The Man Who Transcended Misogyny : Ted Heath | Post War British Prime Ministers, 1945-1979

33:19just spent in time for these angry minges you know people on their front gates husbands are putting beware of the hairy minge on the front gate so that postman can know nothing worse for a postman than an angry growler the 70s you know i imagine when do when do brazilians come in is that in the 60s what do mean i mean come in oh sorry no no i'm not not enoch powell says this country's got too many brazilians it's fine i don't mean the people river this river i think it's the no charlie people know what a harry muff is yeah they don't need to see it yeah this is an audio this is an audio medium okay let's just set the scene no we don't need to set the scene we're talking about ted heath it's not the history of growlers although it is the brazilian comes in it's the 80s it's the economic inequality.

34:13It's the aspirational thing. You're saying that's just got a Brazilian? I think so. I reckon so. You've got a landing strip. You've got an aircraft carrier. You've got the Belgrano down there. Yeah, quickly to be deployed to near the Antarctic. That's just Auckland Islands. Doesn't seem to know when exactly it came in. The trend of the Brazilian. When did it start? 1990s, apparently. 1990s. So it's Blair's Britain. Or it's Major. Major. Major. Major likes of Brazilian. Major legalized sodomy. Do you know that? Did he? Yeah. My wife had a massive crush on John Major. I wonder why. Yeah. What was the, you know how it's a Brazilian?

34:50Was everyone just like Scottish before? Like what is the... Oh, what the opposite of a Brazilian is a Scottish? Which is just Scottish. Is that when... Couldn't be more hairy. Yeah. Yeah. Just like down the thighs. Bagpipes. Bagpipes.

35:05Because that's the noise. Oh, what clan is... What clan is that killed? It's my hairy minge. Oh, fuck Christ. It's a growler clan. The McGrowlers. I'm part of the McGrowlers. We're fucking angry. That's how they sound. Because you look at a Brazilian minge and it's like, it's bossing over. It's all like, Yeah, it's a bar fight in Glasgow. You pull down a woman's angry Scottish minge. You know what are you looking at, pal? You want some?

35:37Anyway, the growlers are getting hairy. It's an angry time. and and uh what he so let's talk about the minor strike in 72 yeah because 72 bloody sunday happens it's all kicking off in northern ireland but the miners go on strike for the first time since 1926 now they're angry at their rate of pay not increasing equally alongside the other manufacturing industries because what would happen right is that there are like hundreds of unions yeah so one of them goes into downing street negotiates a pay increase and then suddenly all the other ones go well fuck off we want the same yeah so it is like bet now wilson is trying to do this like through the back door through william batty's house wilson's trying to do this by getting like the angry brigade to break in bassy's back door the angry brigade has stormed wilson's back door and so wilson had a whole thing about like oh it's um you're coming in for beer and sandwiches and actually it was white wine and smoked salmon but none of the union leaders wanted to be seen to be being that a feat because in germany apparently there's like two unions that control and everything.

36:37So you just negotiate with one or two of them and it's all sorted. But the fact there are hundreds here, you know, there's a union of fucking dustbin men. There's a union, all your different... Anything that's important. All your different bins, there's a different union. There's a union of food bin collectors. There's a union of recycling bin collectors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a union of fucking, you know, spec savers or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Glasses wearers. So then everyone, you know, because of the spec savers strike, everyone's... It's just like, I don't know. What? And so, So Heath's idea is like, do you know what?

37:09This has to stop at some point because I am inflating. The country's inflating. My thyroid cannot take all these strikes. My thyroid can't take all these strikes. I don't know. It seems like an awful work day. 13 million members. But just think about Heath's daily schedule. Yeah. Every morning he must wake up. How long does he sit on the end of his bed with a sock in his hand? Just. Yeah, I'm coming. Yeah. It's a fucking shit day. Yeah. Bombs going off. Yeah. Another coal miner's coming in asking for more. I fucking gave you what you are. Fuck off. So he's already the rudest man. He's already the rudest man.

37:44He's reported to have said about his own party, there are three types of people in this party. Shits, bloody shits, and fucking shits. Yeah, he hates the Tories. He hates them all. Yeah. At one point, there's an amazing story about how he's on a plane with some journalists. And one of the journalists, like a woman journalist, faints. And he goes, quick, fetch some brandy. Brandy, quick, brandy. And then someone brings brandy. and rather than give it to the journalist, he's fainted, he just nails it himself. He's just like, a woman's fainted. Fuck that. He's the most phenomenally rude man. I love him so much.

38:15If he's like sat next to a woman at like a big dinner, he will just turn his back on her. He'll just sulk and she'll speak to him and he'll be like, where's the bloke, love? He's the definition of the worst. Where's the bloke, love? Where's the bloke? Where's the bloke? Where's the bloke, love? So actually, Thatcher's kind of a massive snapback against this. Yeah. And he partly hates that because she's a woman. He hates that because she's a woman. Yeah. The only woman he has any respect for is his mother. And that's because his mother named a dog after him, gave him his own special chair. So basically she sets such a high bar for women.

38:48Yeah, they can never clear it. Yeah. She is such a good mother to him or over mothers him that he finds all other women sexually repulsive. Because nothing beats mummy. She nurtures him into a pedophile. Maybe. We don't know. We don't know. Anyway, so the miners are demanding in 1972 a 47 % pay increase. The government offered 9%, which causes a deadlock. So they strike in 1972, and they strike during a very cold winter. So he declines a state of emergency, which he will do, I think, four times during his... Which by the third time, people are like, well, fuck it. You know, as a prime minister, if you call a state of emergency once...

39:30Four times. If everything's in bold, nothing's in bold. No, exactly. It doesn't mean anything. So the Cobra, the whole Cobra starts in response to this. Oh, really? So Heath is trying to be strong on the unions in the way that Thatcher later actually will be. But he caves. I mean, at one point in 1971, Rolls-Royce goes under and Heath saves them. And actually, they go on to work. So that's actually an example of the Tories saving a company that then goes on to be profitable again. But everything else, they're just pumping money into and it's just all failing. it's failing so um but he's like uh why he's a modern politician is he's a true like technocrat something almost cameron-esque about him like the cameron blair sort of thing let's get around the table let's work out let's compromise something that thatcher wasn't thatcher was quite idealistic in many ways and like you know strong willed mummy mummy yeah but he's just trying to compromise with mummy he's trying to he thinks everything we worked out with uh facts figures and working around the table you don't compromise mummy tells you go to bed you go to bed yeah you don't say oh what about what if i sleep on the sofa but basically what's what i find quite like the sofa's not for sleeping oh i miss mommy oh yeah the woman's not for shaving the woman's not for shaving a woman's growler is her power a woman's power is in her growler this woman's not for shaving i think the reason why i like the 70s as well is it's very soothing learning about this because it feels like everything's been so fucked.

41:00And it's really good to be reminded how things were so much worse. Things have never been worse. Even the Blitz is better than this. Yeah. Because the details are from community. Yeah, exactly. We're all in it together. No one's in it together at this point. We're here just drunk. Everyone's drunk, hates everyone. Yeah. There's no wartime spirit here. So he eventually caves and gives the miners something. I don't know what. But, oh, 16%. But basically he's given everyone a pay increase and then leaving the country very vulnerable to external shocks. Yes. And the biggest external shock we've had since the war.

41:34Yeah. And then four days before the Cold Board come back to agree to the 16%, the Yom Kippur War kicks off, which is the Arab countries invade Israel. And then very quickly, the Israelis, or is that the six-day war? I don't know. Anyway, it all kicks off down there. But it's interesting how similar it feels to the 70s now. like yeah fucking energy shortages Russia crisis in Israel and Palestine so much the things we're going through now have happened in the 70s yeah so so basically it was a coalition of Egypt and Syria uh doing a surprise attack against Israel over the Yom Kippur like festival as Israel does slaps back pretty hard I imagine it starts on the 6th of October which is the whole point about Hamas doing on the 7th of October because it's it's a holy day in the right so that's why there's that symmetry nowadays yeah so but this then basically as soon as that starts anyone who is overtly or covertly supporting israel yeah gets absolutely fucked by the opec which is the oil producing nations yeah uh where basically the price of oil goes from two dollars a barrel in 1972 to eleven dollars a barrel yeah so it's up fucking 70 80 percent so this basically means the miners have got heath's balls and advice because the country can't afford to either pay the miners what they want or import all fuels so all fuels off the table this is when they turn the tap off they the the the middle east turns the lights off hello hello anyone there um because now before we get to the three-day week we should actually talk about the europe yeah because the whole time heath's gamble or heath's idea is that we've you know the empire is completely gone the The empire's fucked.

43:19Macmillan and Wilson have seen that off. There's no empire left. Heath is like, let's tie ourselves into Europe, finally. And so... And de Gaulle's vetoed our entrance twice. De Gaulle's dead by this point. De Gaulle's fucked off. And there's a new president called George Pompidou. And basically, Heath manages to convince Pompidou to not veto. Yeah. And so the UK joins what's then the EEC in 1973, which Heath sees as his greatest achievement. It's probably his most lasting one. Definitely. Even that's been fucked off. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. We'll get to more Europe later, but... Do you struggle to keep up with the news every week?

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45:02Really, we want to talk about whether we prefer people from Pakistan or Brazil. And right now, Pakistan are winning, baby. So listen to the Screen Rock podcast, if that's the kind of thing. We'll see you there. The three-day week kicks off from New Year's Day, 1974. Do your parents talk about the three-day week? Yeah. There's an amazing... Heath's Christmas message, we've seen this, in 1973, is... We will have a harder Christmas than we've seen since the war. Basically, you remember when Boris cancelled Christmas during COVID? That's basically what Heath did. But there was no virus. Yeah. Cancel culture.

45:36You'll all have to tighten your belts. Yeah. So... Yeah, this is a time of very bleak political messages saying it's just going to get harder and harder. Yeah, there's no hope. There's no, you know, it's the opposite. You know, Obama, like, hope, that poster. It's just heaped with shit. Shit. Everything's shit.

46:00We have to postpone living standards. Yeah. We just have to postpone it. Imagine the property is definitely postponed. Right. Living standards. Oh, watching. So what this means, three day week, electricity consumption. Because everyone complaining about their bills rising. Oh, you've got nothing on this. They turn off everything for four days a week. Yeah. Businesses can only open for three days a week. And if that means you, if you want to do five days, you have to pick morning or afternoon session. Yeah, it's crazy. Right. So non-essential shops, factories, offices, closed. Petrol rationing, 50 mile an hour speed limit.

46:41Can you fucking imagine the anger? You know when you don't drive? No. Charlie, you know when you're doing like average speed limit 50 miles an hour? Drives me mad. Drives me fucking up the wall. It's the most painful for your foot because you're in like in between fourth and fifth. So petrol rationing. Most pubs are closed. TV, they turn the TV off at half 10. That's when match of the day fucking starts. This is when Premier League games or what's then First Division, they start doing it on Sundays because they can't afford to turn the floodlights on. So then that's why we now have football on the Sunday.

47:12Yeah. Greece would shit food and shit weather. This is, we're getting to Greece. England is Greece. I'll say that again. The UK has become Greece because of this mismanagement of the post-war consensus. Yeah. The whole country is not today, except it's not in a plastic chair. It's in a fucking leather chair, just covered in shit with coal everywhere and the lights are off. And it's not, not today. It's like, not today. Not today. Not today, Roger. During the fourth three-day week, the Daily Mail commissioned a psychologist who gave advice to couples that this was an ideal moment to experiment more in their sex life when the kids are at school.

47:52So yeah. So you've got nothing else to do. I mean, it doesn't sound terrible, but this is when, this is where actually, Charlie, Charlie, this is interesting to you. You're a child of the 70s in many ways. This is where butt stuff really starts. Yeah. because nothing's nothing's open nothing better to do all you've got to do is butt stuff yeah so William Batty's back door is open wide open again the lights aren't on so you can do it without being feeling shamed exactly for all the dirty stuff you're after so things in Britain get so bad that Ugandan dictator Idi Amin this is a real low point isn't it launches a Save Britain fund pledging money fucking it's comic relief the other way around.

48:35That's how bad we get. I mean, it's funny from Idi. It's so funny. Like Africa getting patronised by Europe so much. Yeah. I mean, it's like, we're sending Lenny Henry there now. Originally, Lenny Henry was being sent to us going, fucking hell, look at this. And Idi Amin, right, says he's going to pledge a lot of his country's resources and he's doing a whip round amongst Ugandans. A lorry load of vegetables. Yeah, so he gets a lot, there's a lorry load of vegetables that sat on a runway, right? And he's calling the Chancellor going, can you please send a plane to pick up this veg that my country's given to you before it goes off?

49:08And we're just ignoring him because we can't fathom the idea. Which is so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. Yeah, he encourages everyone in Uganda to donate generously. In December 73, EDME launched a sarcastic Save Britain fund to save and assist our former colonial masters from economic catastrophe while offering emergency food supply. I mean, he's done you there, hasn't he? He's absolutely done us. Yeah, it's humiliating. it's it's the most humiliating thing possible it's such a good bit as well it's so fun comedically that's fucking hilarious it's absolutely recently like brokers free of colonization and then sending vegetables it's hilarious you know what a woman when she successfully parks

49:51do you know what ed can i can i just shake your hat why don't you shake your hat he starts sending telegrams to he sent a telegram to the queen yeah being like please these vegetables are going off he has introduced this policy in 72 which will uh as like a blanket thing for the union saying your wages will increase with inflation and then inflation and then inflation goes through the roof and you're going we can't afford any of this obviously not so the unions are getting on are out of control and so what he does is he calls an election in February 74 under the moniker who governs Britain us or the unions they're bankrupting your taxes your taxes are basically just going to their pockets and they're turning the lights out but there's a lot of sympathy for the miners yeah because they've got shit jobs because they've got shit jobs and there's just a more there's a kind of traditional sturdiness and also this is you know it's hard for people to imagine nowadays but whole communities are based around a pit yeah yeah well what's kind of fascinating about the nature of work where mining is terrible work yeah but if it gives you a sense of purpose and a role in the community and friends it's far and friends it's like obviously now that it's been replaced by like you work in a sports direct factory which is safer cleaner kind of better work than working down a mine but you don't have that sort of pride it doesn't like yeah big mug though big mark you don't have a town that's built around being we're a sports direct we're a sports direct town yeah i mean you do but they don't call it that it does just show that you just that's the stuff that really matters isn't it but now like you have uh you know people are working like hot desking yeah it's the exact opposite of everyone it's alienated work yeah it's work it's kind of humiliating work in a different way whole communities are based around the fact that everyone works in a shit pit yeah uh and so they all go to the same pub they all go to the same working men's club I mean there's a working man's the money they make from the mine they can afford to have a four bedroom house yeah they have a family of like with five kids the wife doesn't work and they can do that by going down the mine yeah do you think pit will ever become slang for um fanny yeah I think it will actually I think it will they've closed the pits they've closed the pits frigid frigid yeah as soon as you go to the pub you can't get any action fucking Thatcher's closed the pits again oh I see well I'm on a minor strike and by minor I mean M-I-N-O-R I'm only fucking kids till you open the pits what so anytime anytime someone has sex you go scab splitter splitter yeah that is the kind of the cucks the cucks picket yeah picketing other no you're really you're a massive cuck you're kicketing other people if you're picketing other people having sex yeah don't cross the punani line

52:45yeah that's that's he he's picketing anyone else having sex yeah yeah that's how much he has no empathy for it he's asexual why would you want to spend any more time than you need with anyone but my mom yeah exactly any woman just gets in the way of thinking about my mom

53:03so um england don't qualify for the 74 world cup yeah you know england lose the ashes there's the ira start bombing so we're terrible at sport is that at all linked with the economy is it just the lack of confidence we're just the nation is just crumbling you know and so you let's just say you go over a decade right 64 douglas hume this towering figure of politics the country feels good about itself you know the greatest problem we've ever had you go from douglas human 64 to 10 years later you've got um you know if you're if you're a social conservative under douglas you've now got uh being gay is decriminalized abortion the hang hangings gone seat belts um you know speed limits you've now got you're in that you're in the eec but are you immigrate i'm just thinking sort of implying that i'm not no i'm not are you implying that this sort of economic situation is because i'm not decriminalized no i'm not saying the last episode you said too much too soon no i'm just saying for for you know it wasn't because they made get being gay legal that the fucking Arabs turn the lights off.

54:07I'm not saying the three day week is because of homosexuality. Because everyone is too busy noshing everyone off. We can't work. It is funny coincidentally that all these social reforms happen and then the economy collapses. They're not linked but it's funny. We don't know if they're linked. We don't know. We don't know if they're linked. You know hate speech laws are brought in people aren't allowed to be racist. Suddenly they can't go to work because I'm afraid to open my mouth. I'm afraid to open my mouth. They're Greg Wallace. I'll either say something racist or someone will shove a dick in it.

54:37productivity collapses everyone's just gobbling cocks of all races there's a rainbow fucking blowjob orgy going on down there yeah it's a bad optics that they bring in all the social reforms yeah i'm just saying the ass falls out of the country i'm saying if you're a social conservative in 1964 in 10 years your world's gone upside down yeah and no one's asked you about it yeah i'm just saying i'm trying to draw a thread between that lot and that lot today where you know the immigrant like the why is immigration such a hot button issue now it's because no one ever dealt with it and then powell said it he was immediately shut shut down and there's never actually been any like debate beyond that so now it's just this it's this issue that's never going to go away no it's the big issue to be honest for most people it's the but this i want to what i'm trying to say is this is where the immigration issue starts it's late 60s the consensus has now collapsed it's now bipolar it's starting to be yeah i mean the consensus will be dragged out like a fucking end of a toothpaste yeah sixth wank of the day the consensus is just about it's still there but it's dust it's absolute dust so five days before the 1974 the february 74 general election powell delivers this pivotal and explosive speech in birmingham where he declares that the real question at stake in this election is whether britain would quote we remain a democratic nation or whether it will become one province in a New Europe super state, arguing that it was a national duty to oppose those depriving the UK Parliament of its sole authority.

56:04So proto-farage. Yeah, totally. And so Powell tells people to go and vote Labour. Yeah. Right? Points out that the Labour Party's manifesto includes, dum-dum-dum, a referendum on EEC membership. because actually at the time, all the anti-EU stuff is mainly from the left. Tony Benn. Tony Benn, Michael Foote, all that lot. Very anti-EU because they see us becoming just like a vessel for French and German capital. Yeah, exactly. And they see it basically. What the EU does - They think it's a Jewish cabal. Yeah, probably. Because what the EU does, because the far right and the far left hate the EU because the EU, what it does is it solidifies centrism, right?

56:42Sort of technocratic, middle of the road centrism. It holds onto that. So you can't break free. So either way, it doesn't work for both of them. That's why, you know, during Brexit, it would have been great to see Corbyn and Farage having like a bromance. Shaking hands for that. Yeah, in the Rose Garden. Yeah, totally. Because they want the same thing, ultimately. Yeah. So this effectively throws a hand grenade into his own party's campaign. Yeah. Because Heath had taken Britain into the EC without a public mandate. Yeah, while there's literal car bombs going off. There's car bombs going off everywhere.

57:11It's a three-day week except for car bombs where it's a seven-day week. Yeah, the only line is the fucking bombs that are happening. Yeah. So he caused an election in February 1974. Now, narratively, we'll put a pin in that and we'll return. Because 74 is fucking hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. But just Heath is a one-term prime minister. We'll say that. And what we should also mention is that since he died, there have been a slew. How big are these claims? Fairly big claims. All his allies say that Heath had a complete lack of sexuality. he wasn't interested in sex he's asexual he's asexual which he does seem that way then also he could it could be because he's hiding his pedophilia what do you think I think the asexuals are probably pedos you think all asexuals are pedos probably yeah probably they're the good ones that don't do it they're like right I'm a nonce I'm gonna therefore I'm not doing anything with anyone are there pedos who it's literally it's kids or nothing right I'll tell you what this is the difference here you've got in the same way you have incels yeah you have peed cells in that you have in that you have in that you have in that you have in that you have no yeah well yeah you have non-offending pedophiles who are peed cells and you also have involuntary pedophiles which are people they don't want to be pedos they don't want to be pedos but they are but they are but you're a pedo mate well there are seven victim disclosures for which everyone would have been interviewed under caution and they go from 61 to 92 supposedly indecently assaulting men aged between 12 14 10 year old boy toilets paid sexual encounters um it's quite a few different ones yeah there's loads I don't want to we don't need to get into all of them but basically there's a lot there's a lot of allegations what you mean this guy this guy no no Ted big fat Ted no he's not a paedophile um he's an odd man yeah uh so what do you reckon do you think he was one I really don't know it's fucking If he was, he was a paedophile in the 70s when it was fine.

59:19In vogue. I mean, the oversimplified window. The thing is, yes. Every private school, every Latin teacher at any private school is a paedophile to get the job. Yeah, and I think for a geography, if you're a geography or a PE teacher, they whittle it down to three paedophiles and then choose from them who gets the job. Who's the biggest nonce gets the job? The thing is, I think... Savile's on TV just fucking going crazy. Savile's going ape. Savile's running marathons. And also it's because, you know, like the New York blackout, there were so many crimes that happened when all the lights went out.

59:49Three day week. The three day week was just the absolute bloodbath for pedophiles. A carnival of non-sing, the three day week. An absolute carnival. It's a fucking horror film, the 70s. Yeah, it is. It is. And I think this is where our national obsession with pedophilia begins. Yeah. We haven't got over that. I do think this, genuinely. Yeah. I mean this when I say this. Go on. Being a pedophile now is worse than being a pedophile in the 70s. I guess it's because it becomes discredited at some point in the 80s what do you mean that culturally paedophilia is accepted in 1970s Britain like there was a debate whether you could use the n-word in comedy up till like 2008 like Louis was talking about it and then it ended saying no you can't yeah that happened with paedophilia can you molest a young boy and so if Heath is a paedophile I don't think we should judge him by the standards of today yeah I think it was a it was a 1970s relationship trend yeah yeah he was an honorable pedophile it was like prawn cocktail it was just like prawn cocktail it's probably a pedo cocktail you know it's it's an anachronism it's um it's savile it's glitter roe harris this is all that take on heath is yes he's a pedophile but we're all right with it these are pedo

1:01:05so we've got a cuck and we've got a pedo that's post-war british prime ministers um but his his His legacy, he has to be viewed as a failure as a prime minister, of course. He was dealt a bad hand, but he played it phenomenally badly as well. He didn't have political instincts. He was a very smart man and he had right ideas, but he probably shouldn't have been someone like prime minister because I don't think he had the empathy or instincts to navigate politics. Well, any woman MP he's ignoring. Yeah. So he's already not speaking to half the country when he does his addresses because he doesn't see women.

1:01:36Yeah. He's a phenomenally rude man. He's a quite uninspiring leader. And then the fact that Thatcher succeeds him, right? Thatcher informs Heath later on that she is challenging him for the leadership. And he then goes into what is known as, quote, the longest sulk in history. When it's not until Thatcher resigns in 1990 that he finally sort of basically starts talking publicly again. Really? He's just like, he's sulking. He stays in Parliament, but he will not abide. He just can't abide Thatcher. he's literally she's sulking in the commons yeah she's speaking he's just like like a toddler just he's sulking during Thatcher in 19 when Thatcher's removed from power Heath was asked whether the report was true that he called his office and said rejoice rejoice and Heath replied I said it three times he fucking hated her he hated her so he's known as the incredible Sulk yeah because he sulked and he's fat as anything look at that photo there and look at Heath he's just like fucking woman.

1:02:39This fucking, he's the Dalton of Prime Minister. He is. This is why I like him. He's Timothy Dalton of Prime Minister. Look at him. He's fucking livid. He has to do a photo with her. He refused to work closely with her for 25 years. Because she is his education secretary. Yeah. And she actually slashes a lot. She basically kills all grammar schools. Just livid. Just fucking livid. The big Negro is a man of all of the world. When the lunchtime it was clear that at this conference he was down in a popularity state.

1:03:11give us a smile give us a smile off cheer up might never happen so uh yeah that i mean edward heath if we're ranking him i'd say he's an incredibly comforting prime minister in what sense as in just going back because this is where so much of britain's current mindset or inferiority complex no i think it's more that if you look at the early 70s and the late 60s britain has never been more culturally powerful beatles stones yes uh win the world cup in 66 yeah um you know carnaby street all that yeah and yet by 74 like i'm just wondering has there ever been a greater distance between cultural power and economic economic power has power ever gone so far from hard to soft that's yeah has there ever been a quicker deflation of a dick than britain's in 64 to 74 like it's an immediate flaccid it's a cold shower thinking about mummy But then is it sort of like slave songs, the music that came out of that?

1:04:10Yeah. It's the blues. It's Negro spirituals. It's Negro spirituals. Exactly. That's what this is. Like the Beatles. Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath. Their amazing first album, which I only recently got back into since Ozzy Osbourne died. Shout out RIP. But that was in 1970. Right. So it's out of this Britain that some of the best music ever written comes. Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin. The 70s. The Stones. That's crazy. What I mean is that this is slave spirituals for a country that's on its fucking knees. And I will also say that this is where Britain is now in that all we are is a cultural power. We have no actual power in the world at all.

1:04:47We're Japan with worse toilets. We are Japan with no toilets. Right. And this is where this, in my head, this starts is Heath's premiership. So what the complete shift to cultural stuff. All we have is cultural power. because here we completely fuck it. Right. And so that's why I think it's comforting. I love how Rudy is. That's why we can export racist podcasts to the world. It's what we have. We're not exporting anything else. What else are we exporting? We're not exporting. Even the Italians would make better suits than us now. Right. All we're exporting is racist podcasts. So I love Heath because I also love, I don't think we've had a prime minister since who's been so like unpersonable to his colleagues.

1:05:29Yeah. he just hates he just hates them he's a true he's a true Brit he's a true Brit and he's also the guy at school who we all went to school and hate so I'm a big fan of Heath yeah but let's be honest let's be honest it's about to get even worse yeah because we're about to have Harold Wilson come back the tiredest Prime Minister who's ever been in office yeah this is this is the most tired anyone's ever been and it's about to get even looser at the seams yeah we're coming back for Harold Wilson's second term which is possibly the high point or the low point of i don't think democratic politics has ever been so fun as harry waltz in second term uh if you'd like that episode and our final episode of this series where we finally reach 1979 they're both already on the patreon where for three pounds a month you can become a truther and you get access to all our bonus episodes we've done uh bonus episodes on things like the raoul moat yeah manhunt on um we've done boner episodes Zulu special a concert film we've got a live interview with Michael Vittorio that was live that was live we've got loads of bonus goodies we do one a week we do one a week and they're getting better and better Hitler in Brazil Hitler in Brazil which is a classic and concurrent to this series we've been doing the great train robbery and the Thorpe affair which we'll talk a bit about in the next episode but that's wild and we also talk about paedophiles our most controversial that was actually the first time we've gone too much for our listeners was Nambler the North American Man Boy Love Association where we spent 40 minutes talking about a paedophile association.

1:06:55Yeah. And I think their issue was it wasn't historical enough. But if you have got something wrong with you and you have three pounds, which is, you know, it's a tight margin, then get your dad to write in and send a postal check to this PO box and join our patron. Anyway, that's been Ted Heath. We will see you for Howard Wilson's second bite of the cherry next time. Good night. Good night.

1:07:25Thank you.