He's All Over The Place

17 Nov 2023 · 1 h 11 min

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Podcast Summary: Financial Audit - Episode "He's All Over The Place"

Episode Overview

  • Host: Caleb Hammer
  • Guest: Hector, a 25-year-old server based in Orlando, Florida.
  • Main Theme: Analyzing Hector's financial situation, discussing his debts, spending habits, and exploring potential career paths.

Key Introductions

  • Who is Hector?
  • A 25-year-old server with significant student loan debt despite not obtaining a degree.
  • Has been working in the service industry for about two years.
  • Background on Student Loans:
  • Engaged in a cyber security certificate program that did not deliver on its promises, leading to a long-term financial burden.
  • Current student loan debt totals $27,000, ballooning from an initial $17,000.

Major Themes Discussed 1. Financial Situation

  • Income:
  • Hector approximates a monthly income of $3,000 post-tips.
  • Debt Overview:
  • Total debt is $27,131 at 12.37% interest from private student loans.
  • Additional debts include various credit cards with high-interest rates and recent attempts to finance a medical course.
  • Spending Habits:
  • Notable spending on non-essentials and entertainment, including a recent trip to Puerto Rico, has exacerbated his financial woes.
  • 60% of his spending went to 'bullshit' expenses, while only 11% was directed toward debt repayment.

2. Career Uncertainty

  • Professional Direction:
  • Hector is uncertain about pursuing education further or a specific career path, leading to impulsive financial decisions regarding courses and certifications.
  • Has considered tech sales but lacks confidence in his ability to succeed in sales roles.
  • Potential Career Paths:
  • Engaging in customer service roles or sales was suggested as a pathway, with discussions about how he could leverage his people skills in these areas.

3. Emotional and Psychological Factors

  • Impact of Breakup:
  • Hector's recent breakup has led to self-evaluation and acknowledgment of his financial situation.
  • Emphasizes feeling lost and needing direction in life.

Key Takeaways

  • Financial Responsibility:
  • Hector needs to take immediate action to address his debts and cut unnecessary spending.
  • Importance of prioritizing debt repayment over lifestyle choices.
  • Career Exploration:
  • It is crucial for Hector to explore meaningful career paths that align with his interests and skills, rather than jumping into impulsive educational choices.
  • Need for Discipline:
  • Establishing a stricter budget and adhering to it is essential for Hector to regain control over his financial situation.

4. Actionable Steps Moving Forward

  • Debt Repayment Strategy:
  • Focus on paying off high-interest debts first to alleviate financial strain.
  • Create a budget that allocates more funds toward debt repayment and fewer on discretionary spending.
  • Emergency Fund:
  • Emphasis on the necessity of establishing a small emergency fund to avoid further debt in case of unforeseen circumstances.
  • Consider Career Development:
  • Look into customer service certifications or sales training that align with his communication skills.

Closing Remarks

  • Encouragement:
  • Hector is encouraged to take control of his financial situation and prioritize his long-term stability over short-term enjoyment.
  • Potential for Improvement:
  • There is a sense of hope as Hector expresses a desire to improve his financial standing and explore his career paths seriously.

Resources Mentioned

  • Financial Tools: Various budgeting programs and financial management resources shared throughout the episode.
  • Sponsorship: Aura for online security, Moomoo for investment opportunities, and Coursecareers for career training.

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0:00Hi, my name's Hector. I'm 25 years old, based out of Orlando, Florida. and this is financial art you mr hector have a pile of things i have not seen in quite the time you've gotten yourself into a mess um for 25 man i'm a little nervous we'll jump into it we'll get into it first i need to know what you do for a I'm a server. Yeah, pretty much it. I've been serving for a decent bit now going on two years, jumping around from place to place. You have a lot of student loans for someone who's a server. Yeah. The student loans are actually a pretty long story. Before you say the story, did you get a degree?

0:50No, it wasn't for a degree. I had got caught up in a situation where I signed up for a certificate program. I don't really know if I should be like disclosing the school There's like no lawsuits or anything like that But a lot of things were promised And this was when I was I want to say anywhere from 19 to 21 I Kind of like bit into the dream And I went through the process I went through the trial period It was for cyber security So it was a certification for cyber security Yeah and we were told that we were going to get like A lot of things akin to like a boot camp So we were told that we were going to get like practice tests and we were going to get, like, opportunities to take certificate tests, and it never came.

1:34The school that it was with, we never really got access to. I want to say the school, but at the same time, I don't know. You can. It was with, like, UCF. I love the school. I feel like in Florida they provide a lot for the community, but the course wasn't provided through UCF. It was provided from another, like, program, and they just used UCF like as essentially like a headspace. Dude, one of my best friends here in Austin, no degree certification cybersecurity makes over 100 a year. Yeah. That was incredible. That was one of the things that we learned going through the program was like there's a lot of things that you can self-teach yourself.

2:10Sure. Even like when it comes to like the course of boot camps, like the course itself started at$17 ,000, I believe, and that was with a$1 ,000 down payment. That's why I talk about course careers, man. And Corsair is like a few hundred bucks. They don't have cybersecurity yet, but. It's a predicament in which I've been on deferment for so long that I've just. Why are you on deferment? Because I'm still going to school. Still going to school? Yeah. When did you start going to school? It's been on and off since I was like 21. Oh, 21. I've been taking like two classes a semester. And I took two years off when I initially graduated.

2:50I don't know. I don't know if school is necessarily for me Then why are you doing it? If you are asking yourself, is school for me That means we probably at least don't do it Until we say the answer is yes Yeah Is school for me, for a lot of people the answer is going to be yes And that's absolutely fine and there's right ways to go about it Is school for me, you don't know the answer Let's not go borrow Total distributed amount$17 ,000 Which ballooned to$21 ,000 We don't go borrow that if we don't even know If we want to go to school We don't take two classes a semester right now if we don't know if we want to be in school.

3:27Yeah. It's a situation in which I feel like not an identity crisis, but the idea of not knowing what I want to do for a profession. That's fair. Has put me in a predicament where I'm grasping for straws. Have you taken a career quiz? A couple. A lot of them are like communications or like HR. I do enjoy speaking to people. It's just, I don't know. So the idea of school itself hasn't been ideal for me. So it's schooling. It's not the career. To me, it's not even the fact of schooling. It's the amount of time that it takes to get a degree. That's kind of what gets to me. And I actually, I'm enrolled in course careers for tech sales.

4:04But I personally don't feel like I'd be a good agent. And that could be something. As much as I love them, as much as I like that cert. And I was in tech sales and I made money. I made money in tech sales. It was great. It helped me get out of debt. I want you to do that. I want you to take advantage of that. Why pay for that if it's not what you even wanted? If you're not even going to be good at it, why are you doing it? I see it as an option. It's very impulsive. Are you an impulsive person in general? Typically, no, but I feel like there are certain aspects, like my self-evaluation of myself.

4:40A big problem is that lack of direction. So when I feel something that could be an option for direction, I'm like, I gotta go with it. I gotta go with it. Yeah, but there's like a billion options. It's more narrowing down what makes sense for. Okay. So the direction of your life and what you want to do, that's something that's obviously going to have to be a big part of the conversation. I'm sorry. How much did you say you make in your job? I do about$3 ,000 a month. After tips, after. So that's actually, I ran it, rounded out just what I'm taking home daily. It doesn't include what I get on my paycheck, but my paycheck is only$30 a week.

5:16Yeah. So we'll call it 3 ,000? Mm-hmm 100 Including the paycheck I'm part-time So I'm only scheduled two days a week I have the opportunity to pick up Two days a week I have a lot of free time on my hands The Well Why? You know you have like some of the most disgusting debt Humanly possible I know I need a second job Oh You total distributing amount 17 ,000 Current balance 27 ,000 It's gone up$10 ,000 Yeah Why are you Before this He told me he's been watching for a year If you've been watching for a year man Why are you still around Honestly So a big part of it is I'm not making excuses I know that I should have been doing it I just got out of like a long term relationship and I feel like I was very complacent within the relationship and uh it just wasn't something that was on my mind like and I was enjoying life like things day to day and I already know where this is going like oh why enjoy life while having this debt when I could just like sacrifice two years to the rest of my life temporary sacrifice for the rest of your life man um uh I feel like once I kind of like left the relation or well the relationship ended it put me in a predicament where I was more acknowledging my financial mistakes.

6:46And so while I was watching the episodes, I knew that I needed to change things, but just complacency was there. You said this is on deferment. I want to take a brief moment to thank today's episode sponsor, Aura. When you get an unsolicited message, that's because your private information has been bought and sold. And unfortunately, that's done via data brokers who are making a fortune selling your private data on the web. These data brokers often sell your private information to scammers or various fishy websites. Here's where Aura can help you. Aura is able to keep your data safe by automatically scanning the web for your information, ensuring that it stays out of the hands of the wrong people.

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7:58Private information should remain private, so stop letting people profit off of yours and sign up for Aura at aura.com forward slash Caleb or by using the link at the top of the description below. Thanks again to Aura for sponsoring this episode. I made my first payment actually today. I was going to say the date is today. Yeah, I made my first payment today. $420. You're not in school right now. I took this last semester off and the time. How were you paying for school? Financial aid. So this, again, this is something separate to college. When you say financial aid, does this mean federal student loans?

8:35No, no, no. Like they were covering all of my schooling. Yeah, I'm in community college doing like two classes a week. Financial aid covers it. This is something completely different from like my AA. It's for the certification. And like a big red flag that I probably should have followed was like the fact that financial aid didn't cover the course. I don't even know if it was accredited. I learned a lot going through like this whole experience and it's. Well, certifications, they're a really good boost to the resume. They're not necessarily going to be everything. They might help you get your foot in the door, but you're going to have to show, especially in those more tech field in the interview process, the knowledge and the skills.

9:20$27 ,131 at 12.37 % interest. It's fixed. You are beyond lucky that it was fixed It was purposely put on a fixed I had the option to go variable Fixed that 12 % may have felt like death Two years ago But with where it is and where I've seen some people's Sally Mae loans these days Okay Yeah I made it fixed $420 a month $420 a month If I did buy your$3 ,000 That's 14 % of your money 14 % of it And you're probably not claiming tip wages. Yeah, no. Does anyone? I don't know. I don't know if anyone claims tip wages unless it's like forced upon them by the job. Yeah. I mean, I've also like people who are trying to buy like a house or something or like a car, but I know that that's not in my near future.

10:16So no. Yeah. No, not even comparable. Okay. There was one bright spot before we go down the deep abyss of death and insanity. you had a credit one balance and credit ones like evil terrible card of which you've lost $97 in fees this year so far and$40 of interest but you paid it off this was the bright spot this made me happy all right to the darkness we had a solid 15 seconds of joy and happiness and a halo around top of my head and yours now the horns come out we paid off a balance of a card but we immediately put$438 on this card. It's not an excuse. I'm just going to tell you why it happened.

11:01After my breakup, I didn't spiral, but the opportunity arose where my best friends were like, hey, do you want to go to Puerto Rico? And I was like, you know what? I'll handle my debt when I come back. 12 % death private student loans. Let's go to Puerto Rico. Yeah. I paid the balance off, and I had all intentions to keep balance off, But what ended up happening was me and my ex were living together, and my insurance was based off that address. And because I couldn't provide proof of insurance, my insurance went from$220 to over$500. So insurance is back down to$200-something. You moved back in with the fam, if I'm not mistaken, correct?

11:44Yeah. I was paying like$1 ,250 in rent and utilities prior. Yeah, you don't really have a choice. But now I'm paying like$200 in rent and utilities. So on here it's like$438 still, right? No, it's$390 something. So$400. Okay. Great. Okay. Yeah,$400.

12:07Okay. Fun fact! No more trips to Puerto Rico, man. Yeah. Buddy, you can't even afford to live right now. Can't even afford to live right now. Puerto Rico's not... I'm sure Puerto Rico's great. I've never been. Maybe someday. Not when not having a fully funded emergency fund. Not when we're having nothing in retirement. $35. Minimum monthly payment. Oh, it's... I mean, the limit's at$500, dude. It's at$400? Okay. Alright. Pretty high utilization. And of course, what were we doing? We were getting some Mojito Licorio. A Mexican restaurant. And Mojito Licorio again. Church's Chicken. Airport convenience and cowboy chicken.

12:54Very important stuff that are needed. For a point. Foundationcore. Foundationcore.edu. So that's actually something that I also wanted, well, have to bring up. I did it again. It's a$2 ,000 med school course. What the fuck are you doing? I'm grasping for straws. No, you're. So that's a zero. A med school course? It's provided through Advent Health. Advent Health is like, I think they have one here. They have a couple here. Advent? Advent Health. So it's a really big private hospital in Florida, in Central Florida. And they provide schooling. Since I don't work for them. Schooling for what though?

13:38What is it accomplishing? It's an EKG monitor course. It's 0 % interest. I do owe$17.50. it's 0 % interest and it's going to be$100 a month starting 90 days after January 1st. That also causes me a bit of dilemma. How much is owed total again? $1 ,750. Okay. Okay. You're just sending me down a road of emotion so I don't want to... Sure, that's 0 % finance but then you also did like your$250 minimum down payment, I'm thinking. Yeah, so it was a down payment. On a credit card that has a 27.24 % interest rate. Fees and interest is here so far, of course.

14:27Wally World got a card for it. Capital One Walmart. Why do you have a Walmart card, my friend? So this card was opened as well as the Saver One card, which I'm sure is going to come up either next or after the next one is this one specifically, I had to open because I didn't have an emergency fund. I got into an accident and it was considered like cosmetic damage. So I'm technically at fault because I was changing lanes. And when was this? Like it was a while ago, like almost a year ago, maybe actually a little bit over a year. Not having an emergency fund is an emergency. So I opened this card and I had to pull out essentially like taking out cash, like a cash advance.

15:17And I just haven't. I've been distracted and not really focusing on paying it off. But that's the only reason why the card exists. Aside from that, the same thing on the Saver 1 card. It's just that the reason why the balance is so high on the Saver 1 card is because I then had to fix my brakes, which was another$1 ,000 because it was so bad my rotors were grinding down. Yeah. Yeah. We did the minimum monthly payment. $31 of interest was accrued. The balance only decreased by$11. Yeah. That's also something that I just recently noticed because I haven't been. That you're just not making progress because it's a 31.99 % interest, $78 of fees this year so far And$314.20 of interest Okay,

16:11save your Save your card That's the one that I was just talking about With the whole breaks and the Cash advance on the Accident I'll tell you what's not an accident Hitting that subscribe button Because we're trying to get to a million subscribers Thank you to everyone who has subscribed Thank you for subscribing for a year now and thanks for putting your situation on display. Because other people are going to relate to it. There's other people that are like, I don't know what to do in life right now and are taking out debt because they don't have an emergency fund and the cars all the time and you need a car and then our car-driven infrastructure.

16:43So it's just like, I appreciate you for that. Hopefully we get you to do a better situation. But until then, $2 ,783 on this card with an$85 minimum monthly payment, $58 and a cent of interest, accrued in just the last month alone. Only making the minimum monthly payment. Of course, the balance decreased by only like$30, even though you made an$88 payment. Interest,$24.99. $595 of interest accrued this year so far. That sucks. Yeah. It sucks. It is what it is. You did it. Okay, here we go. Okay, so here was a card that was basically paid off, and then you put$69 on it. Now, I'm assuming this is paid off.

17:28Good, but again, why are we going and getting liquor for$70 when we have two credit cards we can't pay off? Actually, three credit cards we can't pay off now, financing a medical program that we're trying to do for something you probably don't even want to do and we're not going to do and you have no interest in doing. I don't even know because who knows. And private student loans at 12.0 % interest rate at$27 ,131, which is 12 % of your take well not even take home your pre yeah but you're not paying your taxes okay I'm actually W2 the taxes do come out of my paycheck but you don't claim well cash so it gets taken out of your$3 an hour or whatever it is it's actually$8 an hour $8 an hour the reason it's so little is because you work 2 days a week $102 in interest is used so far and$50 of fees.

18:27We have all this debt. We're not going to the liquor store every second of our life. And by the way, two statements now, three liquor store trips within a month. I want to go ahead and preface by saying I'm not an alcoholic, nor do I drink a lot. It's just that I went. I'm not suggesting. The month of October, I did go to a lot of events. And with that being said, I didn't want to show up empty handed. It's not an excuse. Yeah, you should show up to events without debt is what I say. Yeah. Or else we're probably not going to events where we're going to work. Instead of working two days a week, we're working seven.

18:59Now, you just take out these insane interest rate loans at stores. So I'm guessing this is a firm or something. Yeah, so it is a firm. The one from Best Buy is the larger balance one. During my relationship, I kind of was realizing what a couple of my wrongdoings. I had bought a TV. Is that what this is? Yeah. A TV at 35.98 % interest. Yeah. Must be a great TV. It's a Sony. It's pretty nice. Sony what? I don't, I couldn't tell you the exact. Is it OLED? I believe so, yeah. It's, um, uh, it was just like, it was impulse. Like my ex wanted it and I was like, you know what? So then you financed it at 35.98%.

19:47Yeah. With a$102 minimum monthly payment. Lovely. You've paid$392 at this point,$225 remaining, with payments of$75. Living your life, minimum payment to minimum payment. It's the American way. You're living the average American. I'm making sure I dig in on your situation just so you know, for the true first time in your life how actually bad and devastating and how much this is holding you back because I want you to succeed so bad. You know how cool it is whenever I get updates in the private discord from guests or emails when they're making progress that means people have come here sat at my table had a conversation with me and they've improved their life you know how awesome that is it's insane.

20:39First we need I need you to know just how bad this is. What kind of situation when you got yourself in. This is, if you watch Kitchen Nightmares, this is the point where I'm going in and I'm smelling the old moldy food and I'm throwing up. I'm throwing up at your debt right now. Let's get you to the better spot. Love you, Gordon Ramsay. Let's collaborate. We do love Gordon Ramsay. No way he knows what this show is, but I do love you, Mr. Gordon. Master Chef is my show. Okay. And then an Amazon, Amazon Affirm or something? Yeah. It was nothing dude It was like$100 Oh so this was for Honestly me getting this affirmed Was like I think I had like rent coming up When I lived with my ex You have rent coming up and you can't afford rent Do you then go buy this I could afford rent I couldn't afford rent and the bar Exactly so do you go buy this No Sorry that just kills me That just logically Like I felt a worm in my brain nibble on me.

21:41A worm of stupidity from that kind of thought. I know you recognize this dumb now, so I don't have to dig into you as much, but whoa, that one. Because I know there's people out there who still think that right now. People have been on the show. You bought stool benches? It was bar stools. It was a pair of two bar stools. Honestly, I'd purchase it again. I wouldn't affirm it, obviously, because once those affirmations are gone, there's no more. Yeah, necessary to survival, isn't it? $47 is the remaining. Okay. $7 Oh Oh it's$15.95 They're a monthly payment Okay That's a lot of debts Now this was insane Okay so the EKG we already went through that You borrowed from your grandpa Yeah I'm sure that I mean I don't think he cares About the fact that No because he probably loves to yeah but like even still though shout out my grandpa he's the best um i the whole owing the money to my grandfather is like a thing of like me personally i just want to make sure that he gets that money back um yeah how old's your grandpa um mid 60s okay yeah young grandpa yeah oh yeah my parents are young my grandparents are pretty young for what grandparents are yeah yeah um he never he's never what was it for uh it was for the down payment on my car so that like that's literally the only you know what you know what's interesting before i got my together i borrowed a similar amount for my grandparents early my grandparents for a down payment on a car yeah my car is very similar paid off um the only thing that i did have help with was the 15 uh it was 2000 initially i've given him 500 since then actually this is this is kind The Affirm stuff wasn't around when I was going through messes.

23:36Trust me, I would have been in a worse mess if it was. But pretty similar. I had Sally Mae private student loans, which is you have it. She's a... The biggest... Yeah, and I borrowed from my grandparents who were down payment. I had a few credit cards that were close to max out. Our situations were very similar. Mine was slightly worse technically because I just had more debt itself. But, man, I got out of it. I turned my life around well before YouTube, you know, well before I made a good amount of money. You can too. You can too. And that's actually just that clicked in my brain. It's like. I will say that I am very hopeful.

24:16Like I do think that, I don't know, it's just a position of like the idea of who I want to be as an adult. I feel like my finances are currently playing like a big role in like me not being that person. And I understand like everyone's a work in progress, but I do. But this last year, you haven't really changed anything. Yeah. Or maybe you haven't. It was worse before. So I'm going to go ahead and say this. Like, my breakup was a big part of this self-evaluation. And that happened, like, two months ago. Two months ago. Yeah. I'm not sitting here saying, like, this past year. Who broke up with who?

24:48She broke up with me, but I kind of understand. Yeah, but that always. We were both very complacent. But it feels worse. Yeah. It feels worse. Yeah. I mean.

25:00it do but um i do feel like that's also like played a big part of like my mental in terms of like going out and doing things and like now i feel like it's not like formal but like the idea of like wanting to go hang out with my friends and like wanting to go like to parties or like wanting to go just like hang out in general it's like time to hang out in the restaurant and make money and pay off the desk and you have an amazing life. Yeah. And who knows? Maybe some cute patron will leave you their number. I'm not worried about it. They might leave you their number, though. I feel like I'm okay with being single for a little while.

25:37I got a lot of stuff to work on. Yeah. How long was the relationship? Three years. Almost three years. You'll need it. You'll need it. Yeah, I'm okay. $295 in checking account. It's a little scary. You sell out money like nobody's business. Okay, so. Is that to the ex? Yeah. It's a long story. my sister's dog attacked my mom's dog over food it has nothing to do with me okay um so my parents aren't financially sound i love them they're great people when it comes to finances they're not necessarily the best um no emergency fun yeah no emergency fun um one of the dogs the dog who got attacked his eye was hanging out and my ex went to the vet with my mom and um my ex was way better with finances than I was um I can't speak for her position but I know she's more financially savvy than I was and she went with my mom to the vet and I was current I was at work at the time and so because there was no emergency fund the vets told my mom that if she couldn't get the funds together that night they were gonna put him down so they oh my god so my ex paid for it um my mom was taking a really long time to pay her back um and my ex never like pushed her for it not that they didn't have a financing um my mom didn't uh get approved for the financing options due to her bad finances like it was like stuff that still needed credit approval and um so essentially like when me and my ex broke up i told my ex that i wasn't gonna like force my mom to pay her back so i took on the responsibility of the debt um so that was a combination of that and um i had went to new york in the beginning of june um it was for my uh cousin sweet 16 and that i gave her like Like, I had still older a little bit.

27:25I thought you were going to say wedding. I would have been like. No, no, no, no, no. Sweet 16, who gives up? Closest cousin. That's awesome. Maybe don't have death and you can buy our pony someday. Yeah. But, yeah, that's what the Zelle is. And then, aside from that, all of the Zelle transfers, I use Wells Fargo because Capital One doesn't have the best ATM system or kind of like a non-existent ATM system because they're an online bank. So essentially what I do is I get paid in cash nightly And then I immediately go to the bank And I deposit that money and then sell it to myself So that's the only reason why there's so much I know you're not going to highlight them Because they're coming in, not going out But that's the only reason why Zelle comes up so much Gotcha There should only be like a couple Zelles going out Well, there's quite a few So that makes sense And I respect you paying that off That was the right thing to do That was the right thing to do Not the right thing to do taquitos mcdonald's we have apple bills up like crazy then taquitos and apple bills and amazon and carna and affirm studio movie gr castillo tours for 138 probably can't afford that tour whatever the tour is some potential taquitos and seafood and movie house i uh or studio movie sorry that was i mean that's 37 that should go towards sally may apple bill apple bill affirm kitty Osha's Irish Pub SeaWorld don't need to be doing SeaWorld when Sally Mae is there French Wine Kiosk Tudor Italia Zellin' Out Money Regal Eagle Bar Spice Road Bar Lake Glaz Porzella Lake Buena Mexico Pavilion Joy of TT Pizza Hut Affirm Hulu Zumez Zellin' Out Money Hollister Hollister Express Popeyes I bet you had clothes Did you have clothes Did clothes exist Clothes existed Okay Not nice clothes Well I don't give a About that That's Hollister It's not nice clothes anyway I'm not gonna say that This was a unique month Because Wait you need to look like A little twink 10 years ago For one This is all for the The Puerto Rico trip And it Like I find a way to spend Spend money This was just the way To spend money Yeah Yeah you do All of this stuff was For the Puerto Rico Got a super tight shirt And then you went to Popeyes so that they wouldn't fit.

29:48H &M. Taquitos. American Eagle Outfit. Zelle. Zelle. Asian. Chow. Some past retail. Chick-fil-A. The past is... That's tools. Okay. That's expensive. Roku. I can't speak for everywhere. If you lived in Austin, I would say you didn't need to take... No. So I can tell you straight up that the commute to my job would be... it would be twice as long without, like you're talking about the difference between 30 minutes to an hour and 15 minutes commute if I didn't take the toll road. Normally I would say, oh, okay, but you probably could also just wake up. Earlier, yeah, I mean. You could. I mean,$50 doesn't make or break, but it's all this added together, and you're spending money, and money's just going other places because you're not sacrificing, because you're not actually taking care of the debt that is holding you back.

30:38Oh, okay, so I see the Zells now. Those are all Zell's in which we were in Puerto Rico, and I was Zelling somebody my portion of dinner or something. So it's more you do now. Okay. Yeah, essentially. Zell, Zell, Asian, the past thing, Chick-fil-A, Roku, Champs, because let me guess, you did not have shoes. I didn't have sandals, and we went to the beach. I went with Vans and only Vans. Sandals? They were Crocs. Really nice Crocs. This is where I go to Amazon and get me a$10 sandals. My friend actually bought $5 sandals from Walmart Right prior to that Terrible burgers Mini donuts There's more tolls Dude that's$100 now Zelling out Eating out Getting out Getting out Getting some pizza Eating out What are you The amount of money You're spending Also I'm just going to go ahead And say this I never really realized How much I was going out Until you're reading the statements Yeah that's how it typically works That's why I do it.

31:38That's why I do it. It's not necessarily the most entertaining part of the episode, but it's very important to do. It's very important to do. You're going crazy with your spending. Your miscellaneous taquito bull spending, 20 % of your spending. I believe it. 20 % of your spending. Do you also believe this? Also, bull food going out to eat, an additional 23%. So now we're talking 45%. 45 % of your spending went to bull. Minimum 45%. Unknown shopping. We don't know if it's bull**** or not. It's Walmart. It's Amazon. You don't know. It's probably bull**** the way you do it. I'm going to go ahead and chalk it up.

32:13Go ahead. Yeah. No, because. So now 55%. 55 % total. Lovely. Yeah, we could call it bull****. Let's see. Oh, there's Zelle out. And we know the Zelle out. Other than the thing you should have done, which is great. All the Zelle out, we're eating out to eat. So I'll say the majority of that was paying back mom, paying back ex-girlfriend for mom. I'm going to round it off to 60 then. 60 % went to bulls**t. Bulls**t. 60%. How much went in debt? 11%. 60 % to bulls**t. 11 % to debt. That's choices, man. That's you saying you're now in me existing, getting that little reward. the dopamine hits is much more important in this exact moment than taking a temporary sacrifice as you even said at the beginning for decades decades and decades of your life you have left that could be so much better it's you choosing that you're choosing that right now man you have control you can live a better life just comes down to your discipline and of the money that came in You're lucky.

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33:31You're lucky. Another reason you can afford things, you got your tax refund of$1 ,400. Yeah. Because someone doesn't claim this money. No, no, no. That's not why. It was because I didn't get a stimulus check. So that's why someone's money came in. No, but that number would not be that if you're... No, my stimulus brought in$1 ,200. It probably would have been... No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. I get what you're saying. I would have paid way more in taxes because I would have been claiming my cash. Why should the refund have been the same? Because it would have been taken... Well, it depends. I would have been paid out less.

33:59Yes, exactly. I understand that, but I wouldn't have had to pay back taxes. These are very important rules. If you want to live a good life and you just don't want to be a f***er, these are the good rules. You need an emergency fund. Rule number two, you're breaking that. Does that fit in the budget? No, 60 % was bulls***. It doesn't. So breaking number one. And number two, don't hold a credit card balance. Breaking number three. I actually brought my credit card to set that up. To chop? Good. Do you have a car? I do. My car's paid off. You have a car loan? Good. Good. You're not breaking rule number four.

34:30I will say though. Live someplace you can actually afford. You're living with family. You're doing good with that. Stop around with work. Rule number six. You are around with work. Rule number six. This is a very important rule for him. That's why we have this rule book. You can get it in the description below. You're around with work, dude. You're working two hours a week. Two hours a week at a job that is not making you as much as you can make because you just keep bailing on everything you try to do and you just don't focus up on what you want to do. You take these different programs, sign up for everything.

35:01You're with work. So speak on like the work position. Speak on it. I, the reason why my work predicament is what it is, is because I make a decent amount of money. Like I'm bringing in$3 ,000 a month on three days a week of work. I get scheduled two days, but I try to pick up anywhere from two to three extra shifts. And if you can't, you get another job as well. But we just recently went through slow season. So like I pulled in almost. How is that slow season? Winter is not slow season? No, we're coming out of slow season. So, like. So, summer is slow season? No, September. Like, when kids. August, late August to, like, mid-October is the slow season for restaurants everywhere, not just where I work.

35:41Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because parents are going back. Or parents are, like. Sorry. Less likely to spend money. Sorry, just interrupting. The context is because I know where you work. We're not going to say it. But, I mean, that's why I was so confused in the moment. But it's, like, the restaurant industry. I mean, that specific place. It's a special place. Yes, but it does have down times. I still make decent money for restaurants because of where I work, but the restaurant industry as a whole slows down drastically from like mid-August to mid-October. How is that place in the winter though? Is it going to pick up?

36:15It's brand new. So it should because it's very unique in what it is. Rule number seven, school can be cool. This is just, you got to do it right, man. And you've not been doing it right. You've been signing up for every program. You're the first one to break rule number seven since we've created this. Yeah, because you're just doing everything and everything. You're taking every certification. You're doing everything. You're borrowing Sally Mae, all this around. It can be cool. You're doing it wrong. So you're breaking what? Five, six rules out of the how to not be a list. Why not? Yeah, retirement is retirement.

36:50Cancel your subscriptions. I didn't see a ton of them, but that's rule number 10. I do have a couple Well not anymore Heard All this debt See this No more Well that did not work No more None of that spending We could have just pretended it did But But Yeah Okay Okay I get the symbolism We can make the budget We can do all this And I want to It doesn't matter If you don't stop F***ing around If you actually take control Are you going to Even though you've been watching this content for a year and that's what last month looked like, are you going to actually, for the first time in your life, actually give a shit and actually take control and not end up towards the list?

37:33Yeah. I can say that with 100 % confidence. And also, to preface the whole me watching the show thing, I've been watching the show for a long time, and me watching the show was not the thing that made me say, oh, yeah, let me fix my situation. It was the more recent stuff. The breakup? Yeah, in general. um i was knowledgeable about my predicament being bad i wasn't um not necessarily driven but focused on it um i do feel like i said earlier like there's a certain interpretation of who i want to be as a person and tell me so i want to be reliable like i want to be someone that like can be counted on i want to be somebody who um not only looks like they have their together but like has their together like i don't want to be a typical person that's like like for instance I love them great people again like my parents like they're not the most financially sound um and I want to be somebody that people can come to for advice or like information or like lead as an example to say all right this is what or like what I should be doing essentially well I do want to say I mean you made a step towards that uh paying back your girlfriend who helped make sure that that dog wasn't put down that night that was a big step that's a responsible it shows you're responsible shows that you know you have the maturity inside of you so we just need to harness that energy um i will say like i think it's definitely been like a discipline thing a combination of things like i know it's a lack of discipline it's a lack of like a big thing is like fomo like i hate missing out on stuff and then like going to work and then like i said i work two days a week a lot happens within you know it's a big fomo though i'll tell you this edging towards 60 everyone else is retiring around you and you're dying at walmart and dying on the floor that'll be a pretty big FOMO everyone else to go on their retirement vacations driving topless Corvettes sure and you know maybe the people they're driving with is topless too maybe this is an amazing day maybe retirement's fantastic you can't wait but I actually say that too I mean I know my retirement's not looking too hot but well actually I didn't have a statement for it what's in there's no retirement but I'm saying like yeah that's not too hot yeah yeah okay if you're gonna use a card man use the fizz card i i even actually say that for you because the benefits are geared towards college students i just like them and i like partnering with them because i know everyone on this show you want to use credit cards you want to build credit so at least take advantage of that i'm gonna be 100 % honest i'm probably not even gonna do that just because i feel like hey you do you like i feel like my credit isn't gonna help me with anything particularly right right now but that's right right now right now i feel like i'm more worried about the debt as opposed to me fixing my credit oh it's just gonna capture your rent but you don't have rent do you give your family anything okay and then you don't add anything to utilities or anything either it's just flat 200 good that's gonna save you yeah it's gonna save you my goodness how does the grocery and food situation and uh preparing meals work at the home um my mother cooks dinner and i do have the option to eat it but typically uh i've been like trying to like lose weight and like get into shape so i've been like cooking for Are there unhealthy meals?

40:39A lot of fried stuff because I'm Puerto Rican, and Puerto Ricans eat a lot of fried food.

40:45Balancing with the food. Okay. So can we say$200 a month on groceries where that gives you the food options to cook when something is unhealthy and then eat what is prepared and healthy when she makes that? Also, portion control helps as well, but I know it's not as easy as that. I've kind of been meal prepping in a way. So like Okay 300 I'll give you the traditional 300 That we have proven works for A single individual Yeah and then I'll go ahead and promise that if there's any excess balance I'll put it towards my debt Damn right Toilet paper anything to keep you alive Giving you 50 I do buy all of my toiletries This is everything you need for Surviving I'm giving you 50 though Okay I'll give you 75 Okay Gas that's steep um well honestly it's not that bad um gas was really expensive in florida at some point in time but now it's starting to go back down um i'll go ahead and say say i do like 40 a week oh yeah so like 160 what's that i mean it'd be 120 but oh yeah yeah sorry no it's okay um no how 40 a week there's four weeks in a month it'd be 160.

42:08I'm the dumb one. Public math is hard. On the spot. You are right. You're right. Okay. So 160 for that. Car insurance.

42:23220. I don't know if it's 220 or 220. I just recently switched car insurance. I did 228, but eee. Yeah, I was with. 100 for tolls. Yeah, that's perfect. we'll see if that fits in I know that it probably would still be like I don't know you're going to have to do the math yeah I've been told well the thing is that I've been told math wise it makes more sense to like take the toll maybe but I've never fact checked myself so I probably should I mean you're also putting mileage on your car maintenance I mean you never know okay and phone bill one I want to say 150 you pay for it right yeah Yeah How's health insurance right now?

43:07Non-existent Are your parents on health insurance? I couldn't tell you Well, this would have been your last year to be on there Yeah, no, no, no I was on my dad's insurance I might honestly still be I don't know if it gets cut soft at 25 I think it's 26 if I'm not mistaken No, it's definitely 25 Is it 25? Yeah, I actually had a predicament in which I didn't have to go to the doctor But I chose to go to the doctor Because I was in my last year of insurance And they told me it was 25 I just don't know if it's like cut off at the year of 25 or like right before the year of 25 because I was still 24.

43:38Oh, okay. Yeah. I do have like some basic care through my job. So like I do get free therapy. Good. But in terms of like getting a physical and like all of that stuff. Well, are you on any medication? No. Okay. So I don't need to put anything in for medical? Okay.

43:58I'd like to think, knock on wood, that I'm pretty healthy. Sure. No subscriptions. I do have some subscriptions No no no not in your budget I'm saying like Currently I do have Yeah they'll be cancelled I'm just I'm checking that I'm probably just I'm probably just brain No it is 26 it's when you turn 26 In the state of Florida? No nationwide it's national law When they pass the ACA I guess I probably do still have insurance For another half a year okay even still man i'd recommend it um it's gonna be hard you know you might be on the exchanges at your my ex is doing like public insurance and yeah she makes a similar wage to what i do and let's get you to make more money and figure out a career path that's what i want let's get you a place that offers so um i was gonna ask you because i did have full intentions to go through this ekg course and i did want to get like you paid for you better uh no i'm gonna complete it but in terms of like getting a job yeah starting pay is like 15 an hour and then like the max pay is like 18 how many hours though don't you get the can't you can't you work like 80 hours a week i'm hoping it'd be a full-time job um currently like so for instance me going through the slow season i've only really been able to work two to three shifts um a week which has put me at a little bit below 3 000 but when it's busy i'm at an opportunity to make an expo like a crazy amount more so like for instance um i was making uh four thousand dollars a month um doing like in in the summers and that was me working three to four instead of two to three coming into the winter i should be able to work four to five i mean just do whatever makes mathematical sense but also think of the career path that you'll want to go on medical you can typically work yeah but okay so for preference my friend makes um a similar way to what i'd be making in the ukg course and i make more than what he makes currently working at the hospital okay there you go if that's not in the car you want to go down then i mean it's just it's really hard i trust me i want to work i it's really hard to get full-time where i work um no that's fine So we get a second A second job Yeah Okay anything else In your budget That I'm missing We have Rent food Toiletries Toiletries And Gas tolls Gas tolls Car insurance Phone Off the top of my head Okay well I gotta get your Debt minimum monthly payments Obviously

46:33I'm gonna put the hundred in Cause that's gonna start In a second For the In a couple months Yeah so we may as well Put that in for simplicity's sake. A couple months goes by quick. Yeah, no surprise. Your biggest holder of your budget is your debt at$774 a month. Which is wild.

47:00So, you should have an extra$1 ,000 left over, man. It should be a bit more than that. What do you have my budget at? $1 ,987? No, that's not right. I make let's see 774 oh whoa whoa you said how much do you have me making a month 3000 okay cool yeah so we're right you made me delete that I'm sorry before I could write it down I'm sorry so my minimum debt payments are almost$800 almost so you need in order to survive 1 ,800 1 ,987 you live with your family so I'm gonna take a more risky avenue instead of doing the one month emergency fund like we normally do. You live with family. You have a backdrop.

47:42If you need to eat, you can eat their food. They're not going to let you die on the street, Ivo. Not very accommodating. Oh, Grandpa. I forgot about Grandpa. How much is Grandpa? $1 ,500. Are there minimum payments or is it just payback? Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if he totally forgot about it. You haven't. No, never could I ever. According to the survey I ran, 33 % of you are not investing. So I don't know if you just want me to yell at you or if you're genuinely unsure of how to get started. Either way, you need to know about the brokerage app that I personally use for my single stock picks.

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50:22Because. Well, no. I'm sorry. And you're killing the Amazon. The reason you do them is because we're freeing up minimum monthly payments right now. You free up the minimum monthly payments, you're able to start throwing that into the other debt. Okay. What were you going to say? No, what I said is just. So, like, I think I save, like, seven bucks if I pay off the Amazon firm. And then I think I save, like, 30 bucks if I pay off the. and that's without the payments that I've just made. We're freeing up minimum monthly payment and we're taking care of 35 % death insanity interest rate. Amazon Best Buy Discovery paid off by the end of this month.

50:57This month. This month. Paid off. Not a question. So Affirm and Discovery. Yep. Okay. Cool. Next month. Walmart Capital One dead. And$500. Wait. No, we're going to save Grandpa to the end. $500 will be thrown towards...

51:24Wouldn't it be the saver one? Maybe. Medical school is next and snowball, but that doesn't necessarily make sense. It doesn't have any interest. I know. When does interest accrue on it? It never does. So it's$100 forever? Yeah. No interest. Okay. Minimum monthly payment until it's paid off. So we put that towards Sally Mae next then. Sally Mae$500 is put towards it And that's the end of month number two We're making progress quick man Quick because you're actually taking control of your life for the first time in your mother's life So this is great This is incredible This is awesome for the first time ever Cool $2 ,000 left Oh sorry I read Sally Mae's$2 ,000 Not$27 ,000 Nevermind Okay yep you threw the$500 towards the savior

52:13Wonderful So month number three then

52:20Month number three we should be paying off the Savior card Just about A little hangover into month number four A little, a couple bucks Cool, month number four Because of Sally Mae's insane I'd love to pay off Grandpa because Sally Mae's insane I had full intentions to pay him off Because this is going to make me sound really here uh well no it's something in which and why i would want to pay off to sally may before my grandfather as well he actually co-signed for me on that loan so the debt is also in his name just as much as it is it at just as much as it is in mine so absolutely yeah absolutely good call 25 000 left at that time probably we'll see i don't know okay so throwing

53:09um do you know what I did wrong no I'm assuming something that's gonna no the situation's been going way too fast because for some reason I was throwing what your monthly budget is towards it and not the extra thousand so well but that's okay because we can easily map that so it takes twice as long so it's taking twice as long so we're headed into month number six six now. Well, no, no, no, no. Cause we were headed into month number three. So it took two months. No, well, yeah. Eight. Cause you had hangover from month number three into month number four for my saver one card. So no, see, that's what I thought.

53:48You, uh, four and a half months from now. Um, so I'm calling that, uh, a total of this being one month. This is going to be the half month. So four months from now. So we're going to be starting, let's call this month one. it's going to take five months. We're starting month number six now. Okay. Month number six now. Month number six, we've taken care of Capital One, Discover, Savior, Best Buy, Amazon. Okay. So, you'll have a little extra money left over, not too much. I mean, we have an extra couple hundred bucks we can start throwing towards things, $25 ,000. Divide that by, let's call it$1 ,200 now.

54:3321 months. And that's where the don't f*** around with your work how to not be a f*** rule applies here. You need to make more money. We're getting a second job if you can't get enough hours. You're doubling your income. It's really not a choice. I want this to be paid off in a year once you start it. Not two years. Okay. So that's what I need you to do. If not, now we're two years and almost a quarter into this process. and we can finally pay grandpa off. Yeah. Unacceptable. I need you to get year and a half, year and a half, you're through all the credit cards and the affirms and Sally Mae, year and a half, sacrificing everything, living with your family, not spending any money on fun.

55:14You can go have fun. It's free. Swim in the ocean. You're pretty close to it. That's super close. Actually, no, I'm not. You're pretty close compared to most people. Well, Orlando, Central Florida. I know, but what is it, like three hours? Less, actually. There you go. You're close to an ocean. I'm not close at all. Dude, I'm from the Midwest. You're close to the ocean. Oh my gosh. You're close to the ocean. It would have taken me 12 hours to get to the ocean where I'm from. Three hours now. But no one likes going to f***ing Galveston to swim. I don't know. Because it's gross. I couldn't tell you what Galveston is.

55:45Nasty. Never heard of it. Nasty water. Okay. That's what I want you to do is a year and a half I want you to do it. Or you can send this to two and a half years. That doesn't make sense though. I would like to get it Obviously done sooner rather than later So I agree with you on that front I do want To wait until after the winter To get a second job just because I know that this is a big opportunity for me to make A lot of money No I don't think you heard what I said If you can't get the money at your job If you can't get the hours at your job You get the second job Work as much as you can at that job You're picking up extra if you're not getting it Okay You're working Well how many hours a week Are you gonna work Oh five shifts So anywhere Okay So go pick up two shifts Somewhere else Okay You don't need to have A life right now man Okay You really don't You just broke up You're taking a break anyway So if you're hooking up With people That's gonna take like Two hours of your time Cool Great So like Just work Work Yeah You may as well For your future Yeah It's worth it man I promise Again I was in worse death than this.

56:57I was in worse death than this. I sacrificed. I sacrificed hard. Life well before I started YouTube. Fantastic. Incredible. Yeah. Because I actually sacrificed and did what was necessary. Do that now. Yeah. And then pay your grandpa off. I would minimum monthly payment. The little med thing you took out until it's paid off. After that, you need to get a fully funded emergency fund or whatever your apartment. Because you can move on at that time. We need to start thinking about careers too. Gosh. oh there's we could talk for another hour just on that um i've done a lot of like career aptitude tests and like i've done like i know but then you just randomly go sign up for other bulls i think yeah that's 100 correct i don't disagree with that i just feel like i can't really see myself not see myself doing anything because i know what i like to do like i do like talking to people communicating i do like um like presenting myself in a professional manner in a social setting the problem is that I can't see myself doing anything to where it's like if you like talking to people why do you think you're going to be bad in sales I went through the whole um not the whole course careers things but like halfway through I kind of realized that there was a lot of aspects about the job that I'm not like like too comfortable what about sales in general outside of tech was it the tech component uh no it wasn't the tech component it was the sales component like I don't like the idea of having to like pester people and like go back like three four or five times to then sales yeah it's i'm not afraid of like hard work it's just that i don't want to inconvenience anybody by like being like hey i know i've talked to you four times but here i am another week away talking to you a fifth time you know what i mean like that's not something in which i feel but comfortable i will say this and this is a light but i mean sometimes i mean yeah you're right you could get a job and you know you're selling and that sucks but you could get a job where you're actually selling something that is like helpful and good yeah and if you're pestering and you actually make a sale on that that could be something that's actually beneficial to that person so it doesn't all equal bad yeah you're right there are some that are i just feel like that component is there whether it's a good part well product or not like the way i see it is like so if i have something that benefits your life and i do genuinely feel like it'd make your company a better company or i do feel like it'd be positive addition to your life if you don't want it for yourself i don't want to feel like i'm like what about customer support i could do that like work work in customer uh maybe a certification customer service like you don't need that to get an entry level customer service job but what i would want you to get on is not a temporary customer service job is to get into the door in customer service and start making your way up yeah customer service manager start looking at something like that if you're a people person if you like working in the professional setting if you like all that it screams that if you like helping people it screams that yeah customer service isn't the you know call center tech job for seven bucks an hour yeah that's not what i'm talking about so i'm talking maybe maybe looking for a certification for that not that i want you to go get your millionth uh but that might be worth something considering yeah i was gonna say go on you know you need to think long and hard about that what i need you to do and you can do that while you're doing this but what i need you to do now is take care of this debt for the first time in your life get a six-month emergency fund then you have nothing in retirement at 25 that's terrifying you start contributing 20 to retirement after you get a fully funded emergency fund and all bad debts are paid off yeah do that so you have a chance for future um i will say um the company i work for is opening some newer restaurants so um this new restaurant that I just like was a part of the opening team for I was hoping to get full-time out of it and it just didn't work out that way um so there's gonna be sometimes don't work out another opportunity for me to get a full-time position I'm actually like like I'm trying to like study wines and stuff like that and um all right well we just found another well no no it's not I'm already in the profession of serving so I could see myself being a full-time to do you can see yourself doing it there's an option but you took all those other things so is there option what do you want to do i don't know i couldn't tell you okay it's my it's been my lifelong question since i've graduated high school you've discovered through court uh career quizzes that maybe hr and stuff like that but you just don't want to do the college necessary yeah that's exactly it you've accumulated a lot of credit hours over the years have you not um there's like a good two or three semesters where i just gave up halfway through so i'm like right at my aa in general studies.

1:01:39So I would then need to transfer to a bachelor's degree and then do whatever prereqs are required there, which, I mean, for communications probably wouldn't be anything crazy. All right, man. That's something you're going to have to figure out a path on. You need to think long and hard. Don't just jump at something, though. Any opportunity, especially when it costs money, don't just jump at something just because it's an option. No more of that. I thought I learned that lesson with the whole UCF cybersecurity thing. And then like the medical opportunity presented itself. And I was like, boom, that's what my identity is going to be for the next few months.

1:02:15And I'm ahead in the course, but it's just a matter of whether or not I want to pursue it as a career. Cause I want you to get in the career path so you can start investing as well. Because I mean, that's, that's the scary part is because right now you have nothing and you're losing the best decade of, you know, compound growth. And like, it's not complicated either. Like, man you take your 401k you do like a roth ira and once you've maxed out all that stuff out if you don't even want to think about it you can just like throw money at vora you know i've started putting money in there and i get a one percent match after a couple years of vesting it's it's good stuff man yeah it's good stuff and i need you to take advantage of that but there's so many steps we have to do first so focus on the now yeah focus on the now then i'll get out of debt get a fully front of the emergency fund yeah sounds like a plan any questions any final thoughts No, no questions.

1:03:03I guess I just want to say thank you for the opportunity. It's been a first of many for me to come here. Like, it's the first time traveling by myself. Wow. With no other, like, partners or siblings or anything like that. So that was, like, a new experience. This is the first time I've ever, like, exposed to, like, a camera or film. So it's also a pretty cool experience. And I do genuinely want to fix my predicament. So that's probably, like, the biggest thank you. For spending in a budget, I mean, come on. 60 % going to both when barely anyone's going towards debt. That's a zero out of 10. Hard, strict, right there.

1:03:36Debt, as bad as you can get without collections or IRS debt. So one out of 10. Merchants fund, there's nothing. Zero out of 10. Retirement savings, there's nothing. Zero out of 10. Real estate, there's nothing. Zero out of 10. So that's going to be a hammer financial score. Zero out of 10. Make sure to check out all the resources linked in the description below, like the budgeting course and other resources that I personally use or would use in specific situations. thanks to all of our patreon producers for making this episode possible if you want to participate in an episode of financial audit and you're able to make it to austin texas please fill out an application in the survey linked in the description below you can also send a link to your friends or family who you think might be good to be on the show if you have any questions you can email

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