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Podcast Episode Summary: Financial Audit - "Financial Audit's Biggest Nutcase"
Episode Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, Caleb Hammer confronts a guest, Rex, who appears to be in a precarious financial situation, largely stemming from a series of poor financial decisions and an extreme worldview surrounding COVID-19. The discussion dives deep into Rex’s financial habits, lifestyle choices, and the repercussions of his decisions on both his personal finances and his child’s well-being.
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Key Themes and Discussions
- Financial Situation
- Income Sources:
- Rex primarily earns from DoorDash and a small-scale farm, netting around $1,000/month, which is insufficient to cover his expenses.
- His previous attempts at stable employment, such as working at Applebee's and a strip club, were short-lived due to personal issues and unsuitable work environments.
- Debt Profile:
- Rex has over $334,000 in IRS debt and is currently three months behind on rent.
- He has significant credit card debt with high-interest rates, contributing to his financial struggles.
- The conversation reveals his poor financial planning; he often spent money on non-essential items, like fast food and subscriptions.
- Lifestyle Choices
- Non-Binary Child:
- Rex has a 12-year-old child who identifies as non-binary. He expresses a strong desire to provide care but struggles due to financial constraints.
- COVID-19 Impact:
- Rex displays extreme fear and avoidance of COVID-19, leading to decisions that isolate him and prevent him from participating in the workforce.
- His phobias about public spaces and interactions hinder his ability to work regularly.
- Personal Relationships
- Divorce and Custody:
- Rex recently went through a divorce, which added to his financial instability. He has a 50-50 custody arrangement and struggles with the financial obligations associated with co-parenting.
- Relationship with Ex-Partner:
- His ex-partner is involved in the adult industry and the two have a contentious relationship surrounding financial responsibilities and co-parenting.
- Attitude Towards Financial Recovery
- Rex often exhibits a defensive attitude towards criticism about his financial choices, referring to his situation as beyond his control due to external factors.
- Caleb challenges Rex's claims, emphasizing the need to take responsibility for his financial situation and encouraging a more proactive approach to his life and finances.
- Tools and Resources
- Budgeting and Planning:
- Caleb discusses the importance of budgeting and using tools like the Simpler Budget app to help manage finances. He encourages Rex to document his financial journey for accountability.
- Potential Solutions:
- Rex is gifted a course in accounting to improve his financial literacy.
- Caleb suggests that Rex might need to reconsider his business ventures if they continue to detract from earning a stable income.
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Key Takeaways
- Accountability: Rex's story highlights the importance of personal accountability in financial matters and the consequences of neglecting financial responsibilities.
- Support Systems: The episode emphasizes the need for appropriate support and resources, including professional help and budgeting tools, to improve financial literacy.
- Mental Health and Lifestyle Choices: Rex’s extreme lifestyle choices and mental health concerns significantly impact his ability to function in society, suggesting that addressing these issues is crucial for any financial recovery.
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Conclusion This episode of Financial Audit serves as a stark reminder of the complexities surrounding personal finance, mental health, and the lasting impacts of life choices. Caleb Hammer's direct approach confronts both financial mismanagement and the psychological factors at play, culminating in a multifaceted discussion that is both enlightening and cautionary for listeners.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. I would definitely say I'm a extremist. Is this like the polar opposite of Joe Rogan happening right now? Yeah, basically. 2025, what are you talking about? It's still here, bud. It's still here. Buddy, I'm not falling down your conspiracy holes. If you find the truth to be conspiracy, there are other problems. This is debt. My producers have been telling me for about a week now that they've never seen anything like it. Download my new Simpler Budget app today and take control of your money once and for all. And as an extra limited time only bonus, I will give you a signed version of my budget friendly cookbook for free when you sign up for Simpler Budget Premium Annual.
0:43Hi, my name's Rex. I'm 34. I'm from Lansing, Michigan, and this is Financial Audit. Welcome down to Texas, another Michigander. I'm from Kalamazoo. Thanks for coming down. I appreciate it. That's a big trip. What do you do for a living up there in Lansing? Currently, I am door dashing and I run a small farm. Okay, let's talk about the door dashing first. How many hours a week are we putting into that? Are we making money? It's not the pandemic anymore, so it is very different. People made a lot of money here in it. And I'm in a small town. So currently it's outside of Lansing. Okay. But yeah, Lansing mostly.
1:23Okay. How many hours a week are you working on this? So I've just started back in the last couple weeks after ending another job. Oh, okay. What were you doing a couple weeks ago? I was working at Applebee's as a line cook. Yeah. Making 16 an hour. Yeah, microwave and fryer. Why did you stop? I only worked there a few days, and it was just not a good fit. I had been trying to get some other jobs, and nothing was hiring. so uh nothing was hiring okay interesting well i put in applications to do like all sorts of stuff like technicians did you have job interviews i didn't even get callbacks on most of them so how's your resume my resume could it mostly just says my company that i own definitely what it could definitely use some help i'm an owner of a company okay i was a stay-at-home dad before the divorce you have a kid yeah divorce okay yes uh cans of worms flying all over sorry no it's okay uh holds your kid oh no your kid okay okay uh my child is there only one only one okay they are 12 years old and they prefer non-binary terms okay 12 year old a 12 a a 12 year old yes yeah yeah okay cool they're amazing they are everything i care about and i've been taking care of them since they were a baby um their mom was working full-time and it gave me the freedoms to take care of them like take care of my my child and take care of everything they needed as they've grown wait this kid at 12 has asked you to uh to do non-binary yeah yeah their mother their parent is also non-binary so oh okay yeah i'm not super familiar with the world so i was just kind of okay I just realized like 12.
3:16Oh my, that's young. Yeah, they just prefer neutral terms. Cool. Sure. Why not? Okay. So divorce. When did you have a divorce? Divorce. We separated in May 2023 and the divorce was finalized fall of 2024. Okay. So neither really that long ago. My goodness. Okay. I mean, I'm constructing an image in my head and I really don't want to be Dutch mental out of the gate. I really don't. Just go for it. No, no, no. I'm trying not to because I'm seeing divorce dad, mid-30s, doesn't try to start being a line cook at Applebee's, but that was too much. So he runs away to DoorDash. DoorDash is comfortable.
4:07DoorDash is comfortable. Are you making what you need? I am getting there. I just started. So I'm getting used to it. Yes, I'm getting there. So you're not there. I am not there. So you're not making what you need. I am not. What are you making in DoorDash? Currently on DoorDash, it's about$3.50 a week and like 25 hours. Is that before or after gas maintenance? That's pre all of it. How much goes a gas on a monthly basis? On a monthly basis? A weekly basis, let's say. Okay. So about$60. so 384 minus 60 bucks probably minus another minimum 20 for maintenance you know for insurance well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well i mean we'll put that into your budget and everything but i'm just trying to see like what is your income um the okay so we'll do 384 we'll minus like 20 for maintenance so we'll say 364 times that by 4 1456 on a monthly basis from door dash yes that would be a good average for what i'm currently at uber survivable okay so i tried a bunch of jobs over the last year um well i was gonna say the 1456 isn't like the most livable pre-expenses so why did applebee's not work out i want to hear a little bit more about that okay so applebee's i i had started i hired in and i have a lot of previous restaurant experience at front of house so serving bartending server managing yeah uh and that's stuff i'm very comfortable with i get into the kitchen first date this guy has a meltdown over the fish meltdown um an absolute meltdown over the microwave fish over well the frozen fish not being stocked so i was just taken aback what are you the fish man um i don't like working with like extremely toxic people and he was definitely rubbing me the wrong way oh but he didn't do anything to you no no nothing to i was just standing there uh trying to well i was like why would it impact you i guess okay so you just saw someone blowing up freaking out and i was like is this a common thing and then the manager was like yeah i tried to warn you he was a hothead And I was like, that's other steps could have been taken.
6:24Like the management always has interesting personalities, especially in a place like Applebee's. Yeah, absolutely. But also offense to Applebee's there. They have some very good food. But yeah, they're I love their brewpub pretzels. They're delicious. I guess I shouldn't judge. I haven't been in like 15 years. That's valid. OK. Yeah. So someone got angry once and you quit. It was that. So the next day I talked to the manager. I had a morning shift scheduled. So I went in and I was like, hey, can I chat with you for a minute? Like this isn't setting well with me. Is this something that's going to be a daily occurrence?
7:02Like I just do not thrive well in this stressful environment. And she was like, okay, well, what can we have you do? Like how can I make this better for you? And I was like, well, the dishes would be cool because they switched me over to dishes on the first shift. They're dish call. what were you doing before applebee's before applebee's i was looking landing in this position i was just looking for i was applying for anything you had that yeah before though what was your recent job before that it's just been caregiving for the last five years caregiving yeah and okay what happened um that's still my that's my main did you say that at the beginning I thought you said you have a business.
7:42And my farm. Yeah, caregiving. What do you... And Michigan is a... Okay, so it has to be like what? Corner apples. No, it's... Oh. Oh, I guess I did leave Michigan right when that started. The whole legalization of that. Really? A farm? Yeah, yeah. Is that legal? A 72 plant farm. Yeah, yeah, it's legal. Yeah, we're allowed to receive donations for... 72 plant farm, what is that? Remuneration. 0.01 acre like what it's an indoor farm so yeah okay uh it's a nine light facility what are you making off of this so right now we are just getting it started where we're having kind of like just getting started yeah well is there anything that's not just getting started no uh well you are 34 right yeah okay uh life's not just getting started no the life definitely isn't Um, but the consistent harvests are what we're finally getting to.
8:41It takes time to find the right strains and genetics to get consistent harvest, to pay all your bills, to pay the workers. You're not even paying all your bills. All of the farm bills are, are, are paid. That comes out of the like donations directly. So donations, it has to be called it. No, it's just referred to as donations because it's, uh, you're remunerated for your services. Did you just call me? you're being compensated for your electrical water knowledge you know uh you're it's a donation like i'm not paying okay tax on those necessarily is that legal yeah yeah it's part of the legal framework of that is how it's Michigan caregiver yes okay because i don't know wait caregiver yes that's what a caregiver is yes oh that's what you mean by caregiving yeah I have five medical patients.
9:32Yeah. I thought you were in a fucking home helping people. Well, I am, but helping them smoke the stuff they need to smoke to. In a home? You're in their home? No, no. Well, some patients I take right to their home, you know. And we know for a fact this is 100 % legal, what you're doing, the way you're doing it. Yes. Okay, because it's outside of my world, I'll be honest. Yeah. yeah that sounds weird yeah my and why if you have such own a larger legal one like you know 100 or 500 plant facility yeah if you're getting so many donations and everything why aren't you living fully off of this what are you making what's our profit what's our profit on this so is it allowed to be a profit if it's donations yeah because i still have to pay employees and pay for things sure but i said profit right that's what i'm i haven't gotten there quite yet so So there's been very little profit.
10:29Not the black. I wouldn't say the red for the grow. I would say the farm is in the... So there's a profit. Yes, there is a profit. What's your profit? It's about$1 ,000 a month. Okay, so you bring$1 ,000 a home a month. Yes, that enters my cash app or cash or however. Okay, so$1 ,000 a month. Obviously, that's not enough to survive on. You were doing that for five years, and you started all of a sudden, you were like, I can't survive sitting with the Applebee's? What about Jared? I was just trying to do more. Of Subway. Yeah, I thought about it. Subway would probably work well. But Subway, I'd never actually applied to there.
11:10Sandwich Artist was not on my list. It was a Jared joke. I know. Okay. I understand.
11:18Yeah, the farm has just been, it started out so I could just provide free. to family and parents. Sure, what about paying your bills or also taking care of the kid? You have custody. What's the custody situation? 50-50. Okay, so I feel like you probably want to provide for this a child. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome. Sorry, tongue-tied. It's a delicate road to dance down. I have tried many, many things to try and make ends meet. Sure, what about don't leave a normal job? I didn't have a normal job to start with. Applebee's is a job. Applebee's is a job. Unfortunately, ultimately, they would not work with my scheduling it.
12:06Because I only get my child half the time, I cannot give up all of that time to Applebee's. I don't know if you have kids, but that is not due. I cannot give Applebee's for$16 an hour. You're right, I don't. All of my time. Somehow, all these other parents are also able to work jobs. I don't know how that's possible. What do you mean? When their bills are this high, you cannot make$16 an hour. The bills that are that high that you got into. Yes, that I put myself into. Okay, well, that's different. Why don't you control your bills then? Exactly. That's what I need help with. Okay. Yeah, maybe it starts with probably not giving all our time to this donation business and putting all our time into it.
12:47Well, ultimately, nothing will make more money than the farm will, like hourly. It makes$1 ,000 a month. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I mean, when it's... Sure, when? The hypothetical when? No, no. April 18th is the next harvest, and it's going to be... So, it's a... I harvest three lights every 21 days. So, three lights is between anywhere from six to 14 pounds of cash at$1 ,600 a pound. Sure. Don't you owe the IRS, like,$25 ,000? I wish. I wish. so the the farm has been my way forward i've put all of my learning all of my efforts all of my relationship building all of it into providing the best medicine i can for my patients okay and we are almost there and i am so excited what's different this time this time i i have solid genetics i have the room i need i have the ac i need i have the team i need so you just sound like every person that comes on the show and is incredibly optimistic and then we follow up afterwards and their grand plan doesn't work like i don't know like i can't say no that's not gonna work but i also can't just agree with you because look where you are like i'm i'm uh cognitively investing into this person's truth that is in this kind of situations like i don't know right yeah it takes uh you definitely have to see the process to really um are you an endless entrepreneur basically i have uh okay i have tried oh what was your last okay another recent tangent um very similar to the fish tank behind you is freshwater aquariums my you were making a business off of that i am current i make about 500 a month currently from net profits or profits profit yeah okay um from aquarium plants and fish sales which is like facebook marketplace yes exactly face and you just breed and grow yes yep guppies sore tails placosomus you've been doing this i started last year when my roommate moved in they brought one tank over and uh we now have over 17 my question is with the amount of hours that you put into this a thousand dollars a month that you get on average after batches are well that's after um paying like all of the bills employees yes after expenses just like how i get my money at this business and upgrades you know like yes then welcome to business yes yeah after expenses that's what i'm saying eventually it'll start to make more money is like a like next month april i certainly hope so again i'm relying on the information to be correct from this guy yes exactly have you seen me roasting people's terrible credit card choices but how about we flip the script.
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17:04and that's it say goodbye to guessing and say hello to smarter credit choices visit agent.ai or click the link below and let me know what card you land on okay so again thousand hours a month that is the tangible reality as of now not the hypothetical previously yes yeah now now dude now not previously now now just not hypothetical future okay now it's a thousand five hundred from fish how many hours a week are you putting into both of those less than 20 less than 20 less than 20 okay including packaging and shipping and everything you have to do for both sides yes less than 20 yes okay i mean that's a good relatively decent return on oh wait you said a month that's What did you get?
17:57Never mind. Yeah, it's like 18 bucks an hour.
18:04If it's so good, why would you have to be door-dashing? Why would you be looking at Applebee's? Why would all these things? Because I'm behind and I need to catch up. And I've been trying everything. I was hoping Applebee's would be a good fit. Why are you so far behind? I was in, my ex-partner made a lot more money than me. And I still have all of the bills from that. I live in the marital home. I'm trying to sustain. You live in the house still? Yes. With your ex? No, they moved out. Oh, they moved out. Okay. Yeah, they moved out. So I stayed with our kid. And I haven't been able to afford it.
18:40And I've fallen behind. Why haven't you sold the house? So because of the current federal tax situation, it is not currently worth enough unless we list over market value, a substantial amount. Okay, so we have this grand amount of money coming in, which means this must be a very successful job because you're a very successful entrepreneur. Do you have any other jobs? What other jobs have you done? Other jobs I've done? I want this existence of you so that I can actually put what you're saying into reality. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so let's start. Separation happened, 2023. I needed to start making money on my own.
19:22i started trying to be a webcam model myself and it did not work out model yeah like live webcam modeling you're yeah you were like hole out uh double hole no i was just trying to sling my meat a little bit wow man and it did not go well for me it was less than 15 an hour um well who like where what and so so well my my only real customer i got on there was this woman that just wanted to see my belly button um that was really it she would ask me to stretch my arms up or try different shirts on and that was she just wanted to see my belly and that was and but i'd sign on and nothing would happen yeah i was trying well listen well also from work from home covet has been a huge issue for us so like i couldn't uh we've been 2025 what are you talking about what do you it's still here bud it's still here right now yeah but it's not like impacting the rest of us have you heard of long covid oh you mean that but not that's from a single infection but not in terms of like the economical impact like people are going out and working people are well right but the economical people are in restaurants people are traveling long-term look at your life if you are unable to live past the age of 35 because...
20:47Wait, are you afraid of getting long COVID? I'm not. My ex-partner and daughter and child both have long COVID already. I'm not afraid of it. All of them have long COVID? You likely have long COVID also. Well, then I'm f***ing kicking its ass. A lot of people aren't. How many? I don't know any statistical... About 40 % of people that get a single infection, and most people have had 10-plus infections by now. Do you understand the math on that? Because that's everybody. I do, but if that was the case, this entire country's economic system would be shut down. No, no. But it's not. It takes time.
21:25You're saying that's going to happen? It will happen. Is this like the polar opposite of Joe Rogan happening right now? Yeah, basically. Yeah. Okay. So you're like, he's like, he didn't like believe any of that. Yeah, they didn't understand what the risk is. You believe it's like the black death. But there are tools that we can use, like what I brought here today. Like this guy here, Covixil. It's antiviral. Yeah, it's an antiviral. Two shoots up your nose at a time, and it keeps you safe. How do you find these people? It'll keep you safe. If you got sick kids and you're tired of them being sick, give them Covixil before they go to school.
22:03Keep them safe. If you're going out in a crowd, use them Covixil. How do you give that to your kid? Two squirts in their nose. How often, I said? Just for gymnastics. We homeschool our child. Because you're afraid of them going outside? No, because public school is a crock and homeschool is much better. But it's not the fear of getting sick. Well, we just take extra steps to stay safe. It's not the fear of getting sick. But they're not not in school because of your fear of them getting sick. Correct? Right. Okay. It's because you wanted to homeschool. Well, initially we pulled our child out of school because COVID was getting bad in our area.
22:41Didn't school shut down? Not really. Michigan was locked down for like three years. No, they went to like reduced class sizes, but they reverted back quickly. There was a study published about this Covixil here last October that shows that. Well, it's from Harvard, so your quotations are a little impetuous. No, it's just anytime anyone throws out the word study, it's like, okay, from what? October 4th, 2024, Harvard. Yeah. That's when the study's from. It's about antivirals in mice. Oh, yeah, yeah. So their test was mostly about the flu, and they exposed the mice to 250 times the lethal level, and the mice were fine.
23:23They had covixil. The other ones are dead because it was 250 times the lethal limit. Okay. It kept those mice safe. they didn't get the flu. They didn't get COVID. They didn't get RSV. They didn't get any of these viruses. Okay. Covixil is a nasal spray developed by Salvecon USA Inc. It's intended to bury the nasal passages to block airborne viruses, including COVID. However, it's important to note that Covixil has not received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration February 2024. the FDA issued a warning letter to the company stating that Covixil nasal spray is an unapproved new drug introduced into interstate commerce in violation of section 505A of the federal food drug and cosmetic act.
24:16The FDA emphasized that introducing such a product without an approved application is prohibited. Despite the lack of FDA approval, Covixil has been available for purchase over the counter at various retailers for like H-E-B and Meijer. Before Covixil, we were masking every day and fully isolated from March 2024 until separation. This sounds like you're very scared. July 2023. We've been avoiding infection because each one takes significant time off of your life. Whether it's now or later, it's taking the time. Like you're going to be sick, you're going to be out of work. You have the hard science behind that.
24:53Of long COVID? Yes. Yeah, I have that NIH article. If one person gets COVID, they're going to die 20 years younger. No, no, it's not that you're going to. Five years? It's not a specific time necessarily. What are you saying? It's just some period of time you will lose with every single infection you get. Like a minute? Like what are we talking about? It depends on your other health factors. Well, doesn't everything? Yes. Yes, if you're a fat fuck like me, I'm not going to live as long. Nothing has had the profound impact on children. If you have heart disease, you're not going to live as long.
25:26But it is a part of my financial thing because I haven't been able to. Well, that's fine. I'll let you talk. I like to play devil's advocate to things. I would definitely say I'm a COVID extremist over the last five years. That is very clear. But I just do not have the information equipped to be able to have a reasonable conversation is what I'm saying. Like, obviously, I can tell you're in an extreme camp, but I don't have even like the middle camp's ability to like talk about it. Right. Because it's like I got COVID a few weeks ago and I had a like. So you'll need to watch for new symptoms as time develops.
26:00Well, sure. Anxiety, depression, gut issues. Well, it was like five months ago. None of those have changed. I also had it like four years ago. Still none of those have changed. But nothing new has happened to me. That's good for you, but for a lot of people, they can't get out of their bed anymore. That's part of it also. You don't think your thyroid's affected when you get a COVID infection? I think I don't work out and eat really poorly. That could be. That is. Mathematically, my calorie in versus out is uh-uh. You have to know what your macros are to lose weight or maintain, if that's your goal.
26:40But if you don't care, you just don't care. That's fine. okay something just tells me you've been on reddit or twitter too long but i okay like even after this show i'm quarantining for a week before i pick my kid up again are you okay and i'm on covixel and masking on the airplane and using cpc mouthwash cpc i don't even that's these are tools people should use even worth living if you live it like this you think those steps are extreme i find life to be worth that you're not gonna see another human for a week yeah that's pretty but i won't see my kid um like that isolating well yeah i'll be in my house but alone well oh are you gonna see any other humans well my roommate will be there but they've accepted the risk that if i come back with an infection they're fine with it but i don't want to give my daughter an addition or i don't want to give my kid an additional instance of covid if i can avoid it it's preventing me from working um and applebee's was another issue with that where i i couldn't mask and be in the kitchen it just wasn't working um it was just too hot in there my glasses were it just wasn't oh so it wasn't they didn't say you couldn't no they no i i i couldn't i could for my personal choices and views i could not operate in society well it basically sounds like you're not actually in fact you're not because you couldn't exist in an applebee's and you're 34 and you have no career okay this makes a lot more sense you're incapable of operating in civilization right yes yes yes guys i just wanted to say an extra thank you for making simpler budget an incredibly popular app i wasn't expecting it but we literally get like thousands of downloads a day and a lot of you are actually changing your financial future and we've been hearing from you so thank you all for supporting us.
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29:04Seriously, download Simpler Budget now. It's incredible. The time to take control of your finances is literally right now. And as an extra limited time only bonus, I will give you a signed version of my budget friendly cookbook for free when you sign up for Simpler Budget Premium Annual. Okay. Yeah, it was like McDonald's was the the same situation i worked at mcdonald's too yes in 2024 you're dropping the fries wow okay yep i started at mcdonald's in 2024 worked there for about a month and then uh the the manager opened up with me one morning and uh was blaming me for going too slow well after just training me on the drink station and taking orders they kind of introduced me to it and then they were like okay you can do this now right and then uh yelled at me for being too slow and we were the only two people there and then later that day that same shift uh the woman was making breakfast burritos in the back and just like kind of coughing all over them uh and i was like yeah and i was like Well, that has nothing to do with COVID.
30:15This is a gross... Well, she tested positive for COVID, so it actually was COVID this time. But she also was just a gross... Because I don't care if you have COVID, don't cough into food. Right, yeah. Like, those gloves aren't going to stop your coughs going in there, ma 'am. No. So I was like, okay, this is... I don't want to eat this or be here. So I left that, and then a couple weeks later, I had started at a tree service company. I was... It's as long as you've held down a real job. The tree service company was... how long that was almost six months oh and i caught a log is this even worth going through your documents oh my i think i caught a log to the side of my head on that i think you just lost man i think you're just you're gonna be afraid until the moment you die of everything and i'm not saying people didn't get sick i'm not i'm not saying i'm on the other side of it either i'm not saying i'm on your side i'm not even taking an opinion or stance because honestly i'm just not educated i just don't really care i was like you know i got a little bit of fever and i was like oh this sucks hopefully i can go outside again soon and then i did hopefully i can move again is some people's reality sure i'm just saying i hope i can get out of this i'm just trying to make sure i'm positioning for those that are listening out there that i'm not like even taking a position but you're obviously in an extremist camp and it is preventing you from living a life a normal life a life i feel like i have a pretty good you're not gonna see people for a week in 2025 because you sat across from the table from me well because of i was also on an airplane two seats away from a woman a little spray well yeah and i also had an n95 on but like that doesn't necessarily i would like to take all the steps i can't keep my kids well exactly like mormon underwear yeah they're my garments essentially these are my covid religious Just garments.
32:08So after tree service ended, it was just down the road from a strip club. And one of my jobs on my list of stuff to do in my life was strip club manager. What, so you could see tits? No. What, you were slaying dick online? Well, sure. Yeah, but, well, belly button mostly. Yeah. I was really it was close I had made a joke with a co-worker like I'm just gonna go start working there like I'm tired of doing tree work because it was a 45 minute commute there 45 minutes back and then it was working from 8am to 4ish
32:53and 20 bucks an hour how have you actually survived that's a great question it's an incredible question because I'm surprised you're not killing yourself by injecting your things. Like, I'm surprised you're not 500 pounds from not being able to leave your house. And so this is, I'm okay. I try to keep healthier food in the house. So what happened at the strip club then? Okay, at the strip club. We will get into the finances. I am trying to establish this man's fucking base because, oh my God. Okay, okay. So the strip club, I knew I could make some tips being the bartender up there. That was what I was thinking.
33:27You said manager. Well, I was training to be a manager. So you have to do the door and then you learn bartending. Then you learn DJ and you learn how to pull the cash from the ATMs. Oh, sure. And then, yeah, you go from there. So I had got to door and bartender, except it was only$11 an hour for the first 90 days. Before tips. Before tips, yeah. $11 an hour. Old minimum wage. Before tips. So that was going pretty well. The scheduling was kind of killing me because I homeschool and I was, So I'd have to work from 7 p.m. to like 3 a.m. and then wake up and do homeschool and then go back to work.
34:04And it was just it was just not working while I was sleeping in. I was I was exhausted. How long did you stay there? I was there for four months, four months at the strip club. So until. But they did have this one contest there called the prettiest butthole in Michigan. It's a pretty good contest. Yeah. If you want to compete. Participate or judge. I was I was just witnessing. I wasn't judging or participating. The guy that won, though, definitely deserved the trophy. That was nice and bleached. I'm sure. OK. He did fantastic. Yeah. He had the best stink star in the galaxy, I'm pretty sure. What the f*** are you f***ing doing?
34:57Just working. Kind of. I mean, you quit every job. You're not working a job right now. You're doing DoorDash. DoorDash is a job. It's a job, but with your money before expenses. It's a job that fits my schedule currently, and I enjoy doing it. It's because your schedule is borderline made by you. that's well i mean it's between my custody arrangement and homeschool scheduling i need to do all of these other things okay maybe you can't homeschool then no i i have to homeschool okay then maybe you're just unable to operate as a single dad mathematically so far that is correct yeah it's been extremely hard to go from extremely hard traditional husband to buddy this is debt I actually don't even know it but my producers have been telling me for about a week now that they've never seen anything like it so I know for a fact you are failing and at some point you have to give up some things I've given up everything I can so far just to make things work I could get into some details if you like what would you like to no all I know is you don't need to be doing this donation business you don't need to be doing the fish business It takes time.
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36:14It takes time. And even if that time. But even$16 an hour would not cover those. Hey, shut up for a second. Even if that time is making$16 an hour, if you have to dedicate an hour to fish, let's just say randomly as an example, in the middle of a day, and that's preventing you from going and working nine hours somewhere else, it doesn't make up for it. And your financial situation is proof of it. if you cannot afford to take care of your child because you are dedicated to homeschooling them then you can't afford to this is basic or not to it's worth any price to take care of my oh my oh my you if you have a kid one day you might understand yeah are you married yet i am not but guess what i've seen a lot of people on this show and this is where you're headed that you're so proud of for some reason where their entire life your kid is going to be on hold because their failure and joke of a dad while they're trying to live their life never did anything in their entire life their dad's life so all of a sudden your kid has to put their life on hold to take care of their failure dad that's where you're going that's just a mathematical reality i don't need to have had a kid to know that's not gonna happen fuck you that's not going to happen.
37:29Look at your finances now. You're in your mid 30s. You're acting like a 12 year old. Shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about. You're a baby. Shut up. What a joke. That's not going to happen. You don't know anything. You're not even living life as an adult in 34. You couldn't successfully complete a marriage. You can't successfully complete holding a job. I was married for 12 years. And guess what? You're not. You couldn't successfully complete holding a job for more than six months. You couldn't work in a kitchen. You can't go and sit across a desk from someone without having to sit in a house for a week.
38:05You're a child. You're incapable of existing in this world and doing all this stuff that you want to do. Just like, by the way, your kid, you want to homeschool your kid. All this stuff that you are choosing is going to put you in a position where they're going to have to put their life on hold to take care of their joke of a dad. That is your choice. And it's honestly a disgusting choice. It is a selfish choice. So them being sick from being in public school constantly is a better thing. So how would I take care of a sick kid? I can't afford a babysitter. I can't afford a hospital bill. If they get the sniffles, COVID is not the sniffles.
38:47I didn't even say COVID. You just said sick. I'm suggesting a cold. There's hardly even colds anymore. That's not even true. I know that's not true. Bring up the wastewater data and look up holes over the last five years. You should check it out. Buddy, I'm not falling down your conspiracy holes. If you find the truth to be conspiracy, there are other problems. That's what everyone says, buddy. You've met someone else that's taken this many COVID precautions? Matt? No, but we've all seen them. We all know people like you in society and you never go anywhere. The survivors? I'll be here long after the rest of you are gone.
39:29I highly doubt that. I will be. I don't think that's on my bingo list. Your life isn't existing. I have some great coworkers. Coworkers? Oh, the stuff? Yeah, and I see people with DoorDash. How do I not see people? I have to go into this. these stores and every day and interact with people leading moment it's not an actual connection what does the future hold for businesses ask nine experts and you'll get 10 different answers bull market bear market inflation up down honestly can someone just invent a crystal ball already but until then over 41 000 businesses have actually future-proofed their operations with today's sponsor net suite by oracle the number one cloud erp that brings accounting financial management, inventory, and HR all into one fluid platform.
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40:59Once again, that is netsuite.com slash hammer. Thanks to NetSuite for sponsoring the video. Let's jump back into it. How extensive is your friend group? I have a pretty remarkable friend group. I have some fantastic friends. Let's hear about it. okay uh anyone specifically i could start with my roommate describe your friend group this robust friend group um i wouldn't say it's robust it's it's like four four people in my no it's it's really all i need dude you can live whatever life you want but you're gonna take down your kid with you i'm really trying not to do that and part of this show is to help give them a better future listen listening to you and the absolute world view you have nothing i'm gonna say is gonna fix anything you're already you're gone you you need like a like a comp a deep therapy that are you do you go to therapy no not anymore no yeah i can't afford that okay i'll give you three free sessions with sounder mind i use them the audience is them former guests use them all right i appreciate that i will definitely use those thank you yeah bring this up you got some stuff going on i'm not sure what they could tell me that will change any of it they just need to people like you spiral you're spiraling because people can fall down the complete opposite side there's extremists everywhere and lots of things but when you start falling down the extremes where there's only one like like a perfect truth that only you know it just it just gets this isn't something only i know i know but come on it's your little your little community your little we just like to be safe and protect our kids that's really it that's a nice way to say it and present it but look how you've talked so far you're literally destroying your life for the sake of that it's i'd rather be broke than dead for sure a million percent i'd rather be penniless than dead okay cool than dead yeah and before we move on let me get let's get a real statistic then this is not a political thing we're just gonna get an actual real data point 103 million confirmed covid19 cases so in your instance literally a third of the united states would be completely failing and collapsing okay as a result uh of the 1.2 million deaths of the diagnosed cases was 1.2 % death so 99 % chance of survival which according from initial infection yes but it's important to note that that is only on uh based on people who actually got diagnosed the vast majority did not and then the vast majority of people that did were either old or morbidly obese so there you go um i'm not just afraid of death it's the but you said no no you you made it You made this sound like, and this is why what you have is an extreme position.
44:02I'm not saying it's not scared to die, but you said I would rather be financially than dead. You made it either or. And it's not that simple. And your extreme brain has gotten you there. And it's preventing you from actually living a decent life. And that is scary. Repeat infections would kill me and dramatically shorten my child's life. You're saying that as a fact. It is a fact. Look up repeat infections. oh my gosh this is such a stupid why are we talking about this for 40 minutes i don't really care about this a lot of people don't most people don't actually probably about 99 of people do not care at all about this they don't care about their kids they don't care about their spouse they don't care about their parents about caring it's what you're defining as caring have you seen what attendance looks like in an elementary school since since covid Huh?
44:53Have you seen what, like, attendance rates look like in public schools? I can't find an actual statistic related to reinfection. Because no one knows how bad it is. And how are you so confident, then? You said that I am going to die if I get it. It's just a law of averages. So if you get it 99 times? If you have it, no, even 20 times. But you said you will die. You said will. You will. I'm moving on. Okay, that's fair. Because this is actually... yes and the numbers aren't on my side because they don't they aren't there like the information is just not there yet there's not even a test for long covid unless you have a previous covid infection and you have all these new symptoms they just say oh well that's long covid i'm not saying it doesn't exist i'm not saying that actually i know that my medically diagnosed they do medically diagnose it but you're like there's no test for it there's no way to tell what actually is they just use a list of things and you're like you have it so like you're not making it sound good you're not making it sound i wish i wish i could make it sound better i don't know how you're so obsessed my if you're not able to make it actually it's basically a bet it's a gamble that i believe these things will happen so you're not willing to gamble with the 99%.
46:10If I have a 1 % chance of losing and a 99 % chance success of winning, I'm probably taking the role on the win. What is the win though? Repeat infections? Again, there's no actual statistics around that. At least that I can find. Well, all for what it's worth, what I did is I did the search function on GPT. So I had it scour resources. So obviously I can't sit here and read 50 ,000 books in the middle of this conversation. All right. I have to do what I I wouldn't expect you to, of course. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cool. So essentially you're not willing to change anything and all this finances that you would rather have f***ed up than certain death.
46:50So why the f*** are we having this conversation then? Because there's other ways forward that don't require me to be around people. Yeah, I have them. Then why aren't you successful? Because it takes time and I'm getting there. Yeah, buddy. You've been in adulthood 16 years. I had a pretty successful career before as a stay-at-home dad. Oh, okay. That's my longest career. I've been doing that for 12 years. When was the last time your kid got sick?
47:30November 2024. I had went and stayed at my brother's house after taking a trip to repo a vehicle. And I ended up getting sick and then came back home. And I'd only quarantined three days. And it was not long enough. And my kid ended up getting sick. But that was the flu. Aren't you afraid by them not actually getting any antibodies of anything? By ever having any interaction with anything? Do you know where antibodies come from? That if they do just get like a literal flu at some point, it's going to like destroy them. That's not how our immune system works. That's all based on a lie that getting sick builds it.
48:11It weakens it every time. Yeah, well, I asked the question. Yeah. Well, where do you think your financial score is? Zero to 10, zero being the worst, 10 being the best. Zero currently. Okay, so we better not change anything. If you want your Hammer financial score, link is in the description below, or you can go to calebhammer.com. if you want to come on this show calebhammer.com slash apply we'd be happy to have you normally this is where I say download the simpler budget app because this is it'll actually fix your financial situation by you can see how much you spend on certain things you get the premium version but you're not a budgeting case that is as clear as day it is obviously not your actual finances that is impacting your life you are down deep rabbit holes of extremes okay IRS for 2014?
49:02Yes.
49:07What? The f***? Yeah, 11 years ago. That's comedic. What? Can they even collect on that? It's 11 years old. It's the IR f***ing S. No, there's a statute of limitations on that, I'm sure. It's got to be 10 years.
49:29before you get too far you should maybe look at a couple of the next pages there
49:38did that say that IRS can only collect after 10 years have you seen that before yep 10 years for collections the IRS has 10 years from the date of assessment when the tax is recorded as due to collect the debt after that it's typically erased Typically, yes. Okay. Okay, so if you'll just go... They obviously have not erased it. A couple more here. Typical has not applied to you. So why haven't you paid taxes? Oh, my.
50:14It's another$42 ,884 in tax. Oh, my. And for the next year, it's$70 ,000 in taxes? We had a very successful business. Is this stacking? Are these separate? Those are stacking. Those are separate years. 18, it went down a little to 42 ,000. Then 6 ,000 in 2020. 2020 was the year we started our corporation and started putting our money through an S Corp. What was the business? My ex-wife is a cam model, so we were making over$10 ,000 a month. Yeah, because if they could do it, I could do it. But I can't. I can't do it. It's no good. It doesn't work well for me. I am not a good fit for that. They're much better.
51:00So this was us working together over the course of our marriage. What was your role? Photography and videography and sometimes acting for the channel and for videos. I have IRS stat cumulative of 334 ,000. Yes, that's 2014 through 2020.
51:25that's insane i don't even know what to say yeah that's i i don't i don't have words for that yeah it's it took some time to build that amount why didn't you guys pay taxes we were the estimated payments were just not enough we did not send nearly enough money estimated payment did you work with the cpa for those estimated payments um no i had went to h &r block for my taxes. Oh, good. Yes, for your... Yeah, and they kind of screwed us over. They did not help us do what we needed to. I wouldn't have gone to H &R Block if I was making that much money. Well, I didn't know where to go. It was... Google CPA.
52:05I don't know. I didn't know that then. That was... Didn't know what? I didn't know who to look for to help me. Google who to look for to help me. in in 2014 i just had um you're able to look things up well right but when i looked it up it just said go to h &r block and talk to a tax professional that was a paid ad at the top okay um so i was living in knoxville at the time in a house that was what percentage were you guys estimating that uh we well we were planning for 30 percent you put 30 percent aside no no we didn't that's what we were planning to but we never did what the f***ing mean planning to for a half a decade you're not planning now I believe even less that I'm going to start making money or it's starting it's starting slowly it's going to happen because I was planning and it was five f***ing years of planning f*** you planning what percentage did you guys actually set aside planning set aside none it was just you said you filed estimated taxes well no we would file the the form but you didn't pay right yeah yeah i just thought that they would set me up with a payment plan or rent like eventually they did in 2018 but it was our income had become impacted from getting uh their payment processor shut down okay from sesta do you remember that no okay well they lost anyways the site we used to work on linked directly to our channel so we could monetize our views from the hub directly to our live stream why'd you guys get divorced uh like why that was the word i used um there was a multitude of reasons ultimately yeah why'd you guys get divorced uh my ex-partner got into astrology uh oh you both are insane really into astrology and you both can't delicately get into things you both have to go down the craziest exactly okay we are what and your signs didn't match so you got divorced uh yeah my sign was to leave um i was not interested in no no like i'll okay why'd you guys get divorced so you got into astrology we got into us they they got into astrology and they started so instead of working on like their work stuff for twitter they started posting more on about astrology and and finding people that felt like that with them i could because i have were you guys open uh no no okay we were exclusive but she was different stars no no no this is cam modeling not like so our no no sorry when she was making connections i was so i was associate so like part of the tax debt actually from like 2015 2016 2017 we were hiring other people to we were paying other people to come cam with us we were doing different types of shows and then we would not tax them for what we were paying.
55:18Oh, okay. Well, they, someone messaged them on the internet about astrology and they had, my ex-wife had posted about, uh, feet fetish work, like, and linking it to astrology. And, uh, this, uh, recently unhoused individual from the greater San Diego area reached out to them and said, Hey, I like you. I want to hang out with you. Uh, and then, I think that started so this would have been March 2023 um and then May 2023 um my ex gave me some poems saying they wanted they wanted out and so she left yeah they left they they left yeah they left and at the time I had rented a house for my mother and brother um to move into to so they could continue their job and they took that rental agreement since it had their income in for because we were married.
56:18It had their name on it. So they're like, well, I'll just take this lease and move in here. You said you got on a payment plan for some of these? Yes. Yeah, we were on a payment plan in 2018. 2018 for the previous ones? Yeah, for all the previous ones. And that was at$2 ,800. You're fucked. Wait, what do you mean? If the debt sat there for 10 years and did nothing? Then it could be dismissed. But it didn't. It was likely that forgiveness, not forgiveness period i'm trying to figure out a way to explain this that was likely paused because he went on the payment plan and it may have negated time i don't know where you are in terms of when this could have fallen off i don't know without more information maybe we'll get it going through this conversation but it's currently non-collectible that 10 years though works if it's if nothing happens it can get paused quite often though that 10 years all right leaving the country applying for different services, going through the negotiation or conversations of a payment plan.
57:22Right. Yeah, I had hired Lotham or Tax Solutions. Oh, good. You can pay a lawyer, just not your taxes. Productive member of society. I hired them on my behalf to try and get the tax situation taken care of. Yeah. And they ultimately just got us a payment plan we couldn't afford. So we ended up paying them$10 ,000. You did pay$10 ,000? Yeah, it was$10 ,000 to allow them to attack solutions. And then we got the monthly payments going. I paid like three of them because we had just enough money, but then we couldn't maintain after that. Okay. The lack of income from... You guys filed jointly? Yes.
58:06Okay. What's they doing? The same thing. pain wait but are they helping to pay this because not all of it's even 10 years old no no are they doing okay at least i don't i'm not sure they haven't really disclosed much all right but they don't talk to me about i've asked like even before coming on here i was like hey what's going on they're still in michigan yeah they're still in michigan okay they live not too far from me. Still doing cam thing? Yes. And they've started with their new partner. Apparently the internet doesn't like them as much as they like me. We went from 17 million views on to now their channel's you know, 170th of that.
59:02But that's okay. He's nice to my kid and that's what matters. Are they terrified Friday COVID too? Yeah, we're all in that game. We're all on that. Yeah, and the guy that came over from San Diego, he's been COVID avoiding with us this entire time, which has been very appreciated. But it ultimately him not being able to go find work I'm sure is not helping their financial situation also other than him working with them so what was your plan for these taxes then my plan was to well ultimately i was hoping that the house could sell and they just get paid because we haven't you sold the house it's well i need to i need money to do some upgrades and what needs to be upgraded uh well not to be up well the water heater needs to be upgraded Yeah, but you can get that in a concession.
1:00:03Yes, yes, it could. But making a concession when I'm asking$200 ,000 above market. Why the f*** are you offering$200 ,000 above market? No, no, that's what I would need. I would need that to cover the federal tax debt because the federal tax debt at$330 ,000 and we owe$124 ,000 on the house. But you said you can't even afford living at your house. Right, yeah. So you have to sell it regardless of if it fully pays off the tax debt or not. Well, my ex-wife could move in there. She has another dude, it sounds like. Why would she move in? Well, they're in a rental house, and the mortgage is in their name.
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1:02:31Thanks again to Moomoo for sponsoring this video. Let's get back into the audit. Well, because I thought they were going to. Why? Well, because at one point they had told me they were going to. Why aren't they then? Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
1:02:48okay yeah so when you say you can't afford it are you at least making your mortgage payments on time and giving up other things so with the divorce the agreement was that i pay the exact mortgage amount in rent through a rental contract that i did not quite read her to yeah to them yeah to them so i pay them the 1351 each month um okay but i'm deal what about when you sell the house do you get equity yeah i get half of whatever you pay rent Right. I'm currently three months behind on the rent. What is that? But you are still prioritizing your business that's definitely really going to make money for the first time ever.
1:03:31It will. It definitely will. Can't work. I wouldn't be doing it. Can't be around the mouth breathers. Can't handle the heat in the kitchen.
1:03:46but yeah i think the farm's going fantastic gonna fall on the ground and honestly none of none of us should pick you up and you should have to figure out yeah and you should have to pick yourself up yeah you're not a little victim you're gonna make yourself be you're gonna sound like it you're gonna cry like you are i'm not trying to be a victim no not yet but you're failing you're three months behind rent i am i have failed my guy you're not homeless yet i i was just evicted they tried to evict me because of the stupid contract yeah they evicted me and you guys don't have a good relationship that i don't i don't know what they're honestly trying to get i don't understand the point of evicting me and our child other than just money so they can't be doing that well if they need me to cover all of the bills maybe it's that you broke the contract breaking well the contract was only no we're not hearing written so the lawyer could get additional legal fees.
1:04:44Otherwise, I wouldn't. And like this lease is up in April. I'm not going to sign another lease where they're going to say, oh, if you don't pay, you're going to be, you know, you have to pay all this. Well, they tried and they didn't, it sounds like. Yeah. You're not homeless. I'm not homeless. I'm saying when your next batch that is definitely going to make money doesn't. I have some on the drying rack right now. That's amazing. Just historically based on your entire existence. something's not giving me confidence. I don't know what it is. And DoorDash doesn't bring enough to make in. The fish is probably a waste of time, and it's taking away time that you get actually, and then all of a sudden you can't work, and you're forced to take care of your kid because you can't have them be around other humans.
1:05:29And all of a sudden, it's all going to come crashing down. You can't afford bills. You're going to become in a homeless situation. It doesn't sound like the ex would take care of you anyway. Maybe your ex gets full custody. Who even knows? You're going to hit the ground because you're not willing to change your life and you've fallen down very extremist, just as extremist is like almost an incel, but in the other, in like the spooky COVID world,
1:05:54you're just going to fall and none of us should pick you back up because you just need to find your way back to normalcy. I don't think that's going to happen.
1:06:07I hope it doesn't.
1:06:11i i see you owe 334 000 hours to the irs yeah i can't the minimum over 10 years old so this is currently non-collectible so as long as i don't make more than 10 000 or all of it is non-collectible all of it okay is non-collectible they can't come they can't the only thing they have is a lien on the house that's the but otherwise they're not really you didn't tell me that or did i just not hear that well yeah that's what i was that's why i couldn't sell that because of the federal tax lien well that's pretty substantial yeah that's that's what i meant why i couldn't is they on the title yeah they're yeah they're on the mortgage that's why they were trying to so if it's not even up to you to sell if you even want to like they would have to say yeah they have ultimate say but we have ultimate say well i mean like it's you have ultimate say if they want to and you don't?
1:07:05They could just sell? I'm not totally sure on that one with a marital asset. What's the agreement say? I'm not totally sure, actually. It's just that I get whatever half of the value is when it sells, but half of zero is zero. Because right now with this$300 ,000 lien on it, It would have to sell for almost$500 ,000 for us to get out and be in the green. By the way, non-collectible doesn't mean they're never going to do anything. Right. It just means they're not right now. Right now. Because I'm not making enough money to make the minimum payment. But if your magical thing happens, they're going to want some money.
1:07:47They might, yeah. They probably will. It's a big bill. It's not an insubstantial bill. All right. credit one because you're so good by the way it's the bottom of the barrel of credit cards essentially yeah it's all I could get by the way here let me give you this again I don't think budgeting is your issue but I do like to give every guest one of these founders edition budget your financial write down your financial journey in the budgeting book yes it's signed all that stuff We sign them for, when they sign up for the annual version of the budgeting app, I send them a signed version, but you get one as well.
1:08:34I need you to document the entire process of your finances until you come on the follow-up channel, and then I'm going to read it. Okay. All right. That's what you have to do. So like each step I take to get these things fixed? Everything you do, give me like a weekly review or whatever makes sense for your situation. Okay, so you seemed a little like, well, how did I not pay$42 ,000 in taxes? like you know because because you guys filed quarterly but didn't actually you filed the paperwork you just didn't pay anything yeah and it's because i was spending money on other stuff no i had uh obviously where to go yeah at the time i had the truck i really wanted it was a 2015 silver auto yeah for the real important hauling around a pair of boobs was a good job so i don't know why you need that if only you want to joke that well i'm sure they're impressive if they're making that much money that's okay at the same time i also had uh my dream car it was a 06 yeah i had a truck and a car that were both financed well now you have credit one and now i have credit one so yeah i had my 06 mitsubishi lancer we were living in a 3 000 square foot brick mini mansion in knoxville uh we were well outside of our means and i did not have the money to when i saw like oh i should be paying like 9 000 on this quarterly payment i was like i don't have 9 000 so then i just wouldn't do it uh because i thought it ultimately was just like I'll get a payment for it and take care of it eventually.
1:10:18And that never happened. There was this other thing I got a little into when we were having a good bit of money coming in starting in 2014, this little game called Magic the Gathering. Have you heard of that? Yes. I played competitively for the better part of the last 12 years. not really to the point where I ever made any money by the way I said 1 % earlier and I just wanted to do more work it's.5 % is the death rate globally continue so at the time when I was not paying taxes I was going to my Friday Night Magic every single week and sitting down yeah keep going Yep. And I like to have the best deck in the room.
1:11:15I like to go all in when I do something. So I would build, you know, full foreign, full foil, just different types of stuff. And that ultimately really got to my ex that I would be spending these numbers on magic cards. And the credit credit one card definitely had some magic card purchases. $47 the fees why because you probably didn't make a there it is late fee plus of course your normal annual oh$450 is the credit limit you owe $517 well done really setting your kid up for success I'll get those taken care of soon as soon as I can as soon as you can I have a payment scheduled life has been nothing but a joke what is this as soon as you can you never will based on your track record by the way you never made money your ex did well we made it together like them live streaming was the largest portion but like it wasn't like I was doing nothing on your own a lot of that was from my hard work you never accomplished anything on your own I would like to say my kid is my best accomplishment oh financially shit Oh, you know the show?
1:12:39Yeah. You've never done anything. You've never been successful. I feel like I've had glimpses of success. Six months max, uh-huh, yeah. Oh, you mean from work? Yeah, Magic, it was a little over$100 ,000. The store owner at one point showed me how much I had spent and personally thanked me for keeping the lights on. instead of keeping your own lights on for your kid father of the year ladies and gentlemen well at that point i had much higher income the powerboat wasn't behind then or anything just quick silver right did you have a fully funded emergency fund no then you couldn't afford it by the way i'm just getting some just statistics out there for long covet as we go through this entire situation just so i can try to become more educated on it obviously i appreciate it's very blah blah blah impromptu uh about five percent of people who get officially diagnosed with covid get long covid of course we know the majority of people who get covid are not officially diagnosed with it these days but of those who are and also five percent and of those who get diagnosed with long covid um the vast majority then that long covid only uh exists for max to max of a few months post infection the small minority of the small minority of the small minority have it for a year there there's people that have been constantly hospitalized with it people there's people who've experienced everything there are people that will walk outside right now and get hit by a car do i destroy my entire life for it no i don't plan in traffic either.
1:14:26There are people who get on a plane and it crashes. Doesn't mean you didn't get on a plane to come here. Yeah, true. Oh my gosh, I actually may have made a break there. Who would have thought? $543.02. Well, this one was just to diversify my credit portfolio at the time. Oh, you real diversified it above the credit limit. Yeah, that's... I didn't mean to do that. I had them all below the limit. Well, you're not making a fucking payment. so you didn't mean to do it. Fuck you. Well, the late fees and payments have put them over the limit. No shit. All below there. Because you're not paying on time.
1:15:00What do you think would happen? Dude, you're a dumbass. Of course, that is your choice. Still, you still spent$224 going out to eat and then miscellaneous bullsh** things that don't matter. It could be video games. It could be whatever we're about to find out. As an additional$212, you could have made your payment. It's$130. Fuck you. This is a choice. Irresponsible. You're a child adult. You're a child adult. you're a child adult you look like john green but you're a moron i don't even know who that is yeah well this this is the quicksilver card uh well this was this was used right after the divorce uh when i was looking for work and couldn't get any help from the government um because i was still on my wife's finances couldn't get any help from the government hasn't pay taxes for a decade who the do you think you are to get help you didn't put into the pile
1:15:58yeah nothing to say to that oh yeah yeah yeah this was mostly for for food at the time um just getting by to do what i could
1:16:13wonderful yeah you spent 500 on both minimum on what i told you it was like 250 on going out to eat another 250 and miscellaneous bull yeah 130 to be caught up on your minimum payment on this then it would have been about 40 bucks a month after that yeah you that's going back to the divorce oh wow poor me i was just trying to eat sure in that situation look where you are now You spent$500 on bullsh** minimum. Minimum. Minimum. You could have paid$130. Shut the f**k up. Shut the f**k up. There is no defensible thing you could possibly say to that. There is no need to be a moron to that. It is not required.
1:16:49Shut the f**k up. It would normally be$40. Yeah, I just didn't have the money to pay it. No, I have an itch in my nose. Maybe I should spray a random spray up there.
1:17:00Yeah, fees bullsh**. Pass due. 30 % interest rate. Moronic. I wouldn't even recommend the Fizz card to you. Debit card that builds credit. That's for the audience. Not for you. I wouldn't trust you with it. I wouldn't. And, nah. Again, this is nothing like the budgeting app. We get something like 1 ,000 signups for the premium a day. It's pretty cool. People are actually changing their lives out there, taking control of their money. That's good. You couldn't do it. regular capital one you will see I will get there you have 34 years to do it and you're in the worst position I've ever seen on this show practically because of your IRS this is a f***ing your hammer financial score I mean you have a lien on your house so it's gonna be a zero like you have nothing going for you it's not even my house technically you're not on the title no oh no I'm not not on no my name oh for f***s sake so selling the house What about your iron?
1:18:06What? There is no selling your house. You don't have a house. No, I'm selling the marital home, I mean. Like, well. The marital home. There is no marriage. There was. They have a house. Yeah, that I'm currently three months behind on rent. Rent. You're a tenant. You don't have a house. Oh, me. What is this? What is this? Oh, capital one. $374.84. Minimum monthly payment, 112, probably normally 40. But guess what? We didn't pay. We're all surprised. Late fees. Interest charge. What a joke. What a fucking joke. 31 % interest. Oh, what is this? Consumer energy? I remember that from up there. oh yeah we still owe$8 ,297 why don't you just do anything right ever I have tried to pay this down but the fees and stuff are just getting kind of ridiculous which you deserve because you got into that utility companies sometimes they do over people you yourself over you deserve this I don't think so I don't think so look at your entire track record in how you go about life.
1:19:33No, I don't believe for a single second you're a victim in anything. You've put yourself in these situations. My gosh. I've tried to get that resolved. This was from 2023 when I was using the marital home to operate the farm. The electric bill I averaged was like$1 ,600 a month. Yeah, so don't have that home then. That seems like the best way forward. If you can't afford the street you get into, don't get into it. your dumb tip and get out of it if you have to i can't there's a lien blah blah blah i think getting out of stuff has been my one of the harder things in my life you know the equity position in the home uh yes yeah what so currently it's the market is 290 and we owe 120 well they owe 124 000 but obviously if with the lien pay off the debt the irs debt that means you're in the clear to.
1:20:30Do they have any attention or desire to? Do you know? To pay off the debt? Yes. No. Nor the ability. Do they make good money anymore? I don't think so. I don't think they're making anywhere. These aren't making the money? I mean, porn stars kind of go right? Sometimes. Some get way more successful. I haven't studied the field personally.
1:20:57Not even on a monthly payment for this? I was, but they needed$1 ,400 a month for it for the minimum payment. So I can't afford that currently. Of course, it's just your income combined for your very successful businesses. How many employees do you have in this bullshit? Just one. And then another person that I don't. You made it sound like so much more substantial earlier. Well, I can't afford more. Listen, I'm going to gift you a course career certification in accounting. hopefully that at least helps with your businesses but I would honestly just abandon these and just go work a f***ing job if you're able to operate in a room with people but you're not able to so you probably can't get a job so you're probably f***ing oh my f***ing again I think this situation's unfixable because you're not able to operate like a human and because of that the situation's broken $93 ,000 on a checking account oh ATM withdraw Where'd I go?
1:21:59Subway. Called it. Taco Bell. Amazon Prime. PayPal and out. Went inside, got some bull. eBay. Taco Bell. Taco Bell. Subscription. PayPal and out. Blizzard. Donald's. Netflix. Taco Bell. Great use of resources. Garbage. It's all garbage. Yes, it is. Great use of resources when you're completely f***ed and destroying And I'm paying 31 % interest on a credit card. A UO 334 to the IRS. Credit cards are the least of my concern. Taco Bell, McDonald's, Shopify, Meijer. But it's cheap Meijer, so it's not groceries probably. Taco Bell, Taco Bell. Cash app, Taco Bell, Taco Bell. What the f*** is your obsession with Taco Bell?
1:22:49My kid loves the three cheese chicken flatbread. They're$2.49. Okay. And they just love it. So most of them are just. so it's scary she gets a cold but it's good to shove fast food down her throat
1:23:03at the end of the world it's good to live a little but you won't let him go outside or interact with humans they go to gymnastics every week just cool they get to see people once a week
1:23:30I don't know I just feel bad for the kid Oh you spent money on an OF What are you trying to see the old pair? No a different friend Friend? Yeah someone we work with. What? No, it's a real life friend. PayPal and I'll why the f*** are you giving them money then? Wait. Wait. To see them naked. Oh, on well, it's not a lot of money. Huh? It's not a lot of money on there. Buddy, you have no money. You only have debt. You're a joke. I like to be supportive of my friends. Yeah, maybe support your f***ing kid. Taco Bell. Taco Bell. Uh, I don't know. $85 to whatever. PayPal out. Amazon. Taco Bell. Another subscription on Netflix.
1:24:18Blizzard. Wait, this looks like a repeat. But it's not. No, it's just a different time frame. Taco Bell, Taco Bell, Blizzard. I think it's just another month during the same exact bullshit. And no retirement. Because we're$34. Buddy, this isn't a budget conversation. Why the f*** waste my time making a budget? I don't get it. It doesn't make sense. You don't make enough money to be able to do budget. What's your rent to them? The$13.51. on yeah you don't make enough money like this isn't i this isn't something i can make a budget for that's not how this works i will be i'm just i haven't been there yet 34 years of that being there yet all of a sudden magically gonna start happening it's not magically i've been doing hard work for years to get my farm prepared you work 20 hours a week you're a you don't know
1:25:07that's not what has to change the budget isn't what has to change yes you should cut down on You're spending a bull. That's not going to make a dent in the IRS, honestly. Yeah, right. That was my thinking also. Yeah, so you may as well just. It's not going to make a dent. Well, it will make it worse. So, yes, you're supposed to cut back on saving. But, again, that is not the biggest thing at play here. Your worldview is. I'm not saying if you are immune compromised or fat or whatever, you shouldn't be afraid of certain things. I'm not saying that. More likely than I, of course. i'm not in any extremist camp i try to be as objective as possible and just go off of what data exists you're not able to operate in society meaning i can't give you a budget that is in society there is nothing that can be done here unless you actually join us and like the world like i don't know you're in your own world and you're scared and i can respect the feeling of being scared as someone who gets anxious very easily i can at least respect that um i hope there's a time where i can but you've developed a phobia yeah yeah definitely but that phobia is preventing you from existing or giving your kid a life or being able to prepare yourself for the future or your kid for the future but even if i make these changes my kids are not going to make those changes because their mother's not going to make those changes so
1:26:36and that's beyond the scope of me yeah i just had i have just door dashed in the farm currently that's that's my my goal there's no budget in here man i have a i filled this out on my phone even to like i filled all of my stuff and it probably says you spend more than you make no i can show it to you if you'd like i filled it you spent like almost four thousand well i mean what's coming in like so i can prepare for when i am making money so i can set things aside what are you gonna make in this magical world if everything goes right okay so everything going right so let's do you have a calculator i can can i borrow this okay uh let's it's about 250 a day is what this this will transfer so i'm 10 an hour 24 hours a day without me working gross well or if you want to cut it to a 10 hour day 24 i'm saying what does it make net daily profit yeah that's my profit 250 a day is what my profit will be as of april as of something that hasn't this this coming up it's happening now like the plants are there i don't know how else to explain that like it yeah it is you still have to move the inventory.
1:27:51That's not the hard part. I have fantastic patience. That is not the hard part. The hard part has been having enough space to grow enough stuff to take care of this mountain of debt. $250 a day for how long? Every single day. Forever. And yes. And that's the minimum. So you're making 91 ,000 hours a year. Yes. That is the projected from just my portion after paying all of the bills and employees. $7 ,604. Cool. Catch up on rent. Pay off your debt. There you go. Congratulations. I don't know what. That's... I just don't believe you. You don't have a track record. You can't. You can't because you don't have a track record.
1:28:34I can't until I do it. Yes. And if you do do it, I will give you the biggest high five in the world. And I will celebrate with you. I will look forward to that day. But your track record makes you a not reliable narrator on anything regarding money. You've been working on things forever you made plans for taxes for five years and never did anything i can't believe you and you have to at least be able to recognize that yeah i recognize your position i don't care like this isn't i just feel bad for you i feel bad for your life i feel bad for your kid's life i feel bad for your ex whatever's life i feel bad for their new person's life i feel bad of i feel bad for anyone no matter the extreme they have fallen down i feel bad for anyone's phobias phobias are inherently irrational i have a phobia of flying it's your reaction it's irrational it does but luckily i'm still able to live life you're not you're falling behind and dying and your hammer financial score is zero i just feel bad for you and i hope you get the mental health help that you need because you've fallen down a dark hole unfortunately you're dragging a child down with you.
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1:30:17I'll see you in the post show. Bye-bye. Oh, my f***. So you're f***ing over people in your lives. No, I'm not trying to. I'm here with Caleb how you've taken investments from people. Don't you f*** there. I can give good advice. Really? Because I've learned. You have three maxed out credit cards over maxed out IRS debt in the six. Oh, okay. F*** off. Just f***. To watch the Financial Audit post show, click the join button below.
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