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Podcast Episode Summary: Financial Audit - "$1,000 In Minimum Monthly Payments Are Ruining Her Life"
Episode Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, host Caleb Hammer dives deep into the financial struggles of a 28-year-old named Madison from Austin, Texas. Madison shares her financial situation, including her income, expenses, debts, and aspirations, leading to a detailed discussion about financial management, budgeting, and the psychological aspects of spending.
Key Points Discussed
- Introduction to Madison:
- 28 years old, working with Accenture, making $22/hour.
- Monthly income ranges from $3,500 to $3,800 before taxes.
- Financial Situation:
- Madison reveals a troubling financial state, with most of her paycheck allocated to bills.
- Self-rated financial health: 4 out of 10, indicating significant room for improvement.
- Spending Habits:
- Engages in frequent overdrafting due to impulsive spending habits.
- Justifies unnecessary expenditures like eating out, subscriptions, and entertainment despite being in debt.
- Debt Analysis:
- Over $1,000 in minimum monthly payments, including:
- Personal loans
- Credit card debts
- Car payments
- Discussion of a "disgusting personal loan" and significant credit card debt.
- Emotional Spending:
- Experiences anxiety around finances, leading to compulsive spending.
- Attempts to balance a desire for a YouTube career while managing financial instability.
- Plan for Improvement:
- Emphasis on budgeting and prioritizing debt repayment.
- Caleb suggests a detailed strategy:
- Allocate extra income from side hustles (like Rover) toward debt repayment.
- Maintain a strict budget to avoid unnecessary spending.
- Support System:
- Madison encouraged to communicate with her boyfriend about finances for accountability.
- Hammer Financial Score:
- The episode concludes with Caleb giving Madison a low financial score of 1 out of 10 due to her lack of retirement savings and persistent debt issues but expresses hope for future improvement.
Key Takeaways
- Budgeting is Crucial: Madison must create a detailed budget that prioritizes debt repayment and limits discretionary spending.
- Accountability: Having support from her boyfriend and establishing regular financial check-ins could foster better financial habits.
- Understand Impulse Spending: Addressing the emotional reasons behind spending can help Madison make more rational financial decisions.
- Debt Reduction Strategy: Focus on high-interest debts first and use any extra income strategically to chip away at total liabilities.
Conclusion Madison’s story highlights the challenges many face with financial management, especially when emotional and psychological factors come into play. The episode serves as a reminder of the importance of budgeting, discipline, and seeking help from others when navigating financial difficulties. Caleb's direct approach aims to shed light on the seriousness of Madison's situation, while also providing a path forward for financial recovery.
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Transcript
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1:03I'm based out of Austin, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. Dude, I never know how old people are because I thought, like, you have young skin. Oh, yeah. It's very good. Then we've also had people that say they're young, but they look older, so I'm very confused all the time. You're like, where are these people? I don't even know how old I look, but we're actually the same age. I didn't know that. I thought you were younger until you said that in a video. there was one video i don't remember which one it was is that because i have beautiful skills yeah so awesome what do you do 28 years old for a living in austin texas so right now um i am working for accenture and it's accenture flex and we do work with meta so okay that's what we're doing at the moment well what's your position um so i am it's kind of hard to describe sometimes because they have very specific ways that you're supposed to talk about it um so what would you call it to everyone else so that they knew what no there's like a thing that you like have to say but it's like kind of hard so i'll just say um like a reviewer of content i'll say that okay it's like very oh to see if things are bad yeah so i look at like some honestly it's I'm good.
2:22I'm good. Not anything terrible. Like no like murder, but like definitely some funny stuff that maybe somebody might be offended by. And maybe it shouldn't be on the platform. So not terrible. No, that's not bad. What do you, what do you make right now? Currently it's at$22 an hour. How many hours a week do you work? 40. Guaranteed? Yeah, we have to. Ever higher, any lower? No. Okay. So whenever you make that, like, with the days, sometimes it's 20 days, sometimes it's 22, sometimes it's 23. So it's$3 ,500 to$3 ,800 depending on how many days. Per paycheck? Of the month. Because we get paid on.
3:02So let's say that number one more time. $3 ,500 to$3 ,800? Yeah, it's$3 ,500 to$3 ,800 before taxes. And then once taxes come out, it's, like,$3 ,000 to, like,$3 ,200,$3 ,300. Somewhere around there. call it like 31 then sounds a little more conservative side in terms of that upper number but okay if you're living in Austin and that because like with the rent and everything with where things are like it could easily be 50 % of your income so like how are you feeling living here yeah so I actually don't mind the pay I think it's okay especially since I do other things on the side however with the way that I have set myself up financially it's not good at all I use my entire paycheck for bills so everything's going out immediately yeah pretty much so like and I have this like kind of anxiety so every time I get paid I just want to like pay every single thing that I possibly can so that I don't like worry about it I don't like I'm still necessarily bad I know I'm still a little uncomfortable like seeing money like in my account because I used to have like a pretty bad problem with like spending it i'm getting better but i'm still working on it well that is definitely not good then i guess in that case i'll ask the question you know from your own perspective how do you see your financial situation in general um i mean if if i could scale it like one to ten with no other like um lindic no positive attitude or anything because i feel like i have a pretty positive just realistic um i'd say it's like a four out of ten like it's it's not amazing but it's not all the way at the bottom i can still climb the last time someone gave themselves a score ended up being like three points lower so okay so i'm at a one maybe okay i'm just kidding well we'll see i mean i don't know i mean all i know is that in your checking account$22 yeah that's usually what happens yeah and we started with$19 it's it's not good do you have automatic payments for some stuff but not that's where it gets risky though I know I try really hard to make sure but you can actually see on one of these pages I never go over but there's two times that I actually did go over it's it's red on here I think it's on this one.
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7:13Did you fix it in 24 hours? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I have. It's still so risky. I know. And what confuses me? Okay, so we have a dollar in savings. Yeah. Like, okay. Oh, that's just because I actually don't use that savings account. I use a different one. But what confuses me here, if we know our financial situation is bad, if we're trying to get out of whatever, we haven't even looked into the debts, but I know there's a lot of documents to go through. If you're overdrafting, why do we have subscriptions to Dropbox and other Apple subscriptions? Why are we going to McDonald's and Mocha Nut thing and Cracker Barrel and, you know, let's see.
7:53The Hideout Pub, Popeyes, Baskin, Chipotle, and other Apple subscriptions for iCloud. And getting pizza and Schlotzky's and ice cream. DoorDash. and why are we I don't door dash that's me door dashing I swear it's a plus like I do door dash I don't believe in door dash even though I do it I don't believe in it because it's so expensive it's way too expensive can you explain the rest of these so some of them I do feel like it's okay to buy every once in a while some of them were actually for the YouTube channel But is it okay to buy every once in a while when you're overdrafting? Yes, you fix it within 24 hours.
8:39Good, but you did it. You have no money. Yeah. How can we possibly say, I can afford this? True. You really can't. Especially because we do see in here at the same time, again, another Apple subscription. Oh, yeah, that's for the YouTube channel, too. We have two car payments. I promise it's just one. We have a care credit. No, I know, but there's two payments on here. and we have a care credit thing. No, three payments on here for the car. Yeah. So if we're doing all this, and some of these weren't even for your YouTube channel marked as YouTube. Only three of the food things that I ran out were marked for the channel.
9:18So the other ones, which is bullsh**, which you can't afford. True. So why are we doing that? I mean, you tried to justify saying you think it's okay. Do you think it's okay? Even though you overdrafted. I do think it's okay, but I usually don't overdraft. That's the thing. I don't care if you usually don't. You did. I did all my math for everything and I thought I had it right but I think I just accidentally wrote it incorrectly because I never overdraft and I don't know why I did. I did the whole math and everything. And if you are making three car payments, obviously there's debts that we'll have to go into and there's a care credit thing.
9:54If you're doing that, then how can you justify going out to eat and all these things? instead of putting that money towards the debt i get it i definitely do i put more money towards my debt like every month i mean it's just not like since i do have like the youtube channel and if somebody like i don't always make a video like every time that somebody comes out with a new thing like let's say that like chipotle they just came out with like their new meat okay so you have a youtube channel you review some foods yeah so i try not to do every link in the description thanks i try not to do every single one because i understand that it's not something that is okay but i try to do it every once in a while i try not to do too many looks like a couple times a week yeah so this also isn't healthy yeah and so that's why we've seen someone that did this exact content die recently oh yeah that one guy i think i saw that on tiktok maybe is that is that who you might be talking about he died because and then you know you're here we got these chicken tenders and i mean of course i'm saying this and i know i have way to lose but either way we know it's unhealthy like we're getting r &b steak and fries we're getting donuts and jersey mics everything there's not a one okay here's one healthy thing a chipotle chicken el pastor yeah so you're doing some mukbangs as well so like i mean that's unhealthy in general just overeating so my mukbangs like they're not like overeating kind because i think they're like i don't really like that kind but i would say the review is more like hey this is what i think about like this food and then a mukbang is more like hey here's me talking about like my life um but i do agree with you that like the there is a line with like the health yeah so i just recently started doing it less and then more like cooking at home however since I just started a new um way to make money I haven't really had time to film it rover oh okay yeah I make a good amount of money with that so far and I'm really happy with myself and like how I'm like working towards it and I actually wanted some like advice about how to allocate the funds for that because I'm wondering if I should do like a percentage per month of that toward like my debt or should I just save it all?
12:25Since it's like extra income. We'll have to look at the entire situation. Probably debt but we'll have to look at the entire situation. How much you bring in? You have over a thousand subscribers so you're monetized. How much you bring in on a monthly basis from the YouTube? Not yet because I don't have the view yet. Oh you don't have the 4 ,000 hours of public watch time within a year? So I'm still working on it. It's within a year right? Or six months? uh yeah it's 365 days like whenever it's going on i'm arch manning viore athlete and college quarterback whether i'm running training traveling or just unwinding at home i love doing it in my core shorts from viore with a breathable boxer brief liner they're quick to dry super versatile and stand up to even my most intense training sessions plus they come in three inseams and a ton of colors ready to try a pair go to viore.com slash arch and get 20 off at checkout i think you're going to love them as much as I do.
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14:06I'll see if you feel, let's see if you feel that same way after I yelled at you. I'm ready. Cause I have a feeling there's some debts we need to look at. Yeah. So if you'd like to, uh, understand completely about how stressed I am, like underneath, um,$1 ,000 a month goes to debt besides my car. That's a third of your income besides your car. Car is debt. Yeah. Let me open it real quick once. Open what? Car is debt. No, I have it like all like written. Okay. Well, before we do that i wanted to look at one other account you had okay robin hood so 52 so nothing okay so any of the like investment accounts in there is me kind of like it was i don't want to say the word i'm going to say because some other guy said this and it was not good but i was kind of like playing around with it trying to figure out how to use it like i wasn't exactly sure i've been trying to teach myself stuff like ever since 2018 when i saw gram's channel for the first time i've been trying to teach myself different things so i have like an e-trade account that did really well for a little bit um it's kind of like just hanging out right now i try to teach myself robin hood try to teach myself weeble but why are you doing this right now when you have bad debts so i'm not doing anything at the moment i just left everything in there like i completely agree with you it's from like your high yield savings has 77 dollars in it yeah okay that um i was putting stuff into but then i realized i should just do like everything i can to put like as much toward the debt as possible so that's what i'm doing right now and then yoda yoda oh yada have you seen that no uh gram recommended it in like 2020 i believe um well you have 158 in there so we just we're having all these accounts with basically no money in it yeah so i still put stuff in yada it's um i think every 25th i think 21 25 goes in there okay then we have e-trade yeah four hundred dollars this one's more yeah so i invested in something that did pretty well i just can't remember what it's called because i did it like two years ago um but it i think it does like it's done like 30 or 60 like since i did it you're in just a few individual stocks so I just don't do anything with it now.
16:21I just leave it as it is because I feel like the debt is more diversified, but yeah, it was me trying to teach myself. Cause I don't know that much about investing. It's kind of hard. Why do you have so many checking accounts?
16:36Yeah, I honestly, this feels disorganized everywhere. We have, we have like five investing accounts open with almost nothing in it. We have a few savings with barely anything in it. Now we We have like three checking accounts with, let's see. So in this checking account, started with$9. You did end with$188. Normally that's not considered good, but compared to what we've seen so far, okay. This just, it's just going to pay off cards and Klarna. Klarna, great. What'd you get with Klarna? Was Klarna, was that the one that's a reversal or was that a taken out one? Because I know I just had a reversal recently.
17:13They're both taken out. There's two Klarnas that were taken out. what month is that uh statement that i sent you is it from february or january because i know i sent you my statements a mixture of both oh okay so um that's my checking account at a bank right i don't really want to say like which bank it's at okay that's fine is it is it is that what you're looking at is a checking account um so for a long time I wasn't purchasing anything new because I was like I need to take care of the debt and then recently I was like feeling like I was missing out on stuff you know like the whole FOMO thing you know what I mean okay so I made some decisions whenever I got my new job and I bought some stuff and did you buy um the Klarna ones are probably from Steve Madden so I bought some shoes because I never like update my wardrobe or anything.
18:09Like I've always been like, I've always thought that like buying clothes was like a waste of money. And like, like everything that I thought was like a waste of money is like buying sodas, buying clothes, you know, just like wasting money going to different places like all the time. So I tried to not do that. And I think I just tried so much that I kind of went crazy when I got my new job. And then we have Fidelity again and they're 60 bucks. So this is not organized at all. You're just everywhere. Just absolutely everywhere. And then guess what? We have another checking account. Which one? Checking account.
18:45RBFCU. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so that one's actually for Rover. I have that one because I want everything to be separate. Why? It's still your income. I only have it like that because it's like a business thing. So I want to make sure that I like it's set. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the only reason. Well, it's$30. I can't see any of the activity in there, but there's$30. Currently, the checking account for our... RBFCU. RBFCU. It's new to me. So currently, that one has like$158. And then I have like a savings account that everything from Rover goes into.
19:19And it's at like$400 at the moment. So yeah. So all your savings and checkings together probably come out to like$600. Probably, yeah. Across like 90 accounts. Or like$700. So your retirement and investing comes out to only a few hundred as well. Yeah. Across like a billion different accounts. Yeah. Okay. And I definitely want your advice on how to kind of. Yeah. Consolidate. Consolidate. Yeah. I mean business and personal separate. Yeah. And then do pay outs into your personal from there. But keep track of every business expense and everything. So you can make sure you're taking advantage of tax write-offs and everything.
19:55So keeping receipts and everything. Yeah. I'm writing like. software to do that but then just budgeting with the money that comes into your main area budgeting into different categories knowing exactly where your money's going not freaking out different things not overdrafting stuff like that so what is this upgrade uh that's a really sucky personal loan that i have why do you have it so um i did one personal loan in 2020 and it worked really well for me i actually just paid it off why how did it work really well what does that mean um so the i have a capital one credit card that the limit is like 3 500 and i had it all the way up and i got the personal loan paid that credit card and like one other one i paid off the personal loan and i didn't put anything else on that credit card so i was really excited about that however i have other credit cards i'm confused yeah what's up you talk Talk about like until recently, until you got your job and stuff, you didn't care about clothes, you didn't care about pop, you didn't care about this, this, this, this, this.
20:59Why are you in all this credit card debt from the past that you consolidated into a personal loan that worked for you, yet we're still in these debts? Meaning there has been debts going back for a while. Why were you in it in the first place? So I've actually had a YouTube channel since 2016, and I was convinced that I was going to be a beauty guru. so a lot of the debt that i had on that credit card was for makeup and stuff for the youtube channel that didn't go anywhere because i did not like put effort into it like i didn't also you should have collect cash flowed with a job oh yeah for sure so a lot of that debt as well is because so my mom doesn't have any like she's she's good she like has good things for like being frugal but she never taught me about financial stuff so I got a credit card I was like okay cool I was like doing the right thing and everything I started doing bad stuff like partying and stuff like that and I just wasn't taking care of it properly when I finally realized that it was a problem it was pretty deep and then i kept doing that did you find that out i kept doing that thing where you like just for like you're like pushing it out like i kept doing the minimum payment how old were you when you figured that out oh 22 22 so this was a while ago yeah and i'm still like trying to dig myself out because i'm not it's like i make a plan and then i don't stick to it so i'm i'm really trying i can see because this is just built up and i see like I mean that's been too many years yeah I'm really really trying to make my plan and actually do it so that's where I'm at right now is like and that's why I'm doing the rover thing because I'm just really trying to get out of it like yeah you're about to bust your work a billion hours a week yeah hours that don't even exist you're going to be working yeah so thankfully with rover it's been doing very well and I don't have to put too many hours into it to be profitable At the moment, per hour, I did like a whole thing with it.
23:02It is about$33 an hour whenever I do it. So thankfully, it works out pretty well. I'm still trying to balance having a full time and doing that at the same time. My Saturday, I do Rover the entire day. Sunday, I'll do as many as I can. I have a Rover client later that I'm doing. so every single time that I get a request I'm taking it because I really actually want that to be my full time my aunt does it in Houston and um she actually makes six figures because she has a house I don't want to make six figures because I just can't at the moment like it's she has a home so it's possible because um boarding is the best thing that you can do with Rover I can't really board too many dogs because I have an apartment so I can't board too many But what I'm hoping is I have a plan for how much money I can allocate until October to certain credit cards.
23:59And then I'm hoping that I can keep allocating until January. And then in March, I'm hoping that I can move into a different place that has a backyard so I can actually board more dogs. Okay, we'll hear your plan and see if it's good or not. Okay. Now, on your Capital One, zero bucks. So you just don't hold balances on there Or you paid that off through a consolidation? Yes, that is the one that I paid with the personal loan Okay, so you didn't pay it off You just transferred it somewhere else Correct Now we also have Synchrony Classic This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad Ryan Real United Airlines customers We were returning home And one of the flight attendants asked Bronx If he wanted to see the flight deck And meet Captain Andrew I got to sit in the driver's seat I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.
24:54That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. One of my first credit cards maxing out when I was really bad at 20. That one is the, I believe that's the care credit is the synchrony. Because I have a synchrony savings account, and then I have a synchrony, like care credit is synchrony. Oh, this was your high-yield savings, yeah. Okay, cool, cool, cool. And, of course, there was nothing in there. Yeah. Because that was something I just recently...
25:29I pretty much stopped everything when I realized that we should have a conversation. I was like, I'm just going to kind of pause and just talk to you, see what you think. So then we have a Costco card. Yes. And it was not the best decision. That's a lot of debt for a stupid Costco card. Yeah. $3 ,984.93. Jeez, with a minimum monthly payment of$99.92. Actually, I don't even know. No, the upgrade, we didn't even talk about it. It was$4 ,000 and$280 minimum monthly payment. What's the interest on upgrade? Honestly, I really don't know. How do you not know? Well, because to pull it up, it's really hard, and I signed up for it, I think, last year.
26:18I really don't know how to pull up the statement. I was trying to pull up a statement. You didn't know the interest when you got into it? I did, but I just don't know it now. Do you know the range? I can tell you how much I need to pay and what the monthly payment is, and you could do some math if you want. I really, really don't know. I wish I did. I really tried to look at it before I came, but I could not find it. What's the point? You only put$200 towards it, but you're making$62.11 to purchase on your Costco card. This is something I will never understand And it's some stupid beauty place In some Well good RX and then after Pay you're paying with the credit card You're just what's the point we're not making Progress if we're just being stupid Yeah this doesn't make sense And you lost $60 of interest on this essentially Oh wait yeah 60 bucks So why are we spending on this It doesn't make sense with a Nah what's the interest rate.
27:15It's 18. I have all of them right here. No, it's gone up. Or it's like 19. Interest rate has gone up. It's almost 20%. Where are they? I mean, I'm seeing it right here. It's almost 20%. So why are we doing that? Because we're talking ourselves into dumb stuff. Because I really know. Like, I know what you're saying. You found it out at 22. We decided, okay, we're not really going to think about it. And I can understand that there's a mental point there in terms of just, like, waking up to it. But even if you know it, why are you still spending money on it? Especially if you've been watching this channel and if you've been watching Graham Stephanie if you've probably been watching others why come on this was like last month this was last month some of it was yeah why come on give me a reason not just like because we're trying to learn no I mean I definitely take I can't really give you a reason because I just take full responsibility of just doing stupid it's good but if we can't get to a reason then it's how do we overcome doing it in the future that's what I struggle with if we don't know why then how do we prevent?
28:17I guess sometimes I think that I know more. I don't really know where am I crying? Can you cut it real quick? Yeah, that's fine. You okay? Like It's okay. Like I really want to.
28:48The reason I dig in is for a very specific reason. To one, make sure that you fully understand the direness of the situation so that people can put a fire under their butt to do what is necessary to get out of it. And then the reason I push so hard to understand why you're doing something is so we can figure out a path forward to not go into that. I'm very intentional with the way I do it. It's not to beat you up specifically. No, I had to explain to my boyfriend because we were watching an episode and he was like, why is he so mean? And I was like, you just have to tell these people like the truth.
29:29Like because they if you don't if somebody's not telling you the truth, like you're not going to hear it. Yeah, I don't want to enable anyone. I definitely get it. I have a sensitivity to authority sometimes. Not saying that you have authority, but we're having this conversation. Oh, my God. It's okay. I'm sorry, dude. There is nothing to be sorry about. I am also a crier. It happens. It is a part, okay, it's not that I want you to cry, but one thing that is making, one thing that I'm happy to see in a way is that you already know how dire the situation is. Yeah, like for sure. So I do not need to do what I usually do when people just do not understand what's going on.
30:31And I was hoping that. Can you talk into the microphone, please? I was hoping that you were able to understand that because I definitely take responsibility for what's happened. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm still making the decision. I guess it's just in the moment it's like as soon as I decide okay I'm going to use this credit card for this purchase in the moment it's like I don't care. My brain is like you don't care about what your goals are do whatever the f*** you want that is what happens in the moment that is what is happening and then later I'm like okay I need to fix this and then it I do fix it and then it keeps going so it's like I think I feel like I got in the habit of being able to fix it so often whenever I was younger that as I'm getting more debt I'm just not able to fix it as quickly and so in those moments whenever I'm deciding oh I'll just fix it later it's not as plausible as it was before so I'm still trying to not do that but you know I can sympathize with this in a different way absolutely for me this was my struggle at one point this was my struggle but the struggle I deal with now that I brought up is just like eating food that's bad for me and I'll be on a good diet losing some pounds here and there and then like I'm like ooh but I really want some chicken dendies with some ice cream and then I'm just like and I just do it just like you spent on a card that you already have a balance and then later I'm like why did I do this this is stupid but I already did it and it's just the discipline aspect of it something I'm getting I got better at and did with personal finances years and years and years ago and that I'm working on for my own health right now and it's something that we can get you to do for personal finances so that you can get to a better place.
32:51Yeah, I definitely want to be in a better spot. And since I sent you everything, since I figured out I really need to do this and I sent you everything, I haven't put anything else on a card. I put everything written out on here so I can have at least some kind of plan. I feel like the writing it down is really helping because writing down$3 ,000, that is not my own money that I have to give to this sucks like and i didn't even write down the balance of the upgrade one because that one is really stupid i it was a good idea at the time because it was one of those things where my interest rates on my card my cards are really bad yeah but city sucks they do not let you change your interest rate like ever i'm like that that's crazy because my mom has always had cards and she's able to like call and change them she's never had a city card um well no i mean i uh i am also on the page where i mean math wins over emotions but some people are just bad with emotions because we are essentially you know still cavemen you know mashing rocks together for fun you know that's just where we were not too long ago we're the same people we've just learned some more things since then but i am good on the mathematical side of taking a 30 interest credit card consolidating down to like 10 % personal loan.
34:1210 % is not great. Much better than 30%. That's what it was. That was like my idea. Where a lot of people fail on the emotional side though they feel like they made progress all of a sudden. They just don't attack it as hard. That's why I think from the sounds of it that's where someone like Dave Ramsey is against it. I'm still for it as long as we can mathematically justify it and emotionally understand that we still need to continue to attack it. Yeah. So that's my thoughts on the personal loans. But we also have a city card. On the city card it's a double cash back which I love. That's my oldest one.
34:45You're holding a balance on it unfortunately. 70 bucks a payment on a 1 ,500 balance but the balance actually went up after that$70 payment because essentially$32 of interest on it and then purchases of$57 on it. So we're still purchasing on the card. The interest rate is at 27.49 % and the purchases is uh rudy's yeah which a barbecue but not even like the best bar yeah and you know it's expensive so we're doing that on a car that of course we're trying to pay off then prime video as well i finally canceled that i don't even know why i had it i must have like signed up for like oh i should use this instead of some other streaming service and then i never used it i do have amazon prime Prime Video should come with that.
35:36Does it come with it? I think so. So I finally got rid of that. And a KFC tale in the pursuit of flavor. The holidays were tricky for the Colonel. He loved people, but he also loved peace and quiet. So he cooked up KFC's$4.99 chicken pot pie. Warm, flaky, with savory sauce and vegetables. It's a tender, chicken-filled excuse to get some time to yourself and step away from decking the halls. Whatever that means. The Colonel lived so we could chicken. KFC's Chicken Pot Pie The best$4.99 you'll spend this season Prices and participation may vary while supplies last Taxes tips and fees extra Got that situated Oh that was the other thing that I Don't pay for that I forgot to mention When I was talking about sodas I don't have like cable or anything so I was like Oh I'm so great I don't have cable You know so That was another thing that was kind of Adding to the fact of like Oh I don't have cable so I can buy this And I don't have those thoughts anymore but it was kind of like pushing it like you know what I mean it's not a good idea what you're saying yeah so I now I'm like just happy for the things that I don't buy and not using that as an excuse to justify buying something that I don't really need because I also have a really good rate um for my internet with spectrum because they had this really awesome thing going on whenever the pandemic came, I was paying like$25.
37:04Now I just pay 40. Cause it, it's like the next year of the thing that they were doing. I used to work there. I don't even remember what it's called. No, I got you. No, I mean, that's good. A lot of people are age. Oh, we are the same age. A lot of people just within our generation below and above us, you know, cause we're in that weird middle area. Yeah. Uh, yeah. In an internet, absolutely cable. Uh, not as much. Yeah. I I recently got YouTube TV, but... I've had it before. Like, what do you think about it? That's fine. I was like, eh. That's good. It's good for what I use it for. Oh, good. Good.
37:38Do I have, like, mascara, like, right here? Because I tried to make sure that it, like, wasn't there. You wiped it off well. Okay, great. So, this is an interesting one. This is a Discover card. This looks like where a lot of the BS spending is, which I thought a lot of it was on the checking. But, no, there's more. We started with$412, but you paid$322, so there's a little bit of a balance on it. But then we made$1 ,647 of purchases. Now, it looked like for a second, okay, maybe she comes close to paying off her balances. Does she pay off the balances? I'm not 100 % sure because there was$24 of interest charged on this with, I don't even know the interest rate on here.
38:09Probably close to like 20 to 30. I have them written in here. I just can't remember what page it's on. I wanted to make it easy because it was all at once. Well, and then there's the$53 minimum monthly payment. But what's up with this card? Why did we spend$1 ,600 on here? I'm losing interest rate on here. When you're so close to this having no balance. Yeah, I was really close to having nothing on there. I don't remember what is on there. Does it say it on the statement, like what the purchases are? We had some Home Depots. We had some Dogwood. That makes sense. Jack and Ginger's, lots of Amazon.
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38:45I remember that. And Kung Fu, Rose Room, McDonald's. That was my first time at the domain. Really? Yeah. I never really been anywhere there before and my friend took me. That happened. A Roku thing and Raising Cane's. Some grocery stores are done. There's Marshalls and Alta, In-N-Out. That doesn't look like gas from 7-Eleven. It's too cheap unless you did a very small amount. It was$12. $12? It was definitely gas because I don't buy anything from Amazon, Andy's Frozen Custard, in and out like ibisu and papa john's and chick-fil-a chick-fil-a starbucks amazon amazon total wine i mean these are things you do not need alta steak and fries yeah yeah forest family well i'm okay with dentists yeah that obvious yeah that was my dentist which definitely but all of that was so much BS spending with a 27.49 % interest rate.
39:50So why did you spend all that money on crap? Yeah, I'm definitely still trying to figure that out. Okay. So there's a mental thing here that we have to get over or address, not necessarily get over, but address. So I like
40:10that you know with credit cards you can like gain um like points and stuff like that and sometimes i let that get to my head but you're losing a lot of money way more so try not to let that get to my head sometimes i like justify like oh well you know it'll have this many points and then it'll kind of cut off um but i don't want to think like that no so i would never think like that yeah my my brain is telling me well you you honestly i mean what do i always say what are you not i thought she watched my videos i do watch your videos but you're not a credit card person yeah not at the moment no i don't i don't think you're a credit card person in general if you weren't in a position where you're putting all this money on here because this point's when we're not paying it off and we're holding balances on these things when we're consolidating into different things.
40:58You're just not a credit card person. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with not being a credit card person. You don't have to use that. You can use the debit card. You can use the card that I always recommend, the Fizz card, which is linked below. That helps spend selectively on certain categories, which helps you prevent overspending, which clearly you have an issue with on certain things. That's okay. You can do that instead of credit cards. I like to finesse every single little thing. The rewards on credit cards are great for me. it is not going to make it or break it in life. So it does not matter if you're getting them or not.
41:30I just like to finesse everything. And when people are credit card people, that's awesome. You're in the vast majority who's not. Chop them up. Never use them again. That's what's going to be easiest for you to recover and not get into the situation again. Because you've been dealing with this since your early 20s. Yeah. And you're almost in their 30s. Yeah. So I feel like in the future, it might be something to revisit using a credit card. because what's happening okay what's happening is i have no like i'm not able to have any fun because all of my spending is going to the credit cards so i think that's what happens is like i get you're having a lot of food fun though no literally i get like um kind of stir crazy in my mind and i'm like i'm like spending all this money like you know to credit card debt and all of this and it becomes a little bothersome and then I make the plan like hey you know be really really really diligent here and then it just doesn't follow through because I feel like I'm using all my money for something that's not happening at the moment it's very it's very hard to like I know exactly who you are in that particular instance you're that person that will come up with a really good plan you're just just hard to commit to hard to sustain that plan you're just in and out of plans a lot and that's okay i mean that's just that's just your personality what we have to figure out is the best way to counteract that now you mentioned having a boyfriend utilize that position girl get this food for free thankfully he does pay for a lot of food you're getting out of death if he is on board with the situation um that's actually what i told him recently i was like hey dude i was like hey i'm going on caleb's channel i just recently like really made my budget like super super tight i told him i was like all i have right now is like 50 bucks if i want to do a youtube video and or you know a couple youtube videos 50 across a couple um and then every other food thing i was like you're pretty much gonna have to pay for it if you want to go and do that so i i just updated him on that part and on that specific thing too how long have you guys been together um we just had two years in march okay i would be very open about all this that you're doing which it sounds like you are but even more open have almost like a monthly meeting where he can help keep you accountable on sticking to these things that you tend to fall off that could be helpful like the strict budget if he can hold you accountable and just like all right girl what are we doing yeah when you're spending over on a category like this budgets are very easy to put together they're incredibly easy to not use as well yeah because i have one and it's going good right now i'm like allocating extra funds um to each card but i'm trying to do it in a way that makes sense so like the care credit it has the highest interest so i'm allocating the amount that it is owed and then more and then the next one that has interest more but less than the care credit so but i don't know if that's the right thing to do i don't know if i should just pay minimum on everything else fix the care credit and then start from like the you know what i mean we'll talk about that in a second i need to know about this car what is the balance on it um i think it's 15 15 000 right now ran what's your minimum monthly payment you make you made so many different payments so i make different payments on it um like before i had the budget and i figured out like what to send i was making different payments on it like i paid like a hundred and And then I would pay other bills.
45:00And then I made sure that I had enough. It was like a weird thing that I was doing. If we're budgeting, we don't have to do things like that. Yeah. So I don't do that now. So what's your minimum monthly payment? Oh, it's 412. Yikes. Okay. What's the... And it has... What is the thing? What's the length? Do you know? When did you get it? Yeah, it's 72. And I got it... Why is everyone 72? Because I was being... When did you get it? I got too big for my britches before using Texas slang. Yeehaw. When did you get it? 2020. Okay. What's the car? It is a 2016 Mazda CX-5.
45:36Okay. What's the interest rate? So the reason that it's so expensive is... What's the interest rate? I didn't have a statement. I need to know the interest rate. Can I look it up real quick? Yeah. Okay. Because it has like... I think it gains like a dollar and something per day, I think is what it says. Your minimum monthly payment is lower than you thought. No, that's because I already... When I do, okay, so it's due on the 16th. I pay most of it with the check that I get on the 6th, but I do pay 100 or 200 with the previous. That's what I try to do. I like to split it. It makes it easier. But it just, before I made this budget, it was depending on things.
46:13But now that I made the budget, it is very particular. How is an interest rate not on a statement? Isn't that weird? I don't know. So all I know is that the daily interest is 327. So if you want to do some like backwards math or something,
46:32I've been doing so much math for.
46:53Cup Championship game this Tuesday at 830 Eastern only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com slash Amazon Prime for details. All of this, my brain is like seeing you at about 8 % interest. Okay. Oh, I keep forgetting. What is it whenever you're I know what it's called, but for some reason, it's just leaving my brain right now. You know, whenever you total your car and they pay for the rest of it, the rest of your loan. Yeah, because you had insurance on it. No, no, no. It's the other thing. The gap. I have gap insurance and it's in my payment. Oh, gotcha. Okay. That's why it's 412 because it would have been like 370 or something, but I added the gap and so it made it 412.
47:37And that's with the loan. Like it's already in there. I can't choose to take it or leave it. Well, your debt pile is crazy, obviously. It's really bad. It's obviously. We're like nearing$25 ,000. yeah and that's not talking about like school stuff which i don't even think about i don't think about it well we need to think about it what is it what is it is it all private or is it all public so sorry i haven't had to think about it in a while because of like the whole 2020 thing they like stop okay so it's all federal then no private i think so but part of it is at a collector
48:19what but they don't call because of the pandemic how long has it been in collections probably 2019 are you gonna wait another three years for it to fall off is that your plan i literally have no idea it's not on anything right now i don't know what it's doing it's with this company called williams and fudge and they called me the first time i thought it was like some weird thing the reason that it's there is because i actually didn't realize that i signed up for it like whenever I was at school when I was at school every couple of months they would like call me into the thing and be like hey like you have this payment and you have to do this and I just signed stuff to stay in school they were like if you don't sign this you can't stay and I didn't know what I was doing that system yeah I didn't know what's the balance of your student do you have credit card on your phone yeah yeah go ahead and pull that up we can take a look the one that's at williams and fudge i think is 17 well you can wait a couple you can wait a few years and it could it'll fall off your credit i don't know if that's actually if you don't touch it if you don't touch it well i haven't touched it at all if it's in collections and you don't make a single payment it hasn't like hit my credit or anything it's really really weird okay well if i don't know what's your credit then i don't know do you want to allow sure face id yeah so currently nothing is in collections and then the things that the item line with student loans is uh 13 000 because i was paying on those before the pandemic happened and then i was like oh i can start paying toward my debt and then i made really poor decisions and added more debt because i've always expected I mean they were calling me every Every day And I would just like block them From the Williams and Fudge But then they just never It stopped because of the pandemic Yeah you don't have anything in collections on your credit Are you sure it wasn't like A scam I don't think so because I looked it up and everything They sent me like a document It's just been so long that like I can see if I have the email Well honestly honestly this is the way I would think about it for me personally they're not threatening to do anything legally if it's not on credit and stuff like that I might just not worry about it yeah I feel like once it like shows up then I should worry about it because obviously they can like garnish my wages or something I don't really know about how that works don't give them access to anything in your accounts just don't give them access to anything like the IRS can garnish your wages and stuff like that and not paying on your student loans from the federal government.
51:04If I didn't pay this, that's whenever the IRS would take money from me? Potentially if you don't pay on your federal student loans. But I paid on those. I don't know what. But your situation is kind of confusing. I don't have a lot of great insight into it, so I don't want to say anything definitive. Sounds good. But yes,$13 ,076 into the student loans. Yeah, and I didn't finish. I don't know what the interest rates are. uh it was like four the last time i looked okay yeah it wasn't bad and it's not it's not anything now because it's gonna be like a 225 dollar minimum monthly payment essentially yeah it's not anything right now because we don't have interest rates yet i don't know when they're bringing them back uh summer or fall cool so i mean this is the way that i think about i mean your minimum payments as you said you know it's basically a thousand bucks it's poo yeah i'm gonna lay out my budget that i want to see how it deals with yours okay what's your portion of the rent um for rent currently it is i think it's 735 for my half what about your half for utilities internet all those things combined so i'm gonna say something and i just need you to take it as fact and not have an opinion about it okay i have an opinion but go ahead so for the um utilities it's 80 and then groceries is 100 and not groceries not groceries okay utilities is 80 and then spectrum is the 40 20.
52:31What would I have an opinion about that? We only split rent. Oh, you take care of all the utilities. Why? Because it's a very long, that's, I don't want people to have an opinion about that. I don't want people to talk. What's his work situation? Um, he works with Amazon. He has a job. He's had the job the whole time. It doesn't really matter because you guys are not married anyway if that's the deal that you guys made that's the deal you guys made okay but yeah he's he works he doesn't call out he makes like 21 an hour okay okay that's fine uh insurance is that taken through work yeah so before pay okay cool with insurance right now um what's your car insurance it takes out oh car insurance is freaking expensive right now it's 170 and i keep changing it to lower it and then it goes up again i hate living in austin because there's too many accidents it makes insurance so expensive but my health insurance is only 90 and it already comes out of my check it comes out so we're not gonna worry about that this is we're wearing a bunch of post tax okay cool and i usually spend like 80 bucks in gas do you have a okay thank you yeah do you have a workplace 401k no i don't use it because I always leave.
53:55What's the match on it? Probably like one. I really don't know. I always leave. You don't know? I would look at the match because that's 100 % return on your money. I'm not going to stay at this job. But you'll roll it over to your next place. It doesn't matter. You just keep rolling it over. I don't know how to do it though. It's so easy. It's so easy. And any place can help you with it like Fidelity. They help me do my roll over. I think that's who they have right now is Fidelity. It's so easy. Please, if there's a match that is 100 % match on a certain percentage please just do it because it is 100 % return on your money.
54:24It makes no mathematical sense to do anything else. Yeah, I used to do it at other places. Your minimum monthly payment on debt right now, according to those statements, which is what I'm going to go off as$892. Yeah. I pay extra. Like, I put the$1 ,000 is with extra. Okay. So, but, okay. I'm going to give you food. This is groceries. Not eating out. Nothing like that. Food. Real food. of$300 for yourself. You and your boyfriend can have some combined thing for the household. He can contribute whatever. You can contribute only$300 no more. I usually just do $100. Okay, that's fantastic. We'll say$300 though for the sake of the budget.
55:04Total paper money, anything you need to survive in the house, we're going to give$100. All that good stuff. Gas insurance. Okay. Anything else that happens monthly that you have to take care of? Amazon Prime. Do we put that in there? How much is it? $17. Fine. And I also pay for YouTube Premium because I don't like ads. Okay, fine. So your subscription is like$25. Okay. And then what do you think about... We didn't really get to dive into the apps that I use for the YouTube stuff. What do you use? Use apps? iCloud is for the extra space that I need for the videos as well as Dropbox. And then the other one that's on there is Splice, and that's where I edit the shorts.
56:07How much are all those together? it's $53.96 with YouTube premium I just put it like all together here okay it's like$45 okay
56:25alright well consider that a part of your since you're trying to make it a hustle in terms of working and you're not putting a lot of money towards it I will allow it to be in there for now we'll see how it shapes out right now that's shaping out in my budget to be$2 ,274.13 a month The reason you're spending a lot less than I gave you on groceries is because with that city credit card and with your checking account, you're going out to eat almost every single day. True. That's a good point. So you don't have to spend a lot on groceries. Yeah, good point. So that means right now your needs category, your needs category is 73 % of your income.
57:03Nope. That's horrible. That's 23 % over what it should be at its very peak. Yeah. So that's really bad. Like, it feels heavy. It is. And the debt is the biggest one. Yeah. There. That's what's taking it. When I wrote that down, I was really disappointed that I did that. But this is what we're going to do going forward if we want to actually deal with crap. We're going to rover as much as we can. Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now. In everything as we can. That takes priority over YouTube right now until you're out of the debt. We're doing that every single second of our life that is not working this other job, and you're bringing in as much as you can.
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58:20From Rover? Yes. So I'm still gaining clients because I just started, and we're supposed to be going into the peak period. Your estimate of what you think you can bring in on a month on average? $2 ,000. $2 ,000. percent aside for taxes for yourself with your income? I've just tried not to really touch too much of it. We're going to be touching it now. This is income. So you need to set 25 percent aside in a high yield bucket somewhere that you're not touching. So don't leave it in the savings account? Well, okay. You can leave it in your business savings and then transferring the rest over. I want you to transfer 75 percent over into your main checking hub where we are using the budget.
58:59Okay.
59:03So setting$600 a month aside, you're going to have$1 ,400. Okay. So save every$2 ,000. Save like$600. Yeah, just save 25 % every time money comes in. Yeah, I was like, because I've made such bad decisions with stuff, I just didn't really want to touch it. That's why I put it in such a separate account as well, because I was kind of scared that I was going to do something with it. We have$2 ,225. Okay. Now, what I am going to do, to be nice, is as long as you are actually bringing in about$2 ,000 from Rover on a monthly basis, you can put$100 of it aside to get YouTube video food. Okay? Okay. Thankfully with the groceries, that's, that's what I actually like doing is what I really, really like doing is on a Sunday, film a grocery video, show people what they can cook at home.
1:00:03Because for some reason, even though there's been like all this inflation, a lot of people have this idea that eating out is less expensive than cooking at home. And it's really, really frustrating because you can make really delicious food at home without spending a whole bunch of money. So I feel really passionate about that. So I just need to get back into that.
1:00:22It's because So we're really lucky we have H-E-B. They feel like they're required to get eggs. They're not required to get eggs to survive. Either way, 2 ,125 is what is left now on an average monthly basis. That is what's left. Month number one, all of that because you were not having fun. That costs money. Your boyfriend is, if anything. And you can go have free stuff. Go to the parks. We have a lot of great parks and nature trails. I've been getting a lot of those since I'm dog walking and pet sitting now. But month number one, starting this month because we're in the beginning of this month, month number one, Discover is paid off.
1:00:56Or sorry, the city card is completely paid off. Do you want me to do the care card at first since it has the highest? Which city one? I have a simplicity or I have a double cash? I think that's the... I think it's a double cash too. I think that one has more... I think that one has a higher rate on it. Did I miss the simplicity? What's the simplicity one? Did we not? I don't know if I had it. What's owed on the simplicity? It's like the same as the double cash So for the simplicity one right now I send them$100 For the double cash right now I send them$70 Okay so now you have$2 ,000 left Because we missed that so your debt's a little more anyway So you have$2 ,000 left Either way one of the cities is gone First month And then you put$500 towards the other city Then the next month the other city's gone And you have$1 ,000 left You put that towards here the discover card so in month number three i'm glad you're saying that because it kind of is similar to what i wrote down but yours is more aggressive than what i wrote you gotta be aggressive because i wasn't sure about how much because you have nothing in retirement which is terrifying you're about to enter 30 you've already lost your best decade yeah for life for compound growth so month number three uh it all goes to discover you have a little bit left and you can put that towards the upgrade card okay the upgrade card and then for uh for a couple more months you put it towards the upgrade card get that paid off and then for about uh two months you do the costco card and then that's fully paid off so i think that's by november right so it's seven months from now where are we at the end of seven months so eight months from now and that'll be perfect because yeah december i might be able to put more in november and december like to really really really be aggressive because that is the month that i'm planning to make 5 000 like both of those months i'm planning to make 5 000 each with rover because they're super super busy so i am like really gonna hit it hard good during that time do and we're not spending money anymore outside of this budget it doesn't exist there's no more effort we can't do it anymore there's no more yeah i don't want to have your boyfriend or someone hold you accountable you'll come back on here eventually and we will hold you accountable.
1:03:12But throughout the process, we need to have someone, some system to hold you accountable because you go on and off plans a lot. And the only way to do this is to go crazy. So we're at the beginning of December with what the interest rate is on this car. At this point, I'd probably use a month or two months. And guess what? You have an extra almost$1 ,000 left now. So you have like$3 ,000. You have extra on a monthly basis. I'd put that$3 ,000 in a high yield on the side just as an emergency. Simple emergency. and then everything else for the$3 ,000 you have,
1:03:46I'd pay off the car, which will take five months. So now at the beginning of December, we use December as the savings month, or essentially to like June of next year. June of next year, you're completely debt-free. That's what I'm hoping. You have a starting emergency fund. Now at this point, with what it takes for you to survive without the debt, you don't need to have a crazy emergency fund. I'm going to say like 9 ,000 so you just do another two months get to 10 ,000 and round it out as your emergency fund so boom August we're at the end of August and you have a fully funded emergency fund and you have no more bad debt I'm really glad that you said that because I was hoping to be able to get 10 ,000 by that time too you can only do it though if you really buckle down and actually do this every single day Not just every single month, every single day, every single second.
1:04:38You're working. You are not having paid for fun. And you're just going crazy. Because at this point, you'll already be almost 30. And that's when you need to start saving for retirement. Minimum 20 % of your post tax. I would definitely be contributing up to the match at your workplace. Starting now. Because it's 100 % return. And you can just continue rolling those over as you switch workplaces. Okay. Yeah, I'm glad that we got to talk about it because there's not really a person like in my life that is financially savvy. So there is no really like my boyfriend. I mean, I've even tried to talk to him about putting aside$100 a month into a savings like looking at someone who doesn't have any debt and you know what you have done and you like want to help them.
1:05:31but they haven't been through the things that you've been through is like really really hard um so yeah so i'm kind of alone in that but i'm hoping that like since we've talked now that it'll help because i i feel i feel good right now i i feel relatively okay about the situation what's holding me back is you've known this was bad since 22 you haven't done anything you go you create plans you fall out of them yeah so what we need to do is for you to just because a year and a half and you're done yeah it's incredible but it only works if you actually fully connect to it if you have with interest rates this takes like five years yeah that's i think that's what keeps and that's without you going into more debt if you continue the down the road you're in you're never out of debt yeah that's definitely what keeps happening is i'm like oh it's only like this far because i was doing so well in 2020 i really was almost there i had like $700 of credit card debt left.
1:06:29And then I bought a bed, like a mattress. And there was something about that, that just like ignited something in here and it just fell completely off again. So I definitely want to take care of this. I don't want to be in this situation. Okay. Well, boyfriend, if you're watching this, hold her accountable and sorry for making her cry. I want to know from your perspective, knowing yourself, be as a hundred percent honest as possible. What are you actually going to do leaving here? What am I going to do leaving here? I'm probably going to write some more stuff down and hear about like what we just talked about, because I don't want to forget what you said.
1:07:14Thankfully, I don't have to. I won't fail to forget because it's on camera. So that's really nice. I feel like since I already stopped spending on the credit cards, like since we, um, since I decided that I wanted to be on the channel, I feel like that's a really good start. And I'm just going to keep trying to be positive about it. Cause I don't want to beat myself up about something, but I do want to be serious about it. Um, I'm feeling really good right now, especially with the Rover thing. I feel like I made a really, really good decision getting into that because I don't have to put that much.
1:07:45I don't have to put that many hours into it to make the amount of money that I've been making so far, which means to have more hours to put into it to make more money. So I'm just still doing as best as I can with that. Like I said, I accept everything that I can, all the requests that I get, I accept them if I'm available. Um, I've been sleeping, I've been house sitting every, I literally have not had a day off since we started chatting because I've been staying at people's house to house it. I'm super exhausted, but I really, really want this. That's where I'm at right now. For Madison, again, sorry I made you cry, but we're showing just how extreme the debt is, and that can really hit at home how dire the situations are.
1:08:29And it is a dire situation when it comes to the Hammer Financial Score. So Hammer Financial Score right now with no retirement, continuing to get into that, going into plans and getting out of plans and into plans out of plans. And right now it cannot be good. So it's going to be a one out of 10, but I really hope in a year and a half from now, when we're like five out of 10 and we just get higher and higher and higher as we're saving for retirement, we eventually get into a personal residence that we own. So I'm really hoping for Madison and the follow-up we'll see. Please succeed. I know you're watching this.
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