100+ Years Of Insane Debt | Financial Audit

10 Dec 2025 · 1 h 39 min

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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Overview

  • Title: 100+ Years Of Insane Debt
  • Host: Caleb Hammer
  • Guest: James, a 26-year-old retail store manager from Spokane, Washington
  • Topic: A deep dive into James's financial situation, including his extensive debt related to breeding dogs and personal loans.

Key Highlights

Introduction

  • The episode opens with a humorous take on the financial choices people make, specifically regarding dog breeding.
  • The host sets a light-hearted tone, moving into a serious examination of James's financial situation.

Guest's Background

  • James's Income:
  • Annual salary: $68,000 (~$4,158 monthly after taxes).
  • Currently managing a retail store, and he recently doubled his income.

Debt Overview

  • Total Debt:
  • James has accrued significant debts through various means, including:
  • Dog Breeding:
  • James initially paid $12,000 for a one-third share in a French bulldog as part of a breeding arrangement.
  • Subsequent debts include personal loans for dog-related expenses and medical bills totaling around $50,000.
  • Personal Loans & Credit Cards:
  • James has multiple credit cards with high-interest rates, adding to his financial strain.
  • He expresses a desire to become debt-free within the next year but acknowledges the difficulties he faces.

Financial Missteps

  • Animal Breeding Business:
  • James's attempt to build a "bulldog empire" led to unnecessary financial strain, with little return on investment.
  • The breeding operation has become an unsustainable expense rather than a profitable business venture.
  • Living Situation:
  • James lives in a 700 square foot house with his girlfriend and multiple dogs.
  • The house has a negative equity position, meaning it is worth less than what is owed on it.
  • Spending Habits:
  • James readily admits to poor spending decisions, including unnecessary purchases for dog care and personal luxuries.
  • The conversation reveals a troubling pattern of relying on credit and loans without a clear repayment strategy.

Advice and Recommendations

  • Host's Analysis:
  • Caleb Hammer provides a candid analysis of James’s financial practices, emphasizing the need for a strict budget and debt payoff strategy.
  • He suggests that James should consider selling excess cars to pay off debts and improve his financial standing.
  • Budgeting Issues:
  • The episode highlights James's inability to control spending, particularly on discretionary items like energy drinks and hobbies.
  • The host stresses the importance of budgeting for essential expenses only, advocating for a focused approach to debt repayment.

Personal Relationships

  • Relationship Dynamics:
  • James's girlfriend is also contributing financially, complicating their relationship dynamics.
  • Caleb encourages James to consider the long-term implications of their financial situation on their relationship and future plans.

Conclusion

  • The episode ends with a reflection on the lessons learned from James's financial journey.
  • Caleb emphasizes the importance of taking actionable steps towards financial health, encouraging listeners to assess their own financial situations.

Takeaway Points

  • Budget and Track Spending: Understanding where money goes is crucial to financial health.
  • Avoid Unnecessary Debt: Breeding animals can lead to significant financial pitfalls; it's essential to assess the viability of such ventures.
  • Communicate Financial Goals: Transparency with partners about finances can lead to healthier relationships and better financial planning.
  • Emergency Fund: Building an emergency fund is vital to mitigate the risks of unexpected expenses.

Resources Mentioned

  • DollarWise Budgeting App: An app recommended for tracking expenses and managing finances.
  • Master Your Money Courses: Offered by Caleb Hammer for financial education.

Call to Action Listeners are encouraged to take their financial score assessment at calebhammer.com to evaluate their financial standing and receive personalized advice.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. 12 ,000 hours for a Frenchie? A thousand dollars for a third of a Frenchie. How do you get a third of a Frenchie? So, co-ownership. What the f**k? That's not what you're actually gonna get. I'm saying rent, asshole. Well, you said your mortgage, asshole. Oh no! I've never seen this in my life! If I did my calculations correctly, I believe that I did. You are f**king way. I'm trying to be debt free in the next 12 months.

0:29My Black Friday site-wide blowout is live! You can get 20 % off everything in the store with code BF20. That is 20 % off courses, merch, and even the brand new Master Your Money membership. But don't wait too long. This sale ends at midnight on Friday, December 5th. Happy Black Friday and enjoy your savings. Hi, I'm James. I'm 26 years old from Spokane, Washington, and this is Financial Audit. Washington. I haven't had a Washington person, I think, in a long time. This is awesome. Not a cheap state. Spokane, I'm not 100 % sure, but very cool. Thanks for coming down. Yeah. What do you do there?

1:08I'm a manager of a retail store. Sure. Last time I had a manager of a retail store, she actually made a lot of money, so I hope you're making a lot of money. Yeah. Better career path than a lot of people give it credit for. Yeah. Because I know when you start on the ground floor, it f***ing sucks. Well, I mean, I turned over in a year. I literally, July 26th was when I started with the company. You probably showed the ambition and everything. Yeah. Okay, very cool. What do you make? 68 annually. Now, again, for Spokane, I don't really know, but in terms of the United States, that is good. You are doing well.

1:39I mean, you're towards the median household income of the United States. Household income, usually two people. So you're doing pretty okay, I would think. What hits your account on a paycheck basis? I think my paychecks are 2054. So 2054 total would be 4108. Okay. And how you doing? It's okay. I'm doing okay. You know, it was really rough getting here. I racked up a lot of debt this last year. Yeah. Well, not to Austin, but to this point, you know, because in a year I doubled my income. So this whole year has been really rough. That should be good. Yeah. Where I'm at right now is getting a lot better.

2:14My eyes! I'm feeling pretty comfortable, but, you know, I'm still in debt. So obviously not that comfortable. Well, I think what likely was the issue was not your lack of income, but literally trying to build a bulldog empire in your backyard and went into a shit ton of debt to breed bulldogs. Yeah. Endlessly. Yeah. In your backyard to start a bulldog empire. They have their own room. In your house? Yeah. Gotta figure out how to make money on this thing. It's simply too good. How do you build a bulldog empire in a single spare room in a house? Well, with love and a lot of hard work and, you know.

2:53No, them f***ing. Yeah. But I got a - 700 square foot house. 770. Yeah, it's tiny. It's tiny. We got - So there's technically two bedrooms and then a mudroom and then like a kitchen living room. And what did they have? They got the mudroom. All right. Isn't the mudroom usually not AC'd or heated? So we have two window AC units and a lot of fans. So what the f*** are you trying to do with Bulldog Empire? What is this? I had a buddy who owed me a dog. We did some work together. Owed you a dog? Yeah, so I didn't make nearly as much money as I thought I was going to with the work that we were doing.

3:29So you guys made bets on dogs? No, we made a deal where he's like, hey man, I feel bad, so I'm going to give you a bulldog because I'm breeding my blue-nosed pit bull. Or it was a pit bull. You're doing pit bulls, not even bulldogs. Because pit bulls, they breed themselves quite easily. No, so he ended up not breeding the pit bull. And so he called me like a year later. He's like, hey, I still eat your dog. And I was like, yes, you do. He said, go drive to the Tri-Cities. You can get this Frenchie. Turned out that I was buying the Frenchie. So it was like a really weird thing. And they are not cheap.

4:01How much? $12 ,000. $12 ,000. $12 ,000. Not$1 ,200. $12 ,000 for a Frenchie? $12 ,000 for a third of a Frenchie. How do you get a third of a friendship? So, co-ownership. What are we talking about? What the f*** are you even... What are you on about? This doesn't make any sense. You're not renting rooms in a house. You're not owning a third of a company. No, it's a third of the breeding rights. So, the dog was mine. I own the dog. But the litter... Doesn't sound like it. Okay. the production of the animal is what I own a third of. So the dog stays in my house. She's my dog. But the litters that I was at that point contractually obligated to have, I owned one third of the production of.

4:50What you're doing. Except for the French bulldog. Oh, the first litter I got nothing from. I actually bought a dog from the first litter of the litter that I made. So I had a litter, fell in love with one of the animals, bought that animal, paid no, sorry $6 ,500, I bought half of that dog bought half of a dog yes okay yeah, so, you know it was kind of one of those things where I got a little on the first one, so I got in on the second one, in a better deal $1 ,200, you just got$12 ,000 for a third of a dog,$12 ,000 $12 ,000 for a third of a dog, just wait until we get to the studs the what? the studs, the boys because these are the moms, right?

5:36So I bought one of the first litter because I didn't get anything from the first litter of the dog that I paid$12 ,000 for one third of. I only got a third of the second and third litter. We didn't end up having a third litter, so I paid$12 ,000 for one third of one litter. Yeah. Okay, okay. The next dog I had full on. Wait, how did you possibly even come close to affording$12 ,000? I'm sorry. Like even on the 68,$12 ,000, it's an insane amount of money. It was a friendly loan. How did you do a friendly loan? It was from them. I owed them$12 ,000 of which I was supposed to. The person that sold a third.

6:17Yes. So I left their house with the dog without any money. For fuck's sake, that's impossible. Was there a contract signed? No. What? Not even for the ownership? No. What? No. Yeah, so it's a buddy of a buddy. I have a really good friend that I've trusted for a long time that is one of the thirds of the mom, right? So he owns a third. The people over in the Tri-Cities own a third. I own a third. People in Tri-Cities. Is that not Minnesota? No. It's Washington. The Tri-Cities. Is that not? It's Washington. It's – Okay. It doesn't matter. Keep going. Anyways, good buddy who I did some work with owed me a pit bull.

6:58Ended up not breeding the pit bull. I got the Frenchie. I got a third of the Frenchie. I bought half of one of her daughters that I bred. It was an unfortunate situation. And I was planning on continuing with the daughter. We ended up having one more litter with the mother. How many dogs were being born of these litters? So the first litter was four. The second litter, no, the first litter was three. No, it was four. Second litter was four. The third litter was two. So that's how I got my third dog, which is Leia. I kept one of the two. It was Luke and Leia. And she is supposed to be a dog that makes money.

7:38You okay? We haven't had a litter with her yet. Yeah, you took out a$12 ,000 personal loan for her. Well, for her mom. A friendly loan. Okay. Actually, for her mom's mom. So Indigo is who I own a third of. Oh, the names are not going to help. Okay. Okay. How do you want to go about this, Caleb? Can you draw it? Yes, we can try and draw this. Listen, maybe I'm a f***er. I don't know. But it starts with the$12 ,000. So I want you to draw how many dogs and the price tag associated with them and draw the line. So what the f*** is happening? If I'm going to audit this dog operation. Okay, so I own one-third of Indigo.

8:15I paid$12 ,000. She gave birth to Dakota, who I paid$6 ,500 for. And how did you afford the$6 ,500? I took a loan out. What kind? SDCU, an unsecured personal loan. Yes. And what's the date that this started-ish? 2020. What the f***? This is five years ago and we're still dealing with this? Okay, keep going. Yeah. So she had a litter, which I paid$5 ,000 in medical bills for. What? Which had two dogs. I kept one dog. Yeah, every litter is about$5 ,000. You kept one for yourself. Yeah. Just personal for fun. Well, no, to breed. But listen. Listen, if you own a half and a third of that, you just get to keep one?

8:59Kind of. So I co-own this dog with my buddy. Oh, my. How many? What are these ownership? You co-own what dog? Every dog. What dog? Every dog. But which one here? This one is Leia. Okay. And you own what percent? 50%. Okay. Then draw 50%. I guess. I don't know. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, my. This is insanity. And then there's Bean, right? So Bean, I also. Cute name. Also owned 50 % of. She ended up having heart issues, so she didn't get bred. So she's out of the picture. We rehomed her. I didn't pay anything for her. That was like a, hey, I have a dog. I want to breed it. Will you take it? I took it, and then we got it checked out, and I was like, I'm not going to breed this dog.

9:42So from there, I bought, I bought. This one's a fat one. One-eighth. Oh, my. Of my stud. One-eighth. A stud is a. A stud. Man. A man. $40 ,000 dog. This is, I bought half of this dog for$6 ,500. Okay, I'm confused. Is this a woman or a guy? Yeah, so mom, or sorry, grandma, mom, daughter, right? So you were hiring someone's nut throughout those processes. Kind of. So the stud was owned by my co-owner, so we didn't pay anything for the nut on this one. We paid, you're going to hate me for this one. We paid$2 ,500 for the nut, for Leia.

10:28Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Now, okay. You kept one, you got 50%, and you got rid of one. Did you make money off of that? No. How? Because we, so we paid five grand for the medical fees,$2 ,500 for the stud fee. I sold that dog for$2 ,000. Oh, good. Yeah. $12 ,000 for a third of a dog to make$2 ,000? Yeah. Of which you paid$7 ,500 to produce even. So we're not to the best part, right? Okay, the stud. What was it? An eighth of the stud? What did you pay for an eighth of stud? $5 ,000. You f***ing made$2 ,000 off of a f***ing... For an eighth. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Good. Good, good, good. Grandma had another litter.

11:17So grandma's f***ing. Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, so grandma's native f***er. With who? With somebody that we own. You paid for nuts? No, no, no, no, no, no. Not on this one. Not on this one. This was a stud that was owned by one of my co-owners, so it was like, yeah, cool, whatever. Okay, had a litter. What was the makeup of the litter? It was four dogs. Okay, four dogs. Yeah, four dogs, right? So we'll just, whatever, four dogs. No, no, no, now, to be clear, if you own a third of this, but there's a nut from another thing, your dilution is probably more, right? You're diluting. So I own one third of all of those dogs.

11:51Wait, really? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. There's a nut. Would the nut not bring also an entire? No, no, no. Because when you're co-owning, the nut is free. The nut is free? If the stud is owned by one of your co-owners, then it's one of those things where it's like, okay, we're going to use this dog. Okay, so you own a third of grandma's. Yeah. So I sold one dog for$2 ,000. and then the rest of the litter went over to wait, wait, wait, wait, 2 ,000 so you got, what was that, 600, 700? yeah, 660 bucks or something like that, right? the rest of the litter went over to the Tri-Cities to my co-owner why?

12:25because she was better at selling dogs and then she stole them the whole litter what? yeah what does that mean? full radio silence, stole the dogs there was conversation of us going and kicking her door down and taking all of our animals. Is this the mob? The mob for dogs? It was getting there. It was getting there. We ended up trying to be good people, and we left it be because it was one of those things where it's like— I don't know if that's good people. I'm not going to jail over some shit. Well, no. I think there's a difference between doing nothing and breaking in someone's door. Yeah, there's a difference, and there's a middle ground.

13:02Of which is what I would have done. What I did was I commented on all of our Facebook posts, and I started talking my shit and trying to, you know, leave a little bit of a mark on her business. But obviously that's not going to do all that much. Not in your position. No, not in my position one bit. But, yeah, she stole three dogs from me. I hate this woman with a burning passion. She's a terrible human being. Okay. Yeah, so that litter just disappeared, right? Leia was going to have a litter. I didn't really want to have a litter with her I hope you're not having it with her Hey what I do in the comfort of my home right Anyways No So we talked about having a litter with Leia I am contractually Me and my buddy My actual buddy who I co-own The nut would be Cheeks Who we would use for free Because I own an eighth My buddy owns an eighth or a quarter Or something So, yeah, there's a dude who owns half of the dog.

14:07That's who made the dog. Then there's a dude who owns a quarter of the dog who the guy sold him to. And then he sold half of his half because it was a 50-50. He sold half of his half, which would be a quarter, to my buddy. And my buddy sold half of his quarter to me. Okay, so a litter happened? No. While Leah aborted? No, we were getting ready to go with Leia, and then we got an offer for Rolex. Rolex is a dog who has amazing genealogy. She's like a one in a million dog, comes from like all these big dog names, right? So we got an offer to take Rolex for free. We took Rolex. So now we're going to put Cheeks toward Rolex, which is my last contractually obligated litter.

14:57Today? Like you're doing this now? In a couple of months, March. Wow, so this all leads to now. So you've done nothing but lose tens of thousands of dollars. You know, I've been taking care of stuff as it's coming, but it's putting me in a really tough position. Yeah, by the way, why is a third of a dog$12 ,000 when the litter of that dog is$2 ,000 a dog? Well, so these people had also just gotten into the business. Their first year, they made$200 ,000. Cash. Out. made money. The economy crashed. Wait, when? COVID. COVID's when everyone was spending money on dogs. You remember when everyone got a dog?

15:39COVID. Yeah, and then the end of COVID, right? The end of COVID, the economy was doing fine. Inflation, okay, the market crashed, but the job market was still good. Yeah, but nobody was spending$8 ,000,$10 ,000,$12 ,000,$15 ,000 on a French anymore. Who the f*** in general? That's insane. F***ing rich people, man. But yeah, so they made 200K, right? And that's what I got in on the premise of. And then, you know, a year went by. I had a litter. I didn't get anything from that litter. I bought half of a dog from that litter. They made money on that litter. Wait, you were trying to sell Colton one?

16:11Well, no. Trying to sell Lindsay one. Oh, you were trying to sell Lindsay one? Well, she has a present. Yeah, and she wants another one. Well, I love her dog. Her dog's veto. I'd make a trip down here. Like, I have no problem doing that. Just saying. Do the math for me. How much does this all cost? Not after earnings. How much does it cost? Medical bills and everything. Do the math. So 5, 10. Okay. I'll do it. 25, 30, 35. Probably around$50 ,000. Including medical purchases. Something a year on that? To make$4 ,000.

16:54It's um You look about as happy as I am on the inside Not a good return on investment No, no, it's been a travesty It kind of is an MLM It kind of is Because the fact is you're buying into it With the hope to Like sell your product Like the people that made money were the ones that Owned all of it, made dogs Sold them off and now they're selling a percentage Of it because they made money So they're like look how much this is worth, give me a shit ton of money Like an MLM, I am trying to sell to other breeders. So, so, so, so, so, so what? Sell to other breeders. Sell who? Dogs. Oh, it really is an MLM.

17:30So you breed the dogs, the dogs that are born. You're like, you will make money off this dog. There are dogs that are, there are dogs that are, that are, that are pet animals. And then there are dogs. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. There are dogs that are specifically designated to be pet home animals. There are also dogs that it's like, holy crap, this is a nice enough dog that there's probably going to be somebody who wants to make dogs with this dog. And you're doing this all in a 700 square foot home. Well, so. What the f***? How many dogs are in your house? Six. Five Frenchies and a Blue Nose Pit Bull.

18:05Oh. Yeah. Oh. We clean a lot. Who's we? Me and my girlfriend. You got a girl. Lisa. That's her fake name. Oh, okay. Does she know you lost 50 ,000 hours? Yeah, she's very aware. And her thoughts on that after dating the guy for two years, two and a half years. Yes, and two and a half years means we might be going towards marriage. She's okay with marrying a f***. Yeah. Why? Because. Reproducing? I'm f***ing with the dogs. You're going to breed her soon. I have a really, but I have a really good plan, generally speaking. Like, I know what I'm trying to do. Oh, good. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be debt free in the next 12 months.

18:44And I.

18:48Yeah, I have a map. Like, I know where I'm trying to go. Yeah. Show me. It's in my head. Froggy though, bro. It's your life. Erase and draw then. We go back to drawing. My total monthly bills,$4680, right? So. I hope. We'll see. Okay. That's like what I owe to people. Not including. That's what you owe to people. Not like individuals, but like banks, etc. Like my house, my car. Yeah, you spent hundreds more than that, by the way, last month. But keep going. Yep. Yes, I did. So$46.80 is my monthly bills. Not including food and gas. In this plan to solve this so the girlfriend can marry her, she's still married.

19:41Yeah. Your girlfriend is married to another man.

19:48They've been separated for a long time. She is married to another man. We are in the legalities of it right now. You've been dating for two and a half years. Yeah, there was a whole plan. There's some finickiness to it. You've been dating for two and a half years. Yeah. To a woman that is married.

20:10Yes, sir. What the f*** is going on? I mean, there's really not too much of a story to it. They were married for a long time. They were separated for a long time. She stuck around because his kids, not her kids, his kids were like family to her. So she was, you know, parental and they stayed together. They moved to America because she's German. And, you know, they were separated. And then eventually, you know, we met. What the f*** is taking so long? there's not really an answer to that. We just need to get it sorted. We're in the works of talking to a mediator right now. In the works to talking to.

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23:07We paid for it. Who's we? You and her? Me and her, yeah. Well, okay. Could you afford that 10 ,000 hours a year? No, we also couldn't afford the move, but we did it anyways because it was kind of like a closing window. Why? Because he's angry. And it was one of those things. In a murdery fashion? In like a I'm not going to let you have your stuff fashion. And then he finally said, yeah, you can come get your shit. So we sent some people to go get her shit. Okay. And I want to make. And Doug. Here we have the Lemu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual.

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24:26Yes. So you got this 700 square foot bullshit house with another friend? Yes. You're on a mortgage with another friend. You get talked into everything. No, no, no. I kind of talked him into it, honestly. Oh, you're manipulative too. No, it was very, very amicable. We were talking about buying a house so that we could enjoy our life together. You and a friend. That came out a little weird. Are you a homophobe? No, I'm definitely not a homophobe. He was my best friend. We lived together for a long time. I moved out of my mom's house when I was 16, moved in with him and his mom, finished high school, and then we were talking about— He finished you off sometimes as well?

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25:03In an emotional way. That's more gay. We decided to get a house together because we're like, we don't want to rent. And I was like, hey, if you'll help me buy a house, then when, you know, in a couple years I get my shit straight, I will buy you out of— You never got your shit straight, by the way. Correct. Okay. But I'm trying. You offered what? I offered to buy him out of his equity of the house. What is all these handshake deals that you're making with everyone left and right? It's a mess. Trusting. Well, what? Dude, look where you are. This hasn't worked. I mean, it's gotten me where I am.

25:36Like, I have a house of my own. A 700 square foot house that is hard to sell. With a beautiful little yard and plants. It's hard to sell. It is hard to sell, but I'm hoping to rent it. It might be okay for rental. Yeah. Maybe, we'll see. I bought it for$2.35, like everything included. And now I owe$2.47 is the other part of that. Anyways, getting back to the original story. So me and my best friend were like, yeah, let's buy a house. Let's get somewhere that we can do our stuff, right? And then me and his girlfriend, I still consider him one of my best friends. We're not talking at all. I love him to death.

26:09Yes, it's a rough situation. Me and his girlfriend didn't get along very well. I was dating a horrible human being. Actually, I was engaged to a horrible human being. Oh, engaged? Yeah, she ended up cheating on me with her ex-husband. Did he have hair? I think so. I did too at the time, though. We got into the house, and me and his girlfriend didn't get along. My girlfriend was sticking forks into light sockets. Like, terrible human being, just trying to fuck everything. Was she actually doing that? No. Like, metaphorically, she was trying to burn my friendship down. She was, like, trying to isolate me.

26:43She fucked another dude. Yes, she did. that's the big one yeah that's yeah but i care more about the fact that she ruined my friendship because she how did she ruin it she made it easier to ruin uh she was she was telling him oh well you're too late this and that you can't be in these celebrations and everything like it got to the point where he didn't even feel comfortable saying happy birthday to me up with her i did after i figured all this out because she didn't know she was sly she was sly i knew when she f***ed the dude that was when it all ended how'd you find out Because we had Life360 and she didn't hide anything.

27:20And it was just like, you're at somebody else's house. Her ex-husband? Yeah. Husband. A couple years ago. You're 26 now. And she was your fiance. What is your life? Wacky. Let me see what she looks like. Yeah, I can't click on her profile. So I might have to give you her name. Profile on what? Facebook. Good news. I have a Facebook. Who blocked who? I said my piece and she blocked me. What'd you say? That she was a dumb cheating whore and that she deserved to get like she f***ed him. Is that there? Yeah.

28:01I'd rather cut my dick off and play tennis with it than help you with anything.

28:12She said, that's fine. And then you say, perfect. If you could, please refrain from any future contact. I'm attempting to lower the amount of dumb cheating f***s in my life. She said, never cheated, just left, but I got it. Thanks. And then you say, LMAO, you're full of s***. Bye. Okay, I'm going to have to try and dig through my photos because I can't find her on your Facebook either. It's interesting. Your response to cutting off your dick was a response to a message that was from her. after a long couple months of nothing where she said, I hope you're doing well. I messaged me and I saw her and got married.

28:51I know this is a weird question and I'm sure you don't want to hear from me, but I was wondering if you could tell me the games we used to play on Xbox together. Yeah. And then you said, I'd rather cut off my dick. Can't find her? No, I can't. In Instagram? I don't, I mean, I'm sure she has one. I barely use Instagram. Well, here, put it on her name then. And that destroyed your friendship with the guy? You couldn't resume it and say, like, oh. Well, like I said, me and his girlfriend also really didn't get along. And there was a point where, you know, it was kind of a blow up. I was like, hey, you need to.

29:26Fine, why didn't you get along with his girlfriend? It's hard to say this because I'm still trying to, like, repair that friendship. But she hadn't had a job. She was, in my eyes, kind of a user. and she... A user of drugs or him? Him. And she... I'm just going to look her up real quick. She did things that I just didn't really appreciate. She wouldn't say much about... But you can not like her and hold your tongue for the sake of your boy. Well, yeah, but when there are literally dirty dishes in the cupboards because she can't clean things and there are... Yeah, that sucks. doesn't mean you have to be horrible about it I don't know well and I wasn't even that horrible like the last conversation that we had I was like hey you need to make sure that your girlfriend is doing this and that and he's like well you should talk to her yourself and I was like I he's like she's right behind you and I looked at her and I was like I'd love to but every time I bring anything up she just breaks down in balls and then she she like made a face and then started crying and I was just like yeah I I don't know what to do with this I was like see and then And he's like, all right, well, as soon as you can get me off the mortgage, blah, blah, blah.

30:38And I was like, okay, well, I can cover the bills right now. So if you want to go, you can go. And then he left without any money. And that's the six. And how long has that been? 2023. Oh, two years? 23 and a half. And yeah, that's the$6 ,000 that I. And who's being petty to who? As far as what? This friendship. You're trying to rekindle. I mean, I've reached out to him and I was like, hey, man, you know, I quit drinking. I'm doing better with myself. And like, I'm really sorry how everything happened. and like if anything that I did was shitty or whatever, you know. And he said? He said, I appreciate that.

31:09I'm glad there's no bad blood. And then that was pretty much the end of it. Like there was no further communication. You didn't say let's go get a drink or let's get coffee or? I tried to. Well, I didn't try to say that, but it was one of those things where I just felt like there was no openness for communication. That man used to rub oil on her head before he went to bed in his mother's house. You can ask him for coffee. Yeah. Maybe we repair this friendship in the post show. Maybe we call the friend in the post show and we repair a friendship. Ah, yeah. It's worth it. Stop being a pussy. Okay.

31:43All right. Fair enough. Listen, I've lost friends once in my life. That sucks. And sometimes people can be kind of petty middle schoolers. And that is hard to deal with. But it doesn't sound like either of you are. So it's repairable and worth it. Wow. I did delete all my photos of her. Oh, my. Okay. Just show me a picture of you with hair. Oh, there she is. Oh. Listen, I mean, I don't know. It's just one picture, but she's kind of cute. Wait, is this the current? No, that was my previous profile picture. I don't care to update my Facebook very often. I am not one for social media very much. His banners are French bulldogs, by the way.

32:23Me with hair when I was like 100 pounds lighter. Yeah, that hair was running away. It was creeping back. That was. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's when I was trying to cover up the baldness. And let me see the current boyfriend. Girlfriend. Sorry. You seem very gay. And we love it. And we love it. I'll just let you look through her profile pictures. She's pretty too. You do okay. She's gorgeous. I love her to death. She's amazing. Yeah, you do okay. And she's German, so she's actually got values. A little concerned about the rings, the piercings. Oh, the piercings? Very, very, like, she'll f***ing. vote in a communist type person.

33:05We don't talk about politics much. I wouldn't with her. Yeah. She wouldn't with me. She will cancel you. She will call you a predator. No. Okay, so what do you think your finance score is? Zero to ten. Zero being the worst, ten being the best. Half. 0.5. Oh, okay. If you want your financial score, take the assessment. It is free at calebhammer.com. See where you stand in the world of money, where you need to get your shit together, where you're doing pretty well, and what you need to do to fix it. And if you don't want to be like a guest who ends up on the show, make sure you download the DollarWise budgeting app.

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34:04My little lore. Your lore is, it's so stupid. This dog thing is one of the most idiotic, most moronic things I've ever heard in my life. Ever heard in my life, okay? And your current girlfriend looks like someone who is the opposite of able to manage finances in every way whatsoever because they're usually the people that spend 98 % of their life protesting instead of making money. So I understand why she doesn't care. I understand why she doesn't care about your complete financial disaster because she's going to expect a bailout from someone else later. I strongly disagree. She's on a fiscal plan with me.

34:37It's been a tough couple of months. That is true. Listen, here's the reality. Here's the reality. I need to learn about your plan because then I'm going to go through this and I'm going to find out your plan is probably bullshit. But the reality is the first statement is a mortgage. Yeah. They never put a mortgage first. You know why? Because a mortgage is boring. If it is first, that means something is f***ed Meaning you are f***ed Oh yeah, I've been through two refinances So tell me How long have you owned the house? Oh! Why? Okay, well Why? Well, the first one is to get my buddy off And then the second one Well, that one's relatively fair So he was on the mortgage?

35:18Yeah, he was Oh, f***ing, okay Yeah, no, there was no way I could swing it On paper by myself So what did that refinance look like? It looked like painful. That's why I'm at 247K on something that I originally paid 235.5 on. I do have a little bit of equity in the house at least, but yeah, no, I'm above where I started at. I'm supposed to be like 265 for property value right now. Type in the address. Yeah, I mean, the interest rate, it's 6.3. It's kind of in that normal range for today. It's obviously not those beautiful COVID rates for sure. but the fact is I get a monthly payment total amount of due yeah it's because you're overdue you're overdue a f***ing payment that's why it's here you're overdue a f***ing payment on a 700 square foot house that you keep 12 animals what the f*** is wrong with you dick what is dude dude I'm sorry a small gust of wind in this thing is gone this thing is falling apart 1922 Listen, do we have consent to put images with things blurred on screen?

36:28Yeah, I guess that's fine. Okay, so let's make sure we do that. This, even though it's on a slab, is kind of water shed all over this, but this is worse than a trailer. Built in 1922 as a chicken coop. Oh, you live in a chicken coop. He's refinanced the chicken coop twice in three years. Yeah, it's actually a pretty cool little story. So it was built in 1922 as a chicken coop. Some low or some down on their luck family members moved in in the 50s. And then they put. Yeah. Only down on their luck would move into a chicken coop. And they lived there without running water for like a year and a half.

37:01And then they put an addition on with a bathroom and a bedroom. And they put a sink in. They made it a little kitchen. And then late in the 50s. Also, f*** you equity position. No. Because Zillow is honestly usually very generous in terms of what they give you. And Zillow has gotten better over the years. but it literally marks it as you having an equity position. Of like$5 ,000. You having an equity position of$353. Oh, what? That's insane. And that's the generous platform. That's insane. No way you're not negative. And even if you sold it today, you would be having to write checks. Yeah. Uh-huh.

37:41Why the f*** would you buy this? I'm sorry. I've never called anyone's this because usually a home's a home and it's nice. this piece of shit. This is a piece of shit. It was completely torn down and renovated in like 1999. I have the pictures of what it was when you bought it. Yeah, the exterior is a little rough. And I would never say this about anyone's home. I really wouldn't. And I never thought I would. This thing's a piece of shit. I'm sorry. I strongly disagree. But D, we are putting images on screen. This thing is a piece of shit. I would rather have a trailer any and every day. No, I would rather live in a camper, a camper that expands.

38:20You're crazy. No. Campers are. No. No. Guys, everyone, I'm sending this link to the chat right now. Most of the reason that I bought it was the backyard. Places have yards. Yeah, but. Places have yards, dude. Plum trees, cherry trees, pear trees, raspberries, blackberries. Buy those. Raised garden beds, fully insulated shed. Well, okay. Review of the house, everybody. I love it. I'm not trying to meme on someone's house. We never do this, nor apartments, but the fact that you have a negative equity position, if we're being real, a pretty crazy balance for that. It's also a direct stepping stone.

39:00I mean, it's not somewhere that I intended to be for more than a few years. As soon as I get, like, bad debt-free, I'm planning on, you know, putting as much money— I'm glad you're able to speak in reasonable terms, but shut the fuck up. I'm sorry. That's—come on. What are we doing here? Enjoying f***ing life, man. I don't think anyone would enjoy living in this. Okay. Well, I have a lot of shelving units. It opens the space up a lot. He put in shelves. And your girlfriend, when she saw this place? I think her exact words were, it's quaint. Yeah, she really wants to move. And you're over. Yeah?

39:34Yeah. She really wants to move. Me too. And you're past due on this. On this. So. Guy. What is possible? by the way on that which you just saw of which you could rent something nicer than that objectively borderline anywhere for less than this but his normal minimum payment is a thousand nine hundred thirty three dollars and thirty two cents what's even the purpose of purchasing this i do not understand because you don't have an equity position you got it with a friend which is objectively stupid and rent would be cheaper in what way possible for a better place in what way possible this is the dumbest home purchase i have seen i hate landlords dumbest home purchases i I went to nine schools moving everywhere and dealing with a bunch of bullshit.

40:19There's a difference between stupid and... In looking at that, now you have to remember there's 12 animals living there. Yeah, but 11 of them are tiny. Average two-bedroom home, house with yards, rents in Spokane,$1 ,590. Your mortgage payment is usually a three-bed, two-bath in terms of rent at a nicer place. That's not what you're actually going to get for a mortgage in Spokane. I mean, I looked around a lot. I'm saying rent, asshole. Well, you said your mortgage, asshole. Yeah, your mortgage would pay for a nicer three-bed, two-bath place with the yard, asshole, rent. That is true. Of which you don't have to sell and write a check to sell.

40:57Yeah, but I'm not planning on selling it this year. You do not have an option. I'm planning on building it up a little bit. No, no, no, you are not building. You're not adding on to this house. The only item that I want to do is I want to put a closet, like a real walk-in closet. That's all I want to do. So it cost me like$5 ,000 and it would make everything a lot more comfortable. And then I could rent it out very easily. Who's renting that? Who's rent? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because you get, again, we just pulled the average two bed, one bath, nice places is$1 ,500 to rent. Who are you renting this to to cover your mortgage?

41:30I don't think that's the reality in Spokane. Not the reality. Okay. When we pull analytics, it's not the reality because you feel. Because you feel. I'm glad you feel. When I looked for something to rent, anything around$1 ,500 was like a fucking apartment. I don't trust your look. Your look is dumb. And also, come on, that's lower the totem pole rent. But either way, in terms of a property that someone would rent, that is lower the totem pole. Maybe in like Brown's Edition where you're surrounded by gangsters and drug addicts. And you call them Browns? No, it's the f***ing Edition. The guy who built Brown's Edition was Albert Brown or something.

42:05Every neighborhood in Spokane is named after somebody. Can we call Tyler in here? What did I do? I just saw you. Tyler, I have concerns here. What happened, Kayla? What did he do?

42:21He called drug dealers and criminals Browns. No. There's a neighborhood in Spokane called Browns Edition, and it's named after some white dude named Albert Brown or something like that. But no, it's the shitty part of the town for sure. So you call it the Browns? No, it was called the Browns edition. It was actually really nice in like the 40s, 50s, and then it collapsed. Why? Drugs. From? Drug addicts? I mean, there's a lot of f***ing Spokane in downtown. I mean, yeah. F***ing f***ing some. So who lives there, though? Like what kind of people? Drug addicts. Like what kind of people, though? Well, so we have Bloods and Crips in Spokane.

43:00Like, quote unquote, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, there's a dude who walks around downtown. His name is Blue. Then what color is blue? I don't know. He's always wearing a blue tracksuit, though. So, like, what's his skin tone, though? I think he's black. Oh, man. But that's not my fault.

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45:58Okay. A brother named Blue. I need a racist score from our friends. Zero to ten, zero being the least racist, ten being the most racist. See, I don't feel like he's intentionally meaning to be. I'm just going to give you a smooth six. It's called Browns Edition. Smooth, you got a smooth sense. If you want to figure out how racist you are, go to calebhandard.com forward slash racist. Take our racist assessment. See if you need to see where you need to improve your racism or you need to let off the gas a little. That's a thing. We have that. It is now. No, it's a crazy city, though. Do I need to get them back in here?

46:33What's crazy about it? Because there's like the so downtown is a slum. It's horrible. I mean, there are apartments that people pay exorbitant amounts of money for. And what else is there? That are in shitty neighborhoods. Drugs. And all sorts of people. Drugs don't kill people. I'm pretty sure drugs kill people, Caleb. Yeah, drugs kill people. Yeah. No, I got into a nice little area. It's where they were building railroads back in the day. And it's coming a long way. There's a bar on my block, and I hate it. A what? A bar. I want to burn it down. I hate it. Don't say that. That is a worry. Okay, listen, you are past you on this mortgage for a shanty.

47:16For a literal coop house that you are now breeding. Breeding. Your girlfriend's probably not even willing to get bread in there because she wants to move. She wants to flee before her child ever comes. Yeah, I don't plan on having kids in that house. But you plan on renting it, which doesn't make sense for the median rent in that area for places that are nicer. So how are you doing this? But if I can pay a couple hundred dollars a month to rent it out and then eventually have some sort of equity in it that I can then sell it and walk away, I'm cool with that. I'm not trying to necessarily make money on the house.

47:46I'm trying to at least break even at some point. Oh, your realtor that helped you buy this house was your friend? Yeah. You have bad friends. You have bad friends. I think I'm just too convincing. What? No. Because she kept telling me, like, you need to look at more. No, she told me, you need to look at this many houses. And I was like, okay, but I want this house. And she's like, we'll go look at it, but we need to look at more houses. And then we looked at a house. We looked at a house. We looked at the house that I'm in. We looked at a couple more houses. And I was like, I want that house. I chose that house.

48:22Because it was small. I really don't. Okay, care credit. What's going on? Okay, so I guess I do have some dog debt. I had a litter of dogs, man. It's five grand in medical bills. How is this even worth it to have these litters? It can't be. It was at one point supposed to be. It has not been. Well, it was a trend. I love French bulldogs. But come on. Just like everything, it was a trend. I mean, there were dogs selling for$250 ,000. Yes, exactly. Because you were in a bubble. Yeah. You were in a bubble. And it popped. Yes. Yeah. And you still owe on it. And you owe these personal people friendship loans as well.

49:00Right? Right? Still? Yeah. Of course you do. How much have you paid back of the$12 ,000? What$12 ,000? You purchased a third of your first dog for$12 ,000. Oh, that's paid. How? You've made four. I swung shit. I mean, I didn't pay it with dog stuff. At that time, I didn't have any rent because I was still living with my buddy. I was freshly 18. We had just finished high school. Freshly 18? Is this TikTok? I was a brand new adult. What, did you get groomed? No. What the fuck are you talking about? Freshly 18? I'm just being a No one says that for any other age. Why are you trying to infantilize yourself?

49:35I was freshly 18. I couldn't do anything. I was an adult. I spent$12 ,000 on a f***ing dog. Obviously, I made mistakes. You could have just said you were an adult. Yes, I was an adult. You said freshly 18. You're a weirdo. So what? Because it's weird. It's setting up to infantilize. It is so TikTok mingo. So I was 18. I didn't have any rent. I was living with my buddy. We were talking about buying a house. And then I was like, hey, I'm going to drive to the Tri-Cities and pick up a f***ing dog. So I went and picked up a dog and owed a bunch of money. And so I paid all that money and then bought another dog and took out a loan and then bought a house.

50:06And this all happened in like a year. And like I was paying off the loan. Okay. You still owe$4 ,763 on this, which, by the way, minimum to payment only, which is all you do. At like a 32 % interest rate. Oh, yeah. How long does it take to pay off? No purchases of which you'll purchase during the breeding. Yeah. At minimum, I think it'd probably be like 15 years. 18 years, dude. What are you? You'll be in your 40s. What the f***? So it's not deferred. Well, it was deferred. It hit, obviously. And then you're going to max it all the way up to the 7 ,000 when this new breeding hits as well. Yeah, I'm probably going to do that.

50:49Yeah, no shit. And then you're telling me you have a plan. F*** your plan. $159 is your minimum fee payment. It's insanity. It's beyond insanity. You've had interest,$1 ,323 this year. Yeah. For past that bullshit of death. This is disgusting and insane and stupid. There's no fees on this. Okay. So when you miss a payment, like even by a day, right? Yes, that is a late fee. Welcome. I know. But what I was trying to say is that the late fee on that is the entire payment for the month. Okay. You said I had a plan and you didn't draw it. Show me the plan. Very hard to not get the late fees on that.

51:26I thought you failed immediately when you told me what your minimums were because you spent more than it last month by hundreds of dollars. So, yes, tell me your plan, this grand plan, special plan. $46.80 is all my bills. I'm trying to spend$300 a month on food, which— What? Is that on a bill? On my debts owed. Mark it. Mark it. Mark this shit so I can follow along. You're just putting numbers.

51:48Food, debt. Ah! And just like usual, I'll let you use the Fizz card because at least it's the debit card that builds credit. Yeah. Like, what the f***? Because you cannot spend money. You cannot control. I will allow that. Debt's being credit and all that. 4680. That's insane. 4680 is your credit when you bring in, what did you say? No, so 4680 is home utilities. Wait, you told me you're bringing in$4 ,158 a month. Yeah, and then my girlfriend pulls in like 26, 27. Why does your girlfriend matter? Because. Why is she contributing to your bills? Some of it is her debt. We have a credit card together, and then she also helps with the house.

52:23You have a credit card together with your girlfriend who just moves in a year. Yeah. So she has a credit card. I'm on it. Oh. Why do you do this with everything? Everything. Everything you do, you do the same thing. Keep going because it's already broken, but sure. Yeah. So I make$4 ,100 income. she makes like $2 ,600 puts us at$6 ,700 so total with getting by so I forgot gas about$300 oh is there even a point to have this conversation it's broken it's not even working we're at like$52 to survive $6 ,700 by the way the girlfriend reminder that is providing money to this and that he's on a credit card with is married to another man just reminding everyone.

53:21Continue. So 6 ,700, we're total looking at 50 to 80 here. So that puts us at, what, 14 20 left over. No! Here, let me do the math. Let me do the math. Can I see? Give me this. Okay. Okay. Add this up. Okay. He doesn't believe me. Well, so far it's not working. I'm doing the equation myself. 300 food, gas, 350. I got the tism. I like numbers. Yeah, you don't listen to them. Okay, if I did my calculations correctly, and I believe that I did, I believe it adds up to, you are f***ed. Dude, you are f***ed. And that is the math. And that's fair. Like, what? That doesn't make any sense. You spent more than you made last month.

54:18I don't understand this girlfriend thing. Who even knows if she wants to stick around? I don't know why she would. But I, okay, okay. I don't know, man. S-T-C-U credit card. It's my least favorite credit card. I hate that credit card. Why do we have favorites and least favorites when it just comes to your f***? So I don't spend on it, honestly. The reason that it's over max, the reason that it's over max is because I have overdraft protection and I keep getting bit in the ass because I've - Wait, overdraft protection on your checking account pulls from a credit card? Yeah, and I need to turn it off.

54:52I need to take all of my bills off of it. You have a credit card? Overdraft protection on a credit card? It's super, super f***ed. Are you telling me you've had$3 ,642.76 of overdraft protection? No, no, no, no. The f*** you not spending on this. F*** you. It's been a long time since I spent on it. Oh, no. I've never seen this in my life. Minimum monthly payments, no purchases? This takes 45 years to pay off. It's predatory. I don't understand how credit. You, you're the one who set up auto draft. If you got f***ed by auto, you're predatory. You did this. Yes. $73 payment. Yeah. 43 years. 45 years.

55:46You're going to be 60. years old. You're gonna be two years past being able to take money away from your tax advantage retirement accounts. If I paid minimum. That is - Of which you can't even do anything more if we're being completely honest across the board. You, your math is broken. You're fucked. Dude, you had fees. You have fees. What's the fee? Oh, what's the fee? It's a$5 cash advance charge every time it Oh, well interest accrues on it. And the other side. Oh, you had a$79 cash advance. The other side of that is I also get charged with a$29 overdraft protection fee on my debit account.

56:28Oh, why? Yeah, I ask myself that often. Yet you do nothing. You ask yourself that and yet you do nothing. You. You're lucky the interest rates range between 16 and 22%. But even still, you're overdrafting every second of your life. Why are you overdrafting, dick? Huh? Dick, why? Because I have too many auto pays, and I apparently don't pay enough attention.

57:04Enough attention

57:10Miscellaneous bullshit alone is$5111.24 cents not paying enough attention f*** you what are you talking about that's honestly better than i thought it would be better that oh no that's the reason why you're overdrafting you f*** you're spending money you do not have it is unacceptable it is disgusting who what is wrong with you i don't get it you're over the limit on there you overdraft protection endlessly fees fees fees fees fees did you stop and buy that no where'd you get that from colton gave it to me it's from the fridge We have monsters. Usually we're a gamer subs company, but I appreciate it.

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58:13You can also get your free samples link below. Type in code Caleb, see what flavors you like, and then order them. Make your coffee at home. No more bullshit spending. Make your energy drinks at home. No more bullshit spending. This is so f***ing stupid. Well, that's part of the bullshit spending this month is we are ourselves a nice new coffee maker. Well, as long as you at least make coffee at home, how much does that cost? All of the... Oh, f***ing. About 300.

58:42Quicksilver, what's going on? That is our credit card together. I see transactions. Our? Our. Is the one with you guys together? Yes. So stupid. Why? Why did we do this? Well, she opened it because she needed to start building credit because she's a new American. I'm on it because there was the occasional time where it's like, honey, I need to do X, Y, or Z. Oh, she is German. That's why she looks a little bit freaky. Okay. No, never mind. She's not. I told you, man. Never mind. She's not a cancel-y person. No. She's just like deep. She's doing her shit. Deep down in her heart, she still has a little bit of love for the Fuhrer.

59:10She's, you know, she's just a bit freaky. She's just a bit freaky. We make a lot of Hitler jokes. Oh, I'm sure. And she throws that in Heil every time she hears him. I've tried to get her to, she won't. In her sleep. She's a sleeper agent. Why are you on it? It was just convenience, you know. What was convenient? For who and what? There were a couple of months where we threw a little too much toward our debts. and got pinched and spent a little too much on some bullshit. And there was a, like, I needed gas type thing, you know, because I drive about 3 ,000 miles a month. Why? So. For the dog shit?

59:49No, no, no, no. So the company that I'm with, right, so I'm trying to be done with the dog shit. Okay. I've lost way too much money, as you're aware. Uh-huh. So the company that I've been with, I've been with them for a little over a year at this point. But when I was coming up on, like, my 11th month, they told me that I'd be stuck at the assistant manager position for years. Okay. And so I went. Why would they say that? Because they were just telling me like, hey, yeah, we're going to need you to prove you're able to do this, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, well, then I'm going to go get another job.

1:00:18So I went and got another job, worked there for four days, and then they're like, hey, you want a store? Okay, so why are you driving? Because the store they gave me is in Idaho. I drive 51 minutes to work every day. And I do sales calls every Tuesday. Oh. Oh. Yeah, so that's why I went and bought my little Mazda. Because my truck gets like 14 miles away. Yo,$2 ,876.82 on this Quicksilver card, which, yes, you do owe because you're on it, asshole. $109 minimum payment. Why are we purchasing on a card that we can't pay off that is accruing interest? Like I said, we just played it a little too close for a couple months.

1:01:03We're above the limit. So she's trying... No, we're not. Oh, no, you're not. I read that by a thought. Okay, you're... Listen, you're still holding a balance on a card that you are not paying off that is accruing in interest, and you're certainly above that 30 % utilization that we look for. So she's trying to build credit. She's f***ing her credit. And you're helping to f*** her credit. No, the debt to income isn't bad. Or the debt to income isn't good. Debt to income is a piece. Yeah. This is still a utilization. But it's a fixable piece. It's not f***ing... This is a utilization. It's not f***ing her credit for...

1:01:31Dick, this is a utilization. Anytime past it being built up Utilization, yes it is, anything over 30 % But once we pay it down It won't be f***ing our credit Once you do, you are f***ing it now Yeah, it's true And we're on the car loan together too Why? Why? Why are you doing this to this Poor German woman I told her that we should get the car separate And she's like, well if we can get it, let's just get it together She doesn't know what she's talking about, she's European

1:02:02I don't know, man. I think the new age Germans are pretty smart. That's why they stay quiet and they don't make too many Hitler jokes outside of the house. Yeah, that's why they shut down all their nuclear facilities and they're digging for coal again. Very smart country. I wasn't aware of that. That's crazy. Yeah, tell her. Maybe that's why she left. 16 years to pay this off. Insane. That's great for her. We got Netflix and Peacock on this. What the f*** are you watching on Peacock? Nothing. Nothing. I think there's a show on there that we watch. A show. You don't even know. I think there's a show.

1:02:36Can't name the show. And he thinks there's a show. It's like$3 a month. No. The Peacock? It's like$10. No, we get super big discounts for doing it on Capital One. Okay. $9. I'm pretty sure there's a rebate on there or something. Well, look at it. It is literally right there. Huh. Huh. Interesting. how numbers work if we just look at them. Oh, so there is a$3 credit, but it's not as cheap as I thought it was. It's$5.72 after the credit. But that's not... I'll put it on a card even that we are f***ing not able to pay off that is accruing interest in destroying our lovely German fan of Screamo, I can tell, girlfriend.

1:03:12She likes everything. She even likes country, which I'm surprised at. The Germans do get very nationalistic, yes. Because German music was very I don't give a f***. You are destroying her. All for the sake of Peacock and Netflix? It's so stupid.

1:03:30In future projects you're planning to do, I'm being told, we got to get new tires, home renovations, a new Xbox, traveling to California. We already got the Xbox. Huh? We already got the Xbox. What is wrong with you? Well, the old one broke. And that's our main home entertainment system. I mean, we don't have like a Chromecast 30 bucks. You c***. You actual c***. You think you need to buy an Xbox? to play your peacock? Are you stupid? What is wrong with you? No, stop. I don't care. You can't afford it. Dude, you live in a literal crack den. You cannot get an Xbox. It's too clean to be a crack den.

1:04:02It might look like it on the outside. Oh, buddy. Oh, big guy. Come on. Come on. Come on. It might look a little bit like it on the outside, but it's too clean on the inside to be a crack den. Okay. I promise you. FaceTime the German right now. No. Oh, why? Because she won't do that. She won't show me around the house? No. Yeah. I'm sure the crackdown's very clean. We do have 12 animals. Yeah, that you chose to have. So I don't give a f***. 500 hours of interest this year so far. 28.24 % interest, right? Synchrony! For why? Furniture row! Yeah. How to get furniture for our pets to destroy? No, they are not allowed in the bedroom for obvious reasons.

1:04:44I don't know. My dogs are and they're fine. Yeah, my dogs eat drywall. Why are you a bad trainer? Why are you spending$12 ,000 on a dog and you can't train shit? I have trained as much as I can, but I have a dog who will literally push her face up against the wall. Is it the pit bull? No, it's one of the Frenchies. Just one of them, though. Train. Get a trainer. Dick. No shit. And you have 12 animals. Can you really focus on them individually properly? Absolutely. No. You have them eating drywall, so your answer is no. They don't anymore because I put up, like, sheeting. That's not training. That is you preventing them from getting to the drywall.

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1:07:07But we got a$2 ,000 mattress. Yes, which you didn't need. So that we could last it for 10 years. They're not a sponsor, but Nectar. You could have got a$1 ,000 Nectar mattress and you would have been perfectly, totally fine. Trust me, I had it and I was good. And I also, the mattress I had before that made a massive dent. Like, what the f***? This is insane. No, you don't need this. Why do you owe$2 ,496? Because we're still paying it off. It's in the deferred and we're putting minimums for the deferred. We're going to make it. Less than a year, you have to. Or else that deferred. We're putting like$200 a month toward it.

1:07:41And then there's going to be like a$300 balloon payment at the end. But, I mean, that's a pretty small balloon. Oh, you got to pay this off in just about 10 more payments. 2 ,496 hours, 63 cents divided by 10. Yeah, this needs to be a$250 minimum payment. I think we're doing$200 or$220. And then we're going to have, you know, a$400 or$500 balloon payment. We'll see, guy. We'll see. Then we have an Amazon card. Yeah. With a lot of purchases. Eight years to pay off. What's going on? Well, it started with a couple of, like, sort of house necessities, and then, you know, it was just too easy to spend on.

1:08:19Yeah, like, we bought a case for our watches because we got matching. What do you think that house needs is a bulldozer? I would love to honestly rebuild on that property. It's a sweet little property. It's horrible. I'm sorry. I know. I'm being mean. But it's horrible. It is horrible. Amazon, Amazon. I don't think it's that bad. Dude, it is bad. Amazon, Amazon. Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon! Oh, you're looking on the Amazon card, so fucking yeah. Why don't you pull up the Amazon app, you cunt?

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1:10:33Trash stuff. Commander, 100 plus card. So the trash bin and the armor What is this? They're card sleeves in a card box 100 place textured TC They're card sleeves Card sleeves? Why? For Magic the Gathering Oh die Oh die No what are you doing Magic the Gathering You already have too much happening Fuck you That is not an option You don't have the money for a hobby like that You really don't. Just how much are you spending on Magic the Gathering? I haven't spent much on it in a long time. Typically, come on. You're buying shit right there. So the reason, okay, so we had a cat die, a foster, that we were taking care of.

1:11:20He went through a surgery that, like, opened up his rib cage because it wasn't growing properly, and I became really attached to him, and I broke down one day, and I was like, f*** it, I'm going to do something that I enjoy. So I bought myself a new deck, bought sleeves, bought a box for it, but aside from that, I haven't bought Magic in, like, eight or ten months. How much did you used to spend eight or ten months ago? Sporadically, it'd be like$150 on a box every couple of weeks. Insane. And now that deck that I put together cost about$600. Insane, dude. That's insane. It's insane. $45 minimum fee payment,$899.63 on this discount tire thing.

1:11:55So you had to get new tires? Yeah. But you're getting new tires again. And you haven't even paid off your last new tires. I bought tires for the truck and then they - Oh no, these are deferred interest as well. Yeah. Oh, no, they're doing about four months. Yeah. But we're making the payments. We're going to have a balloon payment of like$200,$250 at the end. How are you going to afford all these balloon payments? Because you keep saying it like it's nothing. You spend more than you make. You are f***ing. It's because we're doing. I can't hear this anymore. No, no, no, no, no. And also, you are not even close to making enough.

1:12:23You made about$100 payment instead of the$45, but you need to make a payment of$245 a month to pay it off. Your balloon payment is going to be much higher than you're talking about. Yes, yes, yes. I did the math. I can do numbers. Numbers are in front of me. I just typed it in. I typed in the balance. How many months? I must have done my math incorrectly. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. But for most of them, we're pretty close. Well, I don't know. I don't think so. We'll see. You're about to have the deferred interest hit like crazy because you did the math wrong if you didn't come on here. You have four more payments you're able to make, and then it's done, and that is required of two.

1:13:00Listen, it's the balance is$900. If there's four payments left, what does it break down to? $225! I don't think the balance is$900 anymore, though. Yes, it is. Where's the balance on this? Death. The previous page, you f***ing... Right here. New balance. $899. $63. Die, die, die, die. Best Buy. What? Best Buy? Sorry, Home Depot. Okay. Okay, Home Depot was, I did a shower reno. It's in that house? Yeah. Oh! You put money into that house? Washer and dryer. Washer and dryer is okay, but oh! I would get you to use another, but you're renovating this house? Yeah, the shower was falling apart. I don't know what the hell they used to caulk it.

1:13:54I don't know. Have you seen the house? Yeah, I live in it. Every day. $801.92, minimum fee payment,$29, five years to pay this off. Okay, let's see. We're not doing minimums on that, though. Dude, you say that for every single card, and it's a little more, just slightly more, which also, by the way, makes no sense. If the strategy is to take care of deferred interest payments before they hit, why are we putting things on? Because this, is this deferred? The Home Depot? Yeah. Oh. It's making me sink.

1:14:27okay$801.92 divided by you need to do this in six payments okay it needs to be $134 a month why are you you're deferring interest more than almost anyone I know yeah it's because I was running real tight with my previous income and now that I'm at a point where I'm making enough I'm pushing to get it all paid before the deferred hits but there were certain things like I was genuinely uncomfortable getting into that shower. There was no way that I was going to shower in that shower. It's the house, dude. Well, I own it. There's not too much I can do about the location. Barely. So I got to make sure.

1:15:05You own it with an equity position of like$100, and that's you being lucky. And then you got a Lowe's card as well, also for the renovation? A little bit here and there. And you renovated it yourself? The shower? Yeah. I have a buddy who's a drywaller, and he helped me. So it's also done by, ah, shit, that's not good. A really good drywaller. Come on. I'm not coming on nothing, man. He's a great drywaller. Lowe's card,$542.80, minimum payment, 30. So the current owed is for AC units. Oh, dude, this house said nothing. You put money into this house, and you're just not going to pay it. Those are window units.

1:15:40Oh, great, great. I mean, the only thing that I could do to actually install AC in that house would be a mini split, and that is obviously out of my budget right now. This is also deferred, isn't it? Yep. Dude. When does the deferred end? I think we have had six months on it, and we bought those. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was a year. The deferred must be done. No. No, I don't think so. That's not giving me a... You want me to look on my phone? Dang. Because it will tell me. Yeah. I got it. I found it. You found it? Okay. So of the$542.80, you have eight payments to pay that off. So instead of 30, which you were,$68 is what you need to pay.

1:16:28Okay. F***'s sake. We still have more debt. This is insane. PayPal credit. What? Magic. That is the deck that I just built. No. Magic the Gathering PayPal credit debt. On deferred. Dude. Everything's deferred. That's funny. I mean, your reaction is funny. My finances make me cry inside. My reaction is that because it's absolutely beyond f***. Yeah, it is beyond f***. It's stupid. $30 minimum payment on it. Balance,$515. Minimum payment wasn't even made. Why? Okay. No interest didn't pay in full until... Six months, I believe. Not six months from now. Four. Yeah. So,$515. and 29 cents divided by four.

1:17:14So you have to make minimum payments of$129. Oh my gosh, dude. These minimum payments that you are required to make so these do not just get put to deferred interest are increasing your monthly budget insanely, insanely. It's disgusting. Well, I mean, my numbers were a little bit off from what you're looking at, but I do have increased payments for my deferreds in that 4680 that I was talking about. We'll see at the end because your math still didn't make sense to me. But Ross,$90? No, it's a brand new one. We needed some pants and it was a 25 % off. And so I threw it on the Ross card and I'm just going to pay that off next month.

1:17:55And this is$90? Yeah. Why even do that? Why are you not? Because it was 25 % off. But look how you balloon everything. Look at the road you go down every time. Can I buy at Ross beside clothes and shitty snacks? I don't know. I don't know. maybe the girlfriend wants something. Like, I don't know. Every time you do something, you f*** it. So, like, there's not a single thing here you have done right. Including doing the math correctly for your deferred interest stuff. Yeah. Like, it's f***, man. This breeding thing, f***ing a married woman. It's just like everything's wrong. It's all f***ing.

1:18:34Fraud repayment plan? Yeah, so my mom had like a toe-behind smoker that she tried to sell. And she got sent a check. She cashed it. And they were like, okay, we're going to come pick it up. And that was pretty much all that happened. And then the bank called her and was like, hey, so that check was fraudulent. And she had already spent it. So they put her on a repayment plan with 0%. Her, her, her. With 0 % interest. and I was kind of zooming through and I didn't really realize what I was signing up for, but I got put on it. How? How did that even happen? She was on the phone with them and they were like, hey, is this okay?

1:19:12Because I was like, yeah, we share, we're on each other's accounts. And I was like, I'm not really worried about it. And then I ended up on the loan. I wasn't really aware of it. What? Yeah. And I didn't even know that that was - Just get it with your credit. Are you paying it or her? Well, so I am paying it now because I'm on her phone plan and she is paying for my phones. I am paying for the - What's your minimum monthly? 113, but I do 150. Does interest ever hit? No. Don't. Why pay extra? When you have deferred things that are about to come, why pay a couple dollars extra? This makes no sense.

1:19:44There is not a single debt repayment strategy in the history of all financial education that is put a little more towards things instead of focusing all on one. So this one specifically is because she pays my phones and she wants me to pay 150 rather than paying 150 for the phones. If I paid 113 on that, I would have to pay her the difference for the phones. So it's just one of those things that like. Oh, so stupid. Yeah. So stupid. That one is very unfortunate. And I think that one is my credit because people see fraud repayment plan. That's the car. That's one of the cars. 8 % Mazda. Yeah. What's the balance that it shows on there?

1:20:20$32 ,297. I canceled my protection plan, my seven-year warranty thing because it was scammy. and it extended my loan by X amount of years. So I'm actually at$26 ,000. Okay, so$26 ,000. Does that affect your minimum monthly payment? No, I am still at the minimum monthly. It just takes my loan. And what is your minimum? $502 ,000 and some change. You have seven cars? Yeah. Dude, I'm losing it. I'm losing it with you. Three of me. Like you can talk some things correctly, but then your life is just an absolute mess. You do nothing correct. You're able to, You're in the world where you're able to speak correctly, but you don't do anything.

1:21:01Three of them even run. Okay. What do you think this car's worth? I think that it blue books for around, or I use NADA usually. I think it's around 22 and a half. $502 minimum payment. Why do we have so many cars, dude? So I have a pension for pain, so I have two old Jaguars. And then I bought a... Why? though? Well, because I had one when I was a kid and I sold it. So why'd you get two? Well, I bought the one because I was like yes, this thing is super clean. I can get it for a good price. I'm going to buy it and I'm going to work on it. And then my girlfriend was like, well, I want one. Dude, you guys are so weird.

1:21:41But I bought the second one for $50.

1:21:47Yeah, it was a theft recovery. Does it run? It will run if somebody put a little work into it. Who's that somebody? Not me. That's the only one that I want to sell. Hers? Yeah, because she doesn't want it. So all of yours are good. No, she doesn't want it. Sell the other ones. She looked at it. Sell the other ones. I'm not selling the other Jag. Because it's too pretty. It's too perfect. It is my dream car. No, you have other cars other than the Jaguar. Sell the other ones. So the Cadillacs are a special. Oh, my. What is wrong with you? I like turning wrench, man.

1:22:18Okay, let's see. We have a Blazer worth$2 ,500. That I inherited. Chevy Avalanche worth$9 ,254. So that one I bought sight unseen for$6 ,000. She told me she had a truck for sale with 66 ,000 miles. What's the state of that car? It's beautiful. Who drives it? Me occasionally. Sell them. No, I need to be able to tow shit. Why? Because I have a bunch of project cars that need to move. You do not need to tow shit, and you're giving up your project hobbies to pay off your debt and clean up your life, and then you can get into hobbies. F*** your hobbies. I don't give a f***. Your hobbies are expensive.

1:22:59You can get rid of them now. You can start paying off debt. I'm not getting rid of the Jaguar. Then what? I didn't say the Jaguar. And I don't really want to get rid of the Cadillacs either. I don't care. The Jaguar. I'm giving you that as a compromise. Do you ever see me compromise on this show? Not very often. Good. I'm letting you keep the Jaguar. Sell the other cars. Liquidate everything else other than the Jaguar in your car, and how much could you get? I think one, two, three.

1:23:31Optimistically, if I were to wait on the truck. How much? I could probably pull like$19 ,000. Good. Do it. There's no reason not to. Do it. Do it. You can get into the hobbies again. Cars will always exist, and cars are forever. You're not getting rid of the Jaguar. The truck is one of$1 ,150. Huh? it's one of 1150 over four years okay then there's 1150 I don't give a it means nothing you have debt you are one of one you take care of your life buddy you can't have this this is a shortcut that I don't want to abuse it in a way that you don't change your behavior but just use this opportunity use it there's no reason not to I won't ever see that truck again that is that's a lie that's a lie there are out there.

1:24:19There are less than 1 ,200. Exactly. And it's from 2002 to 2006. They're not exactly fucking running around. You can spend your hobby searching for it when you can financially afford it. Right now, it gets you out of a death spiral. Death spiral. Your math that you gave me didn't make sense in realizing your girlfriend, who's not even in the fault of this. It makes no sense. It's time to take care of your shit. It's time to grow up for the literal first time in your entire life. And sometimes that requires sacrifices. This is a sacrifice. You are taking a sacrifice. Also, it's a truck. Who gives a fuck?

1:24:49It doesn't matter. It doesn't. It doesn't matter when it comes to your girlfriend, when the animals, when it comes to your life. It does not matter. You're being a selfish prick. Stop. This is a sacrifice. You're willing to sacrifice your girlfriend's income to bail you out instead of you actually taking care of some shit and sacrificing some things you like. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. It would pay off the first four or five cards we talked about today. Like that. Stop being a selfish prick, asshole. You went and got some energy drinks, energy drinks. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit for the car.

1:25:33Bullshit. I don't know what Selkirk Aces is. That is just the ace near my work. Ace? Ace Hardware. Oh, so probably bullshit. Bullshit. Uh, bullshit, dominoes So a lot of the ace charges were actually cashbacks You go to O 'Reilly every 30 seconds Yeah Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit Energy drinks, bullshit Microsoft Ultimate, f*** you, vapor What is wrong with you? You do not do one thing correctly in life Bullshit, Little Caesars Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit Card payment, bullshit No, no, ATM would draw$480 No one knows where that went. That, I believe, was moved to another card for Bill.

1:26:19$27 in this. Went down substantially. So savings, nope. And this is bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. It's just fucking stupid. Bullshit. ATM went to raw. I don't know. Are you going to strip club every five seconds? No, a lot of that is because I have my paycheck split into four different cards. So that it's... BS, BS, BS. Round table pizza. BS, BS. You're stopping in and getting BS every second of your life. BS. BS, BS. Nothing in savings. Oh, this is so. And another account. What's in here? Okay. That's pretty much just for the car. The car and the fraud. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

1:26:59It's all. Oh, good. Our investment is$177. So I sold that and put it toward debt. Yeah, sure. Drop in the bucket. $20 ,000. Sell the car. keep your jag I'm okay with it take that I never give people that opportunity take it or just you know what I've been through this I've gotten people through the sacrifices if you don't want to do it don't do it and you can and you can live your sad miserable life pretty happy generally speaking no the finances no you're coping coping I am tired of a lot of my money going toward interest you can get this shit done but you have to take sacrifices Income,$4 ,158.

1:27:44Okay, the mortgage is$1 ,933.32. Second time someone's chosen dogs over paying their mortgage, by the way, but whatever. Let's get the rest of your debt payments.

1:27:56And I'm doing this, what's minimum required to pay off the deferreds in time? Because we don't want to f*** ourselves, but you have so many to defer that this is going to add to a substantial number. Yeah, it's going to be a rough couple of months. Okay, minimum payments. It's essentially equal to your mortgage, which is crazy. $1 ,950. Gas, electric, utilities, all that combined. How much? We budget for$300, but it's usually around$250,$275. In the winter, it's about$300. Okay, I'm saying$300. Phone built. Switch to helium once you have to take care of your own phone. If T-Mobile's good in your area.

1:28:28So we need to pay off our phones before we can switch. And I also get you a course career certification as well. Keep adding to your resume. Keep getting those raises and transfer to a local store, hopefully. Yeah, working on it. Gas, a fruit from Drive Drive. I'd say$300 a month. Car insurance is? $302,$304, somewhere. How do groceries work in this house with you and your girlfriend? So we try really hard to stay around$20 a month. It's one of those things. What? Sorry,$20 a day,$600 a month. Okay, you can contribute$300 to the pile. TP fund, anything else you need to survive,$100. Medical, health care, other co-pays, monthly basis.

1:29:04So when I left my work. I don't care. Are there monthly co-pays? There will be. We're in open enrollment right now. I don't know. I literally opened today. I'll budget 50 bucks towards it. Subscriptions, I'll try 30. Let's see what happens. What are we doing? How much is pet food? Say 120 bucks every two weeks. We get a lot of free stuff because she's - Now, how are we doing pet insurance? I don't have pet insurance. And I don't know if we could possibly budget this. For the 12, I mean, we're talking - The nice thing is a lot of that is - sort of free because she works at the rescue. Big guy. You have that debt.

1:29:45Clearly it's not. Yeah, well, the breeding stuff is different. I don't even think we could afford it anyway, which makes it irresponsible for you to be a pet owner, if we're being honest. Because if we add up the two things, the minimum fee payments, you're already done. You're already f***ed. So I don't know how you do any of this. So how much does your girlfriend contribute to the debt payments? I mean, she contributes the gap, basically. So I, for the most part, take care of all the payments. She takes care of food. $1 ,915 plus$1 ,933 and 30, what was that? 32 cents plus$300 plus$300 plus three or two plus 300 plus 240 plus 100 plus 50 plus 30.

1:30:22Okay. Wow. Well, your gap just to break even is literally needing$1 ,312 and 32 cents. So she provides that plus takes care of her portion of the groceries and her bills. because that's literally the gap. So the credit card that we have together is pretty much her only bill. Good. Okay. Okay. Well, so she's willing to provide$1 ,312.32 just to break even, not even make progress because that break even, remember, takes about 45 years. So once all the deferreds are gone, though, which will all happen in the next year, then it will be a much better situation. Yes, you will snowball. You will snowball.

1:31:01Yeah. At that point, once that's done, I mean, it's still probably like a five-year process. six year process but what would i would do instead yes dude what i would do instead 19 000 take it that pays off um well let's see let's see 240 okay so we have total let's budget 15 000 no no let's okay fine yeah fine just because i want to air on the i want to air on the side of caution to get that 19 000 on the side of choosing not to sell i would have to wait on the truck for like a year. I mean, that's a rare buyer. Sell it. Sell it. That's why I'm saying 15 is what we should aim for. Dude, literally your bad debt.

1:31:40Outside of your car and mortgage is 21 ,540. You can wipe it out and then we're done. You're not breaking even anymore. Okay, f*** off. This is as clear as day. This is the easiest thing. You can take care of this tomorrow. So I'm f***ing done. Listen, I'll at least help this guy out by, we are going to call his long last friend in the post show and we are going to, we're going to, no, no, we're going to do it right. We're not going to do it in a Gooney way. We're going to do it in a rekindling. I want to be actually serious about it. We're going to do it very real. So we'll do that in the post show.

1:32:06Join Hammer Elite and watch that. Let's get the Hammer financial score though. Spending in a budget. You overspend, 0 out of 10. Debt, no collections, but all this together is horrendous. It's about a 1 out of 10. Emergency fund, agency savings, 0 out of 10. Retirement, there was nothing 0 out of 10. Real estate, you don't have an equity position. Interest rate isn't the best, but I mean, it's also not the worst. The house itself is shit. It's going to be hard to sell a two bed one bath. It's not great. I'm going to say three out of ten on the house score. Closet's not really going to help build that up much.

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