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Podcast Episode Notes: $67,000 Of K-Pop Debt | Financial Audit
Episode Overview The episode features a guest named Presley, a 27-year-old retail manager from Houston, Texas, discussing her financial situation, which involves a significant amount of debt amounting to $67,000, primarily stemming from lavish spending habits, K-Pop merchandise, and lifestyle choices.
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Key Concepts and Discussions
Guest Background
- Name: Presley
- Age: 27
- Occupation: Retail manager with an annual income of $67,000.
- Living Situation: Currently living independently but considering moving back in with parents due to financial issues.
Spending Habits
- Presley admits to enjoying shopping and making frequent purchases, especially in a mall setting where she works.
- Micro Purchases: Discusses impulsive spending on everyday items like shampoo and snacks.
- K-Pop Culture:
- Has accumulated a large collection of K-Pop merchandise estimated at $10,000.
- Spent significant amounts on concerts and related expenses.
Financial Situation
- Debt Breakdown:
- Total debt is around $67,000.
- Includes credit card debt, student loans, and a car loan.
- Monthly expenses exceed income by approximately $215.
- Spending Analysis:
- Average monthly expenses estimated between $5,000 and $6,000, despite earning around $4,300 net per month.
- High spending on dining out and convenience items (e.g., DoorDash).
Key Financial Issues
- Behavioral Patterns:
- Despite previous attempts to consolidate debt, Presley continues to accrue more.
- No long-term change in spending behavior, leading to repetitive cycles of debt.
- Emotional spending linked to the acquisition of K-Pop merchandise.
Solutions Proposed
- Immediate Actions:
- Sell non-essential assets, particularly K-Pop merchandise, to alleviate debt.
- Consider moving back with parents to save money.
- Sell her current high-debt car and downgrade to a more affordable vehicle.
- Long-Term Strategy:
- Focus on budgeting and financial education to change spending behavior.
- Aim for debt repayment within three to four years by adjusting lifestyle and spending habits.
Personal Insights
- Emotional connection to spending and its impact on financial health.
- Discussion on mental health and anxiety related to finances, leading to poor spending decisions.
Final Thoughts
- Acknowledgment of the need for significant lifestyle changes to regain financial stability.
- Emphasis on using budgeting tools and resources like the DollarWise app to better manage finances.
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Key Takeaways
- Spending vs. Income: Living beyond means leads to mounting debt, emphasizing the need for budget management.
- Financial Education: Understanding the implications of credit usage and debt accumulation is crucial for long-term financial health.
- Prioritization: Focus on essentials and reducing impulsive spending can help regain control over finances.
- Community Support: Moving back in with family can provide temporary relief and support while addressing financial issues.
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Resources Mentioned
- DollarWise Budgeting App: Suggested for better budgeting and financial management.
- JG Wentworth: Mentioned as a potential resource for debt consolidation, though with critical discussion on its effectiveness.
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This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of overspending and the importance of financial literacy.
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Transcript
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1:00us out on YouTube. You have$10 ,000 of BTS merch in your apartment right now? That's what I'm estimating. Oh, f***s sake, dude. I had about$60 ,000 in it. No, you did not. $60 ,000 would have been$1 million. Sign up for the new and improved DollarWise budgeting app. Take the free trial and if you like it, sign up for the annual version to save a ton of money and get my budget-friendly cookbook signed by me and mailed directly to you. And for a limited time only, If you want to bundle all of my educational programs together with the budget app, join DollarWise Central and save 80%. Take the trial and learn more at DollarWise.com.
1:40My name is Presley. I'm 27 years old from Houston, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. Well, thanks for coming over to Austin. What do you do in Houston for a living? I work at a large retail chain in the mall, and I am one of the managers there. A manager. Okay, very good. 27, manager of retail. Okay. That's what you want to do. Retail, not bad. There are career paths. I want to make clear that I'm not talking down on retail by any means. Just more when people think about what they want to do. You know, here, like retail. Is this what we're trying to do? I have to ask out of the gate. Because 27, right?
2:19Yes. Okay. So it's actually really funny. I originally, when I was younger, wanted to go into baking. And so I actually had my own business and I was baking. You had your own business. I had my own business. When did you have your own business? 17, 18 years old. How long did that business last? Are we counting that or is it a lemonade stand? Lemonade stand kind of. Oh, then that's not. So, but I, it was really funny to me because I swore I would never get into retail, but I needed to get a job. I needed to start, you know, being an adult at 18 years old. And what do you make in this retail position?
2:57In my current one, I make$67 ,000. $67 ,000 what? $67 ,000. That's great. See? Wait, what? $67 ,000 a year? A year, yeah. Good. Look at this, guys. We can do retail. You can make a living. Manager, so like general manager? Yeah, so we have in my store, we have sales managers, and then you have like the merchandising operations managers. I'm one of the sales managers. and then so the bring home on that because I know you'll probably end up asking that is about$4 ,300 a month good how do you live in Houston with that? I'm okay not good enough because I'm here right? clearly what's going on? I like to spend I was thinking about it on the way here I was like why do I spend so much?
3:52Well, why do you spend so much? I like to get things. And then I also do kind of like, you know, in gaming when you have like the micro purchases. I haven't gamed in a while. I haven't gamed in a while. That's not what I'm freaking out about. I'm freaking out about the micro purchases. What? So like even on the way here, I was like. You micro purchased gas? No. Is that possible? I forgot. Well, I didn't forget. I ended up getting a migraine on the way. So I stopped at a gas station and got some Excedrin this morning. Are you okay? Yes. Well, migraines are horrible. Okay. I'm glad you feel okay.
4:28Excedrin is my best friend. Okay. But that's not bad. Why would I criticize that? Well, no, you wouldn't criticize that. But like, I will. Hey guys, if you're sick, you die. What? No, no. So like, um, I couldn't even tell you what I bought in the last week kind of thing. How often are you stopping places and just swiping? Um, probably too much. Like, again, I work in the mall. And so like every day, self reflect a little at least once or twice a day. Once or twice a day. Yeah, that's relentless. That's insane. I it's just like, you know, I forget like, um, or it's not so much forget. It's just like those little things like the other day.
5:13Yes, it's a need. But I have plenty of conditioner at home. Right. But I also ran out of shampoo. But I'm one of those people that I, for some reason, believe that your shampoo should match your conditioner. So when I went to Walmart to pick up shampoo, I couldn't get the one that I usually use because my curly hair. So I went with the main entail. So it could be a little bit cheaper. But I got the shampoo and conditioner, even though I have plenty of conditioner of my normal conditioner. How much do you spend on that? I mean, main entail is about$8 total. Okay, so I guess you applied for me to tell you to stop spending?
5:54Well, more so like stop spending, figure out my debt so I could pay it off. Because like I actually applied for y 'all and JG Wentworth on the same night. JG Wentworth. I don't know exactly how it works. And so when I applied, I was just like, I would just want them to call me back so I can figure out what their steps are. so I could figure out if it was a solution for me or not. Because I'm kind of habitual. I do have some loans to pay off the credit card debt. And then I racked back up the credit cards. And so I was like, Well, so you would do that again? I'm confused. Why would you want to do that again?
6:32The goal is to get them paid off. The goal, but come on, you didn't fix. Did you fix? No. Exactly. Like you didn't change your behavior. If you changed your behavior, you probably wouldn't be on the show. So why would you try to take the same shortcut that you already took? Listen, we know what comes in. What did you spend last month? What did you spend? I don't actually know. Of course not, but payroll was$4 ,216. You also had$200 a sale, so it's about that$4 ,300 that you suggested. Good. Come on. What was your outflow? We know you're in flow. What was your outflow? Probably$5 ,000 to$6 ,000.
7:07Okay, well, that's insane. Why would you apply for a consolidation when you're spending$1 ,000 to$2 ,000 more than you make? because that just means you're you'll have double the debt again yeah that that's what i'm like i'm trying to figure out because it's like i have moments that i was good with my uh good with my spending good with paying everything down didn't make all the best decisions in order to pay it down um but you know i paid it down i was good and then we're good but again if you spent a thousand to two thousand hours more last month than you bring in why is that a time to consolidate your debt because you'll just build it back up again.
7:43Just trying to figure out what to do. And that's where I was like, oh, let me apply to this. And then, you know, I'd seen some of your shows and I was like, let me apply to this and just see what happens. And then I happened to get the call. Why haven't you tried to use the budget? I was at a point that I finally got back down to like every statement I was paying off my credit cards. Well, by the way, I will say what actually went out was$7 ,115.14. Okay. That, yeah, I did not expect it to be that high. Almost double. What I bring home. Hold on. Yeah, almost double. What's the f***? Yeah. For why?
8:21For what intent? If you said you were better off, when were you better off? Because I'm not seeing any indication of better off. That sounds like you're going in a horrible place. Right before I moved out is when I was better. Did you move out? Last October. From FAM? Yes. Okay. Good. Yes. I was like, okay. How did you allow that to go completely off the cliff? Isn't that the whole point of getting independence is to be independently well off? Exactly. And so I was good. And then I got my puppy because I could not live alone at that point. I was like, I need something to come home to. Maybe you could have afforded a puppy, but why is that the issue?
9:01So then, you know, getting back into the retail position, going into Christmas, I would come home really late. And in the apartment, my fire alarm goes off like every time I cook. And so I... This has to do with the dog. Well, so I always want to come home like immediately to go back to my dog, right? Yes. And so no matter what, like she just happens to be there. But I would end up door dashing at night. You're using you getting a dog as an excuse to door dash after your shift. Well, no, no, no. This is a cope. Out of all the copes I've heard, that's a mega cope. Well, the whole point, I try to get home.
9:44And then I would, no matter what, I would, I like, I have a whole thing of burger patties in my freezer, right? That I could just like throw on the stove. That doesn't sound very healthy, but okay, continue. you? No. But if I if I end up cooking it on the stove, my again, my fire alarm ends up going off in the oven, which you can do. Well, again, my fire alarm still goes off. I don't know why. I've already tried to get the apartment to fix it. Take the battery out while you cook. That's one of those things like one of those things that took five seconds to think. Yes. Well, I'm kind of weird in that aspect of I didn't know you're a ginger.
10:25I didn't know. Like, if you took out the battery or not, if it would like somehow signal to the apartment complex that you took out a battery. I don't know how those things work. You think it's... I don't know. You think your apartment complex is in Germany or the Soviet Union that's going to storm in? It's my first apartment. So I didn't know if it could be like a potential that they're like, Did you look it up or ask anyone? Like, I don't really know. No, I didn't. Okay. That is such a cope to get DoorDash constantly. You're saying all this debt is DoorDash? Not all of it. You got a dog, which benefited in no way to the story.
10:59And then you door dashed because apparently, you know, you got a dog. So I have the door dash. Interesting. And that's why we're in debt. This isn't this is not making sense to me. When I had my last job, I had a great 401k there. And I. What was the job? Let's get some baseline. Another retail job. I was a manager. 401k. Was this the concerning word? Yeah, I had about 60 ,000 in it. Oh, no, you did not at your age? You were 26? Wait, when was your last job? I never not had a job. Once I got a job. When was this job? A year ago. So you were 26? Yeah, I was 26. And you had 60 ,000? Yes, that was good, right?
11:43Better than me at 26? I was negative at 26. I, uh... No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Quiet. Quiet now. Quiet now. What are you laughing about? Oh, yeah. Huh? That's just, I sometimes laugh at myself. Sometimes that's the only way to get through. Dude, that's 39 years until 65. Do compound of 8%, which is the entire average yearly return of the entire U.S. stock market since the beginning of it to right now today. $60 ,000 would have been$1 million, which is what you lost. $500 ,000 in today's money after inflation. But you lost$500 in today's money or$1 million. $1 million is gone. Yeah. Wait, did you take it?
12:37Wait, what did you do with it? Maybe you didn't take it out. Sorry, I'm jumping the gun on this. No, I did take it out. All of it? Yeah. For what? And where is it? Where is it to show? Paid off my loans at the time. Of which we racked all the way back up, which you're then going and applying for consolidation today. What are we doing? No, what are we doing? No, so like I paid everything off and then I had put, and I was, again, smart for a moment because what I did take out.
13:11Hi, Joker. I made sure to put into a CD everything that I knew would be taxed. So I didn't like go into debt from being taxed or anything. I put that in a CD so I couldn't even touch it because I do know some of my spending habits. Didn't touch that until, you know, tax time rolled around last year or earlier this year. Paid off the taxes from it because that was like$6 ,000 in taxes for taking it out. And then, yeah, the rest of it went to paying things down and then getting... I'd already saved up some other money as well for moving because I had already planned on it. But then, of course, I bought furniture but paid off the furniture immediately afterwards with that money.
14:08That's f***ing crazy. A million dollars gone for that. Do you not realize? I don't think I always knew what, or knew how the 401s worked. and I You have 401s dude it's just investing it's not about the 401k yes you had or because it's tax advantage you had early withdrawal fees and you know you're taxed at your income but even still it's the couch the couch and what else hmm Lindsay says two rugs how much did you spend on all that I really want to say it was like 21 thousand dollars on a couch and two rugs 2100 no I'm a little crazy but not that crazy Lindsay's correcting your math She is 7 ,000.
14:51It was 7 ,000 total. 7 ,000. From everything she collected from you? You still live alone independently? Yeah. Can you? Are you capable of this? Probably not at this point. I do, my lease ends in December and I am probably moving back home with my parents for a little while. Will you be 28 at the time? Yes. You'll be 28 moving back home? Yup. I don't know. This is not what we want in adulthood. No, it's not. Listen, when life gets rough, it is okay to have a support system and not advocating against that. But the fact is, it's all because of your behavior. It's not like life didn't come and hit you.
15:27Yeah, no. You got a dog. I do get that. And had a fire alarm, which means we must go door dash and get ourselves into debt and pull out and lose a million dollars. A million dollars down the drain. Potential, because I do feel like 401s fluctuate. But I am starting to... 401s fluctuate? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If it's the overall stock market, yes, you'd go up 30 % one year, down 20 % another year. It averages 8%. So we did the average. This is what the stock market has done. On average, all up years, down years combined since it was literally created to now is 8%. S &P 500 is closer to like 12%.
16:06I was conservative and said 8%. You probably lost about$1.5 million, you know? Yeah, that's a lot to lose. I am going back into my 401 now. but not as much as I could get matched with my company. Well, I know you're getting back in. It's just talking about what you lost, all for the sake of a couch rug and consolidation of what you brought all the way back up again. Yeah. How much did you, okay, so we're sure, we're door-dashing, we're going crazy, all this good stuff. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. How much did you spend last month on going out to eat food? Food, not groceries, not groceries, bullshit food.
16:40How much? I don't remember. So I'm talking self-reflection, what you think. I know you don't know the number. You don't budget. You don't do any of that. Probably. What do you think? Probably three to five hundred. Dude, it's seven hundred. Seven. Seven hundred. What is your debt situation? How much debt do you have? Total debt. Including like the car and the student loans. Yeah, which is debt? Sixty thousand. It is almost 70. Dude, you don't know your numbers. You have almost$70 ,000.
17:12Almost 70 ,000 hours. Almost 70 ,000 hours. 1 % of that every single month is spent going out. 1%. 1 % of 7, which is like... That could accelerate you immensely. Immensely that could accelerate you. I'm going to be really honest. What do you mean by accelerate? Hold on. Also, I think I'm a little... That's 10%, isn't it? No, 7 ,000 is 1%. Oh my... I had to think about that too because I was like 7 ,000? Yeah. Hold on. What are you doing? I just, like I said, I, you know, and I'm working in the mall. There's a whole food court. And, like, I think about making my food at home when, you know. I'm glad we think about it.
17:54When it's daytime and I'm not annoying my neighbors. What time do you go to bed? Depends on when I work. Knowing your neighbors? Well, because the fire alarm. Unplug it! Report it. Report it to the people. I did report it. And they said they came and desensitized it or whatever. Report it again. Report it again. Okay. It kept going. So sometimes I'm like, oh, I'll bake during the day and then just reheat it in the microwave because the microwave doesn't make it go off. And then I, you know, get up too late or something. Again, like being in retail, sometimes I don't get off until 11 p.m. And then other days, you know, I get off at 530.
18:35It takes about an hour. Meal prep is microwaving, dude. It's microwaving. That's all it is. That's all it is. Listen, you had$50 ,000. You had like a$50 ,000 net worth a year ago. Incredible. Nah, maybe it was like$25 ,000 because you used some of it to pay off debt. Now you're negative$70 ,000. That's your net worth. You went from positive net worth at an age when almost no one, median, average, whatever you want to use, almost no one is positive net worth. You were well ahead of everyone. Well ahead. you were going to live an upper middle class lifestyle at retirement, upper middle class, and you f***ed it.
19:13And you have nothing to show for it. A little bit in student loans, other than that, there's nothing. A car where you probably have negative equity, gone. I think it is negative equity because I got all the things when I got the car. Lindsay said when you pulled it out, you also set money aside for a trip. Yeah. For a trip from her 401k, penalties, taxes. For a trip. What trip? That was one of my, let's see. That happened last year. So yeah, that was one of my concerts. Oh, she just typed a note that's going to make me kill myself. Please continue. It was a K-pop concert. Good. Good. Wonderful.
19:51And then she had about 5 ,000 hours left from the 50. Good. What did she use it for? Oh, an emergency fund. And that immediately went to Christmas presents. Because I would buy the things. And then like I said, I was paying off the statement balances. and the statement balance is added up to be the 5 ,000. And I just - A$5 ,000 Christmas? Well, it wasn't just Christmas. $1.5 million for a$5 ,000 Christmas, by the way. Yeah. I'm dead. You know, I got my parents some nicer things and then I got my friend - Hold on. Hold on. I think I'm getting just - I think I'm just getting - I think I'm just getting - What did you do two months ago?
20:31Because I don't know. Tell me you did something two months ago. I went to another concert. Okay. No, she's saying that's not what you... Wait, hold on.
20:44Look, see, I forget things. What did I do two months ago? You sold old stocks you owned with the previous company. Again? Yeah, that was about$7 ,000. What the f*** is happening? Why? For f***ing why's sake, why? So you had almost$60 ,000 in retirement at one point. Yes. And then I had the additional$7 ,000 in stocks.
21:14Dude. Why the f*** did you sell it? Because again, you have$70 ,000 of debt. Why did you sell$7 ,000 with that? The$7 ,000 of stocks, did they go up in value before you sold them? Yes. Are you ready to pay taxes on them? Because that will come. That one I didn't think about. Where'd you sell them from? In what type of account? Like Robinhood or? No, it's through Fidelity.
21:48Fidelity? What was it? Just an individual brokerage? I really want to say so because it was an IRA. Pull up your Fidelity app for me and bring up that moment. Bring up that monthly statement Whatever month that was What the fuck are we doing? And you used it to go to the concert? Some of it, yes Just to make sure I wouldn't Like Go over limit on my credit cards You're$70 ,000 in debt Dude
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24:39No. At that point, I really thought it was up. Maybe it was just up at the moment. I'm not an investor. Up for the day, maybe. It's not about being an investor. You just have to look. It tells you. It just tells you. It literally just tells you. I, I've never, never exactly understood all the investment portions of it. No, it just, it tells you that you're up or down. It just tells you. Interesting. Oh, fuck's sake, dude. What have you done? Oh, for the sake of, and then where'd the rest of it go? Use the concert. Okay. Where'd the rest go? Pay down cards that I racked up again. Great. So, and then you apply to JG Wentworth?
25:26JG Wentworth? Huh? That's what we're applying to? I don't know how it works. And again, I just wanted to see, to see if it might be a better way of figuring things out than just getting another loan to consolidate. Because like, you know, they do say that you could like, maybe only pay like half of your debt, but I don't know how they do that. And if it was going to be like bankruptcy, I would be like, nah, that's not for me. I don't think. So I just wanted to see their processes and have a better understanding because I don't think it's on their website. You've done this so many times though.
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26:01You've done this so many times, but now you're actually just going to use debt to do it instead of pulling out from investing. It's going to be even worse. Is it? Consolidations are not bad. They are not bad. They're actually a really good tool. Okay. When you change your behavior, look what you've done. Every time you've consolidated in a way. Yeah. Every. And it's not even like I've consolidated just a few times. It's probably been since. How many? How many? I'm trying to think back. How many possibly? I graduated in 15. So I got the first card in 16. So I probably started doing consolidations in 19, I think.
26:45But how frequently? How frequently? If it's like one every four years, like then it's a couple, you know? Probably one every three years-ish, maybe. 2019? That'd be two. Oh, no, that's more than that. How many has it been? Just how many has it been? Probably four or five consolidations. Because sometimes I would pay off the consolidation a bit early, too. But that'd be in order to get another consolidation.
27:25Oh, f**k. Every time, like I said, I try to get better. And then I like fall short because I'm not good at the budgeting, if that's not obvious. And so it's like, you know, if I want to use like a budgeting spreadsheet, sometimes, you know, everyone has different bills that they pay. and I don't exactly understand how I can put my finances on that spreadsheet. So then I try to make my own. Why don't you use a f***ing app? Obviously, I advocate for DollarWise, but I've tried like rocket money. Yeah. And I think there's still certain cards that I couldn't connect right. And so I couldn't like...
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29:58Let's get into this. Okay. Let's get into the numbers. Capital One Venture. What's going on with this card? So that was the card. So the Capital One, it started as a like normal or I don't remember what it originated as, but I didn't earn many points on it. Boring. But then I got to the point that I was paying off the apartment every time because I would look directly at the apartment bill, but I would forget my other bills that also came out, like my electric and my internet bill. What a mess. Buddy, you pay rent on Capital One Venture? Yeah. On Capital One Venture? the fees that you get for paying rent on this.
30:45So there's like a 5 % fee, 6 % fee. I forget about the fees. You forget about the fees? It's monthly. So many people, well, the fees for the rent, like charging it on a credit card. Okay, yeah. So it's become more commonplace now for more places to like charge you for using a credit card. So I kind of got used to it and I kind of overlook it now. What? It's all for the points? for the sake of the points? The points that don't get me anywhere right now. Because I've got like$200 in, or$270 something dollars. Which means nothing because you literally lose$127.82 a month on interest on this card alone.
31:26That's where it's at now? That's where it's at now, but you also lose who knows what for fees that are tacked onto your rent. Yeah. Which I'd have to actually look at. It's usually, what is it? Like 3, 4, 5, 6 %? Depending? Probably. Yeah, it's f***ed. You don't do it on a credit card. Except for like the built card. That's like the one thing. The built card? Not a sponsor. They should. But I don't know. The points aren't just free money to you. You're spending like$5 per$1 points. It's f***ing crazy. Yeah, I think that's the craziest decision I had made on that one. If you make your minimum payments only and you do not purchase, which you're incapable of, oh my goodness, $4 ,177 to purchase this last month on this card alone.
32:13I'm going to die. Okay, cool. How long does this take to pay off? I'm going to guess about five, six years. 26 years. Oh, 26. If I only do the minimums. It's horrible. Okay. Oh, yeah. And that's just that one? 52 for you? Yes. And then yay, we will have finally paid off our card to card. But except no, because there's no way you're not spending on it in 26 years with your record. Yeah. And that was it's kind of really stupid because that is the card that made me really want to apply for everything. You're over the limit by a thousand. What? What? By a thousand. What? A thousand three hundred. Oh, why?
33:05What had happened? Why? What had happened was... What had happened was... You! So I... Like I said, I normally pay off exactly at least my rent. Yeah! And so I... The rent was due earlier this month. Shocker how that happens. Right? No, exactly. Paid or it declined. And so I was like, oh, okay. Let me make sure the rest of the money is over. Decline for what? It was like$100 short. It's your purchases. Yeah. It was at$127 of interest accrued. $202 minimum payment. We are at$6 ,627.65. 26 years to pay off. And you'll pay a total of$21 ,898. Oh, goody. Oh, that's great. What's that one? We got Papayou.
34:00Papayou. Papayou. We're going and getting restaurants. When I like to car, rent a car. What are you renting a car for? Who are you renting a car? Why are you renting a car? You have a car? I think there's a car. There is a car. Why are you renting a car? About a month ago, a month and a half ago, I did get in a car accident. Was not my fault. Don't do that. It was not my fault. They were a woman. They rear ended me. Ladies and gentlemen of financial audit. This is one of the most exciting moments in this channel's history. You know, I've been working on building all these educational tools or budgeting app, all this crazy stuff over this past year.
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35:51And I didn't understand how it worked because of my first accident since like becoming an adult. Because yes, I had one previous one. um but i was a lot younger uh and that one was my fault years ago um but anyways the the car rental place um it was covered by theirs up to a certain amount and then they still um because i wanted a certain suv okay yes it didn't cover it perfectly you wanted a certain suv well they gave me an suv but then it was the only suv they had and i i don't understand how some of those things work just because I've never experienced it before. But anyway, it was like four extra dollars.
36:30I want you to understand how to finish the sentence. Okay. It was like four extra dollars a day. Quiet, quiet. What is Studio 6? Studio 6. Hold on. What was it? How much was the charge? One was$34.50. One was$50. Studio 6.
36:51Then we got some Petco in here. We got Chick-fil-A. You don't know what Studio 6 is? You're spending a dick ton. I did? Yeah. How much was it? What? There was two purchases. It's like$84 total. Texas BB Club, McDonald's, McDonald's going in and getting some bullshit. $1 ,389? That's my apartment. Oh, thank you. That would be insane. You know what's crazy? You spent$4 ,177 on here. $1 ,389 of it was rent. Meaning, f*** you, you blew$3 ,000 or whatever. There's parking bullshit, parking, some Jen thing, Globe Life,$140. Oh, yeah, that was concert. Now, half of that was getting paid back by my friend.
37:40What, the concert? Half of the purchase because that was when we bought t-shirts. Which purchase? The Globe Life. Okay, great. That was$140 to the extra$3 ,000 you spent on top of rent. This is insane. Studio 6 was the hotel. That's what Studio 6 was. Sorry, that just clicked.
38:05This is insane spending, and you're leaving out on 28.49 % interest rate card.
38:15Better interest than my other cards. Is it? 28? Really? That's usually kind of where a lot of places are topped out now for average cards. Listen, listen, here's the thing. What? The store cards are 30-something percent. Well, fuck you either way because you've had a late fee this year on this card. I did. I think one, right? That's one on this card. Why? $1 ,000 in interest. $1 ,000 in interest. I got to the point. I had had all my things on auto pay. and then for some reason I was adjusting, I was trying to adjust how I was putting the money to the accounts so that I could pay a little bit extra you make money for Houston you're fine, you're in a great income position not like stellar, I'm not saying you're rich by any means but you're in a strong position especially at 27 this makes no sense I have family history of buying things.
39:21Family history? You don't blame family history? What the f*** are you talking about family history? Well, I'm just like... All right, foreclosure notices are in my house growing up, but does that mean I should have foreclosure? What the f*** are you talking about? I just learned spending habits from the parents. No, you learned that it was f***ed. Did you see how f***ed it is? So you do different. What are you talking about? Well, like, you know, sometimes my dad has things that he likes to buy. My mom has things that she likes to buy. you know I never really went to many concerts as a kid and so especially now being an adult with my own money I like to go to the concerts so that I could have you should be able to go to concerts you should be able to afford concerts in your situation you just live well beyond your means it's not even close you spend at least 50 % more than you should you would have dude if you're starting you okay yeah the pull in the 401k that was stupid okay that was dumb that was stupid I want to die hearing it Okay, but here's the thing.
40:15Okay, good. So you paid off debt. You're starting fresh, making$4 ,300 a month net after taxes. Great. You were doing that fresh, nothing saved, but also no debt. Wonderful. That alone, 50, 30, 20, you have substantial fund money to spend. Substantial. If I wasn't paying other things. Huh? That would have been$1 ,290 a month in fund money. I'm not saying you can't live. You should have been able to live. But you lived at$3 ,000 a month,$2 ,500 a month. Who knows? And you did that while also putting your wants higher than you needed to, building your debts, which pushed up your minimum monthly payments.
40:59And now you just can't afford to live. You can and should, in fact, be in a good position. But you're not because you. I like buying merch and stuff. And you can. Your income, you can. You have substantial fund money to spend on a monthly basis. But you f***ed it. You spend double, triple what you can. And now you're done. You're done. But there are so many things like I wanted then. This year alone you've lived three years worth of fun in terms of your spending. So that means you cannot live the next two years. Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door. Expertly cleaned and folded.
41:35So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you. Like tea time you. Mmm. Or this tea time you. Or even this tea time you. So did you hear about Dave? Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you. So update on Dave. It's up to you. We'll take the laundry. Rinse. It's time to be great. Spending on fun. You've already lived it. You've already spent it. It's done. Now it needs to all go towards debt. What? I'm just thinking of the K-pop. The K-pop? there's always K-pop except I mean Korea's not really going to exist in about 75 years so but I mean you'll be fine you'll be fine you're not going to be dancing at 100 well no but you know there's groups like BTS who are finally all back from military and like they have a concert next spring that's a concert dude but it's again the fact that you go to a concert constantly and travel constantly and get the hotels constantly and get all the merch constantly it's about to over over over overspent good concert next spring wonderful that gives us a goal a place to pay off a ton of debt yeah i guess yeah how much is your bts concert oh i don't know yet they haven't really it's gonna be insane oh probably there's a lot of fans yes um and ticket masters on stage it's crazy everyone loves them americans are obsessed yes my girlfriend's a big k-pop fan my the second in command here his wife is obsessed with k-pop in fact they've all been to korea this is just this is like, I get it.
43:10I get it. I get it. That's an ultimate goal too. You have$10 ,000 of BTS merch in your apartment right now? $10 ,000 worth? Yeah. That is crazy. Okay. There's a way to go to BTS. Have you seen BTS Live? Yes. In 2021. Good. Well, here's a way to go to BTS. Sell that. Put it towards that. My thing is with the selling it is I get really concerned, at least for myself. Yeah. Well, Well, no, not for, not for like - A five foot four is going to pull up and - Well, no, no, no. It's the expectations that are around K-pop merch selling because, you know, a lot of people, when they sell the photo cards, because think trading cards or whatever, you want to think for that.
43:56But when they sell the photo cards, they're like, oh, here's like 5 ,000 stickers with it. And here's this cute little case that goes with it. What are you telling me? And I don't want to do all that. like I just I don't know how to I don't know how to get it shipped out or sold it and you lose 10 % but it's still worth it and that gets you to being able to go to BTS I like BTS BTS is great go to BTS I want you to we have to sacrifice you've gone to BTS you've already spent your BTS money over the last couple years in order to get there we have to make sacrifices that means selling your 10 ,000 hours of BTS yeah how many times have you seen BTS twice twice.
44:35Okay. It's not the end of the world if you don't make it because you'll probably go see them again. Their military service is done, right? Yeah. You'll be able to see them again in the future. That's true. If you miss this one, it's not the end of the world for the sake of your entire life. It's one of those more special ones because the one that I went to was right after COVID, right? And then this is right after they're getting back from the military. Dude, I'm sorry. No offense. Just like Taylor Swift and Swifties, it will always be a special one. There will always be a reason why this is a special one.
45:06Debatable. Come on. No, no, no. You will always cope that this isn't special. This year, like last year, I went to 17 and another K-pop group. Last year, I went to 17 because it was their year before everyone was breaking out in the military. But this year, you know, they're coming back through. My friends are like, hey, you want to buy tickets? And I was like, nah, I just I can't this year because I already knew. I already said no. I get it. The fucking K-pop girlie that starred in season three of The White Lotus is one of the hottest women ever invented in the history of humanity. I get it. I'd pay a lot of money too, but I can afford it.
45:43You can't. I mean, that's just reality. There is a mathematical factor here. I don't always like the math, but... You don't even like the math? Sometimes I don't like the math. But you like K-pop? Pretend you're Asian. You love the math. What's the next one?
46:02This is probably the first time I'm really looking at my statements in a while. I bet. That's all f***ed. That one was over maxed out. By a lot. Yeah. Apple Card. What's going on with the Apple Card? Okay, let's be honest. Waiting for payday feels like watching paint dry on your last dollar. But with Step's new early pay feature, you don't have to wait. Step is the all-in-one money app that helps you build credit, earn cash back, grow your savings and borrow cash before payday without the mess. With early pay, you can get access to up to$250 before payday and bridge the gap for when life happens.
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47:16Yeah, great business model. That's where I bought my tickets and my friend's tickets. So she's paying me for that. I think she's almost done paying me for that. I'm not good at always tracking it, but she is. She has it. She pays me like every two weeks for it. But I also use that to buy all my other tickets. Previously, you know, I bought my mom tickets for Lauren Daigle. Did you call me? I didn't call you anything. I said Lauren Daigle. Daigle. Yeah. Okay. But that was like a year ago. Sorry, you kind of, your words flow into. I ramble. I just can't hear you after about one sentence. Oh, okay.
48:04I don't know what it is. Okay. I don't know if it's your fault or my fault. Am I boring? No, it's just, they just, they keep going. Yeah, like I said, I ramble. I'm a rambler. You're a rambler. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's not. It's probably what I also do with my finances. as I ramble on with my spending. Do you have a boyfriend? No. I would suggest it's not good then. Out! Okay. There's probably a lot of reasons. But, yeah, no, I mean, we got to fix a few things first. I don't, I don't really want to focus on dating life when I need to focus on this. Well, I assume you're waiting for...
48:45Uh-oh. Jin. but he is actually my favorite from bts yeah mine too oh really what do you know about him no i'm a jimin kind of guy oh jimin jimin i'm a jimin kind of guy he is a very pretty boy too he's a pretty boy they're all pretty boys he's got a lot um jinn jinn has the more recent songs jimin uh recently got out of military jinn got out first um but yeah jimin's jimin's music is I think we almost dropped the nuke for them back then. We didn't. No, we didn't. We almost did. For them. For them. But nukes are bad. So. At least they stopped worse. But they're still bad. All the aftermath. Well, it looks like you were at work because you went to Saboro.
49:36Yeah. Yeah, you did. Vending machine. Vending machine. Doze Cannoli. Vending machine. Vending machine. Freddy's Monster Mini Golf. We're definitely not on a date with Jim in there. are we? No, that was an outing with friends. I do actually have friends. Fenty machine. I like Coca-Cola. Grow therapy,$184? Oh, yeah. After the wreck, I kind of went into... It got me very, very anxious, so I actually went to see a doctor. No. What's grow therapy? Oh, it's just therapy. Yeah, that's actually just therapy. I was thinking growing. No! That's the word I was set on. I think that stuff is disgusting. Yeah, it's very stinky, very smelly.
50:19Disgusting. Okay, thank you. Anyways, but yeah, actual therapy. Kuro Revolving, Disney Plus, Vending Machine, Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A, Vending Machine, Houston, Vending Machine, Vending Machine, Papua, therapy again. I'm okay with the therapy. I don't like that it's on a card. That's probably back south. That's a Korean interest, but Shakura, Japan. Cheating on your Koreans. Vending Machine, Chipotle, Microsoft, Microsoft. I got to remember what Microsoft ones were for. I think I'm trying to take some like online classes for Microsoft. Chick-fil-A because you're endlessly going to Chick-fil-A.
50:55Actually, they're a very conservative culture. So maybe they do. It's possible. I do call it the Lord's Chicken. I mean, it's great, especially when you're stressed. I don't know if they're religious, but they're very socially conservative over there. In the Western Eastern nations. That is true. But yeah. Yeah, that was over$1 ,000 of purchase, by the way. Pretty much all bullshit, except for the therapy. So, you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Tulum? Get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or, let's do a little research.
51:38Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. Which accounted for maybe$250 ,000, so a quarter. Yeah. Okay, great. That's wonderful. At 26.24 % interest rate,$74, 80 cents of interest that month alone. It's going to be hundreds of dollars by year end. Already$1 ,000 on the last card, so we're going to be like, what, by end of year? Almost$1 ,750 on both these cards combined? For what? For Chick-fil-A? And Coca-Cola. And Chick-fil-A. Last night, I love Chick-fil-A. I'm a fat f***ing. Yummy, yummy. Um, yeah. But I can afford it.
52:20I thought I could afford it. Really? Yeah. That's the only reason I would actually... Wait, how did you think you could afford that? You knew your debts were not being paid off. Um, because... How did you think you could afford that, please? I would like to hear that. Remember how I sold my socks? Huh? Remember how I sold my stocks? I thought I could afford... So you said socks. No, stocks. Okay. Yes. But you thought you had more? I thought I still had some more money from that. Where? In one of my bank accounts. I think I tried to oversimplify and I overconfuzzled myself with the different accounts that I have because I have two checkings and two savings.
53:05Why? Why are you overcomplicating this thing? Sometimes I feel like if I separate it out, it makes it easier. and I'm realizing now that I overcomplicate and so I'm trying to go back to simplify, but I don't know how to go about probably closing one of those without... I don't know if it affects you badly if you close a bank account because I've always heard... Wait, a bank account? No, close a bank account. You can close a bank account? A bank account? Are you talking credit card or bank account? Bank account. Close it, yes. Who gives a... No, no, no, no, no, no, nothing. You should close your credit cards because you can't be trusted to have credit cards.
53:39I'll get you access to the Fizz card, debit card that builds credit. That's fine. I'd use that. I'll also get you your course credit certification. But honestly, I have a pretty good career path right now. But maybe you can get that to someone in your life. A lot of people have used that in the show to update their resumes, get better jobs, and higher pay. Highly recommend. But okay. Yeah, this Wells Fargo, fuck you, is at – this is insane. This is the biggest balance yet. And I'm three in. $8 ,014.04. Minimum monthly payment of$2 ,10. These are stacking. And you're over the limit. You're over the limit.
54:23That's only because of the interest. No, is that because of the interest? Is that because of the interest? Well, it's. That is not how that works. That is not how that works. That's not how that works. I mean, obviously, I spent to get there. but that's not how that works if you are just making your minimum monthly payment the interest is the minimum monthly payment is always going to be high enough that it will still technically go down after interest the only way for the interest to push it above the balance is after you make your minimum monthly payment you immediately purchase money up to the max and then the interest shocker pushes it above that is the only way that works that is the only way that works 22 years to pay this one off 22 years what are we doing minimum monthly payments only without purchasing it Oh, we purchased because you purchased$857.
55:11Just this month? Well,$129 of interest accrued. So it's$700 worth of purchases or is that the$800? $857! I'm just thinking sure. Where'd you hear$700 from? Well, you said the interest. So that'll be like$900 charged to it. $129. Okay, okay. Oy. You started over the limit any way anyway.
55:39You're just an over-the-limit girlie That's all you are I get to a point where I try And then they just I spend again And then you give up immediately A thousand hours in interest this year so far almost So we're gonna be like$2 ,700 by the end of the year You're almost That's a half a month pay Half the hours you worked last month is already gone Already gone In interest Dairy queen we're doing the you know I'm eating a lot of Dairy Queen after this our Hammer Elite show because we post three premium shows every single day Monday through Friday we're doing a taste and valuing the entire Dairy Queen menu I'm very excited tractor supply tractor supplies for my dog that's dog food McDonald's Patco it's not dog food that was probably for a bath and a nail trim Put him in your bath.
56:35Cut his nails. Geronimo Adventure Park,$234. That was an outing with my mom. Your mom. She can pay for it. No. My mom is nice. I wanted to take her out. She can pay for it. No, no, no. You're over the maxed out. I want you to do it as well. You're over maxed out. That's impossible. You cannot. You're destroying your life. You're destroying your life. I want you to. There is nothing in here that I do not want you to do. Yeah. You cannot do it because you've destroyed your finances. I just, yeah. I mean, I get that. But like, I always, I'm one of those people. It's like, love is a gift giver. Sniffspot.com, ballet restaurant, bakery cafe, going in and getting some bullshit.
57:26I like food. but uh sniff spot is also for my dog what is that 20 so basically it's like you rent people because i live in an apartment so you like uh rent somebody's backyard for like an hour or two at a time and i had only i had dog parks are free and they're everywhere and you are in the fourth most populated city in the country i also wanted her to be able to go swimming in clean water and Not gross water because the water at the dog parks are gross. But I only meant to do it the once and then the subscription like automatically hit in and I wasn't able to cancel it. I did cancel that one a week ago.
58:07$783.84.16.
58:13It's accruing at 20 % interest. $100 something of that is also for my dog's care credit. Not care credit. Care club. Okay. Is that your insurance? Um, that's through her vet. And basically it split up all her shots and her, um, her spay. Cause I got her spayed responsible dog owner on that part. Um, got her spayed. So they split it up over the first year. Um, so that you're all your shots and you can have unlimited. Okay. Yeah. Thanks. Affirm. Anyways. What's going on with Affirm? I bought a Samsung watch. That I'm not currently wearing cause I forgot it today. Why? Because I like tracking my steps and it has better.
58:58Get a little Fitbit, dude. I was supposed to also return the old watch so that I could get a credit. The fact is, with your income, this is a$240 purchase. Yeah. There's remaining$182.66. You can get that on your income when you're not in this position. but you've just allowed yourself to get completely f***ed. You're done, man. You're done. I keep thinking that I have the money. How? How do you think that, though? How do you think that? Where's the thought? A lot of times I just go, there you go. There's the card, you know. That's you thinking you have money when you say because you can say, here you go, here's the card?
59:45That doesn't make sense. Please explain that. Well, like I said, this is probably my first time looking at the statements in probably six months. For the whole last six months, you just put your head down, didn't even give a f*** and just thought you had money? I would, well, I mean, I looked at the statement balance and, you know, I paid a little bit more than the minimum, uh, mostly every month, uh, but then I would charge it back up. The minimum payment is$122 a month, so, I mean, it would be paid off quick, but it's just so f***ing stupid. This is just so f***ing stupid, although the Samsung watch, I guess it was$340.
1:00:20dollars. Yeah. Even still in your income situation, you can do that, but not when you're like this, you've the whole thing up, meaning you cannot actually live the life that your income usually is able to provide. You can't. Yeah. Um, I, I guess that happened. If you just stick your head down for six months and don't even look at what's happening, you're like, I have money. No, you don't. It's one of those things. It's like, I, I hadn't affirmed for a while. And so I finally was It's like, I haven't affirmed for a while, so let me affirm this because then I can afford it because, you know, it's the$60 payments instead of, you know,$240 at once.
1:00:59Or the actual— Close the firm. You can't have access to this. You're abusing it. You do not understand. Just the consequences. Your minimum fee payments are stacking immensely, and it's going to make your entire life unaffordable. It's why you can't do things. It's why you feel the pinch. Why you feel like your income is not stretching as far as it should because your minimum fee payments are already up to—what is that? $650 and we're not done. We're not done. We have$70 ,000 of debt and we have not fucking got there yet. I'll tell you that. Not even half. No, because I remember the last time which was like three weeks ago that I was like how much money do I even have per month after all these minimum payments and it was like$300 to spend on food and gas.
1:01:48So you think you can go get a$350 watch, huh? Yep. Okay, Macy's. First scorecard. Right at the mall. Exactly. I work in the mall. So it's... I didn't open it until last Christmas, and that's when I bought all the Christmas presents. And then, you know, I know all the sales that are over there, so... I thought you used the 401k bullshit for that. The 5 ,000 left from the 401k. Well, I bought it on the card so I could get the additional discounts. And then I paid off the card. $232.60 on here with a$68.55 minimum payment. $30 of fees charged,$5.55 of interest, and$65 of purchases. This went up. It doubled.
1:02:38It fucking doubled. It more than doubled. It doubled. You had a late fee. You had a late fee. Yeah, they had to call me on that one. Register candy. You got candy registered, Levi's, dresses, merchandise. I had to dress up for work. You had to dress up. That's why we got candy and merch. What the f*** are we talking about? Well, the candy is because I need sweet treats every now and then. But the actual clothing, I mean, you know work. Sometimes you just get overstressed. I budget what I'm allowed to do. But sometimes you just like need a quick sweet treat. You need to know the difference between need and want.
1:03:22Yeah, but like I'm trying to get a little bit better. So instead of buying candy at the register, I got a big... Instead of 34 % interest rate. What? You got a big what? I got a bigger bag of M &M's so I could just eat out of M &M's over the next month. You might just go. You know, just swallow them all. Huh? I'm not that crazy. I don't know. Well, of course. I love candy. Candy's wonderful. The bigger bag I get, the more candy I eat because there's more candy. Not when you forget about it in your little cabinet. You're stopping at Sweet Treats. You know what you forget about? Paying on time at a 34 % interest rate card.
1:04:02I think it's only on two cards. But yeah, I think they recently increased that percentage. This makes no sense. I mean, Lindsay's telling me you buy lunch at the mall every single day. Yet we're stopping for Sweet Treats. That is your Sweet Treat. Why do you need an additional sweet treat on top of your sweet treat? So you're f***ing getting your sweet treats. Your entire life is a sweet treat. You've lost$1.5 million for sweet treats. $1.5 million for sweet treats.
1:04:31Yeah, but I mean, there's no guarantee I'm going to live that long. No, but there's a guarantee that you had two late fees this year so far on this card. Two, two, two, two. And also, here's the fact, more sweet treats. You're right. Less likelihood you're going to live that long. Two, statistical reality as a human, as a woman human, especially in the United States, you are going to live into at least your upper 70s, right? So let's bet on the statistical likelihood and make this sacrifice that isn't that much right now because you have a strong income to live a decent life and prepare for that time.
1:05:06Prepare for that time. Okay? Statistical reality. And if you do sacrifice and then you die tomorrow, you won't even know you sacrificed and you won't regret it because you're dead. So it doesn't matter. I mean, you got a point there. This is crazy. What is this? What am I seeing here? Klarna. What do I see? TikTok. Why is there a TikTok logo right in front of me? That is my only TikTok purchase ever. Of$120? $120. Of what? It was a certain edition of a Bible that I thought would... Yeah. It was cheaper to get it on TikTok than it was to get it on their actual website. So I figured that was... Does the Bible approve of K-pop?
1:05:54That's something on why I'm reading the Bible right now. To learn if there's a K-pop passage? No, just I'm trying to get back into church a little bit more. And so that was one of my, I need, I need it in the Bible. I can't wait until the youth service is K-pop. You know, some places actually already do it. Exactly. Because you got it. They cater to the youngs. Yes, they do. Listen, when I was young and my grandparents, they dragged me to that Sunday. It was just like, oh man, here's youthful music. Youthful music now is like K-pop. Yeah, there's actually a new person that is Christian singing like K-pop stuff.
1:06:35but it's Christian songs. I thought that was cool. But yeah, anyways, that's a Bible, which I think is one of my, I consider it more necessary, but I probably definitely could have gone something cheaper. Yeah, you could have got a free one walking down an avenue anywhere. Go to a college campus. They hand them all like candy. Those people that won't leave you alone on the corner? Some of those people are weird and scary. Yes, but it's free. It's scary, I don't know, but it's free. Houston I know this is this is awesome but still Houston go to the nice part of Houston there's rich Houston everywhere don't go to ghetto Houston go to rich Houston okay but yeah I don't know rich Houston in certain areas and then that's a drive as well so I still love the K-pop I still love the K-pop yeah K-pop's great yeah there's not much music I don't like do I destroy my life for it?
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1:10:24This is a few months ago now. I thought it was that much. Amazon, Amazon Cheddar's, Domino's, Dairy Queen, and a vending machine. You've had two late things this year so far! $500 an adventure. So yeah, you're going to lose an entire month's worth of income by a year's end. Pull up your Amazon and start a screen recording. Because it's Android, I don't know how to. Got you. Amazon. Samsung. Big K-pop fan. She loves Korea. I do. She loves Korea. She's going full. choose one of the three oligarchs there. She chose the Samsung family. Where's my screen record? Hey, I love my Samsung since I first got one.
1:11:02Do not come after me. I love your products. I have one of your TVs at home. I am not making fun of you. I know you are powerful and very scary. So the previous orders? Yes? If your phone had iOS, I would use it. If it connected to my iPad, I would use it. Sistery Purchase. Okay. Very good TVs. My only very recent one was... Give! The only one that's like right there is actually a Bible for somebody else. Two? You need double? That was for someone else. Does that double your chances? You are HIV Aladin? Post-death? Huh? Post-death? No. Again, that one was for somebody else. It's a different version with different print.
1:11:53No, I think the most recent purchases were for my dog. One being like Benadryl because she had gotten sick. Yeah, okay. See, Semperica Trio for my dog. The Benadryl was for my dog. And then Necessities. That's where I get some of my Necessities. It's not bad. No. Not to be$3 ,000 on the card. Your spending on the card was bad. And your two late payments this year so far were bad. Let me stop this. And reminder, we do like Samsung here. Samsung. If you are hearing this, Mr. and Mrs. Samsung. You like them. I like them. I like still being alive. Yes. I like your company. I have your electronics.
1:12:36What's the dude's name? And I support it. Bezos? Oh, wait, no. I'm thinking Amazon. That is not a Korean last name, Bezos. No, it is not. It is not. At least you know how to stop them. You're passed on your Best Buy card. This makes no sense. you owe$72.17 yet your pass due? For what possible reason? It's a$60 payment. This is so moronic. Fees, interest, and you had$42 on there and then you were late and then fees hit and then interest hit. Reminder, we like Samsung. When I made a purchase on Amazon, like on Amazon, I forgot that card was linked and so I hadn't spent on it in almost a year. Usually when I spend on my Best Buy card, it is on a Samsung product.
1:13:17At Best Buy, probably, or just anywhere. That's what I was saying. Yeah. But, yeah, so it went through Amazon. I didn't realize that one got charged. And because I haven't used it in so long, I didn't realize that there was a money due on it. Sam's Club. Sam's Club. That card made me mad. Why? Well, you don't own it. There's nothing to even write down here. I mean, you paid this off. So, well, it was at a$1 ,000 limit. And then they recently dropped it to$250. Good, because you're not trustworthy. Yeah, they for some reason thought when I was paying off the card earlier this year that it was a scam for some reason.
1:13:59And I had to call them to go, why? About 60 % of your purchases on this year so far looks like about gas. But the rest has been just going out and bullshitting. Yeah. In terms of the category that it lays out. And I mean, Sam's, again, Sam's is good. I like Samsung at Costco. They both, both places sell Samsung products. So I really like them. And, but you went and got Chick-fil-A. I did get Chick-fil-A on that card. Not, not much. I actually like forgot about this card too. Wait, a late fee. A late fee. A late fee on the Samsung? Yes. I don't remember that one. What the fuck are you doing? This is so ridiculous.
1:14:35Chick-fil-A late fee and then you pay it off. This, we're just, you're just losing money. You're not a credit card person. and close all your credit cards. You cannot be trusted with a credit card to save your life. So, but if I, like if that's an actual option, again, learning things here. Yes, it's an option. Close it. Well, like how do you close it and then pay it? Like that's just how they work. Contact them. Go to the website. Call them. Do what you got to do. And then, and then. Take away the tool that is damaging you. You cannot manage it worth. That's better than locking them away in my apartment, huh?
1:15:11because I tried to do that for a while. That won't work, buddy. You can put things on your phone. You can order a new copy. It doesn't work. Yeah, I've done that. Yeah, no shit. I'm not surprised at all. Okay, care credit. Care credit. $71 balance. How you even passed through$2.10? $2.10? I don't know how the$2 really were charged. You went from$60 ,000 saved in retirement well beyond anyone your age. By the way, that's like the savings rate for retirement for someone like a decade and a half older than you at that time, by the way. Maybe even two decades. Like, it's crazy. You were doing so well to being passed due on$2.21.
1:15:56What a f***ing joke. That's another one I didn't realize had any money spent on it. Care credit,$71.48 stupid cents is what's owed. You purchase$67.20, you owe$32.21 for your minimum. What the f***? This is so stupid. It's so stupid. Yeah, you've had many fees this year so far and interest. You're behind constantly. It's at a 34 % interest rate. And yeah, obviously it's a vet thing, but what the f***? Just pay. I blame the user interface on that one. Blame you being a... Dude, this is... You just have to click a couple buttons. Not when... I'm being a child. Not when... So every time on their app, at least...
1:16:42Hey, I'm going to let you know. Compared to a lot of people, you're not a complete idiot who's come on this show. And yet, even them who've... I've met some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life on this show. And they pay their care credit payments. Because everyone has care credit. I don't know what it is. It doesn't let me log in half the time. Shut up. You're being stupid. Call them. Set up auto pay. This is so easy. Call them. They give you extra fees. Set up auto pay. I probably should. Oh, you probably should. I would suggest so.
1:17:16Ah. Okay. What is one main financial? What's going on with this? Which one is it? $4 ,997 of something. Is that the one that was from November? I don't know. I don't know anything. So I have two. One was for dental and one was, I think, a consolidation. Are they the same amount? One was about$5 ,000. I think the$5 ,000 is the dental. So that one should be the one from last year. Okay. What? Did you break? Huh? Did you break? That's a lot of dental work. Well, yes. I'm a ginger. All your sweet treats? Probably. What do you mean you're a ginger? Lindsay has good teeth. Clara has good teeth. What are you talking about?
1:17:53I'm surrounded by gingers. I don't have a choice. So this is an actual... That's funny. This is an actual thing. like gingers have a harder time at the dentist because of all the pain meds. And they're not always the best. And so when I was a kid, I was traumatized. And so I didn't go to the dentist for a very long time once I became an adult. But I found a good dentist and they fixed a lot of things, obviously. Well, that's fine. But the fact is you alone, this shouldn't be a major issue with your income again. But because of everything you did, it was a major issue. Because if that was the only payment.
1:18:2521.8%. You took this at the same time you took out the 401k though? That one, yeah. What the f***? That would have cash flowed. That would have probably been a better option. But now you're at a 21.8 % rate. What? What? Um, yeah. I was just trying to be really sure that everything was covered correctly and breaking it up in payments was easier at the time. This goes to the end of the f***ing decade. $163.65 minimum payment. $4 ,997.44. is owed. Are your teeth good now? Better? You need more? A little bit. What? It's more for the gums. It's maintenance. You got gums? Periodontal. Stop. I'm like preventing.
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1:19:55Yeah. Hey, now we're on the dental. Yeah, that one's... I can't remember. Which clearly your five consolidations have never worked in the history of ever. But I don't know the principle on this. What's owed left on this? Because I have your minimum payment is$147.24, but what's the balance? Let me find out if it's not on there. Give me a second. It must be substantial because a lot is going to interest. I need to know the interest rate too. This is crazy. One main. And that one weirds me out, too. Because, okay. Outstanding. This is for the one that's$147? Yeah. The minimum monthly payment. So, outstanding principal as of my most recent email.
1:20:42Oh, okay. Yesterday. Was$4 ,283.14. And what's your interest rate? $4 ,80. Well, I'm sorry. $4 ,000. $4 ,283.14. Okay. Interesting. This one doesn't say the interest. I'd have to log in real quick. I can calculate it. Okay.
1:21:04The math I wish I could do. Yeah, it's about 25%. So your dental work's 25%. That's insane. And your consolidation was like 20%. Wild. Absolutely wild. All while doing it at the same... The dental one, that one, at the same time of your 401k withdrawal with fees and taxes. Okay. We have a car. Super Apple, you're Les. Hmm? That explains the lack of makeup. Oh, hold on. No, I'm not lesbian. Oh, why are you insulted by that? You're homophobic? No, I'm not homophobic. I'm just straight. So I just, I'm like, no. And I understand, like, that's a whole thing. Taking such insult? We love lesbians. We love the gays.
1:21:46We love everyone. No, I'm not. I'm not saying anything about. We love the K-pop. We love the African-Americans. Some would just call them Americans. No, I just, I don't like being construed as something that I'm not. I am not a lesbian. I am very straight. You're very defensive about this lesbianism. I don't think I am. I'm just f***ing with you. I know, but. You're taking this so seriously. Okay, you got a Subaru. I don't know. That's the thing I say. Anyways. We're making up our own language. Sometimes. Sometimes it's fun. Is that a ginger thing or a lesbian thing? It is neither. $30 ,892. You're denying that you're a ginger too?
1:22:32Now I can really take your word on everything. $30 ,892.75 is owed on this Subaru Outback. Yes. Am I going to see a U-Haul purchase in your checking account? No. Mm-hmm. Definitely not in U-Haul. $769.79. Uh, can we get Aaron in here real quick? All right. Come on. Come on over here, Miss Aaron. Right here. Okay. Just confirmation. A resident lesbian. Don't say anything. I need a lesbian score zero to 10. Zero being the straightest you've ever met. 10 being the gayest you've ever met. Okay. Uh, just on appearance? Oh, yes, just there. Uh, super outback as well. $30 ,000 out on it. Yeah, well, that was the giveaway there.
1:23:20Because right now it's like looking more... K-pop? Um... Being in the K-pop. That's kind of gay. My girlfriend's really into K-pop. I'm going to go with a seven. Out of ten. Well done. Actual zero, but okay. Yeah, she buys Bibles like hobbies, so. That is also kind of gay to me. Oh! All right, thank you, Erin. Thank you, Erin. That's the lesbian assessment score. Yeah. Okay. At CalebHammer.com. forward slash les. You can take your score.
1:23:59Goodness gracious. Well, it's at a 6 % interest rate. It's not the worst. It is a depreciating asset. What do you think this car's worth? It's probably worth, I think the last time I saw, like 27, 25? Yeah, we're seeing about 28 private sale. Trading would probably be closer to about 25. But the$769 payments, what's insane, $30 ,892.75 owed on it. That's fucking crazy. And what's annoying to me is I had put$10 ,000 down on that one. Welcome to depreciating assets. I mean, I'm sorry. I mean, this car might be a little over where I'd want you for your, certainly way over where I want you for where you are with your debt, of course.
1:24:37But actually with your income, I'd be okay, that$25 ,000,$30 ,000 range. But you still, you owed your parents$5 ,000 for a previous car? What is that? Okay. It was, and this is years ago. I had pulled my dad's truck into the driveway. And in doing so, I hit the mailbox and scraped up the entire side. This was at the middle of the night. Yeah, you keep hitting things. This person that is totally never at fault. So basically, I had been paying my dad for the repairs to his truck. But when I went into purchasing this car after my previous car went down, He said, hey, if you buy this car that I know is better because your mom also has it.
1:25:24And they had done all the research on it back then. The Outback, your mother's a lesbian. She's married to a man. That doesn't mean anything. My dad said, I'll forgive you for this$5 ,000 you owe to me if you get to this car that I know would be better for you in your future. Okay. Well, student loans for what? Did you get a degree? Nope. I don't think so. Yeah, not with how much. because it's$8 ,678.32. Median in this country is closer to about$40 ,000, even for dropouts as well, including myself. $72.34 is your minimum monthly. Yeah, I got it on the one that it will scale up later in my life.
1:26:03I don't really like that. I'd get on the traditional while you can. I used to be paying the traditional, which was about$1.12 a month. Yep, that sounds right. And then I redid it when I was trying to... I don't know, because that scale-up is going to f*** you. Probably. But this gives you the opportunity now to pay down the debt before it. That's true. Okay, check in account$108. So that's all your debt. We got your debt. We got my debt. Good. You're zelling out money, zelling out money. Zelling out to who? I don't know. We black out names. Well, okay, yes. There was one zelle that was... And the savings account went down from$1 ,695 to$1 ,212.
1:26:42What's going on? So that's where I always put the money that would go to my rent. My paycheck automatically puts into there so that I don't touch it until I try to pay the rent card. $827.12. Is that the Wells Fargo savings? Okay. Checking. Oh, Wells Fargo checking. We're selling out money. Cinemark door dashing. Door dashing little scissors. Selling out money. Door dashing. Door dashing. Door dashing. Door dashing. Door dashing. Door dashing. What the f*** are we doing? And then sis savings,$415. I don't see the retirement worth dick. So, fuck me. Okay. That savings, yeah. Again, that's where I end up putting money so that I can pay.
1:27:26I don't touch it so it can pay for my car. I put$390 each time, and so there's a lot of money staying over. What a joke. Okay. Like I said, I overcomplicated it and I thought it would make my life simpler and it did not. All right. Minimum monthly payments. Let's calculate this. Her venture card is$202. Apple card is$110. Wells Fargo is$210. We are at$2 ,105.67. Disgusting. Reminder, income$4 ,300 net on a monthly basis. What is your rent? It averages$13.60. Is that including utilities and everything? So it includes everything except electrical and internet. What are those combined?
1:28:18$172. Okay. Phone bill. I don't exactly pay one right now. Huh? I'm still on my parents' line. Well, did you say that? I usually should be. Well, yeah. Are you supposed to be paying them? I should be paying them. How much are you supposed to be paying them? About$100 a month. Car insurance. Car insurance, I usually do. I've only ever done this. How much is your car insurance? So it is, at least I'm about to have to pay it again. How much is it? $1 ,100. Okay, every six months. Jeez, dude. Okay, so we're talking$184. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive. Average month. I don't know my average. Come on, what do you think?
1:29:04I'm hoping it's about$60 we got about$200 that's what we saw last month so I'm budgeting that in necessary food$300 that's all you need use our budget friendly cookbook meal prep meal plan warm it up when you get home TP fund anything else you need$100 to survive that is toilet paper that are dildos that it's whatever medical healthcare do you have co-pays I said dildos instead of tampons I meant tampons I don't know why I said dildos I wasn't even making a joke I just said the wrong thing I think that's what you buy Anyways I do My insurance is through my company I don't have a copay Or my deductible is like$4 ,000 Bruh Do you spend anything on medical on a monthly basis?
1:29:53Not on a monthly basis right now Is there a gym? No Okay How much for pet food? Um,$50. Okay. Now, what is this pet subscription thing that you do? So there's two. There's the actual insurance. How much is that? Which is, I think, about$50. Good. And then the other one is$136, and that should go down to about$60 in November. We'll call it$60 then. Okay. Okay, I'll give you subscriptions about$50 as well. Anything else that needs to be in your budget that is not there? Not that I can think of right now. uh let's see I'm just going through cause I got rid of Spotify the massage envy would probably reappear soon cause it's on pause right now that's$75 a month keep it on pause you can only keep it on pause for like 6 months cancel it I have like 30 credits I don't give a f*** I don't give a f*** you're losing all your money that's more important Money is more important than credits.
1:30:58But 30 credits worth of massages that I haven't used yet. Well, here's the reality. You need$4 ,515.84 to survive. So I don't give a fuck about your credits. Because even though you make a strong income, you are actually underwater on a monthly basis by$215.84. Honestly, and I don't see you picking up another job because your hours are weird. Here's the reality. here's the reality little lady you have enough money to you're going to sell your car you're going to borrow the difference of about$2 ,000 you're going to get a$10 ,000 car on a$10 ,000 loan that is going to immediately save you$20 ,000 in debt about$18 ,000 that is step one after you do that if you are still probably not going to be making it as long as you have proven you have changed your behavior multiple times where you're doing a big consolidation after you change your behavior for three months, proving it with a budget, you will do a big consolidation or you're going to do bankruptcy.
1:31:59Really? Because you can't afford this. Yeah. It is simple as this. I mean, actually, okay, hold on. Wait, pause. I remember from the beginning of the conversation you're moving back home. Yes. Are they going to require a rent? About$300. Okay, that's okay. You will have, I'm going to say about$800 left. I would still do the car thing. I would still do the car thing. It's a temporary thing for a couple of years. But with your$800 minus the student loans, minus the car, but we're adding 12 for a new car. So we're taking, okay,$67 ,054.95 minus the$30 ,892.76 car loan, but plus$12 ,000 for the new loan.
1:32:37To borrow the difference and a 10 ,000-hour car that you get approved by multiple mechanics before you purchase, that is going to be safe and reliable for just a couple years to come. $8 ,678.37 for the student loans. We're getting rid of that. That brings you down to bad debt of$39 ,483.82. Good. With the$800 left over, that's going to take 49 months. That's a long time. That's about four years. But you'll be able to scale that as well because I think you'll get pay increases. Pick up as many. Are you hourly? No. Okay. Well, you'll get pay increases. If you can find ways to pick up extra jobs and just make this a grind time, you can get it done in three years.
1:33:17But it's likely looking three to four years. and then, you know, which I know it's a little demoralizing. That's a long time. That's if you sell the car. Yes, if you don't sell the car, this is going to be like a five, six, seven year thing. I'd rather do bankruptcy and include the car in that. But no, I mean, that's your option is you have to get rid of the car and you have to move into home and grind for three years and work an extra job as well. And then about another nine months to get a fully funded emergency fund and then you can move out. So you'll be about 30, 31. Right? How old are you?
1:33:5027? Yeah. Yeah, like 31. You'll be out living an independent life, but that's okay. There's no K-pop in there. There's no fun money. I mean, I'm sorry. BTS doesn't exist when you're already underwater by$200 a month. That sucks. That's true. So that's the plan. That is the plan. I don't see other plans. It would be big consolidations, but only after changing behavior, but that doesn't get you there. That gets you$200 a month extra, maybe, which is not going to pay off that. in any substantial time frame or bankruptcy, but that f***s your credit. But closing all the cards would also mess with my credit?
1:34:27Yeah, but not as bad. Because you'll only have access to predatory loans after bankruptcy. Or just really bad loans. So that's the plan. Alright, we're going to do our Hammer Financial Score. Remember to click that Join button and join Hammer Elite The Best YouTube Membership on YouTube and join us for the post show. Apparently something is going to happen, I guess. Her friend made her come on. or her friend is convinced that he can do a better job at me. So I'm going to call him and I think we're probably going to get in an argument from the sound of it. And there's also lots of other things that didn't get brought up that we're going to talk about.
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