Failed E-Girl Blames Men For Losing $250,000 | Financial Audit

13 Dec 2024 · 1 h 27 min

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Podcast Summary: Financial Audit - Failed E-Girl Blames Men For Losing $250,000

Episode Overview In this episode, titled "Failed E-Girl Blames Men For Losing $250,000," host Caleb Hammer engages with a guest, Olivia, who shares her tumultuous financial journey and various life experiences. Their conversation tackles her struggle with debt, inadequate money management, and the psychological factors at play in her spending habits. Throughout the episode, Caleb critiques Olivia's financial decisions, urging her to take responsibility and make significant changes in her approach to personal finance.

Key Themes

Financial Background

  • Income Sources: Olivia has multiple streams of income, including her job as a paralegal earning $50,000 annually, along with additional income from content creation on platforms like Twitch and OnlyFans.
  • Past Earnings: Olivia revealed that she made close to $200,000 during her peak in content creation but lost most of it due to poor financial advice and mismanagement.

Spending and Debt

  • Debt Levels: Olivia has faced significant debt challenges, including $25,000 in credit card debt in the past and ongoing issues with her credit cards.
  • Current Financial Situation: Despite making decent money, Olivia struggles with spending more than she earns, resulting in late fees and accruing interest on her credit cards.

Psychological Factors

  • Coping Mechanisms: Olivia discusses how her past experiences with homelessness and tumultuous relationships have influenced her spending habits and financial decisions.
  • Awareness vs. Action: While Olivia acknowledges her bad decisions and expresses a desire to improve, Caleb highlights her tendency to make excuses rather than take actionable steps towards financial stability.

Key Discussions

Financial Management

  • Budgeting: The importance of creating and sticking to a budget is emphasized, with Caleb critiquing Olivia's lack of budgeting skills. Olivia admits she does not actively monitor her spending or account balances.
  • Debt Management Tools: Caleb suggests utilizing tools like a budgeting app, debt consolidation methods, and working with financial advisors, which Olivia has been hesitant to fully embrace.

Behavioral Patterns

  • Excuses for Poor Choices: Throughout the episode, Olivia frequently downplays her financial situation, attributing her difficulties to external circumstances, which frustrates Caleb. He urges her to take full accountability for her choices.
  • Impact of Relationships: Discussions of Olivia's past relationships reveal a pattern of financial abuse and poor decision-making, which Caleb encourages her to recognize and learn from.

Future Steps

  • Short-term Goals: Caleb suggests that Olivia can significantly improve her financial situation within a year if she focuses on paying off debt and building an emergency fund.
  • Long-term Planning: He emphasizes the importance of retirement savings and establishing a robust financial plan.

Key Takeaways

  • Awareness is Key: Understanding her financial situation is crucial, but Olivia must transform that awareness into concrete actions.
  • Stop the Cycle: Caleb stresses the need to stop making excuses and start making changes to prevent falling back into old habits.
  • Resource Utilization: Olivia has access to financial education resources, and Caleb encourages her to take advantage of these tools to improve her financial literacy and management.

Conclusion The episode serves as a stark reminder of the consequences of poor financial management and the psychological barriers that can hinder progress. Caleb's tough-love approach aims to push Olivia towards making better decisions and taking control of her financial future. As the discussion transitions to more personal topics about Olivia's content creation and relationships, it sets the stage for further insights in the post-show.

For more insights, listeners are encouraged to check out the post-show where Olivia discusses her experiences in content creation in more detail.

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0:44You're going to be homeless again because if you f*** this up, you have no fallback if you do lose your housing. Don't hurt yourself. Why are you being a d***o on this side? Cyber Monday sale ends today. 20 to 30 % off all of our educational products. Go to calebhammer.com before the day ends. Hi, my name is Olivia. I'm 31 years old. I live in New Orleans, Louisiana, and this is Financial Audit. She zoomed through that intro, just like she zoomed on over to Austin. Thanks for being here. What do you do for living over there in New Orleans? I'm a paralegal. Paralegal? Mm-hmm. Hmm. Could be a lot of time, not a lot of money, depending.

1:20Okay, what are you making? $50 ,000 a year. Okay, decent. New Orleans, I don't know the cost of living in New Orleans. I do know it's a declining city population-wise. So that usually means it stretches a little further. How do you feel living in New Orleans on$50 ,000 a year? Comfortable. Definitely. I can pay for all of the things that I need to pay for. I just. I can pay for the things I need to pay for and some of the things I want to pay for and a lot of the things I shouldn't be buying. So comfortable is they can pay advances. Yeah. Wait, wait. Pay advances. She doesn't even know. Wonderful.

1:56What do you mean pay advances? We'll get into that. Good. I was curious. That's why I wanted to kind of wanted to hit that out of the gate because I was like wondering, does she even know? Because that just sets a good precedent for how the conversation is going to go and where your knowledge of your own financial situation is. Oh, what do you mean pay advances? We'll get there. Oh, OK. What? I'm scared of it now. What? You're actually like that? That just felt really weird. What do you mean? Like, I mean, weird. Yeah. Is this how you present yourself? Yeah. We don't really know each other, so I just want to.

2:29I am a very strange human. Yeah. That's okay. Totally good. Yeah. I just want to make sure you're not coming on here and going. No, no, no. I'm just a strange human. Okay. Don't face it. I mean, that look of tone. I know who I am. What? Uh-huh. And so, okay. $50 ,000 in New Orleans. I, you know, you're, we chit-chat a little bit before this. of your living situation isn't bad in terms of your monthly expense for the 50 ,000 what hits your account on a monthly basis um between four and a half and six thousand a month okay then you should be doing fine unless there's something crazy that I don't know four and a half wait how does it how does it vary by a thousand five hundred uh paralegal is not my only stream of income oh what else okay well we bleeped the word because it leads to demontation but essentially it's the things that are under the bras get displayed into the internet eyes for money okay you actually do that and that comes in and if we talk more about that unfortunately it has to be in the post show or else we're demonetized in our YouTube membership that's what we learned and that's what our people over there have told us to do so maybe we can talk about that more on the post show but let's get the income part of it I'd say content creation because I do also Twitch stream sometimes YouTube okay I was a full-time content creator through COVID and then I dropped off.

3:59A lot of people had the COVID boom in content creation. A lot of people were at home. A lot of people had eyes on screens. Yep. Did you lose it or did you leave it? I left. Why? Because I didn't like it. Oh. I didn't like it. Why are you doing the ooh and the, I don't know. This is Twitch. Oh. Playing video games. Why are you doing both if you didn't like it? um I didn't like it when I had to do it full time but when it was more of a hobby it it's still entertaining it still provides income and it's low effort the same with the tatis yeah okay I post like once a month and I still rake in pretty good money so now this is what I always want to ask do you enjoy doing that do you like doing that or is it something you feel you have to do because whether or not I support it is dependent on that answer um I would say 78 percent of the time I enjoy it okay well if you enjoy a job even like a great job you don't enjoy it 100 percent of the time so I will accept that as a I do it because I like it fair so the 1 ,500 hours a month ebbs and flows because of those positions okay okay in this last month I mean what do you think came in total?

5:12Of course everything. We have some deposits. We got some payroll. We got spicy money and Zelle and cash app. Yes. So the Zelle is that alternative income. More? No, that is just the alternative income. I had spicy as$830 and then more Zelles of an extra$500. Why would you get Zelle through that? Unless there was their extra off-site spices? No, so I have a business checking account and I sell it to my personal account. Okay, so we can just end that then. Yeah, so it might be a little duplicative. Okay, yep, so how much do you think came in? Total across everything. Last month, I would say probably$5 ,000.

5:53$4 ,000, so what is wrong here? Because even with all these incomes added up, we made it to$4 ,097.60, which is on the low end of your estimate of$4 ,000 to$5 ,500. So how are we at the bottom end of the barrel with all these different income streams, which are not insignificant. The spicy was$838. That's not bad. Don't see anything for Twitch. No, I didn't. So this is the bottom of the month. Are you sure this is the bottom, bottom, bottom? Or do you make lower than that sometimes? No, that's the bottom. Okay. So I'm going to then trust you and say$4 ,750 a month on average. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair.

6:37Okay. So in general, what do you think you spent? Probably a little bit more than I bring in. So probably around five. Oddly enough, no. You actually spent a little less. Oh. Which is weird because I don't know why the money maneuvers that you were making in terms of debt going up in terms of really dumb stuff were the case. It's extra dumb. When people don't have money and there's no money going in and there's no money left to go out, they take these alternative paths through growing debt or having something bounce or anything like that you didn't have that though i didn't have the insignificant money but you still had the absolute stupidity in the finances yes why do you think that would be the case self-assessed money makes me really anxious because then why are you doing it incorrectly though because when I'm anxious about something, I construct ways in life to avoid the anxiety in certain ways.

7:34And your avoidance of money inside you would be having a fully funded emergency fund, being on track for retirement, making sure you can never be financially. But instead, you are doing the and have no preparation whatsoever to avoid being, which means if you get into a bad financial situation again like that or manipulative or whatever it might be, you have no escape route. You have no ability to fend for yourself. Oh, you don't even know the half of it. What? That's not funny to me. What? So back when I first got into content creation in the first year and a half, I made almost$200 ,000. Oh, for f***s sake.

8:12When was this? That's insane. That's so much money. That was the end of 2020. Yeah. Oh, that's right. COVID content. Okay. And it's all gone. Oh. Yeah. I had a financial advisor at the time, but he wasn't really participating. You mean he wasn't participating? So before I had gotten him on my team, so to speak, I was putting aside 30 % every time I got a check-in for my taxes and everything. And I had it all just sitting and ready to go. You've built good bones, okay. Not reflected in here. Yeah. and he told me that it would be better to use that money to pay off my credit cards because the penalties I would have gotten from my taxes were less than the interest I was making.

8:59I can see his mathematical reasoning on certain things, sure. Right. But IRS is the people we don't f*** with typically in my book, but go on. Well, and then the CPA that he hooked me up with filed my 2021 taxes and then kind of stopped responding to my messages. so I haven't filed since. How is this happening so much on this show? How are there so many people out there not filing taxes? So 22, 23, and soon to be 24, you have not filed. Not that you would have for 24 yet, but it's about to be. Really? So two years before you haven't filed. How much money have you brought in? How much money did you bring in in 2023?

9:44I think$75 ,000. Oh, good. How much for 2022? 100. Oh, good. You're going to owe. So much. So much. Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, what? 20 to 50, maybe total. 20 to 50, depending. Yes. And then they will add fees. Will they add interest on top of that? What is it? What are they calculating? Have you heard from anyone? Is anyone at the IRS like, oh, hello? No. and in my defense i have been trying to get them filed no no i have contacted three cpas and they keep stop responding to my messages you're gonna sit down with the same financial advisors i use it don't mean money we'll pay for it you're good everyone out there in the audience gets a free session but we'll pay for your whole thing either way so oh yeah that was the other thing is the first CPA I was working with wanted to charge me$1 ,200 to file 2022.

10:38I mean, that could make sense. I paid my CPA a lot too. When the more complicated your money gets and the more they can save you, of course, the more they'll charge. Oh, absolutely. And I was, I don't know if that's incorrect or bad. You just try to say that like it was immediately a horrible thing. No, no, no, no, because I was like, okay, I can pay this. Just send me the engagement letter. Just, I'm ready to do this. This was halfway through 2023. And I would be like, Hey, where is it? And then a Month later, hey, where is it? Month later, hey, where is it? And he would just. That's when one month later I go get another CPA, by the way.

11:09Yeah. Yeah. I was going through a lot at the time. So. Is there ever a period? No offense. And again, life is life is life is life. I'm not like trying to diminish it. Is there ever a period in your life so far where you're not going through something? Because it sounds like every single year is something else. but but at the same time the more and more we go through life always and i've had so many people on the show that have done what you're doing and then do what you're going to continue to do if you go on this path this was bad this was bad this was bad so much was going on so much was going on so much was going on so much was going on so much was going on if you always use that never get ahead never try to be actionable in your way of trying to actually move beyond the life is against me at all times.

11:55Oh, no. Then you're going to end up in the path where you have yourself and you're going to just make it worse because you're never going to recover it. And the excuse will always be something's going on. No, I definitely am not in the boat of, oh, my God, my life is so hard. Poor me. It's definitely I've made bad decisions. I've put bad people into my life and let them stay there for way too long. You haven't paid your taxes in three years. There's a lot of time there to make a move. Yes. And again, this is now on my third CPA who I've been waiting. I would have mass emailed a bajillion CPAs.

12:26You try three in three years. That's one you try to contact a year. Come on. I can't give you praise for that. I know. I'm sorry. You tried to use that as a good thing, but it can't. There's 12 months. 12 months. You did one out of every 12 months. We can't be like thrilled at ourself for that. No pats on the back there. That's fair. No, no, that's fair. Gotta take care of your shit. I know. They'll come and garnish you. Well, and I, I, the one really good thing I did is cause I, when I got divorced, I. Divorced? It's like, when were you married? When I was 20. That's, well, I don't know. I've lived a lot of life.

13:06Exactly. Well, that's what I was saying. I've been divorced and then engaged twice after that. Oh, good. What? What? Simps? um so the first engagement was to a now rather large tiktok creator who was wildly active uh mostly financially that was when i got into content creation he's a big twitch creator right now okay i'll ask off camera you want me to say it like now oh or just like wait for the post i don't care talking about it that was half of my content for a year who daddy ditto You know him, Jake? He does a lot of like, oh my God, women are bippity boppity, women are property, and I'm so funny, but ooh, ooh, I'm like a little beta boy and tell me I'm a good boy.

13:56He's gross. I don't know him. I digress. What's his name? Slash bippity boppity? No, Daddy Ditto is what he streams under. um but no so he was wildly financially abusive and okay that's where a lot of you got engaged two more times no that was the that was the first engagement then you got engaged again yes to be fair i didn't know about his crap until i caught him falling to other people so so it's a cheating thing yeah yeah this is the final chance at the end of tonight our black friday cyber monday sale ends. Right now, it's the best price ever on our entire class educational bundle. It is 33 % off.

14:39You can also get 20 % off everything else, including merchandise. And reminder, we've added four brand new sections to our master your money budgeting program. This is literally the best price you'll ever get. Make sure you check it out now. Link in the description below or go to calebhammer.com you're not engaged currently are you no okay okay but anyway after I got divorced I had to move back from Italy I was overseas he was he was military and so I was living in no no no no this is my the this is met so daddy did I was the ex-fiance um my ex-husband and I are actually still pretty tight he's sweetest guy on the planet just didn't work out um but when I moved out of Italy.

15:26The cheater. No. That was another ex-fiance. I'm so lost. I'm so sorry, guys. No, it's okay. It doesn't matter. Ex-husband military. Sure. Ex-fiance one Daddy Ditto streamer. Oh, gotcha. Ex-fiance two cheater. Now single. Now avoiding at all costs because apparently I make bad decisions. I searched Daddy Ditto and I see nothing on Google. Really? Are you saying like D-I-T-T-O? Like Ditto like the Pokemon. all one word that's a lot of followers on instagram yeah i wonder where those came from what you're saying he pays for them no no uh when when he and i started dating he was i've seen clips yeah when he and i started dating he was at 30k on tiktok and when we broke up he was at 250 he looks gross i hate well i hate to say well i was gonna say we look a little similar his Beards is a bit more scrappy, and I think he has a few more pounds, but I don't know.

16:27Completely different. I don't know. I mean, I honestly can't judge that very well. Okay. Does not take care of himself. Doesn't let other people take care of him either. Anyway, I digress.

16:42Self-assess. Where do you think your finances are today? Zero to ten. Zero being the absolute worst, ten being the absolute best. One. Okay. Okay. If you want your Hammer Financial Score, it's free. See where you are. Check it out. Link in the description below. And if you want to come here to Austin, Texas, come on over and talk about your exes with me. I mean, I like a good little glass of tea here and there, a little sip, sip, sip. Come on. CalebHammer.com slash apply. We'd be happy to have you. All right. No, but the good thing. Oh, okay. So when I got divorced. Oh, we're back to it. No, no, no.

17:16I didn't finish the story. I got divorced, moved back from Italy, was living off my credit cards, and was at$25 ,000 in credit card debt. When was this? 2019. Okay. And I paid it all off. Yeah. It was at zero. It was completely gone. I heard that. And then I kept moving. Moving? Why are you moving always? You can stream online. I have, on average, moved once a year every year since I was, like, 11. Honestly, I've pretty much done that since I was 18, but I don't f*** my finances with it. What do you mean? What are you doing? Where are you in New Orleans? Where are you going to be in like a month?

17:53I would really actually like to stay in New Orleans. I'm in a really good situation. I'm a lot more stable. I have a job I really like, and it's all good things. So I'm hoping to stay in New Orleans for the foreseeable future. How did you pay off all that debt? um i originally got i had one of my credit cards had an offer for a balance transfer zero percent interest for 12 months zero fee so i did um a few thousand on that and then i did a debt consolidation loan that i paid off um because i paid both of them off within the like allotted time frame probably didn't change the behavior that got you in there in the first place because usually when people utilize those tools, they didn't change the behavior.

18:37And then guess what? Your debt went back up. Who would have thought, right? I changed some of it, but not all of it. How many consolidations have you done over the time? One. I'm being told two. One instance, it may have been two loans. I don't remember. But I know it was at one. I did all of it at the same time. All right. I want to get into this card. And these cards have little interesting little niblets throughout. Let me tell you. Okay. Amex every day. We're sitting at$1 ,305. Again, I mean, your entire rent and utilities are$600, right? Isn't that what you said? $800. $800. This is what you told me right before.

19:15Okay, cool. Awesome. With the money left over, obviously we need to set some aside for taxes because not all of it is. Well, is the paralegal contracting or are you doing that as a W-2? Salary. I'm W-2 salary. Barely any money setting aside for taxes for that other kind of income, but. That was, I was going to say, that's why, that's probably why I overestimated the income is I have them withholding a lot extra for my taxes. But do you? Yes. Why overestimated your income? I'm asking how much hits your account on a monthly basis. Right. So I did the math based off of like, like my, my annual salary divided by 12.

19:52You don't know what hits your account on a monthly basis. Cause that's all I was asking. No. What do you mean? Do you not look at your fucking like checking? do you not look at anything that's happening in your accounts so i i make sure that i have the money for a purchase before i make a purchase but other than that i try do you look at your accounts other than just just literally looking at the number if it's there to make a purchase and i don't think you do that again because i have things in here yeah you'll see this is this is suggesting me that you are not informed of your finances anyway obviously you don't make a budget Do you not make a budget?

20:28You've never made a budget. Are you a budget? There's no budget. Is there a spreadsheet? I don't think there is. I have rocket money on my phone. Great. It's on the phone. But I don't look at it. You are absolutely right. I don't. I have. Okay. Do you play video games? Yes. You know, like when you start the skill tree and it's like real small and you like have a couple of little outshoots as you start to level up. Okay. I haven't leveled up any of my financial skills. I just got like a couple of good ideas and I started with that and I was like, this is fine. But obviously not. So why the f*** would you continue down that road?

21:02When it's not working, you readjust. That's not an answer. I made it this far and I didn't expect to. What do you mean? Oh, come on. That's a horrible mindset. What do you mean? I really didn't. You did not literally think you'd be dead by now. Really? So you just didn't care? I was hopeless for most of my teenage years. Hopeless, but did you think you'd be dead? Oh, statistically. What? No, statistically, you'd be alive. What do you mean? No, like, so, okay. Have you ever heard of the ACEs scores? It's the adverse childhood experience score. I was a psychology major for a minute. But no, so statistically, like, teenage women who grow up homeless and have, like, a certain.

21:50You were homeless, too? Yeah, for, like, while I was in high school. Okay. Yeah, you went through a lot. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I want to focus on your finances today. I'm still here. So, well, and that's part of why, like, when I paid off the debt after I was divorced, I, like, really gave myself a pat on the back. And I was like, oh, good. I did it. I don't have to ever look at it ever again. And then I made all of this money doing content creation. And I thought I would be fine forever. And I just was kind of, you know, oh, my God, I'm just a girl on my way through life.

22:22And yeah, no, for the last especially six months, I've been really being like, oh, I need to stop my life away. So, ta-da, Jesse. $44 in one statement. $31 of interest. Like this time and time and time again, I do not know how we were here. Again, you have, you're not unreasonable. You have self-assessed so many different things. You kind of understand relatively where you are in terms of finances. You gave yourself a normal score that actually makes sense for you. Even though you don't look at your accounts. Why the f*** on a card that you could not pay off that you want to pay off that you make more money than you spend?

23:04The face you made was funny. Why are you spending$303 on it? Why the possible f***? Especially when$31.43 of interest is accruing. What are you doing? So the plan I had for the credit cards was that when I got them all paid off, each one would have a very specific use to maximize the benefits. You paid them off years ago. Yes. And my plan was that net. I don't give a fuck about that two years ago. I know. Why are you doing this now? Because I know that I make enough money that I should not be in debt, which is why I started. But it's not working. So why would you continue it? That's what's so confusing.

23:45Why would I continue something that's not working? Because I've been paying it down. No, it went up. Six months ago. I don't give a fuck about six months ago. The balance went up now. Yes. So the reason I'm still using them is because, again, I have a plan for how I want to maximize the usability of it, and I need to pay them off. You are absolutely right. I have a spreadsheet that shows me. They paid them off. I'm working on this. No, you're not. It went up. I'm making much more than the minimum payment. You're trying to sound good, but you are not. You're right. You paid more than minimum, but it didn't matter because you still spent more than you paid off.

24:19Yes. Yes. You're trying to make it sound better than it actually is, and I'm not going to let you get away with that. I'm using the tools I have poorly. You're using Cope to try to make it through this conversation. It's all f***ing DoorDash. Great. Yeah, let's let that keep us in debt. DoorDash, DoorDash, DoorDash, DoorDash. Touch tunes. What even is that? And then touch tunes. Then Netflix, what the f*** is a touch tune? You got two$25 charges on there. $25? Help shift? Oh, I know what TouchTunes is. What? What? What is it? Oh, it's a jukebox app that you can play music when you're at bars. It costs$25?

25:02No, so you like refill it and it gives you credits. How often are you there? $50 in jukeboxing? That's the dumbest thing I've heard. One night I was trolling a bar. It was entertainment. It went in my entertainment. Dude, you're trolling your finances. You're trolling your life. You're trolling your retirement. You're trolling an emergency fund. You're trolling you're going to be homeless again because if you f*** this up, you have no fallback if you do lose your housing. Yeah. And it's not cute. It's not a little joke. No, it's not. This is a cope laugh. Absolutely a cope laugh. This is I am uncomfortable and angry at myself and very disappointed.

25:38I'm disappointed in something I'm doing. I fix it again. You know. Well, some of us have better coping skills, okay? I'm doing the best I can with what I have to work with. That's not funny. Again, my thing. What? Why are you facing at me in that look of tone? Because, I don't know, you're a bit odd and. Did I not start with that? I'm a weird person. And I'm trying to just f***ing comprehend it, okay? Good luck. When I'm looking at you, I'm just trying to think. So calm down. No. I'm just trying to understand, like, what I'm dealing with. Like, what kind of creature is in front of me? creature of the internet no i'm literally here to talk about the finances why would i shut up because it was a moment of silence we're allowed to have them it's okay i was thinking you'll make it through it don't hurt yourself why are you being a all of a sudden there's a difference between being a and making snappy jokes you're making jokes yes because this is a joke right your entire financial future is haha

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27:57You don't know how to manage them. Close them. This is not a tool. You don't know what you're doing. It was for six months. But it's not. Six months is nothing. No, I know. And it's one of those things where it's hard to break a habit, especially when things are moving. Close them and you won't have to break it. It'll be taken out of your hands. Close them. Would it not be better to use the tools the way that they're... You don't know how to. Yes, but that is a skill I can learn. And if we learn them by proving it within debit accounts for a while, I will allow you to open a small limit credit card again why would i give you access to a nuclear bomb when you can't even handle firing a pistol right now i hardly think that credit card is you're in a situation where money is being pulled from a credit card in a cash advance way that you don't even know about because you don't have enough money in certain accounts to pay for a bill so yes you are yourself you have no retirement if you get evicted for whatever reason you lose that roommate situation you're yes this is a nuclear bomb for your life, whether or not you realize it.

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28:59You're literally having late fees and hundreds of dollars in interest accruing on a credit card that you are not paying off and only allowing the balance to go up. So I don't want to hear it. Don't try to diminish how bad your situation is or you'll never get out of it because you don't care. No, I do care. Not with that kind of language and attitude. I care just because I'm making bad decisions doesn't mean I don't care. It wasn't just about making bad decisions. You were trying to defend. you're trying to make it seem like it's not as bad it is and if you don't realize how bad it is then what the f*** are we doing Amazon Chase card yes $2 ,413.61 $79 a minute with the payment you could use a card many in our audience use like the Fizz card it's a debit card so you can only spend what's in your account but it still builds your credit you can do that That's a way to do it.

29:55If you want to prove you're a credit card person, that's a good place to start. Because obviously we're not with this kind of balance. And we're still purchasing on it. Was it less than your payment towards it? Sure. But you're still purchasing on it. So we're not making as much progress as possible because guess what? It still takes 11 years to pay off, but you're trying to diminish that with the money you spend on it. And then$54.95 of interest. And also, you started above the credit limit, so. Oh, yeah. Oh, you betcha. How far? Just about, if I'm not mistaken here, it's a bit more on my end.

30:28It looks about$60. Above the credit limit. That's good to know. Oops. See? No, you're right. I don't look at it, and I need to. Do not try to defend this, then. You were just, again, trying to defend your situation, making it sound like it's not as bad as it really is. You didn't even know you were above the credit limit, okay? And that's why you're not spending more money on this, because guess what? even with all that you're only$75 under the credit limit even though even though compared to what you spent on it you paid off$225 more than you spent on it but you're only$75 under the limit well done.

31:04That one I apparently need to look at you need to look at all of them this is not a. That's fair that is very fair. Go please please for f*** sake you get them for free I need you as a guest starting tonight when you get home or tomorrow or whatever it is, go through the debt class so you can learn how to manage this debt, understand it, how to consolidate it, whatever it might be, whatever tool makes sense for you. Learn all those skills. Take the quizzes. Go through our budgeting class so you know how to do all this, and go through this and plug it into places and manage it. Go through it. You get it for free.

31:35They're all bundled together for 15 % off now for you guys, but you get it for free, so do it. I'll be pissed if you show back up here and you didn't do it, okay? it's literally access to just free top of the line education of the stuff that you don't know how to do and you keep f***ing up so take it I will take it I promise it's for f***ing Amazon Music and Kindle glad I'm glad we have subscriptions on a card that we can't pay off and another card that has accrued what would we say I actually I don't even know how many of them are late fees or over the credit limit fees but$200 of fees this year so far well done I am curious what those fees are.

32:14Well, no, because if it's just late fees, then that means I just need to set my reminders. If that's only late fees, then you were late every month this year. Oh, then it can't just be late fees. Exactly, which is even worse, that you have a mixture of late fees and above credit limit fees. That's stupid. That is mismanagement, immaturity, unknowing how to use credit cards as a tool. You just said, well, shouldn't I be able to have access to the tool? You didn't know you were above the credit limit. So no, you can't even come close to these. You need to run from credit cards. You are making them so much money and you are getting no benefit from it because these are all, again, over maxed out on this one.

32:53That last one was pretty close to maxed out. So that's not benefiting your credit. Your utilization is well beyond 33%. Yes. Yes, it is. So what are we doing? What kind of tool are you trying to take advantage of? It's taking advantage of you. Well, the plan I had that was working for a long time was the American Express was explicitly for groceries. For six months? Yes. And then I moved. You said a long time. So I want to clarify. Six months. Go on. The American Express was exclusively for groceries because I earned triple points and cash back when I used it at grocery stores. Oh, you got drawn in so hard.

33:28Okay. Go on. Well, no, because I have paid for entire bills with that card using those points. Oh, yeah. And now you've lost. magnitude 20 times what benefits you've ever gotten by far. Not even close. A hundred times probably. But continue. Your grand strategy that worked for, let's see. Let's see. You know, have a little point or 1.6 % of your life. Your grand strategy has worked for 1.6 % of your life. So go ahead. Tell me about this master plan. the Amazon card was exclusively for Amazon purchases. And the plan was that every time I would make an Amazon purchase, I would set up my debit account bill pay that I would go in at the end of each week and just send a payment straight to that card.

34:21So that way it always had like a zero revolving balance. Sounds like a thrilling plan. And it worked until I moved and fell off of the bandwagon. Because six months is nothing. Correct. Anyone can do anything for six months. Death. Causing death. Okay, like behavior discipline stuff, yes. Yeah. Come on. And I know that these habits take time and I know I fell off the bandwagon really hard because... When was this? About a year and a half ago, I think. So a fourth of the time in the last two years you did okay. When I went through one of my breakups and moved. That was that period of time. That was the cheater.

35:03Why are you not able to control anything? because again, if you were using this correctly, if you were using money correctly, you would have had an emergency fund, meaning you would have not gone into debt through a breakup. The cheater makes sense. Stay in the wrong hole. Boom. Bye bye. But that doesn't mean you go into debt. I never really planned for the future. It's not even planning for the future. That's just making sure you don't get f***ed in life. It's not planning for the future because you don't plan for, you don't know what emergencies are going to happen. Well, right. But having that 12 month emergency fund is like having six.

35:33I wouldn't want a 12 month. That would be my goal. But sure. But having that having that fallback is like planning for the future. And it's funny, I was actually listening to a podcast on the way here that talked about psychology behind like the way that people spend. And one of the things that they talked about is breaking out of the mindset that like if you grew up poor, that when you get a bunch of money, you are uncomfortable with like holding on to it. I definitely think that that's a big part of why it happened. It's not a good reason for it, but I do think that's part of why it happened, is because these triggers would happen and I would just be like, oh, no more bandwagon, back into the old habits, back to what's comfortable.

36:12Almost$1 ,000 in interest is here so far on this card alone. Ooh. Insane. Yeah, yeah, no kidding. And again, you didn't even know it was a couple of minutes. No, I didn't. All right, Barclays. For what? Is this a standard Barclays? So that was, I originally opened that card when I was in college. I used it to finance my MacBook for school. Classic. All right. I did pay off the MacBook. I didn't get any penalties or interest on it. And then that was the same card that had the balance transfer deal once I paid off the laptop. Cool. Well, you owe$1 ,072 on here. The total credit line of$1 ,300. It used to be a lot more.

36:55I'm glad it's not because, again, you don't know how to manage access to debt.

37:03Yeah. So I would not want you to have it. It takes six years to pay off with the minimum monthly payment.

37:16There is not a card that we've looked at that hasn't had basically$200 in fees this year so far. you keep talking about the six months or you did well i wouldn't care if you did well for 20 years if the three cards the first three cards that i put in no particular order by the way the first three cards we looked at all had late fees and above credit limit fees i would never want you to even look at a credit card again for the rest of your life that's beyond insane people on the the show up all the time. That doesn't mean they have late fees and above the credit limit fees. Is that for the whole year?

37:56Yes. Okay. So in my defense this year, I moved to Louisiana. Listen, in my defense, you move every second of your life. So I don't give a, that's not a reason anymore. You always move. That is your choice. Moving doesn't mean let's our life or maybe we wait until we can afford to move. Come on. That's not an excuse. You chose to move to New Orleans. I was in a dangerous situation. Oh my gosh. Oh my. So we have to move. Yes. Okay. Yes. Oh, okay. The holidays are here. And if you're anything like me, your budget is feeling the squeeze between buying gifts, stocking up on holiday food and other expenses.

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40:16It's just I'm trying to deal with all the things. Sorry. So no, it's OK. I'm just trying to figure out how it all comes together. And it's immediately a difficult perception or not a perception. Well, I guess I can be perceived. So but either way is the difficult thing about it is any time that anything ever you any anything is bad in your finances, it comes down to something else beyond our controls. It's like, what can I do? Then this isn't a conversation that even involves me. Right. But even still. Why do you have to move like states and cities and why does it have to be this massive move that costs thousands beyond thousands of dollars?

40:56I didn't pay for all of the move. Well, even worse then. So fair. My roommate got out of the military and so he helped pay for that move because we moved in together here. That's worse. Yes. Right. And so the first maybe four months of this year, I wasn't doing a lot of content creation because I just didn't want to. Good. Don't do it if you don't want to. Right. But I wasn't. I'm fine with that. That's true. But I was living beyond my means. Well, that's not chill. Why didn't you go get a job? Why didn't you pour some coffee? Why didn't you drop some McFries in that grease? So I was applying to some jobs.

41:35I was not putting my best foot forward. I was just kind of holding on until the move because the move was in March. Oh, you're talking pre-move. Yeah, yeah. Pre-move. I wasn't doing a lot of... What about once you got there? Dealing with unpacking and... Oh, come on the f*** on. Everyone unpacks when they move. Well, there was a lot of shuffling around. I've had a job when I unpacked things. That's fair. There was a lot of shuffling around, and I didn't prioritize it when I absolutely should have. That is absolutely on me. And, yeah, there was just a lot of shuffling around. We ended up moving three times in a few months.

42:13I don't. We had a friend we were supposed to move in with, and he ended up being a raging douche canoe, so we had to get out of the race. Is there anyone in your life that's not a piece of shit, apparently? My roommate. One person you've ever met. No, there's a few, but I don't live with them and they don't affect my living situation. So.

42:31Remember when I said I had really bad decision making skills? It's not just financial. But it's all not just you, though. You have been in bad situations. That's the hard part. That's the hard part of this conversation is I'm trying to figure out how to navigate. Well, the biggest issue for me is that despite all of the things I do manage to 90 % of the time make enough to cover what. You made more than you spent. Right. Which makes all this more stupid. Right. That's the biggest problem is that I'm just making stupid decisions, like not looking at my statements. That annoys me to hear. I'm sorry.

43:04It annoys me to be this way. I'll tell you why. You know this. So why the don't you do it? I will never understand. I will never understand when I probably do stupid stuff all the time. It happens. But once I at least realize it, that's when I try to do an action to prevent it. If you're doing something stupid and you don't know, you're just ignorant. That's fine because you're just ignorant. You're not ignorant to it. I think I was ignorant to how bad it was because I didn't realize. Sure, but you knew it was bad. I knew it wasn't where I wanted it to be. So why not try to get it to where you want to be?

43:39I have made little steps. No, your debt has gone up. Well, I canceled my gym membership that I wasn't using. I have not. That's the little steps. I haven't been ordering out as much as I used to. The whole first credit card was door dashes on a card that went up in balance. Yes.

43:59Eleven. Furniture and mattress. Thank goodness. Oh, good. We're paying interest on this. Why not? Oh, good. The balance went up. That's wonderful. Because, oh, good. The amount is past due. We're$41 past due. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Well done. Come on. We're not even. Huh? I forgot again. That was definitely. This can't. Well, autopay. Have you never heard of autopay in your life? It is this great new invention that's been around for decades. Are you kidding me? Auto pay me really bad. You're f***ing yourself. What do you mean? You're making it much worse than it ever f***ed you, most likely. Well, no, because...

44:29What? You got an overdraft of 35 bucks once? You're getting charged an extra million, jillion dollars a year. So for a minute when I wasn't making enough to cover the bills, the auto pay tried four times in two weeks. Yeah. How did you not see it after one? I did. And I tried to tell them to stop pulling it. And they said, oh, well, it's already started. We can't do anything about it. Why did you have the money? Because I wasn't working when I should have been. And I wasn't working hard enough. Yes. There's nothing to transfer anywhere else? No. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And again, that was 100 % on me.

45:05But guess what? Yes. Never have no money in your account again that you don't have to worry about this. This is pretty basic. Yes. And now I don't. Sometimes it's more complicated than it sounds, but not in this instance. You're f***ing yourself. And even those four overdraft fees, you're still paying more in fees this year so far than those four. So you're making it worse. You can't forget this. Set yourself a timer. If you don't know how the f***ing calendar works, set it on auto pay. It's as easy as that. It's just basic. Yep. Great. She agrees. I agree. Isn't she doing it? Great. You can do that and try to get out of this little pushback.

45:40You can't just agree, but never do it. That's not how these conversations work. That is a get out. And I don't want you to just get out and then keep going the way you're doing without actually realizing what you're doing is wrong. No. And that's the biggest problem is that I know what I'm doing and I know that I am f***ing up and I want to fix it. And I am finding resources. Hello. What? I'm finding resources to help me learn. Me? Okay. Yeah. To like help me learn how to do the things that I should be doing. What resources? There was a podcast. I couldn't think of the word. A podcast that I was listening to that was like teaching about the psychology of money and how to like reframe the thinking around it.

46:27Are you one of those people that always takes in all the information but never actually does anything in their life? Because I've worked with people like that as well where they just read self-help books forever, entrepreneurial books forever. Then they never actually do anything in their life and they just endlessly consume the information. Because that worries me. because that is almost everyone I know that goes down that road. No. Instead of the people that actually get out there and do. I would say I consume it and then I actually end up implementing maybe 30 % at a time and then I'll go back and redo it.

46:54What has been implemented here? I see a mispayment. I took it off the auto pay because it was overdrafting the account when I didn't have the money in the account about a year ago. Okay. It's not a year ago anymore. You have money in the account. Yes. I don't have a better answer for that other than I just haven't put it back on. That is almost completely paid off and it will be closed when it's paid off. I don't know how you pay off a card with zero dollars of payments and forty one dollars of fees and seven dollars, seven cents, 70 cents of interest. Oh, it just must have missed by a day or two because I usually pay more than the minimum balance on that.

47:29Didn't. And now it's gone up. Just like the other cards we've looked at so far, except for one. So I don't know what you're talking about. USAA.

47:43$2 ,282.87. New cash advances,$100. Ah, here it is. The special little guy. Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. We're basically almost at the credit limit. Shocker. What is the cash advance? I didn't know I could do that on that card. What's your minimum payment normally? Zero. They literally say zero every time I log in, but I have an Excel sheet that tells me what I should pay. $34.89 of interest. What you should pay should be all of it. What do you mean instead of, what do you mean? So the Excel sheet I put together for myself has like the current balance, the interest rate, and the payment I need to make if I want to pay it off in 12 months.

48:21It's basically 12 months. Well, good luck with that because with the way you're managing your finances, that's not even coming close to an option. 12 months from when? Now? It's always going to be now. 12 months from now. Tomorrow will be 12 months from now. That is the problem I've run into. Uh-huh. Which is not cute. No. guess what? You don't have enough money in your USA check account, so it would true. We took it over. You cash advance,$100, overdraft protection from your credit card. That should not be turned on. They did it. That's going to be a fun phone call. Honestly, why would you be entitled to something with the phone call anyway?

49:01Because you did not have the money. it's not your legal ability to spend someone else's money no no no not because it should have been overdrafted but because the cash advance should have been turned off because I ran into that before and the cash advances should have been turned off I can tell you all I know is you did not have enough money in your checking account to do something you tried to do and then you did it and now you have this cash advance overdraft fee so regardless even if you turned it off you still f***ed up major well and I don't even have that debit card Literally the money in that checking account is just for my renter's insurance, I think, or my car insurance.

49:41One of those. One's usually$5 and the other one could be like$500. So that's kind of. I had it bundled for a while and I can't remember if I had canceled one. It was one of them. Then are we really surprised that the person that doesn't know if it's a$5 or$500 charge in there is overdrafting? No, you know nothing about your accounts. No, because I had. You don't know a single thing. I had an automatic transfer from my main checking account to that account a week before the payment was supposed to come out. We'll just have to see. Yeah, so I'm not sure. That's why I'm surprised. Maybe you don't have enough money in the account that you transferred from.

50:14Maybe we're overdrafted from an overdraft from an overdraft. It shouldn't be, but I mean, we'll see. We'll see. All I know is$400 in interest this year so far, and you've had a late payment as well on this card. Are we shocked every single card's had a late payment because we're an adult apparently in our 30s. allegedly oops what just the late payments is whoops late payment whoops we're f***ing our life whoops we don't have retirement whoops I move every second of my life and I never do it with an emergency fund and I don't have jobs set up whoops what do you mean whoops once a year you kind of everyone like I'm on your side and then all of a sudden you just f*** it whoops this is not cute this is not funny this is seriously your life do not understand that.

51:00This is a big old classic. I hate this. Why do I get so angry people wonder sometimes because every single f***ing time it feels like or at least 75 % of the time it just feels like I give a s*** more about your life and your finances than you do. And that rages me because you are a person that exists on this earth and you deserve to live a good life but it is in your control and you're choosing not to and I can give you an ability of how to get there but you're like whoops a cutesy little whoops f*** your whoops. That is a whole big dose of copium right there that is me making light because I'm very disappointed in myself.

51:33Sorry. Wells Fargo $1 ,595.14 with a minimum monthly payment of 52 bucks. Nothing happened here except for interest charging 35 bucks. Okay. Oh gosh. If I see fees that have been charged this year so far, I'm unfortunately actually not going to be surprised so it doesn't matter anyway well you know basically$200 of fees back to our classic rounded nice $200 you know having many late payments many many many late payments because we don't know how to push a button to turn on automatic payments or set a timer or look at a calendar or manage your life or know what's happening in any sense of any account of anything I wonder how you manage other things I wonder how you manage your work schedule I wonder how you manage your friend's schedule.

52:26I wonder how you manage anything. Because you don't know how to manage your financial schedule. And this has repercussions that are monetary. And you're destroying your entire life. Over$400 of interest. I'd be very curious to see the rest of your life. Because right now this is a complete disaster. And I don't know how you manage anything else. Do you even have an envelope anywhere in your house? A folder? Yes. Nothing in it? You've never looked at it? No, I have a filing cabinet. I'm sure you do. I do. Oh, I bet there's things. At least one or two. You're f***ing late on your student loans. Are you kidding me?

52:57They should be in deferment or forbearance or something, right? I got an email about that two weeks ago. Passed to amount$203. F*** you. What? But I've been getting emails that say... No, no, no. From who? Spam accounts? No, from them. And the last time I logged in... Your regular monthly payment is$46. You don't know what you're talking about. No, the last time I logged in, it said I had no minimum payment. So I don't... Your monthly payment is$46, also known as from the statement that you sent us. So... That's okay. Last payment was April. That's why you have$249, even though your minimum monthly payment is$46.

53:36What a f***ing... Well, right, because that's when they told me I owed a payment because I got an email. How have you survived? I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at just how ridiculous this is. And then how you think it is versus the reality of it is always so polar opposite. You always think something and it is the literal opposite. Every account we look at. This is crazy. I don't know how you've survived to your 30s. Carefully. This is not careful. You don't carefully miss every payment since the fourth month of the year. Well, and that's what I'm saying. That's fucking stumbling. I got an email saying that I owed a payment.

54:12So I went in and I made a payment. And then the next month I logged in and it said I did not owe a payment. And even when I got that statement, it said I had a zero dollar minimum or zero zero dollar payment due. Maybe that's for a different one. I don't know. But for this, you do. OK. They just got put into save. It looks like they just got put into save. But these are past payments before I entered deferment that you haven't paid. You weren't even paying your bills before. You must have just got put in deferment. And then the deferment in the Save Act is a lot of it's on pause right now because it's being challenged in courts.

54:43So regardless. this so they must be old payments old payments from this year not that old well remember you just trying to suggest that you being good for six months was a lifetime your payments are from six months ago so stop old payments for sake old payments you don't know what an old payment is fifty thousand dollars basically in student loans what did you get a degree in anything in law no psychology you said so i changed majors a whole bunch of times How many times? Five. Oh, for how many years? Like seven. Oh, for sake. OK. And did you graduate after seven? Yes. OK. What's your degree? Paralegal studies.

55:25OK. So a bachelor in paralegal studies. It's an associate's. You got an associate's after seven years? So how many credit hours did you take? This is so much money. Where did you go to school? So originally I was at the community college in Southern California. and I would not get you to 47 ,000 hours of student loans well I started when I was in high school and then I so I was taking those classes I was a linguistics major and then I switched to a business school it was one of those accelerated programs that was supposed to be like 18 months to a bachelor's degree are you do you get easily distracted are you on to like the next thing after like six, well, you move every two months.

56:06So you must. Yeah. Well, this is demonstrated in your life. You're moving because you move cross country everywhere. You've been in Italy once. I mean, come on. And then you were moving majors once a year. It's like, I don't think you can sit still. You're on to the next thing constantly. You're on Twitch and you're not Twitch. And then we're tatas. And then we are paralegal. It's we're all over the place. Yes. You can't. And that makes me very nervous because the debt payoff journey is usually a multi-year journey, get a fully funded emergency fund, and then saving up for retirement is a lifelong journey because it's taking advantage of compound interest and time.

56:36You know, you put your money in, you know, my favorite investing account, Moo Moo. Good. That grows. Boom. Then I'm able to retire. Wonderful. That's a lifetime thing. You can't just be changing things every nine months. Well, and again, I did do it once. I, and it took two years. You don't associate degrees in seven years. Well, right. So I, I went to, I transferred to the business school because all of my credits transferred. All of my credits from the community college transferred to the business school. And I was doing that. It was an accelerated program. And that's when I got married. And the semesters were six weeks.

57:06And I told them I needed my books two weeks ahead of time so I could order them. I'm sorry. I don't need the whole thing. I really don't. It's okay. Anyway. I appreciate it. Business, turbine planning. And then that didn't work out. Then I was a psychology major. Realized I didn't want to get a PhD to make$50 ,000 a year. So I did my associate's degree. Finished that out. Okay. Okay. So I do have a degree. but it took me a long time to get there. Well, it took you a lot of money to get there. That's the most concerning part. Yes, it did. Because now you owe this. And guess what? Department of Education is going to get a new person.

57:42At this point, it looks like Mahone, I think. One of the co-founders of WWE. I don't know if she wants to forgive your student loans or not. Who knows if she wants to uphold the save plan. A lot of it is up to the Department of Education head. Yep. I don't know. Who knows what she wants to do? Yep. Girl might come to you and she might say, fuck you. Or she might give you a big hug and forgive your loans. We don't know. It's administration to administration. But I wouldn't bet on it. Right. So why not pay on these? You have the money. We know you have the money. Your needs are relatively minimal.

58:17You're just fucking up. You could be paying on these with the higher likely chance that you will have to pay on them. So make progress on them. Instead of allowing interest to accrue, instead of allowing late payments to accrue, they can garnish your wages. they will come and get you. They'll get you. Yep. Hey, you. Look at me. My job is to sit right here and be the absolute stunning figure that I am. And some things I can't help, like my incredible ass, which is why you're all here, of course. But also, some things are in my control. For example, the pearly whites. I yap a lot. Some would say too much.

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1:00:00You didn't even know you're late. You probably haven't looked at your credit report. You don't look into your checking account once. We had a cash advance from a credit card because you didn't have enough money in a checking account because you probably didn't withdraw the right amount to that other account from another account. You know what you're doing. Better decisions. You've never made a better decision before. So that can't be true. It's the start of the decision. What start? Right. So again, the USAA account, because it was supposed to be an automatic transfer. No, I understand it. But what start is better decisions?

1:00:29Because I am not seeing them reflected in the accounts in front of us. So I'm not going to let you get away with that and have a pat on the back thinking you're doing OK. You're doing one of the worst. Your debts are not the worst I've seen on the show. Your behavior and your management of your accounts are some of the worst I've seen in two and a half years of doing this show. So I am not going to let you give yourself a gold star no absolutely it's so the better decisions are when i had the 25 000 in debt i was literally maxing out all of my cards all of the time i was only making the minimum payment which wasn't even enough to cover the interest i was making and i was late all the time because i never looked at it these or you could have paid it all off with your 250 000 in cash that you made but you decided to blow on what what what did you spend the money on So most, a fair amount of it went to my car.

1:01:21I put. What is it? It's a Subaru Outback 2020. Is that a$250 ,000 car? No, no. So I put$16 ,000 down on it and that is paid off. $16 ,000. $250 ,000. I'm going to need a little gap filling. And not like the gap filling that's done in your content. I don't do that kind of content, to be fair. But the content creator X did take a lot. Like management? Was he trying to suggest management? No, it was straight up financial abuse. Am I going to have his people come after me for filming this? Because I don't know who he is. I can't speak good or bad about him because I just don't know him. But you're trashing him on here.

1:02:08Well, I spent about a year and a half of when I was a full-time content creator, I spent about a year and a half talking about all of this stuff very publicly. And both of those accounts got banned. But you're anonymous on here. But to them, you're not going to be anonymous. I mean, you're using a fake name here, but they know who you are probably, right? I mean, maybe if they still recognize me. He would. That's fair. And our clips go pretty viral. I mean, just don't put his name on it. He'll be fine. You said his name. Bleep it out. I'm not wrong.

1:02:44I don't know. I don't know. I don't know him. I can't speak good or bad about someone I literally do not know. That's not how I operate. That's fair. But I don't want his people to be like, no, I'll kill the hammer. Because I don't know. Well, okay. Just because you're coming on here and talking. So of that money, I paid for him to move across the country. I paid at one point I went through our checking accounts because he accused me of being bad with money and. Hold on. Wait, that's not what you said earlier. What? He accused you of stealing. Now you're saying he accused you of being bad. He accused me of being bad with money.

1:03:17He basically stole the money because. Was he saying you couldn't management? I feel like there's. Listen. Because I instinctively, my gut, my heart, even though I'm an annoying devil's advocate, my heart is to just be like yes 100 support she's 100 right but i know for a fact especially based in the internet drama space and this kind of is that to be honest always a thousand sides to a story always and so i don't even kind of want to listen to this right now because i just don't want to pretend to have an opinion because i don't know i can summarize it as that relationship probably costed me about$75 ,000.

1:04:02Awesome. I spent$75 ,000 on that relationship. That's expensive dick. Okay, so. Not worth it. Not worth it. But yeah, so that. Okay, okay, okay. Do you have any more debt? I don't think so. Both of my vehicles are paid off. Both vehicles, I was going to say. Yes. This other one we have at$16 ,000 of value. So good job with there. What's the other vehicle? Motorcycle. Kawasaki. So probably a few thousand. Like six, I think, is what I looked at it, which I'm trying to sell it. Sell it. Yeah. Because I don't use it. So. Yeah, dude, that'll sort of take care of some debt. Are you kidding me? That's not even an option.

1:04:40Yeah. What are we doing? OK. OK. Pansy Bank. Any balance for 60. That is pretty risky. Never know when certain things say. Oh, my. This is all highlighted, which means it's all. It's 80 bucks on Amazon. Buttercrisp Diner? Amazon. Oh, you went inside a market, got something? In post? McDonald's, Barkley Oak. Lots of, what are these Google things? Are these in-app purchases? Are you Android? Yeah. Oh, so that's what it is. It's not Google. It's you buying things or getting subscriptions or something. Fall Fest. Ain't any occasion.

1:05:30Brazilian Bites Brew Pub Smoke Galore Please don't tell me you're giving yourself cancer I don't smoke cigarettes Great yeah the other ones are so good We had someone with a collapsed lung on the show Fun fact because she kept vaping Keep doing that That'll get you good places Subscriptions are in at purchases McDonald's Spotify Can't afford to live but guess what guys At least we're ad free Comedy comedy comedy Well, that's a very expensive comedy. And then Voodoo Chicken and Burger King and Frenchman Art. Bow me. Go inside and get in some bulls*** from the gas station. Matassa.

1:06:10Pantéonaisal. Huh? Well, let me see it. Which one? Chris Steiner. More Pantéonaisal. I don't know what you're saying. The one on the bottom. More Pantéonaisal and Pantéonaisal. Oh, that's probably a Google Play. What are you doing? Because there's like a million. There's like a ten more on this next page. They're little. And then Flamingo Road Farm. Yeah, but what are they is what I'm asking because they're stacking up to like a hundred bucks or something. Well, Buttercrisp Diners. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're panting or lethal. I don't know because I don't recognize. Are they video games?

1:06:46Are you buying gems? Are you a little gem girl? What are you doing? Yeah. Stop. I know. I was dopamine seeking last month. It was really bad. It's not cute. I know it's not cute, but it was really, really not fun. Go to a park in the sun. Do you see how pale I am? I'm translucent. I sunburn in like 45 seconds. Oh, that's interesting. We've never invented sunscreen before. I wear sunscreen. I still sunburn. Wear stronger sunscreen. I wear SPF 75. I have the whitest creature that's ever been born in this office. Her scalp burns the moment she steps outside. Like, I get it. She's a ginger. She's a disgrace to society.

1:07:29I understand what it's like. It's like, go everywhere with her and then she melts. Okay? So, you can go outside. Venmo, Venmo, Venmo, Venmo, Venmo, Venmo, Venmo, Venmo. Great. Who are you Venmoing? You're Venmoing everyone in the life. My roommate, probably. Okay. Yeah, yeah,$100. $100 on your little in-app bull...

1:07:56more pnc thousand hours in this one so that's actually yeah so the this one is my debit card account where i do my spending that one is also a checking account but that's where i do all of my bills out of why overcomplicate it i so that if you literally just have a budget you don't need more than one account yeah i don't have a hey look where it's ending yeah like where it's leaving us I thought having it separated like this. So if I kept all of my money in that account. When did you think that? About two years ago. How have we been? It was great. And now it is for six months for a fourth of the time.

1:08:31So maybe not a good statistical average to go for. So potentially we don't can do the thing that's not working. So it's a crazy concept. If it did work, then. But it's not. It didn't work 75 % of the time. Why the f*** would I bet on the 25? What are you talking about? Because if I go back to the habits I had. It's worked 25 % of the time since you tried to start. So it's not working. Guys, what am I dealing with here? Stop. Please stop. $82 in this bullshit account. Again, what is it? Savings? Yeah. Something. I don't know. Chase. I can't read it. It's either$948 or$600. It's six. Six something.

1:09:18it's really blurry Chase doesn't let you download statements and then make redactions on there for your privacy the screenshot and then do it it's really bad come on Chase okay this is mostly moving money cash after it's$256 in there money coming in what are you getting? 15 bucks? 5 bucks? 25 bucks? for what? I honestly have no idea bonus tatas? no okay oh sometimes I'll My friends will cash out me stuff if I, like, take them out to dinner. They'll cash out me back. You can't afford dinner. $234 in this account. Again, this is where the money moved into because you did not have enough money. And there it is.

1:09:58Right. So that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm confused about the cash advance. It should be there.

1:10:07Because$10 went out there. It tried to pull up$10 there. $150 in there. I don't know. I don't know. At the point of this, you had negative$5, and that's when it dinged. Yeah. So you had$4 to start with, and then it tried to pull out$10. So are you surprised? So it brought in money. Now you're paying 30 % interest on it. Well done. $708. This looks like credit karma. What is this? It's a credit karma savings account. That's where that – Oh, savings? Yes. So I have that completely out of sight, out of mind, so that way I don't spend it. You're set for life. 700 bucks. Well, I only started that about a year ago.

1:10:51What? That's a joke for a year. Well, if that was our focus, not necessarily that it should be, but don't try to make that sound good saying, no, it's okay. I only started a year ago. Well, it only does like 10 or 15 or 10 or$20 a month. It's just more of like, it's, that's not my, my six month reserve that I'm trying to build. That is just an extra savings account. Why would you have an extra savings account? What do you mean? You don't even have a normal savings account. Well, I do. Yeah, it was$60. It didn't. I moved the money around. What do you mean? If you don't have an emergency fund, why the f*** are you having another savings account?

1:11:24What are you talking about? Because if I don't have the money in sight, I'm not spending it. Why wouldn't it just be your emergency fund? Why are you having something separate that's not your emergency fund when you don't have an emergency fund? Because I want my emergency fund to be in a high-yield savings account. I don't care. Put that there. You don't have a dollar. You don't have any money saved out for an emergency fund. So why is there a separate account? Do you not understand my question? No. If you do not have the basic minimum required savings account, why are you trying to build this extra one that you are supposed to do after having this one?

1:11:57Remember that conversation earlier about having a couple of good ideas and really bad execution? This is a really bad execution. I hate this. This is like, that's not a real answer. Your real answer is like, I already know I'm f***ed up, but I do nothing to solve it. Stupid. That's legitimately stupid. Can we be honest? Yes. That's dumb. Yes. And that's not... See, there it is again. She knows it's dumb, but she doesn't do anything about it. This is infuriating. You can't just... It's not that I want you to disagree with me, but the fact that you are 100 % on board and agreeable with everything has to be incorrect because you're overdraft and you have late fees on every f***ing account.

1:12:36So there is no way that you actually agree with me. Because if you do, you would be doing something, but you're doing nothing. which means you don't either, you're, you're, you're, the f***. I agree that the decisions are stupid. I disagree that the reasoning for them is bad because I have or had a plan. Total income that comes in$4 ,750. For f***s sake. This debt is a joke, dude. You f***ing make money. And your minimum payments are not stacking up to that much for your money. Your rent situation is beyond blessed. Come on. your debt minimum payments are$260. What's your total rent again? $800?

1:13:20That including internet and everything? No. Internet is about$100 and my phone is also about$100. You pay$100 for internet? Yes. You pay for the whole internet? Yes. It's a tax write-off. The whole thing. Are you 100 % sure? Have you looked at that? Because, you know, when you do, when you calculate a space used for your taxes, you do the room that you use. You can't claim the whole place. Are you sure for internet at your home? Yes. Because you're not only using it for work. That's what the CPA told me. Okay. I don't know about that. Again, you're sitting down with the advisors we're going to connect you to.

1:13:52Phone bill,$100, not bad. If you don't on your phone, I'd switch to Helium. It's the same towers as T-Mobile. It's$15 a month. What? I hate T-Mobile. I had T-Mobile for like two years. I switched to AT &T. Well, where? AT &T? Yeah. Nobody likes AT &T, though. I love AT &T. I guess it's just different areas. I've never had an issue with AT &T. Oh, really? Like, it's a little bit more expensive. That sucked here. Well, I also pay a little bit more because I have, like, the priority data. So I never lose searches. Well, I don't care. I've only had good with Verizon and T-Mobile. But whatever. That's fine.

1:14:26We'll put it as$100. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive. Skirt, skirt, crash, crash. Tolls and gas. Don't take tolls, you creature. I have to. You do not have to. There's always an alternative. The alternative would have... In the south, at least. The alternative would add 30 minutes to my commute. There you go. Wonderful. You got it. Congratulations. How much is the toll every time you go through? Two and a half bucks. One way. So it doesn't charge me going back the other direction. It only charges me going one way across the bridge. That probably works. Okay. How much? I would say probably$250.

1:14:57Okay. Car insurance? I have full comprehension. I just pulled it down. Comprehension? Yeah. Comprehensive? Yeah. Is it not full comprehension? Oh, full, whatever. That one. The one that covers. You don't have comprehension of anything. That's so fair. Okay, I just brought it down a little bit. It was 360. I think I brought it down to 280. Renters insurance? My roommate covers it. So it's included in my living expenses. But is it under your name, the insurance? No. You don't have rent. I am a covered party, but it is not. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. TP Fund, anything else you need to survive? Is it your nails?

1:15:44Is it your toilet paper? Whatever. $100. You're going to meal prep. Use our menu and everything meal plan. And the budgeting program to get to your needs. $300 for groceries. Cooking a couple times a week. Congratulations. Yes. Very exciting. Medical. Healthcare. Anything like that? Monthly basis. Yes. I would say probably$150 a month. Okay. Cool. Any pets? Yes. What? What? I have a cat. Cat food, how much? Ooh. Come on. Let me think. I think it's 120 plus her medication, including her medication. Including her medication. Okay. Pet insurance? No. Okay. Pet insurance. Yes. I need to. She's getting old and I need to.

1:16:27She's getting old. You might not be able to get pet insurance. Oh. You f***ed up. Yeah. Irresponsible. Okay. Then I'll leave that blank for now. No subscription. what do you need for work stuff your your extra work how and what how much in subscriptions or ongoing expenses i don't think i have any subscriptions for that but what was the one i was just thinking of it was right there oh probably something big long purple and floppy. It's not a subscription. It's a one-time purchase. Well, it's even for work. No. Okay. If you can think of it, let me know. The video editing software. How much? $60 a quarter.

1:17:19Okay. We'll put that at$20. Congratulations. As we all expected this entire conversation, it's super easy. You make double what your minimum of the expenses are. You're just acting like a child. And you're enabling yourself by endlessly making excuses. Lots of bad things were in your past, but you're allowing them to be a cripple as of why you're not allowed to get ahead. Congratulations. You're able to pay off all your debt except for your student loans in about four months and get a fully funded emergency fund in about four more months. What a joke. What? Are you kidding me? Come on. This is so stupid.

1:17:55And an extra multi-thousand dollar a month. This is so dumb. I'm done with this conversation. You're literally just using crutches. It's so stupid. I'm sorry, but that irritates me. You can get out of this almost easier than anyone on the show. What a joke. Come on. Spending a budget you were under, but it still was very close, and none of it was going to actually make progress on debt, and you weren't making minimum payments 3 out of 10. Debt? Well, okay. The past IRS debt, so that'll include something else. Okay. Well, okay. Let's think first. okay so you have an extra two thousand let's call it two thousand because you're just going to set the money side of taxes you can get out of that one two three four five about five and a half months and then uh oh let's call it six months six months irs let's save up about 10 so you can do that in about five so we're 10 months in cool so 10 months in you paid off your past taxes, pay off your past debt, save up for a fully funded emergency fund, which for you is going to be about 10 ,000 bucks.

1:19:00That's called another five months. Really? Actually, you have 250 bucks left extra a month. So it's going to even go quicker from there. But whatever. I think, yeah, sure. Just over here. Congratulations. Wonderful. But your debt is stupid. But luckily, none of it's in collections. But it is because of what you're doing and not making the payments on student loans. I'm not going to give you better than a 2 out of 10. If you're actually making your payments on this, for your debt situation, it's not the most dangerous. Or worse, but I'm going to bring it down because you're just f***ing it up so bad.

1:19:33Emergency fund, if like a little bit set aside, 1 out of 10, you're almost a tenth of the way there. Retirement, anything? You need to catch up on that quickly, but we'll talk about that in the follow-up when you're ready to come back on the follow-up YouTube channel. Real estate, and you can take the investing class as well. You'll do both. Real estate, 0 out of 10 for now. Now, it's going to be a Hammer financial score. Wonderful. 1.5 out of 10. Guys, make sure to join us in the post show. We're going to talk about a lot of that more X-rated stuff that we weren't able to talk about in this because of demonetization things.

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