In short
Harold Macmillan’s premiership (1957–1963), framed through domestic prosperity (“You’ve never had it so good”), decolonization and the push toward Europe, and how sexual/gay-related scandals eroded his “Super Mac” reputation.
Guest backgrounds
Horatio Gould (host/participant) and another co-host (Fin vs. History regular). Both use contemporary satire and political commentary; the episode includes extensive banter and jokes rather than formal guest bios.
Key claims
Macmillan is portrayed as a “gentleman” whose public persona is partly artifice; his personal life is treated as a major vulnerability (including claims about his wife’s long affair and a daughter possibly fathered by Robert Boothby). Politically, the episode argues Macmillan’s biggest strategic bet was joining the EEC, which was later blocked by de Gaulle. It also claims decolonization was rapid (“winds of change”) and that apartheid shaped British policy.
Notable examples
Suez aftermath and Eisenhower nuclear missile offer; the 1959 election slogan “Life’s better with the Conservatives”; the “winds of change” speech; de Gaulle’s veto of UK entry to the EEC; the Vassall spy scandal (gay blackmail and KGB spying); and the start of the Profumo affair (Christine Keeler linking Profumo and Soviet Ivanov).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMacmillan's Domestic Policies
2:06 to 3:14
Discussion of Harold Macmillan's domestic policies from 1957 to 1963.
“You're going to need a protective layer of pants underneath your normal pants.”
The Cuckolded Prime Minister
3:14 to 4:32
Exploration of the personal life of Macmillan and societal changes.
Cultural Shifts and Macmillan's Era
4:32 to 6:20
Analysis of the cultural shifts during Macmillan's premiership.
“I mean, it's as juicy as it gets from my point of view.”
Entertainment and Politics
6:20 to 8:53
Discussion on the impact of entertainment like Eurovision during Macmillan's time.
“And it's before the invention of the rabbit sex toy?”
Entertainment and Politics
11:53 to 13:03
Discussion on the impact of entertainment like Eurovision during Macmillan's time.
“In modern Britain, it's impossible to access anything that's not just Mary Berry cutting a cake.”
Entertainment and Politics
13:08 to 13:47
Discussion on the impact of entertainment like Eurovision during Macmillan's time.
“then you will get four extra months of Surfshark.”
Post-War British Cuisine
13:47 to 14:01
The introduction of diverse cuisines in post-war Britain.
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Cultural Shifts in Post-War Britain
14:33 to 17:41
Explore how post-war immigration influenced British cuisine and culture.
“Butlins has introduced chop suey and chips to holiday camps.”
Harold Macmillan: The Cuck Prime Minister
17:41 to 22:39
Delve into the life of Harold Macmillan and his unconventional marriage.
“But he gets expelled from homosexuality.”
Macmillan's Political Maneuvering
22:39 to 28:00
Learn about Macmillan's rise to power and political strategies during his premiership.
“Yes but I'm not going to I'm not going to throw my dealer out into the open.”
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Commonwealth and the Rise of EEC
28:00 to 29:50
Explore how the Commonwealth's decline influenced Britain's relationship with Europe.
“But then apartheid kicks off and he's like, well, I don't think this is us actually.”
Macmillan's Leadership and Economic Challenges
29:50 to 31:00
Discuss Macmillan's economic policies and the impact of trade unions during his tenure.
The Shift in British Foreign Policy
31:00 to 33:15
Analyze the changes in British foreign policy and Macmillan's views on de Gaulle and Europe.
“Because they win the peace unbelievably well.”
Decolonization and the Winds of Change
33:15 to 35:56
Investigate the rapid decolonization of British territories and Macmillan's speech on national consciousness.
“And they think, right, this is the end of empire.”
Scandals and the End of Macmillan's Tenure
37:26 to 42:00
Delve into the scandals, including the Vassall scandal, that contributed to Macmillan's decline.
“I mean, they seem to be going on pretty well.”
Exploring Euphonic Sayings
42:00 to 43:35
Discussing the meaning of phrases and societal implications related to sexuality.
“Oh yeah, that's about as gay as it gets.”
Categories of Hidden Homosexuals
43:35 to 45:03
Discussion about different societal perceptions and categories of concealed homosexuality.
“They are everywhere and they can be anybody.”
The Vassal Scandal and Super Mac
45:03 to 47:26
Analyzing the impact of the Vassal scandal on Harold Macmillan's reputation.
“But this undermines the Super Mac reputation for competence.”
The Profumo Affair: A Political Scandal
47:26 to 48:48
Examining the details and ramifications of the Profumo affair in British politics.
“John Profumo is the Secretary of State for War and he meets 19-year-old Christine Keeler at a pool party in Buckinghamshire in 1961.”
Consequences of the Profumo Affair
48:48 to 55:41
Discussing the fallout from the Profumo affair and the decline of public trust in politicians.
“But anyway, Profumo lies to parliament in 63, denying any impropriety with Keeler.”
Macmillan's Health and Resignation
55:41 to 56:06
Linking Harold Macmillan's health issues to his political downfall.
“there's another premiership that ends in crisis, but it's also to simultaneously, they're so ill that they have to go anyway.”
Macmillan's Prostate and Political Humor
56:06 to 57:21
Exploring the humorous and serious aspects of Macmillan's health issues and their political implications.
The Dawn of Modern British Comedy
57:21 to 59:38
Discussing the shift in British comedy and its relation to political satire during Macmillan's tenure.
“Modern British comedy starts basically here.”
Macmillan's Political Legacy
59:38 to 1:02:38
Analyzing Macmillan's legacy, domestic policies, and their impact on post-war Britain.
“It's reaching to the 60s into a kind of seemingly quite rare boom period post-war.”
Transcript
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1:47Welcome back to Fin vs. History. I'm here with Horatio Gould. You've never had it so good. Today we're talking Harold Macmillan. Yes. We are into part five of our marathon through the post-war British Prime Ministers. Girls, wear extra pants today. It's an hour on Harold Macmillan. Double up. Double up, ladies. You're going to need a protective layer of pants underneath your normal pants. The boys are talking about Harold Macmillan. 1957 to 1963 domestic policies. My God. I can hear the frothing twats from here. It's like the Niagara Falls. Oh, ladies, if you would, just please double up on your pants.
2:32We're about to make wry, witty observations about Harold McMillan's domestic policies. He's one of my favourite prime ministers, I think. Oh, yeah. I do. Actually, there's a lot here. No, I do. There's a lot here. It's actually good. And our audience will be fucking grateful for the feed, actually. More? More? You want more? Less? Slinging bread. Less? You want less? Less? You don't want less. You want more. It's McMillan. McMummy Lynn I think You've never had it so good as his most famous quote You've never had it And that's how I feel to the fucking audience You've never had it so soggy You've never had it so bad I genuinely feel like this is the first premiership we've got to where today's audience would recognise how it felt I think To what?
3:13To like modern premierships Yes I think it's a recognisably modern premiership Sex scandals Sex scandals Cuckoldry Cuckoldry You know deference is gone yeah people are thinking oh you're all the fucking same yeah yeah how people feel about harold mcmillan is i imagine how people feel similar to the beginning of the line of getting to the point where they're all the fucking not another one another one yeah brenda from bristol is saying that about how but it's just what she's saying that about is what he's been cuckolded again not another one he's watching another one fuck his wife i think looking up i didn't know much about mcmillan but he's actually quite interesting it's fascinating i also think it's the real hinge point in like the the kind of old world new work new britain this is the real hinge because it was almost like it wasn't he would have been a better prime minister if he'd maybe gone to power 10 years earlier maybe or in a different period the main thing that happened was the times left him and he couldn't adapt yeah and his wife left him and his wife left him quite a lot left and he did adapt to be fair to that he adapted very well yeah i mean that's very well she was having an affair with one of his ministers for 30 years 30 and and supposedly fathered his his um his youngest daughter but he just cracked on yeah it's the definition of stiff upper lip yeah he really is he's the last gentleman to be in in uh he's the most gentleman we've ever he's the he's the classiest guy we've ever had as prime minister yeah in that he was a 30 year test cricket cup yeah 30 years but also 30 years the idea of the gentleman has become cartoonish and he plays up to that yes he actually isn't a lot of it is artifice he knows that he's playing up to it he's not a true like i feel with eden yeah there was a seriousness and a sincerity to his well you think mermillian's playing up definitely do you think yeah definitely that was a huge part of it was this kind of like throwback to an earlier time he's like you know he's got an english mom and american dad but he claims a scottish ancestry yes like he a lot of it is just all artifice he really plays up this kind of kind of cartoonish version of a gentleman for sure is that you see throughout his career as well that he is very like calculated he's unflappable he's um yeah well as cucks are yeah they're not easily flustered no by dicks raining down on their spouse they do yeah they have not touched flaps in years yeah they're unflapped yeah exactly in all senses of the word they're fully flap dodgers they're flap watchers yeah um and yet it's so ironic isn't it that for a a prime minister who is literally not getting any to be undone by a sex scandal.
5:46I mean, it's as juicy as it gets from my point of view. The cuck's burden. The cuck's burden. No sex, but sex ruins your life. Yeah, that's Kipling's famous novel, The Cuck's Burden. So let's place this for the thickos. We're in 1957 when Rilland comes to power. So 1957, that is... So that would be, I guess that would be after the invention of the washing machine? Yes, can we just confirm that, Charlie? But I do believe washing machines are around, and I think people are using them. 1851. What about the modern one? 1937 was the automatic washing machine. And it's before the invention of the rabbit sex toy?
6:30Yes, again, something that Millen would never have laid eyes on. Let's have a look. The idea of the rabbit originally, early 1980s. Can we get a picture of the rabbit vibrator? Lovely. Now, that does make me feel fairly redundant anatomically, because they've got it seems to have two dicks yeah which if that's what women want then what is the point of a man well do you need another fella in there i guess so two fellas in there well that's what harold mcmillan realized but the japanese they're you know they're all innovators in the 80s they're really trying a lot of stuff so i guess it really no englishman would have thought of this what the that the top bit yeah that that's not that the english mind can comprehend something like that it still can't i don't think i think the english the english gentleman's mind are still astounded by the rabbit toy right but again to get it back on topic mcmillan straddles the two eras yes of no but stuff but stuff right 57 63 yeah we're getting into the butty decade he straddles it but it's not like he's got a foot in each column no he's very much from the old world he's got a foot in neither column yeah he's wandered into a sex party in a three-piece suit.
7:36With a monocle going, my God, have some respect, which is what I feel like. So I feel a lot of, I relate to Macmillan. I relate to Macmillan a lot. So in turn, Macmillan is known for this famous saying, you've never had it so good. Yeah. Because he governed during a period of economic prosperity. But of course, there were cracks underneath it all because we just had Suez. But by economic prosperity, everyone's got a telly. Yeah. And so people are happy. Yeah. Because this country is thick as shit. Yeah. And if you put a telly in front of them, it doesn't matter what's going on. Yeah. You know, it's fine.
8:06Right. Well, just being alive for kind of ever had been absolutely awful. Yeah, that's true. And now it was kind of like just a bit shit. Yeah. So it is like the 50s is extraordinary change from basically if you're poor, life has been absolutely awful forever. It's always been fucking terrible. And now you've got a telly where you can watch people do stuff and it's all right for a bit. Yeah. So and what are they doing on the telly? they have got Eurovision begins in 1956. Who wins the first Eurovision? Switzerland. Right. Okay, because it's interesting. Obviously, the thing is that we always lose Eurovision.
8:43Yeah. Get up the leaderboards of the most wins in Eurovision. Ireland and Sweden. Seven victories. Follow closely. France five. We're tied third place with Luxembourg. Fuck off. Israel four. Yeah, they like winning. Fucking hell. When was Israel admitted? Oh, I don't want to go down that road. For me, that's the most controversial thing they've done is join Eurovision. How they've got into Eurovision. I guess they're the chosen people. I mean, the West Bank's one thing, but Eurovision, they're not anywhere near Europe. Yeah, but it's said in the Old Testament. Oh, they had to join Eurovision. Yeah, the settlers.
9:20They were part of Eurovision 5 ,000 years ago. Of course they were. Yeah, of course. The first Eurovision. So Blue Peter starts in 58. here we go did you watch Blue Peter growing up obviously I watched Blue Peter growing up Katie Hill Connie Huck woof that's in the slot I think actually this is fat Taylor this is fat Horny Taylor dreaming of Katie Hill Katie Hill and Connie Huck this is stud pig this is stud pig stud pig Taylor watch out Katie Hill there's a violent stud pig just rutting waiting to charge at you you broke a lot of tellies with the amount of humping you were doing yeah I was rutting rutting the TV katie hill who did a uh she did a toothpaste advert after she left blue peter in a in a very low cut top that's what i remember this is early this is kind of pre-teen sexual awakening stud stuff the stud pig away the innocence of the sexual awakenings of your youth yeah toothpaste advert yeah now if you're eight years old it's like oh yeah my sexual awakening is when i typed in gang bang to porn hub that was when i kind of awakened my sexual thing is when i typed in loads of sex right now please i was thinking because like i was thinking that actually nowadays you can't like when i when we were kids you could get rid of porn and you could you could you had some deniability about it because it would just be like a still photo of a naked woman we could throw it in the bin no but as in you could just minimize the window but now kids are caught and they've got a fucking vr headset and like an automatic fleshlight and they're hogtied they're like you could be like i'm on amazon yeah like what are you doing i'm watching the i'm watching the highlights of the football i'm watching match the day now match today does start here by the way i think match today starts match the day's wilson i think maybe it's wilson 64 yeah so match today's wilson excuse me um that was the week there was yeah that's the satire show right but the first carry-on film is released in 1958 i don't really know anything about the carry-on films they're a bit of fun they're referenced all the time it's kind of my it's what my dad is it the same as a Ealing comedy no no no very different carry on films is like a very it's it's sort of Benny Hill-esque it's like the height of camp comedy farce it's farce but it's it's lewd it basically in every film Barbara Windsor gets chased and as she's gets chased a bit of clothing comes off and they get snagged on like a twig sexy farces it's the ultimate like end of the pier sex farce it's all gay jokes do they do they hold up being gay is illegal and yet everyone's going to laugh at how gay Kenneth Williams is.
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15:03I either have chips or I have curry noodle. The fittest woman, and now this is, I would argue this is where fit women begin. Yeah, I mean, 60s, come on. Ursula Andrus. Yeah. The first Bond girl. Smoke shows to end all smoke shows. Look at, in the bikini, out on the beach. This is where the first Bond film comes out. 62, Doctor No. Now We're Cooking. Connery's around. Yes. You know, this feels like Britain to me. Yeah. It's starting to make sense a bit. Curry noodle. Yeah. Ursula Andrus. Yes, please. Yeah. You know. Slang for boobs in this era. Norks. Norks look at Ursula's Norks Norks is a very funny can we get the etymology of Norks please yeah where is it is it a Saxon word Norman Nork the slang term it's Australian in origin etymology is unknown but one theory suggests it comes from Norco Corruptive Ltd a butter manufacturer whose packaging feature the cow's udder right right so it's a brand of butter so Norks comes from butter so look at those buttery Norks I guess So we've gone from, was it under Eden, it was chandeliers.
16:11And now it's norks. You can see the degradation starting to happen. You can see the end of deference, can't you? When a woman's boobs were shiny. Oh, I can barely look at those wonderful chandeliers. Now show us your norks, love. We used to be gazing up at chandeliers and now we're looking down at norks. Buttery old norks. Spread those norks on toast. My God. This is also the beginning. This is the beginning of sniggering. It is, of smirking. I don't think sniggering existed before this. This is like the beginning that, you know, people realised they could snigger at things. Yes. You didn't used to snigger.
16:45Yeah. And now Private Eye, the kind of - Have I got news for you? One of the tent poles of sniggering. Yes, exactly. The satire boom is now - New sounds are filling London. Exactly. Is it a dolphin in a bathtub? The Daily Mail. You've just never even heard these. Yeah, the sound of the 60s is Paul Merton going - Now, Macmillan becomes PM in 1957. Eden has just stepped down because he's completely fucked. He's fucked it. His bottoms fall off. And he's off to have sex with Ian Fleming's wife in Jamaica. When Macmillan becomes Prime Minister, he tells the Queen, oh, I might not last six weeks following Suez.
17:26She reminds him of this six years later. It was a funny, wry joke because that's what this is all about. The comedy of the time is very wry. Right. It's cuck's humour. Yeah. Macmillan had a sizable majority and so he wasn't going to call an election unless he felt he had to so before we get into his premiership who was Harold the store let's go back and and talk about this cuck yeah from a cuck from birth yeah um so went to Eton expelled for being a homo um which you have to be really gay to get expelled from Eton yeah because there's a whole there's a whole like culture of like fagging and stuff fagging yeah yeah so explain what fagging is I think we'll probably explain that with the next prime minister because that's literally all he is.
18:07A fag. Yeah. Right. But he gets expelled from homosexuality. He goes to Oxford but doesn't graduate because of World War I. He marries Lady Dorothy Cavendish in 1920. They were a mismatch and by that they mean that he was gay. It reminds me of that. It didn't quite match up. So he was one was gay and one was straight. My favourite all-time Norm Macdonald joke is Lisa Marie Presley and Michael Jackson have split up. Friends say it was never going to work out because she's more of a stay-at-home type and he's more of a homosexual pedophile. They were mismatched, but they still had four children together.
18:41Supposedly the last one is not his, but the conservative politician Robert Boothby. From this point in 29, they lived separate lives because divorce would affect his political career. And he's so humiliated, but apparently he has a nervous breakdown in 1931. But then he gathers his thoughts, yeah he gets some composure yeah he resolves that he will be this country's first ever cuck prime minister innovator he's like obama in a way yeah hope hope just cuck mcmillan cuck for change yeah so by the 1960s right to fast forward because the affair is pretty juicy boothby who is a not boothby again i mean boothby sounds like a guy who's fucking your wife doesn't he yeah booth booth richard boothby no rob robert boothby so he's this dashing young tory mp and he becomes this sort of flamboyant figure in the london nightlife scene in the 60s yeah and he has a taste for young women and young boys boothby boothby boothby goes both ways it's the 60s but he's in both booths he's booth by he's he's booth by he's drilling a hole in the booth and shoving his dick through it he doesn't matter what's stuck in the end of it doesn't give a fuck Doesn't give a fuck.
19:54As long as there's something at the end of it. He's not fussy. He's not fussy. He's not a fussy eater. No, no, no. Gobble, gobble, gobble. Whatever's put in front of him, he'll gobble. He'll finish his plate. He's grateful. Waste not, want not. It's that wartime spirit. Yeah, exactly. That generation, they just, you know, they turn the lights off, they gobble whatever they're putting in their mouth. We just got on with it, you know. Whatever. Cock or fanny, whatever's on my plate. We're all bisexual. You'd understand if you grew up in the war, you were grateful. full um anyway he likes a drink and uh he starts going out to all these nightclubs right and it brings him into the orbit of the cray twins right uh who because they've started running right nightclubs and also i think it's reggie cray is uh openly homosexual brackets in the right rooms but he's a terrifying homosexual yeah where it makes him harder he's like the most violent man in East London and he's kind of an open homosexual but he's also the fucking hardest geezer.
20:51Yeah, he's the hardest geezer but he's gay. He really is. It kind of makes him, it shows, it basically shows I'm so fucking hard that I can be openly homosexual and get away. I don't fucking take it. I'm not a pofter. But I think they, isn't that the thing about them banging each other? Ronnie was, yeah, you found an article. Yeah, yeah. Gangster twins Ronnie and Reggie Cray had secret gay sex with each other. Yeah, that's kind of like a big thing thrown against them which is a bit odd. Do you think they get awkward after they come? what are they doing they're just so fucking hard I think they punch each other in the face and they go fuck off fuck off I'm not gay fuck off you're gay they both called each other homophobic slurs while they're fucking each other do you reckon they wrestled to see who would be on top I mean yeah I've said this on my other podcast and that's the big appeal of gay sex for me the wrestling bit yeah you like to wrestle part of me is like isn't it interesting being physically as strong as the person you're having sex with who's going to end up on top we don't know oh yeah I guess it is more exciting yeah that to me and it was illegal god it's so exciting yeah it's a bit you can really rough house and it's fine because you're both fucking big fucking burly blokes in the eyes of the law yeah you're the same yeah but you were saying the thing that put you off is the idea of like looking out into the kind of corner of the room yeah no no I don't want to get bummed because I don't want to I don't like the idea of just staring at a wallpaper or something never forgetting that lamp yeah Well you could be looking up looking up at the stars Yeah do you know I bet I'm not adding romance to my Some of us are looking up at the stars Well I'm looking at the fucking gutter Anyway in 64 right Boothby strikes this arrangement up with Ronnie Cray that involves he'd socialised at the Cray clubs in the West End Yeah He would meet young boys supplied by the Cray network and then money would change hands Do you have a young boy supplier?
22:38Sorry? Do you have a young boy supplier? Yes but I'm not going to I'm not going to throw my dealer out into the open. Not Deliver Boy. Yeah, Deliver Boy. It's just a little piggyback. Anyway, so the Sunday Mirror gets hold of this story and is going to publish a piece about a, quote, prominent peer associating with the Craze and Rent Boys. But, and McMillan at this point is out of office and he's still alive. Yeah. But the whole thing threatens to blow up because it would sort of publicly open up the open secret of the McMillan. a cuck and has had his daughters fathered by is that confirmed in in political circles yeah it's understood but so his daughter isn't his one of his daughters isn't is supposedly boothby's and his daughter thinks her dad's boothby's christ um so boothby hires a liable lawyer blah blah blah and the entire establishment labor and conservative closes ranks yeah and stops the story coming out because it would expose like how gay the whole thing the whole thing's gay yeah the whole thing And homosexuality in 66 is still illegal, I think.
23:42Anyway, let's get to his war record. Now, he volunteered at the start of World War I. He severely wounded in the Somme, so much so that he spent 12 hours in a shell hole playing dead to avoid the Germans. And I don't understand this bit. While he's playing dead, he reads Aeschylus in the original Greek to pass the time. But is that like, is he like this? Well, he must be like, oh, I'm quite bored. I mean. I guess it's pre-TikTok. when you know the stimulation you could read a book in greek and that'd be enough dopamine but it's funny because now if you're playing dead you'd be like it's funny yeah but it's funny that a german would walk past and think oh that's annoying that guy got killed just as he was reading aeschylus it's weird anyway he's left with a limp uh from this hip injury and a weak grip on his right hand from a gunshot wound which means his wife i think as well yeah it means his hand rising shit and he's got a weak handshake so he's just kind of like how much of the cucks is nature nurture the war you know yeah because it felt like a lot of these british politicians the war didn't make them more macho no it slapped a lot of the masculinity out of them well it made it made churchill more hard drinking yeah and give a shit yeah but everyone else yeah anyway uh after the war well he's very proud of his military service even though he spent it all hiding in a hole.
25:03Reading Greek. And reading Greek. And he expresses disdain for politicians like Harold Wilson who had not seen combat because Wilson will get to but Wilson basically is a civil servant during the war. He then becomes a partner at Macmillan Publishers. Which is his family publishers. I don't think he's involved in the council one. Oh no, I don't think so. No. Maybe. It's not Macmillan cuck care. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. He's a housing minister under Churchill which is Churchill's great domestic success is the housing. Yeah. So he's a very skilled minister. Which Churchill would never have any idea about.
25:31He doesn't know. he has no idea how's it what foreign secretary under Eden which we should talk about because he is the one who's persuading Eden that if he doesn't withdraw from Suez like we've already lost 100 million pounds worth of sterling reserves yeah when in fact the figure was actually 30 and so but he's trying to persuade Eden to pull out straight away but Macmillan was wrong on both fronts because he persuaded Eden to go yeah he's such a snake and he told Eden to leave when it was too early to leave on both counts exactly but he's argue could have been seen to be playing for the position and then he does right so sacrificing him yeah well that's what i mean i think mcmillan is a really machiavellian figure and it's all a lot of like he has a real drive for power that seems to come across and he fucks people over a lot so basically when uh butler who there's even a book written on butler saying the best prime minister we never had right you know and he was the most qualified and expects us to take the role, right?
26:30And the way that the Tories choose their leaders, they're the 1922 committee, right? Yeah. As opposed to having a party vote, right? Yeah. They have a group of people deciding. And all the press are saying, Butler's going to be the next PM. Butler is talking with his wife about what suit he's going to wear when he announces it. He goes to the 1922 committee, and I think he brings Macmillan with him, and it's the big mistake. And he just does like quite a dry speech, saying I'll do this, this, and this. And Macmillan says, oh well actually i've got some ideas and there's this huge flowery speech hitting all the right notes like gives it everything a shakespearean performance basically and then a couple of days pass and they they choose mcmillan yeah butler screams treachery and uh he gets fucked but then in retrospect i think mcmillan thinks butler would have been a better pm or something well he's a cuck isn't he yeah i didn't do a good job someone else do it yeah so arguably he came into the easiest you know at the can is a hard position uh there's lots of people uh wilson's second time hard position but maybe this is the easiest premiership to come into well i guess what's well suez has just happened yeah so he has to repair the rift between britain and america which he does and then gets called super mac yeah maybe so he meets frequently with eisenhower following the suez thing eisenhower offers to supply britain with a ballistic missile equipped with nuclear warheads yeah and blah blah blah he eventually settles the matter his whole his whole thing early on is that he's like we got to get into europe because france germany and maybe the low countries are talking about a proto-eu yeah so eec or something that's it and um so he's always trying to get in because he's basically he's thinking that the commonwealth such this is when the commonwealth starts to go a bit shit or rather well there's an idea that the commonwealth could be like a sort of adapted British empire, but didn't really work.
28:20But then apartheid kicks off and he's like, well, I don't think this is us actually. This is a different thing. Or a bit rich for my blood. This is a bit rich actually. Yeah. I'd like to just sit there and watch it though. I wouldn't mind just watching a bit of apartheid. I'd like to sit and watch apartheid. Yeah. Because he's actually, he's a very liberal Tory. Well, they all are at this point. Yeah. They're all kind of one nation. Until Thatcher. Yeah. He very nearly joined Labour. Macmillan. Yeah. Oh, really? So he was on the cast. Well, this is the closest they've actually ever been. Been as parties.
28:47And that's partly what cancelled Labour out during this period. Yeah. It's just like there's nothing to really split them up. So let's get to the 59 election. The Labour Party's split between Gateskill and Bevan. The campaign slogan, life's better with the Conservative. Don't let Labour ruin it. So very dull campaigns during this period. Yeah. No, we're better. Okay. This is where he says most people never had it so good. Right. And this is, it gets thrown back in his face later on when things get bad. but what he's actually saying which is the kind of seed that will take us through to the rest of the end of the series is please stop trade unions asking for more money please because you've actually this is really good and the more money you ask for well you're fucking us they're fucking us yeah but no one ever remembers the second bit anyway which we just quoted word for word which we just quoted word for word please don't take more money because you're fucking us and I don't I've got enough I cucked them for a horse exactly I've got enough things to watch being fucked I don't need the economy as well so his premiership it's mainly defined by the sort of rapid drawing up of the empire bridge because it's been like as we've seen it's been yeah a sort of slow trick picking up now and he's now like right literally an audit of an empire yeah so he commissions a report to assess how we go about decolonizing there's a bunch of insurrections it's all like let's get rid of the commonwealth to get rid of the empire and go into the eec that's the thing however so he puts it all in on the eec because europe is picking up now because europe we strayed away from europe after the war because europe was in complete ruins and tatters and the only person's player was america but now there's a bit more of a boom happening in europe and now it suddenly seems more uh appealing to join europe basically and he would later say that that was the big problem was that we never we didn't join at the start we could have formed it right so then it was never on Britain's terms it was for French and German capital but he puts all his eggs in the EEC basket and then de Gaulle in 62 or 63 vetoes Britain's entry because de Gaulle just fucking hates the Brits and then Macmillan goes home and cries and wanks of it probably wanks but yeah the idea just a prime minister crying what's de Gaulle got to fucking Charlie can you just google what the fuck de Gaulle's problem is yeah because I mean is it Dunkirk The great success of de Gaulle is in the post-war years is underplaying how fucked the French were in World War II.
31:12Right. Because they win the peace unbelievably well. They get a seat at the Security Council. Unbelievable that. Yeah. Unbelievable. They get fucking nuclear weapons. They get all of these things. They start dicing up Germany. It's like, what? You guys had your feet up on a shiz wall. Yeah. Throughout the whole war. You've just been dipping fucking... And that's what his thing is, just tricking everyone to forgetting about how they acted during the war. Oh, okay. so on the matter of he hates us partly because of Suez because Suez was a French and British initiative and we backed out we backed out we cucked it we were like no worried and he then and embarrassed French as well yeah so he feels there's too much American influence so that's one of the reasons why he vetoes Britain's application right Macmillan says he wants to end the burden of empire but for Britain to remain a great power he said he didn't want to oversee the British Empire's liquidation, but rather its transition into some new modern entity.
32:10And so in 1959, Ian McLeod is appointed as colonial secretary, and it's a fucking Oprah Winfrey fire sale. Right. Cyprus, Nigeria, gone. Sierra Leone, Tanganyika, which I think is Tanzania. Right. Jamaica, Trinidad, Uganda. Fucking hell. Kenya, Malawi, Malta, Wayayugi, Zambia. They all go. Gone. Gone in four years. and he does this winds of change speech, which is in, I think that's in South Africa. And he goes up there and he's basically like the winds of change are blowing through this continent. Right. And since the end of the war, we have seen the awakening of national consciousness in peoples who have for centuries lived in dependence upon some other power.
32:5015 years ago, this movement spread through Asia. Today, the same thing is happening in Africa. The wind of change is blowing through this continent and whether we like it or not, the growth of national consciousness is a political fact. We must all accept it as a fact. meanwhile the South Africans are going well we're just going to fucking they're like white people who haven't had all the kind of I don't know emotional growth that Britain's had yes we've been we've been slapped about during the wars and traumatized and we've got a newfound empathy and these guys haven't fuck off they're like Britain in the 1780s yeah what do you mean you said okay grow up are you a fucking child are you a cuck are you a cuck cuck that's what they're shouting when he's doing the speech.
33:32Cuck! And they think, right, this is the end of empire. All the white settlers are like, right, you just fucked it. Yeah. We're not going to be run by a cuck in Britain. No. A cuck, we're going to, we're going to basically make an apartheid state. And Macmillan, for a cuck, he says, I hope you won't mind my saying, frankly, there are some aspects of your policy which make it impossible for us to do this without being false to our own deep convictions. Yeah, I mean, that's the most cucky thing to say. That's a very cuck way of saying he's anti-apartheid. Yeah. But he introduces as a South African goods boycott, 59.
34:00That's pretty good. So they leave for South Africa alone because of all the apartheid stuff. Oh, so the Cuban Missile Crisis happens. Yeah, so his relationship with Eisenhower is pretty good. Yeah. What's his relationship like with Kennedy? I think they're a bit of a mismatch. There you go. Look, Kennedy referred to Macmillan as Uncle Harold and saw him as a father figure. Because there are times when the American president and the British Prime Minister kind of align. Bush and Blair. Bush and Blair. They got on very well. Blair and Clinton. Thatcher and Reagan. They had this kind of like sexual chemistry.
34:26yeah i mean they're like a leading man and woman yeah they're like bond and bongo yeah i mean blair and clinton they're like they're like they're like fuck boys together yeah like if it was now they'd be wearing coz they'd be out exactly they're the fucking they love hanging out i did not have relations with that woman um what relations haven't gone that well uh well trump theresa may is the ultimate that handshake yeah god that that's actually one of the most disgusting things i've ever seen yeah that handshake obama and cameron playing ping pong i felt was a bit forced it was for the cameras that relationship yeah oh that's just this this is horrible this is the the way they hold hands oh christ yeah this is ah that feels like sexual assault yeah the way he's holding her hand it's disgusting but then also it's very funny for like jfk as we've discussed the horniest person ever the guy who has more affairs than anyone yeah and mcmillan is uncle cuck yeah he once witnessed a typist sent to jfk's bedroom on a visit to the pm's home bouncing up and down on kendy's knee while he sang irish sea shanties to her mcmillan's there just watching the bloody hell i guess mcmillan is quite a satisfying portrayal of an english person if you're american yeah it's like oh that's what i think you're all like but this is the ultimate like if suez was a marker of how far we've fallen for then like jfk the young like virile yeah fuck boy president to go up against the old English cut.
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37:34So, let's get to the scandals that kind of end Macmillan. Yeah. So, there's the Vassal scandal, which is a gay spy scandal. Right. and all spies are gay at this point yes of course at this point if you're gay you are a spy yeah and if you're a spy you're gay yeah or more it's more like that thing where they say like well not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims yeah yeah not all spies are gay but all gays are spies yeah yeah yeah so in one way so a vassal scandal a gay clerical officer at the moscow embassy is photographed drunk and naked with several men in 1954 and the soviets used this to blackmail him into becoming a spy right homosexuality is illegal at this point he returns to london in 56 and carries on spying passing thousands of classified documents to the kgb aiding the soviet navy you know he lives far beyond his means which is i guess is the kind of the ultimate the greek tragedy of a gay spy right is that he will eventually out himself because he's got too much of a lavish lifestyle i think the best spies are straight because you live with nothing.
38:39You don't like anything. You have no friends. Yeah, you don't need to go to Soho and get oysters and champagne. Exactly, because you're like, well, that's ridiculous. I'll just drink water. And stare in my room and read a book. But gays are, you know, they're showmen. They're gossipy. There's a lot of hubris for being gay, you know. You think they get their comeuppance? But you know, yeah. It's too loud. It's a loud voices. I've never met worse whisperers than gay men. They're famously terrible with secrets. I don't understand why. It makes no sense that gay people are seen as spies. Gossips. Anyway, this guy Vassal, he owns 36 Savile Row suits despite earning£750 a year.
39:19Right. He tries to claim this as an inheritance. Right. And then on 12th of September 1962, so sort of, what, 9-12, he's arrested by British intelligence, confesses and reveals spying equipment in his flat. What, like binoculars? I guess that's all it is, isn't it, at this point? what a cup a cup with a string and uh the scandal prompts gossip about homosexuality in government a sunday mirror article titled how to catch a homo let's find out how to catch a homo accuses the admiralty of ignoring obvious signs let's find that article because i in 2025 don't know how to catch a homo i mean there's probably a homo in this room with us right now i think i've got some of my suspicions i've got my suspicions but how do we catch him how do we catch him do we lay traps right how to spot a possible homo yeah daily mirror you can and will meet them in london's bond street tokyo's jinza rome's via veneto glasgow's socky hall street right and road to mandalay the street where you live they're everywhere vassal the spy was a homo he lived like one he acted like one yet here in the formal carefully chosen words i I mean, they're not that carefully.
40:31How does pot fucking live like a fucking homo? We are told by Lord Radcliffe and his two assistants, so far as we can see, nothing short of active police detective work would have offered any clue to the fact that he was a practicing homosexual. He's practicing. He's practicing. Do you practice? I don't practice homosexuality, and that's what's let me down. Yeah, you've got to be practicing. Because I'm practicing, because when homosexuality comes, I haven't practiced. I'm always in the nets. I'm doing throwdowns. I'm shallow batting most days. You know those goalkeeper trainings where they kick the ball at that net and it flies off?
41:04That's me. So what's a bowling machine just flying dildos at you? The Russians indeed had caught him through his homosexual proclivity. I was saying this to you at some point. I can't remember when. The word proclivity is only ever used when you're talking about someone who's gay. I don't mind whatever proclivity is. I'm not spending any more time on it. Live there. Blossom blooms. This is the opposite though. Yeah. This is the obvious. I'm spending a lot of time on it. Because it's disgusting. Oh, here we go. Basically, homos fall into two groups. The obvious and the concealed. Obvious. Those who dye their hair, touch up their lips, and walk with a gay little wiggle.
41:50You can't walk with a gay little. The little is taking the piss. Gay little wiggle could be spotted by a one-eyed jack on a foggy day in Blackwall Tunnel. Right. can we just right what's a one-eyed jack and it's a foggy day in black wall tunnel is that a euphemism or are they trying to say is that a saying I don't know I guess it means you could literally from like a mile off you could have one eye you could be in a dark tunnel and you could spot this gay guy just by hearing his high heels clipping along and him going ooh I'm gay bear in mind it's illegal to be gay at this point and that there are men going hello eee because i think one i jack i mean you can genuinely to be fair stickness aside you can split all gabriel into obvious and concealed well you had to well it's in print media i believe yeah but if you had to split them up that way yeah it wouldn't be that hard scofield concealed concealed yeah yeah i mean there's some things yeah yeah uh ricky martin obvious what do you think uh living la vida loca i thought I thought Andrew Scott, obvious.
42:59Alan Cumming, obvious. His name's Cumming. obvious. Elton John, obvious. Ian McKellen, as Gandalf concealed. Concealed. Alan Cumming hosting the traitors. Get that up? Oh yeah, that's about as gay as it gets. That's about as obvious as it gets. Alan Cumming, but he's not fully gay. Apparently he's got a wife, he's bisexual. They've all got wives. Right. Images. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I scroll down. I mean. Yeah, yeah. Beret and eyeliner. you can one-eyed jack one-eyed jack sporting him in a foggy day then also throwing a one-eyed jack up a foggy day in blackwall tunnel i mean it sounds like sex yeah like marital sex read about the concealed and yeah go back to the article so that's obvious and then we have the concealed they wear silk suits and sit up at chi chi bars with full bosom ladies or they wear hairy sports jackets and give their wives a black eye when they get back from the working men's club right This is unbelievable.
43:54They are everywhere and they can be anybody. How then are we ever going to pick them out? The author goes on to suggest that having spoken to a psychiatrist, there are five categories of hidden homosexuals. I mean, that's amazing. The hidden homosexual, they can do straight, respectable things, like give their wife a black eye after being at the working men's club. Yes, because they're trying to conceal it. So these are the hidden homosexuals. It's gay, not to sponge your wife in the face. You're a woofter. Well, why has your wife only got one black eye? Right, these are the categories of hidden homosexuals.
44:29That's crazy. One, the middle-aged man, unmarried, who has an unnaturally strong affection for his mother. Two, the man who has a consuming interest in youth. Right. He is ready to give all his spare time to working and talking with boys and youth. Teachers. Yeah, I mean, that's paedophiles, isn't it? Yeah. But I guess that's, at this point, I guess the point is LGBT, isn't it? paedophiles are included in the acronym no at this point it's it's h they're all sorry there's not there's no other terms no i know it's just if you're not having sex with a woman you're a homo it's the homo community the homo community they don't even know lesbians exist at this point well yeah and i'm still on the fence to be honest but the homo community includes paedophiles is my point number three the crawler right the the humble man the man who is always saying he's nothing and everybody else is marvelous the man with a fixed and meaningless smile on his face a prime suspect what's that what's the crawler i don't understand the crawler who's a crawler is that someone who's being humble just basically like blends into the background and is not what's someone saying i'm nothing you're marvelous are you gay is it or is it asexual no definitely not that number four the fussy dressed when one two or three button jackets are in he is the first to wear them his shirts are detergent bright his tie has the latest knot and he's always just so and he can never pass a mirror or a shop window without a sly glance right he's always wearing the latest fashions that is gay that is gay to be fair they've got you there um right so the vassal The Vassal Scandal.
46:08Unbelievable. I mean, this is insane. But this undermines the Super Mac reputation for competence. And he sort of starts to turn the press against him. Yeah. So how did he get the nickname Super Mac? So he's called Super Mac because a cartoonist drew him as Superman. Right. When he dealt with Eisenhower. Right, right. Super Mac. So it's just because he cleared up Suez, basically. Yeah, I guess so. And we need some like, right. He went on to get the nickname The Walrus. Yeah, because he looks like a walrus. He doesn't look like a walrus. Yeah. But walrus is, I feel like there's a lot of, there's a cuck energy to the walrus.
46:35Do you think? Yeah. The fat man with his nose, turning his nose up at his wife like this. Yeah, I guess the face is rather hoity-toity, but the fucking giant fat ass. Oh, that's very unseemly. Watching your wife get railed by, oh my God, that's very unseemly. Christ. Just throwing fish at him. Oh, that's terrible, disgusting. So then we get to the first proper sex scandal in politics ever. I guess so, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is why this, you know, after this, you get the satire boom and the age of deference ends because he loses moral authority. Yeah, they're all just fucking and sucking. It turns out they're all gay, they're all cucks, their wives are all fucking each other.
47:21They're all crawlers. Yeah, they're all hidden, obvious crawlers. So the Profumo affair. I mean, it's already quite a gay name. A very gay name. John Profumo is the Secretary of State for War and he meets 19-year-old Christine Keeler at a pool party in Buckinghamshire in 1961. Christine Keeler is having intimate relations with both John Profumo and Soviet delegate Eugene Ivanov. Has she been trafficked? She has been maybe trafficked by the Soviets. A 19-year-old having sex with two different politicians. She's not just gone there on her own volition, is she? Well, Stephen Ward is the guy who introduces them and he then gets done for pimping.
48:01Right. but I bet Stephen Ward wasn't our idea of a pimp no I don't think he didn't have a fur coat hey hey hey it's Stephen Wardy baby yeah he didn't have like a feather in his cap Wardy look after you baby hey got me a sugar tits yeah so anyway now Keela claims her relationships with Ivanov and Profumo overlapped but this was dismissed as unlikely now there's something to do with I couldn't quite remember it but basically MI5 were keeping tabs on Ivanov because they were trying to flip him. Oh, right. Yeah. To make a spy. Yeah. And then they were going to, when the affair started to become public, they were like, we can't be, it's going to blow, it's going to blow this whole thing wide open.
48:45Well, they're going to use it as blackmail probably. I don't really know. It's all a bit, it's all stinks a bit. But anyway, Profumo lies to parliament in 63, denying any impropriety with Keeler. But the tabloids disproved this, I guess by what? showing photos of him having a bit of the devil. Is he married? Oh, I'm sure he's married. What's the true scandal here then? Is it the age of the girl? Is it the fact that - Well, he lies in parliament. Right. It's the cover up. It's always the cover up, isn't it? Yeah. It's why if you're just like an open pedophile - Yeah. And it happens at this country manor in fucking Harrow, right?
49:20Buckinghamshire, yeah. Like Anthony Weiner was an interesting one. Did you watch the Weiner documentary? No. Do you know about Anthony? I know about Anthony. with the dick pic. Yeah, and so he's called Wiener and he sent lots of dick pics. But his position is that the only reason it became news is because he's called Wiener. Yeah, but he also, he came out and was quite open about it and he managed to ride the dick pic out, but then he couldn't stop sending dick pics. Oh, he kept sending them after? He can't stop. So during riding that whole thing out, he basically got out of the woods, he just sent them again.
49:51And the danger is though, if you ride them out, you then haven't had your punishment and you think you can just send them. He absolutely loves sending dick pics. Do you guys send dick pics? I don't send dick pics. Absolutely not. I'm married. No one's sending dick pics to their wife. It's the last thing they want. Why are you sending me that? Come on. I don't want to even see it in the flesh. We do it with the lights off. We've been married for seven years. No man is sending a dick pics to his wife. And if he is, then it's how to spot a homo. Category five. He's a crawler. He's a crawler. Hidden homos are sending dick pics to their wife.
50:27That's gay as shit. Yeah. Sending dick pics to your own wife. You make an eye contact with your wife's pretty fucking - That's gay. Pretty hidden homo. That's number six. I think we should extend this list. How to spot homo nowadays. How many bins you have. Right. I think if you've got more than five bins, you're gay. Recycling. Yeah. Like, if you're separating recycling, the straightest thing is that you have one bin. Yeah. Everything in one bin. When you finish with, like, a Nutella jar, scraping it out - It goes in the bin. No, it should be, you fuck it in the bin and say, fuck off. Yeah. not in recycling in the main bin you get the everything's in the main bin half empty nutella jar and you go fuck off smash it in there that's straight no but in the in the black bin outside yeah because using a small bin in the kitchen is gay what so everything you use the big bin yeah and you throw it from your bedroom window so you stand up and say fuck off and you chuck it in the big you don't scratch your plates you chuck the whole plate in there actually do you know what you don't have a bin you have a skip any more than anything less than the skip so basically if your wife's not doing housework and you have to do it it everything goes in the skip yeah that's sort of my dad's like my dad uh he throws he throws passports away he genuinely he's like because he just he doesn't like any mess so he'll just scrape it all into the bin i don't mind mess but i hate cleaning up so i'm like route one sam allandise in everything in the skip yeah everything everything under the carpet yeah scrape everything under the car whatever it is yeah even if it's like a even if it's like a half full tub of hummus in the skip fuck it done i'm bored i'm bored of having to scrape the jar yeah i'm not washing anything i'm not a fucking crawler i'm not a crawler i'm a straight man homos clean their recycling it's gay what else is gay nowadays um well what isn't wearing a helmet on a bike maybe yeah i do do that that's pretty gay i guess that's gay maybe i'm gay i've got children i can't i can't have my head caved in yeah still gay though it's quite good you're right having children was gay i suppose also you're um i think one of the gayest things about you is you're you're quite uh you're quite committed father as well yes i am you're like you you you are often trying to work out with your wife like how to divvy up childcare yeah which is quite homosexual yeah it is because a real man wouldn't speak to his kids until they're 18.
52:42Well, a real man would have put his kids in the skip. Right. Whenever they're crying, get in the skip. First dirty nappy, that old baby goes in the bin. Right. I can't be arsed dealing with that. Do a granddad change a nappy? No, he put the entire baby in the skip. As soon as the baby did a poo. Right, this one's broken. Right, no, it's pooing in the skip. Sorry. When are you going to have a baby that doesn't poo, please? I will not carry on this line until you can be legitimate heir, which is one that doesn't poo like a girl one yeah yeah girls don't poo this girl one's broken it's pooing this girl one's a bloke yeah anyway Stephen Ward shoots himself on the final day of his trial which I do think makes you look guilty yeah we can go one of two ways it can be like oh he went too hard on him I don't think it's that or it's like there's more I think it's the same where if you ever like kill someone like when they kill Bin Laden they then take his hard drive which makes everyone think oh was he a pedo do you know what i mean if you get if you get shot if you get assassinated and then they're like and we also took his hard drive it's like but don't you also feel like sometimes when people kill themselves it makes people feel sorry for them right so like if there's lots of public pressure yeah that's why when you know you're gonna be broken up with or anything like this you'd threaten suicide because part of you would be like that'll show them yeah you know i think you have fantasies of like whenever somebody's wronged you you're like if i killed myself you'd feel awful but i think threatening suicide is gay i think the straight thing to do is to just do it no threat bud dwyer you seen bud dwyer this is a straight man this is the straightest man who's ever lived bud dwyer is an american congressman in maybe the 70s or the 80s he just i think he's about to be done for maybe embezzlement or something right he calls a press conference and just shoots himself on tv really yeah you can see it on youtube he gets it he puts a massive revolver out of a paper bag and just fuck it.
54:34That mouth? Yeah, mouth. Yeah. Bloody hell. Yeah, that's straight as hell. That's the straightest thing to do. Call a press conference and just do it. That's the best post-match at her conference. Yeah. Anyway, so the Profumo affair basically contributes to the fall of this government because public trust goes. And this is now kind of like seedy Tories. Yeah, it's partigate of its time, basically. But now, that's how prime ministers leave office. That's like de rigueur. Yeah, of course. it's horses for courses public trust this is the first time that the chippy populace yeah start going you know what they don't fuck they're hypocrites and it's arguably sort of the beginning of the 60s right yeah it's all butt stuff yeah he gets undone by butt stuff so the Profumo affair Steve Moore kills himself does Profumo go to jail no does he get oh does he get some Keeler gets done Keeler goes to jail but I think Profumo gets almost protected and he claims it was entrapment and then maybe he gets off.
55:34Right. So Profumo, this happens from kind of come around Profumo, which is probably what contributes to the air of like a cover-up. But sorry, it's interesting that like there's another premiership that ends in crisis, but it's also to simultaneously, they're so ill that they have to go anyway. Yeah. So how Macmillan resigns is, you know, problems with this prostate, which is the cuck's burden. Yeah. Is that you're never coming. You know how you're meant like apparently coming a lot is because of your prostate. right like so his is enlarged because it's furious it's furiously angry because he's never come so he's just got the biggest prostate knowns ever had it's like this fucking watermelon um i mean i have struggled with like enlarged prostate sometimes right yeah well if i go too too hard at a spin class and i piss blood ones really yeah but you're you're coming regularly are you regular regular i'm fairly regular movements yeah fibrous diet fairly fibrous diet my god my wife's fibrous fruit and fiber that's that's me and uh morning morning movement does that mean a lot of monks have prostate cancer in the same way that cabbies have a lower instance of alzheimer's because uh the knowledge because the knowledge and like apparently dementia is the same muscle that uh you use for navigation so not using google maps is good if you want to avoid dementia so there's a lower instance of dementia amongst cabbies i imagine there's a higher incidence of prostate cancer amongst monks right yeah because there's never jack in it the monk's burden although maybe if you open the seal maybe if you never wank you're fine it gets all like dusty and but if you open it and then you don't keep moving stuff through if you never wank it's like a time capsule in a way it just opens 100 years later and you find a gollywog in there or something
57:20anyway mcmillan the cuck has a big prostate yeah uh he's also urged to resign post profumo but he goes to tory party conference and he's he's still meant he's meant to turn up and then he doesn't he sends a doctor's note to his deputy who's douglas hume and he says um i got i got my prostate's fucking massive because i've i've not had sex my wife for 30 years yeah and so he sort of just kind of fades into the background like fades into the hedge homer simpson yeah and then the party conference becomes a leadership bid like live in front of everyone really 63 yeah they're like suddenly they're like okay well now that we've got to decide who's next right he basically resigns at the conference and he went on to be the longest living prime minister and when did he die 92 oh he died 92 86 yeah yeah uh he pulled the string we need to talk about the satire stuff right oh yeah we do so yeah this is kind of like the ultimate cuckdom but this is kind of the lineage that i guess calling the prime minister a cuck yeah and the kind of beginning of modern british comedy to kind of move away from music hall and the kind of vaudeville towards alternative comedy uh topical stuff fucking peter cook dudley moore goons the goon show yeah which is kind of a precursor to Monty Python all of the kind of things that we would know as British comedy sort of start in this period.
58:45Modern British comedy starts basically here. And supposedly Macmillan goes to this show that's been Oh I fancy a laugh. Yeah. I like a laugh Yeah. You should see what my wife's been doing You know he goes to Beyond the Fringe in the West End, Beyond the Fringe is Peter Cook Dudley Moore and then they see him in the audience and they just start mocking him. But this is the first time that people are like having a go at the prime minister and like slagging him off to his face. Yeah, and I guess, and this is during, while he's prime minister. It's 1961, so he's the prime minister. So this is literally the end of deference.
59:15Yeah, this is the end of deference. And it's maybe the first crowd work clip type thing. Yeah. Audience member gets destroyed. Prime minister's destroyed. Prime minister's destroyed by But it's also like Fringed, like, group. But it's also the idea that it's vicious satire. It's probably going, you're a walrus. You're like a walrus. But, you know, no one had ever said anything like that, so it was fucking to the prime minister yeah and that would be a great clip that would be an amazing clip if they had reels back then that would be fucking amazing prime minister in the crowd if Starmer got ruined at a fucking comedy store or something yeah it went to the gong show yeah so that was the year Ian Heslop was born as well is it wow there you go have I got news for you the seeds of the satire boom that we're now when have I got news for you actually start 1654 16 it's the restoration isn't it anyway listen we need to wrap up we need to wrap up Macmillan's prostate caves in it's a hot air balloon it's a hot air balloon at this point he sort of takes our floats into the sky and he fades away like all great cuts winds have changed anyway let's finally wrap up Macmillan's legacy what do we think so obviously it was something period the the land of lost content is what they call it something it was a period of kind of domestic luxury.
1:00:35White goods. White goods. Consumer boom. Black Friday. Everything's kind of on the up. It's reaching to the 60s into a kind of seemingly quite rare boom period post-war. But this is the straddle between the stuffy 50s and the groovy butt-stuff 60s. He managed to decolonize Africa without getting militarily involved, which I guess... That's a pro. He kind of dismantles empire. It's the peak of pro-war sort of British prosperity. however the kind of sex scandals kind of tar the conservative um moral leadership and he's not remembered as a great prime minister i guess because of the cuckoldry because of the way he left office yeah even though he was relatively competent and actually like a quietly uh quite progressive but he's very comforting for british listeners viewers he's very comforting prime minister yeah the graceful minister should look like the glassy cuck yeah against the upstart virile american president that's that's our image that's who we are yeah that's who i think i am um so i guess yeah i don't know where we'd rank him at the moment definitely definitely high i think probably he's better than eden better than i'd say probably better than churchill he did a better term than churchill probably second to atlee i'd imagine at the moment but again he's not he's not that transformative and it's i suppose the country changes so much but how much of that is like it's him doing that no his force is uh beyond him yeah it's basically because of this new boom and like people having more money there's a cultural explosion yeah because there's you can now go out and see things you know the teenage teenagers as a concept is growing teens teens is now a hot teens hot young teens in your area wild starts yeah so phone boxes are now starting to be used as kind of porn booths yeah anyway mcmillan fades away because his because his his his knob caves in yeah and next episode maybe our most challenging episode yet certainly our most uh long awaited yeah it's the last of the old boys the trust before trust yeah a 364 day premiership which includes as perhaps his only highlight a failed kidnapping so probably the least famous prime minister the least talked about one no one no one will probably know about this guy but we're gonna do a whole fucking episode on him somehow we're gonna scrape the barrel with this one this is the ultimate scraping barrel if you'd already already like that episode now if you can't wait to see our barrel scraping yeah join the patreon where for three pounds a month to get early access to series ad free bonus episodes and you are comforted by the knowledge that you are surrounded by like smelling people as we talk about the man the myth the legend alec douglas hume join us next time for that and thank you for watching this has been Howard McMillan we'll see you next time as our rampage through post-war British PMs continues the trolley dash goodbye
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As a sign of how quickly things fall post-Suez, Britain elects its first openly cuck Prime Minister. How ironic, then, that a man who wasn’t getting any gets ousted by a sex scandal.
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Chapters;
00:00 Double Up, Ladies
04:29 You've Never Had It So Good
12:17 Buttery Norks: The End of Deference
15:33 Cuck from Birth
21:29 Snakey Supermac
26:40 Audit of an Empire
31:52 JFK and Harold
34:00 How To Catch a Homo
43:20 Profumo Affair
51:05 Undone by Butt Stuff
56:29 Winds of Change
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