How Is This Possible... | Financial Audit

26 Jan 2026 · 1 h 36 min · 34 chapters

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Podcast Episode Summary: Financial Audit - How Is This Possible...

Overview In this episode of *Financial Audit*, host Caleb Hammer engages with a guest named Bianca, who is a single mother living in Tucson, Arizona. The conversation revolves around her financial struggles, decisions regarding her children’s education and her plans for cosmetic surgery, as well as her general attitude towards money management and spending.

Key Themes and Concepts

  1. Current Financial Situation
  2. Income: Bianca brings home approximately $5,000 a month.
  3. Expenses: She has significant monthly expenses, including a mortgage of $2,093.36, which puts her in a precarious financial situation.
  4. Debt: Bianca has about $37,000 in debt excluding her mortgage and wishes to finance additional expenses (like her backyard renovation and cosmetic surgery), which would increase her total debt.
  1. Debt Management and Spending Patterns
  2. Bianca admits to having “spending amnesia,” where she avoids checking her bank account until absolutely necessary, leading to overspending.
  3. She frequently relies on credit cards, accruing high-interest debt that she struggles to manage effectively.
  4. The discussion highlights her tendency to prioritize short-term desires (e.g., vacations, cosmetic surgery) over long-term financial stability, such as saving for her children’s education.
  1. Parental Responsibilities and Financial Goals
  2. Bianca expresses a desire to pay for her children's college education but is unsure how she will afford it, especially given her current financial status.
  3. Conversations about her children reveal her conflicting desires to provide for them while also indulging in her personal wants.
  1. Personal Choices and Relationships
  2. Bianca discusses her previous marriages and how financial irresponsibility played a role in both relationships.
  3. The episode touches on themes of self-image and personal fulfillment, as she shares her motivations behind seeking cosmetic surgery and her approaches to dating.
  1. Financial Planning and Advice
  2. Caleb challenges Bianca to reassess her spending habits and offers insights on budgeting, emphasizing the importance of tracking expenses and prioritizing financial obligations.
  3. He stresses the need for Bianca to create a budget that accommodates her debts, necessary expenses, and savings for emergencies and retirement.

Key Takeaways

  • Financial Awareness: Understanding one’s financial situation is crucial to making sound decisions. Ignoring financial realities can lead to deeper debt and stress.
  • Budgeting: Having a clear budget and sticking to it is essential for managing finances effectively.
  • Long-Term Planning: Setting realistic long-term financial goals (like saving for children’s education) should take precedence over immediate wants.
  • Behavioral Change: Positive financial change requires active participation and a willingness to face uncomfortable truths about spending habits.

Conclusion This episode of *Financial Audit* serves as a candid exploration of personal finance challenges faced by many individuals, especially single parents. Through Bianca's story, listeners can reflect on their financial habits, the importance of budgeting, and the impacts of personal choices on long-term financial health.

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Guest Introduction and Icebreaker

0:56 to 1:20

Bianca introduces herself and engages in playful banter about life experiences.

“When you put it out there that you're going to like set a goal and you're intentional with it, you can put it on your board.”

Living with Financial Amnesia

1:20 to 1:52

Discussion about avoiding checking bank accounts and the consequences of spending.

“Hammer Elite is the best YouTube membership on the platform, and I just upgraded it.”

Bianca's Life and Kids

1:52 to 4:08

Bianca shares her background, kids’ ages, and reflections on motherhood.

“I'm 38 and I live in Tucson, Arizona, and this is Financial Audit.”

Balancing Income and Expenses

4:08 to 6:25

Exploration of Bianca's job, income, and financial aspirations for her children's education.

“And Tucson is not one of the more expensive cities, if I'm not mistaken.”

Debt and Home Renovations

6:25 to 8:29

Discussing current debt and plans for home improvements and college expenses.

“I mean, honestly, if he, I told him if he wanted to go back to school, he's a plumber.”

Desires for Cosmetic Surgery

8:29 to 12:29

Bianca expresses her wishes for cosmetic surgery amidst financial discussions.

“Usually what most people want is to not be in Tucson.”

Navigating Relationships and Finances

12:29 to 14:00

Bianca reflects on past relationships and their impact on her financial decisions.

“So we're trying to get new tits so we can get a third.”

The Concept of 'Locking In'

14:00 to 18:09

A discussion around the concept of financial 'locking in' and its implications.

“So it's like others will be, well, actually Brandon would appreciate them.”

Struggles with Financial Responsibility

18:10 to 21:02

Exploring personal finance management, budgeting, and the individual's struggles with debt.

“Sometimes I lock in and sometimes I forget to.”

Current Financial Practices and Goals

24:17 to 28:00

A conversation about the current budgeting practices and future financial goals.

“And then I know that I need to save minimum of$1 ,000 or$800 for my mortgage on my second paycheck.”
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Understanding Goals and Financial Struggles

28:00 to 29:00

Exploring the reasons behind financial goals and the challenges faced.

“You know what you're doing is already wrong or else you wouldn't have applied to be on the show.”

The Reality of Home Ownership

29:00 to 30:30

Discussing the implications of negative equity and financial stability in home ownership.

“Nothing has ever shown that you have, but your entire argument is that you will.”

Concerns about Future Financial Security

30:30 to 31:50

Examining the risks of job loss and lack of savings in a changing economy.

“So what happens if you get laid off, you can't afford this mortgage so you need to emergency sell it and then what do you do?”

Assessing Financial Literacy and Planning

31:50 to 33:50

Evaluating the guest's financial knowledge and discussing budgeting tools.

“So I was like, okay, maybe there actually is a dream house.”

Debating Financial Responsibilities and Choices

34:18 to 35:30

Challenging the guest's spending choices and the impact on their finances.

“Well, this isn't a big balance, actually.”

Learning from Financial Mistakes

35:30 to 38:50

Discussing the importance of learning from others' financial failures.

“they're not paying for the entire vacation including your part so you would still put of your part on the credit card, you dumb tits.”

Confronting the Need for a Budget

38:50 to 42:00

Emphasizing the need for a solid budget and the consequences of neglecting it.

“This is the limit of how high they will be.”

The Struggles of Budgeting

42:00 to 43:19

Explore the challenges of sticking to a budget and the consequences of inconsistent financial behavior.

“I'm sure you were perfect in the relationship.”

Understanding Monthly Finances

46:39 to 48:25

Discuss the importance of tracking expenses and the impact of credit card debt.

“So if I can figure out where the rest of it is.”

The Necessity of Meal Prep

48:25 to 52:02

Discuss the benefits of meal prepping as a solution to budgeting issues and avoiding eating out.

“No, I don't want it to go on my checking account.”

Navigating Relationships and Dating

52:02 to 56:01

Explore the complexities of dating within friend groups and the consequences of casual relationships.

“And then that means you also have to do it like on Wednesday or Thursday.”

Navigating Relationships and Friendships

56:01 to 56:48

Discussing the complexities of friendships and romantic relationships.

“Not on the front porch, but we were on the front porch.”

Exploring Hookup Culture

56:49 to 57:34

Conversations about casual hookups and personal preferences.

“Your older kids, your mom on like the top 10 podcasts on the internet, there's no way they're not watching this.”

Financial Decisions and Responsibilities

57:35 to 58:56

Discussing the importance of managing finances responsibly.

“No, you meet at a bar first and then you, okay, okay.”

The Burden of Debt

58:57 to 1:00:36

Analyzing the impact of credit card debt and personal loans.

“I don't know if those delay fees are what.”

Unpacking Spending Habits

1:06:22 to 1:10:00

Examining poor financial choices and their consequences.

“That one, some of most of it went on to the loan, right?”

Discussing Financial Responsibility

1:10:00 to 1:10:59

The hosts discuss the challenges of financial responsibility and parenting.

“you know like it's not you can because you have an adult conversation with them as two of them are practically adults 17 year olds about to be and one is two years into adult adulthood, so.”

Struggles with Credit Card Use

1:11:00 to 1:12:25

A dialogue about the misuse of credit cards and the implications of debt.

“You're going to have a thousand hours of interest this year with this card.”

Navigating Teen Responsibilities

1:12:26 to 1:14:48

The hosts debate the importance of work and responsibilities for teenagers.

“You can't spend on the city double cash card anymore, okay?”

The Debate on Kids and Technology

1:14:49 to 1:16:31

A discussion on the appropriateness of technology use among children.

“That doesn't mean hold him back in every way whatsoever.”

Understanding Debt and Financial Planning

1:20:13 to 1:24:01

A conversation about managing debt and the importance of financial planning.

“Like you say that until you actually have a kid in front of you.”

Struggles with Debt and Mortgages

1:24:01 to 1:25:14

Discussion on the challenges of managing mortgage payments and debt

“a mortgage that we cannot afford that we have a negative equity position in the house.”

Budgeting and Monthly Expenses

1:25:15 to 1:29:06

Analyzing monthly expenses and creating a budget amidst financial chaos

“Okay, your Edmunds appraisal for your car that you've paid off is$3 ,194.”

Assessing Financial Health

1:29:07 to 1:31:40

Evaluating the financial health and scores of the guest's situation

“I'm going to say$250, and I'm actually going to bring food down to$650.”
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1:08When you put it out there that you're going to like set a goal and you're intentional with it, you can put it on your board. You're bored? Yes, you're bored. You're bored. I have spending amnesia. What? I don't like to look at my bank account. Is that an option? It could be. It could be. How could it be? You're literally dying. You're struggling. Hammer Elite is the best YouTube membership on the platform, and I just upgraded it. Get access to exclusive shows every single day, Monday through Saturday. And for the rest of the month, I am paying for you to sign up. Sign up for Hammer Elite in the description or pinned comment below and submit proof of purchase at hammerelite.com.

1:45After that, I'll send you a$10 digital gift card that can be spent basically anywhere and in most countries. This is the best membership you'll ever join. That's a promise. Hi, I'm Bianca. I'm 38 and I live in Tucson, Arizona, and this is Financial Audit. You usually don't know much about a guest before they come on the show, but I did hear you like to f*** 17-year-olds. What? No, I don't. What is that? You got impregnated by a 17-year-old. Oh, I mean, to be fair, I was also 17. God, I was like, I thought you meant right now. Correction, you were 18, but not that it matters. I don't really care.

2:24I don't really care. I was like, when did I do that? The last time I did that on the show, someone got very defensive. So I wanted to see what you did. I was like, what was, yeah, thank God. That was like 20 years ago. Back when I was. Actually, yes. Well, yeah. So, okay. Wow. So this kid's out of high school then. Oh, yeah. He has a whole job and everything. You look pretty good for your age. Actually, no, you look very good for your age. Yeah. Okay. Well done. Congratulations. My grandma put me on a skincare routine at like 16. Yeah, that'll do it. And you're Asian or something. So that probably helps.

2:56Mexican. Yeah, one of those. Close enough. Okay. So what do you do for living in Tucson? I'm an operations manager. Which I hear is a horrible place to live, by the way. Yeah. Horrible place. I hear it's like literal dog shit. I wouldn't say horrible twice, but. Horrible, horrible, horrible. Maybe if we send them to the dumbest city in the whole country, it'll bring back the old PETA. No, we, A, it has really pretty sunsets and we have a mountain. A mountain? Well, a mountain range. There's multiple mountains. Well, usually it's rare to have a mountain. I mean, we do have a mountain in the middle of the city.

3:30Okay. What do you do? I'm an operations manager. In the mountain town. Oh, you walk, like hike in the mountain? Yeah. Operations. Okay. Very good. For like what kind of industry? Healthcare. Right. Okay. Great. What do you make? You should be in the height of your career. Around 40 is peak earning, if I'm not mistaken. So. I hope not. But I bring home 5 ,000 a month. Well, if that's the height of our earning, you certainly kind of... I don't want that to be the height of my earnings. Well, if we're just talking like... But like right now, yes. You know, average person, right? Okay. Well, no, actually, no, no.

4:04You're kind of right on track with like the median American at that point because that's$60 ,000 a year net. So not bad. And Tucson is not one of the more expensive cities, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, it can be if you have... You know, it definitely goes through its bubbles and waves as a boomtown for sure. but Tucson, no one wants to live there because everyone would commit if they did. But$5 ,000 there. Okay. How you doing on$5 ,000 in the desert with how many kids? How many 17-year-olds stuck it in you? One, four times. Well, more than four. Good for him. But four took. Yeah. Good for him.

4:36Yeah, we have four kids. Okay. But one is already moved out, so he doesn't live with me. Wait, what are the ages of these children? 19, 17, 13, and 11. Okay. It's honestly rare that I have someone that has kids that are like actual in like adult territory. I know. It's weird for you to be in grass. What do they think about mother coming on financial audit? Because usually I can't ask that. I haven't told anyone. What are they going to think when they see mother on financial audit? Actually, no. I did tell my 17-year-old and he's very excited for me. Because he knows he's going to get cooked and he wants that?

5:09I don't know. He knows I listen to you on the car rides and they get so annoyed. They're like, do we have to listen to this? But I said, I'm going on your phone. What the fuck is wrong with you? You 17-year-old piece of shit. Go stick it in an adult like your dad did. 17-year-old freak. Yeah, when my kid turned 18, he's like, you could be a grandma. And I'm like, oh, my God, I could be a grandma right now. Well, yeah. I mean, they are in those ages. Okay, so what's going on? What's going on? You're certainly, for an operations manager, which sounds like a little bit more where you are, it ranges from 60 ,000 to over 100 ,000 hours a year.

5:41Yeah, see, not yet. Tucson, which averages landing between 70, which is closer to where you are. You're about 75, 70 to 90 ,000 hours a year. So you're in that like, yeah, you're in that middle range. Okay. And top earners usually 100 to 120 ,000 hours a year. So you're in that average for sure. Okay. So again, how you doing? Because this, yeah, it's a lot of kids. Are we taking care of college now? That's a conversation we usually don't get to have on the show. What's going on? Yeah. So I actually, my second son's about to go into college and I want to pay for his college. Well, you're f***ed.

6:15How are you going to do that? I know. Because no offense, you don't get to come on the show unless you're f***ed. That's how it is. I know, but he deserves it. So I'll figure it out. Well, hold on. What is the deserve? I don't know about deserve. He does. He's a good kid. Okay, fine. I'm not a grandma by now. That's a plus. Oh, is the 19-year-old not? He is a good kid too. Is he a piece of shit? No, of course not. No, no, no. Okay. No, no. But he doesn't deserve it? I mean, honestly, if he, I told him if he wanted to go back to school, he's a plumber. Oh, plumbers will make a lot of money. And I don't really see that being replaced by AI.

6:43Yeah. So he's gotten three raises in the year that he's been there. Well, with the 17 year old, is he going to go into community college? Are you going to be enabling like an art degree at a four year institution that he chooses for a sports team? No, no, no. So this is a trade household. Yeah. Real Mexicans. We like that. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Full sombrero DNA. We love it. We support it. But he did get a scholarship for half his school. So I think it will only be just a few thousand for the other half. So why are you here then? What are we talking about? So I want to pay off the debt that I have now because I want new debt.

7:16Like I want to pay for other stuff. I'm hoping. No, I already have a mortgage, but I want to redo my backyard. But that's going to be like$50 ,000. So I need to pay off all this debt. It's too sad. It's dirt. It doesn't matter. It's dirt. I live there. I live there. It's with it. No, it's dirt. How much does dirt cost? 50 ,000? No, no. I want concrete. I want to redo my whole entire backyard. You want concrete. You want your yard to be concrete. I guess that's better than the rest of the dirt and Tucson. I want it stamped to look like slate. Okay, so it looks, yeah, you know. So I have a wood fence right now, and I want to replace the wood fence.

7:50That's unique. I know, right? So I want to replace the wood fence. With what? It's a yard. With a brick. No, a brick yard. What's he doing? With the indoor lights. Like, the lights are on the brick. What are you doing? What does this house even value? A 50 ,000-dollar yard. Listen, it doesn't matter the value of my house. What, are you going to stay there forever? Yes. I want to live there forever. What's the point of moving? I don't like moving. What's the point of a different house? No, no, no, no. I don't need a different house. I can't do that. So anyways, I want it to be like all slate with a fire pit and a gazebo and a she shed.

8:21It doesn't matter. I live there. Like I live there and I'm not going to ever move. So I might as well have what I want because I live there. Usually what most people want is to not be in Tucson. I know, but I can't move. Okay, so$50 ,000 a yard is what I'm, I guess, I'm getting you to after paying off debt, going into debt for what else? You know, I'm 40, so I could almost 40. So, you know, a little, like, boob job. That would be fun. All the boob jobs on this show. What is everyone doing boob jobs? What is that, like$20 ,000 to$20 ,000? Fun? Yeah, it would be fun. How are they now? They're not fun.

8:53Saggy? They're non-existent. They're tiny. You're flat. Yeah. So then I could have some and be like, do you guys want to see my boobs? Who's you guys? You're... Whoever. You just go around saying you guys want to see my boobs? Not to random people. Well, first of all, I think honestly, other than like the weird chronically on freaks, most people would actually be pleasantly happy with that request. Just saying. So feel free to test that out. Number two. So we'll see what happens. Number two. Are you married? No. Okay. Wait. Okay. So the 17-year-old, did you divorce them? Yeah. Okay. That was my first husband.

9:26He has a lot of time on his side. Oh, what is... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no. Okay, so you're trying to get some tits so you can get another one? Oh, wait, first, how many have you had? I have two. I had two. Had two. Okay. Had two. But why'd you break up? It was the 17-year-old father of all these? Yeah. Why'd you break up with the 17-year-old? He fell in love with somebody else. Someone with tits? She had huge tits. Yeah. That happens. That happens. That's true. I like her. Yeah. Or her tits. You know, I like both her and her, too. Okay, very good. I like that. Wait. Yeah. Oh. Wait, whoa, whoa.

10:06No, no, no, no. Okay, no. I had to do the math because I met someone in the green room. Someone very hot, by the way. Someone that, oh, my goodness. But she's your sister-in-law. Meaning, okay, yeah, that's your brother. Okay, this is not a new wife. Her brother. Because. I was married to her brother. But she's my sister because when you get married, then you become. Oh, so. Then she becomes my sister. So now she's my sister. Oh, so your ex is related to her. Yeah. My ex-husband is her brother. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I, yeah. Yeah. Stunning, by the way. That lovely person in there. And, okay, you got with someone else and you, and none of these kids are that one?

10:51My second husband? No. Was he 17? No, he was not 17. He was my age. I'm right here. Hello? Hammer Elite is free right now. But you got to submit proof of purchase at hammerelete.com so you can get your$10 digital gift card that covers it. I know. That's a shame. You don't like that usually. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was very short. Why? What happened? It was just short. Shouldn't have done it. And then we did it. Uh, I don't know. Why'd you end it? He wasn't great with money. He wasn't like. Girl. I know. Are you stupid? What are you talking about? Okay. Well, he didn't. Not great with money.

11:24What are you on about? That is you. I make enough money to not be great with money. 10 to 20 ,000 hours of tits in a 50 ,000 hour yard in Tucson. Yeah, but I can afford it. I'm not making$13 an hour. It's not about, no, no, no. It's never about income. It's about your entire financial situation. I'll fix it. Okay. How much debt do you have? How much debt do you have? Oh, including the house? That is debt. You. Um, I forgot what I bought my house for. Hold on. How much debt do you have? Not including your debt. Please hold. I'll do it all together. Not including your house. How much debt do you have?

11:54Okay. Okay. I'm going to say 20 ,000. Okay. Yep. Yep, you're broken,$37 ,000. Oh, okay. So if you use better finances and that's the reason you broke off your f***ing, what are you talking about? No, no, no, no, no, that's not really. That's not including a mortgage that you want to add an additional$50 ,000 for a yard, for dirt, for shit. It's concrete. So you can look at the mountain. So I don't have to clean my yard. Your entire thing's going to be concrete? Yeah. I don't like yard work. It's dirt! Yeah, but dirt grows weeds and then you have to clean it. I have a giant mushroom like the size of my head.

12:26And the second husband before you get your third. If you have doubts, don't get married. If you're trying to call out. Did you get married? I did. Okay. And how long did that last? Like a year. Yeah. And why'd you end it? It just wasn't working. Okay. And how long ago was that? Like two years ago, I think. Okay. Yeah, I'm sure. So we're trying to get new tits so we can get a third. But to be fair, I have wanted tits since I was born. Like since I was like a teenager. Oh, teenager. Okay. That makes more sense. Since born's a bit odd. Since I was like a teenager, I'd want them. Okay. Why haven't you?

13:01You've prioritized, obviously, other things, including a JCPenney card. I know. So it's like you could have done this. I could have. No, you've been bullshitting your entire way to here. You could be in fake tit territory. Why aren't you? You could have them right now. Those things could be f***ing hanging on the desk, landing flat. We've had them. We've had people come on and just flop them out. That could have been you. What have you been doing? Going on vacation. So that's more important than tits? Yeah. Okay. Sure, if it is. But listen, you've been going into debt for it. It's more important than yard.

13:31It's more important than paying for your kids' school. How are you paying for college? How are you paying for college for the 17-year-old? How are you paying for college for the 13-year-old in a few years? How are you paying for college for the 11-year-old in a half a decade or so? A little more than that. But even still, how are you doing all that if you have$37 ,000 in bad debt outside of your mortgage,$50 ,000 of future debt for dirt, and then$20 ,000 of future debt for tits, which by the way, but listen, if I pay off, they don't even feel good anyway. So it's like others will be, well, actually Brandon would appreciate them.

14:03Some people like fake. I don't understand it. I I'll never understand it. They just, it's not right. It doesn't work. I'll figure it out. It just happens. Oh, that's yeah. It will happen. That's our entire argument. Yeah. It will. Listen, no, I'll lock in and I'll pay off. Lock in. Why haven't you locked in? You're almost 40. Lock the in. What's wrong with you? Lock in. What are you talking about? You're going to die. And double your lifetime. What are you talking about? Sometimes you just have to go on vacation. No. Like mental health vacation. It's a whole thing. Mental health vacation doesn't have to mean actually going wherever.

14:34Mental health vacation could be literally just going on a walk around the block. No, no, no, no, no, no. If it's not on a flight, it's not a vacation. What? Road trips or not vacations? No, I cannot do a road trip. Okay. Well, you cannot, but people do road trips. People do road trips. No. For what? No. To go places. No. Okay. Yeah, sure. Fly there. But also, this is not true. vacation, like you're going to a vacation destination. That's not the definition of a vacation necessarily. I don't know. I feel like. How frequently are we doing these? I feel like I could probably once a quarter have a nice vacation.

15:10Oh my gosh. No, you're in horrible debt. And you want to do$50 ,000 plus 20. Okay, but if I pay off my debt, then I'll be able to afford it. The math will math. Yeah, but how can you do that if you're going to do a 50 ,000 hour yard and then 20 for tits? which is more debt than you have now outside of your mortgage. Like you'd be more than doubling your debt. Yeah, but see, this is manageable debt right now. So then once it's paid off. What's manageable? Then why are you even the f*** here? If it's manageable and you're able to just lock in as you say, if it's manageable and you're able to just lock in as you say, why is the debt even here?

15:44You'd pay it off if it's manageable and you can just lock in. The f*** are you talking about manageable? Maybe it's not quite manageable. What are you talking about this lock in? What lock in? There's no lock in. And you've never heard of locking in. It will. It'll happen. What have you ever locked in in your life? Where's your lock in? The only locked in you did is when you saw a 17-year-old across the room. You're like, I need that. He was walking on the side of the road. Thank you very much. That's a good place to pick up a minor. I was one, too. It's not like it was wild. You were 18. It happens.

16:10But either way, I really don't care about that. I'm obviously just joking about that. Twitter, TikTok might, but don't care about them. They're not real people. I'll lock in. I saw your face of concern when I said that. Don't worry. They're literally not real people. None of us take them seriously. Don't worry about it. But obviously I'm going to joke about it. Okay. But either way, what's your lock-in? I don't see lock-in. It will happen. I, it will happen. No, that's not an argument. I mean. Where's your lock-in? Okay, fine. We know how much came in. About five. Oh, my God. How much went out?

16:44Lock-in queen. I, okay, here. I have spending amnesia. What? Spending amnesia. You know, you just like swipe the card. No. Tap to pay. No. Don't know. Don't just. No, that sounds like personal responsibility, your choice, being a dumbass. Like$7 ,000. I'm going to guess. Well, no, maybe less. I'm going to say$6. I'm going to hope for$5. You should have stuck with the original one because it's much closer to that. $6 ,715.32. Yeah, the payroll that came in was$4 ,907.88. What? Okay. Listen. Lock in. Again, what the f*** are you talking about? lock-in. There's no lock-in. I've never seen lock-in.

17:25No, I did. I did lock-in. Once upon a time what? Once upon a time what? You have four kids. Look where you've ended up. Nothing's working. What are you talking about? And you're going to pay for their college. Good the fuck. I did. I did lock-in one time. When? A few years ago. Does it even matter? Dude, if you were doing perfect now and you're a complete degenerate piece of shit 10 years ago, I wouldn't have cared about that. I wouldn't have cared about that. I don't give a fuck if you're doing good 10 years ago if you're doing a piece of shit now. I don't give a shit. Okay, but tell me about your lock-in.

17:53Sure. Lock in. I lived with my dad and I paid off a lot of my debt. You lived in with your dad though, but now you're taking care of your kids. Okay. When was this? I lived with him like two years ago and then I bought my house. But your lock in was two years ago? I mean, locked in enough to buy a house. You've accomplished this free in two years? I thought maybe this was like a decade of. No, no, no, no. I mean, it fluctuates. It's up and down. Sometimes I lock in and sometimes I forget to. You saved 10 ,000 hours of being told. Yeah. And then I bought a house. You got from 10 ,000 to negative 37.

18:22I bought a house. I had to buy things for it. I had nothing. No. That is not had to. I don't think you know what had to is. You do not have to. No, it was a had to. What? It was a had to. Okay, what's your had to? It's like an HVAC system, sure, but wouldn't that be taken? You know, like furniture. Oh, my. You know what had to is? A table and chair. Tables and chairs. Did not have to in the moment. If it's going to put you underwater and put you at risk of foreclosure, put you at risk of not being able to replace a roof, put you at risk of not being able to fix a window if it breaks, That is not a had to.

18:53You cannot buy a house and tell you at least, I would, at least 5%, I'd recommend minimum 10, but at least five, I wouldn't get a house. And then also a full six-month emergency fund before doing it because people get f***ed when they get into a house that they can't afford. Like, what are you doing? Had to, what the f*** are you talking about? I had to. So that's your, that's your lock-in? Yeah. The best you've ever done by 40 is$10 ,000 saved up on the side. Life happens. That's your argument? Yeah, yeah. You know what? No, that's not a good argument. Life happens. What are you talking about?

19:26It does. The most you've ever accomplished is$10 ,000 by 40, and it's gone. You're negative 37. When you put it that way. No, that's the real way. What other way is there to put it?

19:41I don't know. So what are you talking about? You can't tell me you locked in then. You've barely accomplished anything ever, and certainly nothing to show for it. I'm in a house show. That's good. If you've only bought it recently. I paid off my car. That's an accomplishment. Oh, like five years ago. Okay. Great. Yeah. So the loan ended up being done. Yeah. Great. Yeah. That happens. That happens. Hey, sometimes it doesn't happen. Yeah, but you didn't do anything extra special with that. You just keep making your minimum payments until it's done. That's what happens. Same thing will happen to a credit card if you don't purchase on it in decades.

20:18I mean. That's fair. Also, it was a 10 ,000-hour car. It's not like it wasn't crazy. It wasn't like a— That's like what I would recommend anyway. So it's— Well, I don't know. You don't know what— What do you not know? I think I did. I think I'm doing okay. Why? You're one emergency happening to this house away from not being able to take care of your kids. It sounds like you have a good dad. But, I mean, you're ancient. So he's going to be— He's extra ancient. It's not going to be around forever. I'll figure, like, listen, the New Year's coming and then. Oh, don't do that bullshit. People fall off their New Year's resolutions endlessly.

20:58That's not a good argument. You should be taking actions today, even though it's a few days before New Year's. Yeah. That's what I would say. But, okay. So what is your current budgeting? What do things look like now? How do you manage your finances now? Um, so I get paid my first paycheck and I pay all of my, the bills, right? Like electric minimum payments on the credit cards. And then, or. You pay your minimums out of the gate. Yeah. Manually? They're not automatically taken. So you get paid and you immediately take care of your manuals. Right. Like some of the credit cards that I forget about are set up on auto.

21:35Why are you forgetting about it? What are you talking about? Forget about it. You know, I have like$60 on this card. I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. And so that one is. Okay. So you do not sit down and actually manage your finances or else you would not forget about it. I forget that I use the card. But if you sat down and managed your finances, you'd see that you used the card. I'm confused. Okay, continue. Let's talk about student loans. I know it's something we all avoid talking about, but if your private student loans are crushing you, Y-Refi might be exactly what you need. They don't rely on your credit score alone.

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24:40Oh, your entire second paycheck and a little bit of your first paycheck? Your house poor. Well, just in case. Just in case of what? I don't know. Things happen. No, you said for your payment, you need your second check plus a little from your first. Yeah, because I like there to always be money in my bank account. How much do you leave in your bank account? Like the$1 ,000. I always want there to be that much. And is there always$1 ,000? Not always. So what happens? Why not? I don't know. They just like tap the card and I'm like, oh, shit. So who taps the card? I do. When you say they, shut the fuck up.

25:13It's you. Okay, okay. I tap my card. But after I pay my mortgage, then it's kind of like trying to make it through until I get paid again. But no, you always have$1 ,000 in your account. No, not always. Exactly. So why is it always making it through? Even if it was$900 instead of$1 ,000, that shouldn't be a big struggle to the next few days. Well, because sometimes I, well, okay, so I don't like to look at my bank account. Is that an option? It could be. How could it be? You're literally dying. You're struggling. You just told me you struggled to make it to the next paycheck after your mortgage payment.

25:55How can you possibly not look at your checking account? How is that even an option? Because if you don't look, it didn't happen. I don't know. I don't know. It's just like it's annoying to look at. Like, you know, like when you look and you're like, who spent all this money? And then I'm like, me, me, me. I spent all the money. It's more annoying to look at an account than not have money when we're trying to purchase something. Yeah. It's more annoying to look at her account than not be able to pay for her kids' school. No. Uh-huh. Selfish. Selfish. Okay, okay. Selfish. Yeah. But, I mean, it is kind of annoying to look in there.

26:35No shit. No one likes to actually face their irresponsibility. But if you never do, it'll never be fixed. Never. Not once. And that's why I'm here.

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28:04That's how this works. And yet you're f***ing everyone whatsoever spending thousands more than you make on a monthly basis. So what is actually going to change after this? This is not a magical thing. It will change. But why? Because I have a goal. Have you never had a goal? Well, this time I have a real goal. What's your real goal? Why was it fake last time? Your real goal is literally fake tits in a yard. Yeah, that's what I want to do. What was your goal last time? You got a house, you saved up 10, then you like it's gone. That was my first goal. Yeah, but you did it in a horrible way, by the way.

28:30But it happened. It happened and you might be f***ing for it. It sounds like you are because you struggle between your mortgage payment and next paycheck. Yeah, but once I pay off my debt, then I won't have that struggle. How do you pay off your debt if you spend 2 ,000 hours more than you make on a monthly basis and you struggle to make it to the next paycheck? When you put it out there that you're going to like set a goal and you're intentional with it, you can put it on your board, you know. Your board? Yes, your board. Your board. Why don't you actually just put in some f***ing work, you tit?

28:57I will. You will. Okay, so your entire argument is that you will. Yes. Nothing has ever shown that you have, but your entire argument is that you will. That's it. Yeah. No indication that that is actually true, but you will. Yeah. You see why I can't necessarily just believe that and let go of that? It'll happen. Because that's bullshit. It'll happen. Great. Well, guess what? Your house has gone down 10 ,000 hours in value since you purchased it. Why? because the housing market goes up and down depending. Okay. Especially in a boom state like Arizona. You have a negative equity position. Lord, I didn't know that.

29:39Okay. What percentage did you put down?

29:46You don't even know what is wrong with you. I'll think of it. I don't know. Like five. Well, sounds like you didn't think of it. Are you just guessing? Yeah. Did you FHA it?

30:01yes what yes do you not know what you did no i know i know i know what i did so you literally have no equity position in this house whatsoever but it doesn't matter because i'm yes it does because if you enter a situation where sometimes there's a reason that you have to move that's just something that happens that that's rare that's probably not gonna happen but it might happen or two you get financially you have nothing in savings. You're f***ed on debt. You get laid off. And we just had a good quarterly annualized GDP report. But who even knows? The job market's not great. What happens if you get laid off?

30:37What degree do you have? I'm screwed if I get laid off. Exactly. What degree do you have? I actually didn't finish my degree. Oh, okay. What did you go to school for? Business management. Yeah, okay. And accounting. Uh-huh. Great. Yeah. It's just like one time. I know. So what happens if you get laid off, you can't afford this mortgage so you need to emergency sell it and then what do you do? You have to write a check to close. Write a check just to close your own house because you have a negative equity position. Yeah, that would really suck. Yes, this is a position you've put yourself in. That's why I'm not letting you just the I'll figure it out or it'll work because that is not an answer.

31:14You are in a position where not just you but three of your kids are in a beyond risky position. There's not a dual income situation here. Yeah. That's what makes me nervous. No, I don't want that. I don't want someone to move in with me. Really? You're going to stay single forever? I wouldn't stay single, but they don't have to live with me. You're never going to live with a guy. There's not room in my closet for a guy and his stuff. There's not room in my house for one. And this is your forever home. Alright. I don't want to make room for someone. You know, I thought you because you're old, I thought maybe you've own this house forever for a long time.

31:51So I was like, okay, maybe there actually is a dream house. You have been in for a year. You don't know this is your dream house. Yeah, I do. It's really cute. I looked at it. I knew it was a one. Also, I looked at it right now. It's fine. Yeah, it's cute. It's really like a cute little house. It's fine. It's tile throughout. It's concrete floors. Even better. Yeah, 10 years ago. What? It's cute. I really like it. Concrete is not in, lady. It's in for me. It's easy to clean. And my electric bill is very cheap. Well, yeah, it's a tiny ass house. And it's literally, there's one little micro bush in the yard.

32:25The rest of it is just dirt in a single story. It is brick. Yeah, it's crazy. But if I redo the backyard, it looks so cute. And the entire backyard is, shocker, dirt. Yeah, that's why it needs to be redone. With a patch of turf, small patch. It's dirt, dirt, dirt. This is, what a miserable, miserable place. Yeah, I hate it. I don't even look back there. I don't even look back there. That's why it needs to be redone. It's so depressing. That park is all concrete. Look, there's a dog tied to our other dog. Okay, the house is a very normal house, so I don't see how Dreamhouse is attached to this.

32:56Because it's mine. That's why. Because it's mine. Yeah, but your next house would be yours too. And people always move on. I don't think... Okay. Okay. Very good. I don't think so. So, to be clear, you have a negative equity position in this house and you want to invest$50 ,000 into the backyard. Basically, yeah. Maybe it doesn't have to be... Maybe it could be less. You're broken. You're broken. What do you think your financial score is? Zero to 10, zero being the worst, 10 being the best. I'll be generous and say a two. Why be generous? I don't know. Because why not? I'm not saying be negative or be generous.

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34:13and then it is gone forever. All right. It is time to jump into these finances. Oh, God. Okay. Well, this isn't a big balance, actually. So I don't know what. Okay. So Southwest, 75 bucks. Uh-huh. So here's what happens. I paid off that card. What? Yeah, 75. That's not hard to pay off. And then what? What lady? It's like$3 ,500 right now Oh that's real locked in of you You dumb It's not my fault Well come on Nothing is ever your fault And every time I have a guest on this show It is never your fault Why is it not your fault? Maybe it isn't For the first time ever in this show's history Okay so my sister and her husband Really wanted to The hot one?

35:02No my other one I know She really They wanted to go on vacation um sounds like an emergency yeah so they invited me and another friend to go sounds like an emergency and they they don't have a credit card with enough like they just didn't have credit cards at all we will we will emergency i'm freaking out so they asked if i can put it on my card oh you fucking dumb ass and they would pay me back you dumb ass first of all yeah they're not paying for the entire vacation including your part so you would still put of your part on the credit card, you dumb tits. So this is not, first of all, it is your fault because one, you agreed to it.

35:42Two, you were going there. So a part of your stuff would be on this card regardless. So f*** you. What do you mean locked in? Shut the f*** up, not your fault. This is your fault. Shut up. It's California. It'll be okay. Actually, I don't really understand why we're going to some conference. You haven't even gone yet. Yeah. Oh, die. Yeah, we're going in September. What is wrong with you? It's California. Thank you for fueling the American economy, but what is wrong with you? If it wasn't for dumbasses like you, Who knows who it would be? No, no, no. They'll pay me back and everything will be fine.

36:10Hopefully. I hope. How much do they owe of the$35? Well, my part was like$800. So the leftover. Okay. So it is your fault. You dumb kid because you still have$800 from zero on here. Pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Okay. Okay. Hold on. What's wrong with you? I just don't get it. Literally$75. I was so. It'll be fine. It's not a valid argument. I don't know how you can just keep saying that. Oh, and I might have accidentally put some stuff from Christmas on there, too. Uh-huh. And that's why I had you pull up the card, you dumb piece of... Just a little. Shut. It's okay. Quiet. PlayStation.

36:52Movie theater. Let me start a screen recording. So I think you got like a water this morning. You got some bullshit. Oh, that's the hotel. Yeah? Yeah. You know where they like hold your incidental. Okay. Yeah, yeah. PlayStation. It's Christmas. I think gas. Die. Movie theater. Yeah, expensive for that many people. Food City. Rose Garden. Dillard's. Oh, yeah. What are we doing? Expedia probably to come here. Maybe. I don't know. Yes. Yeah. Unless you get reimbursed for that part. Southwest Airlines. Expedia bullshit. Dumbassery bullshit. Bullshit. American, American, American, American, American, American, American.

37:35That's the trip. Buzz Cafe Beauty Lounge,$235. What is wrong with you? You, not your fault. You, not your fault. Yeah, laugh about it. Cope, laugh away. It's the only way you're going to make it through this. Yeah. Good the fuck. Good the fuck. What is wrong with you? $3 ,503.95. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? What's your normal minimum repayment? I don't know, like$75. I don't even trust you, but$75. I'm sure it's at like a 30 % interest rate of stupidity and death and dumbassery. Now, why the f*** could your sister not pay for it, huh? Huh? Because that scares me because how are they going to pay you back if they can't pay for it themselves?

38:24It's because they had like filed for bankruptcy, so they didn't have any of their... What? They didn't have any of their card? They will. They will. They will. You just saw your sister file for bankruptcy, yet you're doing all of this? Oh, why can we not learn from other people? Instead of having to, you have to learn it through your own f***ery. What's wrong with you? If you don't get punished, if you don't go through it yourself, you can't learn from it? You just saw what your sister went through with bankruptcy, and yet you're doing this yourself? Hers was way worse than mine. Poor now, you f***er.

38:56No, this is it. This is the limit of how high they will be. No, because listen, when you said in your statements and what I thought was$75, you've racked it up to$35. So shut up. This is the worst. That is not how this works. No, like this is the worst. No, it is not. Yeah. That is not how this works. It is literally got worse since you applied. It'll be fine. Since you said in your documents. Since well after your first or second call through the application process. Listen, the tickets went on sale and you had to have the money. Went on sale. The tickets went on sale. You had to have the money there to buy them.

39:28Doesn't matter. Listen to your logic. Listen to your excuses. Listen to your coping. That is why this will not be the worst because there will always be something to make excuses and cope and dumb assery about. Yeah. Uh-huh. What? What? I just. What do you want? What? Honestly, a budget, right? But can we add in like vacation? Die. No. You. You have kids. You selfish bitch. What is wrong with you? Seriously, what is wrong with you? That is so selfish and disgusting. of you. You have children. You've promised to pay for their college. I don't know how that's going to happen. You're going to take out student parent plus loans.

40:04Yeah. That's more debt. We're adding more debt to the pile. No, no. It'll even out because I'll pay off this one. The other one. You just like switched around. No, because your debt's worse than I even had. Okay, so now it's, what is it? Like closer to but it's like 42 now and you're about to go again 50 for the f***er. No, no, I won't. 20 for the parent plus. I won't do that. 20 for the titties. I won't do any of that until this is paid off. No, you don't understand what I'm saying. You actual, I'm sorry, dumb. Listen, listen. 20 for student, 20 for tits, 50 for house. Oh, the math altogether is more than this.

40:45You got there. You figured it out, accounting. Well, you didn't get the degree, I guess. But neither did I, so. Okay, you know what? Fine, you've convinced me. Maybe I'll do like 30 on the backyard. You're literally Mexican do-it-yourself. I can't do it myself. Really? It runs through your DNA. I can't do it myself. I'm a pussy. I have no manual labor skills. I don't like manual. I'm tired. I don't even want to do my yard. It takes like two hours every month. I got to work on my yard. But you were born for this. I was not born for this. I'm being racist right now. Let me be racist. Yeah, I was not born for that.

41:27Or I could find. someone who could do it for me. Yeah, another Mexican. I'm sure there's a lot in Tucson. Huh? Someone like who will do it at a very low price because I'm cute.

41:40You haven't gotten them yet. They're not there. There's nothing for you to show yet. You can't like... Right? You know what? My personality gets me kind of far sometimes depending where we are. Yeah, two ex-husbands. Listen, I'm a great wife. Bad picker of husbands. Never your fault, huh? No, I said I picked them bad. I picked bad ones. But you're a great wife. I'm sure you were perfect in the relationship. I'm sure some people could argue their points, but.

42:10Too late feces here so far. Oh, yeah. See, sometimes I forget. What is wrong with you? So sometimes I'm really good at my budget. I put it on my phone when the due dates are due. It doesn't matter if it's sometimes. I'll just interrupt you. I'll just interrupt you. And then sometimes I forget. A budget doesn't matter if it's only sometimes. It just doesn't. You know, when it happens, it's great. But it doesn't matter because you f*** yourself in the next month, in the previous month. Yeah, it's just sometimes I do really great and then sometimes it falls off the wagon. Just because you get no dick doesn't mean you need to f*** yourself to feel something.

42:48But that's what you're doing every other month at a minimum. A budget is not working if you only sometimes follow it. Okay, okay. But from now on, I'll... That's not an argument. I can't listen to that. I can't listen to that. Just stop saying that because that is a pointless thing to stop because you know what that is? That is a brushing criticism to the side. That's all that is. That is an answer because you don't want to push back anymore, but it's not an answer that anyone can listen to, including yourself. I will believe it if and when you do it and I can see it. Until then, you cannot just say, I'll do it because that is not anything.

43:25That is not anything. But some of them I have paid off. What? Some things I have paid off. This went from$75 to$3 ,503. It's, yeah. Shut the f*** up. Okay, okay. You're already talking about going into over 100 ,000 hours of debt. But I won't do it. I won't do it until it's paid off. No, I'm the unadditional debt, you actual moron. Okay. Yeah, go your way through that. It's the only way you're going to survive. Okay, all right. What the f*** is wrong with you? I didn't say it was in addition to this, which, by the way, you're never going to pay this off based on your behavior,$2 ,000 more on a monthly basis spent.

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45:54So now you need to do that with your energy drink as well. Make Gamer Subs at home for just 40 cents a serving. And honestly, it literally tastes better. And we proved this accidentally via a blind taste test in our Hammer Elite show, Fat and Fatter. The number one ranked energy drink is Gamer Subs. literally the cherry flavor is insane listen you can also get free samples to see if you like it or 10 off your order at gamersubs.gg or click that link in the description below type in code caleb but see when i do my budget right i know there is extra money there sometimes but where is it what yeah you know like okay i bring in 5 000 my mortgage is two my bills are a thousand so then the rest of it.

46:41I don't know. So if I can figure out where the rest of it is. That's what doing a budget is for. You should be able to see it, you moron. All right, please go through Master Your Money. Listen. Okay. Listen, tens of thousands of people have taken our classes. Just do it. You guys can sign up for Master Your Money. Join the community. It's incredible. Check that out, CalebHammer.com. But also, just like, what are you doing? You actually have to take it. I can't just hold your hand through it. I can't force you to do it. You have to do that on your own. And I can't listen to someone who just says, I'll do it.

47:13Show it, prove it, come back. Okay, okay. Yeah, late fees. Like crazy. Now that 35 ,000, 3500s that are 27 % interest rate of death. Oh, my. Sorry. Do you smoke? No. Good. Thank you. Because every single person. Do you vape? No. Usually this bad behavior translates. Yeah, see? All natural. All natural bad behavior.

47:45City Strava, what's going on? Strata. Yeah, that's big. Wow. What a detailed description. I don't know. I just use that one when I'm like, oh, I, you know, need to spend money, but I don't want. Need? You know, some need is whatever. Well, no, actually, if you learn the difference between needs and wants, maybe that would actually be beneficial to you and you wouldn't be f***ed in every way whatsoever. So the card needs to be swiped, but I don't want it to come out of my bank account, so it goes there. And how is that penny fitting you? You know, that also means it's this money you don't have.

48:22If you can't afford to put it on your checking account, it means you can't afford to put it on a credit card. No, I don't want it to go on my checking account. I mean, you told me that after your mortgage payment, you struggled to see if you can even have enough money to make it to the next paycheck. So it's not just you don't want it in your checking account. You can't. But regardless, yeah, no shit because it's$416.83 spent last month after only making the minimum payment. Well,$125.43 of interest accrued. So this went up by$300. Essentially, you f***. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?

48:53Why are you spending so much on a card that you cannot pay off that is accruing so much in interest? You f***. Why? It has to. Things have to get paid. Have to. Have to. Have to. Strongly. Going to California, have to. It's already done. No shit, but you're saying have to. Okay. Also, you'll spend more money when you're there, so I'd cancel it anyway. But 16 years, 16 years to pay this off if you do not purchase, which you're incapable of, and if you only make your minimum payments, which so far, at least that's what you did. But we already know from the last credit card, you missed two this year.

49:29Let's see from this card. From this card. Okay. You didn't miss any this year, but you've had almost a thousand hours in interest. By year's end, it'll be 1 ,000 hours in interest this year. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. So that's the consequences of, oh, we can't put it on our checking account right now. 1 ,000 hours gone, ripped from you, stolen, gone. Done. Yeah. They need to lower the interest rates. Huh? They should lower the interest rates. They have with the Fed. I know. Following the Fed. It was likely closer to 30. Now it's closer to 27. But even still, you're not going to get a good rate on this card.

50:05I know. And once upon a time, that has zero interest. Salad and go. Oh, yeah. Got to eat dinner. You're a mother. Yeah, cook. No, I cook when they're there, and then I forget to cook when I don't have them. So you'll notice. I just don't want to. How do you forget everything? You forget your budget. You forget your bills. You forget your cards. You forget to cook. What are you capable of? I don't forget to cook. I just really don't want to. Okay, want. There you go. You don't want to. This is a want. Not a need. I don't want to hear it. Okay? Creations Mall. Going in and getting some bullshit.

50:40Roadhouse Roadies. Roadhouse Roadies. Roadhouse Roadies. Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A. Those are our needs? Dinner. Yes, wants. Okay. You know, it doesn't seem like that much at the time. Like they're like, you know,$10,$12, and then boom. Yes, that is what happens. Yeah. Why can't you cook for yourself? I can. I just don't want to. I'm tired. Tired? Meal prep. That's what meal prepping is for. You cook a couple times a week and you warm shit up. Welcome to meal prepping. Use our cookbook. Use the meal plan in the budget class. Well, that's, it's so, it's, is it the most pleasant? Is it always the best?

51:23No, but you're sacrificing for this better life that you're trying to get to. That's the whole point. That's why we do it temporarily. And if you know that you do not like to cook when the kids are not there, then there you go. You found your solution, meal prepping. Yeah, but sometimes I, I don't know, you like forget to meal prep. You know, I try to. You forget again? What is wrong with you and forgetting? Everything is forgetting. Are you capable of anything? Yes. What is wrong with you? Yes, yes. Well, you don't forget when your kids are there. Right. So you shouldn't be, you should be able to replicate that when they're not there.

51:59What? I don't know. I just don't. I. Why? Why what? I don't know. I don't want to. I don't want to meal prep on Sunday. I just want to do nothing. And then that means you also have to do it like on Wednesday or Thursday. Listen, I'm not saying you can't go out to eat at all. But the fact is you're spending all this money that you do not have while you have bad debt, while spending$2 ,000 more than you make on a monthly basis, while not having enough money to make it from your mortgage payment to your next whatever by paycheck. Like, it's just, eating out doesn't fit in there. Also, you're trying to get fake tits to improve your looks, yet you go and you get fast food.

52:37Salad and Go is healthy for you, and so is Chick-fil-A, because I get this out. Sure, but you're already dangling. Like, if you want to get fake tits to, like, bring in the dick, you know? Lose this. I got to do it, too. That's why I can say it. We can touch danglies if you want. That could be genetic, too, by the way. Okay, yeah, but you can also, like, probably cheaper than fake tits. But either way, it doesn't matter. I'm not like ripping on you for it. But if all our money is going to attract penis. It's not for that. What? You just said you want to go around and be like, hey, want to see my tits to everyone?

53:09That's what you said. I mean. That's what you said. Okay. But I like them too. Well, yeah. I'd hope it's also for you and not just other people. That'd be really sad if it was just for you. Yeah. I want them. Sure. But you seem to want Chick-fil-A and Salad to go and Roadhouse Roadies more. Yeah. That was just a movie. Huh? I think that was just a movie. Yeah. Three times? Oh, maybe that was drinks. Okay, okay. It's a bar, dude. Yeah, it's a bar. It's a bar, you tit. What is wrong with you? It's a bar. So you're trying to get laid. You're going out there drinking it up? No. I mean, yes, I like to drink, but I don't.

53:40Not at people at roadies. Well, how do you get them then? I don't. You're not on the prowl? No. Dude, get on the prowl before, you know, like, you're already in the desert. I mean, you said it's Tucson. I don't know. No, but you're already in the desert. You're going to be drier. I might not be technically single, you know. Does it impact you? But I just don't want, I just don't. The dating scene in Tucson is not it. So I'm thinking maybe outside of Tucson, you know. But that's later. That's later. That's next chapter. Pause. Hammer Elite is free right now. But you got to submit proof of purchase at hammerelite.com so you can get your$10 digital gift card that covers it.

54:23Next chapter? When's next chapter? It sounds like your 10 chapters. Can I take care of this one? Yeah, but your next chapter is going into 100 ,000 hours of death for your next chapter. So what are you talking about? Well, maybe I won't. I hope you won't. Yeah, maybe I won't. I would be walking away learning something, but we'll see. Oh, well, you hooked up with someone in Vegas, I'm being told. Yeah, that was fun. Well, there you go. C 'est la vie. Huh? It happened. C 'est la vie? Yeah, it just, you know, it was what it was. I actually wasn't. Was it a stripper? No. No, it was right before we went to Vegas.

54:50That'd be fun. No, I don't think that would be fun, actually. How'd you find this guy? He was a friend of a friend. Oh, that gets messy. See, that's why randos are better. It got a little messy, but that's okay. Why? You know, like when you're in the friend group, then you don't realize like someone likes him and then, you know, you got feelings hurt. And he made a move on you? You made a move on him? No, he made a move on me. But guys do. Yeah, guys want to. Are you surprised? No, I don't know. I don't know. It just happened. Like I literally told myself like he's not coming inside. And then he came inside.

55:25And I was like, well, fuck it. What? Bro, what are you talking about, man? Wait, whoa, wait, what? Whoa, whoa, repeat that? I was reading something. He said, please, you said, please do not come inside of me? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, when he, because I needed a ride home. Uh-huh. Right? And on the drive home, I'm like, he, I was telling myself, he's not coming inside. Right? He's not. He's not going to, inside my house. Inside my house. Oh. Inside my house. Hold on. Okay. Like, we are not hooking up. I'm not going to hook up with someone I just met today. Okay. Right? That's not going to happen.

55:58And then we're on the front porch and it happened. Not on the front porch, but we were on the front porch. Girl, you got to use your words, dude. In a more intentional way. And I was like, you know what? It really has been a minute. Like, why not YOLO? There is nothing wrong with having sex. Yeah, I know. But messy and friends. I don't know. I didn't know until the next day. So I... What? I didn't know that my other friends... That you were having sex until the next day? Well, I didn't know that my other friends liked him until the next day. Oh, I didn't even know that. What the f***? You just shouldn't be having sex with friends.

56:28I mean, this is a good general rule to follow, by the way. Now we're not friends, and it's okay. Well, because of this, probably. Yeah, probably. Was he wrapped? Yes. Yes, I'm pretty, yes, yes. We didn't have. Hold on, what? Yes. You're pretty sure? Yes. Hold on. You were walking it back for a second. No, no, no. Yes. Okay. Last 10 minutes of this conversation was for you, kiddos out there watching your mom here. They're not watching. No way they're not going to watch this. Your older kids, your mom on like the top 10 podcasts on the internet, there's no way they're not watching this. We'll see what happens.

57:06Millions of people are learning that you don't even know if your friend wore a condom. Yes, for sure, yes. Which I love, by the way. I love that. For sure, yes. What a show. And see, maybe that's why it doesn't happen very often. Why? I don't know. Maybe wear a condom. Take some dick, dude. Yes. Listen, maybe if you were more focused on taking dick, you wouldn't be going out and blowing all your money on bullshit. The hard part, though, is like, I can't just do random hookups. Like, I don't know you. Yes, you can. You can't let a stranger into my house. And I am not going to a stranger's house.

57:36So what do you do? That's it. No, you meet at a bar first and then you, okay, okay. But like you just met them. You're going to let some random person in your house. I've had my fun. Let's move on. American furniture. Great. Okay. So I thought the 10 ,000 went to a furniture, but we're getting furniture cards. So it was more than that, huh? I had nothing. I had no furniture, no nothing. And so I needed furniture. How did you not have furniture in your other place that you came from? Because. You're with your dad, but you probably still had some. No. How long were you with your dad? Since forever?

58:07Yeah. So when I, okay. So I, when I was still married, we had my apartment and then we moved into right before we separated, like a few weeks before we separated, we moved into his brother's house that was already furnished. So I didn't take any of my stuff, like any of my furniture. I gave it all away. And then when I left, I just took close. Well, this is interest free for now with a$73.68 minimum fee payment. I think it's interest free. We'll see. You make your minimum fee payments only. It takes five years the way you're going if you don't purchase, by the way. I actually need to pay that off like ASAP.

58:44Yeah, I was having a feeling, but we'll probably get to that in the next page. Balance$1 ,966.06. Yeah. Okay, please don't be deferred. Let's see. Lots of fees this year so far, by the way. Why? $111 of fees. I don't know if those delay fees are what. Oh, yeah, they might be. Oh, hundreds of dollars. Hundreds of dollars in deferred interest. Oh. Yeah, it's a plot. In like a couple of months. Yeah. Oh, you're done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I might have to. Mm-hmm. Why did you do this? Dude, you have to make... It's because I had another card that had deferred interest and needed to get paid off first.

59:22So I put all my payments on there. You have to pay$1 ,000 a month to pay this off in time. You spend$2 ,000 more than you make. Good the fuck. But if I don't spend the money more than I make, the money will be... Sure, if you don't do this hypothetical thing that you've been incapable of, then it works. Shut the f*** up. That's not how this works. Like, sure, I hope you implement correct behavior from here. Nothing is suggested that you would do so. Yeah, I don't know what to do on that one. Oh,$1 ,000 a month for the next two months or else if hundreds being added in interest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

59:57Oh, I know, I know. Personal loan. Oh, at 15.8%. What is this? $12 ,330.59. It is a massive balance. What is going on? So once upon a time, I had credit card debt. Oh, good. Please don't tell me you consolidated. Consolidation is not a bad thing. I want to be clear. Personal loans are not bad. Student loans are not bad. Consolidations are not bad. Bankruptcy. But I can get it as a last resort. It is bad if you don't fix your behavior. I was. I know. Yeah. Look where we are. But that one is 15 % compared. Like my logic was the credit cards were 30. No, it doesn't matter because you have racked up your credit cards again.

1:00:39So you doubled your debt from where it was. It doesn't matter what the interest rate is compared to the interest rate. But when that thing is. If you don't change your behavior, you become double. Yeah, but when that's done paid off, then I don't have that payment anymore. When the debt is done paid off, you don't have the payment anymore. Like it's a monthly payment for like five years or three years. Yes, that is how a debt works. Once it is paid off, you do not have a payment. Yeah. Did you just, did you seriously just tell me that? oh my goodness woman how have you made it this far in life all of that will be paid off in three years those are the dumb ones that have the most amount of children what is happening but listen when that has like a set time to be paid off are you sure we can't send you back to school with the 11 year old when the debt is paid off there's no more payments that's what happens I get it yes the minimum payment same with the car that you paid off same with the credit cards When it is done, it's done.

1:01:33Yeah. What are you saying then? Is there something else you're trying to say that maybe I'm not picking up? Maybe I'm here. Let's find out. Well, so that monthly payment is like$450 ,000. And in three years, it's$12 ,000 that I paid off. And then that's debt that's paid off. Oh, you're saying what is wrong with you? Oh. Yeah, that's how minimum monthly payments work. Okay. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. But it's three years. Do you tell yourself that every night? No, just once a month when I look at it. Okay, you're going to be 41, you tit. You tit, you small tit. It's fine, it's fine. Get it? Because you're flat?

1:02:18Yeah. Which we love the flat naturals, by the way. Don't hate yourself for that. I don't. Good. Good. You don't need to make them feel, oh, not great. Gosh, every time I... You know what? They might not even happen. and I've been wanting it to happen for 20 years, and it might not happen. Every time I've touched a fake tit, I've been very disappointed. I'm like, please. How do you know? Do you ask them, like, are your tits fake? Dude, touch a fake tit, you know it's fake. It's as clear as that. Have you never touched a fake tit? I don't know. Ask a friend. Yes, I have. Yes, I have. Yes, exactly.

1:02:47Women touch their tits all the time. Honestly, I like them both ways. Well, it looks like it's a$461, which is chunky, by the way. $461.60 monthly payment. It's because I wanted to pay it off in three years. Wait, this is the second time you did a lending club loan. Yeah. What the f***? I don't know. Why? So the first time, maybe third time's the charm. No, you're not doing it again. No, I'm not going to do it again. So no third time's the charm. What are you talking about? Or is this the third? No, that's the second one. What was the first one? The first one. The first one, I don't know. Was it?

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1:06:20Links are in the description below. Okay. Wow, 12 % paid off. Well done. Freedom card. What's going on? Hey, and no late fees on that one. That one, some of most of it went on to the loan, right? Okay, then you built back up. Shocker. Who would have thought? Slightly. $608.89 with the$40 minimum fee payment. Purchasing$121 while only making the minimum fee payment while accruing$12.72 of interest. 19 months to pay off. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? You consolidated this and you built it up to hundreds of dollars and takes. I forget that it was connected to Amazon. You forget everything.

1:06:53I forget everything. You forget everything. You delete Amazon. Pull up your Amazon. Okay. I will. But to be fair, some of this is not paid on my card. Some of it. Well, when I call it out and it wasn't, tell me. Okay. If it's like work stuff, that's obviously paid on my work card. And if it's coffee, that's my dad. Pull up your Amazon. Please hold. Please hold. Here you go. Yeah, it's Amazon, Amazon. $500 in interest this year so far. Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. What is this bullshit? See, some of it, my dad doesn't know how to use Amazon, so I put his card on there and he asked me to buy stuff for him.

1:07:33Is this a make it feel like you're having contraptions machine? I don't know. That's for his girlfriend. I don't know. I think it's a blood pressure thing. I don't know. Nitro elixir, poor hormone. That is my son's Christmas gift. He wanted cologne. Okay. Military model plan, assuming that's also for them. Professional resistance machine. That's his girlfriend. Actually, it's probably you. I don't think that's for your son. That's my friend's Christmas. That was mine and I didn't pay for it. The housemaid's secret. Oh, that's my secret. Is that one of those goon books? No, no, no. It's my secret Santa.

1:08:07All of that stuff, like the earrings and the bookmark. I did like a cute little secret Santa. Yeah, cute little secret Santa that you can't afford. Well done. That doesn't make it good. Countertop ice maker? F*** you. Oh, see, that was paid with... Doesn't matter. With what? It was paid with a company card. Okay, wire hooks, acrylic pens, Christmas tree skirt. That's all work. Spoon rest stovetop, chunky cotton knit. You got a Kendra Scott bullshit. Christmas. Windshield cover? F*** you. Doesn't matter. Christmas doesn't all of a sudden make it affordable, by the way. It really doesn't. I do not understand that logic.

1:08:41Knitting stockings. You got some caramel, French vanilla pump shit, coffee pump shit. Now lots of markers. You got a black double line, basic body, something. You got a skirt for women, a crown. Halloween. Halloween costumes. Oh my gosh, it doesn't matter though. That doesn't make it affordable. A holiday does not make it affordable. A birthday doesn't make it affordable. Yeah, but I can't just say like you can't have a Halloween costume. No, your kids are actually old enough where, okay, Halloween, and you might be able to do some like, some makeshift shit. But first of all, two of your kids are old enough to work, to be very clear, and get their own shit if they want to.

1:09:18Two, when it comes to Christmas, your kids may be, other than the 11-year-old, even then, are, Sue goes, Hannah, f*** that. You don't have to do that shit, but your kids alone, you can sit down and be like, yo, can't really afford as much this year, we'll try to do as much as we can, we'll double off Christmas next year, it'll be great, mama gotta work, okay? Can. Okay, she f***ed the 17-year-old, whoops, messed up my life. god forbid I hate hooking up but yet I go marry men that I have to divorce every second of our life so clearly we're doing men right but he listen their dad makes a lot of money sometimes good for him that's him and not you I can't have him get them like expensive gifts and then I'm over here like here's your$10 Target gift you know like it's not you can because you have an adult conversation with them as two of them are practically adults 17 year olds about to be and one is two years into adult adulthood, so.

1:10:10Well, him, I only got him one cologne. Well, there you go. See, it's working. You gotta have a conversation, but that all of a sudden doesn't mean you need to do Secret Santa either. I mean, I, yeah. Shut the fuck up. Slate,$40 minute to payment. Balance,$1 ,235 and 15 cents. Four years to pay off. Interest accruing. Purchasing. Absolute stupidity across the board as always. What are you doing? What is up with this card? What are you doing? That one too. I'm like, what did I? Oh my goodness, what is wrong with you? I don't know. I've had that card a very long time. You don't even know? Sometimes, you know, you just spend it and go.

1:10:46Spend it and go. What is Pinkberry? Oh, that's frozen yogurt. Die. Just what is wrong with you? It wasn't even for me. How is that more important than your kids? How is that more important than everything you're doing? Your mortgage, your emergency fund, your security. You've had a late fee this year so far. You're going to have a thousand hours of interest this year with this card. What is wrong with you? You don't give a shit. You don't give a shit. I do. And you divorced the first one because he's bad with finances? F*** you. And now you said he's making more money. Yeah. It's like, what? Okay.

1:11:17Double cash. What's going on? You're certainly not reaping the rewards. That one I just let my son use. Why? He is using it? Yeah. Why? There's interest in cruising, you moron. He needs like gas. Which kid? The 17-year-old. Because he drives the kids to school. 17-year-old. Good. Call him. No. Call him. No. Yes. I'm telling him he is not using this anymore. But it's because he doesn't have Apple Pay and I can't transfer him money. Call him. Yes. Call him. I'm telling him he cannot use this anymore. Mama's broke. Okay, okay. Call him. I'll tell him. Call him. I'll tell him. Call him. What is wrong with you?

1:11:55Yeah, but here's the thing. Why can't you call him? Because he drives the kids to school and sometimes he needs gas and I can't transfer money to him. Why can't you call him? Give him cash. Why can't you call him? Well, technically he's in Mexico right now with his dad. So? I don't know. Call him. I hate boundaries. I don't care. Call him. You're not my favorite. Okay, okay, we'll call him. I know, I know. Minimum's payment. $20 balance,$285.26. I won't swear in front of him because he's a kid. Yeah, he's a kid. Give me the phone, you f***er. See if he'll answer. Yeah, if you double call him. But he is in Mexico, so I don't know.

1:12:32Hi, honey. Hi. Hey, big guy. You can't spend on the city double cash card anymore, okay? Mama's going to give you cash. Wait, what? Oh, is that the guy? Yeah. Oh, I am the guy. Am I on TV right now? Well, you're on the internet, which is better, but. Oh. And I thought a 17-year-old would know that, but you're kind of talking like you're 80. That's fine. Listen, here's the thing. You can't spend on the city double cash card. Your mother was broke. She spent it all on frozen yogurt like a dumb butt. oh okay is that okay uh yeah cool yep take cash from her that's it enjoy mexico you don't have to stay there you can come back we'll allow it all right thank you all right love you bye he's such a good kid i love them so much i hope so well he's getting catalina food touch down something and then some gas.

1:13:35So it's more than just gas. Yeah. It's it. Well, I mean, he does a lot. He takes them to and from school every single day for me and his dad. He's a 17-year-old. I was working at 17. I don't want him to work. He needs to... What? Why? Because I want him to go to school. What? I went to school and worked. Are you stupid? What are you doing? What are you talking about? It's a lot of pressure. That's what I did. It's a lot of pressure. He has really good grades. What are you on about? He has good grades. A lot of people do this. I don't know. We'll see. No, that's a no, by the way. Well, I mean, his dad wants him to work.

1:14:05What? Yeah. Yes, because it is something good. I'm glad I did. I hated it. I'm glad I did it. I don't. Yeah, okay. I learned me to at least work for money. I know. He actually wants a job. Maybe I should have gone to school more instead of working. He wants a job. So he probably will get one. He wants one. Yes, he wants one. What is wrong with you? He's applied for them. It's hard. What am I going to do? Hard? Everyone except for you wants him to work. Yeah. Including himself. Stop being a helicopter mother. You can't even helicopter your own life. It's so hard. Who the fuck are you just to hold someone back?

1:14:39I'm not holding him back. Yes, you're not letting him get a job when he wants to get a job and learn some life skills. I just want to make sure that his grades stay good in school. Which, if they're not, then you start cracking the whip. Okay? Okay. That doesn't mean hold him back in every way whatsoever. People work and have good grades. Okay. I'm not saying he's working 40 hours a week, dude. Maybe he's picking up literally five hours a week, one half shift working lunch on a weekend at Jimmy John's or something. You know, something like that. He's earning a little extra cash to be able to go.

1:15:09I just didn't want him to go in the direction of like, you know, like sometimes you start working. You get a meth addict by working in the back of a kitchen with all the cooks? Sometimes you start working and you realize like, oh, I can make a lot of money right now. No. Instead of finishing school. Because that's not going to be a lot of money. No, what? I don't know. Who has that? I've never heard of that. I mean, that kind of happened with my oldest son. he got into the trade and like you don't need a degree. He's doing great. Yeah, so he did great right away. What? That's fine. I don't think this guy's going to get it being a busboy on the weekend.

1:15:38Yeah, no. Okay. Okay. I just want him to finish school. Yes, he was. Wait, did your oldest drop out of high school? Yeah, he didn't finish. Well, he's doing okay and it worked. I know, but I would be nice. Also, he wants to go into HVAC anyway. He already knows what he wants to do. I don't think he's going to pick. Okay. I know. Sick, dude. I know. I'll be fine. All right. Double the love. What is this? Ulta. That's right. Oh, Ulta. It's not working, is it? I actually don't spend a lot on makeup there. Right, which is why you owe$2 ,280.06. And this one I also paid off. This one I like paid off, paid off, didn't put on that loan.

1:16:15Uh-huh. Once upon a time. Right, but now it's at$3 ,000, basically$2 ,280. So my— Doesn't f***ing matter what it's been in the past. I know. With a$75 minimum payment, you're purchasing$58.62 on this. What is wrong with you, mother? Well, so my youngest went into middle school. And when you go into middle school, you can have a phone. And their dad. They have a phone in middle school? I would never. Yeah, because he takes the bus. And like you need to know. I took the bus and I did not have a phone. Yeah, but things were different. Hold on, boomer moment. Yes, I know. But I would never. Yeah. I didn't think I would let my kids get a phone until high school.

1:16:51And me and my girlfriend, we want to have kids maybe in like a year or two. So, you know, I'm already thinking about that. Guess what? They're not f***ing watching Coco bullshit. No, no, no, no, no. So I just need to know. Well, he's too old for that, I would think. I just need to know. Not having a f***ing device at this day and age with all the insane people online. So he's the youngest, so he might not have, you know, the youngest is a little bit. Dude, that dude is f***ing watching. No, he's not. First of all, he's not. Second of all, he takes. First of all, a sixth grader with a phone, I promise you, as someone who was a sixth grader at one point, that dude is watching.

1:17:23You're giving him free access to the internet? No, he needs permission. Like he has an iPhone, so there are permissions on the phone. Like he can't, it shuts off. You can't go on Google Chrome? He has to ask for permission. To go on Google Chrome? I don't know. Or Stephon? I doubt, I doubt he is. He's watching YouTube videos. He's playing Roblox. You don't know what kids going through puberty do. Well, I drop him off at the bus stop. And so I need to like know because he takes the bus now instead of me. We've all taken the bus. Okay, but things are different. He's there by himself. What? Things are different?

1:18:02The predators are out more than ever? Like, what are you talking about? No, because we need to coordinate. You're the one who picks up 17-year-olds on the road. Okay. And that's, listen, we needed to coordinate. Okay. I needed to know that his little dot. He goes to the bus stop. What is it? Two blocks away? No. Where's the bus stop? How far is the bus stop? So I drop them off. Like, he's far. You dropped him off at a bus stop. Yes. He's fine. He's at the bus stop. Okay, but what happens when I drive away? Is he the only one at the bus stop? What happens when you drive away? He waits for the bus, you moron.

1:18:31It's on a busy road. Oh, you're, no, you're, you're in a, you're an AC 130 mom. You've elevated, you've upgraded. No, but anyways, we, he needs to like call his brother and see where he's at when the bus dropped him off. They, all three of them need to coordinate getting off the bus together. Walkie talkies. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. All I'm saying is just like everyone has survived and it's not necessarily the healthy. We know that kids' mental health is absolutely f***ing through devices. Just f***ing through devices. Instagram for women. He does other things. Like he's not just always on his phone.

1:19:05He's not an iPad kid. Well, it's not just about that. It's literally just so toxic. You can fall into these extremist pipelines. Okay. Anyway. Yeah, your purchase on the, yeah, needed a phone. Yeah. Yeah, which is why we went inside and got some bullshit from the gas station and McDonald's. And the mayor is close. La Bocas. $48.12. Maybe it's a restaurant. Oh, my. And then a late fee. I know. All because our sixth grader needed a goon machine. That dude's going to be a f***ing predator before. Now at the Home Depot. Receive 12-month special financing and free basic installation on carpet projects with LifeProof, LifeProof with PetProof Technology, Home Decorators Collection, and Traffic Master Carpets.

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1:20:27Much more aggressive about it than me. And see, you have to come to the same page on that because when you have different parenting then. No, I'm allowing it because I think she's right. Yeah. It happens and you have like. Well, listen. I don't encourage your kids to watch. No, but I wouldn't give them the device that encourages them to watch. Okay, 401k loan. Oh, yeah, that happened. Why? Okay, so I saved money for the house, and then I realized that I didn't want to put all my savings in the house down payment. And so I was like, well, you know, I could get like a 401k loan. Yeah, and where is this 401k loan gone?

1:21:02I'm... Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Something happened, and I needed to spend money. I don't know. Needed, needed. I don't trust your need. Yeah. Okay, Navy Rewards. This is a f***ing student, by the way. She owes$10 ,623. What gets taken from your paycheck to go towards that on a monthly basis? $100. And what happens if you get fired and it's called due? I know. Yeah, I thought about that. Yeah, because$100 ain't going to make that move very much. You're not taking advantage of the market as much. Actually, I need to, yeah. Well, okay, so someone had told me like, oh, it's a good idea because you pay yourself back interest.

1:21:32Like that made sense. Yeah, but you're still losing to the market. Wait, so I have a question. So that money that's on the loan is not in the market? Like only the money that I pay back? That's wild. What, that he's busting nuts? Yeah. What are you talking about? This actually blows your mind? They're blowing loads. It blows your mind? In their room? Yes, in the shower, down the drain. There are children being flushed down that drain. I shower in that shower. Yes, you do. Even my old. Ugh. Okay. Well, first of all, I extra wanted a fact check because the answer is no, but I wanted to make sure there was no loophole that you could invest through the market.

1:22:14Leave some of that in because that was funny. Do you still have a balance on this card? Am I writing this down? No, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, you've had like late shit on it. I know. JPpenny. That one should be very minimal too. Well, it is small, so I don't know why you don't just pay it off. You need to close your cards. I know. You already have a house. You're going to stay in this house forever, so you don't need access to credit. Close your accounts. it doesn't matter. Close your accounts. You cannot be trusted with balances. These two all close. No, all. Okay. $193.32. They're all just holding you back.

1:22:42It's a hammer that is a tool but you're just swinging back and hitting your face. Okay, okay. $30 a minute to payment $193.32 is owed on it. Fees and interest and bullshit. This is so stupid. I know. This one I kept forgetting to pay so I put on automatic payments. A late fee on this with a balance of only$189. I don't even know what this account is. I don't even know what this is. It's not even titled. The Smile Generation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Prices? Yeah. It's almost paid off to you. Yeah, except you relate. I told you the little ones I forget about. Well, then if you actually budget instead of sometimes budgeting like a dumb$189.40.

1:23:19It's because I wait for the email to come in and sometimes I have too many emails. $41. Email? Open the account, you fool. What is wrong? You're incapable of everything. I don't know how you have survived, how your children have survived. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. For credit. Yeah. Okay. Care credit,$32 minimum fee payment. What's this for at a balance of$984.63? Yeah. See, this is what happens when you have endless debt, no emergency fund, everything that has to happen, like graces or wisdom teeth, is new debt. Yeah. But that's on no interest, and it'll get paid off before the interest ends. I certainly hope so.

1:23:55Yeah. Okay, yeah, because deferred interest is accruing like dick. Oh, there's still more. I'm trying to get to the end of this debt. That's my mortgage. That's my mortgage. Great. a mortgage that we cannot afford that we have a negative equity position in the house. I can. Nope. You literally just said after you make your mortgage payment, sometimes you don't have enough money to make it to the next month. You cannot afford it. $2 ,093.36 on a monthly basis. Yes, this is all your fault. Well done. I'm glad you're figuring that out finally. Because technically I should have$3 ,000 left over. No, there's more bills outside of just a mortgage, you moron.

1:24:29$301 ,799.56. sense. I hope your extremist child that you've given a phone to doesn't come and mass shoot me after I just called his mother a moron on TV. I know. He's a very cute kid. You know this is on YouTube for the rest of forever. Yeah, it's fine. They might watch it at 70. No, very cute kids. Very well-rounded. It'll be nice to see for them what their mother looked like before she got slutty fake tits. They'll remember they're old enough. It'll be good memory. Like, oh, my mom before she was a slut. Before she was a whore. At least I waited until after they were out of the house. No, whore it up.

1:25:06We love whores. Whores are great. I'm a whore. I want to be whore. Whore it up. We love whores. I don't know. Whores is not an insult. Be a slut. That's not an insult. We love it. Do it. Thumbs up. We'll see. Listen, if I want to be a whore, I need other people to be whores so that we can whore together. Here's the thing. I want to, but I just fall in love. You don't want to be a whore. No, I don't. You may hook up, so. Yeah. But be a whore. Okay, your Edmunds appraisal for your car that you've paid off is$3 ,194. Average and out at$4 ,158, but yours has a little issues. You know, a couple of cosmetic or whatever that we got in with your VIN.

1:25:36And Edmunds is the most accurate, so. And eventually after I pay all this, I do want to get a new car. Checking account, McDop. You want to do everything after. Okay, see, this is why it's like, what's even the point of paying all this debt off? Because you're just, you know, you're just throwing it all away. No, it'll be like. You're just going to. No, I mean like New tits, new car But they all have meaning behind it Student loans for the kids Good, you know No, I don't, shut up McDonald's, after pay I didn't even see your after pay But you're paying towards after pay Zelling Okay, so Spectrum's fine It's internet, right?

1:26:11And Iggy's No, Cox's internet Huh? Cox's internet What the fuck even is that? I don't Check the way, Spotify Going in and getting some bullshit Walmart, In-N-Out Rembrandt photo. Oh, senior pictures. Oh my gosh. You're almost a senior citizen and you don't even have enough to survive. Home plate, home plate, Audible, Cinemark. Go to the library, Audible. Amazon, going and getting some bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit! Ranch Bar! Bullshit Afterpay! Bullshit! Hulu Plus, JCPenney, Zellin' it out! One Day Nail Spa! God, let me see. Let me see! It's not here. It's not even good. It's not even worth it.

1:26:57You don't have a life worth living for you. You live in Tucson. Savings has gone down$100 now at$13. It goes in and out. Uh-huh. Service for three bucks. I don't know. Let's see if we can budget this. This is just a mess. You just destroy all your money. I hope I can. I think you can. Oh, we'll see. I think you can. All the faith. Okay. Well,$5 ,000 is our income. We know your mortgage is$2 ,093.36. Let's get the rest of your debt minimum payments. $75.

1:27:38Okay. The rest of your debt minimum payments are$1 ,065.71. To me, so that's$3 ,000 gone already. Gas, electric, utilities, all combined, plus internet. How much? Hold on. Let me look. Big guy. You don't know? Come on. I know. I know. It's mad. Okay. So my internet is like 670, like 65. And then my phone bill is like 20. 670, 65? For what? Huh? 65. 65 for internet. Oh, okay. And then. What is it? What is everything? Mm-hmm. Trash. So how much total? $170. Okay. Including internet? Yeah. Good. Phone bill? That's in. That's in there. Ah. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive. Like$40. Okay. You don't go anywhere.

1:28:33That's depressing. Car insurance? Like$180. Okay. Food. For this house. Okay. $17. So I usually spend like... You go out to eat. Shut the f*** up. No, no, no. Your budget doesn't matter. You're also meal prepping. I don't care. I spend like$200. in groceries. You also got to eat, so it doesn't matter. You don't know what you're talking about. Okay, okay, okay. Just stop. I'm putting you on an actual budget that makes... Shut up. Be quiet now. $800. That's a lot. Huh? That's a lot. Well, actually, because you have them half the time. You're right. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to do$700. TP Fund, anything else for you and the kids to survive?

1:29:07I'm going to say$250, and I'm actually going to bring food down to$650. Medical healthcare. Are there co-pays, monthly basis, anything? Mm-mm. Ain't no medications, no therapy? No. Okay. No, I just stopped there. The kids will need it after hearing this episode. I just ended my thing. Pets? No. Thank you. Yeah, I'm very allergic. Gym? Right now, I think it's like$100 a year, but I've already paid it for the year. But I want a different gym. So I'm going to say like$30 a month. Okay. $40 for subscriptions. Anything else that needs to be in your budget before we're done? No, I don't think so. Can you put vacation in there?

1:29:48Nope. Oh, f*** off, Di. What are you talking about? Let's see where you are. If I can allocate a couple hundred dollars to fun on a monthly basis, you can save it up. Okay. On a monthly basis and choose where that goes. But I would also just take care of the f***ing kids. Okay, okay. You dick. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So it's only$40 in subscriptions. I wonder, that means I'll have to cut like... Yeah, you'll have to cut some things. Okay. Okay. And yes, you have a decent amount left over. Just have to f*** the budget. $3 ,869.07 on a monthly basis to survive. $1 ,130.39. I'll give you$130.39 in fund money.

1:30:27You decide where that goes. Not going to be much vacation, but 1 ,000 hours a month left. If you're 37, that takes 37 months to pay off your bad debt. And then stop going into your pool. Just turn your life around. You're dramatically behind on retirement. You own, you have 401k. Well, actually, your debt's even higher because we didn't have that first card in the calculation. 40 months to pay off your debt, get a fully funded emergency fund, then live 50, 25, 25. 50 % goes to needs. 25 % goes to fun. It can be whatever. Save it up on a monthly basis. Go on a big trip. Whatever. 25 % goes to retirement because you got to catch up.

1:31:01That's what you're doing. Okay. Two years to pay off the debt. Get a fully funded emergency fund. This is not that complicated. Okay. Well, not two years. It's going to take probably like three and a half years. Is there a way to do it in two years? Yeah. That'd be even better. Make more money. Okay. Make more money. Get your raises. Work a second job when the kids aren't there. I don't know. And that's hard. So it would probably have to be like contract job, like you driving for shit, like Uber or whatever. I don't know. Okay. Let's get your Hammer Financial Score. We're going to go to the post show.

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