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Podcast Summary: Financial Audit - Episode: Entitled Gen-Z Girl Uses Payday Loans To Party
Episode Overview In this episode of the Financial Audit podcast, host Caleb Hammer interviews a 28-year-old woman named Brooke who lives in Austin, Texas. Brooke manages a grocery store and earns approximately $78,000 a year. Despite her good income, she struggles with financial management, leading to a habit of taking out payday loans predominantly for social activities and lifestyle expenses.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Financial Situation and Lifestyle Choices
- Income vs. Expenses:
- Brooke earns a decent salary but spends significantly more than she makes, leading to financial stress.
- She acknowledges that she often borrows money for entertainment, including social outings and trips, instead of managing her finances responsibly.
- Payday Loans:
- Brooke frequently resorts to payday loans to cover living expenses and social outings, causing a cycle of debt.
- She is aware of the high-interest rates associated with payday loans compared to credit cards but prefers the quick access to money they provide.
- Patterns of Financial Mismanagement
- Lack of Budgeting:
- Despite having attempted budgeting in the past, Brooke does not follow it, which leads to overspending.
- She admits to living paycheck to paycheck, often gambling on having enough to cover her expenses at the end of the month.
- Emotional Spending:
- Brooke prioritizes social experiences over financial stability, indicating a need for immediate gratification over long-term planning.
- Debt Overview
- Current Debt:
- Brooke has approximately $5,269 in car debt at a high-interest rate, along with missed payments on credit cards and student loans.
- She has been neglecting payments on her student loans which have accrued interest during the payment pause period from the pandemic.
- Emergency Funds:
- Brooke lacks an emergency fund, which puts her in a precarious position if unexpected expenses arise.
- Relationships and Financial Transparency
- Impact on Personal Relationships:
- Brooke's financial habits create tension in her relationship with her boyfriend, who has a good credit score.
- There’s an implied need for financial transparency in relationships, especially as they may consider joint financial commitments in the future.
- Financial Education and Resources
- Educational Programs:
- The episode highlights Caleb's educational programs focused on budgeting, investing, and managing debt, which Brooke is encouraged to utilize.
- Call to Action:
- Caleb emphasizes the necessity of taking immediate action to correct her financial path, including creating a budget, paying off debts, and establishing an emergency fund.
Key Takeaways
- Awareness and Action: Brooke recognizes her financial mismanagement but struggles to change her habits; awareness must be paired with actionable steps.
- Cycle of Debt: The use of payday loans is unsustainable and exacerbates financial instability.
- Financial Education is Crucial: Understanding how to budget effectively and manage debt can significantly improve one’s financial health.
- Communication in Relationships: Being open about financial issues is important for maintaining healthy relationships, especially when they may involve joint financial decisions.
Conclusion This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the implications of poor financial habits and the importance of education and intentionality in managing personal finances. It highlights the need for a mindset shift from immediate gratification to long-term financial health and stability.
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Transcript
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0:3020 seconds. Go to calebhammer.com slash live or check out the link in the description below. Hi, my name is Brooke. I'm 28. I live in Austin, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming in. What do you do for a living here in Austin? I manage a grocery store. The whole store? Well, yeah. Okay. I know it's a big one, so that actually must be a lot of work. Do you get good money for the big amount of work that this is? What do you get paid? uh i get paid let's see about 78 000 a year that is good yeah people say we're not saying which one but people say you can actually make good careers there yeah you can yeah and like you're kind of demonstrating that you can yeah 78 000 yeah how do you feel living in austin 78 78 000 is good for if i'm not you're pretty you're 2 000 below i think the austin median household income and you're 28 years old 78 000 so how do you feel living in austin uh it's a little challenging i'd like to move up north because south austin is a little far away from everything yeah north austin is a little more expensive like pay and survival yeah no i think i do it well for myself interesting why are you taking out payday loans every second of your life in order to survive and everything um that's a great question i think part of it is to have fun uh part of it is i'm just kind of ignoring what's going on with payday loan equal have fun um you know i don't have an answer to that let's see let's try to have some answers we're on a podcast well okay which payday loan specifically because there's a couple we'll definitely get into that okay yeah i just don't understand because you make good money i do austin is an expensive area it's the most expensive area in texas in terms of major city i don't know really yeah no i didn't know that i think it'd be i don't know no i mean you can get specific neighborhoods that are ridiculous but in terms of like the city austin is the most expensive in texas for sure um so it can be harder to live here it really can you don't make a bad income especially for a single person no you actually make a good income and i'm very happy to see it you've made a great progress in a career before 30 why would we be struggling and you say you're not struggling but you don't recognize it i think for taking out payday loans yes i think i am definitely struggling you said you were doing like okay i forgot the exact phrase you used well okay okay do people who are okay take out payday loans so i do pretty well um for myself but i started way early on so i i've moved a lot in my life i lived in new york city i moved to virginia florida kentucky and now texas and so i think in that time i've just been kind of scraping by and how long have you been here four years okay i've been here six years it feels like a lifetime i'm okay the rest of that cool but i i'm a little confused how all that relates to you doing this right now if you've been here for four years not four months four years yeah so what are you trying to say i think i've just had a pattern of not really not really paying things and taking out debts to afford other things and so why and it ended up here again you do not make bad money where does your money go to you in your brain where do you think it goes to the point where you have to be borrowing this money first of all there's not even a credit card for me to look at yeah you could be putting i'm not even saying put it on credit cards when you can't afford something go put it on credit cards but if you do it so i get a 30 interest rate instead of payday loans oh yeah i didn't even think about that honestly i figured it's just quicker it's quicker money and i'm borrowing for myself so it felt better if that makes sense all borrowing from yourself yeah and then credit cards i've been denied for a lot of credit cards good yeah probably for the best um those yeah i wouldn't want you to use a credit card no i think yeah and when i have obviously i've had one closed before so I can't pay it on time.
4:33They closed? You closed? They closed it. Okay. Yeah. Because you f***ed it up so bad. Yeah. Well, I just forgot to pay it. So then they closed it. And then I need to pay it. You have to forget to close it for quite a while. For a few months, yeah. And they reach out. Well, I never reach out. And you also have mail and apps and emails and phone calls and things that operate in civilization. but it's easier if you just put it over there put it over where? where you don't think about it in the space where it doesn't exist assuming it has f***ed credit which is why when you go apply for these credits you're not getting approved but the other payday loans do approve you because it's such a high interest so I've just been borrowing from myself in that manner because sometimes I can't make a payment at a certain time and I don't want the payment to be late because I don't want it to affect my credit but the payday loans get paid off that makes sense it doesn't yeah yeah okay okay okay what i'm still confused about and which is it's the one thing i always like to know before going going deep into the finances is what is going on in your life what you say so far is that i've had a pattern okay but what is going on in your life um what is this reflecting what is your life what are you i think what what am i like a demogorgon or like a beast or some something no i i don't i don't really know if i really stopped and thought about it i don't think i ever had financial advice or help and i've been none of us have yeah and i mean i'm gonna interrupt you because everyone says this none of us have but you have had access to libraries and google and internet and youtube i've been embarrassed to ask for help and when i do it's not necessarily like some prevent googling that's true but you know i'm not gonna judge you they'll stalk you well they won't judge you i have sat down and tried to make a budget but i don't follow it if that makes sense so why not what do you think probably partially disciplined financial discipline is one thing but also i don't want to let go of certain opportunities like being able to go out and have fun have a good time why is that not in the budget again you don't not make any money so why don't you put those experiences and things that you value into the budget why don't it be in the budget then you stick to the budget and then you do those things but you do them in a way that you don't as often have to borrow payday loans i think why make a budget if you're not going to follow the budget that's true and that's why i haven't made a budget in a while because i made a budget like two or three years ago when i was moving so and i didn't really follow it so and i think so what we just hope at the end of the month we have enough money yeah that's that's you hit the nail on the head that's pretty much it uh and it's not been working well i think i'm at a point now where i'm drowning a little bit and i can still survive like i can still feed myself and go to work you're drowning though yes i mean you acknowledge it but do you know to the extent that you are because you don't budget you don't look at your stuff do you to the extent definitely not i do know i'm drowning i just don't think i am aware of how bad it is if that makes sense um like i see what goes in and comes out and i think i have an idea what came in probably 48 to 5 000 payroll 48 yeah cool one went out yeah what was spending probably i know what comes in i know what goes out what went out probably more like six thousand dollars if i had okay so you actually do know 6 100 so if you know then why would you allow that because that's even more upsetting than not knowing well because now you know but you still do it yeah like what are we doing that's just yourself it is no you're right but i think the main thing is that i've just spent money to be able to have experiences and what experiences matter more than you experiencing being able to retire not die under a bridge there's any there's any number of things um like well let's try some examples for my birthday i went to mexico and i bought like a cheap plane ticket for three hundred dollars and i expected that it was going to be more expensive i spent like a thousand dollars while i was there and in may i went to detroit to go hang out what'd you do this last month the month where you spent a thousand two hundred dollars more than you brought in i think i went out a lot with friends and so the experience is going out getting drink why don't you get a little like pre-game and then hit the town that's fair i drive myself everywhere uber yeah cheaper than going out and buying a lot of drinks that's fair or if your friends are going out get them to drive you i live in south austin i live so far from everybody well and it's like a hassle to come down there it's like 30 minutes for anybody to come pick me up so you know and i haven't i think that's part of it too i don't have like a solid i have friends but i don't know that why are you going out if you don't have a i do i do but i don't know that they would pick me up if i asked i should ask they don't sound like good friends no they are good friends no they wouldn't pick you up if you they probably would they probably would but you can't ask every time and if i'm going out like every weekend my friend we carpool constantly every weekend well we don't go and hit the bars but whenever we go do things we carpool constantly okay that's fair i think i have to drive to them And then we go to North Austin.
9:41Or Uber to them. Because, again. I don't like being in other people's cars, though. I don't. Yeah, but we're just. I just don't. Hey. People drive crazy. But. Sorry. Just one second, dude. We're literally just trying to. Okay. We're literally trying. We are trying. I'm sorry. Oh, my. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm listening. We are trying to get you from point A, where you just got drunk, to point B without dying. Yes. So I don't care if it's in someone else's car. Fair. Okay. That's better than you drunk driving. Okay, fine. You always care to drive. So how are you doing this now? I don't drunk drive.
10:21No, I. I'm not saying you do. I'm saying let's prevent it. Well, yeah. So, okay, you go out. You spend a lot of money on drinks and you only, you refuse to not drive. So how are you getting there and getting back? Well, I don't drink just for, like, I buy drinks for people and stuff. I think that's. Why? Because I want everybody. But you're spending$1 ,300 more than you make a month. How can you afford to buy drinks for other people? You're buying payday loans. I've done it. Huh? I've done it. Yeah, via payday loans. Yes. That's correct. So payday loans to buy drinks for other people. Not just that.
10:51Uh-huh, but that's how it's kind of mathematically working out, is it not? You knew how much came in. You know how much leaves. And I ask you the experiences this month. It was a guess. You said, you guessed right. And you said going out with the friends. Yeah. Mostly that. So you're going out. You borrowed$1 ,300 probably. We'll see. To go out with friends. At least in this last month. Net. Yes, this last month. That's what we're looking at. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what happened six months ago. What? No, just trips and stuff, I think. I've also said. Like savings, you put aside and then you spend it.
11:27What savings? You don't have savings. I have your savings account. In fact, how about we start with a savings account? That's fun. Usually we save that at the end. Let's talk about savings. Yeah, we're putting money in savings, aren't we? because we're a big girl. We have a market savings account. What do we have? Oh, 93 cents. Sorry, that's the total earnings this year. Any balance, 57 cents. Savings, guys. That's what it is. That's what we're doing. That's where money's going. Well, at a certain point, there was money in there, and I haven't seen it. And where'd it go? I think that's how I know.
11:54And where'd it go? To trips. Trips to. Those are emergencies. You know, not having an emergency fund is an emergency. Yes. And that's how I feel right now, which is why I'm in a place where I feel like I need to. It's interesting that we feel certain ways, yet we do no actions to solve the feelings we have. Okay. That's a fair assessment. Yes. Yeah, I don't have anything to say to that. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. So going out to eat is more important than having emergency fun. Not going out to eat, sorry. Going out and bevving it up with the girls. Going out to eat as well. I guess you can put that in there too.
12:31Sure. And then groceries. I could probably spend less on groceries. But I like good food. Yeah, I had you at$5.29 groceries. You could cut back if you wanted to. How much do you think you spent just going out to eat specifically? Probably like$600. She knows her numbers, dude. It is$609. I'm on it. But that's worse. Yes. That's worse. Because you know it and you do it. Yeah, you don't have an emergency fund. Meaning if anything happens, you have a car, you drunk drive, you hit something. Guess what? You total that car. You're not going to replace that car. You don't have an emergency fund. Something pops up, something medical, family, a trip, a trip because someone passes away.
13:12You never know what happens. An emergency is an emergency is an emergency. And you don't have a fund. And you know how much you spend on going out there. You know how much more you spend than brings in. But we say no. Our behaviors say that that is more important than any financial security. Yeah. I actually did have an emergency recently And I had to take out a pay loan for it And what was it? I got a ticket Speeding ticket After the bar? No it wasn't after the bar It was on the way to work actually But yes I got a speeding ticket And I had to take out a loan to pay it off How much was the speeding ticket?
13:49It was like$600 and something Wow those are expensive Yeah Don't speed down it I stopped speeding down it As someone who definitely doesn't Well, it's Texas. I mean, everybody speeds in Texas. It's feral out here. I'm inviting comedians on the show, guys.
14:11Did you not take the little thing where you can go take a test and stuff? Well, no. Oh, because this is probably the second ticket recently. No, it wasn't. But I just did. Why would you not do that? Well, because I have to get my license. Because I lost it. You lost your license? Do you have an active license? I do, yeah. Then what's the issue? Well, I didn't have registration at the time. Why? Because I need to get insurance on my car. You don't have insurance? Yes, but I'm working on that. No, no, no. You can get it in 30 minutes. How long have you been working on it? How long have you been working on it?
14:47A while, a while. It's really expensive for insurance. It's really expensive. You spend$600 a month going out to eat for you. Yeah, I could probably, yeah, put that to that. What happens if you get in a car crash now? Because now you're not insured at all. And now you don't have an emergency fund. I drive a lot safer now that I got a ticket. I mean, I'm just saying. I only drive to the bars. I refuse to get an Uber. I got a speeding ticket for going quick and it's a$600 one. Yeah. So I'm a notoriously safe driver, guys. That's what's coming from your mouth. Okay. I want to give you free money right now.
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16:30Money is linked in the resources section of the description below. So don't pass up the free money because I'll punch you. We spent$600 going out to eat, but we're not getting car insurance? A basic legal requirement? Yes, which I will go do right after this. No, you won't. Why didn't you do it before? How long have you been trying? Well, you know, if it's going to... Oh, come on. Like a few years. I think What is that? So I registered my car when I moved to Texas And then I Can't remember why I didn't necessarily get it done But then I just What insurance? It's a phone call it's a Google Are people incapable of using the internet on this show?
17:08No I've just never been in an accident I've never gotten a ticket It's legal Yes Legal issues You're breaking the law And I don't want to do that When did you get the ticket? A couple weeks ago. Why didn't you get it in the last two weeks then? I've been working a lot. What's your work schedule? I work five days a week typically. Ten hour days and then I have two days off. Sounds like you had at least four days off. Yeah. To Google something. Yes. To make a singular phone call. I did Google and Progressive and Allstate quoted me at like$350 a month. Cheaper than some people have on the show. and also saves you more money next time you get a ticket and have to do legal things.
17:54That's right. That doesn't feel very cheap though. I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it's cheaper than some people on this show for someone with a ticket. Yeah. On the record. Yeah. For speeding. How much over were you? It was a 35 and I was doing 61, but I had a good reason. It's a really good reason. Do you want to hear it? Okay. So their power went out at work and I was rushing there because they needed my help. So I think that's part of the reason I got out of the ticket. Yeah, because you could have turned the power on. Well, no, but I'm responsible for facilities and maintenance and operations.
18:27I got you. No, I got you. I got you. Cool. Well, that explains the expensive ticket, and that explains why your insurance is so high. Are you surprised? No. Get it! It's been two weeks. You work 10 hours a day, meaning you still have time left in that day. 14 hours. Well, 16 hours. Well, eight of those are sleeping. Hold on. 18 hours. Most of the time. 18 hours really No I'm stupid what's happening What am I doing 14 hours Am I in the right show Apparently not right now It's been an interesting day I'm scared Okay That math just terrified me Alright So 6 hours a day I have free time essentially Time is 5 Which I'm not even going to attempt right now knowing where my brain is Apparently and then two days off yeah and then it's been compounded over two weeks well the two days off yes i've had plans so yes yeah maybe your plan should include not breaking the what are you a you're 28 years old you manage the whole store meaning you have a lot of employees that you're dealing with why are you acting like a five-year-old i've just been ignoring all of it honestly because it's been how could you be respected as a boss that's fair that's no that's completely fair i mean i'm in it i'm type a at work it's just like in my personal life it's like it's kind of a mess financially and so personal life always affects work it does and i think it's getting to well i mean not really not really for me i i don't think doubt doubt i bet we could get in there and figure some things out in your work i bet if we had a camera strapped you all day could absolutely there's going to be a stress that blows over there's going to be something that's forgotten because there's ticket things in your brain that's fair yes yeah i do forget some stuff yeah because of the stress level outside of work but say it impacts what do you think is happening okay stop i want to know where you think your score is then we're going to dive into this money zero being the absolute worst 10 being the absolute best where do you think your finances are today i want to know your self-assessment where do you think you are we've gotten a good like 20 minutes of just assessing you your personality your thoughts on money so far payday loans are making more sense where do you think you are finances um i would probably say nine being the worst no no zero is the worst oh okay so one yeah one come on yeah sorry well well let's listen i obviously go out your hammer financial score it's free link in the description below and if you want to come on the show go to calebhammer.com slash apply i'll give you a little scream a little punch a little slap slap slap of debt all right so this first thing um it's the worst thing what am i looking at here we have a five thousand two hundred sixty nine dollar balance on what a car oh what's okay what's your car uh ford focus black ford focus year 2016 guys it's a black one well you know but thank goodness uh 2016 2016 okay what do you think it's worth uh i think the last time i did what is it blue kelly it was like a three thousand $4 ,500, which I don't think is accurate.
21:37It's probably less than that. $4 ,500 is what we got. So you're probably underwater by about$1 ,000. Private sale, I bet if you traded in, it would be like$500 less or so. Okay. So you're underwater. What interest rate is this at? Really high. Definitely closer to the 20%. I think 18 something. 18%. Yes. I got it when my credit was like way worse. How did your credit even get better? You're taking out paydance. What are you talking about? I haven't improved my credit somehow. I don't know how. in the past four years. What's your credit score? What are we considering improved? I think it's like 650.
22:08Really? What was it? It was like a 570. Why haven't you refinanced? So I didn't know that you could refinance and then when I did it was like past the time because somebody said it was like three years. Past the time. No no you can refinance whenever. At any time? Yeah. Oh. Well I mean okay that changes things a little bit. I don't even. Would you go through like a What'd you listen to? Who'd you talk to? You could go through your bank. Okay. I didn't know that I didn't know that I could do that. I thought there was a a certain amount of time with the age of the car and the age of the loan. And then you can't do it.
22:37Well, your equity position's bad in the car, to be clear. Yes. I'm under$1 ,000. Is that right? Which is better than I thought, actually. When did you get this? 2019, I think. Okay. So how long is this term? Because this is going on forever. We're five years in? Yeah. And you still owe this much money? Yeah. And I still, well. $306 minimum payment. Oh, sorry. $305.86. So, I mean, I got the car kind of in a rush simply because I paid off. I love my Honda. It was a white Honda. Her name was Jane. A white Honda this time. Yeah, it's important. Her name was Jane Honda. And I loved her to death and back.
23:17And I bought it off a friend. Essentially, what happened was I got a flat tire. It was parked in my apartment complex for like a week or two. Yeah, I didn't live in Texas at the time, but it had a flat tire. And I didn't fix it for about a week or two. when I finally did go to fix it my catalytic converter got stolen off of it so it didn't work and I had like just paid it off and it was like a little hooptie yeah it was a little hooptie so you know it is what it is I got triple A to pick it up yeah long story short I had to buy a car because I had to get to work and I didn't want to buy a car how expensive was this car when you got it because this was five years ago yeah I think the loan was like$13 ,000 if I'm remembering correctly.
24:00It's not like the world's, I mean the interest rates. Yeah, it was a good price. Well, we don't know. I don't know what the value of it was. I mean, you're only, well the thing is, I mean, you're still underwater by about 25%. Since here it's a lower loan and the value is a lower number, like it feels a little better because it's only$1 ,000 under and we could find ways for you to get$1 ,000, you know, easier than$10 ,000. But it's still a substantial equity percentage off. yeah okay sorry three to six dollar fifty five cent minimum monthly payment how long oh through twenty twenty six so we have two more years yes two more years hopefully less well okay how are you going to do that if we're taking out payday loans to go out with the what hopefully less you know health doesn't get us there i do get bonuses that's what everyone does on the show no i get bonuses you've been getting bonuses that's true but i've had little emergencies come up at least which means you will always have little emergencies come up welcome to life that's why we have emergency funds so your bonus can go paying off debt what do you think why do you think life is also going to be different hope is not a solution there's nothing wrong with having hope i would rather you have hope than just down down down gloom gloom but hope doesn't get us there a plan gets us there actions get us there well it's got me this far so what payday loans that we're about to go through 18 car debt of stupid yeah that got us here great wonderful we're 28 with no savings Sorry, 50 cents.
25:25There's something in there. So, I mean, come on. That's not funny. It's not. That's not funny. That is scary. You don't understand. You don't understand how much that can your life today. If something goes wrong in the wrong, you don't understand just how bad that can get. This can get you into some of the worst debt you have ever had. If something happens that you cannot get out of and you don't have insurance on this car, you need to drive. You need to drive with where you are in order to get to where you need to be. This car, something happens. You're going to crash. Maybe it's not your fault.
25:57It doesn't even matter. It could just break down. Someone steals a converter. Who knows? Who knows? That happens. What do you do tomorrow? How can you? You're not qualifying for credit cards. So, and your debt to income is probably shit. So, who is approving you for a loan to get a car? And you can't get a 50 cent car. Fun fact. So, what are you going to do? You don't. You can giggle it off. Maybe it's a cope one. I will hope it is like many people on this show have. but 50 cents in savings is not a laughing matter your life is at such risk right now you do not understand how scary this is you do not understand no i i i get it and recently i just started talking to someone who has a perfect credit score so i'd really like to not mess up his credit as well so wait married not married no but i just started talking to somebody and it kind of how up their score well if we do get married in the future oh talking by dating by the diddle diddle it was like a wake-up call to say like if i get in a partnership with someone and i had a perfect well how many of you guys been dating well you guys don't like combine score what do you is that not how that works i i genuinely thought you share credit scores if you get a loan together you're married you can get on loans together you don't have to you don't absolutely have to there's a lot of advantages with marriages it's so important to me i mean i still want to get my together.
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29:11What are the bonuses? I get about$1 ,200, and then in December I get a little bit more. That's great. Two to three, yeah. How are you throwing this away? Okay, and how long have you been dating this? Six months. Okay, and it sounds like you're thinking more future. Yeah, we both are. But this person, good, love it. Don't bring this kind of, this is the kind of shit you can bring into a relationship. Well, I don't want to, like my financial situation? Yes, because once you guys are a partnership. Yeah. unless you guys are completely separate which is weird and we've had people that do that but he's gonna feel some obligation to take on this i actually didn't tell him i was gonna do this because i'm so embarrassed about i mean he showed me his credit score this is damn near perfect and like i i want to say like can you help me understand my finances but i don't want him to feel as though you should be honest though shouldn't you what what is hiding it gonna do that's not going to do anything that's going to be worse in a year i could probably get it together yeah but what's you guys have been dating for six months what is hiding this doing that's not benefiting anything that's worse probably that's fair i mean he does pay for a lot of stuff and so that's helpful like he'll pay for like you're still taking out payday loans oh my goodness he's paying for things yet we're spending 1300 more than we make even though we make really good income yeah like twice a month okay this car we'll think about this car okay we'll see by the end all right so i i must like this this is your credit you didn't print off statements i must have your credit okay so what do we have oh my what is possibly happening this has a balance of 441 dollars why are we four months past due it's so stupid that is so dumb you can so pay this off immediately what is this what is this so is the card that closed with my bank i just forgot to pay it for a couple it's not even forgetting this is so insignificant compared to your income you could kill this how much is your rent uh 16 to 1700 oh that's actually quite expensive why'd you do that well because i wanted to live by myself well i had to live by myself you can live by i have well i know i have people that live by themselves for cheaper well that's you wanted to live in a place you wanted to live well sort of i wanted to have a second bedroom to be able to like host people and have like an office area and so but it is a good price for our grocery store job notoriously worked out of a home i i could pay that off you're right but i figured it's such a small amount that is what are you this is killing your credit is it that bad i figured that what are you talking about what are you talking about this you're using 147 of your accounts limit if you're doing that that's your credit utilization then you're reporting mispayments not only that but you had mispayments in february and march as well and then you started making it out for the next two months and then you just for four months it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you want to go into this relationship you guys might go on a loan together get a house together but now with your kind of credit right they're gonna see this history they're gonna be like you as they should because you're not responsible with that you're not responsible you're not a credit card person No, I'm not.
32:22No. And you know, I don't really feel the need to have credit cards because I've had the payday loans. It's just all going. What a statement. So what a statement. But the cost of a payday loan, if you pay it back right away, it's like$20. I mean, you haven't started to pay on the current one taken out. Which one? I don't know. This is the current one taken out. Oh, we're getting to it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We'll get to it. You haven't started yet. So. Well, it pays off. You're talking about on your paycheck. like the day you get paid they pull out the money you have just been in this like cycle auto full yeah it just pays it off that day and so it's been like this vicious cycle where every paycheck i kind of had to and i think that's where i'm drowning if you just cut back 600 one time going out to eat in a month you would have fixed it and then i got the parking ticket or the speeding ticket and it was just okay so that happens do it the next month then that's what i'm gonna do but it just feels like every time i reach what you're doing well it's not what I'm doing, but every time I reach out my way - I have your spending statement, and oh, they are pages long.
33:20So I don't know what the f*** you're talking about. You're bulls*** now is what you're doing, and I don't accept bulls*** at this table. Okay, that's fair. Uh-huh. So why trying to lie to me? Don't do that. That doesn't get us anywhere. Well, it wasn't a lie. No, come on. But you said I'm going to try that next time. No, you're not. I have your damn statement. And f*** you, it wasn't the parking ticket. This is your last damn month you spent$600. So why bulls***? We don't get to the good place you want to get, and I want to see you get and they want to see you get if we're lying to each other.
33:50So don't bull me. For f***ing sake. You're four times, you're going to pay this off less than you went out to eat, but you're like no, I would rather destroy my credit. What is the point? This is money you sign a contract to borrow. You don't feel obligated to pay it back in any way whatsoever? I guess that's where, yeah, I guess that's what that means by my actions. I just haven't thought of this. What do you think? In your brain. I thought that it wasn't affecting my credit that much. Missing payment and overutilization? Do you look? This is. Do you. Okay. This is just another one of those things.
34:26I feel like I'm on this trend right now of just the. You have access to so much information. You don't think this is impacting your credit. If you are in the world of credit, why have you not looked at what impacts my credit? Also, this would tell you that it impacts your credit. What account? What app are you using? What is this pulled from? Credit Karma. it tells you it tells you what's impacting your credit and it tells you usually next to what items or what category in your credit score are they being impacted so it literally is a cheat sheet right in front of you it tells you if it's a high pack high impact medium or low you're just you're at that point i'm sorry that's a stupidity that's a stupidity that's not laziness that's just dumb because you're not looking at the damn app that you pulled this from so when it closes it hurts more well this is probably gonna get sold to collections relatively soon if you don't pay it off i'll pay it off before it goes to collections you might get like a 30 point hit in your credit score if it gets sold off to collections oh this is their in their internal collections as far as i can tell now it's gonna go to collections before you know they're gonna feel like oh i'm not getting my 441 let me sell for pennies on the dollar and then they're gonna try to fight to get it they've been calling me yes yeah but pay it now okay no how much is in your checking account right now Like$78?
35:43How? You make too much money for that. How? Possibly. Oh, wait. I know because I've seen your checking account. For f***s sake. Okay. This probably still has a minimum monthly payment. What is it? I don't know that it does. It used to have like a payment. Well, right now it's at$2.51. That's what's owed. $2.15 because it's back multiple payments. It's probably something like$49. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to put that in. If you at least start making it on, they won't sell it to collections. Just make a damn payment. Okay. Very f***ed. Okay. Okay. See, I have a Capital One with$81. It says it's active.
36:23Yes. Actually, I do. I have that credit card, yeah. But I just recently got it not too long ago. Show me it. Pull up the app. You didn't send a damn statement. Oh. We asked for statements of every account. Come on, guys. If you're a manager, you give out instructions. How can you not follow instructions? I just recently. I don't want to be a f*** to you, but come on. I don't even use it that often. Well, it has a free border balance. Yeah, it does. It sure does. You're not a credit card person. If you're going to use a credit card, use it like a fizz card. It's a debit card. It builds credit. Use one of those.
36:55Okay, this. Okay. This. Okay. What do you want to see? The transactions? No, why don't you just give me access to the app. Little laugh tease, huh? Huh? What do we got? What are we looking at? Take a drink for this. I got some gas. oh we got schlotzkies just a couple days ago day before that panda express guys poor mr jacob over there he went through all your spending fun fact jake it's probably twice as worse no is what you thought you're spending every day though then we got our nails did there's your interest amazon this is constant pizza and rolls dreamer hotel vegas holy smokes there's just a single person on the show that does not have a nicotine addiction I'm gonna die what is your preference for your consumption of the nic I just vape but it's only when I'm drinking like it's probably after a night of drinking stop you're spending a lot of money at the place you work at I know and you know what those are not grocery shopping type prices those are like we're stopping and we're getting a little snack or a sweet treat oh you're kidding me What kind of snack are you getting?
38:07What are you doing? This is like multiple times. This is endlessly. Grocery, grocery, grocery, grocery, grocery. But they're not groceries. I'm there all day. Yep. All day. You don't think people that go to their jobs or at their jobs all day. I've been here all day so far. What do you think I did? What do you think I did? I had a little protein bar. A little protein bar that we pre-ordered instead of me going and buying lunch. That's fair. There's also a culture too at the store where everybody wants to like go out to lunch and I need to just say no because everybody's been like, oh, let's go here, let's go here.
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40:32And we made, or we had two. And then we made two. And then we missed four. And then the account became closed. What makes you think you can use this card? You can't. You don't know how to use credit cards. You're not a credit card person. Oh, why would you do this to yourself? Why would you do this to yourself? I... Why not? At least have the auto pay on. I would love if you've paid more, of course. But just have the auto pay on. You need a credit card for your credit. Huh? Huh? You need credit cards for your credit. You don't need a credit card for your credit. It is beneficial if you use it correctly.
41:02But guess what? You have a closed account with utilization at a million trillion percent because it's over the balance on the last credit card. And this one's completely maxed out. So I don't know what benefit you think this is having. Your credit is going against you. You're not utilizing it. It's utilizing you for money. Okay. I paid on time. So far. We saw what happened with the last one. Okay. We saw what happened with the last one. Okay. 25 is the minimum. I usually pay it off in full though whenever I get paid no I had interest accruing as I looked at the transaction so that's incorrect so you don't even know that so you're incorrect about that so set it up on auto pay because you don't f***ing know you can set it to pay off the full balance probably most cards allow you to so you could just damn do that if you're going to pay it off in full every time for f***ing sake oh oh also you spent almost like a hundred bucks plus like that 20 bucks at the smoke shop so it can't just be for drinking unless when you drink instead of sucking sucking down vape no no i mean there's other things at the smoke shop like little trinkets and sweet treats that i'll buy it's a very nice little sweet treats at the smoke shop they have like drinks and stuff and cookies and special cookies and drinks no no gosh then why are you getting it from there go to the grocery store bulk you work at one yeah you work at one book book book okay okay ed financial student loans oh yeah you went to school yeah i did what was your degree uh i just have my associates i have i never got my bachelor's but i have enough credits for two bachelors i mean i mean look at you i mean you have a great job your finances are your own choices but you have a great job so uh that's there's nothing wrong with that who i don't give a piece of paper you have.
42:53I care about what you accomplish in life after that. For so many people that are life is so sad that the ultimate like accomplishment in their life is what they did between 18 and 22. No, you're actually going and accomplishing more than many people do afterwards. So you're the real winner, right? Their lives are sad. They're in 60. If you look at my financials though, my life, well, this is sad, but in terms of what you're actually doing, no, no, no. What you're doing and accomplishing is great. People are like in their 50s and like all they look at is their degree and that's their pride and joy of their life instead of the decades of accomplishment that you could do by going out there and getting done.
43:29You're going to get it done. You're being stupid with it, but you're doing great in your career. Yeah. Okay. That's always been true. Good. Let's utilize it correctly. $4 ,804 is owed. Probably all low interest. What's the minimum monthly payment on those student loans? I don't know. Are you paying towards them? No. they were 3 000 before perfect why if you're on like some income-based thing i'm gonna be kind of upset because you make a good income income-based thing i don't even know what that is then why wouldn't you be paying on them uh what's the what's the phrase i'm looking for like a choice a moral choice i just thought when nobody else was paying them off i thought that's what we're all doing and then you know now i have more like i was you are a toddler you are a toddler in an adult body managing people somehow what kind of they're gonna garnish your wages they're gonna get their money through a worse way they're gonna take it before you see it okay i didn't know what are you why do you think that you are entitled to that not entitled i just didn't want to i just figured nobody else is paying it they would what do you mean nobody else is paying We're all paying.
44:40Oh, that's me. So what the f*** are you talking about? During COVID, there was a pause. Girl, we've been paying for over a year now. I kind of stopped after that, honestly. That's not a choice. Yeah. I mean, it is, though. Garnish your wages. It has been a choice for a little bit. And interest is accruing on a balance that isn't getting smaller. That's right. Meaning you're going to owe more. Oh, why would you do this? Wouldn't want to do that. Oh, that's such a child move. I don't get it. oh i don't dislike you as a person but that is such a childish move that is like so beyond immature like i don't even know like i'll make jokes all day i love a good little immature like uh stupid little boy comments i love that but this is what an actual immature individual does your actions your what you're doing in the real world this is crazy everyone else is not paying out this time i'm not gonna pay the rest of us have been paying what the are you talking about how do you not even know it hasn't been a problem up until now well you know when it's laying out in front of you it looks like a problem but that's what i i started off saying is just kind of putting it off to the side and you know oh you are so irresponsible i'm paying off the car like that's basically what i've been focused on you're paying minimum towards your car yeah that's your focus is just making a minimum monthly you make you could pay off if we focus your income for a few months because of your income we could pay off your car in damn six months probably so i don't know what the you don't know you you are bull so you're bull yourself i don't even think you know you're bull you are so far gone down this mentality oh my oh my this is i didn't think this i didn't think this would be your conversation i really didn't but then again you have to have a certain personality certain mindset to take out payday loans you have to so this actually does make sense i didn't think this was going to be this conversation i thought it started relatively pleasant doesn't doesn't mean again it doesn't mean i hate you no i mean i've just been ignoring i've just been ignoring it i think that's the big thing and going on to live my life and now i've reached a point where i have 57 cents or 97 in my savings and I don't know.
46:57$0.97 would be exciting. I think it's$40 something. Okay. There's your car. Yep. And then flex is$0. That's something you use often. Rent is rent. This isn't rent. This is something you use for rent. Do you ever use it? I use it every month. Oh my f***. What's the fee? It's like$15 a month. Why? Why pay$15 extra for your rent? Because it cuts it in half and I get to pay in the middle. Oh, okay. Okay. Listen, listen, listen. My ears are on. If we could kind of, I think, I don't know, maybe. If you have to split Rhett in half with your incredibly powerful income and bonuses, you need to go through our budgeting class immediately.
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48:12Best online in my legitimate opinion because we've taken almost all of them out there. They're all bundled together for 25 % off. I recommend them, but you get them for free. But you better use it. You're paying. oh I can't believe you're doing that there's no reason someone in your position should be flexing what am I looking at here? transactions of what? what account is this? let's see this is gonna be the payday for Dave oh oh oh sweat my gosh what are we doing? surviving Dave? you're not you're not you're kicking it down the road and you're hoping that you make it in the end that's a fair assessment you said that like 10 times i've done it up until this point i think now i'm i just want to get more serious i'm almost 30 years old i want to get to a point where i'm not just ignoring all this and putting it off to the side listen no you you might have that once and this is what i tell everyone because everyone says that it makes it easier to get out of this tough conversation listen you might have that one but you clearly want to go vape and smoke and you clearly want to go out to eat and take vacations more you clearly want to go buy lunch every day you're at work more you might want to a little but you care about those other things more because that's where your actions are that's where your behavior is your proof is in the numbers in your spending we've gone over some of it already and we have a massive spending statement here in a little okay so you might want it but that one is like a 0.5 percent want okay so let me know when you're really serious and done bull so for dave what are we doing dave great fee fee fee fee fee fee up the fee fee for life because we're just spend we're just taking fees fees for our money you your money put in that marcus account or like a better one like so far or something you take that you take it or you put it in the stock market i open up my brokerage mumu okay beautiful i'm but no not even just the i was gonna do like an s &p 500 example this 600 that you take out put in your mumu if i'm not mistaken for like the first three or six months it's like eight percent on your money for just letting it sit there you that's my investing app that i use i'm so sorry no it's okay no that's fine i'm just huh no no no sorry i just if you when you put the if you put that money in i think you get like 8.5 on your money it's incredible for six months instead you're taking it from dave and paying them 30 damn dollars for that 600 you're losing your money on your money it makes no sense your money should be working for you and making money but you're literally just giving dave money for your money me and dave have been homeboys and then you flex rent everything you do is some charge some stupid paying extra yeah you're losing money on your money which is so rare you're losing more money on your money than just inflation for sake so what's owed to dave right now 600 yes that pays on payday and then you immediately take out 600 the next day not usually it's if i have like a bill that wouldn't you do it because you say you do it for every payday well i try to not but sometimes i'll need it to pay a bill earlier so like if my how often do you do it then come on payday is two days two times a month right two or three times a month maybe it's more than i have four times a month i get paid oh you get paid weekly i get paid weekly yeah okay so it's every other pay yeah to bi-weekly sometimes pay the bill on time let's get ahead one damn time dude it's the money you spend going out to eat from not even the other credit card we already looked at so now we know you're spending money going out to eat is even more okay wonderful so literally one month of not doing that a single month sacrifice in your entire life and you're done with dave okay one month and you're done with dave there is no reason not to no reason that's fair i was almost done with Dave and then I got that stupid ticket.
52:24I know, but also again, I said, stop. I specifically said stop bullshitting because again, it wasn't just a ticket. You still spent in your most recent statements $600 now probably close to$700 going out to eat. So it's not just a ticket. You still spent the same amount of money that would have taken care of Dave. I didn't realize it was that much. Well, it is. So stop with that. Emergencies happen. You didn't sacrifice in order to have enough money Wait, you said your little savings went to the ticket. How much is your savings? Well, no, I didn't say my savings. Yes, you did. Like emergencies have gone to.
53:03Oh, emergencies, not emergencies. Yeah, like anytime an emergency comes up. What's earning? Is that another Dave? Yeah, it is. But it's a smaller one. It's a smaller one. We're multi-daving. That one's a small one. Just getting a train ran on us, but Dave's. I don't even know a Dave.
53:23I need to get Dave Ramsey in line. He'll fix that. Can I add something? What I would like is to know what to pay off, like, mostly first. Of course. In order. We'll get there. Yeah, okay. We'll get there. We'll do that at the end. It's okay. We'll do it at the budget. I'm just trying to get your entire situation written down and assessed and understood. That's fair. Your student loan minimum payment, by the way, we didn't add a minimum payment. payment i'm guessing it's about like 60 bucks nothing crazy okay so this you're borrowing like 50 150 and you're getting like what tip why is there tips you're tipping them like a dollar it's like not well why are you tipping them no but why are you tipping i have a habit of like over tipping i tip why are you tipping this because they put the little sad thing on the screen they're like you should tip us i don't know it's a pay a little micro payday that's You're tipping the payday loan people They do ask for a tip No I don't usually tip I want to be clear That might be the dumbest thing that's happened on this show Well I will wear that crown high I suppose And that's hard to beat At this point this many years in This many episodes a week That's impressive This is especially bad the borrowing this month I think because it's been October and Halloween and oh you I can't handle it.
54:52I'm just being honest. There's gonna be there's a Halloween There's a holiday every month until
55:04until spring right summer? That's not accurate. Halloween every month? Holiday! A day that is a holly. That's fair. For fuck's sake. Unlike my finances. And stop tipping the payday loans people Okay Alright Hopefully I don't need to give them any of my money Sooner than later Because it's on top of like A million percent interest fee immediately I just don't understand why you do it to yourself I really don't I don't get it So how much is currently owed to earning Probably like A hundred dollars I think I paid it off actually I can pull it up but I think I paid that off already you better not what's the frequency of your borrowing um I mean on October 31st we had 50 150 150 150 yeah like I said October was especially bad but usually it's about once a week I'll borrow like$100 or$150 and typically it's just to be able to like get groceries or food or gas before I get paid again after paying all my bills okay is that all your debt?
56:13how much do you owe to them again? to who? Earning. Earning. I think I paid that off. Okay, so it's done. Yeah, earning. Delete it! Your account. Yes. Okay. So that's all your debts. That, uh, yeah, that should be it. Okay. Sure? Oh, well. Oh, for f***'s sake, what? Actually. What? There's always, why? It's bad. Oh, good. It's not terrible. I can pay it off. What is it? Because they don't even know because it's not in here. What is it? Well, I said it like the last. Hey, what is it? So I took out a loan because I was, let me just explain. So I had a tattoo appointment and it was like six months in advance.
56:58I had, I got the first one and I paid off the first one. And then the second one, unfortunately I had something where I had to pay something off. So I took out a loan for the second session, but it was, it wasn't necessary, but it was something that I wanted to get because I had like two really bad tattoos. Okay, so you bought it for a tattoo? Yes. How much? Uh,$1 ,200. And who? Uh, it's like one of those, oh, it's like a payday loan. Oh! A$1 ,200 damn dollar loan for a payday loan. For a tattoo. A tattoo payday loan. But it's really nice. What's the shut the f*** up? What's your minimum monthly payment?
57:35What is that? Yes. Well, it's a cover up. Great. It's a tattoo. Okay. I've seen a million. Yes. were really bad though and i had them for so long you have a little swastika no it wasn't a swastika it was just like stuff i got when i was really really young and i got one for a friend of mine and you know then we didn't need to borrow 1200 to get it now what's the minimum to payment on this 1200 i haven't been paying it huh i have not been paying you when did you check this out uh like two months ago why haven't you been paying it why okay so when i why it's a long story I can explain. I thought we were done.
58:10I legitimately did. Oh, you can explain all day. I just thought we were done and now we're not. What? What? Well, I lost my card and then to get the card on there to make the payment, it didn't work. So they wanted me to come in person and then I just never went in person. Why? No, no, no. Give me a answer. Why in your brain have you not gone? Why have you not been a adult? all these things not paying on your student loans not getting your damn insurance not taking the little quiz for the ticket oh why why why and then this why just why can't do it i want an answer i want any kind of insight into your life if i don't know i don't know what to do at the end of this i just wanted to forget that any of the debt exists but that's not how it works and you know that's how it works because you're not a five-year-old your brain is not literal mush so as many of you know i've been a big supporter of course careers for a long time i'm not just a partner i actually own stock and i'm an investor so why did i partner with course careers because i truly believe in what they're doing a lot of people have questions about online certifications versus traditional college degrees let me be clear i wouldn't put my name behind something unless i knew it worked The thing is, not everyone has the time or resources to spend four years in college or take on massive student loan debt.
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1:01:15I have an informant. It's not working. I've moved multiple. But it's not working. I've lived on my own since I was 17, and I, like, haven't needed. You've pushed it down the road, but it's not working. And now, like you said, I mean, you were a little wrong about what you think impacts the boyfriend, potential husband. But what does is if you guys try to qualify for loans together, like a mortgage, then all of a sudden this debt doesn't. Well, I mean, there are technical things for assets and whether or not what things become his. But even still, let's just pretend none of it's, you know, an asset or anything.
1:01:49And he's like, he will feel like he, you guys are a couple and you're taking on the dead together and you're burdening him with this. I don't want to do that. So it's not that you've made it by kicking the can down the road. You've kind of come to a boiling point and you're going to someone else and your relationship up. Damn, that's good. Yeah. No, that's accurate. Actually. No. It's just been me. Like, I've just been surviving by myself, and now it's like I have somebody else to worry about. I don't think you know what survival f*** is. I mean, I've been surviving. Dude, you've kicked the can down the road.
1:02:22You haven't been. For f***ing, you don't even know what the f*** minimum monthly payment is. I don't even know how to incorporate that into your budget. I could put my next bonus to it. I don't know what your payment is, and what's the next bonus? The end of this month, November. Fine. Do that. Just put the whole thing on it. Just do it. Just kill it. I'm sure interest and fees have occurred. Yeah. probably why do this yourself you've overdraft had overdraft fees of 370 dollars this year so far that's not terrible is it are you what are you what are you what are you in a year this is why you think you're surviving because you don't know what just even being halfway decent looks like zero draft overdrafts is what we consider okay okay overdraft not having enough money in your account you're still spending money no that's not okay and that has to be what overdraft fees are like 40 bucks a piece usually yeah it is okay so what are we doing what are we doing overdrafting 10 times 10 times in a damn year what are you doing you're averaging it out pretty bad we just completed the 10th month of the year so you're overdrafting once a month on average no that's not okay you make too much money to be overdrafting that's so stupid 147 dollars and checking it out at the time of this it's all are we surprised i don't think we're surprised for a single second Let's see, is there a line in here that's not bullsh**?
1:03:41Yoga. We decided yoga wasn't bullsh** because it's good health. Other than that, literally everything else is bullsh**. Okay? Happy Boat, Whataburger, Summer Moon, Uber, smoking it up, Uber and Uber. Guess what, guys? We don't like to take other people's car because they drive crazy. Well, we're Ubering everywhere. Goodwill, you never really know. concourse the core concourse project venmoing money out probably to go get food 10 bucks venmo 30 bucks venmo 21 bucks summer moon summer moon runway standard uh subscription mid journey we're paying for mid journey what the are we doing well that's my like i like i you know what i'm not even gonna bring it up you're right i don't need it but there you go amazon looping lils the concourse What is the concourse?
1:04:34It's like a club, like a music club. Well, you're addicted to it. Stop. More to the concourse. Amazon concourse. Amazon concourse. Smoke, smoke, sheen, Taco Bell, Duncan, Thomason's feet. Go inside getting some bulls**t properly. Oh, that's my cat. No, Thomason's feet is my cat. Well, you also went in and got some bulls**t from 7-Eleven after that. Juice Land, Ramen Tatsuya, Gasmith. That's fine. Rose's Cafe went in and got some bulls**t Bar Partners Games Chick-fil-A went in and got some bulls**t Courtyard Weirdo Concourse Concourse Cancourse Canteen Canteen Canteen Buddy's Burger Juice Land Golden Nail Lounge We went there again we just went there What the f**k are you doing Panda Express Load Off Fanny Gosh Smoke Smoke Juice Land Emerald Tavern That place is s**t Sheen Venmo Payne It was a friend's birthday.
1:05:30Is there a better one? Yeah, right down the road. It's 10 times better. Venmo payment. The food is just so bad. That's all work. That's really all work. Eating with coworkers. Emerald Tavern? Not Emerald Tavern, no. Point the mic towards your face. Point it towards your face. There you go. There's a better version down the road. I forgot the name of it, but it actually serves edible food. Oh, okay. And it's much more comfy. Emerald Tavern is literally horrendous. I don't know how they survived. Okay. McDonald's, McCoy's, McCoy's, Rojas Cafe and Torti, Steam Games Ace. She's a gamer. Stop. You already own games.
1:06:07Summer Moon, Spotify. We can listen to ads if we're spending$1 ,300 more than we make on a single day basis. And we're borrowing payday loans for tattoos. And we can't pay rent without using a damn thing. Okay. And the courtyard that I called out, that's a concert venue, by the way. Summer Moon, Taco, Mr. Taco Mexican. oh i thought it was middle eastern or something mr taco okay mood and pit panda express moody that's more concert concert concert mr taco mexican summer moon beijing walk mcdonald's every day that's all work it really is what are you talking about what are you talking about what are you talking about summer moon then why are we having all the grocery store purchases on that other card that you say are getting food if the other stuff is going and getting lunch with food then what are you doing with the other stuff then we're getting double food every day we're at work usually i'll buy for my coworkers don't don't they make money it's like i've already set the expectation it's like a weird place now where i can't be like no i don't want over here listen the thing is them you are borrowing from dave and earning and all that stuff you've set the expectation guess what you've set the expectation to flex that you're going to be giving them fees to pay for your rent let's stop that expectation let's stop both let's stop all these stupid expectations no more expectations you don't make enough money it's as easy as that it really is it's not even a hard conversation to say guys i looked at the budget can't really afford things like maybe i have cancer or something i don't know i'll make up something i don't give a do whatever it takes just stop just stop i'm getting engaged maybe in the next couple years I want to save up for a wedding.
1:07:50Okay? Literally anything. I don't care. Stop it. Okay? My voice hurts after this. This is so stupid. This is stupid. And stop the expectation of tipping your payday on people and everyone that f***ed you over. Okay? Yeah. That's. No more. I can't believe you do that. I can't believe you do that. I know. I can't believe you do that. Oh, f***. I'm about to make a budget for you. Before that, I'd like to ask you a few questions if you could. Oh, God. um
1:08:22that's you know I deserve that and the thing is I would click 20 % even when I shouldn't and if they're really nice to me I'll do 25 total income 4800 bucks right plus bonuses sometimes that next bonus is going to the payday loan okay so I'm crossing that off that is what is it's not a single set anywhere else that is what it's happening okay your debt payments outside of that 440 and 55 cents that's your debt what's your rent 16 to 1700 how do you define well why is it like it's all combined all of it i'll call it on the upper end 1700 okay okay does that include internet rent is insurance everything everything now internet a hundred dollars a month i didn't What kind of internet do you have?
1:09:15Spectrum. And they're terrible. Yeah. Spectrum. What else? What else? Does that cover all utilities? What else did you ask? Internet. Electric. Gas. Electric and gas are included. Okay. Renters insurance. Renters insurance. You know you don't like having insurance. No, I do have renters insurance. Do you pay for it separately? I do it once a year. Okay. That's fine. Phone bill. $100. Why is it so much? You own your phone. I don't own my phone who do you have AT &T and that's$100 a month yeah well the bill is$50 and then like I guess the payment on the phone is$50 is that that's owing on your phone yeah I own oh you asked me if I own my phone I said I own I don't know what I said when you're done and you pay it off switch to helium for$15 a month cheaper same towers as T-Mobile T-Mobile towers are the best towers in Austin by the way so there you go oh that's good okay but it's a hundred for now because you gotta pay off that damn phone which is like 10 more payments on it gas vroom vroom drive drive how much i i honestly don't really know probably three hundred dollars a month i drive really far for work okay we'll do 300 oh car insurance is going to be uh 350 300 350 or something like 350 okay tp fund anything else you need to survive makeup nails all that good stuff 100 bucks groceries 300 dollars use on meal plan meal plan cook twice a week prep prep prep prep prep prep prep prep prep prep okay then do it because you spent more than that huh 100 do your own nails my friends do their own nails and they look fine you get acrylics huh you get acrylics don't they do that it's like don't they do that that's what they do it's like 100 a minute where do they go can i get they do it at home acrylics i don't think you know what acrylics are are you guys getting a man he is getting married to her oh and she well you have to like learn he's passionate that's like a it's like an art oh we'll bring jake in and he'll fight you in the post show okay okay okay maybe we'll come we'll bring in our it's like 130 a month i would say for nails you're not doing it okay for sake you're taking out payday loans i do your priorities Is there even a point in making this budget?
1:11:32No, yeah, there is. That's the one thing that I didn't want to know. Medical healthcare, s*** like that. You got co-pays? What do you got, medications? $50 a month or a week. For? Medical dental vision. And then I have... Does that come out of your paycheck first, though? Yeah, it does. Co-pays, s*** like that. Nothing medical. Okay, Jim? Gym is Yoga So$100 if I do it monthly But like$12 if I do it every session But I've learned recently you can do less How much to budget? A month Let's just do$100 Okay Probably just go cheaper but whatever You have any pets? Yes How much for the food? $20 every two weeks $40 you have pet insurance?
1:12:26no how old is the cat? she's like 10 we're probably not going to be able to get pet insurance yeah she's older or if you do it would be ridiculously expensive she might be 8 I got her she wasn't quite a kitten anything else that needs to be in your budget that we have not put in there no I don't think so I apologize for any garlic that's been flowing your way I stress ate croutons during lunch. Okay.
1:12:58I had peppers for breakfast and it was like a, I was burping peppers on the way in here. I was worried you'd smell it. You got the damn thing. Your life is so easy. You don't understand. If you just budge like a adult, you're being so dumb with your money, my dude. My dude, you have an extra$1 ,269.45 on a monthly basis. it can be and is if you actually don't f*** around and spend all your stupid money on stupid dumb s*** okay that's a lot of money okay so you're paying with the bonus you're paying off the payday and then you're immediately paying off Dave and the close credit and the quick silver and then you never think about them again and that's the end of this f***ing month because your life is simple and you've chose to make it hard for no reason emergencies pop up I do get that but come on this is so dumb your car five two six nine with all that crazy interest you pay it off in four months so five months from now the car's done this is so stupid dude i can't believe you've done this to yourself student loans start paying on them make it your and that's including your budget by the way and then mandatory payment until they're paid off okay stop being a dumb with that then what takes you to survive without your debt now is about$3 ,100 times that by six.
1:14:23So you need about$18 ,600 in your emergency fund savings. Okay, so that one takes a while. Call that about a year of saving up. A year? No, it's going to be less than that. Let's call it nine. $18 ,000? Yeah. I don't think I ever had that amount of money. No, that's why your finances are. Yes. You need to do the basic minimum requirements and that is the six month emergency fund needed to survive. Your income's large, but your living expenses are also large because your income is large and you've kind of inflated that. But you have enough left over. Okay, let's do the actual math. So the$18 ,000, what's times that by the now extra, because your car's paid off, you have an extra$1 ,500 left on a monthly basis.
1:14:59Congratulations. Yep, that takes a year. So a year and five months, you have a fully funded emergency fund, you're debt-free except for your student loans. It's perfectly fine. You're still not even 30 yet. And then contribute 20 % towards retirement on a monthly, yearly basis. And you can 50, 30, 20, 50 % on your needs, which you can easily do with your income. 30 % on your wants. It's a lot of fun money. It's a lot of money to spend on fun. A lot of clubbing, a lot of drinking. Have fun. Good job. Congratulations. A lot of smoking. Die young. I don't smoke that much. Well, your bill does not reflect that, but okay.
1:15:31And then also 20 % to invest in and you will have a very successful retirement and it's all chill and easy. This is stupid that you have this. This is a choice. This is dumb. I'm upset. This conversation, a lot of it was alarming. I hope you follow this. I want to do a follow-up with you really soon. I want to do a follow-up with you in five months and all that debt should be gone. And if you come back five months and I will push you to come back. If you come back and that is not taken care of, unless something or emergency comes up that you need to prove to me, then I'm going to be legitimately pissed.
1:16:02Spending a budget, you overspent, zero out of 10. Debt, payday loan, not paid on student loans, zero out of 10. Emergency fund, nothing, zero out of 10. How is your retirement? I didn't have a statement. What was your retirement? It was okay. I took out some for COVID to move. but i need to turn it back on i need to turn it back it's not even on not right now what's your retirement at uh like how does this get worse one out of ten real estate zero out of ten hammer financial score 0.5 out of ten guys coming here on the post show we'll have jake and her fight we'll also bring up more information because they know that her entire life we'll bring up more drama that's where we get into all the extra tea and stuff about their lives maybe We will go into this marriage situation.
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