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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary: Financial Audit: 90-Day Fiancé
Episode Overview The episode features a guest, Jedediah, who shares his experiences related to international relationships and the financial implications of getting engaged to a woman from Cameroon. Host Caleb Hammer conducts an in-depth financial audit, unraveling Jedediah's spending habits, debts, and financial goals.
Key Discussions
Introduction to the Guest
- Jedediah, 36, from Colorado Springs, shares that he recently got engaged to a woman from Cameroon.
- The episode includes humorous exchanges about cultural differences and the complexities of international dating.
The Relationship Context
- Jedediah met his fiancé via OkCupid’s passport mode while exploring international matches.
- He details his experience of communicating with women from various countries, including Brazil and Turkey, before ultimately choosing to pursue a relationship with his Cameroonian fiancé.
Financial Implications of Getting Engaged
- Discussion revolves around the concept of paying a dowry (approximately $1,000) for marriage traditions in Cameroon.
- Jedediah's initial message to his fiancé was candid, asking if she wanted to move to the U.S. with him.
Spending Habits and Financial Audit
- Jedediah's monthly income is around $10,000, but he spends disproportionately, often exceeding his earnings.
- He reveals significant spending on trips (e.g., traveling to Cameroon for engagement) and medical bills, leading to high credit card debt.
- Emergency spending, including car repairs and medical expenses, is highlighted as a recurring theme.
The Role of Credit Cards
- Jedediah utilizes multiple credit cards, often incurring substantial debt without paying it off before interest accrues.
- His financial strategy includes taking advantage of promotional offers and cash back programs, but this leads to overspending and financial instability.
Future Financial Goals
- Jedediah expresses a desire to buy a house and eventually start a chicken farm, indicating a long-term vision for his life with his fiancé.
- The episode touches on concerns about the sustainability of his financial habits and the potential risk of falling into debt, especially once his fiancé arrives in the U.S.
Key Takeaways
- Emergency Funds vs. Spending: Jedediah drains his emergency fund for non-emergency expenses, which poses a significant risk.
- Cultural Differences: The podcast highlights how cultural practices, like dowry, intertwine with personal finance in international relationships.
- Unrealistic Financial Behavior: The guest's tendency to overspend, especially on discretionary items, is scrutinized, revealing a lack of budget discipline.
- Future Implications: Jedediah’s financial situation raises concerns about his ability to support his fiancé and plan for their future together.
Financial Ratings
- Budgeting: 0 out of 10 (Overspending habits)
- Debt Management: 2 out of 10 (High credit card debt)
- Emergency Fund: 6 out of 10 (Inadequate for covering six months of expenses)
- Retirement Savings: 4 out of 10 (Significantly behind for his age)
Conclusion The episode encapsulates the challenges of managing finances within the context of personal relationships, especially when cultural practices and significant expenditures are involved. It serves as a cautionary tale about the importance of budgeting, financial planning, and maintaining an emergency fund, particularly when embarking on major life changes like marriage.
For further insight and additional content, listeners are encouraged to join the post-show discussion or access resources related to budgeting and financial planning.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28This episode is brought to you by State Farm. The world moves fast. Your workday? Even faster. Pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data. Microsoft 365 Copilot is your AI assistant for work. Built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and other Microsoft 365 apps you use. Helping you quickly write, analyze, create, and summarize. So you can cut through clutter and clear a path to your best work. Learn more at Microsoft.com slash M365 Copilot. To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. You know 90 Day Fiance? Yeah, I mean, I know 90 Day Fiance. What's different here?
1:07I mean, there's nothing really different about it. So just fully mail-ordered bride. Well, I guess I did pay a dowry. I met a girl from Brazil. I met a girl from Turkey. Yeah, I think they want to come here. That's kind of what my message said. Oh, what did it say? Would you like to come move to America with me? It's getting lonely in my apartment with my cat. Oh, no! Download my budgeting app today and take control of your money once and for all. And for a limited time only, sign up for the annual version of Premium and get my cookbook and notebook signed and mailed directly to you. Link in the description and pinned comment below.
1:41Hi, this is Jedediah. I'm 36. I'm from near Colorado Springs, Colorado. And this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming over to Austin, man. Glad to be here. Glad to be here. I don't think you're allowed to wear that. Oh, I for sure am. I mean, I can't believe you'd even say anything like that. Is this a cultural appropriation comment? I don't know. I just feel like the internet is telling me that the internet would be mad. The internet is already telling you? Yeah. Oh, well, no. Well, what are we doing? So I bought it. They told me to buy it. Oh, they told me to buy it. And yeah, so I think it's okay.
2:19I mean, I was requested to buy it for an engagement ceremony. Whose are you going to? Mine. You're buying it for your engagement ceremony. Yeah. But you're wearing it out in public. Well, yeah, because I thought it would be funny. You hear that, whatever culture this is? No, no. I thought, well. No, I'm kidding. I don't give a fuck. Trust me. I'm not someone that would get offended. I was pretty sure you were going to lead with a cultural appropriation comment. I called it. I called it. Called it. It's just the internet. The internet. I don't give a fuck. Anyone does. But, okay. So, you're engaged.
2:53Yeah. Or you're getting engaged? Yeah, just got engaged. Just got engaged. Is that the culture of the person you're getting engaged to? Yeah. And then the colors are their native town and tribe. So like each area in the country has like a different colors. What is it? What country? Well, the country is Cameroon and the region is Bermuda. Is that like her roots or is she like there right now? Yeah. Well, both. Yeah. Well, she's in Cameroon still, but she's in the big city, and she's from Bemidah. What is happening two weeks in a row of like a 90-day fiancé African version? Yeah. I guess talk to Lindsay.
3:36Yeah. This is interesting. This is a double dipper. What are we doing? I mean, okay.
3:47What did you even find her on? Okay, Cupid. Were you like in Africa on the maps? No, no. Oh, okay. So they had a passport mode. And so, okay, OkCupid's like a less popular one. You know, right now Hinge is like the big thing. Then Tinder and Bumble have been around for a while, right? So I wasn't like, I'd kind of gone through those already. I was just like, what's going on in OkCupid? You know, I haven't heard about that in a while. Sure. And so instantly, you know, I did a few swipes and instantly I was suddenly in Denver, you know, so I was out of the locals like in, you know. So let's jump to Cameroon.
4:21Well, they have passport mode. Right. but there's states surrounding Colorado, but sure. Yeah, okay. So then I did passport mode. And so, yeah, I was just messaging girls from like kind of everywhere, not just Cameroon. Did you like drop your little passport mode in the middle of Africa? Just like, oh. No, you know, I don't think their passport mode worked like that from what I remember. I mean, I could be totally wrong. I think it was just showing me girls from all sorts of different places. Has she always lived there? Yeah, she's always lived there. so like i met a girl from brazil i met a girl from turkey i met a girl from nigeria um so you know you would be on tlc right well no um what's different here what do you mean why would i be on tlc what's different here than the traditional 90 day fiance story do you know 90 day fiance yeah i mean i know 90 day fiance what's different here what do you mean what's different about it Well, it's different about your situation than 90 Day Fiance.
5:26I mean, there's nothing really different about it. So just fully mail-ordered bride. Well, it's not. I didn't. Well, I guess I did pay a dowry. But yeah. We talked about that one, too. But yeah. No. So, OK. It's like just like a white dude pays the family tribe some money, and then they get to marry their daughter, bring them over. Kind of. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of how the dowry works. Yeah, so I was messaging different girls there, and so I wrote a message, and I kind of had pretty much 100 % response rate from it. Yeah, I think they want to come here. Yeah, that's kind of what my message said, too.
6:07Oh, what did it say? It was like, let me see. What did it say, guys? It said, hey, nice to meet you. Would you like to come move to America with me? Opening message? Like, yeah, like, let's see. Would you like to move to America with me? It's getting lonely in my apartment with my cat. Oh, no. With just me and my cat. Oh, no. Oh, no, no. But, hey, look, like, I think it was the right thing to say because, like I said. I guess you were being honest. Well, yeah, I got 100 % response rate. Like, when you go. And they all said yes? Yeah, well, it started a conversation. How did you select the Nigerian princess versus.
6:47She's Cameroonian. Oh, Cameroonian. and I think the other one was Nigeria. How do you select this one versus the Brazil, the Russia, the this? Well, she was the one I got along with best, and I thought she was very beautiful, obviously. Have you met? Yeah, we have now. That's why I got all the clothes. You went there? Yeah, I went there. So you only met once? So it was like the before the 90-day series? Yeah, basically. Well, to start the process, you have to meet in person once. So you're not allowed to do the immigration forms until you've met in person. So, like, we had to meet in person. Like, we've been talking for two years.
7:23Two years, no meeting? Yeah, well, it was hard. How long are you in Cameroon? Two weeks. Two weeks in your... Maximum vacation time, yeah. Two weeks and we're closing it down. We're giving money to the village. Well, yeah, but I've been talking to her for two years. And, like, you know, we kind of decided, like... So, there's, like, more backstory. It's because I dated the Brazilian girl first because she was able to come to the U.S. Like, because Brazil's, like, on the approved countries list, right? so they can just get a travel visa and come over. So she came over. Wait, who did? A Brazilian?
7:54A Brazilian. So one other prospect came. One other 90-day fiancé prospect came? Yeah, another 90-day prospect came. So that went good and bad, but mostly probably bad in the end. I guess we just didn't get along. Do you have something for someone? Like an international kink or something? Like, is there, it's not, it's not, it's not a bad thing. I'm not, but the fact that the only people you were talking to is international was like, did you have a hard time dating nationally? Well, well, sort of, right? Like, that's what I was saying. Like when I'd go on like a Tinder and like. Yeah, but you could have got someone in Florida.
8:36Right. Well, yeah. Well, I guess the quality was higher. The quality was higher. Yeah. Okay. So it's like, you know. So accent. Well, no, it was just like they're nicer, prettier, smarter. But aren't you not afraid that – wait, why did the Brazilian one not work out? Sorry, we will get to the finances. This is very interesting. Because she's a fiery Brazilian. You guys fought? Yeah, a little bit. What did you fight over? Well, just all sorts of stuff, honestly. So she would drink a lot, like a little bit finances. because so she was here and she was staying with me and um you know i'd be like hey uh she was like um i'll let her borrow my car right and then so she would like need to get gas and i was like oh hey just come with me to costco i need to get gas too and she's like get really mad like that we couldn't just go to this other slightly closer gas station and then um you know i'd be like oh hey hey, maybe you shouldn't spend so much of your money on beer.
9:40Your percentage of money you're spending on beer is pretty high. So she got kind of mad about that. And then there's just all sorts of stuff, like the air conditioning. How much did you pay to the tribe? $1 ,000. $1 ,000? Yeah. I mean, pretty decent price. You bought her for$1 ,000. I don't know if I want to use that language for that continent. but yeah well uh yeah i mean it's a dowry it's a tradition if you look up cameroon bride price it's like a thing and like actually on 90 and on 90 day fiance right like the they had a cameroonian on there but it was a guy so then did you watch those shows the tutorial yeah actually when i was going over there because it was a guy from cameroon so i just wanted to see what was going on um but yeah so so then the american girl like had to be bought and then her parents were just like what you're buying our daughter.
10:37Yeah, so definitely a thing. How does it feel? And I know that, again, this apparently, this is a big part of the finances. This is this international thing, bringing her over. So I get it. This is the big part of the financial audit, and we're talking about it right now. But what's your thoughts on the fact that all those women, including the one that will be coming and the one that has come literally agree to that first message about just using you to come to the United States. Oh, well, I wouldn't say that. It was more like that. Your opening message was, do you want to come to the United States?
11:18Yeah, yeah. Well, because that's like the ultimate goal. They don't know you. That's like the ultimate goal. But they don't know you. The only thing they knew was this is a way to come to the United States. Yeah. So, okay, the Brazilian was able to come, right? So she was already looking to come. and then she didn't actually come for like, I guess like two or three months after we started talking. So it wasn't like, hey, come here. And then they should. No, I get it. But they're using you as the ticket to get here. How does this feel? Like, okay, what happens after five years? Okay, the alternative is me go there.
11:50And did I want to go live in Brazil or did I want to go live in Cameroon? Probably not. What happens after like five years of marriage and they can kind of, less consequences, kind of cut that ties? I mean, like I said, we get along. Like, you know, like I've had a like. But what if her mission is just to get here? That was your opening message. I'm not saying it 100%, but that was your opening message. Yeah, I mean, that's fair. So that's the first thing they knew. The first thing that started the conversation was this is their way to the United States. Yeah, I mean, I guess like that's a really negative way to look at it.
12:21But that was your opening message. No, hey, it's fair. You didn't bring it up once they knew you. Yeah, but the whole time like people told me like, oh, when you go over there, like, you know, Are you sure you've talked to her? Are you sure she's not catfishing you? Are you sure you're not going to get kidnapped? Unless she's not at least catfishing. There's this huge list of things that everyone told me to worry about. Oh, you're not going to get along. It's going to be different when you meet in person. But we've been talking for two years, and we've been doing video calls pretty much forever.
12:47I get that. That's not what I'm saying. No, we genuinely get along, and we smile when we talk to each other. Okay. I mean, look. I smile with my friends when I talk to them. Yeah, okay. And coworkers, and you. That doesn't mean we're getting married. I love me and you. I don't think it's a high concern right now. I think the probability is relatively low. That can happen with people even that live next door to you. No, of course. But your probability is higher. I mean, is it though? When you only talk to the people that responded yes to wanting to come to the United States from your opening message, I would suggest.
13:29So I haven't even asked what your job is. What do you do for a living? So I do software engineering. Oh, okay. Cool. So you make some money. What are you making? Well, so I guess all income sources right now, after taxes, after medical bills and all that. Yeah, sure. What hits the net? Sure. Yeah. Okay. 10 ,000. A month? Yeah. Yeah, dude. Absolutely killer. I know some foreign born princesses would love that. That is great. Yeah, but when I met her, I didn't make anywhere near that much money. What did you make? It was probably more like$3 ,500. A month? Yeah. $3 ,500 a month? Well, that's probably about$3 ,000 more a month than their annual GDP per capita.
14:17Yeah, she doesn't make a whole lot of money. What does she do? Is she going to come here and mooch? She does eyelashes and she does hair stuff. Right. Right, right, right. Well, eyelashes is pretty lucrative here. It's just not there as much. Yeah, but will she do it legally here? Yeah, once we get her a green card. Uh-huh. Cool. And what happens after three years of marriage and she has a green card? Because you pretty much got to be married like three years with a green card. Yeah. And then they can get divorced and then they can just be on a green card. You can always, like anyone you get married to can divorce you.
14:59It's the intention. I mean, that's probably why you're not married is because you're worried about that. I mean, I was too. And to be fair, I was too. You know, like I was worried about like that. No, I just specifically know this one guy here in Austin, Texas. I know, I don't know him personally. I actually know the girl. But he, they got married. She was from, she's, I think, China or Taiwan. I was just over there. And she got married, got the green card, two to three years after marriage. Done. Done. Out. Out. And now she's just trotting around with the green card. Yeah. Hey, I mean, it's definitely a possibility.
15:41But like I said, you know, I'll have to judge your character, right? And so I judge that. Well,$10 ,000 a month is great. Why the f*** are you so f***ed? it's just you and your cat as you admitted how could things be so bad it's not like you brought on someone and incorporated maybe experience a membership that backs what you're building with american express business platinum get two times membership rewards points per dollar on eligible purchases and key business categories as well as on each eligible purchase of five thousand dollars or more on up to two million dollars in eligible purchases per calendar year american Express Business Platinum.
16:20There's nothing like it. Terms apply. Learn more at AmericanExpress.com slash business dash platinum. Family and all this stuff. I didn't think it was that bad. It was mostly just like the trip and some medical expenses. And those medical expenses, you know, honestly, that's one of the reasons that medical expenses. I don't know. I see a ton of purchases on this first credit card alone. That has a high debt. I don't think this is Just medical. No. One, two, three, four, five, six. No, I don't see one medical expense here. How much did you put on credit card's mental expense? About$4 ,000. Okay, well, that's not even a fourth of your high interest debt.
16:59So I don't think that's the reason we're in this mess. Well, yeah. I mean, the trip and medical expenses combined is about$30 ,000. What trip? The trip to go get engaged. But there's so much spending on these credit cards right now, dude. You literally spent$2 ,216 more than you brought in this month. well yeah well because it's like a lot did you go to cameroon a lot of emergency fund spending why medical expenses and car expenses what are you dying every month what's happening does she know that we're dying no it happened in january and then the bills didn't come due until what happened uh well i i'm not actually they told me not to say so we don't get banned on youtube apparently apparently we can't mention specific yeah okay Okay, and when did you go to Cameroon?
17:49Two months later. Well, a month and a half after the medical. So March? Yeah, March. Okay, we're not looking at March's statements. We're probably looking at April's. Yeah, we're looking at April, so that doesn't fucking matter. I mean, you're looking at March's. I see April. April, April, April, April, April, April, April. April. Okay. I mean, I don't know. I sent, I mean, the, the April statement has March's payments usually, right? Like March is, uh, the one that comes up. April's minimum monthly payment maybe, but these are purchases being made in April. Okay. I mean, I sent you the statements April 15th.
18:29So like April wasn't even over yet. I mean, it wasn't over, but I am seeing some April in your spending in the last statements versus income. I think I've seen some screenshots too, the more recent cards. So there's... Either way, it's$2 ,000 more than you owed. Yeah, but like I said, a lot of it's emergency fund spending. Like, you know, when you have to do a car repair, when you have to do a medical expense. Okay, I had one large medical bill, but that still pushes you directly to the edge. Yeah, no. Well, yeah, I said I'm not going on a trip to Cameroon every month. I'm not getting engaged every month.
19:04Like, the trip cost me like$8 ,000 or something. I don't think the trip was on a statement, buddy.
19:11okay so in general what is going on because even if it was even if it was just that spending let's just say yeah if it was one month two months of bad spending i wouldn't have this much paperwork uh i mean what is going on because you're making too much right now i think i think i mean i think we'll just have to dive into it like i think you're i want to see self-assess why you think Well, I guess we did. You think it was medical and travel, but this wouldn't all be existing just for that. That explains a month. Yeah, and I mean, it's mostly, yeah, I mean, that's mostly when, because I wasn't making this income for that long of a time.
19:50Well, how long have you been making this job? Essentially since, you know, well, I mean. And why did you use an emergency fund to go to Cameroon anyway? Is that an emergency? Well, it kind of is. No. Well, okay, so like. What? What? How? In what world is that an emergency? Because we can't get married and we can't be together until I went there. Why didn't you save up for it? I did. That's what an emergency fund is. No, an emergency fund is for emergencies. And then a trip can be saved up for as a trip fund. Okay, so this is how I looked at it. It's like, look, the longer I delay it, right? You wouldn't have to.
20:29You make money, though. You could have budgeted in a trip. I assume Cameroon isn't the most expensive trip in the world. I mean, it was pretty expensive. What? Like I said, it cost about$8 ,000 all told to do like the – like I had to pay the dowry. Oh, well, that, but it's not the trip. Okay. I see what you're saying. Yes, you had to pay your tax to purchase a wife. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. And then I got an engagement ring. Oh, for f***s sake. Okay. Was that included in the$8 ,000? Probably. Okay. Maybe we didn't need that purchase. I mean, I don't know. It probably wasn't. Yeah. I'm including it in the$8 ,000.
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23:02So that's why, like, I didn't want to delay it even more. What's life going to look like financially when she's here? What does she want? What is happening? Is she going to be like a f***ing milker? A lot of the times on those shows, they are, you know, quite needy and they want to do a lot of things. They get a little upset if they don't get, like, allowances. It's very interesting. And it's also boring if they don't have, like, any kind of, like, work permits or anything. it's like what do they do with their time so like what are you gonna do well yeah yeah definitely well luckily i do work from home so we can like still oh i mean not 100 of the time but like a lot of the time i work from home so we can spend some time there um and that's one of the things i bought in advance was try to get like um plenty of like entertainment stuff set up so that like you know like to get like um season tickets and stuff to various things so that you guys agree on everything?
23:55Do you guys disagree on this money? I mean, no one agrees on everything. Money related here. Well, she doesn't really have like, you know, I guess their... What about her expectations of it though? Their financial situation over there is a little different. I know, but what are her American dream expectations? Remember, she responded to the opening message, do you want to live in America? Well, yeah. I mean, that's a good question. I guess we'd have to ask her exactly what her expectations are. You don't know? You talked to her for two years? I mean, I've talked to her, but like, you know, she hasn't expressed things.
24:27Yeah. I mean, well, she said that kind of stuff doesn't matter to her as long as she has like the base, because it's like where she's coming from. I know where she's coming from, but she wants to be here for a reason. Why does she want to, fine. How about this? Why does she want to be here before she knew you? I've been to her. I've been to where she lives there. It's not very nice. Why does she want to be here specifically before she knew you? Because she responded to the application to come to the U.S. essentially. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people there want to get out. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's like a, you know, they watch movies and stuff and they see like it's like nicer.
24:59Like, I mean, I don't know exactly, but that's kind of like my gist of it. And then, you know, I've seen where she lives, you know, and like I would just say most Americans wouldn't be willing to live there. Not that it was that bad overall, but like just in general, they probably wouldn't be down for it. And then, you know, like their power cuts out all the time, stuff like that, just like small annoyances. Yes. Okay. I mean, she doesn't even know. And so that's not the reason you're getting married. Okay, maybe it is. But, like, you know, I think when she comes over here, the main thing that's going to change financially is, you know, I spend a lot of money on food already.
25:38Not, like, eating out, but just, like, on food. Why? Well, to get good quality food, man. You know, like, you don't want to get that, like, gross, like, CAFO beef. You know, you want to get some nice grass-fed, dry-aged, you know. I don't know. You had more going out to eat than you had groceries. $600 going out to eat. Okay, that's not true. That's just not true. That is math. Yeah, but I didn't spend$600 going out to eat. Maybe you got some of my grocery purchases in there or something. I've only been out to eat four times this year, maybe five times. One of them was today. We had some burgers.
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26:20What is... Yeah, knockabout burgers. That was like the first time. That was one. We had some adding up a sweet treat that we were stopping and getting. Oh, it's$25. No, some adding up. We had about$198.63 of sweet treats. We'll go through the statements, buddy. I haven't gone through them. Someone else did. What are sweet treats? What's Carter County meat? Yeah, grass-fed beef. That's beef. So, okay. You spent more just on grass-fed beef specifically than you need to on groceries in an entire month that you could in a budget-friendly way. I could eat less. And just meal prepping in general. You spend more on just grass-fed beef than someone who's trying to budget and live a better life.
27:04What are your goals? What are you trying to do other than bring someone over? Even if I got Costco beef, that's 30 pounds of ground beef. So even if you bought 30 pounds of ground beef from Costco, So, I mean, I'd save probably like 33 % on it or something. Like I pay about$9 something a pound and I think you can get Costco ground beef. And that's after Texas,$9 something after Texas. So like Costco ground beef after Texas is like maybe$6 something. So I'm saving like$3 a pound. So look at how much meat are you eating? Dude, like over a pound a day. Okay. That's what I'm saying. And then there's more groceries on top of that.
27:45Yeah. I mean, I spend a lot of money. 148 at Trader Joe's and King Scoopers 139. Yeah, King Scoopers is groceries. Why? What's your water situation? You're not in Cameroon. Right. I know. But I get, well, okay. Yeah. But that's like three months worth of water. And that's more important than not going further into debt.
28:12Well, I mean. You don't have filtered water. I do. I use it for tea and coffee, but like the, that's like, um, it's like kind of mineral water. So it's like, works like a, okay. It's super hydrating and it like gives you magnesium. And let's just think about life where we are. Cause this is, this is what you're prioritizing. If that's where life is fine, you can prioritize it. Obviously we're going further in debt. So maybe we don't when we're trading our emergency fund, but what are your goals? What are we trying to do uh well okay so now that i'm getting married and she's gonna come over here um i guess like sort of the goal is to want to buy a house so okay now that's a good goal so you know like you're hammering around the debt over here and like oh yes you have 40 000 or 20 000 hours in bad debt okay but i haven't paid any interest i haven't paid any interest so is it bad debt well debt to income ratio they'll look at it um and they're on credit cards which will accrue interest but they haven't.
29:08Doesn't matter. They will. Okay. But you don't pay them off and you're not. Yeah. I'm trying to save up for a house. So yeah. Like, you know, that's kind of like - Save up how much? Well, you know, you got to get a down payment, right? And so like, I know you're like into real estate, like you mentioned all the time. So I'm hoping that like, you know, we're on a real estate bubble right now. And when all these foreclosures come up, that the market looks a little bit better and maybe on that down payment. It's a big hope. I mean, but there has been foreclosure insurance for the last four years.
29:44But what if that doesn't happen? What if rates drop soon? People are able to refinance onto more affordable things? It's not even rates. It's like the fact that - No, it's not even rates. But if people are near that level of foreclosure, if rates do drop, they might be able to refinance into a more affordable situation that allows them to get into something they can afford and not get foreclosure. Yeah, that's true. I don't know, banking on that, something that's happened a couple times in American history, it's like, good luck if we're waiting for that? A lot of the indicators are looking like 2008, right?
30:20It's looking like 2007 right now. I mean, okay, but like, okay, I really want to get a house because, okay, A, she's coming over. Yes, I get that. And then I was trying to start doing some chicken farming. And so I like. Okay, software engineer or farm, I don't know. Well, okay, so eggs are super expensive, right? And typically they're like, you know, not, okay. But you make a lot of money. They're tortured eggs, okay? But you're able to, you get grass-fed beef. If you know you can get better eggs. Yeah, but they're like ridiculously expensive. But you make great money. If you're giving me a hard time about the grass-fed beef, how do you feel about paying like a dollar an egg?
31:06It's less about that. It's more that you're going into an entire house purchase just for this. If you're able to do that in your current situation, then I don't care. Well, yeah. I mean, I did try to have the chicken live at the apartment, but then it got evicted. It got evicted? Yeah. What is a chicken getting evicted? dead um okay so i guess like there's this girl i was kind of dating um and was she american this time yeah she was well native american um but but uh so yeah um i mean it wasn't like we had dated before and then so i guess like i felt kind of hopeless because i like um i was on employment at the time.
31:52So I didn't think I could do this whole Cameroon thing, even though that's what I really wanted to do. Wait, you wanted to do this while you were dating the other one? Okay, what I'm saying is I've been wanting to do the Cameroon thing for like two years. Yeah, but you were dating this Native American girl while this was happening. Well, we weren't really talking so much. Does Miss Cameroon know this? Yeah, she does. She's okay with it? Yeah, I mean, she dated some people. You just needed some local company as you were waiting for the big migration. Sort of. Okay. But it was more like we were more friends than we were like, it's serious.
32:27Oh, they're saying the Brazilian was also an overlap. Yeah. Well, yeah, the Brazilian too. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Because we were just talking. Well, you know, there's like no. Yeah. Anyway. Go on. Chicken eviction. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess she got kind of mad because like I said, it was more like a friend thing. like for me at that point like we weren't really like um you know hooking up a whole lot and then so she was like kind of mad about that and they weren't fucked yeah okay well probably because you know i had my heart in other places but um yeah so anyway hey pookie our memorial day sale is happening right now and it's your shot to grab some of the tools you need to own your financial future.
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35:02Right, okay. But if it was - The chicken like that? I thought you were all about moral space for the chicken to run. Well, it's a lot more space than like, even like those, even the open pasture chickens, like they put them like, okay. Yeah, yeah, but it's still a balcony though. Yeah. It's just a yard. Yeah, I took it for walks. Uh-huh. You take your dog for walks. Are you torturing your dog by letting it live inside? No, but I don't keep it on a balcony. so the chicken police come and they're like oh this is like a safe habitable like you know it's warm area you have a heater for the chicken it's like a you know safe environment it's like a happy chicken and then so then like three days later then the apartment complex sent me a letter fair enough and they were like hey you know this chicken violates our pet policy you have 24 hours to get rid of it so then i had to find like a different home for the chicken and so it kind of i fostered at a friend's house.
36:00Maybe one of the eating out things you have down for me is a kombucha subscription I have. That's probably in the subscriptions though. In the kombucha network, there was someone that I was able to... In the kombucha network, okay. What do you think there are in the world of finances? Zero to 10, zero being the worst, 10 being the best. I mean, probably four.
36:28Try for it.
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37:25All right, guy. Well, so do you want to know the chicken's name? Okay. It's Harriet Potter, the chick that lived. Because I tried to hatch a bunch of chickens and only one survived. Stop. You have a Chase Freedom card. I love the Chase Freedom card. It's a classic. Is this the OG freedom? I don't know, dude. You tell me. Okay, I mean, I have three Chase. The man has found love. He is giggly. I have three. $6 ,500. Okay, that's the unlimited. $85.77 with a minimum monthly payment of, I can't tell. Yeah, I don't know. I've never made a minimum monthly payment. What is the minimum monthly payment?
38:09Honestly, I don't know. It's usually probably like$40. Okay,$40 minimum monthly payment. And on here, pending land's end, we're PayPal-ing, PayPal-ing, PayPal-ing, PayPal-ing. Oh, educational, access.com. That one's blacked out. Carid.com? Carid.com? Oh, it's Car Parts. Summit, Rock Auto. Car Parts. What the fuck is going on with your car? What are you doing? So that was oil filters, wiper blades, air filters. You had to do it all at once? Yeah. In a month, you couldn't afford it? But it's got introductory interest. so it's like it doesn't have to be paid right away. Yeah, but it's still spending that could have gone towards other things.
38:56Like not draining our emergency fund and cash flowing our trip to Cameroon. Right, but I'm going to need all that stuff anyway. I know, but you didn't have to do it that time. They had a PayPal promotion. When does the interest-free period end? Like in a few weeks. Yeah, but I'm getting paid. you're getting paid you also have bills yeah that's what yeah good luck okay Birkin Brands Birkin Brands oh that's coffee oh it's okay well it's like coffee beans parts geek blacked out blacked out is that HBO Max or is that yeah it's three dollars okay Birk Brands Mountain Star Knockout Burgers Denver's Art Complex Land's End is that is Land's End also?
39:52No, that's close. I bought them in November but the product wasn't available. In likely miscellaneous bullshit and we'll go through everything. We're seeing about almost $1 ,000 of purchases in miscellaneous bullshit. I mean, are you calling necessary car parts? Denver Arts Complex, Bomba Socks, Land's End, And Denver Center, Colorado Symphony, event tickets, Chamber Orchestra, Alibaba, and Staples. That added up to about$1 ,000. Yeah, those were the season tickets I was mentioning. Yeah, that's all miscellaneous bullshit. Yeah, that's fair. That is not car parts. That is$1 ,000. That is payoff debt before interest accrues.
40:34That is giving to the village. $1 ,000 goes a long way. No, that's fair, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but like I said, this is when they're doing the season tickets, so I figure it was better to get them now. Yeah, but you spent it in a month where you spent$2 ,500 more than you made. Yeah, but... And interest accrues in a couple of weeks. Okay, we have another freedom card. Yeah, that one shouldn't have anything on it, though. I used to think life insurance was one of those someday things. Like, I'll get to it someday after I organize my receipts, fix my car, figure out what my HSA actually does.
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44:03Which is what you did last month, by the way. Right, because it's an interest-free period. Yes, but how long does it take to pay off? Well, there is a reason to pay more towards it. The amount that is necessary without purchasing that pays it off before the interest agrees. Wouldn't it make more sense to put that in my high-yield savings account and earn interest on the money? I guess. You're finessing a couple dollars there and you're on this show where you, like many other people, look what you've done. A couple dollars versus a mistake of losing$50 in interest like that in one month. Yeah, that's fair.
44:34But that's why I'm doing it. I get it, but the finesse. There are so many people that have come on the show that try to finesse, and I don't want you to end up like that. You were so close. How long does it take to pay off? Minimums only. What do you think? What do you think? Well, 108 times, so probably like four years. 14 years. 14, there you go. Because interest will kick in. Well, see, that minimum monthly payment is a little skewed. It's not actually 108. That's because, okay, there's like a problem with my automatic payment. And what? Because I'm automatically, well, Chase, it's a complicated story.
45:12But like the point is it's coming out of my savings account to automatically pay it. But then when Chase runs that, they run it as a checking account. And then it gets denied. So then I have to do, I end up having to do a manual payment for the Chase cards. so like that it's like a$29 minimum monthly payment plus like a fee for being late that's why it's so long there is a late fee 14 years is gonna take a lot longer when it goes with that and I get it it was a situation outside of your control but this is what happens we try to finesse we get complicated we spread all our shit too far then all of a sudden uh oh we're out in control of this account we lose our ability to fully manage things late fee hits and there's the Denver Art Complex, King Scoopers, Max.
46:01Yeah. Yeah. The balance for this interest rate would have ended a couple weeks ago. Yeah, it did, but then the payment's not due for a month after that. Ooh, sketchy world, man. That's putting yourself in a scary situation when you have a wife coming. Well, that's how a normal credit card payment works, right? I know, but you're pushing yourself to the edge. And you always have, like, what if a medical thing comes up and you can't just pay it off? I don't even think you can just pay it off with the way you do it, with the way you live life. But, I mean, the fact is, what if something else does pop up?
46:38You don't take that into account. Now you've drained your emergency fund to go to Cameroon. I guess if there was a serious medical bill, but my out-of-pocket maximum is only$8 ,000, and I've paid$4 ,000. so like absolute maximum I could pay maybe$4 ,000 more. There's so many more emergencies. A car breaks down. It did. It did break down. There you go. That's why I'm buying car parts. That's why they're an emergency because they're unpredictable. And you put yourself in a risky situation with leading this entire huge balance that's about to hit interest rate. The$6 ,585 about to hit interest rate.
47:17You're okay with that? I mean especially with a wife coming and you want to get a house you'd get a house without an emergency fund and then all of a sudden a big expense would happen and you wouldn't be able to cover it that is kind of a worry that's why I don't have a house and why I'm renting because the loss of freedom and then the loss what happens if you have to do repairs insurance rates are going up that kind of thing So it's just kind of like a, it seems scary to do the house. But I mean. Do you want to then? I do. Yeah, I do. Because like I said, you know, I want to like have like the chickens and the goats and the sheeps.
48:04I'm like, you know, just be able to do what we can with the house. Like, you know, make some of our own decisions. Like, you know, you can't like, you know, tear the house up, I guess, if landlords in charge. And then in the situation where you're going and, of course, spending more than you made on that monthly basis, it's the prioritization of things. I mean, you're getting, again, all the car parts, we talked about that. But then also, it's like all that meat. The water is like stockpiling over the course of a few months, even though you could have spread that over a few months. What are you prepping for?
48:38I mean, I'm not necessarily prepping. It's just like I'm at the store. And then, you know, so I'll buy like four boxes of water or I'll buy four jars of ghee or something instead of just one. But in months where you cannot afford it, you have to drain an emergency if you're going to leave. Credit card bill comes due with interest hitting very soon. Because it was interest-free for that month, it's more like I had two months to pay it. So I was looking at it as a payment for the next month. I get it. But again, look at what happens when we try to finesse everything. Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, it can happen.
49:17It's not a horrible mindset if we do it right. I don't know. You seem like you're spreading things all over the place. I mean, I'm trying to do it right. Well, interest is about to hit like right now, and I don't see$6 ,000,$7 ,000,$8 ,000,$9 ,000,$10 ,250 laying around. You know, like I do save some money in some places. Like, you know, I spend a lot of money on milk because I make my own yogurt. But like milk's a lot. Make your own yogurt? Yeah. Oh, she'll feel right at home. Yeah, well, the yogurt is a lot less expensive when you make it yourself. I guess. Well, because I'm making like... You want to play the real finesse game?
49:58The time you're spending making yogurt, you can probably pick up a contracting little thing for software engineering on Fiverr or something. Oh, well, it's super fast to make yogurt. I'm just saying. You literally just pour milk in a jar. I don't care. It's fine. You should make your own yogurt. I'm okay. It makes me sh**. Not only do I make yogurt, I make sourdough too sometimes. I'm into the fermented stuff. Sure. So I made kimchi, sourdough. Okay. Okay, yeah. I'm not against that. And then I guess one of the bad purchases I did, I mean, it was like, yeah, so I bought a bunch of computer parts.
50:37because it sort of started when... So I broke my computer because I was making sourdough in the winter and then the computer's warm. So then I set the sourdough on top of the computer. Oh, my f***. And then it overflowed. Or actually, I guess it was yogurt that did it. So now I have like four or five computers. Sell them! Pay off debt! I've been trying. Then you're overpriced. Yeah, maybe. I mean, they're not priced at it. If no one's buying them, they're overpriced. The market says they're overpriced. Okay, what would you say? What? I mean, it's like a 40-70 super. Dude, I don't fucking know.
51:16It's what people would buy it for. If people aren't buying it, it's overpriced. I don't think it's that overpriced. Well, no one's buying it. It's not you. The other people are saying it is. You don't get to determine. Okay, yeah. Or maybe I'm just not selling in the right place. Maybe Craigslist isn't a good place to sell anymore. You haven't tried Facebook Marketplace? I don't have a Facebook account. make a Facebook account to sell them and then delete it. I don't know. Okay. I don't think the Zuck will care that much. Okay, look, this is a car, right? Wait. No, what is this? What has the$3 ,283 balance?
51:53This is what happens when people just send screenshots instead of statements because I don't know what the... What are they looking at? That is... Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door. expertly cleaned and folded so you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a whole new version of you like tea time you or this tea time you or even this tea time you said you hear about dave or even tea time tea time tea time you so update on dave it's up to you we'll take the laundry rinse it's time to be great Oh, that's, yeah, that's a Sapphire chase card.
52:36Okay, so Sapphire. That was like a car expense. That was my car repair. That$3 ,000 was a car repair. What happened? So my clutch went out. What's your minimum monthly on this? Minimum monthly. I mean, I see activity since last statement. Of course, you didn't send us the entire statement. Why would you? Korean restaurant. The statement hadn't come out yet. I got the card. In April, Korean restaurant, Pine Creek. Yeah, that's my friend's birthday. Japanese domestic auto. There's that one. Yeah, that was my friend's birthday, and then the car payment. Okay. How much is this car worth? Well, it's probably not worth as much, but it's probably still worth like$16 ,000 or$17 ,000.
53:17Okay. Okay, then that's not horrible. It's a lot of money to put into it, and I get it while all this other stuff is coming up. But again, what if that happens right before credit card balance is about to accrue interest? Yeah, then we already know that that's going. It kind of did happen. So we ran your car based on all the details you gave us, and we're given a private sale value of$9 ,900. That would be if it was an automatic, but it's a manual transmission. So it's like more of a – We searched your VIN, though. Yeah, but I think it's because the manual transmission is super rare. I don't know.
53:48We searched your VIN. It knows what car you have. Okay. It kind of sounds like your GPUs where you – I mean, look, if you go look up on CarTrader right now, Acura TL 2013 manual transmission, you won't be able to - So it's going to be like your GPU where you put it at a price you think and then no one ever buys it. No, I'm saying the only ones listed are listed at$17 ,000. If you go buy an automatic, it'll be listed at$9 ,000. I don't know. We search your VIN. I'm going to go off of the VIN. Okay, if you say so. Not off of looking at what a souped up car might have or something. It's not a souped up car.
54:22I don't know. Your VIN. though says 9 ,000. What, right? I mean, I don't know how you're searching it. I'm just telling you. Kelly Blue Book. Okay, yeah. I mean, I don't know how Kelly Blue Book gets their numbers. There's only five for sale at any time in the country, really. And then they're all about 15 ,000. Okay, it's not the biggest deal. I don't really care. But that's what we got. Okay, what's the minimum monthly payment on this? I don't know. What do you think the minimum monthly payment is? Probably like$40. It's usually like about 1%, right? Okay, when does the interest hit on this?
55:00I'm assuming this is your interest-free. No, this one's not interest-free. This one, I put it on there because it was like an expense I had to pay. And then there was like a... Why don't you put it on one of your interest-free cards? Okay, because there's like the first$5 ,000 spend. You get$1 ,000 back. and then there's an additional 0.25 multiplier if you buy a plane ticket. And then I'm going to need to buy Cassie an expensive plane ticket. Sorry, I'm going to need to buy my fiance an expensive plane ticket. So this essentially will cover the plane ticket. And then why would that interest hit?
55:38Yeah, if I don't pay it, it will. Yeah. This is a lot of cards have to pay the full balance off all at once. Right now we're adding 6 plus 3 plus 3. Well, really, 6 plus 4 plus 3. You make$10 ,000 a month. Yeah, and my emergency fund. You're going to use an emergency fund? So really, you've just kicked the can down the road and really all your savings is really going to it at the end? So really, the savings were nothing. Well, yeah, but they were earning interest. What APY? Like$4.35. Okay, so how much did you get? A couple hundred bucks? Yeah, probably like 150. And that's if you do this all right.
56:24All right. Wells Fargo. So, here we have 4 ,000 hours of purchases. You paid off the last balance. And some medical expenses. Oh. No, and two-thing foods. You got some food as well. I think it was Costco. Yeah. Oh, there's also Alipay. Oh, that was a fraud. Randy's High Country, Towing. Yeah, that's car emergency. Cater Country, Meat. Yeah, we know that. Lockbox? Oh, that was the immigration fee. Okay, so this was not all medical. A lot of this stuff was the stuff we were choosing to do right now. And maybe we don't do the medicals all in at the same time. I didn't really have a choice. No, the medical you can do, not all that stuff at the same time.
57:20Yes, you did. Car repair, I get it. Well, yeah, I got to get my targe code, and then the other one was immigration fee. I know, but we could have maybe delayed a month when you had the money. But then it would delay her getting here a month. I get it. I get it. It's just putting yourself in a financially scary position. I mean, you know, like, doesn't Dave Ramsey say stuff like, spend your money on people and experiences. He doesn't say spend$2 ,500 more than you make in a month. He doesn't say go into a credit card. Why the fuck are you bringing up Dave Ramsey? He would never recommend the little finessing thing you're doing.
57:54He wouldn't even let you look at a credit card. I'm talking about the immigration expense. It doesn't matter. If you're going to bring up one part, you have to believe the... Well, I don't believe in the religious part, for sure. Well, either way, it doesn't matter. It's like... Okay, yeah. You're finessing. He wouldn't recommend any of this. Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah. He doesn't like credit cards. I got a lot of them. That's for sure. What if you get laid off, man? Yeah, I mean, I'm worried about it. I mean, that's definitely, that's probably the biggest worry. Like, out of all the... Well, that's why you have a fully funded emergency fund.
58:25But again, you're saying you're using your emergency fund to take care of all this, which, by the way, is not a learned, it's not a good learning lesson. Because with that, you are essentially allowing yourself to spend more money, bailing yourself out. then you have to cut back, build a fully funded emergency fund, then you're allowed to live a crazy life and put your emergency fund towards it. You're just you're not learning the behavior that you into a situation that you can't afford other than bailing yourself out. And then what happens when you get laid off? If you get laid off, and hopefully you don't, but the tech market's a little interesting right now.
58:59And the rise of AI, who even knows? What kind of software engineering do you do? I'm not at liberty to disclose that. It doesn't have to be the job. You can't say like what kind? I guess like C++. I mean, is that what you're looking for? Okay. I don't know. So yes, AI could come for you, essentially. Yeah. That's a worrying position. Yeah, it's definitely worrying. And so I guess that's like sort of a question I have, like an educational question I have. So let's say you do have your emergency fund, right? And I'm not saying this applies to me, okay? I'm just saying hypothetically, okay? So let's say you have your emergency fund fully funded, right?
59:45But then an emergency happens, right? So then you use your emergency fund to pay. For an actual emergency? Sure. I don't think we agree on what an emergency is, but yes. Okay. But then at that point, right, your emergency fund is no longer fully funded. Yeah. You'd agree with that? Then, yep, you scrap down to zero and you build it all the way back up again. Right, right. You're neither scrapping down to zero nor maintaining an emergency fund. You're draining an emergency fund and not scrapping down to zero to build it back up. So you know the answer to it and you're not doing it. Oh, so I should scrap down to zero.
1:00:21Like just get rid of all of it. Of course. It's an emergency not to have an emergency fund. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I can see that. An emergency fund keeps you alive for six months if you get laid off. Gives you options to go and find other jobs. and unemployment help because you've been paying into that system as well. I'm not saying you're going to get laid off. Hopefully not. Hopefully you're very talented. In the software engineer scale, you're making money. It's fine. So I don't know where you stand, but you're living life on the edge, man. And that makes me nervous, especially since someone else is putting their life.
1:00:57They're fully jumping. They're jumping into the deep end. Yeah, no, you're right about that. It was just like the timing was like really kind of, it's like, hey, let's do, you know, like the trip and then the medical thing kind of happened at the same time. And then as soon as I got back from the trip, the car thing happened. Yeah, and that's welcome to emergencies. Maybe you shouldn't use an emergency fund for a fucking vacation. Well. If we're being honest, if we're being literal. And also, at the same time, your emergency fund was to cover you. When she comes here, that's a double person, an extra mouth to feed.
1:01:31You know, extra things. Maybe you put her, I don't know if you can get her on your insurance. I don't know. But whatever ends up being done. Well, yeah. I mean, you'll be married. I don't know. So like it won't be able to cover her emergencies and you would be her emergency fund. Right. Yeah. So you're putting it at risk for her for selfish desires. So you can prep. So you can do all this stuff. So you can have that miscellaneous bull. A thousand dollars. Even in a month. But you had some emergencies with which I vibe with. The car one. the medical can't do anything about that got it did not go need to go to cameroon that exact month but whatever you did but either way while all that stuff is happening you still did a thousand dollars of miscellaneous but did not need to do your choice all well what is this again in six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen thirteen thousand seven hundred fifty dollars of interest free that's about to be very interesty debt is about to slam this is a fun one i get to get you free money and then i get to get myself free money it's a pure win-win for both of us what do you have to do sign up for a sofi high yield savings account and get a welcome bonus of 300 sign up for acorns using my link and get 20 instead of the usual five dollars finally sign up for silo and earn up to five thousand dollars in cash back on your own stocks.
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1:03:38So, like, good luck. The minimum payment is$45 on this. I don't know how you're making all these payments. A double? You have to make a payment that is worth double your net income on a monthly basis. I don't know. math's not adding up for me math's not adding up for me and the visa thing I get it I want you to have I want you to have the person you love here I do being able to take care of her is also equally as important and you're f***ing potentially f***ing her with draining her emergency fund that is also going to need to be here and I'm being told I mean you bought your ski passes on here you got$500 snowboarding boots new bindings for$300.
1:04:25You go golfing all the time and you spend$70 on that. It's just like, you got a massive suit collection that you're spending money on, graphic novels, CD collection for some reason. It's just like, it's just endless, buddy. It's just endless. Oh, but you know, I do hate Spotify. So that's kind of why. Yeah, I mean, I guess I just was like... Okay, so I started listening to classical music and then... I guess... Listen to fucking NPR then. Well, okay, yeah, but all I'm saying is like I didn't want to pirate it. You've had fees this year, by the way. It's a$5 international purchase fee. It was very accidental.
1:05:12Well, everything's accidental to you when you do something wrong. Well, I didn't know it was an international purchase. You're going to accidentally do things wrong, honestly. I would have used different cards. Keep going. Classical music. Yeah, so classical music. Yeah, so it's harder to download that, I guess, illegally. And I guess that's technically illegal. So I just bought a bunch of$2 CDs to kind of build up a classical music collection. And then I ripped it into flak files and put it in my player. You live in 2005. Well, they didn't have flak players back then. You live in 2009. Yeah, that's more like it.
1:05:47I don't know, man. I mean, you can use the Fizz card, so at least you can only spend what's in your checking account. She'll need it, so I'll also put you guys through couples therapy through Sondermine when you guys get here, three free sessions. She'll need it when she realizes there's no way to keep her safe, and when she's ready to jump into the job market, I'll gift her a course career certification. Yeah, that would be actually pretty helpful. Yeah, that'll be good. City double cash. Does he send a statement? No. He sends a picture. Well, I couldn't send a statement because for the Sapphire and the Citi Custom Cash, I had just opened them.
1:06:23They were brand new cards. So no stake. Are these screenshots of within there? So Citi Double Cash? Yeah, that's the Citi, yeah. Okay. Yes, sir. What's the minimum monthly payment? Don't give me your normal answer. I'm assuming it's probably, I think it's$40. I think it's$40. They're always like$40 for some reason. Well, they want to squeeze as much interest out of you as they can. $788.20 yeah this is where we have the symphony we went to the center UCCS presence box
1:07:00it's$182 I know what it is it's like tickets to the theater oh okay and then the symphony was$396 that's the season yeah that's the season okay I like classical music too I get it you just I mean you're in a situation you're living a$150 ,000 a month lifestyle at$110 ,000 net a month. Really overspending. Access, ticket resale, chamber order. When you walk into a Burlington, you're walking into amazing prices and great gifts. That's main character energy. Because at Burlington, the holiday savings aren't the only things turning heads. Discover quality finds and perfect presents for everyone on your list, even those who are hard to shop for.
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1:08:01Orchestra. Yeah, and those are all for like next year. This is Destroy Our Lives for the Arts card, I guess. When does the interest start on this card? It's a new card. Oh, it's a 15-month away. Yeah, so 15 from now? Yeah, from now. But yeah, what kind of upset me about that one, it's like I put all those on there because they're supposed to be like 5 % cash back on live orchestra performance. It literally says orchestra. Really? Okay. Yeah, and as you see, they'll say orchestra, but they don't show up as orchestra. So I was kind of just like super disappointed. They counted as charitable donations.
1:08:37So you just got two? I just got one. Count it as charitable donations? Count it as charitable donations instead of a... Claim that. Well, I'd have to itemize my donations, too. It wouldn't. It gets brutal. Probably wouldn't make sense. Okay. Capital One Quicksilver. You have so many cards, man. What kind of finessing are you trying to do? Well, I was just trying to have, like, you know, get the 5 % back on... You try to get every cash back thing you can, every intro, whatever. Yeah, the bank's got mad at me. $841.04. Minimum monthly payment,$25. It's getting hot. This takes five years to pay off.
1:09:22Minimum monthly payment only,$853. Again, you got paid off the previous. What was the previous? $0, so not really. But there's a hotel. Wait. Yeah, this is a fuck on my travel. Oh, so another accident. Yeah. You can't wait until you guys start having intercourse.
1:09:46Accidents work real well for you. Then you got to have an emergency fund for those. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean. Keep going. What's your little accident? We got Air France. We got Relay. We got Air France. I guess you can guess. I guess you can guess. No, no, I don't know. The wrong ticket? You fucking bought to Zimbabwe? No, I mean, I missed the flight. I missed the flight. And then, yeah, I had to rebook it. And now you're going to miss your payments before your interest hits.
1:10:16You're predictable. That's the car I should have used on that international purchase because it has no international fee. So that's why I used it for the zones because they were in France. So I had to get a hotel and I had to redo the ticket. See, the real issue with that one is the ticket. That's one thing. But man, they overweighed my bag. So my carry-on bag, I was already through security and everything. And then they made me go back through and pay$300 for it. That sucks. I mean, I don't know. I should have just thrown the books away. It's life things. It's the things you expect and nothing to happen.
1:10:59And then life things happens. and then you're like, oh, I don't have to pay this extra shit. It always happens and it's going to happen. And then you delay all these things that you're going to have to pay$20 ,000 right now. It's like, look what happens, man. Okay, it's 0 % until... It's not. I don't see a date. Oh, it's not 0%. No. Okay, big balance coming. $841.04 on that. Add that onto the tally. Add that onto the tally. Okay. More. Let's keep going. It just keeps going, man. U.S. Bank, what? That was the one where they give you the global entry free. So that's why I got that card. Because I was doing a global entry.
1:11:47Oh. Yeah, I was coming in. Okay. Now to payment,$40. You owe$235. I mean it only has a limit of$500 So it's not like you can spend much on here anyway I mean you spent$593 But you put a little bit more towards it Than the minimum Yeah you had to spend$500 to get the So the credit line To get the whatever $200 reward or whatever Arts complex, Uber trip, Uber trip A little bit of dental Got some booking hotel Uber, Uber, Uber Uber, that's Uber. UPS, Walgreens, Radiology. Yeah, that makes sense. ER, yeah. Sitting at 21.24 % interest rate on this one. Yeah, that's pretty low, actually. It's not low.
1:12:36For a credit card. Yeah, compared to like 30 % credit cards, but it's not low. I'm shocked it's only 21, to be honest with you. Okay, are we celebrating? No, I'm just saying, I'm surprised. I feel like they're mostly like 28, 29, 30. Okay. U.S. Bank. This one we're not going to put in the deck. It's only$40, and it's a$40 minute payment. But you did purchase 204. What could that money have gone to instead? Well, that's my utilities card. So that goes to electricity and internet. Yeah, Comcast. Utilities.
1:13:14Is that all your debt? Yeah. Oh, on your car? No, I don't know. That's good. Is that all your debt? Yeah 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 So all the credit cards that are about to come due Is$20 ,217.92 Or else interest will start accruing And all the finessing we've done Will go to F*** you It's only two months worth of Pay Do you not have rent? Do you not have utilities? Do you not have food? We know you have food Do you not have extra costs? The food's on there. I mean, the food's on there. You have future food to get probably. I bet you're going to keep eating. But I bought it in advance. How many months?
1:13:59I mean, at least one. Then you're probably going to go buy five for next month. Yeah. That's funny. Interesting about this sort of occurring, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, at a certain point, you eat all the food. But I do have like food. And you will have to spend money. Money you do not have because two months gross. Gross is what is needed to pay off this debt and a little more. What is it? Staple, staple, scoopers, scoopers, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super. I mean, I want to tell you the reason, but you're going to like fry. What? Okay, so they had like a promotion.
1:14:37Super, super, super, super. Look, look, look. Walmart super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super, super. You have f***ing credit cards that are about to f***ing accrue interest. Super, super, super, super. Can I get it? Okay. So that was like, okay. So they had this promotion. You do every promotion you can find. Okay. So they had this. Well, no, it's just with the bank. So like if you make a purchase on your credit card,
1:15:11they'll round up the difference. So I was essentially buying one can of cat food at a time to get the most roundup. And then actually on that Staples purchase... Oh, you sound like a couponer. Yeah, it took way too much time. And then they got mad and told me it was a suspicious activity. But so on the Staples one, I actually made money on that purchase. because it was like... How much? Like$2? Like 40 cents. But no, it was like a 30 cent purchase, but they gave me 70 cents. Oh, on that purchase. What did you make across this whole thing? Oh, I mean, I don't know. Probably like 25 bucks or something.
1:15:54But yeah, it's funny. It was kind of an infinite money glitch. If you spend 30 cents and they give you 70,
1:16:03that's probably why they said it was suspicious activity. Yeah. But, like, hey, a real infinite money glitch there. Okay. $5 in this account. Capital one. It's curious. $500 went in,$500 went out. Yeah, well, so they had a promotion. Oh, my gosh, dude. They give you$300 if you do two direct deposits in there. You make$110. I'm not saying don't be frugal and do all these things. Your time could be better spent doing something else, especially in the world of what you do for a living. You could totally pick up some random little side projects. Yeah. And make more than you are. The little bit of money you're spending on all this finessing.
1:16:54I get it's fun. I get it's fun. I mean, I am working that second job at night. So, you know. What? Yeah, that's why my income is so high. Oh, so that's two. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Well, damn, I thought that was one. So you definitely are on the chopping box for layoffs, then, with what you're probably making in your software engineering job. I mean, we're about to hire some engineers for our apps. Shoot me an email if you want to, but, I mean, we're paying just the basic people, what you make for both years combined.
1:17:30Oh, 52 cents in this one. $4 ,774 came in,$80 debit card withdrawal, and then$4 ,705 went out. What are we doing? It's just going all over the place, the different Schwab checkings and stuff. Yeah, it was because I was going to that trip to Cameroon. So these accounts all had international fees. So I got in a Schwab account that didn't have international fees. Okay. That actually. Ford Blue Cruise hands-free highway driving takes the work out of being behind the wheel allowing you to relax and reconnect while also staying in control. Enjoy the drive in Blue Cruise enabled vehicles like the F-150, Explorer and Mustang Mach-E.
1:18:22Available feature on equipped vehicles. Terms apply. Does not replace safe driving. See Ford.com slash Blue Cruise for more details. Makes sense. That's a good finesse. That probably was worth the time investing$127. That's the Schwab account. Okay. Okay, so here's the title. So$13 ,000 is your six-month emergency fund. I doubt it. It's not enough to live off of six months for you. What's your rent? Well, rent and utilities,$2 ,100. Okay, this is not enough for us. This is not a six-month emergency fund. Right, I know And it's going to be all gone to pay all these things Which is f***ing, those are not emergencies What you have done is a disaster And it's not You're not doing this right, okay The finessing works if you pay it off And you can make the difference and all that stuff You're having to use your emergency fund To take care of it, that does not count That is not finessing, that is you putting yourself In a dangerous position That is not good finances Simply put, I need to be clear because you feel like you're doing this right.
1:19:29You're not. You're destroying it. I know this wasn't like crazy finances type of episode, but you're still f***ing yourself. And there's going to be people out there that are related to this because they're thinking they're finessing. You're draining your emergency fund. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I am draining my emergency fund. But that's because I had some emergencies. No, you f***. You're draining the emergency fund to pay off your credit card, which at least a thousand just this last month alone went to miscellaneous. Some went going out to eat. It wasn't crazy amount. And it's not just the emergencies.
1:20:09You did not need to pre-buy all the water and all this bullshit. You did not need all the computers back then. You didn't. You could sell at a reasonable price now and try to pay for things. You did not need to pre-order all those filters and whatever. You did not need to go to Cameroon right then at that moment. I know what you want to do. It's not about wants. I'm talking about need, emergencies, or needs. I mean, I could have waited indefinitely, and she could never get allowed to come over here. I didn't say wait a definite knee. I did not say wait a definitely. But maybe not the same month that all these bills are due and emergencies are hitting.
1:20:45Yeah, but okay. I didn't know. Okay, but I planned the trip before any of those emergencies happened. so I didn't know it was going to be the same month so that's like kind of how I got like in that situation it's like you know I planned the trip, set it up and like right at the same time the medical thing happened and then as soon as I got back from the trip the car thing happened so it was just like rough time right but I mean I'm saying I didn't plan it some money going out to eat some other things as well you still spent money What's that orange section? The going out to eat, which is a little higher because the beef was put in there, but it was still a couple hundred dollars going out to eat.
1:21:30Oh, that big orange on the side? No. Large purchases, general large purchases that are a little harder to categorize. Okay. That is ATM, which raw, airlines ticket, tax payment. Tax payment? Oh, yeah, how to pay taxes. But I paid them. I mean. Yeah, but again, you're doing this all at the same time. You're not willing to space. You can't space the emergency fund or taxes. You can space the miscellaneous bullshit, which is just as much as the taxes. PayPal out$2 ,511. Hotel booking. K1 visa application fee and international travel out. So it's a big, big chunk. $5 ,827 for all that. The miscellaneous bullshit.
1:22:09A little bit on the subscription side. Medical health care, that was a big chunk, obviously. Unknown shopping, very small. It's typically Amazon, Walmart. You don't really have that kind of stuff. Necessary food, we got that. transportation and then housing. Well, the good news is a lot of those purchases aren't going to be recurring. Yeah, but now you have$20 ,000 right now, and you only have$12 ,000 for your emergency fund, so you still need to basically put all of your net income towards it to pay it off for a month. Buddy, this does not go the way you thought this was going to go.
1:22:44You tried to finesse, push yourself way too close to the edge.
1:22:56That's a lot of 20 cent. Yes. 1 ,300 in retirement. Well, you're definitely not going to be a 4 out of 10 if this is your entire retirement. I thought that would be the one thing that would carry you. There is an IRA, too. It's almost. $6 ,000, you're still dramatically behind for your age. Yeah, well, I know. Dramatically behind for your age. And you have to catch up to an emergency fund again. So, I don't know. Let's get your budget. $10 ,000 is the income I mean some time has passed So I have gotten paid A few times I've gotten paid What? I've gotten paid$10 ,000 Since maybe more What are you saying?
1:23:36I've been accruing income this whole time Yes I assume you're making money I didn't say you weren't making money a month ago Well I know but I'm saying a month Has happened so I've made a month worth of income And you had a month worth of expenses. Yeah, yeah. But, okay, but I pre-bought a lot of these. Okay, yeah. You pre-bought, but you're a pre-buyer, which means you're still going to pre-buy. And again, emergencies happen. You don't have that. Debt payments, if we just did our minimum, is$259. What's your rent and utilities all combined? 21. Is that including the internet? Yes. Phone bill?
1:24:14No, none. Okay, I'll do helium if you need it. Okay, gas, room, room, drive, drive. Like 150. Car insurance? Like 75. Okay, you can do, I'll give you$400 for groceries. It's higher than normal, but still just meal prep, meal prep, meal prep. Try to live on the cheap until you get an emergency fund because it is an emergency not to have a fully funded emergency fund. Look at what's happened to your life. $100 for TP fund, anything else you need to survive, toothpaste, all that good stuff. Medical health care, co-pays, multi-basis, medications. I mean, outside of this one emergency thing, I haven't really had any medical bills.
1:24:48Out of pocket? Okay. Yeah. I mean, dental. What about your cat, age, health? She's like 17 years old. Okay. No pet insurance. Cat food, how much? $70. Maybe something like that. Gym? No. I do cartwheels in the park. Of course you do. Anything else that needs to be in your budget that I have not taken into account? No, not really. Well, yeah, I mean, the food budget's a little light, I guess, but I don't know. All right. Well, I mean, this is as simple as it gets. What are we doing? It costs you$3 ,054 to survive on a monthly basis. $10 ,000 is needed.
1:25:42pay off the debt in a couple months take six months to build an emergency fund I don't know
1:25:48pretty chill pretty easy you just have to live on your needs and not go crazy right but even with that that's going to take I mean that's going to still take a long time to get a down payment for a house right yes yeah but you don't even think about that until you have a fully funded emergency fund so i don't care about that right now and also you're only willing to buy a house once the market collapses and the bubble breaks so spending a budget you overspent zero out of ten i know they had to do with emergencies but you still spend money that you didn't necessarily have to on some things as well especially for that time debt not great debt that's about to accrue but it's not the worst debt by any means especially for your income situation i'll give you a two out of ten there.
1:26:31Emergency fund, I know that'll go to that, but I would add to the debt score and take away from the emergency fund if I was calculating that part into it. So right now, I'll give you a 6 out of 10 for emergency fund retirement. Definitely behind for your age. Pretty intensely, 4 out of 10. Maybe even a 3, but I'll do 4. I'll be generous. 0 out of 10. Hammer financial score 2.5 out of 10. Guys, make sure to join us for the post show. We're going to hang out there. Make sure you join Hammer Elite. That's the best version of our YouTube membership because it's the best YouTube membership on the platform.
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