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1:28Welcome once more to Finn vs. History. I'm joined by Horatio Gould. Stand under with her. Today, there was a little Asian. Yeah, no, it wasn't Asian. It was a guy with a sort of wisp. I've got a lisp. Oh, stand under with her. Put your hands up, please. Yes, because this is a sort of dandy-ish topic. This is Dick Turpin and Highwaymen. I'm going to kill you and assault your wife. Keep it light. Early doors. This is history for fans of Noel Fielding. yeah oh no jokes yeah just a vibe anyway um it's yeah highwaymen yes this is the topic it's it's dandies it's whimsical history fruity rapists fruity rapists i suppose i didn't know much about this and i still don't think i like people who like this no having having although it's funny i don't know if there's enough i don't know enough people are into it to say it's like a niche it's not like that.

2:23There's definitely an aesthetic that is a niche. It's an aesthetic, fine. People who say, rather than saying, do you want to go for a pint and they go, a flagon of ale, maybe? And you go, fuck off. Those people. Do you know who I mean? Do you know anyone like that? No. Come on. A flagon of ale? You hang out with people like that. I don't hang out with anyone who says flagon. You dress like people like that. Yeah, but I've never heard the word flagon. Maybe it's a mead today? And you go, fuck off. What are you? Mead stinks as well. Mead sucks. Yeah, it does. It really sucks. And also, I reckon people who like this topic really smell yeah is it the sort of person who says like my lord yes my leech yes my leech fuck off i hate i hate those people it's sort of on the road to steampunk exactly it's jack the ripper it's titanic it's on the way to it yeah that's something dick turpin the dandiest georgian highway because i guess like the sort of i don't know star wars artist there's like an honesty there you know the comic book guy there's a purity you know what i mean he's it's space it's like it's like you know figurines going into each other it's not he's not presenting himself as anything but a big fat nerd yes you know what i mean yeah but this sort of like i'm sort of a gentleman oh you know foppish yeah foppish wearing waistcoats and stuff like that it's like you don't know what you are is it gay autism is that why it's confusing gortism gortism well as i think we discussed this on a scale of autism i think if you're white straight it's the easiest to pick up autism yes and the further you get away from white straight the harder it is to spot yeah so black autism very hard what is what does that look like blotism it's big the blotism is big and to be honest there's a lot of people i think if you're white you assume every social interaction that you fucked it up with a black person right yes you're like i'm ned flanders i'm you know i'm a loser i don't actually i'm very confident every time i reckon i can say this but i'm not autistic but when you keep when i've met some of these guys a couple of times then you're like oh no he has autism yeah but you don't get white person out the gate yeah right obviously women it's more disguised so black female autists very hard hard spot takes a formidable yeah hidden figures yeah you votes black women with autism are the you boats i was gonna say i tell you what black autism is why are you gay that's black autism yeah because that's a mad thing to ask someone yeah i guess so that's an autistic question no but it's on the i think the black autistic uh culture is on the rise is it it's coming through the love of anime that's a very that's that's been intertwined with black culture yeah there's like a real like they're kind of like they get a lot of passes but they're they're getting really into nerd culture i think i think it's rising up tiger woods do you reckon he's autistic i think he's i think he's mixed race yeah i'm not saying it's not one or the other he's not one or the other no he's not he's not he's not he's not constantly wearing black tie he is black tie yeah yeah or black japanese blapanese yeah blapanese i think blapanese that's a lovely word to say blapanese staccato dick turpin and highwayman the now there's something peculiarly english about this fascination of um you know why is it that the english loved armed robbery when it's done politely yes there's a peculiarly english fascination there's something about a level of dissent but done within the rules of a gentleman's kind of code of conduct the idea that you are breaking the rules but doing it in a kind of in the fashion of someone who sticks to the rules it's a very english phenomenon sorry totally such in dick turnip which really changes the vibe it was dick turnip that's that's what i've got going on down there i've got a dick turnip it's the same letters but in a slightly different order completely changes maybe that was his name dick turnip dick no turnip dick that turnip dick that doesn't really work at all that's like is that what they say hitler had yeah well that's just come out that's just come out and obviously we might as well i have been assaulted in the last 36 hours with this uh reel from the times about how hitler had a micropenis uh they've sequenced his dna i'll be yeah i'll be getting sent at the whole time and uh apparently they've taken a bit of occupational hazard i guess sofa yeah it comes to the territory um i don't hate it no but i i almost i almost feel like i need to set up a separate email address for all hitler correspondents what would you call the email address would be like um hitler faqs at fumble ruski.com hitler news hitlerinfo um dot de obviously anyway um or dot nz no that's new zealand yeah anyway uh so the news is that they've got found an allied soldier in the 40s found a bit of sofa from the bunker with his blood on it and they finally sequenced hitler's dna and they think they might have this thing called calvin syndrome which is means you puberty are stunted and you he might have not it might actually only had one ball well that people have talked about that for a while yeah that's been around a micro penis yeah but i really find it funny how they presented the information as if that explains everything right oh okay we all know guys with small cocks are overcompensating he just did it in a very weird way i mean overcompensating is one thing i mean is that's over that's over over overcompensating i mean that's really overcompensating it's like as if the jews are in charge of penis size yeah like what as if it's like well you've proved it then yeah fine okay sorry you don't have a small dick yeah and he's what he hates jews because they're circumcising and they're taking length off and he finds that arrogant he's got a small i mean i don't understand what possible...

7:49Because the entitlement to think you can lock a bit off. You could lose a length. Who are these arrogant Jews? We must kill them! You know, it's crazy. Anyway, that we're not talking about Hitler's micropenis. We're talking about... But we need to deal with that. We're not talking about turnip dick either. Although we don't know whether Dick Turbin had a micropenis. No. He probably didn't. Or a turnip. Or a turnip for a dick. I don't know. Anyway, where are we in the world? We are in England, thank God, in the 18th century. this is the time that Dick Turnip fucking hell, Dick Turnip let's just call him Dick Turnip let's not always call him Dick Turnip his name but I do think not Braddish I do think that Dick Turpin if he was kimchi pussy sorry?

8:32go on he's already been ashamed say that again you were instantly ashamed what did you just say? kimchi pussy kimchi pussy do you think that's a Japanese Hyrum one is it? I don't know kimchi pussy fermented Fermented cabbage pussy. Yeah. Pussy kimchi. That's Korean highwayman. Yeah. Right. So Korean carjacking. Oh, bloody hell. Kimchi pussy's on the lose again. I mean, if it was a really terrifying guy, that would be a really scary name. Kimchi pussy. I don't think it would actually. I don't think I'd be that scared. Oh my God. It's kimchi pussy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Hide. Kimchi pussy's here.

9:07It's kimchi. I do think of Dick Turpin. Well, the name's pussy. Kimchi pussy. i do think if he was known as if he was known in history as richard turpin we would not be talking about right because richard turpin works in hr or like fucking data management my name's richard turpin yeah yeah my name is richard turpin i work in data management dick dick turpin again it's cheeky you know not cock turpin that's vulgar you know throbbing dick turpin but once again this goes in the lineage of uh the romanticization of rapists of the past it does yeah we talked about it in the piracy series yeah uh dress up uh for kids birthdays dick turpin definitely would be in the roster right yes highwayman of course goes pirates vikings you name it it's all this is a similar age to the golden age of piracy yeah is uh but i guess maybe the counter point of that point is maybe all men were raping all the time so it's sort of like anything anyone from the past yes yeah exactly put a flag anywhere men will be raping um yeah you're i guess you're assuming that we've kind of progressed past yeah yeah um yeah i don't believe we have i don't want to speak for all women but i i imagine there's still a bit of fruitiness going on put it mildly um what was he charged for fruitiness my word anyway christ we are in england in the 18th century uh in the 1730s so to place this for our thick fat listeners this is after martin luther and it's before martin luther burger king which is what i call body positive activists so before the body positivity movement yes yeah before um malcolm xxl martin luther burger king whatever you want to call them big is beautiful apart from if i had to sleep with another big person then it's not can i please the skinny person can i also take that drug that just makes me lose weight without me having to do anything thank you brilliant this episode of fin versus history is brought to you by surf shark now you use vpns don't you yes i do you have to nowadays you've got to in modern britain it's impossible to access anything that's not just mary berry cutting a cake exactly but you know the internet's changed it's not like you're not just surfing the web it's dangerous out there so much of life is out you know on the internet you've got to protect yourself but also i'm i'm a straight white man from the you know home counties.

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14:36But the golden age of the High Women kicks off because the English Civil War creates these conditions. Is a part of British history that I don't feel is that talked about? It's a bit of a transition period. Well, yeah, because you have the Georgian period You have the Tudors and all that Stuart stuff. And then Cromwell. Civil War and then Industrial Revolution, Victorian age. Or the Georgian, yeah. Romanticism. This period doesn't really... The 100 years or 1650, 1750 is quite... You can't really place it. There's not really many things to jump on. Yeah. Because it was a bit of a confusing period.

15:05You've got William of Orange, you've got the Restoration, and then you have the Golden Age of Satire. I might want you to use 15 years. But in 1651, this is when Cromwell sort of decisively... decisively so he's chopped off um charles the first's head at this point right and in 1651 there are now thousands of disenfranchised royalist cavalrymen unemployed armed to the teeth and very useful with uh horses and pistols so it's like the london dungeons closed down and suddenly there are a bunch of that's who these people are people who work at the fucking london dungeons i hate them they think they're so clever because they jump out you boo fuck off i'd love to go through London Dungeons with a cricket bat and just smack them all for four.

15:48I'd love to see you get arrested. It's like next. Comedian Finn Taylor plays whack-a-mole with the poor working actors at the London Dungeon. Boo! Bang! Cover drive. Next. Just walking through. Just shadow batting fucking unemployed actors pretending, thinking they're so big and clever because they've got a top hat on and they're scary. Anyway, what's this, Charlie? London Dungeons apologise for upsetting tweets. What have they jack the ripper just messaged he wants to netflix and kill right well so when was this 2017 because i live in jack the ripper land right so i've got jack the ripper tours outside my front door all the time there is a barber shop called jack the clipper yes that's pretty good it is good but it's also jack the ripper was what did rape a lot he raped his victims but it does seem kind of funny he also may have been a barber as we discussed in the series yeah so i mean it works but it is it's kind of funny the way that it's like he may have been the worst pun yeah if he was a hairdresser he was the worst hairdresser of all time like it's calling a barber shop hairy weinstein yeah yeah as i'm a bin taken if you could do like some have been taken taken what's what it's taken what's no what do you tell your barber like a bin man if a bin as i'm a bin taken as i'm a bin man yeah i'm a bin man yeah uh well you run a private refuse collection company called Osama.

17:08Yeah. I mean, that's pretty good. That's good. So the English Civil War creates these conditions. And so the great age of highway robbery, it peaks from sort of the 1650s It's quite a lawless period. Yes, it is. The kind of, the idea of a strong state has been, everything's up for grabs. No one really knows what's going on. No. There's a lot of changes in the air. And there's no law enforcement, really. And there's lots of roads. People are travelling more than ever because transport's getting easier. People are leaving the countryside to go to the cities more than ever. But there's no lights on the roads.

17:42There's no street. This is pre-street lamp, which is crucial. Isolated villages. It was so dangerous that travelers wrote wills before journeys. So if you went from London to Oxford, you'd write your will. That's how stressed it was. These big coaching routes. Now, what is it, Charlie, can you find out how many people are in a coach in this day and age? Because this is just, in my head, it's like four. well I'm imagining like a mega bus well I don't know what 87 no that's that's a you've just you've googled mega bus capacity I want to know in the 1650s how many people could fit in a coach you were just added 100 years to what Finn asked four horses yeah but design six passengers thank you so that's a that's a low bad economy almost that's a minivan isn't it it's like a four horses for six people that's an uber xl basically yeah yeah and so imagine an uber pool back then so you just had to kind of swing by, pick up random people.

18:35God, they're beaving. Have you got a will? Have I got a will? Yeah. Why do you point at me like that? You're not in it. Right. Did you genuinely think you were? I don't know. Have you written a will? Yes, I've got kids. We've been trying to get my dad to write a will. He's not written a will? That's hilarious. No, he hasn't. He won't do it. He's too scared of death. What, do you think wills will work nonsense? I think part of me, I think it's just like, if he does it, he'll die. Do you know what I mean? Okay, yeah. Otherwise he will it into existence. I see, right. I think he might have just written a will, but there's taken the will.

19:03I didn't know, that's smart to do it immediately. Well, it's not smart. If you just die, then the government just take everything. Do they? Yeah, basically. Is that how it works? Yeah. Should I write a will then? Yeah. I'm not writing one. I'm not, it feels weird writing a will now. Can you just put it in a Google Doc? It's funny to... Can I just write my final will in test? You have to leave everything to BB. Yeah. She wouldn't know what to do with it. Well, I don't have to. No. It's my fucking, I can do what I want with it right it's my work don't leave it to him he wouldn't know what to do with it either I'm not here anymore I just cause chaos yeah give me something yeah give it to give it to the free Weinstein jail fund fuck it is that is that a legitimate fund set it up set it up oh we're going to set it up alright we're going to use all my earthly possessions yeah sell them and set up the Harvey Weinstein free free fund fuck it I'm not here anymore yeah yeah you deal with it I don't care about legacy so So Hyde Park becomes notorious for highwaymen.

19:59So this is a period where London is so much smaller, right, that all of these areas that we're used to are the suburbs. Well, they're not even that. They're like villages. So like Finchley and Hampstead. Hampstead Heath, I think. Hampton was knocking about. Walthamstow Forest, Epping Forest, all of these. These aren't areas of London. These are nearby villages. Tottenham's a village. It still is, in my opinion. in 1690 William III orders Hyde Park to be lit by 300 oil lamps this is one of the first lit highways in Britain lit highway brother yeah because the danger is so bad so what is a stagecoach it's a four wheel public carriage and it provided scheduled passenger transport travelling in stages that's why it's called a stagecoach so it's the fastest mode of transport at the time but it became a huge target for gangs and thieves and one thing we must say about um dick turpin is that a lot of highwayman law yeah it's attributed to him but we need to separate the fact from the fiction that's quite a hard thing to do do we know much about him yeah we know we do okay well what's quite funny is this sort of you know the dandy-ish a flag of mead that nonce right what he likes about dick turpin is not dick turpin at all the actual richard turnip yeah was was a was a brutal murderer yeah of course but he's been romanticised to such an extent.

21:19Yeah, he's a fucking crook. He's Gavin Plum. Yeah, he is. Nonces who wear neckerchiefs kind of go to fancy dress parties. So the gallant highwayman sort of starts, we think, with a guy called Claude Duval. Right. Who's a French cunt. Sounds like a chef. Yeah, he does. But that's just because he's French. I mean, any French name sounds like a chef. No. Go on. Jacques. Bad start. In the box. Jacques in the box. Jacques in the box. Jacques in the box. Jacques in the box. That sounds like a toy. Jacques in the box. Yeah. So hang on. So you go to a restaurant and they say the chef is Monsieur Jacques in the Box.

21:53Oh, that sounds nothing like a chef. Yeah. That sounds like a chef. What do you mean? There's a cheap Christmas toy cooking my steak. Jacques in the Box. Jacques in the Box. Right. So Claude Duval is a French-born servant to Royalists who turns into a robber. And he's known because he sort of has this courteous style and he refuses to harm his victims. Right. The most famous episode, supposedly he holds up a coach with a nobleman and a nobleman's lady in it. And now this is quite a strange thing. Determined not to appear afraid, the lady takes out a recorder and starts playing. She was back to the corner.

22:30She had no choice. Which would make me just shoot her in the head. Because I fucking hate recorders. So it's trying to be a show of confidence. Yeah, I'm not bothered. Bang, how's that? But then Duval then takes one out of his own. I don't know why he's, why is everyone walking around with fucking recording? It's all the time. Everyone's got like a... An annoying time. And they probably pulled it out of a frilly sleeve. Like a magician. Do they have really big frilly cuffs? Yes, I think so. Oh, Christ. Because that would just get covered in food. Covered in, yeah. Food and piss. Imagine if I'm trying to piss with a huge foreskin over your wrist.

23:06A frilly cuff would look nice for one day. And then you'd have... You'd just know what I've done that entire day. It'd be awful. Written on my cuff. Difficult enough. You know how many times I've taken a shit, how many times I've pierced what I've had for breakfast. You're fucking wiping your ass with a frilly cuff. would be a nightmare. We don't have to wipe your ass with it. No, I mean, no reason, wiping your ass. Oh, right. Yeah, don't use it as... But how are they wiping their ass? Have they got a stick or something? No, they use the frilly cuff bit. That's rank. That's what it's for. It's just your...

23:27It's just toilet paper. It's a full toilet roll. You just have it. You have a sort of foreskin over your wrists, this huge floppy hood that you wipe your ass with, you wipe your nose. Yeah, it's like a... Yeah, it's a multi-purpose. Awful. Yeah. Anyway, so she plays the recorder. He plays the recorder as well. and then he comments and then the guy starts beatboxing this is the start of busking he comments to the noble that his wife played the recorder very well and would he like a dart would he let her dance with him this is like a beginning of a porno I know on the recorder it's and they dance on the heath and when they were done Duval Escorzo into the coach and then he says that it was like one of the nicest dancers he's ever had he was charmed by it But the husband had neglected to pay him for the music.

24:14And so he stole 400 pounds from him. So it's like a compliment sandwich, isn't it? Yes. I guess. Yeah. They're then thinking, oh, well, he was a nice guy. He's taken all my money. He's taken all my money. It's a bit like Nana's getting scammed. Yeah. Like, oh, what a lovely, what a lovely young man. Young man from India, that was. Yeah, a lovely young man. And then three days later, when they check the bank account, oh, right, it's all gone. That happened to Amanda once. That happened to my wife. Yeah. Really? Monzo. Yeah. How much? Quite a lot. and I had to call Andrew because he worked to get him to help but it was funny because she was on the phone for ages it was a family holiday she was on the phone for ages and I was outside listening to Ben Stokes thwack it about at Lord's on a sun lounge just ignoring everything and then that's what cricket's for that's what cricket's for and her dad and her brother were all random she's like there's something a bit weird about this call and they were like oh it's fine it's fine and then if I was in there I'd be like hang up they don't call you they don't call you that's what you've got to remember but Ben Stokes was absolutely hammering the Aussies at the time.

25:13I got, I got scammed out of 150 pounds. Right. That's all there was in the Mundo. And they were getting shitty with me as well. But I'm now so, basically if anyone calls me saying from anyone, fuck off, fuck off. And even if they go, if it's important, verify in the app, fuck off. No, don't call me. Don't call me. Don't call me. Don't text me. Oh, it's my money. I mean, I love people who scam scammers though. That is such good stuff. What? Like, um, cycling Mikey kind of thing. No, no, the people, are people who scam him? No, and he's kind of, he's a prick. I know he's a prick, but it's the same term justice.

25:45those mass scamming factories that in like the Philippines or India where they all are in one room and they're trying to trick old ladies out of their money. Yeah. But there's a guy who has like an old lady voice distorter and then just takes them on for like a two hour ride. Yeah. And then steals money from their bank accounts because he's so good at hacking. Oh, right. He like finds their information. He hacks into the CCTV of the building they're in and sends pictures of them to them. Who are these people? It's like, and then it has them beg. It is absolutely incredible. I've not seen it yet.

26:14But it's also great if, like, Paddy's mum, she always, like, keeps scammers on the phone for as long as possible. Yeah. And plays dumb. And then at the end, doesn't do it. And then they always, like, they'll be polite to you until the end. And they go, fuck you, fuck you, bitch. Fuck you, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck you, bitch. You've wasted your time as well then. No, but it's kind of, you know, it's fun to rile them up. It is fun to roll them up. Yeah. I do take a lot of my anger out. Oh, fuck off, bitch. I take a lot of my anger out on customer service people. Yeah. I do. Anyway, so this is another story from Claude Duval, not Jacques Inza Box.

26:46He sees a wealthy farmer with a bag full of money. At this time, people are just walking around with bags of money. So imagine how Charlie walks around just with cash in a wet plastic bag. I'm just going to the bank. Just coins. Just coins. you know when people go to Sains with a bag of coins to put in a machine to transmit that's Charlie's actual wallet it's a wet bag full of coins bag for life and leaves no that's your bag of life that's all your life is in there all my stuff keys coins will will sweets sweets anyway so he sees in Beaconsfield which again I've said this before the best services there is fuck T-Bay Beaconsfield's where you are okay so do you say T-Bay is considered the best T-Bay is aesthetically amazing.

27:32There's ducks, whatever. Beaconsfield, there's a fucking spoons in a services. Right. That is irresponsible. Knowing the people that are driving that route, that is irresponsible. The amount of DUIs that must be happening from Beaconsfield services. Right. Anyway, to create a distraction, now what's an Osler? It says he bribes an Osler. I don't know what an Osler is. A person who looks after the horses. Okay. A horse wrangler. Phoebe typed that in a very weird way after the horses he's capitalized after the horses the person who looks after the horses alright Christ I didn't know Phoebe came from a long line of oscillers and she's fucking livid I didn't know what an osciller was anyway so he bribes one of these horse botherers to lower a mastiff dressed up in a cowhide with horns down a chimney and then this mad disguised dog creates a panic amongst the people in the pub because they think it's the devil who's just come barking out of a fireplace.

28:28I mean, yeah, to be fair. And he runs in and steals the money. To be fair, if you had like a dog dressed as a fucking horse coming, a cow coming out of the fire. But this is like the original kind of like YouTube prank, isn't it? Right, yeah. Let's get a dog, dress him up as a cow with horns, shove him into a pub. Everyone would go, ah, fuck. And then he steals the money. Logan Paul in the suicide forest. And it says here, Duval was loved by women of all classes and was always impeccably dressed. Well, yeah, that's obviously he's written that now. This is when you know it's like, yeah, every woman loved me.

28:54Yeah, exactly. they can't get enough they can't get enough no matter who they are whatever you've got to tell yourself posh totty or tart they fucking can't get enough and he ends up captured while he's pissed at a tavern and executed despite attempts by Charles II to save him because I guess he's you know this idea is that true? we don't know I guess but then Charles this is yeah this is Dan Decentral this is Dan Decentral yeah and he was a bit the royalist with the fruitier side right this is the gayest England's ever been right yeah that's why I'm uncomfortable here I can't wait to get to the 19th century when it's considered an illness.

29:27Yeah, when you put burkas on chair legs because they're too... Get rid of them. I can't sit in a chair without getting a throb on. Chairs are too horny. Cover them up. Anyway, there's a supposed memorial for where he's buried, which says, Here lies Duval. Reader, if male thou art, look to thy purse. If female, to thy heart. Much havoc has he made for both. For all men he made to stand and women he made to fall. The second conqueror of the Norman race. Getting a bit racial there, isn't it? Yeah. Anyway. But at this point, in the 1600s, that's pretty light fair. I suppose so. What is it, Charlie?

30:06Is the highwayman sort of like a nasty Samaritan? No. The bad Samaritan? The bad Samaritan. Explain that thought. Well, they're both on the road, but the Samaritan's nice, and the highwayman is nasty. Well, I guess the fact that they're both on roads. Everyone's on a road at some point. Yeah. They're not defined by the road. Samaritans are defined by the road. No, in the original story, they are. And what about now? But actually, in the original story, a Samaritan is a tribe, right? And the word now means someone who helps you because of that Bible story. Yeah, but from the original thing, the good Samaritan, that archetype, it probably is the opposite.

30:42He's on the road all the time. No, no, Google what Samaritan is. Because there's a guy who's basically harassing you with good stuff on the road. Well, it's a charity mugger. It's with a tin. Spare a penny for the blind. fuck off what's the same no it's not the same it's the opposite it's bad Santa no it's not bad Santa Ty if you're if you're going to jump off a bridge you don't call bad Santa or good you don't even call good Santa you call the Samaritans yeah but if you and if you're trying to kill yourself you call the highway man no Santa doesn't stop you from killing yourself he delivers presents I can see what Charlie's saying yeah no I get what you're being obtuse no I'm not you're being thick Impossible.

31:23Can you Google who were the Samaritans originally? Yeah, but we don't mean the tribe. Obviously, we don't mean the tribe. No, but that's what I mean. These are like tribes. Why he's confused is he thinks the word Samaritan is someone who just stands on a road. But who was the good Samaritan? They're an ancient type of Jew, right? I don't know anything about that. That's what I'm talking about. You don't know anything. You're thick. They were an ancient type of Jew. Old Jews. And the parable of the good Samaritan is an old Jew who stopped by the road. And we say, when you're going to kill yourself, call the Samaritans.

31:55We don't say, call the Jews. That would be mad. Sort of like a Mel Brooks kind of thing. Nowadays, they're probably not going to help. Right? What's that supposed to mean? Well, it's satire about Gaza. Fair enough. Yeah. Do I need to spell it out?

32:13Thought I bet you were uncomfortable there. No. Fuck off. Nogs in the dungeons. Get to fuck. cover drive six it's about gaza fuck off fuck off next no i'm not writing a will i don't want to die if you write one you'll die um that's very funny your dad thinks writing a will will make you immediately die it's like it's not a suicide note is that what he thinks it is he thinks will is a suicide note it's not too dissimilar no so my point is that a samaritan is now not the word now means someone who helps you but originally it's someone who's a type of jew listeners will decide who's right. I think they'll go with me for this one.

32:51I don't think they will. We'll see. Let's hope. We'll set up a poll. Yes. High women are the opposite to that one bloke. The good Samaritan. Who's the only Samaritan anyone knows? No, it's not. Famously, Samaritans are now a charity. So we're named after that bloke. I think it's like a generational. Yeah, maybe it's a generational. It's a Gen Z thing. No, I think it's that you're fucking thick.