Debt Princess Begs Daddy To Save Her | Financial Audit

21 Oct 2024 · 1 h 29 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: Debt Princess Begs Daddy To Save Her

Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, host Caleb Hammer conducts an in-depth financial audit with Nina, a 28-year-old online health and fitness coach based in Austin, Texas. Nina shares her journey of transitioning from a corporate job to self-employment while grappling with significant financial challenges, including debt, inadequate budgeting, and reliance on family support.

Key Participants

  • Caleb Hammer: Host and financial expert.
  • Nina: Guest on the show, an online health and fitness coach.

Episode Breakdown Introduction

  • Nina's Background: Recently quit her corporate job to pursue coaching full-time, leading to financial strain.
  • Current Financial Situation: Nina has been withdrawing from her 401k to pay off credit card debt, which raises flags about her financial literacy and planning.

Financial Habits and Concerns

  • 401k Withdrawals: Nina discusses her decision to withdraw $10,000 from her retirement savings, which incurs penalties and taxes.
  • Inconsistent Income: Her monthly income fluctuates, averaging around $4,000-$5,000 but with significant expenses leading to overspending.

Overspending and Budgeting Issues

  • Spending Analysis: Nina's monthly expenditures often exceed her income, leading to reliance on credit cards and family. She spends on various non-essentials such as dining, beauty treatments, and travel.
  • Lifestyle Choices: Caleb points out that her spending on luxuries—like frequent coffee shop visits and high-end restaurants—detracts from her financial stability.

Debt Management

  • Debt Overview: Nina owes her father $4,000 and has credit card debt from various expenditures deemed unnecessary.
  • Credit Card Mismanagement: Caleb emphasizes the importance of not accumulating debt and highlights that Nina does not set aside money for taxes, putting her in a precarious financial position.

Action Plan

  • Immediate Steps: Caleb proposes that Nina should consider selling her car to eliminate debt, as her current expenses are unsustainable.
  • Budgeting Educations: He encourages her to enroll in budgeting and investing classes to better manage her finances.
  • Emergency Fund: Nina's savings are inadequate for emergencies, and Caleb stresses the importance of a fully funded emergency fund to prevent future crises.

Closing Thoughts

  • Reflection on Financial Goals: Despite expressing a desire for financial independence, Nina's current habits reflect a prioritization of lifestyle over financial security.
  • Hammer Financial Score: Nina receives a score of 1.5 out of 10, indicating severe financial mismanagement that requires urgent attention.

Key Takeaways

  • Importance of Budgeting: The discussion showcases the critical need for a well-structured budget to manage income and expenditures effectively.
  • Emergency Funds: Having an emergency fund is vital to avoid falling into debt during unforeseen circumstances.
  • Debt Management: Understanding the implications of debt and establishing a plan for repayment is essential for financial health.

Further Resources

  • Financial Audit Programs: Listeners are encouraged to explore the budgeting and investing programs offered by Caleb Hammer to improve their financial literacy.
  • Debt Management Classes: A new program focusing on managing and utilizing debt effectively is available at a limited-time discount.

Conclusion The episode underscores that financial independence requires making informed decisions, prioritizing essential expenses, and being proactive about budgeting and saving. Nina's situation serves as a cautionary tale about the consequences of poor financial habits and the importance of education in fostering a secure financial future.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. he was helping me financially as well listen if we owe a family member money we're really not doing it that's when we do not get to have any paid for fun you are grinding to pay off a family member he gave me a lot more than i asked yeah but you owe it i've been waiting for him to bring it up and he hasn't what is that what a loving daughter would do hi my name is nina i am 28 i'm based here in austin and this is financial audit thanks for coming on what do you do here in austin for a living right now thank you for having me i am an online health and fitness coach oh okay yeah i could use your help well i got you i actually just recently this year quit my corporate job and went all in on coaching and i found myself drawing money from my 401k which everybody tells me not to do well yeah no everyone tells you not to do that but they don't say why because you're pulling money from your retirement because there's a 10 penalty on the money you're pulling from retirement and if your money has gained any value which it likely has over these past couple years you're also paying capital gains tax on that money see is that a good reason have we found a reason i just gave you a reason why in my mind the math made sense if i needed 10k to get rent and groceries and all Rensing groceries?

1:26Wait, was this business not ready to go? It's complicated. Hold on. What are you making online coaching? I was with you online coaching. I was going to ask how much you make. Let's get into the conversation. How much do you make with it? So that's why it depends. Oh, good for sake. Not an answer. Okay. A non-answer. An answer is coming. So it's seasonal, my work, a little bit. Because it's - Fat in the winter, active in the summer. Is what people tend to fall into. Yes, they won't hire an online coach if they're just going to bundle up for the winter. however when I left my corporate job the season that I was in I also left a different coaching company so I was an assistant coach for somebody else and then I okay I I left those things decided to be an online coach by myself like have my own why didn't you wait for the better season because there were also like personal things happening and I really wanted to get out of that situation i went through a breakup and then my boss at the time my life is a permanent breakup we all deal with it not at the corporate job but the other coaching job that i had had that guy turned out to be terrible like a terrible human being no integrity like i think that his business is operating terrible person towards you me and the other assistant coaches okay so there was a big exodus like there's a bunch of us that left that team so it was hard to be in that position Yes.

2:51Okay. How close were you to the good season? It was February. So I knew that we were going to come into the summer months. Okay. So let's do a little rewind to about two minutes ago when you didn't answer my question. How much do you make? On average,$4 ,000 to$5 ,000 a month. Okay. If I had to summarize and average all of it. Sure. There's lower months, there's higher months. And of course, you're a business owner, so you're setting 30 % aside for taxes. Not currently. Uh-huh. Right. Yep. And how long have you been doing this? Well, the IRS loves this show. Not setting aside money for taxes? Like, how long have I been doing that?

3:27How long have you been doing this job? You're self-employed. You're business. February. Okay. So what do we do when it comes to tax season? Or just a few months, honestly? It's coming. Sure. File an extension. Sure. But what are we doing? Well, I used to use H &R Block. So I would just go through step by step. Yeah, but you're going to owe money. You're literally withdrawing, according to you, from your own savings to survive. So there's going to be no savings to pay the thousands that will be owed. No, there will be. And I also have a lot of things I can claim as well, like as an online health and fitness coach.

4:05A hundred percent of your income. A lot of it. What's a lot of it? I can claim a lot of my expenses. No, what number is a lot of it? Wait, can you ask the question again? a lot of yeah the claims that you're going to be against your taxes write-offs deductions yeah the write-offs i have travel like airfare airbnb yeah about percentage like how much of your income it's a great question i ballpark like 70 70 so you're never going to qualify for a mortgage or rent ever again why because you're basically saying your income's a thousand five hundred hours a month if you do that that's what they'll see when they look at your taxes well that's a bridge i'll cross when i get there i'm not looking to own a home anytime you'll be living under that bridge because you won't qualify for rent okay noted okay literally what would be so difficult about well okay i mean i'm gonna answer my own question it's difficult i am setting money aside in a savings i just like i you're withdrawing from your retirement funds to pay off credit cards and like kind of get ahead to feel like i'm ahead the first statement is the opposite of a head it's adding a substantial balance to a debt so in my mind i was like okay if i can take this 10k out of my 401 and pay off my credit cards and put some of that into my savings then i at least have like like dispensable cash flow.

5:41So everyone recommended against you doing this. I didn't tell anybody. I know that people say. I know it's a thing that people say. Why would it be a thing that people say without there being any reason? People say silly things all the time. Sure. Everyone agreeing on the same thing? But I'm sure that there's, it's not black and white. I'm sure there's parameters. Like, there's gray area. What would the gray area be in this context? Helping my stress. Helping me get out of, like, an immediate situation. I understand, like... Those hairs are going to turn real gray when you're trying to retire and there's zero dollars.

6:21And who knows what the f*** social security is going to look like by the time we retire. We're basically the same age. I don't know, man. I'm optimistic. Okay. Yeah, I don't think that pays for retirement. Optimism. It's not an exchangeable resource. But we'll figure it out, right? optimism. Figure it out. No, no. The people who say we'll figure it out always end up everywhere they go because they're always I'll figure it out instead of having an actual plan and actual steps along the way to get to their ultimate goal. Hopefully that's why I'm here. I would like no, no, no. Canceled. Nope. And I announced this in the episode that we recorded yesterday.

6:57So I know it's not out for you. Stop. You can go to Calebhammer.com slash apply. Come on the show. Absolutely. Stop with the that's why I'm here. That's why everyone's here. That is not an excuse to get out of a little bit of pushback and trying to explain your situation. That's why everyone is here. Okay. So no, that is not going to be a get out of jail free card. All right. I'm trying to get out of jail, but I understand it's not free. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. I'd love self-assess. Where do you think you are in your finances today? Zero being the absolute worst that you can possibly think of. Ten being the absolute best you can possibly think of.

7:32Where do you think you are? I'd say six. Pulling from retirement and you think you're above average. I don't know what the f*** is going on. If you want your hammer financial score, it's free. Link in the description below. You won't be led to an idiotic answer like that. Okay. Would you like to explain? I think my finances are... You're pulling from retirement to live. You're pulling from retirement to live. That's it? That's it? And you think you're above a solid five? Yes, I do.

8:04At least I have a retirement. And I didn't pull the whole thing. Yeah. You'll be on that way. Continuing. What's your rent? Base rent,$1 ,771. Okay. $3 ,150 is what you'll probably have left on average after you set aside money for taxes. So$1 ,700? Yes. Okay. Yeah. 54 % of your net. So you're going to be pulling from retirement soon. Well, so my job as an online health and fitness coach, as I grow my roster, as I get more clients, my income does increase. So the amount of work and output. What? When you get more clients in a business, you might make more money? Yes. Yes. That is the hope, and I root for that.

8:51I hope so. I don't want you to have a failing business. I don't want that either. But that's different. That's not the answer necessarily. One, lots of behavior. You withdrew$3 ,800 this month from retirement. it's most recent month, the month of the statements that we have, and your spending is absolutely ridiculous. You're not going to go get more clients your way out of this thing. That's not how this is going to work. So total income that came in from business was$6 ,586. So it was a good month on your average scale. How much money do you think was spent total across all the board? This includes debt going up as well.

9:27But how much was spent? This month. Sorry,$9 ,000 from retirement. I probably broke even, probably$6 ,000. yeah you spent 17 ,244 so I don't know what the f*** you're talking about I don't know what you mean I'm just going to go get more clients you're going and getting more clients on what is considered a good month there and it's the triple I don't even know how that's possible I just don't see how that's possible how did I spend that much that's an interesting little are you sure it was 17 ,000 it wasn't 7 ,000 that's just yep i do uh notoriously ken reed well i mean three thousand dollars alone three thousand dollars alone or half of what you brought in for sitting inside money for taxes it's all spent on miscellaneous bullshit it's like it could be a video game it could be buying gems you know it could be just a random random anythings just miscellaneous bs it depends what that is because well no and we'll go through it but it's miscellaneous either way is that stuff like we've put things that were needs in variety purchases essentially in your large things like that might be more business and there's six thousand dollars there but the miscellaneous that is not needed for your business that's not needed for your life it is those extra little pleasures it's not even going out to eat going out to eat you spend 674 dollars 10 percent if you're pre-tax you're just going out to eat I don't generally go out to eat what are you talking about the number is here the number is literally here it is literally right in front of me I see that I see that I guess it's just really surprising to me because I I would what you bougie with your meals I don't go out to eat that often I guess well dude is it more expensive meals less frequently maybe yeah yeah okay

11:31do you have at least you've been doing this for quite a few months now what nine so we'd be in our ninth month for you do you have your business and personal separated no okay then what are we doing it's gonna be yeah taxes are gonna come soon but not only that in order to calculate them going through this is going to be an absolute mess do you have an llc formed for a pass-through yes okay then just open a business checking account it takes about two seconds okay just have all your expenses go through there have your distributions to yourself go through there so well i coach like i'm a head coach for a formed team hold on is this an independent business or are you employed are you a contractor i think you would yeah i think you would i think you would construe me as a contractor okay so you're being contracted out for this it's not saying you're not a business but it's not you personally like i have an llc but i i do not run my business through that i run it with my friend she has the established llc why would it be with your friend well she does she pay you yes well so you're not even the boss you're employed by her yeah okay so you're just employed by someone else what are you talking about you said you left to start your own little thing what well i this is a this makes no sense so far so i left like a a coaching team that has like 12 coaches on staff and so now it's like my friend has her coaching team and i coach with her but i'm like her head coach okay and you think you bring in four to five thousand hours a month yeah and i assume if you are being paid i don't you don't know if you're are you being contracted by her are you being paid like an employee i don't know what the tax form it's like a 1099 is that what you are i think so okay cool well there you go so you need to be setting money aside for taxes because she ain't doing it for you which i guess in my mind is why i wanted to like withdraw that amount from my 401 so that i could have what that's going to be an extra massive tax hit if it wasn't done preemptively well it was done preemptively so that's that's why it was it's 9 000 that was deposited in my account because the government took a thousand because i actually took out 10 okay but you probably have there probably be taxes on any capital gains in there you got your penalty hit yeah so i took that also you can even usually most people what they do if they really need to take money from retirement they borrow against their portfolio not saying i want you to do that but you can take like a 401k loan so at least it's growing while it's still in there and hopefully you're at a low interest thing i'm not saying do this by the way but it's usually much better than getting a 10 penalty plus camper gains maybe you're getting like a full 25 tax in the end across everything potentially 20 who knows where maybe the 401k loan could be like five percent what's a bigger number give you a hint 20 yeah i guess i just feel i did i didn't fully understand like so why'd you do something why'd you do it then why would you just gut do it instead of at least ask one person including gpt she would have told you if you're a business owner and you're fed up with your current business bank, whether it's the endless fees, the unintuitive nature of the platform, or the lack of modern features, then it's time to bank with Relay.

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16:11I didn't know what to do. It's a whole process. You didn't Just instantly do it. No, I thought about it, but I... Okay. Right. Well, Southwest Rapid Rewards.

16:26Here alone, you spent more than you brought in. Here alone. $7 ,112. I use that card as my quote-unquote business card. Congratulations. Then your business is f***ing. You're spending more than you bring in. what are you amazon you're getting seed funding you don't need to run a proffer for decades i don't know what that means no i use it for like flights and all the stuff that i do so like wonderful yeah how about making money not this that's what i'm trying to do with it like i travel to bodybuilding shows for my athletes and like how do we pay for 1700 rent then if our expenses to run the business are 1500 on average more oh by the way i'm just one car to because we have many more to go through.

17:13I do have another card. There's a lot of accounts to go through here, okay? It's going to be more than that. Spending across the board. I figured I could write it off. It's more than you even make. And again, are you classifying everything properly? Like, you're going to have to pay an accountant to go through everything. Or you're just going to put yourself at risk of being audited. Very low chance. Very low chance, but at risk. Amazon. I'd like to see your Amazon. at Starbucks record ATX. That's for my podcast. You have a podcast. I do. Okay. For someone that's on a podcast, you're not very talkative.

17:52Well, you're not giving me a lot of room here. Okay. So the podcast podcast about it's a fitness based podcast and it's a way that I bring athletes in. So that's why I put on my business. What's your listenership? Like my audience or the numbers per episode average. uh youtube 800 okay and spotify and apple pod i get a lot more streams on there but like total listens i i hit over a hundred thousand streams congratulations that's sick so that actually could be a potential way to bring in some clients good i was gonna say if we're hitting like 20 i'm like you know is that like the money we're putting in i'll go wait wait why is the podcast what is the record atx 264 that's not paying for it but you know it's not paying for itself no so what are you using someone else's studio yeah film out of your house dude who cares it's a starting little podcast get a couple mics hold it up to your face i like it so i i do it out of studio so i can clip it for social media oh i'm sure you spend 1500 more than you make yes it's all gonna pay off in the end though with the clips guys gotta get the clips i'll get the clips high quality stuff it brings people in sure it does but you can make a cute little corner in your apartment it's not a apartment it's 1700 a month get some plants have the light on them make a little corner get a couple hundred dollar microphones and just record from home yeah won't the like how since this started how most of everyone's podcast started but because i already started in a studio like it feels like a step back depends okay show me a picture show me a picture go ahead show me a clip let me see a clip i want to see a clip let's have a little clip we don't let people plug so no one will be able to see it but i just want to see my phone off turn it on okay one button maneuver this is not paying for itself that's the issue also why do we have went rent with jaw 3800 are you paying the full and someone pays you half how does it work oh i double paid on accident i know i don't know how i did that i think i i submitted i think the website like glitched out when i was paying my rent because i accidentally overpaid my rent so i didn't have to pay the gram the gram's being pulled up let's see all right let me see this studio space four thousand five hundred dollars okay so those little wooden planks here i'm gonna take a screenshot and we're gonna uh you can send that to us and we're gonna just black out your name um uh for the background those wooden planks so easy to just set up at your little at your place in the background now there are a bit more texture is that your logo yes okay so maybe you could get a tv above it this isn't incredibly hard i do see what you're saying it is nice it does look nice these are a couple hundred bucks but again you know these you know it's just one of your rents and you're investing it for you to own but really the rest of this is just some led lighting dude and that is not that hard that is not that hard look look at that light right there I could turn that purple right now and it would be fine.

20:59And also the texture changed in the next one anyway. You got a little target lamp there in this one. They have different rooms that they will assign based on what's available. You could do this yourself. I'm sorry, you could do this yourself. It would be a little investment. It would, but you'd own it and you would never have to pay ongoing rent for it. I do like it. And also, no offense. I mean, so sometimes it's hard for us to know this for a fact in the world of creative. But there is kind of the idea that it looking nice helps people stick around for like the first couple seconds. But after that, it's not about that.

21:37It's whether or not the content is good. So people are more instinctively click off if it looks like in the beginning. But as long as they stay for a few seconds, as long as it's entertaining and educational, it really doesn't matter. I mean, I'm willing to give it a try. I'll do it. I like the convenience of the studio well you love the convenience of Starbucks because you go there every second of your life and apparently that's a business expense for health and fitness so I do a giveaway with my athletes every month like a monthly giveaway so I'll give away Starbucks gift cards what just why though why do you need to people want to get healthy and fit do you need to be doing this well I want to cultivate community and a good way to do that is gift cards yeah with my athletes they appreciate it it's how I'm growing the team it's how I'm creating community so yeah but think of something like hold on hold on hold on hold on you know we i don't want to keep just keep comparing things so since we're talking about that i know the world of community and a lot of things like we're working on more of the membership things here because it just helps us and stable up and downs and what we're going to be doing is people that were members for over a year i'm like getting a handwritten letter and sending to them something much more personal we can build community with things that you can do that are more affordable and in your in your budget that's the thing in your budget i see you wanting to say something but in your budget you can do things that cultivate community without spending money you literally do not have i talk to them every week so that's what i was going to say is like i these are my athletes i have check-ins with them like i have touch points with them i i'm literally more talking to them personal i understand that i think it's nice to have like the monthly challenges to give them something to strive for so there's a challenge they have to win through a challenge Yeah, like it'll be a gift card.

23:14They'll win the challenge. Well, it's not my biggest gripe here, but Starbucks continues. Is every single one of these a gift card? Because it's Starbucks, Amazon, Starbucks, Starbucks, Record ATX, or Record ATX. That's another expensive thing. Starbucks, Starbucks, Kettle Fire, Beacons AI. My monthly newsletter that I send out, and it's like the link in bio. Amazon, Record ATX. This isn't a monthly fee. You go in there and pay that every time. Yeah. Buddy, you could build your own set for the price that you spent in one month because you spent so much there. It's$200 for an hour. Are you kidding me?

23:50How many do you film a month? Four. Take that. Build your own little set. You already have a TV. Move it over. You'll be fine. I don't have a TV, actually. Okay. Join us in the 21st century and get a$300 TV.

24:04Amazon, Starbucks, Amazon. interest charges here so far $489 $149 of fees fees you're having missed payments fees what are there fees you have fees up the butt this is just fee central $149 fees this year I didn't realize that I'm not gonna I don't know my producer's just saying you go to coffee shops to work and buy coffee every day doesn't sound like only gift cards sounds like you're trying to bullshit no this the Starbucks is so what are the other ones then so you still go to coffee shops and buy coffee every single day i do because you can't work without that uh definitely can't work in our 1700 hour a month place i have i guess there's i have a hard time focusing at home why you have no tv to distract you i'm on a i'm a bodybuilder i'm on a diet and if i'm at home for too long i just like go check the cupboard in the fridge over and over oh i like to get out of the house and you know what they tell fat like me make sure there's not things in the cupboard and fridge.

25:05I mean, there's no snacks in there. Okay, but getting coffee, like, you cannot afford it, though, is the thing. That's all I'm trying to say. There's alternatives than going and spending money we literally do not have every day. I'm not against it. Dude, budget, have a good retirement, have a fully funded emergency fund, go get your coffee, get your sweet treat. Absolutely. You know, 50, 30, 20, 50 % of needs, 30 % of wants. I want you to spend that money. You're pulling out of retirement. F*** your coffee. how about let's have a chance to survive in the end sorry for interrupting you i keep wanting to say something the moment you start no i i think that i i just think it's to like go to a coffee shop and use their free wi-fi and work go to a park a park doesn't have wi-fi i need internet use your phone what are you talking about you have service it drains my battery the hot spot only lasts for like an hour from home work from the austin public library it's very nice I have to speak out loud.

26:01I've been at the Austin Public Library. Then I will bring us back to solution number one. Work from home. I get distracted. I have to like, I can work from home until a certain point, but I really like my routine. And like also. Yes, that's what it is. You like it. Let's be honest about it. You like it. You like the routine. I'd like it too. But again, it is literal math. You can't afford it. Like it is really as simple as that. one card one single account here you spend fifteen hundred dollars more than you brought in on in your normal month sorry that's not true two thousand five hundred right yeah two thousand five hundred dollars more than you bring in a normal month i don't i guess i just don't keep track of my money that way like i oh in the mathematical way well because if i get a new client and they do a paid in full that's like a cash injection so it to me it depends on the month like the that to me we saw how much money you brought in this month it was 6 500 and you spent seven so this still doesn't make sense that's an invalid statement you just don't know how to budget go through our budgeting program you get it for free by being a guest on the show go through it go through the investing one as well because we'll tell you not to be a with your investing like you're doing right now.

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29:15So far for this year, but that doesn't mean that I can't reach like 10k recurring months. Oh, because at some point in my life, I might make a billion dollars. I might as well go get a yacht, right? Maybe. No, that's stupid. That'll make me die in poverty. That's where you're headed. You'd have fun on the yacht though. Yeah. Until it got repoed after one day the best day of your life yeah until you get evicted from your apartment because you can't pay it but that won't happen what says who you spend more than you make what are you talking about you're just gonna miss it one day unless you have a great support system that'll just enable you in your bad behavior what's your car by the way minimum fee payment on the last one i didn't say it uh minimum fee payment is 40 bucks okay what's your car my car payment's 384 a month no what's your car oh volkswagen year model 2018 white tiguan okay you uh carmax

30:21carmax is it's always so much more expensive than the real value of the car and there's no negotiation you can do on it it's a 10.95 interest rate so for example here's i just your brokerage I don't even remember what it was, but I opened my brokerage, Moo Moo. I go ahead. I buy some S &P 500 just following the overall market, U.S. economy, best businesses. I do that. Best I'm hoping for in return on an annual basis, all up years, down years combined, is about 10%. Your interest rate on this is higher, meaning no matter, essentially, if you're investing in what is one of the most stable investments, you're still losing money.

30:57I was in a tough spot when I got that car. Go on. That's why I did it. so at the time i didn't have a car i was using my boyfriend's and his kept breaking down all the time like literally in the middle of the intersection his truck would just break down and so i was like i just need to get my own car because i needed that independent i was in um that time oh now that's fair what part of town are you in now uh like off no longer fair you have good public transportation you are before you didn't we bleeped the areas but in the first part yeah you actually wouldn't be able to get anywhere we were living and like that's why i needed okay i can fight with that uh what was the purchase price of the car 27 okay you did not need a 27 000 car you could have got a 10 000 car so i mean sympathy eroded right you had me for a second back then i had my corporate job and i was coaching on the side so i had but you still didn't need to get that you still could have got a cheaper car and then paid it off quicker and then all of a sudden you essentially would have had a cash car paid for car limited risk over your head this doesn't make sense what were you making what were you making uh 80 000 for my corporate and then i was getting like two to three from coaching like per month i mean um but i i wanted like a bigger car so that it's like a it's like a lots of wants it's size suv well yeah cool now you can run over children more effectively what i had two dogs so i want enough room i've put two dogs in sedans many a times it's terrible they just pant in your ear it's horrible to drive with oh no the existence of the dogs i love i want to be able to drive without them like being in my space so i got a big enough car that I could put them in the back.

32:46Want, want, want, want, want. Pull from retirement. Want, want, want. Our entire future. Want, want, want. Your life is wants. I would prefer that you want to live a halfway decent, successful, safe, secure life. I do want those things. Retirement and a good business. No, you don't. Your actions aren't supporting that statement in any way whatsoever. Not at all. If you wanted it, I'd see some actions. There's no actions. I do want that. No, you don't. I do. The numbers would support it. They don't. You might want it, but you clearly want the wants more than that. I think that there's enough like.

33:23I want to be skinny, but I want the crumble cookies out there a bit more. So there is the level. See, but I get that. Like I practice discipline and things all throughout my life. So that's. Except for your finances. That's the thing that shows. That's an area of improvement. But that's what like. That's why I'm here. I genuinely want to improve Again that's not a thing I genuinely want to learn like how to improve Well and obviously we'll get there And that's what we're doing but we're sorting through Where your behavior is where your mindset is And so far your mindset's in an area Where if we give you a path to improve Doesn't lead to success The I had to get an SUV So I didn't hear panting I don't give a f*** How much we get something we can afford I thought I could afford that When money comes in, I'm able to justify these expenses because more money might come in.

34:15It's like, this is not how we're running a business.

34:21Okay. $13 ,931.13. 10 point. What was it? It was like a 10.9 % interest rate. Minimum fee payment,$384.16. The car's worth$11 ,000. So yeah, about a 2 ,500 bucks off. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you know what that means? no can you explain that to me if you sold it you need an extra$2 ,500 to pay off the loan it's worth less than you owe on it for what it's worth that's most cars and most loans that's not a uniquely you thing but I'm a little terrified that you didn't even know the existence of that or even what that meant I didn't know what that meant that is a bummer oh it's a bummer big bummer alright what's fnbo first national bank of omaha it's my bank out of colorado is that where you're from uh it's where i lived for a long time yeah okay so this is your credit card with them your lovely personal bank lending you money and interest no interest actually this isn't an interest of your period or do you pay this off every month i try to pay that one off every month what is try i does that mean you don't always pay it off yes like 90 of the time it's paid off you're not a credit card person you're not a credit card person you can't you listen it is okay that you're not a credit card person not everyone is you don't need to use a credit card it's a great perk it's a great tool if you're disciplined enough to use it if we don't always pay it off you're not a credit card person i think the the kind of cards that i recommend for people like you are the fizz card it's the kind of card where you put money on it then you can only spend what is on it and then you still get the the the credit card rewards and you still get improvements your credit score so i like those you if you cannot pay off a credit card you are not a credit card person you should not have a credit card because you do not know how to manage other people's money why do people say to use credit cards then that's what i don't understand one americans are morons with finances we have record high credit card debt record high consumer debt so i don't really give a and two i would say use credit cards because you do get cash back there are good bonuses but that is if you manage them correctly i would say use credit cards and then the part you close your ears to is if you can pay them off in time always so it's like a tool that you can use yes but also yourself with in an unpleasant way yes it's a bad tool okay I can get behind that it's like the scale you can step on the scale and it can either motivate you or it can make you want to give up and go eat more so I get it, I understand that it's like a tool I just I feel like I don't have good financial literacy no, so you're not a credit card person and that's okay it's okay to not be a credit card person you don't need to be, who cares what about the perks?

37:18what perks? you're losing money and interest yeah, what cash back? you're losing it and interest Cash back's probably 1 % or 2%. You lose 30%. I'll ask you again. What's the bigger number? 1 % or 30 %? 30%. Okay. Target. What's astound? Astound. What's astound? 62 bucks. Electric or Wi-Fi? Something like that. Astound. Okay. Target. You're going to your Target only spending a few bucks, so you're just going in and getting some bulls**t, likely. Flower market. Great. Med spa. $600. You can't afford to survive. who the f*** are you going to MedSpot$600 it's part of my business what I'm like a I'm a public figure like a health and fitness coach a professional bodybuilder like I have to keep my appearance up so that's what that was put some chop that up the pre pickle and put it on your eyes at home it's not the same also known as a cucumber okay as a bodybuilder All right, guys.

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40:13like you can't your debt is getting worse your debt is getting worse you cannot afford it like where do we go you know where do we go when we just can't afford it like what how do we improve from there also you can get a massage for like 75 bucks why don't you go every other week 75 bucks is cheaper 150 bucks instead of 600 because it's not a massage i needed botox oh this is botox sorry i don't yeah i think i glossed over that it's you need botox i wanted it i wanted botox so that my face didn't change so drastically get an ugly face who cares um not actually uh but was that is that well first of all did you did the doctor tell you to do this medically diagnosed no but for me like okay then i don't give a do what a doctor says i like botox nails waxing hair like this upkeep it's important to me sure like it's not just well i have a tp fund i want it it's i i i need hold on let's not put botox in the same scale as hails and net nails and hair i will support you know things for self-confidence absolutely but again but this is coming down to you literally cannot afford this we can we can probably get you a haircut every once in a while absolutely we can afford that and in the tp fund in the end of the budget we'll have room for nails absolutely are you going to go super extravagant not necessarily but maintenance and just looking good sure 600 botox is not the same it's self-care to me your self-care how about your self-care being able to literally be able to have a healthy retirement again i don't think people like you understand this.

41:59I really don't. What happens when you get to retirement with only like$50 ,000? You're not going to be able to do anything and who knows what social security is going to look like. It won't matter the amount of Botox you had at that point. If you can't seriously afford to put a roof over your head, it won't matter if you are stressing and not able to sleep in your retirement years. If you are able to retire because you had a little less Botox and you're able to live a good self-esteem to retirement in dignity, I am okay with being the bad guy saying you're not allowed to get a couple of Botox injections.

42:32Okay? Seeing you live an actual good, decent life. See, I disagree. Like, I think. Oh, go on. There's so much. Let's have some logic. I have so much time. It's not like I'm retiring tomorrow. No, no. No, you little s***. That's not how this works. That's not how this works. You know what time is? Time is compound growth in the market. The only reason people are able to retire by having a million dollar nest egg is because they put in a little bit amount of money when they were younger. You're already finishing your best decade of growth for compound or best decade of best decade in your life for compound growth.

43:10You're entering your second best decade. This is giving you time and put in 50 bucks. Now it becomes, you know, a couple hundred bucks, put in 50 bucks when you're in 50. It's only going to become like fifty five dollars. It's completely different. Time is what you need. Giving up time is giving up your retirement. If you're not investing in your 20s and your 30s, you're done. You're going to have to play major catch up. Your catch up that you're going to have to do is investing like 60 % of your income. It's going to be something crazy that's going to be unsustainable. So that's completely wrong.

43:42That's only if I continue in this trajectory. Huh? But to me, like I still - So we're banking on the hope. Again, I can not invest in retirement because I'm going to be a billionaire someday. Yeah. No, that's the dumbest thing. Again. I mean, Austin, like you never know who you're going to meet here. You think you're going to meet Joe Rogan? All of a sudden you're going to look young forever? Well, I just think the upkeep of my appearance is important for my business. Dude, I'm not saying you become an ugly f***er. No one's saying that. And also talk to a doctor about that. If that is an actual thing that they are saying, you are doing this on your own.

44:24Yes. I'd support it more if this was a medical diagnosis that they're like, you know, because of this, I want you to do this from under medical supervision. I mean, you could. Like, you could say that, like, your masseters cause headaches. I would want a doctor to be guiding you through this instead of your own little GPT with money you don't have. It's not like it's a monthly expense either, though. like that the botox lasts me a while no i know but you just can't afford how do you i i'm uh part of this conversation is going to be this part of the conversation is really difficult for me because i seriously i don't think i could just get into your head this is the concept of like you literally could not afford this you did not have the money to pay for it like you could not afford it it's as simple as that again i would not care about the botox if you could afford it it's a different situation it's as simple as you could not afford it and you're banking it on getting botox and birthing elon musk 40th child in austin to make it like

45:31okay you're going to dutch bros as well you know it's that important eating of the draw one-way coffee north coast music north coast music north coast music north coast music north North Coast music, North Coast music. What the f*** is going on? I went to a music festival with my best friend. You don't know. You don't know the life of saying no. You don't know the life of delayed gratification. You do not know the life of financial sacrifice. You're willing to take a step back from your better paid job to make it more on your own, but you're not willing to cut back your lifestyle. And that is going to destroy you.

46:18And you have no idea this bond that you are building right now. To be fair, this was my first ever three-day music festival. To be fair, I don't give a... I've never been to a festival before. I don't understand. How does that... Literally, how does that... How does that possibly combat anything I just said? It doesn't. Guess what? I'm going to a music festival tomorrow, and if I didn't have money to do it, I wouldn't care if it was my first or fifth. It doesn't matter. I'm just trying to explain like my thought process behind why I did go. And it was incorrect. It was my best friend. Like she and I.

46:51She going to die tomorrow. She have like stage a million cancer patient. No. Okay. Then we can go next year. Well, it sounds good when you say it like that. But like she. Yeah. When you use two seconds to think. She really wanted to do this festival. And like friendship is really important to me. Cool. Yeah. Will she be your friends three days after it's done? Yes. Okay, then it doesn't matter. Take her for coffee. No shit. It's also about the fact that she... Well, she doesn't live here. She lives in Florida. So we planned to go to this music festival. It's also about the fact that you literally cannot afford it.

47:25That is all this comes down to. I am not against this as a concept. Again, I am going to Austin... Austin... What is it? Austin City Limits Live. like i'm doing that these next few days with my friends i'm excited it'll be fun chaparone beautiful especially in the green costume um and she's my lesbian wife she just doesn't know it the thing is i can i'm doing it because i can afford it if i couldn't afford it i i would be doing a little bit of sacrifice so i guess i was hoping like up until that point that i would be able to afford it like my my hope was that i would get like new clients and i would have more that's interesting so maybe our little maybe maybe your little concept of i'll be able to afford it in the future didn't work so why is it going to work in the why is it going to work now you so you're still living that mindset that's how you've been able to back up all your spending so far because you're going to make more in the future but you literally have an example right here where you thought you were going to make more than you did you didn't now all of a sudden we're putting out a credit card it's about more than we make you've proved it what are you doing the definition of insanity same thing over and over again is that what your life is is that what you're trying to do it's not what i'm trying to do okay well it's what you're doing it's what it looks like but i are have you had dumbbells hit your head not recently okay what do you mean that's what it looks like but it's not what it is how does that stand up to me like the experiences that you have in life are more important than worrying about like the day-to-day okay minutiae and so i like no you know what and that is fine so we're done then right so we're done that that's okay that's okay if that is how you want to live your life that is okay i support whoa hold on hold on i support anyone deciding to live their life however they want to as long as it doesn't directly hurt someone else if that is how you want to live your life that's perfectly fine.

49:24Here, the intent behind here is to learn how to manage our finances so that we can have a chance for decent retirement, building a business, whatever it is you want to do. That's what we do here. If to you, living life is more important than that in terms of getting the instant gratification of fun, fine. That's okay. But that means this is done. That means this conversation is done. That means there is no point of this because you are not ready for this. That means you don't care about this enough you care about the other thing more i do care i i guess i'm not more

49:59you care more about the experience of going out and around i i want both you can't have it that's not how life works sometimes you need a little bit of sacrifice especially while you take a pay cut in half in order to have your own business sometimes you have to have a little bit of a sacrifice just a little bit even a little bit of a sacrifice so that you have a better chance of success in the future and that's okay it's okay to have delayed gratification huh i can do that i can then why haven't you

50:36it's the question they can never answer i haven't had any you're going to miami oh you already did hold on you went on a 3 000 hour trip just a couple months ago i did it was that's basically your monthly it was my best friend's birthday and yeah we never have any of those she had a hard year i wanted to what was her hard year she went through a really hard breakup she moved from New York to Houston and she was a tragedy she just had a lot of things happen in her personal life and she deserved a fun birthday okay could she have come to you come to you also four thousand dollars is not required to get to Florida it's like that's the crazy part if it was like I was seeing like a 500 hour thing would I be happy no but it is very different than four thousand dollars she's what did you get her like 50 strippers to make her a year better no she's a bougie friend we went out to a lot of like high expensive i don't think she's bougie because you were spending all the money i guess like i am too when it comes to my friends but uh-huh like i paid for the hotel oh dinner oh and we went to high-end restaurants oh we're like four or five so again that is what you choose over having any financial security ever having a successful business over having any chance of retirement that is what you choose is a bougie lifestyle that you can't afford i think you're entitled to it i mean you're not to be very clear you're not no if you can't afford it you can't necessarily get it unless you're putting it on debt and that's what you're doing yeah because you're born doesn't mean oh here's a one-way ticket to go and get a michelin michelin star meal every night i don't i don't think i'm entitled to it i i genuinely just like treating my friends that's what i that's what i thought of it's a loving spirit like i didn't try to think about the money aspect of it i was just trying to think about how i could make it memorable yeah well i love the heart of it i love the heart of it i like to the this is you know get things got the office you know cookies today i like to you know whatever whatever the random thing is you know sometimes i just uh pay for dinner we went to dinner a few weeks ago and paid for dinner you know i like to do it as well it's fun it's fun you know when you're in a blessed position that is like truly just blessings and just that you just kind of stumble into you're like just lucky it's like yeah you want to just when you want to treat the people around you that you love yeah that's great again this comes down to the thing i've mentioned multiple times in this conversation almost more than any you just couldn't afford it and that's all that's that's how it works in the end there is a mathematical equation here of one minus one equals zero and you you know yeah i know so like you just couldn't afford it

53:48i i'm hearing it yeah but will your actions reflect you hearing it that's what i'm worried about oh and be glamorous 276 what is this um where was the botox this time i think that was hair haircut and got our in-flight wi-fi It would be a shame if over the Gulf of Mexico we couldn't scroll through TikTok. I was trying to work on the plane. Your work is work from anywhere. You could have waited. Oh, FNBO again. Oh, is this a checking account? So is this all your debt? Perhaps, yeah. What is it? Car cards? Southwest. Yeah. Volkswagen. FNBO. I owe my dad$4 ,000. Why? Why? Listen, if we owe a family member money, we're really not doing it because that's personal.

54:39That's when we do not get to have any paid for fund. You are grinding to pay off a family member. Why do you owe your dad? Why do you owe your dad$4 ,000? So when I quit my jobs in February, I was also living downtown in a place that I could no longer afford. So I needed to move. okay um and i had also just gone through that breakups and the breakup breakups are sad but that doesn't mean we just destroy our lives no no i 100 i agree i just like to be totally transparent like he was helping me financially as well okay okay so he no longer was doing that that that's valid and then yeah i needed to like move out of my little less valid because you should have had an emergency fund and we don't quit a job before we have an emergency fund and your emergency fund would have been able to cover a breakup but i do get it yes so i i called my dad and i only asked for enough to like cover getting out of my lease and getting into a new cheaper lease but he he gave me a lot more than i asked for yeah but you owe it i do so it's not gave he you've lended he lended you have like a minimum monthly payment set up hopefully it's zero percent interest no he has not asked me for repayment yet okay what is the conversation around this been then the future of this i i've been waiting for him to bring it up and he hasn't so what is that what a loving daughter would do no i mean my plan was to try and see him at christmas i haven't seen him wait when was this when did you borrow this back in february i wanted well i wanted to see him in person and like talk to him about it but i've where is he uh he's in california okay make a phone call do it okay sometimes we call people in the post show maybe we'll do that

56:44okay have you borrowed money from your dad in the past or is this the first time uh this was the first time okay you borrowed money from friends or family in the past? No, normally friends borrow from me. It's okay to fall back on loved ones. It is okay to have a good support system when going through a hard time. But again, you did quit this job without an emergency fund or any plan. I understand the job wasn't great and we probably didn't work with someone great, but then we're also getting a replacement job at the time or working a few jobs to make ourselves survive. You wanted to run the dream of you owning your own business and you put that desire above being able to pay your bills to be a responsible adult yeah and again the breakup that's something we can't control but again that's where an emergency fund comes in really does that's why i always say it's so much risk to have so much dependency on someone that you're not married to because you never know what's gonna happen deaths happen breakups happen yeah okay so in this checking account it's almost four thousand bucks for this show that's incredible actually i would just say that's incredible that's great i think that's my emergency fund in a checking account well i have an account where we're spending money no okay that's not an emergency fund you put it separate you only touch it in the case of a emergency oh okay yes i'm gonna just you know what every guest on here gets a certification free thanks to course careers they're great they help people get jobs but obviously you already have the job but you should get the accounting certification so you can learn how to do accounting of your own business okay so just take it okay i can do that life hack wellness Oh,$95.

58:39Oh, I read the balance. Okay. What is it? Is it your gym? What is it called? Life hack wellness. Life hack wellness. Oh, come on. You're spending$100 on it. You don't know what it is. You don't have money. Also, you started with$1 ,000. So that's not an emergency fund. That wasn't stagnant. Maybe it's like an IV. Oh, hold on. Hold on. That's an important thing to note. You started with$1 ,000. At the time of the statement, it ended at four. But that doesn't mean it didn't go down to one. I'd consider it that savings account that you were saying if it was starting and ending about the same but I think we just got lucky at the time that the statement was pulled oh maybe I just got paid okay I have two checking accounts and then one savings account so they're I'm not sure which one you're looking at but I use I told you FNBO okay okay and then you know we stopped in probably get a little drink from Publix Netflix subscription Apple in-app something some bull raw sport supplement 151 that's like my vitamins and supplements and stuff which is great but the thing is listen maybe this business is too expensive for you to do maybe you're not charging enough maybe you don't have enough clients maybe your business isn't good enough because again it's not like some of these are invalid right they're just not paying the bills i get that i i use those specific supplements because i'm hoping to get like a sponsorship with them so i've i've been like i've been using those supplements for a while and it's an investment into my health that part i'm okay with no you don't use them with the hope of getting a sponsorship i'd probably connect to an agency have them because they have representatives that will go get you brands that you feel comfortable with you're not using a brand hoping to get a well you you can't get a brand sponsorship like in fitness if you aren't using their products that's like well no you usually use it after you get the brand partnership yeah but that's not authentic that's like not genuine you wouldn't of course you would sign with a company no no no no you absolutely test we test everything okay as well but you are literally saying that you're only having this very expensive thing that you can't afford with the hope of getting the partnership i'm not saying don't get a partnership unless you test it or without testing i'm not saying that but you're using this so that you can get a partnership that's not usually the path to a guaranteed partnership you need someone on your behalf going out there and hounding okay that's that's fair i get that i was just saying like i'm using it because i'm trying to open that door of opportunity guys for just a few weeks only our brand new debt class is 35 off and the first 5 000 people that sign up are going to get access to a private live stream with me where I break down how I got out of every single cent of bad debt I was in.

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1:06:13Apple bill, Venmo payment,$20.42. Doubt you know where that went because you didn't know where$1 ,000 went. Lyft, more Lyft. Ulta, got to look fresh and pretty. You know, it's all about that social media. Airport, Dunkin' Donut. Apple cashed that out. Went inside, got some BS. Venmo,$300. I'm not even going to ask. Farmer's dog, Apple bill, Lyft. Kidder Clibs? clips oh kidder clips is that grooming i honestly oh my you don't know one thing you do not know one single thing about your own purchases this is crazy it might be like also why do you lift everywhere hair stuff where do you lift everywhere because i thought this is going to be one or two times but it's lift lift lift lift four more times in this i might have been traveling so like i was lifting to and from the airports and whatnot you probably can't afford to travel No, you can't afford the travel.

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1:07:26Okay. The other checking account is just money back and forth. Yeah. I think this is what you're saying is your emergency fund because there's$4 ,000 here. It's like in and out, yeah. Oh, but that's not our emergency phone because it started, again, with like$2 ,000. So it's not consistent. Then$200 in this one is just money back and forth. Oh, good. The retirement accounts.

1:07:51Violent crown? What is that, the violet crown? $240? Oh, that's waxing. Oh, that you were saying it was a movie theater, but it's getting your a** bare? Great. Well, it's like my face, my armpits. It's everything. it's not 240 for just one waxing service yeah there's a lot I don't know holes are expensive thousand dollars in this fidelity account great and 24 ,000 in this one oh beginning 34 ,000 for sake where was it at its peak where was it at its peak I don't want to tell you where was it at its peak 45 ,000 you're gonna you're just ruining your life you're ruining your life we're borrowing to spend more on credit cards buying from our parents giving other people money spending money on bull can't justify our business expenses at all because we don't make enough to justify it and if you write it all off you're writing off more than you even make so it doesn't even matter while also training our retirement by half.

1:09:00I don't know. I don't know. Let's see where you're at, dude. What's your rent again? $27? $17.75. $17.75? Okay, utilities altogether, including internet? Probably like$200. Okay. Phone bill? $85. Do you owe on your phone?

1:09:24I don't think so. Switch to helium. 15 bucks a month same towers as t-mobile please okay will you do that helium yes helium okay 15 hours a month i can put that in your budget thank you gas room from drive drive like 35 bucks a month i fill it up like once i don't drive very much oh it's because you lift everywhere okay i'm not putting that in your budget okay then you definitely don't need a car we're probably gonna sell it like actually legitimately we might sell it lift if you need to in the extreme cases. Right? Are we willing to do that? You do not need your car. I know what part of town you live in.

1:10:04Totally fine. If you need to catch a bus somewhere, it's totally okay. Even get your, you're relatively close to the train as well, which will take you north. If you need to go north, if you need to go to the domain or Cedar Park for some reason. I only really drive to like gyms. Exactly. So we're good. Ride a bike. Right? We can sell our car? Please? Would I not? What did you say about my car, though? If I sell it, I still go on the wall. You're about 2 ,500 under, but which one's a bigger number, 13 ,000 or 2 ,500? Yeah, I'd rather owe 2 ,500, and we can make that up. We can figure that out.

1:10:43To sell my car? That's like independence, though. I don't have a bike. We can get a bike. if it saves us$11 ,000, you're right. It is independence, and let's get you a car again. But if you actually can manage life without a car, this gets us to true independence much quicker. Right now, you're dependent on debt and pulling money from retirement. You don't have independence. How long would I have to go without a car? You're not down for this. You're not down for this. That's tough. We're talking major sacrifice here, but for major results. Major results. Just sell it back to CarMath? I'm going to give you$400 for groceries because I know you probably need a little special extra with your crap.

1:11:29But meal prep, meal prep, meal prep. $400, totally fine. TP Fund, also going to give$150 because just for extra for some supplements. If it's anything else you need to survive, get in the nails, get in the hair, spread it out. But$150 a month on average. Car insurance, which hopefully, again, we can cancel. But car insurance. I think it's$150. any co-pays that you have to do on a monthly basis how much for your gyms i know there's three i have three do we need three no i could probably go down to two how much for the two then 100 100 both together yeah like total okay let's do that let's do that subscriptions no but you have a pet right just one dog uh he doesn't live with me right now he's in another state but I do pay for his food and stuff.

1:12:19Does he have pet insurance? Yeah. Do you pay for that? Yes. How much? I want to say it's like 50 bucks a month and then his farmer's dog stuff. I think we go back to Kibble too. Really good high quality though for full nutrient and teeth. Teeth health. I'm going to say 100 bucks for food. Okay. You're going to get pretty good stuff. Okay. I'll show you. We have a dog trainer influencer, like one of the biggest, who subleases the space here. And the really good food that I also feed my dogs is in there. I'll show you. Okay. It's like what to do. Your debt payments. Again, get rid of this car all of a sudden.

1:12:59Oh, we're rolling, dude. Just not in a car. Rolling on a bike. We're on a bus. Nothing wrong with a bus. And it has a negative. I think it's like a fear thing. because I've never done it. You know what I mean? Okay. I mean, you're a big boy. I'm a girl. Even better. A fitness one. Bodybuilder. You can punch someone. I just feel like sometimes people on the bus are like. Exactly. That's the stigma in this country. Austin's one of the safest cities in the country. You'll be okay. The homeless population is crazy. Compared to a lot of other major cities, it's actually not, though. Really? It's a thing.

1:13:38Maybe it's just like downtown area. Yeah, downtown. especially near the Ark. Yeah. But also just because someone's homeless doesn't mean they're going to knife you. No, I've just had bad experiences. They'll throw stuff at me. Sure. We've all had the downtown experiences. Yes. I get it. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, so$4.64.16. Also, bike. $4.64.16 is your debt payment. But again, are we going to get rid of the car? I need to know. I could get rid of it. I need to know if you're going to get rid of it I'll get rid of it there we go beautiful our debt payments you know what it goes down from$464 to$80 and I'm gonna for bus we're gonna get a bike it's gonna be a one time investment we don't have to put that in a reoccurring budget but let's put for public transportation I think$50 should be fine okay how much is a bus ride or a train ride specifically train One of my friends takes it every day.

1:14:41I can ask him, bus? I don't know. You can get monthly passes. I do know that. But actually, I'm going to turn this into$100 for occasional lifts for when you need that situation. Again, we're going to get you a car quick. But this gets you out of your debt situation and risk. Plus, it's over 10 % interest. So let's add all this up, and I think we can get you to a good situation. You need to downgrade. When's your lease up? June 2025.

1:15:11it might be worth trying to break it. You need to spend$1 ,000 on rent. Max. Getting yourself a studio. Yep. We've priced it out. Is that possible in Austin? It's a million times possible. We've priced it out. You'll be totally fine. $2 ,970. You have an extra$500 even with that crazy rent. $530.

1:15:37But even with$530, okay. first month you can pay off fnbo boom you've eliminated a minimum of the payment then southwest you know it's going to be paid off in under six months a little well let's just be conservative and say six seven months you're debt free seven months what is seven months nothing seven months is nothing come on world seven months is nothing okay okay okay right once is all right boom your debt free oh well dad i do owe dad uh what do we want i think if we have a conversation with dad see if we can get a fully funded emergency fund and then pay him back okay we just need to see what he's okay with okay so we need 2 890 10 6 your emergency fund needs to be $17 ,340 Without your Emergency fund?

1:16:30Without your debt That's six months of your living expenses because your rent is so high It's not even including any business But either way At that point That's what's going to take a long time to pay off man I mean that's going to not pay off That's going to take like 30 months That's going to take two and a half years But you could be totally debt-free except for dad and have a fully funded emergency fund in right around three years but here's what we're gonna need to do i'm gonna need to get that emergency fund a little quicker pay off the debt all that stuff that's reasonable seven months that's reasonable i need you to get emergency fund a year after that and how do we do that i'm gonna need without your expenses going up too dramatically you're either getting a second job something close to you that you can get too easily coffee shop something doesn't matter we know you love going to them uh cutting down your business expenses well i mean this is the budget i gave you so it has to be that um yeah second job or increasing your business revenue because i need you to get the emergency fund in one year after seven months of paying off the debt you can make your debt pay off quicker if you of course go get that second job or bring in more clients now and obviously the easier one is getting a second job so i think that's what we're doing immediately if you bring on more clients after that i'm okay with getting rid of the second job but you need to bring because we're setting money aside for taxes again in in my budget we're setting money aside for taxes that's why you have that$3 ,500 how much are you setting aside for taxes from now or I did the math wrong you have 3 ,150 after setting aside 30 for taxes but I don't think you need to set aside 30 let's call it 20 so let's say that's just about accurate because you're not going to be in the 30 range anyway okay so I need you to go bring in a minimum extra$500 so we can speed this up quicker extra 500 hours a month after taxes okay yeah if we do that if we do that i think besides dad besides dad and this is just you know rounding but so we well because i guess i had a yeah you can do that in a year and a half dude you can be out of this in a year and a half and then dad after that okay which is great i guess i'm wondering because my monthly income is like it goes through fluctuations of course how do i like plan for the future after that like obviously i do have to get rid of debt i do have to absolutely and sometimes you know when it's a situation like that sometimes we have the emergency fund but then we also have another little savings account that helps offset the lower months but then we refill it in the higher months so that you're living on a more stagnant basis if we're assuming our average is about 3 ,500.

1:19:09There's a lot of other strategies we go over in the budgeting program for you to take as well there. But I mean, that's a good, just simple method to do it as well. So yeah, I think you can get out of this year and a half, just go make a little bit more money, which isn't crazy to bring an extra$500 a month after taxes with the time I know you have. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And then you pay off your dad. That shouldn't take only more than just like four months after that. and then guess what we save up ten thousand dollars i think in two years you're getting a cash car two years from now if you're doing this correctly go make more than that you can speed it up even quicker you're not in a bad position if you sell your car well we do have to get up that extra two thousand five hundred hours that year mix so i think we're only extending this a couple months because of that though so it's actually not that crazy let's be conservative and say two and a half years so you have a paid for car and no you have a paid for cash car and no debt no debt and a fully funded emergency fund.

1:20:03No risk over your head, meaning you can take more risks in your business. What's the budget for the car? You can get a$10 ,000 car in cash. Okay. In that time span, if you go bring an extra$5 ,000,$750, on monthly basis. Okay. All said easier than done because we're doing this in an hour and a half. But again, that is just a brief way of doing it. it's a more simplified version but those are the general steps you need to take okay okay and we'll be connected along the way and you'll come on for a follow-up and we'll see how you're doing and we'll you know i'll be like okay this is what we need to tweak but go through all the education as well okay but you guys can take advantage link in the description below i know the uh debt one the new debt one on how to utilize that and pay off debt is on sale right now Spending a budget, 0 out of 10, you overspent.

1:20:57Debt, no collections. Not the worst debt. Barring from debt, we don't like that. So that is going to bring it down. But 2 out of 10. Emergency fund, there's technically money in that other account, but it's very fluctuating. So I can't count an emergency fund as high as I'd like. I'm going to give it a 2 out of 10 there. Retirement, we're draining from retirement. Luckily, you still do have some retirement. But now we're draining. We're getting lower and lower. 3 out of 10. Real estate, 0 out of 10. I think you could fix that within a decade if you wanted to easily. your hammer financial score is 1.5 out of 10.

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