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Podcast Episode Summary: Failed Artist Can't Handle Poverty
Episode Details
- Podcast Title: Financial Audit
- Episode Title: Failed Artist Can't Handle Poverty
- Host: Caleb Hammer
- Guest: Savannah, a 25-year-old from Austin, Texas
- Date: [Insert Date Here]
Episode Overview In this episode, Savannah shares her financial struggles as a young adult trying to navigate the complexities of her finances, including debts from credit cards, student loans, and a car loan. The conversation dives deep into her current financial situation, spending habits, and the influence of her upbringing on her financial literacy.
Key Discussion Points
Savannah's Background
- Age: 25
- Occupation: Digital image editor for a tech company, earning approximately $3,600 per month net.
- Education: Two degrees (BFA in Studio Art and BS in Radio, Television, and Film), and a certificate in full-stack web development from a coding boot camp.
Current Financial Situation
- Monthly Income: $3,600 (before taxes)
- Monthly Expenses:
- Rent: $890
- Utilities: $70
- Car Insurance: $129
- Groceries: $300
- Student Loans: ~$220
- Miscellaneous: Frequent dining out and entertainment, contributing to negative cash flow.
Debt Breakdown
- Total Debt: Approximately $152,000
- Student Loans: $32,190
- Car Loan: $16,634 with an 18% interest rate
- Credit Card Debt: Multiple accounts with varying balances and interest rates, some exceeding 30%.
Key Challenges
- Spending Habits: Savannah admits to irresponsible spending, including dining out and entertainment, leading to debt accumulation.
- Lack of Financial Education: Savannah cites her parents' lack of financial literacy as a factor in her own financial mismanagement.
- Responsibility and Accountability: Caleb challenges Savannah to take responsibility for her financial decisions rather than deflecting blame onto her parents.
Major Themes
Financial Literacy
- Education Gaps: Savannah expresses that she was not adequately taught about financial management, which has led to poor decision-making in adulthood.
- Influence of Upbringing: The discussion highlights how parental advice and experiences can shape one’s understanding of finances, often leading to poor habits if they lack financial knowledge.
Spending vs. Saving
- Impulse Purchases: Savannah struggles with impulse spending, often prioritizing immediate gratification over long-term financial health.
- Emergency Fund: The importance of having an emergency fund is discussed, with Savannah acknowledging she has not built one.
The Path Forward
- Budgeting Class: Caleb offers Savannah access to a free budgeting class to help her get on track.
- Debt Management Strategy: Discussion includes strategies for paying off debt, emphasizing a focus on smaller debts first to build momentum.
- Long-term Goals: Savannah expresses a desire to be in a better financial position by the time she turns 30, with aspirations of home ownership by then.
Key Takeaways
- Take Responsibility: A recurring message is the importance of personal accountability in financial decisions.
- Budgeting is Crucial: Understanding one's finances through budgeting is essential to avoid falling into deeper debt.
- Financial Education: There's a critical need for better financial education to equip young adults with the knowledge to manage their money effectively.
Future Actions
- Savannah is encouraged to find a part-time job to supplement her income while looking for full-time employment in her field.
- A call with her parents is suggested to further discuss her financial history and gather their perspective.
Conclusion This episode of Financial Audit provides an insightful look into the financial struggles of young adults, emphasizing the need for personal responsibility, education, and strategic planning in managing finances. Savannah's journey highlights the challenges many face when learning to navigate financial independence and the impact of familial influences on financial decisions.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. Hi, I'm Savannah. I'm 25. I'm from Austin, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. So what do you do here for a living in Austin? So I work as a digital image editor for a tech company. Okay, very cool. And how much are we making in that? So I'm making$3 ,600 a month, and that's after taxes. That's your net? $3 ,600? Yes. Okay, because I have here... I said you work 70... This is... Hold on. so that's not what happened here yeah brought in 1 ,735 so that was like an exception because i did take some time off took like an extended lunch um to go to lunch yeah to go to my roommate's um white coat ceremony so that was like so that lost half your pay yeah it's just you know i wanted to be there to like support them and i was like so you're gone for two weeks that's your extended lunch no i was gone for like i think it was like two hours instead of 30 minutes how do you lose half your pay from that that doesn't make sense i you make 3600 after taxes 3600 a month 1800 a paycheck normally yeah but this was after working almost 80 hours 76 hours what are you talking about i'm talking about like two weeks so that's like 80 hours a week is you do not work 80 hours a week do you normally i work 80 hours a week just not at that point that's why i had the 1735 and then it's okay 1800 no this makes sense sorry that makes sense so this is your two-week paycheck you don't work 80 hours a week so this is your two-week paycheck so that's not that different yeah one seven three five so in this case 3470 is what you would have made this month but usually it's closer to 3 ,600 yes okay that makes more sense yeah sorry no it's okay i had a little disconnect there i probably looked like a dummy but that's okay no it's not good and it's probably going to look something similar this month just because i did take time off to go to the doctors so it'll probably look similar to that too do you not have like paid no so we don't have any paid time off um we have three days that we can call out but we don't three days This is per?
2:21Per year. What the f***? It's a 12 month contract. What the f***? This is a contract? Yes. When's the 12 months done? Next month. And then what? Then what are you doing for a living? Then I'm currently applying to jobs. Oh. Part time. So nothing's lined up? No. I haven't gotten any callbacks. And then even people who are trying to come back to their contract, they're not getting any luck either. Great. What were you doing before this 12 months? So I was working. Well, okay. So I did last month last year was kind of weird. So it was like I was working at a gallery while doing part time at school.
2:56And then I worked as an overnight stalker while I was transitioning. Transitioning. Okay. Yeah. Transitioning from the gallery to the new job that I have. You have a degree. Yes. And so I have two degrees. I graduated with studio art, a BFA and then a BS in radio, television and film from ET. Okay. But that was back in 2020. Okay. so then last year well okay so the end of 2020 i guess 2022 um i went back to school for a six month coding boot camp oh boot camps are good i mean i like certifications through course careers and there's good boot camps around here there's a lot of good things like that what would you do so i went for full stack web development and i'm going towards doing full front end web development okay so you found that's your passion or just that's the money it's very competitive market right now yeah that's the downside when i found out was like right when the end of my coding boom camp it was kind of like oh well the market's actually really you're in a decent town for it but even still it's like yeah it's you're going to be competing against a lot of other people all right so what is your financial situation what are we looking at here today i would say it's pretty bad so like oh okay so whenever i went to college in the first like first time i went to school um my parents they just gave me like a credit card and like here we don't want you to work um while you're in school so we're just gonna give you a credit card and then you'll be fine we'll help pay it off and so i was like okay wait but the credit card was under your name or theirs it was under my name so they didn't give you a credit card they convinced you to take out a credit card yes i guess but like so it was me and my sibling um because we're on one on one yeah so So I have one and it was 300 starting off and then it kind of.
4:47You were both on it. Someone was an authorized user. No, they had their own credit card. So they went for both of us. So your parents convinced you both to open up credit cards. Yes. Okay. So they were like, yeah, we want you to build credit. So here's a credit card. And they said, we're paid off. So we just want you to go to school. So then you'll be fine. And even. Okay, no offense, but this is not one credit card that we're going through. You also have like a really stupid car debt. Did your parents make you get really stupid car debt? Not. Well, okay. So for that, they pretty much had like no money.
5:29So they were just like, here. So what does your parents having money have to do with it? It's your life. You're an adult. Well, it's like. Do you blame your parents for everything? Well, right now, they're kind of like, they didn't really teach me anything about, like, Oh, come on. No one gets taught this shit. No one gets taught that in America. I mean, if you're lucky, you are, but you learn it yourself. Well, they didn't even teach you about, like, spending. But if you're just blaming people immediately, like, what the f***? That's just, like, deflection ultimate right out of the gate. Well, like, they didn't even tell us, like, I didn't even know about the whole, like, Oh, only have rent that's 30 % of your income.
6:03Yeah, me either. I didn't find that out until maybe, like, last year? Yeah. That's how that happens. But you're blaming them now. Well, because even right now, their situation is really crap. And I'm like... Who cares? That's not you. Like, still, though, it's like... Oh, my... All right. Okay. Well, we'll get into that. Now I know why Brandon gave us interrogation lighting today. And they didn't even just do that to me. Okay. They also did it for, like, all my other siblings, too, so... Okay. Calm down. And then... Okay. What? So I also have student loan debt. I know. We're going to go through your debt.
6:45Their advice was to just take out all the loans. Like tuition, any money they can give me, I accepted. And I also did summer school. You mean like student loan providers? Yes. So the government student loans. And they told that to me, my brother, and then pretty much my other siblings too. Like, oh, we don't have money for college, so just take out the loans and we'll help you pay for it after you're done with college. And now that those are back. It's a bit weird. I would love to hear their side of it, though, if they would agree that that's exactly how that transpired. I would say it's like not their exact first, but definitely like, hey, do the FAFSA, do this, and then we will pay for it.
7:28We will pay for it. They took out the Parent Plus loans. And they were like, well, what about the ones you took out? They said they would pay for it? They said, don't worry about it now. Wait till you graduate and then you can get a job. You'll be fine. State of financial literacy in this country. Yeah. All right. Give yourself a score. Zero to ten. Zero being the worst, ten being the best. Where do you think you are finances? One. I'm going to say one. Okay. Well, that's fair enough. If you want your hammer financial score, it's free in the description below. This is Ohio. ladies and gentlemen this is a pile yeah paypal credit paypal credit i've had i've had it's it's weird to call this fun but i've had fun with paypal credit because it's like a good way to zero percent finance things and like finesse the system and you know that's not how you're doing it no what did you do on this so i actually accidentally signed up for it um so i was buying a camera on ebay and it was like oh finance it if you do like the paypal credit and i was like okay great so i applied and then i didn't hear anything back from it and then it was like oh well here's three hundred dollars that you can get and i was like okay that's kind of weird but then i couldn't have access to it so then i applied again and then it got me the paypal credit so i actually have two paypal accounts the paypal card and the paypal credit and they said you could get 300 for it that one the original balance of the credit i think was like 1500 yes the limit is 1500 you have 1200 13.85 with 30.44 of interest accruing in a minimum monthly payment of 42 yeah but when you got the product yeah how are you how are you expecting to pay for the product in the first place i was ebay product i was gonna like pay it the minimum monthly and no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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10:00Pay for it I was just not going to get it Because then I didn't have the money for it So you applied to buy it and you thought That's not an accident though You applied for it You applied for the credit, that's not an accident You just got approved Well I mean like if they approve it Then that's great Then I'll be like okay then I can use that Which is what happened That's not an accident, you applied for it I didn't understand what the two separate accounts were I thought they were the same account You shouldn't apply for anything that you don't understand Okay No? I mean yes I agree with that I think at that time I was like Oh well you know It's fine because then I have an extra credit card So then if I need that for emergencies I'll just leave it alone Which that didn't happen So I'm guessing I mean just from the sounds of it Now, I, some of the things that you said, okay, correct.
10:56Like, if they said, just go, I mean, they're your parents. They're who you listen to. They're like, just go, take it. Yeah, that's, that's. Now, some of the deflection that you're like, oh, but they didn't teach me and all this stuff like that. It's like, okay, come on. No one else gets taught that. And, like, they didn't convince you to build your balances on the credit cards. But I'm assuming through the lack of knowledge from them, lack of knowledge to you. have you ever heard of this little fancy thing known as an emergency fund no actually okay so credit cards uh they don't really cover they're not really good for emergencies because they accumulate interest you'll never beat it with your investments really unless you have some weird unicorn we have an emergency fund to cover those expenses but if you do have to put it on a credit card which sometimes that does happen in situations where people do not have a fully funded emergency fund yet, then you cut down on everything, you cut down on absolutely everything, everything, everything, everything, until you pay off that debt and then build up the fully funded emergency fund.
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15:00Also, you just can you afford this? I can kind of afford. Spoiler alert! Late payments coming! Can you afford this? I guess with the late payments no. And the account is closed. So I actually can't use the account anymore. Good. Why is it closed? Because I couldn't pay it. So then I had to catch up with the late fees and late payments. And so they closed the account. So I can't use it anymore. You have a Disney card. How the f***ing, why the f*** do you have a Disney card? so ironically we were at Disney and they were offering a promotion we'll give you I think it was like at the time like five hundred dollars if you sign up for Disney car and you get approved and I was like oh that seems like a good idea if we go to Disney so I signed up and then they approved it and if you spend a certain amount you'll get that money back so then I spent it for another Disney vacation to get the rewards dollars and at that time my parents were also like oh we'll help you pay it back and this thing would they what i'm just i just need to know would they agree would they agree if i called them right now would they say yes that's what we said we said we will pay back all of her little debts if she takes out the debts they'd probably say yes but but but but they'll probably like oh well she's an adult she can pay it well i mean yeah no and you took it out it was still your responsibility but of course i mean there could be some manipulation behind it they said they would pay for and they really tried to convince you to get it but they would agree with that i mean now they probably would
16:37probably i mean yeah they're just kind of like no we yeah it's your debt you take care of it yeah but would they agree that they convinced you to take it out and saying they'd pay for it well my mom was there when i signed up for the card and she was like okay yeah just do this and it'll be fine. And I was like, okay. That's different than saying she'll pay for it. Saying it'll be fine is different than I will pay for this. Well, for a bit, they were kind of helping me pay for it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Did they say they would pay for it?
17:10They didn't say those exact words.
17:15The f***? Why say that then? Why? I mean, that's just like an immediate, just like, you're just trying to, like, you're bulls***. okay on the disney card the special little disney princess card limit three thousand dollars but we're over that by 51.25 great
17:36oh what it said it's it said it's a limit why are you purchasing 374 dollars 21 cents if it's accruing 53 dollars and you're only making the minimum monthly payment and it's at its limit now it's above the limit because of the interest rate why are you possibly purchasing $374.21 I kind of So you get rewards dollars if you use it for groceries Yeah but why are you putting that on a Card that is at the limit Because I don't Have money so then when I pay the card And if that's your money I have My dude I have this fresh Little document here Bullshit dude with 7 % of your spending Going out I don't have money i don't have money i don't have money is that what you said miscellaneous bull things that do not improve or benefit your life in any way whatsoever 14.7 percent of your spending i don't have money that is a choice you're spending it all dude
18:40what's the balance of this from from so or is it just these 374 dollars of purchases Also what are you talking about What are you talking about You went to the Alamo Draft House Living Tombstone Chick-fil-A Alliance event This isn't I don't have money This is you spending on a bull The f*** are you talking about lying to me like that Come on I forgot that I did use it to buy tickets To a concert Because they had pre-sale prices How do you think you can afford to go to a concert If you have late payments on other things that are coming I would just pay it but you can't afford and then you went out to eat twice what's that little smirk no it's just you know like i did forget that i used it and it wasn't until you ever budgeted in your life i tried i had like a spreadsheet of like what needs to be paid and when and then when i calculated it it was negative how'd that go i stopped doing it why because i didn't have money for food or gas why don't you care I do Because someone who cares would continue it And try to figure out a way Someone who cares would pick up a part time job if they don't have the money Which by the way again Minimum 25 % of your spending went to bull So last year a lot Happened and that's kind of why I haven't Gotten a part time job What happened?
20:01So one I moved I did make a bad choice on that Everyone moves okay so what So I ended up taking up an apartment with 1700 rent You're in a 1700 rent place not right now i moved out okay but that's after paying the lease break which was a whole month's rent on top of the month's rent yeah um so i was there for three months and then my cat that i had she got sick so i had to take her to the vet you didn't have pen insurance i did not have pen insurance because get pen insurance when i did they didn't cover anything because it was per her pre-existing condition she was 16 oh um so each vet visit was like 275 and then the third I went I had to put her down So that was Another like 200 To creamator Why'd you move into a 1700 Because I didn't have any money To move anywhere else What wait what do you mean So I didn't have money for security deposit And my credit score tank And Are you saying you were already there Yeah it was really bad last year Like early last year because I wasn't able to work full time Because I was doing No, no, no.
21:09What was the – it was$1 ,700. What was it before? It was$1 ,100. I was sharing it with my brother. So it was like split. It was like – And was he staying there or did he move out and that's how the cost went up for you? He moved out. So you were covering the double, his portion. Well, I moved from a two-bedroom to a one-bedroom and that one-bedroom was$1 ,700. So you did move, which is not complexes. I used – so I kind of – If you couldn't – no offense, but if you couldn't scrap together enough for a security deposit, How do you think you could afford$600 more a month in rent? I just started my new job and I was just trying to scrape by.
21:44But if you're trying to scrape by, does$600 a month more? I'm not even saying put things on credit cards, but I'd put a security deposit on a credit card. At that point, it would save money. And that's still a terrible idea, but it's a better idea than what you did. Okay, either way, you broke the lease. What's your rent now? Right now, I only pay$890. so it's more like okay what should be around um and then i pay about 70 to utility utilities yeah and i split it with my roommate or split so that's only my portion so the total i think is like like 1770 a month um between like for both of us for a two-bedroom we'll teach you how to budget i'm gonna create a budget for you and we're gonna go through things but you're gonna go through our budgeting class we're putting we put you through it for free i'll teach you everything you need to know about budgeting you'll stick to a budget there okay so what do we got going on here dentistry this is what you owe 200 yes so yeah that's a well i got because my insurance wasn't going to cover the the world moves fast your work day even faster pitching products drafting reports, analyzing data.
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25:15So why did you not pay this off instead of going to those things? I didn't have the money. Am I are my words not flowing to that side of the table? Like all of them are only half of them making it? Why did you not pay this instead of? Instead of? Instead of? The other$900 you spent on both. The instead of is the key part. Didn't have money, but you went and spent it on that stuff. So why did they go to this stuff instead of this? I don't know. Okay. Okay.
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27:03So that one was my choice. Oh, we've taken responsibility. This is interesting. Because I decided to go back to school and that's where I got the coding boot camp certificate. This? Yes. This was the cause of a coding boot camp? Yes. Through who? Through UT. Oh, that's an expensive one. Yeah, it's a six month. I've looked at that one before. Yeah. It's a good one, but it's always expensive. Yeah. And so I was looking for a career change because I wasn't really making a whole lot of money. And that's when I noticed that like my bills I was falling behind. So. Well, that's because you're spending, dude.
27:37That's because you're spending. Trust me. You in your situation, more income is not going to solve your problems. You're just going to inflate your lifestyles around that. I would love you to work in this field if this is what you want to do. But that's not what solves it. That's not what solves your problem. Yeah. I'd say it's a combination of last year because other stuff happens. and then trying to adjust this year. Well, and also my car. What happened? The car that I have here? It was a different car that I was done paying off. Yeah. So I only had$50 left to pay. And then the hailstorm hit Austin in September.
28:10Yeah, and you had insurance. Yes, so it totaled the car. And you had insurance. I did have insurance. So I did have the insurance to make a down payment on the car that I have now. But my credit score was tanked. And I didn't have anyone. I didn't know anyone that had credit. credit what was the down payment you got i got 8 500 oh me oh my gosh when we get to this car knowing that that makes it even worse yeah oh stay tuned for that ladies and gentlemen if you like car loans that make you shiver wither up and die yeah and then i also but you're planning to work part-time you said at the end of this i'm looking for a full-time job so i've been applying to four-time jobs but in the meantime what jobs are you applying to so i'm looking for um full stack development jobs yeah but also like front and web development jobs and then i also recently applied to a qa tester job are you open to doing any kind of internships or anything like that as well getting a foot in the door i was because the market's a bit harder right now yeah and that's what i was looking at too whether or not that's something i could do because i did see a lot of like oh well you need six to eight years experience or you need to be in a computer science degree I mean obviously they want the best of the best candidates and there is an oversupply of people in this field right now just for where the job market is if you had a lot of experience in talent and AI that's where people are shoving out money right now but that's again that's for the people at the top of that game it's really interesting to follow that market I've been mainly applying to jobs that are here in Austin but I'm going to start looking elsewhere and see if you might have to go more for smaller companies that have you know lower pay available so like people with that large amount of experience might not accept the job but it allows you to build experience and a resume and that's kind of why i'm here too is like to figure out what like with the amount of debt i have what can i manage or if i just need to shut everything down and then you said you've been applying for part-time jobs yes what so chick-fil-a alma draft house since i've gone how have you not gotten chick-fil-a I haven't heard yet I got some grilled nuggies I'm losing weight guys I'm down like 3 pounds and they have good food and I got some grilled nuggies yesterday and so it's a bunch of bunch of twinks and tweens yeah it's just like unless they're only looking for twinks and tweens I don't see how you're not getting yeah I haven't heard back well when did you apply?
30:36I applied to specifically Chick-fil-A like last this last weekend so very recent oh okay well that's 3 days ago so it's not okay well that isn't shocking yeah yeah i mean apply for everything like that um obviously that's not where we're hoping to stay but you do because you said when does this end again it my last days on the 31st oh but my last paycheck's on the fifth okay um and so yeah oh yeah because we all need some income to replace yeah hmm a good question and i've looked No, if you could look this up for me. If you're on a contract position, you don't qualify for unemployment, do you?
31:13Because it has a known end. So I've heard, but the most I could get would be like$5.12, I think, per week. And that's according to someone that I know that just finished up the contract. And the contract requires three months break. And there's no guarantee they can hire me back. The Salimé for the boot camp,$248 a month. And it's almost 14%. And that one is automatic payment So I haven't been late on that I've been making the payments Because it kind of goes through Until you're negative in a checking account Another spoiler Is this just insurance Or is this a DAT2 insurance That is my insurance And it went up 20 bucks I think this year This is the car That is not the car The car is coming yeah oh okay a 32.02 percent personal loan worse than a credit card yeah worse than like bad credit cards of 5 799 dollars and 50 cents are we blaming this on the parents again or what the going on here that was me a few years ago struggling to try and make it on my own and they sent a check in the mail and i was trying to pay rent oh no and i thought it was a good idea Oh no it was one of those loan checks Yeah Obviously they Wouldn't exist if people didn't take them out But I don't think I've ever met anyone who actually took it out That's wild And instead of working more I did work two jobs At a time I was working 50 hours But again it's like low paying jobs Sure but I mean if we're just trying to survive again I bet your spending did not help I mean come on but I don't have access to the documents then so I don't know for sure I'd rather work 50 to 60 hours then instead of taking out a 32.02 % interest rate of death because this thing is going to take forever to pay off $5 ,799.15 oh that was the original thank you you've heard this forever no it's so bad it's$3 ,000 what are you talking about yeah so they had the thing of like oh well if you apply for more they would just hold off on you owing money so that's kind of why that balance had grown to that bad was because i could have many times did you do that did once and it was because it was towards the holidays you're addicted to that 130 dollar minimum payment this is yeah we're making little progress here right yeah it's a 44 month loan okay listen personal finance is hard and i struggled with it for a long time until i personally educated myself we decided to create resources that can actually help people at an affordable price.
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35:45Interest fees? $34.75 of fees? What? Oh, is it a late fee? Oh, it was a late fee. Yeah. We're having late fees. Are we going out to eat? Are we getting concert tickets? No, the answer's no. What you say is no is the answer. Okay, no. Proud of you. You made it. This wasn't going to the grocery store. Again, you f*** me. I believed you because you're a human being Sitting across from me So I believed you Patreon $21.65 Patreon Better be subscribing to our post show No but that's only$5 a month I actually Didn't know that was attached to the card I thought it was attached to my debit card Does it matter either way You can't afford it you have late fees Yeah I just thought What is a$20 hour a month patreon so shopping is hard right but i found a better way stitch fix online personal styling makes it easy i just give my stylist my size style and budget preferences i order boxes when i want and how i want no subscription required and he sends just for me pieces plus outfit recommendations and styling tips i keep what works and send back the rest it's so easy Make style easy.
37:05Get started today at stitchfix.com slash Spotify. That's stitchfix.com slash Spotify. It's a Patreon that has, like, translated novels on it. And they update every day with, like, chapters. And I'm a big reader. Okay, you can't afford it. Go to the library. Congratulations. We have a nice one here. I've been there. It's good. It's pretty nice. It's just the travel. Oh, no. Roads. you pay a lot for your car use it oh care credit yeah not when I used to cover my cat's bills when I I had the cat insurance and that's when I found out they weren't going to cover anything but that's also when I found out she had a heart defect she's alive she's dead I'm sorry that sucks pets are the best cats and dogs love them all yeah and I had her for 16 years so that's really hard dude we have fees again we can't be having fees even in a sad moment we can't be having fees you need a tissue if you want i know i'd be sad i couldn't know i like it's like the worst day ever losing what's essentially like a sibling
38:24747 dollars and five cents on here interest charging 17 dollars 13 cents fees told dollars and 20 cents and minimum payment of 30 and i did catch up on that one because that one was always overdraft and it did reduce the original balance so originally it was 1200 and then as i've been paying it off they've been reducing the balance you may qualify for our employment highly depends on the details capital one we continue we're on uh one two three four five six seven now nine nine debt 25 years old capital one was my fault okay go on i used to work at a craft store and it had deals and that was when i deals that was when i first moved into a better apartment than where i was living at before no it's a bad deal 30 interest and then i kind of just used that to help pay for rent or for At the time, decorations and furniture and things for my apartment.
39:35$48 of interest. The limits of$2 ,000 or at$1 ,946.58. So, the$68 minimum of payment. 30 % interest. I'm working on paying that one off. I think we have different definitions of working. Apple. Because you have every card. You have every card. owned to mankind $1 ,213.76 okay with a$40 minimum monthly payment the balance has only gone up so that's great interest$27.82 27.24 % interest okay what was that? so that one was defined as my iPad which I do use iPad iPad. I do use every day. This is the most iPad's ever been used. Really? Yes. I swear most people buy an iPad and then it sits on a table uncharged for the remainder of its lifetime.
40:31No I did to read to watch TV to draw on all the works. You don't have a computer you don't have. My I used to have a MacBook but that died and I didn't have money for a new MacBook. It works. It works. Watching TV. I mean I'd get a Kindle for like a couple hundred bucks. I do have a Kindle. This is a thousand dollars. Yes. A thousand two hundred thirteen dollars. You could have got like a three hundred dollar Kindle. right i guess i could you just wanted something nice and you went into debt for it come on okay i do it's just i was also looking for procreate too because that's procreate and that was that's an art program uh-huh and that was the main reason why i got the ipad a want yes yeah how does it get bigger this is the biggest one besides the sally may yeah wells fargo that was from that original credit card from a long time ago that just got worse.
41:27The$300. It started at$300 and went to$4 ,923.05. Yes. I did close that account. Close all the accounts. You're not a credit card person. Use the Fizz card if you're going to use a card to build credit. You are not a credit card person. You need to close all these accounts, chop up the cards. You cannot have access to these. You just can't. You're irresponsible. You can't. You have no capability of managing this by any means. You're probably great at many aspects of life This you're not And that's okay Admit your flaws And fix them Cut it Don't allow yourself to be But that one actually What's the limit on this?
42:08That one originally was$5 ,500 But since it's closed I've just been reducing it Because it just built interest Because the minimum payment was like$150 And so right now the interest is at 1 % For 12 months for 12 months when does 12 months end i think august of this year that's basically coming up right around the corner yeah and we're still at 4 923 99.21 cents of interest uh is your minimum monthly payment yeah
42:39yeah and they were trying not to get me to close it but i was like no i'm not paying yeah capital one car vroom vroom that is the car yes zoom zoom what did you get what's the car It's a 2015 CRV, Honda. At$16 ,634.62. The minimum monthly payment of$441. Yeah. In your situation, you have no job coming up. That's scary. Yeah. I remember the interest rate being bad. What is it? Because it's not on here. 18%. Are you? Yeah. Well, that's. And it's over five years. And you put how much down on it again? I put $6 ,500 Okay, you put$6 ,500 down on this car You owe$16 ,634 On it An 18 % interest But it's only worth$10 ,000 by the way Yeah, I was looking for a car That was sturdy Sturdy?
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43:39Yeah Girl, you're not like my 600 pound life or something What do you need sturdy for? What are you hauling around sturdy? You just need a sedan to get you from A to B safely for a few years Sturdy What sturdy were you looking for? I was looking for a car that wasn't going to break down in like That doesn't mean having to get a Honda CRV At a terrible deal, terrible interest rate So another thing is that because it was around the time when all the hailstorms hit It was hard I've been here five and a half years When was this? So this was September So this is when all of Round Rock dealerships, their cars got crushed I remember that Yeah.
44:15And so I was looking at different options. And, like, the dealership that I went to, they didn't have a whole lot of cars. And so that was one of the cars that they had. I was like, can I get a car? There's dealerships all over town, not just in Round Rock. In South Austin there, in Central Austin there, in West Austin there. I went to the one in South Austin. Okay. Yeah. Go to Central Austin. Go to West Austin. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't find any cars that, like, work. How long did you look for a car? For a few weeks. Ding, ding, ding. There it is. I mean, just a few weeks. like in a tough car market especially when some of the cars get destroyed from a hailstorm like i don't think you're patient enough you also probably you wanted to get something nicer than you could of i wanted something that wasn't banged up on the outside like i yeah i get that i get the want but did it could you did it make sense though because first of all you only see it when you're outside of the car it's like as long as there's not internal damage i'm just i'm just trying to get you to survive i want you to have the car that you want but just like you've with where the balance is and with where the down payment is you know like your position is like you've lost 50 of your money on this car yeah yeah i definitely was trying to get a car in a hurry for sure um okay yeah sorry it's okay it's a lot dude that's the point of this conversation getting called out on the very first time everyone thinks they're living the good life everyone thinks they're doing okay things aren't that bad you're getting called out on it this is the wake-up call that is critical for the people that are coming on the show and it's a lot yeah and i think the frustrating part was that i was so close to paying off my old car yeah and i was so excited to have that extra money but even with the insurance man if we just looked at a ten thousand dollar beater that ac may have sucked it may have been dinged up on the outside may not have even been the most comfortable but would have gotten you from a to b for a few years to come safely you could have put you could have done you could have put half down with the insurance money you just you went with a twenty thousand dollar car yeah i thought it was a at the time i thought it was a better option than getting a new car that would have cost a lot more.
46:37Because even my sister around that time, she also got a new car. And that was, like, that was bad too for her. So I was trying not to, I don't know. I was just trying to find something safe. I get it. And at least Hondas, they last a while. and that that is like i mean it's not like yes cars get safer every year but it's not like magically a car from 10 years ago is going to kill you the moment you step inside of it you know it's like that's that's one of the things that american consumers when it comes to buying cars and want to justify overspending immediately tell themselves to justify things it's the safety it's the safety yeah they weren't death traps 10 years ago you know this is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers.
47:32We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew. I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. Oh, yeah. this one's nine years old so i mean you you know that yeah um and don't get me wrong when you're getting at the car market it was harder than it is today and it's still pretty yeah but i know you could have gotten something ten thousand dollars it's the old version of the dave ramsey two thousand dollar car is ten thousand today yeah so definitely yeah kind of i was definitely in a rush for that but you still would have saved more money in the long term searching out the looking process for two months in ubering during that time like you would have saved more money federal student loans yeah highest one at 5.05 percent i did sign up for the idr for that um and that's kind of what reduced the original balance which would have been like 200 something a month but it's still like what is it now it's like 109 a month okay we owe 30 32 190 dollars and 42 cents
49:00at 109 a month i guess yeah now what is this so that one's also a ut loan this is different yeah so it's labeled under a different loan i'm so confused it's only 929 but you have a late fee past$240. What are you doing? So that one... Come on, dude. I mean, this is just basic. Yeah. That one's going to be along with the other ones of I'm trying to pay, but by the time I could make a payment... No, you're not. You're not trying to pay. Again,$900 on... You're not trying to pay. I'm sorry. I'm not going to allow you to bull yourself because you are not trying. I'm sure if you put the effort, I'm sure there's so many things that you try it that you have to kill it.
49:51You know, maybe on the art side and stuff, you absolutely kill it that when you try. You know what trying looks like and what you've done here is not trying. Correct? Yes. Come on. I'll see you. I want you to be real with yourself because if you put real effort in to managing your finances and budgeting, real trying, you would not have a$40 missed payment. Oh my gosh. It really kills. Oh, so you didn't even pay for breaking the lease. You still owe$800? Yeah. Oh. Every death that just stumbles in your life, you're just like, hmm, that's... Yeah. You owe$600 to your parents? Yes. Four? We're going to go on a cruise next month.
50:34No, no, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not. My dad paid for the tickets, and he's like, yeah, you can just pay me back. That's not your dad paying for the tickets. That's not your dad paying for the tickets. That's you borrowing money from your dad. Yeah. And, yeah, so it's... So you're not in a solid position with, like, paid time off. You're not in a part-time job that offers paid time off. On this cruise, you're just not going to be working? You're not going to be making any kind of income? Girl, you can't afford to go on this cruise? That's why I'm trying to at least hurry up and get a part-time job starting next week, if I can.
51:05How long is the cruise? It's the, I think, 13th to the 17th? So it's, like, from a Thursday... It's a four-day cruise? Okay, that's probably wrong. it's a thursday to a wednesday but on it starts on the 13th it's a six-day cruise yeah you can't afford to have a week off of work so i'm just gonna be working try to work as much as i can get back on i signed up for uber eats so i'm gonna try to work on driving for that because doordash wasn't making any money money owed to a friend yes for what two hundred dollars so she decided to kind of pet portraits on the side and so she had yes okay but that hasn't been making any money because people weren't i mean i also i'm terrible at marketing myself so i have someone else marketing for me and that hasn't gone well um so she had placed an order and then she's like well actually i don't have the animal anymore for her situation so she's like how do you owe two hundred dollars to a friend she paid in advance even though I did not want to accept it.
52:09She was like, no, I just want to pay it so I can get out of the way. So she sent me the money. Oh, so it's like a refund? Yes. Good f***. Yeah. Is that it? That should be the it of the credit card debt. Yes. Of all debt? Of all debt? I did get in the mail debt for the doctors. Oh, your doctor? Yes. Originally, even after they said they were going to charge it as a physical. so the bank the insurance yes and they still charge me do you have insurance i do they didn't do the blood charge for the lab 69 and then i had to go back to the labs because oh what's what's total please right now it's like 99 when'd you get that in the mail i got that a couple days ago also with this lighting and whatever we do on it which we think is we're just experimenting is it like more interesting is it more dramatic let us know what you think in the comments below or scary or anything okay when'd you get that in the mail i got it a couple days ago so like today's wednesday that's fine that you haven't paid that yet yeah yeah i just got it and i did pay the last copay so noah loves the new lighting he just told me but we know comment sections love changes oh negative 27 47 cents in the checking account somehow it continues to get to worse yeah so for that account i put a part of my paycheck too because why what the why do you have so many different accounts by the way and why are we going we're paying to park there we're getting racing canes there we're selling out 200 we're uh getting going in and getting some bulls**t gas station, Chipley Donuts, an Apple bill of$7.56 in-app purchase probably, Golden Chick, another in-app purchase,$6.48, Zell on out$77, Zell on out$12, PayPal on out $13, an Apple bill $6.48, more Patreon, more Patreon,$21.65.
54:16So that's the one that I would have been on there, but I paid through PayPal. Did I think you subscribed twice? I'm going to have to check on that, because that's... And then a monthly service of$12, and you're negative. So we're going out to eat. We're Patreon doing. And we're doing all this stuff. But we're negative. Yeah. We're negative. Does it make. Do we go to Golden Chick when we don't have money? No. No. No. No. Do we go to Golden Chick when we don't have money? Not if there's no money. No. But then if it's like I'm hungry and. Shut the fuck up. They have good prices. Good prices. You know what has good fucking prices?
54:49You know what has good fucking prices? A loaf of bread has good prices. A loaf of bread has good prices. little pickets and meat have good prices little pickets and cheese have good prices mayonnaise has good prices combine them together call it a sandwich invent that it's brand new it's really cool those have low prices that will forever piss me off i'm sorry it's not a it's just it's not good oh oh oh we only have five thousand checking account guys so what should we do what what should we do what should we do with five dollars what should we do what should we do Not spend it. Oh no I think we should go to Uber Eats.
55:29Oh I think we should also go to Uber Eats. And then we're gonna get Uber Eats again. Yeah. Oh that's interesting. Oh we may as well go to Uber Eats again and then go to Uber Eats and then get Uber Eats. Huh that's that's curious. We're gonna go somewhere and we're gonna pay for parking. Then we're gonna get Raising Kings. Then we're gonna go to House of Kepeli. Go into a gas station. Go into a gas station. Get some bullsh**. PayPal out of 50 bucks. Get in some Uber Eats. Get in some Uber Eats. paypal it out 30 dollars water burger gas chick-fil-a yes no there was something like four dollar purchase are you getting four dollars of gas okay that was the one time where i had a water i don't know when you go to bucky's and you spend 12 what's that that was food and interesting yeah don't bullshit me water burger chick-fil-a jewelry why that uber eats and then tolls.
56:25I know you don't I know what part of town you live in you do not need to take tolls to live. Take the slower highway. It's okay. Why do we have so many different checking accounts? Just have one checking account so you can at least manage it. When you go through our budgeting program I'm excited for you to learn things. That one I'm probably going to close because originally I opened up because they had a good savings that accrued yearly but I haven't Yeah, it just I wasn't managing it so Oh, no, no, no. I did say the$400 $495 house of Kiphead. Yeah. Why is that so much money? So that was definitely a splurge.
57:02Negative money, but we went and spent$500 on what? That was a splurge, so it's a salon. So that's kind of why I have the bleach in my hair. My hair is bleached. So it has like... That's worth negative money? That's worth missed payments on debts? I was putting money aside to help pay for it and then because it was something that i wanted to do and i've been wanting to do for a while and it's a one-time thing so i'm not going to spend that money uh you're right for a while it was one time and you are negative and missing payments would you do it again today if you did not do it already no why do you say that because i'm like i really need money but so I had set the money aside and I was saving it aside so then I could use it for something for myself and that was what I put that money on and I was like yeah I should be fine as long as I pay the minimums and stuff but eventually I was going to do it I just decided to do it sooner while I can we call your parents in the post show you can we'll call your parents in the post show I'm sure they're loving this for sure i was like i'm gonna be on the show and they're like okay you sure and i'm like yeah but i don't think they know it's as bad at the beginning yeah you're blaming this all on your parents but the spending categories again minimum about the minimum 35 percent was probably closer to 45 percent and then we have one two three four five six seven eight nine ten 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 individual debts and that was your parents fault they didn't help like no why why why why why should they you're an adult why should they is it their fault or is it your fault regardless of help whose fault is it i didn't learn anything uh of like how to manage my finances okay that's gonna piss me off i don't even want to make a budget with that if you're just gonna deflect and you're not gonna take any responsibility then what are you even gonna do what are you even gonna do going forward what are you gonna do well right if you can't even take responsibility if i make a budget if we put you through the budgeting class what are you even gonna do you can't take responsibility you blame everything on everyone else so how the are you gonna manage it in the future how are you how are you gonna do what's necessary if you can't take responsibility for the past because i don't i don't want to end up like them so right now also you said they've given you money in the past you said that earlier so they have helped so what are you talking about they haven't sorry continue no it's fine um so now they're in a really bad position and i think they're so they don't have retirement anymore um how much do you have in retirement i don't have anything you don't have a single cent but if we can like find an objective for you to hit like maybe i'll maybe i can maybe i'll fund like your first muumuu account or something it's a good investing platform that i use we need to figure out like a goal for you to hit but again like your parents retirement your parents financial situation i don't get why that means you are in what was it 15 individual debts that is not correlating.
1:00:41Unless all that money was taken out to support them, which it wasn't. We've been through what it was. So why the f*** are you deflecting and talking about that? So right now is kind of where... I'm trying to figure out what to do at this point. First step, take responsibility. You know, back like in my early years, I was just a young piece of s*** doing dumb s***. first thing i had to do to turn my life around was take responsibility admit what i've done was wrong and work to improve my life and not make the same mistakes again you can't take responsibility the future is not there yeah i'm you know i i keep thinking about the worst case scenario what bankruptcy yeah that'd be really tough to go through at 25 but especially with my car too i think that's what's kind of stopping me from going that route because you have 152 ,027 ,000 Oh,$152 ,000.
1:01:52$152 ,027 in bad debt. That is a number that just shouldn't even be considered as a number for someone in your age. That's like you having a mortgage or something. Y 'all gotta use my favorite high yield savings account where you can get up to 4.6 % on your money plus FDIC insurance up to$2 million. You can also get up to$300 for signing up today. It's the personal high yield savings account that I use for my money, so don't let your money be losing money while it's just sitting there. Click in the link in the description below and get those bonuses. Alright, let me figure out your minimum monthly payments.
1:02:37then we'll start with the budget part but let's see how much you have to pay towards the debt on a minimum monthly basis yeah and after this i'll probably just go ahead and call help and just be like cancel yes yes it's not even an option your minimum monthly debt payments
1:03:021 ,373 dollars 38 cents that's that's it's almost one of your paychecks yeah what's your rent again it is 890 and then i pay 70 for utilities all utilities including internet yes 70 well because it's split between me and my roommate okay 70 is your half yes 890 is your have yes okay 129 for car insurance yes and i am doing a thing to like reduce it one of those like mild tracker things sure gas gas it's 30 for a full tank and how many times i normally only fill it up like once every two weeks but lately it's because i've been going to houston and so it's like that's like are you going to continue to i told them i wasn't going to come to houston for a wall okay um so 60 bucks a month yeah let's say six bucks phone phone my parents have it on a family plan so it's 35 you give it to them yes man even if you were on helium one of our supporters who we also support it's 20 bucks a month it would save you money being on your own with helium that's kind of wild unless you owe money on the phone i wouldn't be so my phone was stolen a couple years ago and that's why i have the phone i have now 300 for groceries use the meal plan we give you in the budgeting program 100 for your tp fund it's anything you need to survive anything else anything else medical is there anything ongoing um agree to my bills medical bills um i'm when i went to the labs a second time so it might be the same so it might be another hundred but how often is this is there something with the budget for on a monthly basis where occur no not regularly no okay subscriptions do you still have a pet i have a cat now okay how much on a monthly basis to budget for so my pet insurance so my roommate gets the kitty litter and the food and he's kind of like i'll take care of that you do nothing else no okay 30 bucks for pet insurance okay that should be it anything else in your life jim um no anything else
1:05:10$2 ,987.38 is the minimum you need to survive so I mean yeah again it's kind of what I expected based on your spending you have an extra$800 a month normally you just blow it all which it aligned with your spending your bullsh** spending so this actually makes completely sense okay but you only have it for one more month We know this is to be your budget What we don't know is what your income will be But what would I do You might have to be working a couple part time jobs For a while But I need you to minimum continue to bring in this much money So with that extra 800 bucks a month what would I do Because I'm like I don't know Pay the back lease off immediately And then pay off The dentist And pay pal the next month We'll throw in the rest towards the care credit then month number three you'll finish care credit and put a bit towards you're also going to take care of the doctor so let's call that end of month three month number four where are we and I did want to start doing therapy but since yeah budget that in honestly just so you can see the rewards I'm just going yeah I'm just going smallest to largest and honestly your federal student loans that might just minimum monthly payment until they're paid off so you can start catching up on an emergency fund.
1:06:37Yeah. And investing, the fact that you have$0 invested at 25 is scary because this is the best decade of your life for compound growth in the market. Yeah, and by the time I'm 30, I really want to be in a lot better spot. It's going to take a lot of work, but I think you can do it. Let's just do some basic math again. Yeah. You'll use the debt payoff calculator in our class. 32 190 okay so 119 838 dollars of bad debt minus that by actually 900 hours you should be able to throw to it on a monthly basis 133 months or 11 years okay but yeah 11 years sounds like a long time and it's because it is potential things we can do yes one i don't want you to do there's consolidation stuff i don't really want you to do that because i think you'll deny me for that oh there's also that can you point the mic towards your face no just point it like this wait it okay yeah okay it's okay but in the 11 years yes at some point and i'm gonna be guessing within the next two years you're gonna be in a job position that you actually want to be in you're gonna have more than 900 to throw with this my best guess is with an actual career that you want to go down which must take a while to find an actual job and might take even longer to get the good paying job that you expect from that position because you might have to accept a lower uh salary position you might have to do some gig work and stuff like that um but i think in the next two years you could at least land something uh decent and i think realistically all this debt could be gone in five years okay if i like really cram at it you're gonna cram at it this is this is this is okay yes i to be very clear and this part sucks because i know what it's like to be on the position on your side actually my debt was not as bad as this so i technically i don't know but um i know what it looks like to have to work something for years and sacrifice this is overwhelming right now but if you land that better job you have the opportunity to by the time you're 30 have a completely independent amazing life get a fully funded emergency fund start investing you're going to throw 20 to 25 towards investing on a monthly basis and in that higher salary field that you'll be in you're going to retire very comfortably i'd also sell as much stuff as you can that you don't need including that paypal thing for the camera you don't need it anymore sell the ipad pay that off whatever you can sell that you strictly do not need to survive yeah do that the car situation that's going to be hard to finesse at this point i think you're gonna have to pay that off yeah but sell as much as you can work as many hours as you can once you get your full-time job work is working other job which is so much easier said than done so much easier said than done cutting everything back to zero as well but i promise you if you do and you work to get a job any job after this and then work to get your career position in five years your life will be so insanely different it will have been worth every moment and i'm almost turning 30 trust me dude i moved here when i was like 24 these next few years are just gonna fly by like it's good it's not it basically won't even exist it's very depressing um but it is so worth it and you do have a really bright future in front of you you just gotta grind now reality situation is bring it back and i'm gonna give you some tough love you got yourself into this debt it's your responsibility to take care of it now and the student loans are the biggest part of it and even if you went through bankruptcy you're not getting rid of that so take care of this now i don't want your credit to be for 10 years anyway because if you take care of this in five years you might start saving up for a down payment for a home at that point that's my ultimate goal which is really cool so if you're going through bankruptcy you're gonna fuck yourself with that so that's where i'm at today um and on another bright side my credit score has improved by like almost 200 points to to 594 from like 400 it was last year so i kind of hopefully that don't take advantage of the I'm just hoping it helps with my refinancing if I can.
1:11:05What makes me a little nervous of that is any kind of consolidation. Anything that opens up more debt by anything at all, I think you're just going to build it up unless you change your overall behaviors. Spending your budget was absolutely ridiculous. You're missing payments, so it's going to be a zero. Your debt, I mean, this is some of the worst debt I've ever seen for someone at 25. Technically, there's no collections or IRS debt, so one. Okay. Emergency fund. There's a dollar in savings. Zero. Retirement, there's nothing zero. Real estate, nothing zero. That one's not really going to pull much weight.
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