule of the British crown.

19:49But the East India Company were pretty brutal and there was no restraint at all. I mean, McDonald's workers aren't having a good time, are they? Yeah. So that's partly why the British government had to come in. And it's not even a transferable skill. It's not like, oh yeah, I can cook. I worked at McDonald's. You can operate a 3D printer for chips. It's Foxton's. It's the guys who work there being in charge of millions of people, basically. Yeah, yeah. And not doing a great job. So by the time Gandhi is born, the British crown was in direct control of India. I think Queen Victoria becomes Empress of India in 1876.

20:21At some point, we take the Koh-i-Noor diamond. That's still a big thing. We'll do a whole episode of Koh-i-Noor because the lifespan of the Koh-i-Noor... That's quite a big... We'll just do a patron. A whole episode on a stone. You'd be surprised. The lifespan of the Koh-i-Noor is crazy. What do you mean? It's over like 800 years it's been taken by so many different empires and whoever has the Koh-i-Noor dies like normally in horrible ways. Yeah, it's like, it's an amazing story of the Koh-i-Noor. What, like that, like Indiana Jones? Very much so. Is it the philosopher's stone? It's also the founding stone of Afghanistan and there's, there's Iran have a claim to it or some shit.

20:52Like it's, it's crazy where it's all gone. Well, we're not giving that back then. No, God no. I think in fact, when the queen died, there was a big, they all were like, right, give us the Koh-i-Noor back. Fuck off. Fuck off, that's going on Camilla's head. That's clearly for Camilla. that Camilla's got the cover. If it's that sacred and it's on Camilla's head. Now, the British Raj is obviously aesthetically brilliant. But from the Indian perspective, one could argue that it's slightly exploitative. That one is not in the room with us right now. I don't know where he is. As in one person has made an argument ever.

21:29One uppity guy has made the point that the British were extracting cotton, salt, indigo and tea to support British industries. Yeah. And they exploited existing social divisions already existing in India, such as the caste system, which we should get into because it's very funny. And it puts our class system to shame, I feel. Oh, we got nothing on the Indians, man. We got nothing. But I don't, I quite like this. This is something that we could definitely take from the Indians, I think. Know where you are staying in your lane. We've got upper, middle, lower class, really. Yeah. Let's spread out even more.

22:01No, no, no. Like make sub-genres. Yeah. So if you're a sewage worker, you are born a sewage worker and if you marry someone who's not a sewage worker then you are outcast. And you are treated as sewage. Yes. You are sewage. You are sewage. I'm putting on you because you're sewage. So the Hindu caste system is insane even by British class standards. Have you been to India, Charlie? No. No. You've got a vibe of someone who you look like you've got beads in your house instead of doors. Big Kareem pants. No, I've not managed to go yet. No. I'd like to though. Yeah. You've got priests who are the highest class, warriors, second, merchants, which is the sort of class that Gandhi is born into, laborers, manual labor.

22:44And then we come to the untouchables or Dalits, who are people who basically, they butcher animals and they clean toilets. Right. So they touch shit with their bare hands. And so you're born into doing that. So, I mean, it's like being born as an Indian, the stakes could not be higher. As a baby, you're like, am I... Please. Come on. Please not poo handling. Please not poo handling. Oh, fuck. You're going to handle poo just like your father handled poo and his father handled poo. But couldn't I... What if I didn't tell someone I'm untouchable? Well, supposedly... I'm untouchable. There's no ethnic...

23:24Anyway, they're called untouchables because no one would touch them because they handled poos. He's fucking untouchable. No, it's the opposite. Don't touch him. He touches poo. It's not like, yeah, it's not, it's not the goat conversation.

23:40So, but then, you know, when you realize that people are born into these jobs, essentially, it makes it easy. Like you were born into racist podcasters. Yeah, I can't help it. And then you realize that people, some people are born into these Show Me Your Bobs cast. Yeah. And that's why they're so, the horny Indian. That's their, they can't help it. That's the cast. You know? I have to comment on the Sydney... Where are your barbers? That's their... It's their lineage. It's their hierarchy. And society would fall apart if they weren't doing it. Exactly. Gandhi is born into the merchant class. His family.

24:14His family kind of middle class. And intermarriage is strictly forbidden. Or rather... Between the classes. Between the classes. What I find weird about the untouchables. So it's butchers, poo workers. It feels like they have a thing about hygiene and stuff. Even though I've seen their street food videos. Well, no, but I think they are untouchable. That's the untouchable. Well, from my perspective, yes. Because what, it's like using, they'll grow like a long nail out, and then they'll, have you not seen these? Oh, no, I've seen a lot of them. And then you'll get raw chicken, and you'll use the nail on your foot to chop it in half.

24:46Yeah. So, okay, right. But I imagine they're being like, I'm not shaking your hand, you touch poo. I've got to use my chicken toenails. It's very funny to be looking down on someone as the guy with putting raw chicken on your toes. Congratulations, India. you've made diarrhea airborne and contagious uh yeah easiest yeah yeah yeah firm stool difficulty hard mode yeah your cast determines your profession your social circle and crucially who you can marry uh now elevate your circle is a big thing that manosphere people say but that doesn't apply do that your circle is your circle your circle is poo touches so deal with it i think it's the indian manosphere deal with it yeah we all touch poo deal with it And if you were a poo-toucher and you married someone who was a lawyer, the lawyer, both you, you'd have to live at the outskirts of the village.

25:41You'd be shunned. Both of you would be shunned. And that's still very much at play today. Yeah, and I guess there's a... Because Daniel Sloss was telling that story about when he was performing in India and afterwards, when everyone had left, just these loads of guys came out of a van to take all the chairs. and he was like trying to shake their hand and they're like, don't touch them. They're literally just like... Chairs? No, they came out to pack up all the chairs. The theatre, people were... Wow. But he hadn't seen them there. They only arrived after the gig. In a van. In a van. They came out, got rid of all the chairs and Sos was trying to like shake their hand, say thanks for that and they're like, do not touch them.

26:17To be fair, having done a lot of work in regional theatres, I don't hate that. Well, Swindon Arts Centre. I do think... The untouchables. Yeah, I do think the tech here, Swindon Arts Centre is untouchable. uh yeah 100 and you know i'm about to go to many other regional theaters and i will be i'll be keeping that in mind don't shake their hand you know these guys otherwise i will be you know it's they're not poo touchers but they're fucking cheeto eaters and um slushy drinkers and uh yeah god knows what's under their fingernails yeah um so now there's a debate amongst scholars it must be said as to how much the British make the system worse or whether it's pretty entrenched before they get there.

27:00But it's certainly a method of control because the Brits arrive in the Raj and at Iberia, this is the late 19th century, they immediately start to classify things, census. It's the age of classification. And so they're using caste to, I mean, that's what classic FM should be. What classification FM? Reading out phrenology types. I'd listen to that, Alexander Armstrong. wrong um anyway no so they arrive there and they go okay so this is your cast system so let's get the callipers out and see how big their forehead is and if that means that they're a sewage worker by design because of the shape of their nose you know it's all it's all it's science do they do they actually have the is it phrenology in the car system or is it just because you have your surname but i didn't know if there was like a skull shape but the brits arrive and think ah Okay.

27:44East meets West. Yeah. Fusion. Fusion cuisine. Phonology in the car system. Yeah. Right. Do the people who touch poo have big hands? Is that why they're poo touchers? Because they're sort of shitting into baskets or something. Charlie, if it wasn't already clear, you're an untouchable. Yeah. You're the untouchable of this podcast. You're the untouchable of this podcast. What is that? This is the guy with the biggest testes in the world. Wow. I've seen this. He can sit. Oh, no. Fuck. Wow. He's got elephant. He's got elephant. unbelievably skinny legs which really oh exercise ball oh where's he from he's in Delhi so he's got to be fair he does look quite tired he feels a bit he looks a bit sick of life how does he sleep he doesn't need a chair apparently because he can just sit on sit on his balls well yeah when there's something to that that's quite nice it's like a beanbag it's like a I don't think it would be a beanbag I don't think it is comfy you know when you sit down and you catch your ball God.

28:44Yeah, that must suck. Imagine him busting. He must be like a fucking Boxing Day tsunami coming out of there. I think I'd kill myself. I think I'd kill myself. Really? If you had balls that big? Yeah, I couldn't do that. No, that's a lot, isn't it? It is a lot. Because also, it would just proportionally, you'd be like, no, my dick's not small. I've just got the biggest balls I've ever seen. I like that that's one of the big problems. It's actually above average. Come and sit on my balls. I mean, sex must be difficult. Is that why the Karmusutra exists? I think so, yeah. Christ. So let's get into Gandhi's early life.

29:26He is born in Porbandar, which is in Gujarat. And his father's a political official. He's the youngest of six, but the favourite child of his parents, supposedly. And he grows up living an ascetic vegetarian lifestyle because his mother and dad are Jainist. Jainist. Do you know about Jainism? Jaina. Do you know about Jainism? No, I confuse it with Jainism, which is the - What's Jainism? That's - Where you put a glass jar up your arse. No, it's the Jamaican one. Jain, Prius Jain. Oh, right. This is Jainism. No, Jainism is the thing where you - Jainism, Jaina. You do not kill a living thing. Right.

30:01So it means, and it's like, that's a huge part of the philosophy. So much so that you're always watching where you walk so you don't step on bugs. you have a mouth covering so you don't swallow a fly accidentally. So it just means it's like this obsession with like not causing any death or damage or violence whatsoever. Right. Which I imagine played a part. Yeah. Potentially. God it's a mental health condition though watching where you walk to that extent. Yeah. Well you walk if you accidentally step on a snail. Then you're so upset. What happens if a Jainist steps on a bug? Because their whole thing is trying to stop stepping on a bug but what if you do it?

30:36Because if you're looking on the floor do they send themselves to prison? hitting a lamppost you know if a janus steps on a bar direction because it's dependent on whether the app was intentional or extends although the ultimate goal is to minimize violence at all times karma isn't it so right bad karma glen hoddle stuff right so just but they're trying to accumulate value still it's still it's still like investing in bitcoin but is glen hoddle a janus uh in a way yes he is well yeah he's saying that anyone in a he's basically saying stephen hawking's stepped on loads of bugs in a past life. He's walking through a beehive in a river.

31:11That's why he's like that. Anyway, look, so Gandhi's parents are Jainist and these principles, these three principles,

31:24Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, Ahimsa, which is non-violence, absolute non-violence. and then anekandavada which is non-absolutism now for this one i think you need to give it the indian accent because i think you're struggling with the pronunciation if you don't anekandavada yeah that's that's better it's better i mean it's like i've told you it's like when i went to hungary and i took the i did a borat accent when i was trying and the guy was like yes yeah yes exactly yeah my wife and i was like okay i'm speaking hungarian then um anekandavada is non-absolutism which is crazy because uh well actually we'll get into gandhi's uh he does he's very against partition because he thinks everyone can live together but uh i wouldn't say he has multiple viewpoints no he's quite one time sure starting or growing your own business can be intimidating and lonely at times your to-do list may feel endless with new tasks and lists can easily begin to overrun your life so finding the right tool that not only helps you out but simplifies everything as a built-in business partner can be a game changer for millions of businesses, that tool is Shopify.

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34:00Listen to the free audiobook now. Anyway, and then... It's quite one note. Aparigaha. Aparigaha with non-attachment. Right. So this ultimately teaches that the path to liberation involves purifying the soul from karma through strict self-control, i.e. being veggie. That is self-control, though. Yes, it's worse than how I eat. Yeah. Just trying to avoid eating steak, that is a lot of self-control. Whereas you eat steak and then you drink fiber powder in the evenings. Well, there's a bit of the gandy about me sometimes. We'll get to the obsession with bowel movements and fiber. But he's also a fiber maxer.

34:43A fiber maxer? Yeah. Is he? okay is that what you are are you saying you're a fiber max i want the i i aspire to be a fiber maxer but i often fall short are you fiber mogging me is that what you're saying i don't know i don't know how much fiber you have i'm beef mogging you right now i'm beef mogging phoebe yeah phoebe's getting beef mogged yeah she gets beef mogged every day can't help with a beef mogged drive by beef mogged well that just sounds like a flasher like a real lesbian slur you fucking beef mogger she is a veggie woman sorry she's vegetarian yeah um as yeah beef mogger vegetarian they're both they're both dykes come on yeah she's getting falafel max