Financial Audit’s Final Boss

14 Oct 2024 · 1 h 56 min

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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title

Financial Audit’s Final Boss

Episode Description

The episode features personal finance expert Caleb Hammer conducting an in-depth audit of a couple's financial situation, highlighting their poor spending habits and overwhelming debt. This episode serves as a wake-up call for the couple, emphasizing the need for better financial management and planning.

Key Themes and Discussions

Introduction

  • Caleb introduces the couple, Rosa and Sam, and highlights the staggering amount of paperwork representing their financial situation.
  • They reflect on how they accumulated a significant amount of debt over the last few years and their struggles with budgeting.

Background of the Couple

  • Ages: Rosa (26), Sam (27)
  • Children: They have two children aged 8 and 1.
  • Employment: Rosa works in sales for a diabetes company, and Sam is a correctional officer.

Financial Challenges

  • Debt Accumulation:
  • They initially had some debt before moving into their home but accumulated much more due to living expenses and poor financial decisions.
  • They have around $80,000 of debt excluding their mortgage.
  • Income and Spending:
  • Their combined income is approximately $6,500 monthly, but they often spend beyond their means.
  • Their spending includes significant amounts on dining out and entertainment, often exceeding their income.

Mismanagement of Finances

  • Lack of Budgeting: The couple does not have a clear budget and often spends impulsively, leading to overdraft fees.
  • Credit Card Misuse: They have multiple credit cards with high-interest rates and often exceed their limits.
  • Emergency Fund: They lack an emergency fund, making them vulnerable to financial crises.

Reflection on Spending Habits

  • Caleb emphasizes that the couple's financial struggles stem from their spending habits, particularly on non-essential items.
  • They reflect on their "birthday month" spending and how it has contributed to their financial problems.

Key Financial Insights

  • Total Debt: Approximately $80,000 (excluding mortgage).
  • Monthly Minimum Payments: Totaling about $2,918, which leaves little room for savings or investment.
  • Emergency Fund: Non-existent, which is critical for financial stability.
  • Spending Analysis: They spent over $15,000 in a recent month, significantly more than their income.

Recommendations

  • Seek Financial Education: Caleb encourages the couple to utilize budgeting and investing resources to take control of their finances.
  • Consider Professional Help: Suggests booking a free strategy session with a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) to devise a workable financial plan.
  • Focus on Reducing Debt: Emphasizes the need to prioritize paying down debt rather than accumulating more.

Conclusion

  • The couple's financial score from Caleb is low, indicating they are in a precarious situation.
  • They need to take immediate action by understanding their financial situation, adhering to a strict budget, and potentially seeking additional income through part-time work.
  • Caleb urges the couple to engage with financial literacy resources, especially considering upcoming life changes and the need to secure their family's financial future.

Call to Action

  • Viewers are encouraged to check out the budgeting and investing classes offered by Caleb, along with links to financial resources for better management of personal finances.

Key Takeaways

  • Awareness: Understanding the full scope of one's financial situation is crucial for making informed decisions.
  • Budgeting: A clear and realistic budget is necessary to curb impulsive spending and manage debt effectively.
  • Emergency Planning: Establishing an emergency fund can prevent financial disasters and provide peace of mind.
  • Education and Support: Utilizing financial education resources and seeking professional help can lead to improved financial health over time.

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2:20We just had clothes. Okay. Welcome to how everyone moves in. I know, but like we didn't, we didn't think of anything. Hey, I did that. They did that. We don't have this. I know it's bad. So like, figure it out. Yeah. We had applied for the house in August of 2020 and then we were moved in like November. What's applied for the house? Is this a rental? Is this a mortgage? No, it's a mortgage. Mortgage. We took out a mortgage. Yeah. We took out a mortgage. We couldn't afford furniture. So I assume we didn't have an emergency fund. No. We took out a mortgage without having an emergency fund? But we had moved in with only$100.

2:51Like, that's how much we had to pay to move in. And then they were like, it's going to be$1 ,100. And then two years later. What's pay to move in? What are you saying pay to move in? Like, the closing costs. Like, we only paid$100. Oh, you thought our closing costs would be$100? I mean, if it was a special program. No, it was$100. That's what I'm saying. It was$100. Oh, so it was a special program. Yeah, like, we didn't pay that much. And then it was going to be$1 ,100. So we paid$1 ,100 for the first year. Wait. When did you guys get this house? during covid so 2020 okay so you got a great rate yeah when have you guys were you guys married yeah yes so you guys have been married for a while yeah yes yeah okay did any of this debt like stack of debt exists before then um maybe just a little bit maybe like five to ten thousand but the majority of it was once we had moved in just a little bit ten thousand yeah it wasn't that bad but so we had moved in it was supposed to be 1100 and then the next year they moved it up to 1600 next year they moved it up to 1900 the mortgage itself what property taxes yes yeah welcome to the taxes yeah so it we didn't do any hold on why do i do not apply for homestead i just did like last month so i'm supposed to get a refund for this year and then two years before that but i didn't know there you go oh yeah now but during the time why would you buy a home without being informed what it takes to buy a home in texas just family situation move out be on your own what's family situation um well so my dad he was paying for his house it was supposed to be my house but my mom ended up just staying there so i didn't want to live with my mom for our entire adulthood we already had a kid i had gotten pregnant when i was 16 um so we were already By you?

4:3419. Yes. Yes. So, 19. I was 17 when I had her. Okay. Yeah. You were 19, right? I think so. Yeah, I think so. We have like a two-year difference. Twitter won't like that. Yeah, I know. I was just thinking about that. Okay. So, we kind of just moved in. No help. No, nothing. How many kids do we have? Two. We have two. Ages? Eight. Eight and two. Eight and... No, eight and one. Basically two. Yeah, they're both turning ages in November. Okay, so, wow, one very young kid. Yeah. First one, assuming whoopsie, 16, typically would be. Was the most recent one whoopsie or planned? Kind of planned. With this?

5:19Yeah. With this? All that. Mind you, for what it's worth, just about this much is like checking account and slight retirement. maybe like this much meaning this all is debt yeah okay so we moved in a house we didn't have that money that much money so over the course of the next few years so you just guys just around what are we doing because okay cool we move in you know we don't have as much money we make a mistake course correct course correct get the emergency fund don't spend money we don't have don't around make sure we're prepared to take care of the kid that already exists and take care of the kid that's coming in yeah obviously that is not what happened so what happened it wasn't the house that you got you into this what happened because this has been four years so so we weren't paying that much with my dad because we were living with family beforehand so we kind of moved in paying 1200 1300 and we were in school so we had got the house november fifth keep blaming the house it's been four years no but i'm saying okay so then we graduated and then i lost my job i lost my job three weeks after we got the house it was technical support okay it was a work from home so i lost that um so i didn't have a job for like a few months and then i did get a job that's why we have emergency yeah and then you had lost your job too what did you lose customer service yeah it was for the same company okay so it sounds like the company is probably downsizing yeah some issues okay so customer service jobs you know you can go get a lower paying customer service job if necessary to at least cover some time it's not like it's a walk in the door and get it i think but we can start applying right the day of we can start getting in the industry yeah and either way this is not a couple months no mistakes and then he just got his job again because he had lost his job for another while um he went back to amazon for a couple of months and then they changed their pay rate so it was a huge decrease in in pay going back to amazon so i think i think we're okay right now job wise but we just have a lot of stuff to pay yeah so now we're kind of having a backtrack and um i guess because i got a better job now too so i think we're good job wise but now we're just having to pay off everything happening from the four years.

7:47So what are these jobs? And we'll start with you, Risa. What do you do? Again, 26 years old. So I work in sales for a diabetes company. Sales? Oh, are we selling diabetes or prevention? It's an insulin device. Yeah, it's an insulin device. So I just moved to that job. America, you're in the right place. Yeah, in March. So it was mainly the same hour because I've been with them for a couple of years already, but now they have bonuses. so that's where the increase what would you say comes in on a monthly basis um so i make 21 84 an hour how many hours a week um about 42 and then what's this bonus structure um it's quarterly so last bonus was about 3500 wow that's actually great yeah and then so we can add about a thousand bucks a month yeah but i so that one was in august that was my first bonus check but i think my next one which is november 3rd i believe that one's going to be probably like a thousand maybe oh why i i it's just the way our quotas work unfortunately but it's it we're i'm supposed to be aiming for about 3 000 but it was just a bad quote i had your payroll have 7 781 but was 3 000 so what is it normally without the bonus um probably 1500 bi-weekly okay so 3 000 i'm gonna call it 3 500 okay you know just doing the bonus yeah yeah all right and then you sam what do you do 27 years old i work in correctional institutional and i am an officer okay um and basically i would say i make about close to what she makes about 1500 a month i think it's he said she whoa a month she said per paycheck per paycheck well he's by monthly i'm by monthly yeah yeah i had you hit wait by monthly okay yes so like the 15th and the 30th yeah yeah yeah i had you hit 1446 that's one check that's one okay so we only had one check within the time of that statement yes oh this is new yeah trust me i got so many questions i want to ask you about this job and i'm going to save that for the post show or we just talk about all the stupid stuff.

9:59If you guys want to join that and watch all the extra stuff we have going on. It's in the description, by the way. It's fun to talk about all that stupid stuff. Okay. I've never talked to someone who's worked in corrections. I have a lot of questions. Okay. I want to see where we think we are. Again, we need to get in this paperwork. We're going to be here until tomorrow. I'm going to go 3, 2, 1, go. On go, i want you guys to give me at the same time where you think your household financial score is 10 being the best it can possibly be zero being the worst it can possibly be so three two one five okay three thinking we're you think we're like doing solid down the middle even though again we see the stack of this paperwork in front of me you think you're a little lower than that yeah why does your husband think you guys are doing solid straight down the middle um because he doesn't really handle the finances at all or i guess like maybe like 15 ish percent so how do you handle 15 of the finances like we have like a joint account so he just gets paid and then i just pay everything but why don't you deal with anything finances because i feel like i would make more mistakes than she would make doesn't you want to be informed of what's going on for the household i do want to be informed of what's going on the household at the same time i feel like she's really good with numbers punching them i feel like it'll get to me and i'll stress myself out with the numbers tell me how much debt you have i'm not too sure go ahead go ahead give me your best guess

11:3920 ish 20k so not including mortgage okay which is fine so not including mortgage yes well the cartoon yeah hold that 30 okay yeah about 80 about 80 way off so that's kind of terrifying yes it is i have been telling that you don't even know you don't even think you're 50 of where you are no how do we get to places how do we get to a goal a financial goal life goal retirement goals things we want to family goals how do we get there as a couple if we don't even know how much where even what ballpark our debt is how do we get to a goal together how do we do this as a partnership how so i think that's where the majority of this came from was i feel like i i was trusted with everything and then i felt like i kind of like does how'd you just like okay you want to go here like let's go here oh i don't feel like cooking like let's just go out to why are you allowing us like i i just i think i felt like i lost control which is why i had applied in the first place but when when i was thinking about applying i was telling him you know like hey this is how much like i feel like i am losing control over things Why have you allowed her to lose control?

13:05She has been asking me for help. And I've been gradually trying to make that effort to help her with some of that. What does that look like? Basically just keeping up with the numbers, keeping track of them. Buddy, you thought your debt was$20 ,000, then$30 ,000. That's$80 ,000. Outside of the mortgage. How much is your mortgage? Your total balance. Total balance. How much do you owe on the house? No, no. How much do you owe on the house? I would say about$30 ,000 to$40 ,000. thousand on the house you owe 213 000 on the house is not on a monthly basis no what you think you pay 30 000 a month towards the house whoa like how much do we pay monthly for the hold on hold no hold on i need to be very clear you don't think you pay 30 000 a month to this house it's like five i think we only almost bring in like four to five oh my okay we're starting from scratch yeah we are starting this is like yeah so it's been so we we've always been like we've been together for like 10 years already so we came from like high school to adulthood together and i just he's never been good with numbers so i've just never like okay you get paid all right we did this all right we'll do this like During school, we were getting paid.

14:27We did work-study. We were kind of just going with the flow, bringing in money, paying things, and then the debt just started getting really bad. Are any of the prisoners going to see this? No. When they get out and they see this, are they going to come after me because I bullied their favorite correctional officer? You should be good. You should be good. Okay. Okay. It's a lot. Your answers scare me And then your answers of the person Who is running this whole thing But is throwing it down the drain scares me Do we have a goal? Do we have a singular goal? Getting a positive That's what your guys are aligned on?

15:10Get on the negative My goal because I'm 26 I just turned 26 in August So I do want to kind of get rid of The credit card debt By 30 because I feel like I made a lot of mistakes Yeah, it's aligned on that. Yeah, I mean, the spending comes from me. Like, he doesn't spend anything. You don't spend anything. He spends nothing. He does gas for the week. You know, I have his spending accounts. No, that's mine. I have cards with his name on it. Yeah, they're mine. You're spending on his cards? Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying. Do you even know this is happening? Yes, I do know about that. And you're okay with this?

15:43Yeah, those are mine. Why? Because I feel like she's making pretty reasonable decisions because she wouldn't be spending if she didn't need to spend on certain things. Okay, to be clear, this is, again, the biggest stack of paperwork I've ever seen. You spend$640 going out to eat. $2 ,262 on miscellaneous. It can be video games or it could be stopping for a hobby. That's half of what you bring in. Guys. Guys. Okay, it's reasonable. That's what I just heard. It's reasonable. we know what comes in non-bonus month both of you combined we're seeing about 6 500 yeah actually that is taking account the bonus spread out yeah 6 500 okay uh why don't you tell me how much was spent last month it was my birthday month so probably like ten thousand dollars everyone has a birthday month why who gives a also 26 not even a notable birthday it's a nothing birthday It is.

16:43It's like your first birthday with the second chapter of your life. Second chapter? What are you doing? Yeah, like one through 25 and then 26. Okay, nothing changed. Okay, well, it was probably like$10 ,000. How much did you spend this last month? How much was it spent? Probably about to 10. Okay, and you find that to be reasonable. Again, 6 ,500 comes in. You find 10 to be reasonable? Birthday month. You're aligned with this birthday month thing. It was her birthday. Her birthday. What am I giving her about her birthday? You know who's birthday? It's about to be the two-year-old. And guess what?

17:14That two-year-old is going to grow up and have to take care of their parents because their parents never saved up for retirement. That's another 10 for the kid. Huh? That's another 10 for the kid. Basically every birthday. Their birthdays are a day apart. So it's one day. You guys haven't even given up what I just said. Yeah. Because of your birthday month, your special little 26-year-old and having barely anything in full retirement. Is this funny? Is this comedic? No, sir. Your kid is going to have to put their life on hold to take care of his or her irresponsible parents because they thought this was funny.

17:49Well, that's why we're here. He's laughing. He's giggling his way through it. That's like, I don't know. It's eye opening for me. Yeah. It's eye opening. He's in shock. Guys, you spent$15 ,262.61. You bring in$6 ,500. In what world is that considered acceptable? Half of what was brought in was spent on bulls**t. Well, that doesn't even matter because you spent more than double what was brought in. More than double. Negative. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Pretty bad. Oh, but we're a five or a three out of ten. that makes sense let's start this if you want your hammer financial score it's free link in the description below if you want to be on the show and give me a stack of paperwork go to calebhammer.com slash apply okay okay you guys have college degrees it sounds like because i heard graduate yeah okay what's your degree in um criminal and education so we are kind of working in the field okay very cool what about you Criminology and psychology.

19:08Okay, you're not working in the fields. All right. Okay, this is a joint card. American Express. Is that the gold one? Cash magnet. Oh, okay. That's the blue one. Yeah. Yeah, it's blue colored. Yeah, that's like one of our dailies. Is that how we're designating what we're spending on? What color the card is? Yeah, the blue one or the gold one is usually like our dailies. Your dailies? guys you spent on half these cards and there's only about a thousand of them five thousand fourteen dollars listen that should just most people come on this show and i talk about one or two or three cards in that balance range this is just the first out of like a trillion billion of these cards credit limit five thousand credit limit five thousand credit limit five thousand It ended up sitting at$5 ,014.41 with$140 minimum monthly payment.

20:09Okay. Okay. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's not like we have two kids. One's about to turn two. No, who really gets it? Oh, good. So you paid off some money. You started. You started above the credit limit. Then we put money towards it. But then you charged to the card$3 ,305.53. Daily spending. daily spending what kind of daily spending are we allowed to do 90 and 89 cents of interest accruing if you are above the credit limit daily spending why do you think you guys can daily spend on a card like this in what world do you think that is okay i don't like using my debit card why you don't have money you're putting it on you're going above the credit limit why don't you like spending your debit card it's just it's just like a sucky bank like i don't bank how about this is sucking your money from you it's losing 90.89 cents in interest in a month yeah so don't give a fuck if it's a bank what's your bank it's like a international bank what's your bank international bank of commerce yeah but i've had it since i was like 12 so okay walk into chase and open a bank account it takes three seconds instead of throwing our life away on a credit card i don't get it yeah it's just a sucky bank like i really i can't use it too many places just be you have two kids being an adult walking to any bank it's so easy yeah and so this is it's 10 minutes of your time yeah 10 minutes of your time if your entire excuse for up your life is i have a crappy bank yeah that's on the next steps that's next steps that was next step at 18 just because i have like a lot of like you know how you have to change the account and routing number for like well there's just a lot but i'll get it done i'll get it done it's tragic i'll get it done tragic first of all you're gonna cancel all these cards you don't have to worry about that anyway figure you don't even give a yeah we figured well what the f*** did you think you guys have more credit cards than anyone in the history of the world has ever had credit cards it's it's that's where we start where we start i don't give a s*** about your credit score it's already one of you has a 500 something credit score it's like 600 for the both of us I have different in here Oh I thought it was like$5.99 Nope Or$600 Nope Netflix, Painting with a Twist Oh great guys this is great For my birthday Your birthday It's 26 Is that the rental car age Other than that nothing else even matters 26 is nothing It's nothing Congratulations you're getting older How about you take care of your shit so that when you get older even more, you have a chance to retire?

22:52How about that? I think that's okay. Maybe that's important. Silver Sub, Community Arena Management, Spurs. It wasn't a game. $360? Like a concert makes it better? It was a concert. Who'd we see? Future and Metro Boomin. So future is more important than your kid having any chance at living a financially sound life. No. So future is more important than, you know, maybe your house ends up being foreclosed on. And your kid has to figure out. He's not. Future is more important. I don't know. That's what your actions are showing. Frozen treats. Sweet treats are more important. Tequila. I can never say that word.

23:41But it's$50.33. cents little caesars silver river sub more important i think that was a taqueria is that the one yes taqueria yeah mexican i could never say that okay 800 hours in interest this year on one card one of the mini million cards we're about to look at alta we have an alta card yeah for sake it's a master card though so i really oh Oh, guys, it's okay. No, I'm just saying it's not all. I really don't shop at Ulta that much. So where you get probably the biggest rewards, that's not the place for using it. Sweet. Yeah. I messed up opening that card. All right. Well, let's get real for a second.

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26:18So get started with Relay today. I think we messed up a lot. That one was a recent card. Like the American Express, I think we've had it for like two years already. When did you get this? Probably like, maybe like eight months ago. Why are you opening cards? It was like eight months ago. But you already had a stack of credit cards. So what made you think open? Hold on. Hold on. I want to know what actually, when you opened this, what was going through your head? Because you already had a stack of credit cards. Well, because I was getting like my perfumes and stuff, you know, just like. Yes. It's a regular, right?

26:50So then they're like, oh, do you want to open this card? And you're going to save 20%. Oh, you're too impressionable. And then I was like, no, like, it's okay. I'm good. And she was like, well, you're going to save$60. You're the easiest person to sell to. Guess what? you probably lost$60 this month in interest. If I look. Yeah, it was. Oh,$108. Yeah, I think I was saving like 60 bucks. And then I was like, oh, it's all done. As well, you know. It's all gone now. I do regret that one. Hold on. These purchases. What is this?

27:20They were. What is this? They were supposed to cut that. They were supposed to cut that. $660. Oh, they were? They were supposed to cut that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, we bleeped it and cut it on screen. What the f*** is this? So I learned a trick that's like a really, really bad trick, which you're probably going to see in a lot of the statements. So when I am basically like overdraft on my bank account, on my regular bank account, even if I'm a penny, they'll charge me$35. Even if it's a dollar overdraft. so if I'm overdraft on my card I'll basically transfer money from my PayPal to his PayPal and then it goes into the bank account because we have a joint bank account so I'm basically transferring money from a credit card into the bank account does that make sense?

28:16it does but you think this is actually saving you money because again$108.66 of interest also little fun fact you owe$5 ,286 yeah there's a credit limit of$3 ,700 so f*** you yeah that one was for the house when the house payment came out used a credit card essentially for the house payment basically when can we not afford a mortgage when we're using a credit card to pay for it or also maybe we don't spend half of our income on literal bull so why was bull more important than a mortgage guys why was it I think just the spending got out of control oh no it's probably because it was birthday month my special little birthday 26 the one that no one will forget yeah when I have a birthday day month what and then we just have 11 normal months oh my gosh child child I'm sorry that's what a child does that's what your 8 year old gets excited about no one gives a f*** you turn 26 no one cares okay I'm sorry when you're dying in debt no one gives a f*** it's like a leo issue like a leo oh shut up i it is i swear it is it is my dude the patterns in the sky literally a hundred thousand years from now are going to be completely different because the path of the earth and the galaxy has moved from where it is on the path yeah none of that means anything just because you're a dumb with money doesn't mean you have to be a dumb in life yeah leo what's your sign i don't give a i'm an aquarius congratulations i was just curious on your sign i don't know because it means nothing because astrology is real i don't believe in it too much but i just like the sign part just a sign part like i'm not like oh like it said that i'm having a bad day so i'm gonna have a bad day today but it just like when i meet somebody i guess i don't know what aquarius i'm being told oh y 'all are probably close in birthdays astrology that's not helping hold on what is this hold on now now i'm getting my terms mixed up astronomy is real that's what I tried to say oh you did say astrology I did just because I deal with so many people that believe in that crap astronomy is real not astrology yeah I don't believe in it like that but I just like to know the sign just curious you literally just blamed this on you being a f***ing Leo I did you did you did do that You did do that.

31:34So this little naughty thing. I don't think we're doing that anymore. I think we're budgeting. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Like I'll take them off of PayPal. I don't care if you're not a part of the finances and all that good stuff. I don't care. You guys are going to sit down. You're going to go through our budgeting program. You're going to take all the quizzes, take all the education together. You're going to do the investing one as well because I see there are a couple retirements at the end of this. So you guys are going to do that together. go through them take the coursework learn actually improve your lives you get it for free for being on this show this show these people have to pay for it to take advantage of the program 50 discount link in the description below bundled but you guys get it for free so just take advantage of it and actually learn something i agree budget together i agree to avoid the birthday stuff yeah to avoid the birthday stuff especially with like holidays and stuff coming up like i I want to figure out all this stuff.

32:30Oh, no. No, it's okay. It was$8 at all. I thought that was$650. And I actually returned some stuff because I did get it for my birthday month and I returned it. I returned it. Yeah. Progress. Nope. She just didn't like it. No, I returned it because I felt bad about like birthday and stuff. Yeah. I want people to feel an immense amount of guilt, but you might need to. Yeah. I actually learned a trick. I don't know if you want me to share it right now, but I learned a trick. trick was borderline so let's hear this recently so i used to watch tiktok when i'm at work because i work from home so i used to just like scroll productive but i feel like i feel like tiktok came like like now they're just shopping you know there's an ad for something and then you see it and then it's like another ad another ad another ad people need to make money right which i understand um but me personally i can't see something like that because i feel like it programs me like i need it i need it so is your trick you deleted tiktok um i'm actually watching your show at at work because they're like an hour and a half so i've just been watching like i can even show you my feed i've just been watching like 20 something tells me this one's gonna be longer than that um yeah so i've and it's been helping because i'm like dang like i didn't think that it was that bad just getting like food or something but then when i see you getting mad at people it's like well you're spending 20 dollars and then you're spending 20 dollars like the next week and the next week and then that's that's a hundred dollars in a month and that could have paid off a card but people don't choose to pay off the card and i felt like i was in the same boat as well so i've just been like binge watching your shows when i'm at work and it's been helping well i appreciate that sloppy toppy is not going to get you anywhere but i do appreciate that no no but it's been helping because i feel like tiktok turned into like like when they added the shop like it's just all like i mean everybody has to make money i get it you know but it's just when did you just start watching um like two weeks ago okay well which is reflected in these statements if i'm not mistaken no because we're in september these are all august these are all august yeah my birthday month yeah my birthday month birthday month oh i know well and then it was back to school too so i know i spent like a good amount for back to school as well how much was the necessities like four hundred dollars yeah because she's grown she's grown a lot our oldest and then school supplies and then we moved her school so then we had to buy school supplies again because they didn't want to give us the school supplies back so what they can do that yeah i I mean, yeah.

34:51I didn't know. Yeah, let's keep going. Guys,$691 of interest on this card. So now we're over$1 ,000 of interest already this year. And again, we're two cards in. 31.24 % interest. It's insane. Rosa. Oh, that's you. Sorry. What card is this? Pink? Oh, Victoria's Secret. I've had that one since I was 18. Looking nice for him. Yeah. I've had that one since I was 18. Okay. And I usually don't carry a balance. I think that one might have been paid off already. Like this month. Well, no interest accrued, meaning I think it would have been paid off. Yeah. But that still doesn't excuse the spending. The spending, because you had to pay off this card, and that money could have been put somewhere else.

35:35Agreed. And it's Victoria's Secret, marketing, ballet, bralette, bras, sleep bottom lingerie, sleep bottom lingerie, W first layer top W first layer top I didn't know they showed what I bought Bralette bras sleep bottom lingerie Victoria C We got another Bralette bras Bralette bras Marketing PCB Victoria's Secret NC Victoria's Ohio That's online Victoria's Secret pink bralette bras VS Pink sleep bottoms lingerie That is so creepy I didn't know they showed that I thought it would just say Victoria's Secret. Probably should have kept that off. All the little gooners out there in the audience are freaking out right now.

36:22That is crazy. And then more Victoria's Secret. Probably things we didn't need, I'm guessing. Something tells me you probably had lingerie already. Something tells you you probably already had things to wear on the bottoms. It was my birthday month. Okay. If you say that again, I am going to have him slap you. Okay. because you never slap another man's woman in front of them that's what they say and she is your wife i contend those were jokes i want to be clear i'm i'm i'm doing a little too hard right now i'm sorry okay okay you're good you're good okay you're good i can't i can't i'm sorry i can't it's a lot it's a lot okay let's move on card at one yeah i made a really bad joke and i don't know if it's in the episode i'll allow you guys to we don't care i don't care trust me it's not about oh we can we consent we have fun around but like the internet the internet's favorite pastime is to be offended on other people's behalf so 1 000 effects yeah seven thousand seven hundred twenty five dollars and one cent hold on here with the 700 credit limit for every card except the victoria's secret we're above the credit limit yeah we're above it again and it's credit one if we see credit one that's like the worst credit card you can get i didn't it's legitimately the worst didn't know that i'm sure there's worse but it's pretty much the standard like bottom of the barrel when we purchasing a thousand thirty nine dollars on here i think that was the same trick that i was talking about like when my checking would be negative but on credit one do you know what credit one does look you're getting fees eight dollars twenty five cents then interest eleven dollars and sixteen cents and i think that one which kind of sucks but i think that one was paid off for like a year like that one is a recent you're paying rent on a credit yeah yeah on a credit when you're paying rent because i think we've had that one for like four years and i think that one like i never touched it like i didn't have a card you're not a credit card person no no not a credit card person if you i don't even you know i usually tell people to get the fizz card that's just one of the people we work with it's good for charge i don't even want you guys to do that because i think you'd it up somehow no credit cards at all basically no just nothing no charge cards no credit cards nothing like it yes you did you did the red thing and you did the red thing you did the red thing yeah mexican restaurant and then you did the red thing again uh fees 66 dollars of fees 13.46 of interest this year so far because you just started doing it on this card yeah 29 29.15 percent interest for sake are we almost there oh not even a fourth okay a couple pages in a couple pages in yeah i think that's where a lot of the okay platinum uh capital one platinum 56 dollars spent here 12 and 12 cents 33 dollars and 14 cents of interest oh congrats Round of applause.

39:40Can you please clap? Clap for me, please. Clap. Yeah, clap. Congratulations, guys. This time we're not over the credit limit. We're only$20 under it. Only. Now, legitimately, guys, I believe that you, everyone in your life, everyone around us can actually take control of their financial future and make their lives better. And we've spent over a year here creating tools to help make those goals a reality. Right now, our budgeting program and investing program are bundled together at a 15 % discount and you get$100 in cash gifted to you right into your Moomoo account. There's honestly no time like the present to actually take control of your future.

40:19Don't wait. Don't let this opportunity pass you. You guys are starting off my week with something special. $1 ,330.15,$1 ,350 credit limit. okay all that purchasing is definitely helping us to be clear uh the balance went up even though you paid a payment oh my gosh you did the rent thing on here yeah do you even know she's doing this i do and you're okay with this do you have any understanding of it i do understand it she's just trying to get away from getting overdrafted into debit but you know you are losing more money with these fees and interest right to be clear you are not saving 35 or 45 dollars whatever you what it was you're losing you are losing more i agree losing more than what you're trying to save absolutely and then what's this airtron um that's for our ac it's like um for it's like a subscription for our ac subscription for ac well they go and they fix everything they fix everything for free um well ours have then the four years that we've been there it's went out maybe like four times it's only four years but the house is warranty cheap well that's that's who that's who it's from the warranty was only a year i believe um but yeah they units that yeah it's it's bad that the house is just bad overall the unit or did it wasn't new when you got the house it was new when we got it's a new build everything um so i feel like we do need that price of the new build well because something had went out and they were trying to charge us$700 and then they said well if you get the subscription or the whatever the monthly subscription it will pay for it it because it's covered under what they cover but anyways I canceled it so I'll just restart when something goes out 28.99 % interest on this card interest this year so far$236 yeah oh$35 fees we've had either late payments or yeah we've had a late payment this year we've had to i don't remember well you have most likely yeah if it's 35 yeah yeah yeah oh okay walmart card i don't know if i have enough lines in this notebook for this episode yeah that one was recently spent on 35 and 25 cents with a 28 dollar minimum payment i didn't even get that minimum i feel like that one might be paid off as well the minimum monthly on the last one is 46 so you're saying the walmart's paid off yeah this one looks like it normally is is it this time i feel like it i feel like it is because i only spent on it once yeah we went to walmart now what was this um it was costumes and then just like essentials halloween's in like a month or yeah like a month in a month yeah it It was just for the kids, not for us.

43:16Why did we get Halloween costumes on September 3rd? Just to have them in advance. In case someone moves up Halloween? No, they're for Halloween. I just bought them in advance. Uh-huh. Yeah. Preparation. Yeah, we don't have any money. Maybe we're doing the whole sheet with the holes in it type thing. Like the ghost. Okay. American Express gold. You said you spend on the gold, right? Oh, yeah. We spend on that one like every day. Oh, yeah. We spend on this. So I know I have a balance on that one, but if we spend$40, I add$40 first and then I spend the$40. I swear. Nope, you sent more than you put towards it.

43:56For real? For real. How much? Well, in the pay in full, you put$260 towards it, but spent$295. But the pay over time, you put a little extra towards it, more than you spent. Yeah, I usually... But that doesn't matter because the interest was over. It's like 120, right? 120 for that portion, yes. Yeah, it's usually 120 a month. I pay attention to that one a lot. Okay, it looks like you pay your pay in full off before interest accrues there. But your pay over time. What's the point of the pay over time if it's accruing interest? Paying over time only makes sense if it's like 0%. So I really don't understand.

44:35Yeah, I think we just use that one every day. Like I genuinely use that as my debit card. And it sucks because it has a balance. because it's a charge. What is it? Like called a charge card where it doesn't have a limit.

44:50Uber Eats. I canceled that. I canceled that. I don't give a f***. You just spent on it. Well, because they give you$10 a month. I don't give a f***. It was$33. Stop with the excuses and justifications. And the target's the back to school. Holiday Orlando? Oh. Oh. No. So that's a timeshare. Oh my gosh. You guys have done everything. thing is there a payday loan in here no you ever taken out a payday loan no so you've done everything but one thing a timeshare you guys are in a timeshare i don't even think people are hd timeshares it just it sucks because it's like it made sense at the time because it's like how because i just like picture us like traveling and being able to like be with our family and is the timeshare very good at moving everywhere you want to go i mean it's pretty good we everywhere and they gave us like four trips for free too so it made sense what is four trips for free for like flight hotel we can use them in two years in two years we haven't used any of them we're not using them anytime soon but it just made sense at the time when will this be paid off and then it's only maintenance fees forever i sent that i sent that but we just got it in march so we recently got it yeah but that's that's that you guys want to pass this down my producers are saying you want to pass down your time yeah it's it's for it's for three lifetimes you know it's maintenance fees forever yeah i think it's 50 a month i mean not a month a year i'm sorry a year oh we'll see i want to look at this i sent i sent it though i want to look at this the doc was corrupted I might have you pull it up Okay Okay so time share Which by the way it doesn't even matter We're putting on a credit card that's accrued interest anyway So it's like what the f*** Amazon, Amazon, Amazon, Amazon Foot Locker Why do you guys think you're a lot of travel You're not a lot of travel You don't have any money You can't afford to take care of your own kids You're not a lot of travel Smoothie King Stopping in getting some BS Amazon Maple Street Biscuit Krispy Kreme You guys across every card throughout here You're easily spending on food twice a day That's our biggest issue Well, so I put it in the notes, but my nephew uses on that card as well.

47:08Your nephew? No, he pays that Krispy Kreme, so it's not ours. Okay. I don't give a shit. Get him off. Get him off. Oh, he pays it. No, I don't care. We can't have any accidental thing. What if he decides not to one day? You guys can't even pay your own. So I don't care. It's done. He's off. He can get his own credit card. Okay. Your cousin and not in the normal Texas way. He's my nephew. Get him off of this. Oh, yeah. See? salt grass i've said that before though stopping at a thing getting some bs stopping at a thing getting some bs my nephew boba t i don't give a get him off okay i just say take your uh again takaria takaria get it gone

47:55that's his student and by the way i've also i would have the conversation with her to get him off so yeah cut that because that's his school bleep the word yeah that's by the stopping and getting some bs cheesecake factory so i'm gonna get bookstore at college raising canes uh spending things at the college all the time wait so are you in college right now no those are my nephew's purchases so it's your nephew's college yeah like get him off this car why why would your nephew be on a card. He just wanted it. We tried to tell him to not get it, but he wanted it. He just likes the way it looks. I don't know.

48:37Hey, guys. I'd like a$200 steak. You getting it for me? No. Okay, tell him the same thing then. I don't care if he wants it. Oh, good. We went to Padre Island and Ocean Treasures and Dillard's and Dillard's. That's his. Stopping at the school, stopping at the school, and stopping at the school.

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49:03They're not out. That's all his. They're not out. I'm just thinking, any of the money that is just accruing interest, imagine that being in your brokerage. If I put it in my Moomoo account right now, and I was investing in the S &P 500, you guys would be set for life. You have no idea what you're throwing away right now. And that's what kills me the most, is people just don't even know what they're throwing away. Chase Otto, at least we're getting away from the credit cards. Hold on. Wait, I didn't write the balance. Okay. Hold on.

49:37$4 ,779.64. It's$118 of interest accruing on a monthly basis with a payment, a minimum monthly pay over time payment of what? Of what? Of what? I don't know what the pay over time minimum monthly is. I don't think there is one. Oh, it says pay whenever? Yeah. I just want a crew interest forever Oh Okay what is this car Chase Auto what is it what do we have Um a Camry X SE Year 2020 Better have a great interest rate then It's average You got it in 2020 right before The house what's an average interest rate I can't see it Like a 5.3 5.1 Okay it's not the worst And we should depreciation and everything is definitely bad Yeah we should pay it off by next year but I am planning on paying it off earlier you actually have equity in this car you actually have equity in this car past due no I paid that we're past due we're past due when is that oh

50:44it's a quality statement I don't know why it's hard to read but you're past due $573 is the minimum payment you were past due I don't even give a fuck you've made it up you were past you at the time of this so it's we're past two people i think they you guys are collecting every infinity stone of getting i think they put that behind the you put it at the end yeah you know this is giving more time for interested crew how many times have you done that only this is my second time i did it during covid and but i can't do it anymore like i don't want to but yeah that one was put behind i want to give you free money right now i've partnered with different resources that will literally give you hundreds of dollars the moment you sign up for them.

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52:05All of this free money is linked in the resources section of the description below. So don't pass up the free money because I'll punch you gotta stop you gotta stop with this madness dude did you know i didn't know what do you think a lot of news that we were about to pay it off you know this is extending your payment which is allowing interest to accrue longer what do you think i think something gotta change something's gotta change

52:33scholar okay that's the best news we heard so far yeah that one's i think paid by next year you have a$4 ,000 equity position in this car I don't think so but huh well we recently got hit like somebody hit us and ran was that calculated I don't know if that's correct Jake was that calculated into it the hit them getting in a car crash

53:05you have it's worth$4 ,000 more than you owe on kbb and usually they're pretty conservative too i i had thought it was worse because we have like a i used to use it for work and it has like a hundred thousand miles did we do the miles yeah we did everything we got your info that you gave us okay and it's four thousand more okay okay so you owe eleven thousand eight hundred ninety five past due i can't believe if you're doing it have you uh the accident has it been it was reported but they left so because i was in but is it like is it just looks it's the bumper uh-huh have you fixed it no you could fix a bumper before selling it though yeah they try to quote us like a thousand so i just it's our daily so i don't really care what it looks like yeah but you do have an equity position which I like to say.

54:03Okay, that's good. This is technically your card and I thought okay, we're going to see spending from him but you're saying you spend on his card. Yeah, it's me. You are an addict of spending. It's me. I'm a saver. He is a saver. No, you're not. There's no savings to speak of. What are you talking about, saver? What money are you saving? No, she's not yours. She's spending it all. And you're allowing it. You're going to dinner with her, right? You're a saver. You're a saver. You haven't saved a thing in your life. I tried to save. No, you didn't. If you tried to save there'd be savings. I don't want to hear that.

54:30That's going to be delusion that's going to hold you back for the rest of your life amazon chase card and we owe 5 000 oh we did it again 5 196 hours and 50 cents credit limit of a 5 100 we're over we're over how do we do this we're addicted to over i so that one turned off turned as a it not a balance transfer because i'm not we've never done a balance transfer but we had a um which again a bad decision but a good decision in my opinion so we had a um what is it called for the water water softener the water softener for the entire house bathed in dry water well we don't buy water bottles at all can you not drink non-soft water it was nasty because we live on the outskirts of san antonio i get a water filter well it is for the whole house okay so anyways that's that's what that's on that card so that's what is water softener yeah like that that's how you didn't need a water softener well i didn't know that at the time well i mean it yeah like it saved us a lot of money water can be obnoxious yeah it's it was really nasty but that's how that card started it's not how it ended but that's no because he spent 165 dollars on it so i don't even know what you're talking about because it's a big balance.

55:56$185 minimum monthly payment. Oh, boy, guys.

56:04$119.27 of interest occurring over the credit limit. Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. Whataburger. Amazon. Amazon. Oh, I have your Amazon spending at the later half of this. We'll go over that then, which you got. I just don't know why you do this to yourself. $459 of interest accrued this year so far. Fee! $28 fee this year. You've had a late payment on this too. Pass due on the card. Pass due on credit cards. You know, the other ones, but the other ones have had pass dues at some point in fees this year so far. I just haven't, I didn't look. I didn't look. Damn it, guys. Literally, legitimately, 50 minutes into this and I do not think we're halfway through.

56:47Doesn't look like it. No. You, single-handedly responsible for destroying the rainforest. Oh, with the paper? That, yep. That too. Cooksilver. $882.31. This one's not always paid off. nope interest accruing $38.28 $15 for purchases $48 minimum payment$47 sorry I'm kidding PayPal PayPal what on PayPal probably a subscription you don't get to subscribe $15.74 it's a subscription we don't get subscriptions you can't afford subscriptions there's no subscription in your life other than subscribing and trying to just survive. That's the only thing. You don't have subscriptions. That's canceled. That's done.

57:45No more subscriptions. Oh, guys, I wish I looked for the other. I wish I looked for the other cards. I'm upset that I only started looking now. Two, two past due or late fees this year so far on this card. Two, double, double, two.

58:05$311.89 in interest so far. How many thousands of dollars now have we stacked up to in interest this year? Throw your car on top of that. City double cash. I love city double cash. City double cash is great. Not for you. It's double penetration. Oh, we are over the... No. Yeah, we're doing it again. We're over the credit limit again. $1 ,507.35. with interest $40.61 minimum fee payment$62.96 $36 purchases worth purchasing on a card that were over the limit and it's accruing interest oh this is a tough episode to make it through guys Amazon it's for Amazon great wonderful thrilled couldn't be happier late fees there's been late fees this year there's been late fees there's been late fees have you known have you known that there's been this many late fees you guys aren't even paying your damn bills interest accruing um this year so far 246 hours squared okay wonderful i'm just gonna which one is that i don't know what am i looking at that's the the timeshare huh that's It's a timeshare.

59:32Your timeshare has an interest rate of 13%. Even if it wasn't a timeshare, it's a interest rate. And then you incorporate the fact that it's a timeshare. It's almost impossible to get at. Yeah. I didn't know y 'all had that one. Well, I sent it, but that was encrypted. Yeah, that's that one. What timeshare even is it? The company? it's called ascendant holidays okay i don't know it balance before maintenance fees seven thousand four hundred ten dollars twenty cents minimum monthly payment before maintenance fees it should say 137.48 this is the loan dude this isn't this isn't your no there's no maintenance isn't it at the bottom it says maintenance fees nope oh this is your maintenance fee summary but I'm just talking about the loan oh okay yep it's at a 12.9 % interest rate and the fees haven't kicked in yet so you're not once the maintenance fees kick in that's where you're gonna get boned so you don't even know what they are speaking of traveling you have some travel bull card that's from the company the company yeah guys

1:01:04maybe I just need to give up all of my morals and just be in the business of giving people like 50 % loans cause apparently there's people out there like you if I just ask you if you want it you'll take it cause you'll take out any debt that is presented okay a worldwide vacation travel okie dokes with a 5993 dollar 43 cents congratulations guys you're uh six dollars and 76 cents nope i didn't do that right but just about six bucks and 57 cents under the credit line really proud with the 209 dollar minimum monthly payment oh good we're purchasing we're purchasing on a timeshare credit card paypal 288 bucks the same thing the what the the trick that this is the trick still Your special little trick where you get with$107 in interest?

1:02:16Are you still convinced that you save money doing this trick? No. Okay. Good. Glad. By the way, it takes 20 years to pay off. Minimum monthly payment. 20 years. You'll be in your 40s.

1:02:34$409 in interest on this card so far. That's already. Oh, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Okay. So to be clear, 4 ,281 on the normal card and you're getting interest secured from that. Did you guys know you also are on a second plan on this card? That was the six months without interest. Oh, how does that work? Can you tell me? Yeah. Give me a little sneak peek on how that works. You have interest. You don't have interest for six months. And then after the six months, you get charged the interest that's still on that balance. And were you going to pay that off after six months?

1:03:13I think that would be October. That's in about two weeks. But they said that we can extend that. They said that they would extend it. In what way? Extend in what way? They'll give us six more months or 12 more months without interest. Yeah, but they'll probably add. There's going to be a catch. There's going to be some catch. Because you have to pay this off in two weeks. Or your new... By the way, the balance you have to pay off in two weeks is$1 ,712. And if you don't, you get added$221.91. Is it deferred? In back interest. Yes, deferred. Yes, you've done that.

1:03:52Okay, I'm just going to keep digging into this. Not even halfway through it. You know, honestly, that's the first time where I'm almost like, I almost understand you guys not going through your finances because this is insane. It's a lot. We've had the most insane situation that's ever been on the show multiple times, and they've all been true. And honestly, that's going to be this again because apparently it's a competition. Some people, everyone's one up in each other. Did you guys even know it was this bad? Like as bad as I am telling you it is. As in this might be the worst I've ever seen on this show.

1:04:35Did you guys know it was going to be that bad? I felt like it was that bad. Two years of three episodes a week. I felt like it was that bad. Okay. TJX whatever. Is that TJ Maxx? Yeah. That was like Christmas presents last year. You don't get to give Christmas presents. You really don't. You can afford it. $707.48 $27 monthly payment.

1:05:08purchases of course what would it be without purchases barely under the credit limit great it takes four years to pay off doing uh minimum monthly payments what you guys are doing you're also spending on it so it takes longer to do that hold on what did we spend what was it where are you where are you little oh there was no there was no payment there was no purchase it was just the interest i i was stupid okay 131 dollars in interest this year so far 32.24 interest rate target card every store that exists you have a card for okie dokes with barely under the credit limit here so no progress has been made to be very clear Not a single cent of progress.

1:06:00$1 ,355.25 with a$32.95 of interest. Eight years to pay off. 28.15 % interest rate. $248.52 of interest this year's farm. Many thousands in interest. A synchrony card. Rooms to go. seriously every door guys that was our furniture yeah but that one doesn't have interest i know that one for sure no interest uh accruing right now we don't have um we have until next year five dollar minimum monthly payment balance one thousand seven hundred seven dollars and 73 cents i'm gonna have to go on to a second page i've never had to do that before i don't think probably get the three yeah the percentage for it when it kicks in is 34.99 I've never even seen that if we make the minimum monthly it'll be paid off by December and that's when the promotion ends oh some of them are extended even further you know you have minimum monthly payments on some of these until 2027 you're going to be paying off furniture in 2027 mmhmm we want to have debt until 2027 All right.

1:07:20Navy Federal Card. $1 ,467.65. The$36.90 minimum monthly payment. Just under the credit limit. $21.90 of interest. 10 years to pay off. Doing what you're doing. 18 % interest. Fees. We've had a late payment this year. Yeah, that one I for sure have. $180 of interest. Yeah. Because they don't have automatic payments. I don't know why. cancel it close it kill it i don't give a yeah moving on to the next page in my little special book oh i'm getting like a sweaty ass we've been here so long discover it oh i have something to talk about on that one wait which one is that is that his yeah so we recently got on a plan we can't use it which I want to close it anyway but um the interest was what like 28 percent I don't know if you could see it um but they actually lowered it for a year and then they lowered the monthly payment too so I had called them oh my gosh you're over the credit limit well because they they charge a lot of interest I know but your minimum monthly payments take care it it was like not even enough no your minimum payments are enough if you're not putting anything I don't think I was fees then you weren't putting enough towards it you weren't doing the full minimum 29 years to pay off this card well yeah so we recently got on that program okay but it still probably takes just as long I think it'll be a little bit less but yeah okay maybe it's 20 years instead of 29 yeah yeah so they lowered the interest rate and then they lowered the monthly as well.

1:09:01What's your new monthly? 140. Oh my gosh. A credit one? Another credit one? Guys, you're just under the limit again. We're either at it, over it, or just under. $30 minimum monthly. Luckily, no spending. $8.25 of fees. That's credit one for you. It's just constant fees forever. Then$11.44. $74 of fees this year so far and$85.70. That company is making so much money, let me tell you. Why do you say that one's the worst one? Look at the fees. You're getting fees on a monthly basis even though you're not missing anything. Just half of the card people open. You never really see someone with one credit one.

1:09:47They always have two or three or four million. Alright, Quicksilver. $1 ,276.14 with a$49 minimum fee payment. $33.01 of interest. 11 years to pay off. Doing it the way you're doing it. 29.96 % interest rate. Oh my f***. There's been one or two missed payments on this cart this year. We're addicted to missed payments. $259 of interest accrued this year so far. I don't even want to continue this. This is crazy. But actually you guys are very pleasant people so i am going to for you because i like you guys but this is insane no of course i just want to go lay in my office i think are we halfway through now it doesn't look like it oh my gosh it's been an hour best buy guys everyone give love for salah he's the one who's throwing all the numbers and graphics up on screen and he has a lot of them for this episode

1:10:56$338.69 That one's on a promotion as well With a$29 payment Just under the credit But it's deferred interest I'll pay it I swear Usually I'll pay that one Well I usually pay all of them but Is it March? It is I'll pay that one Fees we've had a late payment Guys, we'll pay this one, but we've had a late. That one was waived. They gave it back to me. One may have been waived, but there's still... I don't know, because if it's waived, they would have taken it away. It would have taken it away from here, I'm pretty sure. It was recent. Yeah. How recent? It was like last month. Oh my gosh, this is as of last month, we're still getting late?

1:11:40Yeah, but that one... And then interest, of course. You still had$4.30 of interest accrued this year so far. Yeah, they gave that one back. Deferred$51.65. Samsung financing I've never even seen that yeah so that one I bought my sister a watch huh? I bought my sister a watch what kind of watch? like a Samsung watch I guess I don't know she's like an Android user ew stop it but yeah and that one's the promotion too and I will pay that one off before it's next year of 2025 That's what you say. Well, I've seen late fees. Girl. This one? Hey. This one's late. Hey. Hey. I'll pay this off by then. I pretty promise.

1:12:33But guys, it was my. It's the minimum. But guys, it was my birthday month. So I have to go spend three times what we make. It was. If I do the minimum payment, it'll be paid off by December. Guess what? You miss minimum payments every second of your life. Not on this one. I don't want to hear it. it applied to like six of the cards we looked at seven of the cards we've looked at so all it takes is it'll apply to this one one day you just won't have enough in your checking account you'll do your fancy little thing it was our birthday month my tummy is grumbling we've been here a year we're gonna be here another year and you say you're gonna pay this off by the time the deferred interest hits we'll see i'll come back next year do it on the follow-up channel 234 dollars and 88 cents with a 14.68 cent thing just hit me it's kind of cool that i get to be a youtuber for living it's kind of weird i just called out another channel for people to watch which one like the follow-up channel that hopefully you're on but that's yeah that's cool that is like that's weird that you get to be paid for this thing and they're both your channels that's so cool that's so random that's so i'm dying i'm seeing the like a little happiness i think that you get a little glimmer of happiness before you go i think seven minutes of your entire life 14.68 cents of interest accruing okay

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1:16:24Some of these things. Okay. Well, is this new? Cause it just started accruing interest. Maybe it's period end of like 0%. Not too sure. I don't think so. Again, you not even knowing brings me zero confidence that all these deferred interest ones are going to take care of by the time they're done. It's going to be the month of it. It's going to be like, whoops. Oh, apparently I missed a payment a couple of months ago and now we're about to get Navy federal credit. another fed $1 ,442 minimum monthly $36 ,51 $21 of interest $10 to pay off my producers say we've crossed the house basically at the credit limit no surprise it's kind of what you guys do $173 of interest this year so far and other discover it oh my gosh guys that one's mine yeah and that that one's on the same promotion like i have like a it's either six months to a year and they're charging 9.99 percent interest but discover i've been trying to call them like everybody and discover is like the only one that's really like wanting to help i guess but that one's on the same promotion listen there are some good companies out there there are some good companies out there like again we work with we we partner with a bunch of people to like help in certain areas depending on people's situation we have the relief app which will kind of do what you're trying to do with this but with all your debts and i recommend them for most people but with you guys you almost use these negotiations as a way where it's okay to spend more money in other places which i i i would i recommend them to most guests i wouldn't recommend them to you it was like we don't spend on i wouldn't recommend it to you yeah you have a balance of two thousand eight hundred eighty dollars and seven cents twenty four dollars and sixty four cents interest accrued and yes it's at that 9.99 % and it's and it takes 11 years to pay off.

1:18:39Citi preferred card. I almost my energy is like running low. I almost just might also pay for you guys to sit down with a financial advisor at Domain Money. It's our financial advisor service that we work with. So half of them just sort through all this for you guys. I'm going to give my thoughts on it by the end but I think you're going to need to sit down with someone our two hours or whatever that we're doing today usually it's enough for someone's situation here I don't think it's enough time for you guys it's going to be well five by the time we're done and I want you to sit down with real financial advisors we might set that up I mean, we're willing.

1:19:32Like, we already have our house. We have our car. Like, we really don't need anything else, like, credit-wise. $715.33 of a balance on here. Just under the credit limit. And$18.22 is... Oh, that's the interest. The minimum fee payment is$35.

1:19:54We've had a late fee this year. Ah!

1:20:01Interest,$118.76. Ah! Custom cash from Citi. You're addicted to Citi. $2 ,710.32. With a$92.67 minimum monthly payment. I don't know how you guys are recording these at this point. All stacking up. Can someone back there start adding up all of their minimum monthly payments outside of their mortgage for me? This is going to take a long time.

1:20:32$65.67 of interest occurring.

1:20:37We've had two to three missed payments this year so far on here. You are... It doesn't make sense that you were in charge of finances in any way. And then you don't know your numbers at all, so it wouldn't have made sense for you to be in charge. But I wish we were talking, because I think we could at least counterbalance each other and be like, ooh, maybe we shouldn't be spending money when we can't make our f***ing payments. Then$564 of interest accrued this year so far. This is another city card. I'm going to blow this place up. Chase Inc. An unexpected player has entered. Chase Inc. $300,$144.84 with a minimum monthly payment of$97.

1:21:26$66.19 is accruing. You guys still having fun? Because I want to kill myself. $191.72 of interest this year so far down there. Best Buy. You both have a Best Buy then. Jeez, for f*** sake. You guys like apply together? Is that your version of dates? Is that your version of intercourses? Let's apply. Your cigarette after f*** is applying for a debt? No. My cigarette after f*** is ice cream. I crave ice cream. Do you like sandwiches after? Sandwiches? No. No. I was just asking. No clue. Sandwiches after. And you know what to do, man. That's not it. He likes candy after. Yeah, sweets. Sweets. That's where I'm at.

1:22:13$1 ,452.19. I also like to be left alone. But no one ever respects that part. $47 is your minimum monthly payment. Fees. fees we're having fees what's the fee what's the fee a fee this month this month this isn't even one that happened this year no that one that one was the one that was put back i thought it was oh so the other one wasn't put back no that one is oh come on$29 fees and$2.61 of interest 30.49 interest doesn't even matter if this fee because you've had more fees this year so far anyway. How many? $13.35 of interest this year so far. Oh, $191 to deferred interest. When does this end?

1:23:05When do you have to pay this off by? Mm-hmm. Oh, multiple deferred interest. Two deferred interest. When do you have to do it? Is one May? One. When's the other? February. You would have f***ed it up. Next year. Yeah. Apple. Me. 2 ,500. Numbers don't even look like numbers anymore. 2 ,556 dollars and two cents.

1:23:39$85 minimum payment. $59.28 of interest this month. This year,$459.24. and a 27.24 % interest rate. Okay. The f*** even is this? Why is there overdue interest? Overdue? What is this? Cash up. Cash up what? Borrow. Do you still owe this? I don't think so. I think I paid that one off. You promise? No, I don't promise. But no, I think that one's supposed to be due October 2nd. So that one's close. Oh, the whole thing? Yeah. Is it all at once? I don't pay it like weekly. I just pay it off. $1.75.

1:24:36Footlocker? Shoes we didn't have? Yeah, my shoes. Yeah.

1:24:44$64.95. So your minimum monthly. Nope, that's your bi-monthly. Your minimum monthly is 120... It's like every two weeks. 20... Let me get the exact number.

1:25:02It's$129.09 footlocker. $259.80 is the whole thing. Bi-weekly as well. Yes. Gymshark. What the f*** is a Gymshark? Oh, that's close. But... Workout close. But... Who's going to the gym? I am. Who's fresh in the gym? So I am. But... Congratulations. I'm going to return those. Since when? Oh, you gave up. No, I'm returning them. Like, for my money back. Did you give up on the gym? No. I just have clothes. You down any poundage? Yes. And I think... Good job. I think... Thank you. And I think it wasn't making sense to buy clothes right now. Sandwiches after... I'm not going to keep the pounds off.

1:25:45Yeah, so I'm returning those. I already did the little... Then I'm not going to put it on the thing. Okay, what is this? Credit karma. What the f*** am I looking at? Oh. Oh, hold on. What? Open derogatory. Oh, no, no, no. T-Mobile. No, wait. T-Mobile and collections? Wait, pause, pause. Pausing. So that one was four years ago. Okay. But they keep like putting it on my credit. Yeah, no, f***. It was four years ago. But I don't want to pay that one. Why? It was like some family stuff. and I know they fall off after seven years. Guess what? Guess what? Guess what? You still f*** out, okay? Yeah. Whether or not it's family stuff.

1:26:24So I have tried to call to see if they'll lower it and they gave me half off, but I just don't know if it makes sense to pay it off if it's going to fall off in three years. So I did want to ask you about that one. That's not my top concern out of all these things. It's not. Yeah. You should pay it as an adult, but this is stacking up so f***ing much. Yeah. They keep taking... So that one shows 2024, but it wasn't. It was four years ago. Oh,$900. I didn't know. Showing up to this when I showed up to work today.

1:26:58591 credit score. So round it up.

1:27:05Lakeview. Lakeview what? Oh, mortgage. Oh, we made it to the mortgage. That means we're almost done with the debt. Holy. House. How much is the house valued at right now? $350. You think so? Yeah.

1:27:24$213 ,000 and$166.14. I'm saying that weird. I'm losing my mind. And a monthly payment. $15.81. $15.81.63. And that one's going to be lowered next year. $15.80.63. As well. Okay. Because of Homestead. I didn't know about the Homestead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's see what we got. We got a little camera thing. We got some tape. We got a fitness tracker, some vitamins, some flea and tick shampoo. Becoming a supernatural book. Yeah, it's a book. It's a book. Yeah, no. Look at the other book. Are you capable of reading if you're buying a book like that? Yes, but look at the other one. Life of Game.

1:28:12No, the other one. Dave Ramsey. The other ones don't make any sense with that. Cream of Nature. Oh, that's your hair stuff. It's furs hair. You made that sound so nasty. Dude, I just literally read the name of it. Some J earrings are even wearing them? They're not earrings. Return them. They're not earrings. I don't care what they are. Return them, burn them. I'm already wearing them. Jump rope, you're paying for it, Jim. Yeah, they don't have a jump rope. you're paying for a gem return the jump rope the miracle journal okay there's nothing happening in your life air filters yeah that's valid the 44 lots of peace what are we doing yeah you are not reading a book a week i've been reading a lot though not a book a week no okay also go to the library okay we don't have a library evicted property and profit what are you reading so i'm reading it because i i was looking at wait i have a i have a response i have a response so i'm trying to obviously get out of the mess that i've made and i'm just trying to read books on this situation this is gonna get you into some zero percent down real estate crap or something i don't know i haven't read it i'm not surprised you have a thousand billion books a month.

1:29:38That's it. There's no more debts. Yay. Oh! Oh! An hour and 25 minutes. Okay.

1:29:55Kind of mind blown a little bit. Oh, we've got one more? What? What? What? What? What? What? Oh, no, there's not another. There's just... Oh, I'm sorry. $202 is our balance in our tech-end account, so I don't know how we're surviving. Overdrafts is... I told you they were bad. You absolute...

1:30:29I've never seen$681 of overdrafts in a year. in a year. You, you, you, you. It's not that they suck. It's not that they suck. You're spending half of your income on fun. It's not that they suck. It's not that they suck. They don't do it to you. You did it to yourself. They did. Huh? I said I didn't. Nah. You need a juice box.

1:31:02$681 of overdraft in a single... year. It's unheard of. $70.86 in overdraft this month alone. And mind you, mind you, this is well all those other cards doing this thing where we're transferring money from credit cards and off credit cards so we can avoid overdraft fees. So it would probably be double. It would probably be double. It would probably be double. I'm wearing this nice little shirt to have a nice day, a nice good day. It is a nice shirt. All right, guys, I get it. You need more financial audit. So we've decided now in our membership below, you get two exclusive see nowhere else uncensored financial audits.

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1:33:13Hey. Oh, don't do this. Look at that. We're overdrafting$700 a year and all these lines are bull purchases you don't have an excuse to overdo this

1:33:33oh for sake we actually have juice boxes at this office wow

1:33:42i'm sure this is way too calorically dense for what i am trying to achieve in life Who would like a juice box? You had some over there. I appreciate it.

1:33:54Going in and getting some BS. Cash apping out. Amazon. Wendy's. Dropolis. Cash apping out. Amazon. Mark's outing. TJ Maxx. Journeys. Cash apping out. PayPal. Affirm. We're affarming Uber Eats. Somehow we think we can afford Uber Eats when we have$700 in overdrafts in one year. Uber One, Cash App, Uber Eats, Apple Cash sent out, Amazon, Kindle, Cash App, Zelle, Amazon, Cash App, Amazon, Bath and Body Works. Huh. Hmm. Bath and Body Works, Ulta. I thought we were done with Ulta. I thought we decided we were done with Ulta. Apparently we're not done with Ulta. Apple Cash sent out. That was your other thing.

1:34:44Apple Cash sent out. Denny's, cottage Irish pub American perfume apple cash where's all the apple cash going where's all the apple cash going where's all the apple cash going well I have an apple card but where's the apple cash going apple cash that's coming in no no apple cash sent 40 100 180 oh that was his hair all three the three haircuts a week The 180 and then the other one You guys got me up to 90 heart rate Do you have high blood pressure? After this conversation Chick-fil-A PayPal No actually I checked it out of curiosity It's fine But after this conversation I don't know Cash app Church's chicken Chipotle Overdraft fee Cash app Venmo payment good with the state you have 255 dollars in retirement i'm thrilled i've never been more excited in my life as we're basically there he's a saver didn't you know he's a saver well he just started that job remember he's a saver i'm a savior and you have 2239 in this retirement account and then infidelity of 8540 that's actually pretty okay it's surprising you're not putting anything in more than matches are you i recently decreased it and then i had another one it was um 5 000 it was a share works it's investments as well there was like 3 000 4 000

1:36:35guys i've lost the budget and the chaos i've lost it i've lost it this one nope

1:36:47oh you took up so much space on my notebook you owe me a notebook That's why I asked where you got it from remember Total income $6 ,500 Debt minimum payments not including the mortgage $2 ,918 F*** me Car assurances $100 Total? Yeah Flat Yeah well I paid it the 6 months But I'm probably not going to be able to do it this time When is it due? December but I will have a bonus. And how much will it be monthly? 91 a month. Yeah. How much in gas? Vroom, vroom, drive, drive. 140, 150. Probably 140 together. Phone bill? 160. Switch to helium. 20 bucks a month. What are we doing? 15, isn't it? I don't even know anymore.

1:37:43I think it's 20 a month, but we owe on our phones. Okay, once it's paid off. How much then? What was it again? 160 for five lines. Okay, there it is. House. 1580. 1580, 63. Utilities? 160, electric, 110, water. What else? Internet. 52. Gas? That's included. In what? In the electric. Oh, 322. Okay. we should be able to do groceries for about$900 a month meal prepping meal prepping a couple times a week for example my second in command over there you know what disgusting thing I learned this is like more than I would suggest but he meal preps for two weeks at a time he eats two dinners a month but you can do that if you have a goal you can do that probably smells like refrigerator right by that time so$900 for groceries we should be able to do Follow the meal plan In the budging program Tweak it to your needs TP fund Cause the kids It gets a little harder Probably about 200 bucks Anything else you need This could be sports equipment You know save it One month Spend it the next You know Whatever you need Co-pays Do we have On How much is the gym It's 28 But it's paid For the next three months But it's normally 28 Yeah but I don't have to Pay till January Okay well that's gonna Come before you know it Yeah This is a long term Thing we're dealing with That's including my training My training's covered Any prescriptions No dogs pets i did see a thing how many three it's probably 60 a month in what dog food freely uh well flea and tick no that's more yeah cheap food it's probably a little bit more than that actually i'm gonna put 100 and i think that's still conservative but if you're doing it right uh i would do pet insurance you just can't afford it but if one of them gets sick i don't know how you can afford anything what else needs to be in your budget a lot i have a list i'm sorry what so i have um a mutual fund for both kids that's 25 a month nope i take it out yep that's not anymore um i pay on a plot like a funeral plot what for who for us like oh cancel it you can restart it eventually you're gonna live a long time statistically okay okay canceled next um my dad's uh headstone is that is he dead yeah oh it's financed um no i just oh it's like 40 a month so so it's a debt well it's just a contract i just how long like two years i pay 40 a month okay what else that is why why do i wait why is there's so much paper there it's on my debt as well oh um okay you can take a tissue and then life insurance now okay not through work no how much is life insurance um 62 okay it's not bad and then um HOA oh one second that headstone's 20 40 HOA yeah how much um 26 a month okay and then trash is 26 a month oh i would have put that in utilities but that's fine okay and that's it okay nothing else needs to be in your budget no are you okay not doing the the i get the headstone thing but are you okay not doing your own grave yet no because it's under my dad's.

1:41:32How much was it? It's like 150. A month? For how long? I think like five years. Okay, let me see what I can do. And how far are you into that? Two. Okay. That's okay. I get it. I get it. It's very hard. When did you lose your dad? About three years ago. I'm sorry. That's really hard. Okay, here's the reality. We've just dug ourselves. You could do, I want you to be able to do that. And we could do that so easily if not for the$2 ,918 and minimum monthly payments on all the other loans. That's the thing. We've put ourselves in such a bad situation that now you're not able to do the things that matter to you.

1:42:30because we're prioritizing our spending and just having fun living life. All right? So combine everything that you need to survive plus that plot, $6 ,739.26 we need. Now your bonus doesn't always come in, so it's more$6 ,000 a month plus the bonus hits. So really we need to minimum make an extra$739.26 a month, and that is someone is picking up a part-time job somewhere. But that makes no progress, to be clear. So let's say you make an extra thousand hours a month after taxes. So$225 can go to the debt. The debt, not including the house, was$80 ,000, just about. So let's just round this thing.

1:43:11That takes 320 months to pay off.

1:43:17Or 26 and a half years.

1:43:22Well, he is going to get a bonus. And bonuses are good. Well, it's an extra$101 a month. so that's coming in October okay that helps so we still need to make even still I mean even with that you know I'm assuming an extra thousand right and it still takes 26 and a half years to pay off and that's unacceptable we can't do that there's no retirement there's no college fund there's no mutual fund for the kids there's no there's nothing there so what I'm happy to do is you guys are looking for an extra job if you guys want to increase your resume at all because someone's going to get a second job.

1:44:00One of you is. This is flat out. Or you guys are going through bankruptcy. Which one? And bankruptcy is expensive. It costs thousands of dollars and a lot of time and a lot of stress. Can you even do that with the mortgage? Well, no. We're going to make sure that... Yes, there's variations you can go through. You can still keep the car. You can still keep the house. I don't mind. But it starts getting... It really does. It is stressful. It's expensive. but it is an option there's also the go make more money option the most i can work is 45 with my job at least so i know if i do five and five that'll bring in 300 extra there is also again there is the uh the relief app option we talked about so there's a lot of options here you're going to sit down with the financial advisor they can go for different options there's also the option and i hate this option but don't pay on anything let it go into collections but technically some of these especially some of the bigger ones they legally can go after you if they actually want to and take you to court they can many don't but they can and you're really rolling the dice with this many individual debts one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 debts.

1:45:26Because two were closed, you said. 32 debts. There's one other episode that has just about as many debts, but you definitely have the largest balance with those amount of debts, I think. So I need you to sit down with those advisors, because you're going to have to go through multiple meetings going over this. We can't solve this here, sitting down here. The budget, sure, we can do that. And you can get set up with the education and the resources. And we can at least keep you. We know that we can keep you afloat living on the minimums and bringing in an extra$250 a month. We know we can keep you afloat or an extra$500 a month.

1:46:00We know we can do that. So that's important to learn from this conversation. The debt payoff strategy, we don't fully have. If you go bring in an extra$2 ,000 a month, you know, that leaves an extra$1 ,500 left over. Of the 80 ,000 hours of debt. And we do have like 5 ,000 coming in from the homestead. And these are great. But these are one-time things. But even still, with the extra 1 ,500 hours a month after your living expenses, it's still 53 months to pay off. Let me make sure I did that math right. 53 months to pay off debt. Or four and a half years. and that's working your ass off for a crazy amount of times.

1:46:48There is one option and this one's hard because you have such a great rate and you're building, you know, rent is going to be comparable to your mortgage payment. But how many rooms do you have? What's your square footage? Five. Five rooms. That's actually pretty darn good. Yeah, we have a five bedroom, three bath. Gosh, because you could live in a two bedroom for what you pay. But if you sold your house, took out, you know, you sold it and used$100 ,000 of that, you know, you'd be debt free with$20 ,000 going towards a down payment on a new home. And that's a way to clear this up and start fresh as well.

1:47:22So there's options here. Which one is right for you? I really want to mold this one over because there's so much life-dependent stuff. And I think you need to sit down and have, like, multi-hour long conversations. because this is going to be a path. This is going to be a fight. A journey. But I'm glad we at least know you need to go right now, make an extra$250 a month right now. Like I said, I'm happy to gift a course career certification, go through the quiz, figure out what makes sense for you, and they'll attach you with one and then we'll pay for it. Put it on your resume, get another job.

1:48:02It's just a second part-time job, And with that and following the budget, we can at least break even so our debt's not going up, right? But I'm sorry, guys. That's kind of where it is today. That's kind of where it is today. There's a lot of options. Some of them long. Some of them a lot of work. Some of them giving up, which I don't like. Some bankruptcy, which is expensive and stressful. And some is selling the house, which I also don't love. There's a lot of options that I don't love, but many of them do work. What's right for you is going to have to be determined. Okay. I agree. So we're going to go into the post show.

1:48:42I want to hear some interesting things about your job, but we also have more, much more we know about you guys through the producers and they're going to come in. And, you know, it's usually where we save some of the dramas for the post show. Okay. And the numbers for the main show. I mean, your hammer financial score. This is, oh, the real estate plays into it. Okay. It's spending your budget. You overspend. It wasn't even close. Zero out of 10. You have collections. So debt, zero out of 10. Emergency fund, there was nothing there. Zero out of 10. Your retirement, not horrible. Your retirement is a joke.

1:49:11So together, I'm going to give us a retirement three out of 10. Real estate, not having an emergency fund hurts, kind of. But just the real estate itself with the equity position and everything, it's good. It's in there. It's happy. It's an eight out of 10. Okay. So hammer financial score. Real estate really pulling its weight. it's gonna be two and a half out of ten that's fair join us for the post show link in the description below make sure to check out our investing and budgeting class which are bundled at a 15 discount down there as well i'll see you guys in the post show today on the financial audit post show i noticed on a few of your your credit card statements you have cash advance balances in addition to your purchase your cash advancing oh you're cash advancing Was that the cash advance one?

1:50:00No, no, no, no. No, cash advance, and you're taking cash from your credit card. I'm not, like, trying to call you a liar. That's the only way that those balances can agree. You're destroying yourself. Yeah, I'm going to just take off all the cards. Every infinity stone besides payday loans, I think. To watch the Financial Audit post show, click the join button below.

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