I’m Done With Financial Audit

22 Nov 2024 · 1 h 27 min

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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary: "I’m Done With Financial Audit"

Episode Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, host Caleb Hammer interviews Lydia, a 30-year-old from Biloxi, Mississippi, who is navigating a tumultuous financial situation. The episode highlights Lydia's struggles with debt, unemployment, and poor spending habits, leading to a candid discussion about financial responsibility and the consequences of financial decisions.

Key Characters

  • Caleb Hammer: Host and financial expert.
  • Lydia: The guest, recently unemployed and facing financial difficulties.

Discussion Points

Financial Situation

  • Current Employment:
  • Lydia recently secured a job with a salary of $61,000, but is currently unemployed and has negative funds in her checking account.
  • She expresses urgency to move to Huntsville, Alabama for her new job but is struggling with housing arrangements.
  • Unemployment Issues:
  • Lydia has applied for unemployment benefits but faced an investigation due to her previous employer disputing her employment status.
  • She eventually clears the investigation but is waiting for her unemployment debit card, highlighting her precarious situation.

Spending Habits

  • Extravagant Spending:
  • Despite being unemployed and in the negative, Lydia has spent over $600 on eating out.
  • Discussions reveal that she's not managing her expenses well, with a tendency to prioritize dining out over essential bills.
  • Debt Accumulation:
  • Lydia admits to accumulating significant debt, including overdraft fees exceeding $1,000 in the year.
  • Caleb points out her lack of an emergency fund, emphasizing that being without savings during unemployment is a critical mistake.

Self-Reflection and Denial

  • Rationalizing Spending:
  • Lydia justifies her high spending on dining and social outings, claiming it's necessary for her mental wellbeing and lifestyle, although she acknowledges her poor financial state.
  • Caleb challenges her understanding of what constitutes a necessity, leading to a broader discourse on financial literacy and responsibility.
  • Awareness vs. Action:
  • Lydia expresses awareness of her spending issues but struggles to implement changes, indicating a pattern of avoidance and denial about her financial reality.
  • She reflects on her past attempts at budgeting and debt repayment but admits to falling back into poor habits.

Future Prospects

  • Goals and Aspirations:
  • Lydia has aspirations for a stable financial future, including homeownership, but her current habits suggest a lack of readiness to change.
  • Caleb emphasizes the necessity of altering her mindset and behaviors surrounding money to achieve her financial goals.

Key Takeaways

  • The Importance of Budgeting: Caleb stresses the need for a structured budget and the dangers of living beyond one’s means.
  • Understanding Debt: There’s a clear distinction made between good and bad debt, with Lydia needing to learn how to manage and prioritize her debts effectively.
  • Behavioral Change Necessary for Success: Caleb emphasizes that Lydia must change her financial behaviors if she wishes to achieve her goals, underscoring the need for accountability.

Conclusion This episode of Financial Audit serves as a painful reminder of the consequences of poor financial management and the importance of taking responsibility for one’s financial choices. Through Lydia's story, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their financial habits and embrace the necessary changes for a healthier financial future. The discussion between Caleb and Lydia is both humorous and sobering, illustrating the complex relationship many have with money.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube.

0:31Hi, my name is Lydia. I'm 30 years old. I'm from Biloxi, Mississippi, and this is Financial Audit. Hey, wow. Thanks for coming down from Mississippi. What do you do there for a living? So I'm currently unemployed, but I will be moving. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. I'm fixing this for the audience. I know what you think. She just got her job. She just got her job. I did just get a job, but I just haven't started it yet. I haven't started it yet. She's getting her job. She has an income. I do have an income. For f*** sake. I am. I do. What is the job you're going to? It's going to be doing logistics for private sector for the DOD.

1:08Oh, okay. So. What does that entail? It'll be like pretty much doing ordering like an arms dealer for the military essentially. Oh, wow. Okay. Sure. Things I can't say online. Gotcha. And how much are you going to be making in this position? 61. Okay. Wow. Very cool. which is a pretty good raise from what i was making what were you making um i was making 48 and then a new company took over bumped me down to 42 okay i got riffed from my last job yeah um which is how long have you been unemployed now since uh probably about a month yeah and you get a job when uh i'm supposed to be starting at the end of this month so good hopefully you're supposed to be is there skepticism around it well i'm trying to move so i'm trying to figure out To where from Biloxi?

1:59To Huntsville, Alabama. Is it close? Six hours. So, no. Yes. Is that where work is? Yes. Then you have to move. Yeah, no, I'm going to move. I just, my lease doesn't end until Sunday. So I'll be in there. What Sunday? This Sunday? Yeah. And you don't have where you're going next figured out? I do, but they're taking forever. What is the issue? They're taking so long to get back to me. I've been like asking I've been calling them asking them emailing them they just about what gets back to you and about what I don't know like I'm I've had to sign like 10 papers like rent verification and blah blah blah and they're just like and I'm like hey I need to find a place to live because I have to start my job so please let me just move I don't understand what are you waiting for um are you did you have you signed a lease no I haven't okay you haven't signed a lease So you're still going through the application.

2:52Yes. So you don't even know if you're approved. No, I don't know yet. And as of this Sunday, you will have no place to live. Well, I have a place to fall back on. I just want my mom's. And where is she? Is she in the right place or the wrong place? She's in the wrong place. So I would have to like push back starting if I was to have to like not have a place. You can't though. I know I can't. You can't. I know. That's not an option. Get an Airbnb. I could. Yeah. so i was thinking about doing that she got excited yeah so i do want to do the airbnb or like one of those micro tell things where you like live weekly sure but i'm also just trying to like strong arm my way into that apartment you should but sunday come on yeah six days from now is that real wrong with that um i mean i really don't have any other choice i can't extend my lease i can't go i think the other choice are the ones we literally just said yeah the ones we literally just said perhaps yeah but i don't have i don't have a way to secure housing up there like i don't have the money for an airbnb or or a hotel or anything how much is in your checking account right now um how much isn't is the bigger question i know how much is in your checking account right I have negative money in my checking account at the moment.

4:14So, yeah. I guess that you're unemployed, but why is there negative money? Because I've still had bills to pay. No, no, no. I get that part. I get that part. You got laid off, right? I did. Did you file for unemployment? I did, but I'm being investigated. So, yeah. For what? Well, I don't know. Oh, come on. how does he not know anything um i asked so i asked who what asked who what when where why what are you talking about i called the unemployment office i said okay they're investigating you yes so my one of my old jobs was like not agreeing to the terms that i was not employed there anymore so again again what yeah no what they're not agreeing to the terms that you're not working there anymore yeah even though i put my two weeks in they are claiming that you work there yes but i will say i just got um yes what was it why do you gotta we're filming this on a monday why do you gotta bring this this kind of mess into okay okay yes it's the mondays but i did get good news that they took me out of investigation i got approved for unemployment I'm just waiting for the debit card to come in which is should be this week sometime you're negative so you didn't have an emergency fund and not having an emergency fund is an emergency fun fact you are proof of that okay I know you came here with a boyfriend he couldn't help he's not fallbackable not that I want you to milk him or anything but he's not fallbackable he is not fallbackable I've been wait why is that one to help he no I mean like so yes and no he has been going through school and I've been supporting us oh you're support oh yes so I've had like two or three jobs if you want 40 wait yeah no no no speaking of which what okay I get you're trying to file for unemployment and everything in here but you're getting investigated if you're literally in the point where you're getting negative on checking account because you're dying because you're dying because you don't have any money why not go drop some mcfries for a minimum hour a week necessary to at least make your bills flat um well i was working also you spent 601 dollars going out to eat so i no longer have sympathy that you're negative in checking accounts not only for bills you you went out and ate haha yes that's funny we can't afford to survive nothing more comedic than that well okay what but was it actually like yes how but like what was it spent on because some of the statements but they are fast food places okay i can i can or restaurants i mean possibly but i feel like some of those may have not been like what the food how what are you talking about i have$601.50 actually grocery is$173 okay well i mean what I just really don't understand I don't think I spent$600 going out There's no way How's this a think I think What do you mean That's not how this works We also had miscellaneous bullshit $999.06 Again we're gonna go through that Also I just You just got fact checked by the way by the producers 15 different restaurants Oh But like what restaurants because i don't feel like that's real statements okay but i will say i'm also paying for two people well no no no no no no no stop stop for a second stop for a second let's try to use our the wrinkliness in our brain for just a single moment why the are you even just paying for yourself going out to eat but then again another person if we're negative in our checking account i'm gonna hit you with a little fun fact a little just a little morsel of fun fact a thousand dollars in overdraft fees this year so far in one account one account you do not get to go out to eat you do not get to go take your friend out to eat you are overdrafting and you're negative as of now i didn't know you were negative as of now i knew you were overdrafting so i wouldn't have been surprised but i didn't know you were negative as of now i thought i saw a balance in there as I was going through these before.

8:42Apparently not. So, in what world do you think you're entitled to go out to eat or take him? In what world does he think you should be taking him out to eat? What the f*** is that delusion that he has? I think it's just because... He's too much of a f*** to come on camera and talk, by the way. Well, I think that I'm also just lazy and I don't want... After I've worked two, three jobs in a day, I don't want to like... Girl, you work zero jobs right now. What the f*** are you talking about? Okay, now... I'm only talking about right now. I know. This is right now. I'm only looking at right now. I know, but if you think about it, I'm spending how I used to spend when I was making money.

9:19So I'm like, you know what I mean? Yeah, so usually when you're not making money, you don't spend what you used to do when you make money. I know. What? What are you talking about? You can't just, like, take yourself out of that. Yes, you can't. What are you talking about? I mean. What are you, like, a literal baby? Are you, like, a child that cannot survive without the milk of tea? Well, I mean, I just think that I'm very, very set in my ways on how I spend my money. I have concepts of a budget in my head. So I think, OK, well, I can spend what I can. You have concept of a budget? Concepts of a budget.

10:02All right. All right. OK. But honestly, I really don't feel like that's that valid of there's no way I spent that much money. Like, it really doesn't feel realistic. What do I even do with that? That's not a point that I can even have a conversation with. You can't agree on basic f***ing reality.

10:26Obviously, we did have your last payroll hit. Did you get severance? No. Okay, we had your last payroll hit. 3 ,834 total for the month that's not absolutely bad yeah then you know on a plate for a second as you're waiting for your new job okay so how much did you spend in that month then in the most recent month probably 4 ,000 maybe more maybe less i feel like it was probably about 4 ,000 because i do know approximately how much i spend a month approximately four yeah yeah 5 ,592 what the f*** are you talking about you don't know anything you don't know approximate you've never heard of the word approximate approximate is the planet you f***ing came from well I well okay so was it all on just like bulls*** girl this is just the number that was spent for f***s sake here's your little breakdown I already told you how much went to food but you're like no that's not food that's not food 10 % by the way went to Eden out But guess what You're right if it was just If you spent the amount that was your income But reminder You spent what 20 % more than you made Yeah but 10 % 10 % up 20 % more than you made So of your Actual income I mean I can do the math Also if you're negative in your chicken account yes 10 % is bad Like in what world Do you live in where that's not considered bad are you again i don't know that just seems so childish i don't want to just like actually insult you to insult you but that is literally like the action of a child of your income you spent 16 16 on going out to eat okay well negative in our checking account so you like you you is the only reasonable response it really is yeah well i think that oh boy let's hear what you think it's the convenience of it to be honest yes i know why i know why no one's disputing the why because you're a lazy i know why huh taco tuesdays yeah taco make a taco i know you're white but you can do it i believe in it like white people tacos aren't good yeah learn then huh google a recipe that's free yeah well for sake self-assess where do you think you are in the world of finances zero out of 10 where do you think you are 10 being the absolute best zero being the absolute worst where do you think you are i'm gonna be a little generous with myself why why be well before you say it why be generous with yourself because i really okay i do think i have an idea of how money works i'm just bad with it so but where do you think your finances are not where your mentality is where do you think your literal finances are right now zero yes maybe one A reasonable answer.

13:25Thank you, negative checking in an account. Absolutely. Maybe a one. Okay. Even still, potentially reasonable. If you want your Hammer Financial Score, it's free. Link in the description below. Check it out. It's fun. You can see where you are and see where you need to improve your life. And if you want to come on this show, by the way, and you are at least willing to accept that you spent$600 going out to eat when I literally have it in front of me, go to Calebhammer.com slash apply we'd be happy to have you here in Austin, Texas I got to start this because this is a pretty thick stack we had fat stack week here at Financial Audit it was very fun and ever since then we've had like three weeks of kind of like thinner stacks but we're back to kind of a pretty damn fat stack which is not good news for you well that's why I'm here, right?

14:14let's get into it

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17:04We'll see. Alright, you got $2 ,334.18 over down here. Not a good balance for unemployed, but, you know, relatively manageable balance for someone who's about to make a good amount of money. Especially Mississippi, not one of the higher cost states to live in. So,$61 ,000, do you feel like you're going to stretch that pretty decently? Well, probably not you, but the average person? I'm hoping to stretch it pretty decently. What, helping your boyfriend no actually he has a job now is he gonna move with you he is if he if he then you can fall back on him he but he just got like he hasn't even gotten paid yet like he just got it what he's doing a paid internship um for okay how much is he making 16 an hour 40 hours 40 hours oh okay so it's really not bad and it's it's six months six to nine months just depends on well with a relatively good career track at that company if he sticks around yeah you're gonna be able to move with you?

18:01Four hours away is a long time. Six hours away, but yeah, he's wanting to move. Once the internship ends, they have, it's a bank, so they have branches in other areas, so. And then on this card, we have a minimum monthly payment of 80 bucks. These minimum monthly payments are gonna stack. Yeah. Yeah, but. Oh my f***. You creature. I guess it makes sense if you refuse to stop spending and you didn't make anything during this last month, you put the minimum towards it, which was$59 at that time. Wonderful. But you purchased$330, which doesn't make sense. You're just, you're literally hurting yourself.

18:40You're pushing it to the limit, to the actual limit. And then there's$57 and eight cents. So my favorite question to ask is, why the are you spending on a credit card that you can't pay off and it's accruing interest? I'm actually not sure what I spent on that card. Oh, come on. No, I'm like being real. I really have no idea what I spent on that card. You better be. No, I get it. Cool. Congratulations. But why are you spending on a credit card that you cannot pay off that is a Korean interest? Well, because I know I can pay it off in the future. And all I have to do is make - No, the future is now when you're not paying it off.

19:11So, what do you mean? You probably said that in the past. It didn't take you a date. Well, you could have. But it probably took a little bit of time to build up the$2 ,000 balance that was there before the now$2 ,334 balance. So, you probably told yourself that your future self would take care of it. Guess what? Your future self got unemployed. and then you didn't have an emergency fund because you weren't acting like an adult while you were making money. And now you have to move and you can't afford to move and then your future self is just playing catch up, catch up, catch up. I'm almost pretty sure that I spent that after I was unemployed.

19:41Yes. Yes, we have your most recent statements. I know. But I knew I was going to have another job. So I felt like it was okay. No, no, no, no. You had this previous balance, the previous balance, while you had the other job. the other job so this isn't working that logic is not filling you had another job you had income but you were not paying it off so that's not how it works you're not just paying it off when you get another job because you weren't paying it off when you had a previous job so what are you talking about in what world does that logic apply no you're allowing yourself to bull yourself you're excusing yourself to spend money I mean I think what I spend is justified justified you don't even know what you spent on and you're saying it's justified Well, yeah, because if I spent the money, I think that's justified.

20:30Or I wouldn't spend the money. But you don't even know. Yeah, but I wouldn't spend the money if I didn't know what it was. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't. If it wasn't justified, I wouldn't spend it. But, like, spending it. So, obviously, I spent it for a reason. This world is insane. Do you realize what you are saying? Yeah. Oh, f*** me. That's not funny. I'm just laughing out of just like, like what the I mean, I, okay. I understand that I probably shouldn't spin when I don't have a job, but I knew that it was like, I knew that. No, you can't laugh with me. You don't know why I'm laughing.

21:10I am laughing at you. That is so delusional. Yeah. But I've, that's just how I've always been. I really like, that's just me. So I know. Okay. Yeah. I made a lot of mistakes too. so I can just say forever, yeah, this is how I am and f***ing around my entire life. What do you mean? You're never going to change? You're never going to try to better yourself? How long have you been with your boyfriend? Seven and a half years. Okay, that's a decent amount of time. Something tells me we might be together for a bit, meaning maybe marriage is in the future. Possibly. Meaning you're going to destroy him because you refuse to make any change or progress or maturity in your life.

21:45You're 30. Congratulations, you're no longer 20. I'm old. You cannot make these mistakes like you have been doing and you certainly cannot make the excuse of this is just how i've been yeah but i've always had a terrible time with money i know but i'm just like shut your face for a second i shut i literally just told you why i don't give a about the i used to or this is how i am i know i don't care and then you immediately go back to that after nodding your head yeah but i'm so cool like obviously here to change those no that's not but i've had those habits for so long it's so hard to like get out of that because i've been here before like i've done okay i've i've racked up i've paid it off i've racked up i pay it off i rack up and you're just it's a vicious cycle i can't like i i'm not breaking so okay why do you think you haven't broken it i to be honest i just think i feel like i want it so like if i want it i'll get it like i don't have any way to i don't tell myself no yeah i just don't that's the cycle not even addictive things or coping or anything it's just like i want so i get pretty much i mean so like do you want to retire yeah but i want to get a home how much is in your retirement 25 000 okay you're behind for retirement yes but i took out a home with a boyfriend future husband possibly i do want a home okay maybe not with him well no like i do want one with him as well i just don't want to get married being in the financial situation that we're in okay so you want to change it yeah but you want that what i want more at the when i'm when I'm doing the purchase yes like I don't think about the future I just think like oh my god I just I like the way that looks I want to get it I don't know about the repercussions I just do it yeah so I could see that yeah that's really really bad time of like that like FOMO feeling I don't want to like miss out on stuff you know what this means though what this actually means for you is okay maybe that is you and we just have to accept that part but you can't have access to credit cards then because that is the most dangerous mindset to have when you are given unlimited money pieces of plastic you can spend infinite and then you can't you just self-confess it'll go down then it goes up and it'll go down then it goes up you are not a credit card person you need to use like a debit card that builds credit like the fizz card do that i recommend it to all the guests unless they're really bad but i think you with at least your understanding or in desire to get out of it you could use a resource like that

24:41man you're just not a credit card you can't have access to credit cards you're gonna credit but you need to close the account you know what the thing is i paid off i paid off my credit cards and i cut them up like physically cut them up when how many all them before i got laid off yeah oh you didn't build all these up since you got laid off two weeks ago a month ago Okay a month ago You did not build up literal tens of thousands Well I did I took a loan to pay them off I don't know how much I actually racked up Are you saying when you paid them down You took a loan You didn't pay them down lady You didn't pay them down You just moved the debt somewhere else And then you built them right And then you And then you built them right back up again If we met If I met with you before that I would have said do not do the consolidation because the consolidation is great for a lot of people But not until you build the discipline that is necessary to actually get out of debt Because then you will have proven to yourself that you will not get into it again You don't actually pay off any cards you moved it and because you didn't address any of your actual behavioral problems or Understanding of what a credit card is you just built them all the way back up again.

25:59You yourself We should have met a month ago But I took that loan out Before I knew I was getting laid off So it all kind of like That doesn't matter regardless You wouldn't have changed your behavior if you weren't laid off Well no that's what I was saying I obviously didn't change because I cut up my cards physically But then I used my Digital cards And people wonder why I say Close the account sometimes instead of just cutting them up That's why everything's digital now For f*** sake close the account log in call them close the account you cannot have access to these you cannot you are irresponsible you speak like a child you do not understand anything about money you have no respect for debt you have no respect for debt you cannot have access to it okay okay it saves you it saves you and it saves your future relationship it saves the goals that you have yeah and i do i have goals and that's why i like i feel like what are some of the goals i want to buy a home i want to be financed i don't want to like worry about have how much i have in my bank account anymore like i want a stress-free life like i don't want to have that i wake up and think about it because you have nothing yeah well negative nothing but yeah i just like i don't want to like go through and be like oh i have to buy gas like I wonder if it's going to overdraft my account.

27:22I don't want to feel like that anymore. You don't look? Sometimes I look. And we're bouncing? Well, sometimes. I don't know. If we're overdrafting a thousand times in a year, looking should be a basic minimum requirement for you. I mean, okay. So with retirement, aspects of retirement, I do want to retire. And I do. And I look at my retirement account. But the reason why it's so low is because when I was in my previous debt situation, when I was in my early 20s,

27:56I closed out my 401k and used that to... No! I just closed it out, though. I didn't take a loan on it. I just took the money, and then I had to pay a ton of taxes. That's probably worse than taking a loan on it. But ever since then, I don't touch that because I know that's... When did you take it out? how much was it how much did you drain from your 401k i don't know bingo here we go that was a long time ago it was like 10 years ago at least so i was probably 20 yeah yeah how much money did you have in your 401k at 20 um probably like 10 thousand yeah it was dumb that's incredible that 10 000 would have been like what uh 25 000 by now yeah your retirement would have been double double yeah but you'd actually been on track for where I wanted you.

28:45Actually, for your previous income, you would have been right on track for retirement. You're halfway there now, but you would have been right on track. And you mean previous? Are you saying you paid off debt previously before the consolidation as well? Oh, yeah. I've had a few like consolidation loans before. How many times have we been through this process in your life? At least three that I remember. What is different this time? What the I know we're talking, but what is actually different? Because we can go through this whole thing, but. I know, but I feel like I feel like I've made like I have.

29:20Okay, maybe it doesn't reflect that I've made the changes, but I've made the changes. Like, I feel like I'm ready to like. Girl, you know, you're negative in your checking account. You're spending$600 in a single month when you're on a plane making no money going out to eat. What the are you talking about? This is huge for financial audit. For a year now, my team and I have worked with experts to create what I truly believe are the three best educational programs in the financial space online. We have our budgeting program where I teach you how to create, manage, and revolutionize your budget and control your money.

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30:34and finally you can too at a more affordable price head to calebhammer.com or click the link in the description below you will not regret this i mean in no world is there change in here unless change for the worse when you put it that way it doesn't sound as good yeah when i reflect the reality of existence in my head it sounds good about your head i give a about what you do yeah what yeah but like that's why i'm here is to change that right if i walk by someone in my head i'm thinking oh this person looks nice let's just keep walking by them but in person i punch him in the face i still punch him in the face even if in my head i was doing something nice so i don't give a about what's in your head i give a about what you actually do yeah i think i just you want to know what you spent in this account it was probably necessary right because you know you were just saving you're just surviving spending to survive right simply sweet something there oh wait i do know what that was for uh-huh it was a hotel i went up to the job fair to get my job that i'm going down that's okay cracker barrel okay well i was traveling i was hungry and their biscuits are good huh that's a six hour old sandwich pack some crackers you know don't pack a thermos are you like stupid well what are you doing do you not know technology that has existed for the last 50 years but they're like biscuits are good yeah their biscuits are good not having negative balance in your checking account is also pretty good being able to have the adequate amount to retire is also pretty good being able to afford a down payment on a house is also pretty good having a credit card that we can pay off is also pretty good there's a lot of things are pretty good all that stuff is sticking around these biscuits they're sticking no that's been pushed out months weeks ago yeah okay and then brick and spoon we really needed to spend 95 dollars at brick and spoon yeah that was um a like birthday brunch for my boyfriend's mom happy birthday boyfriend's mom let's have boyfriend pay for it like a big boy that was also us like we hey hey hey hey hey hey you have negative money in your checking account it doesn't matter what you were about to say i don't care i don't care i but well well you're gonna well me from that I'm just saying it's justified that's why I'm thinking but it is literally not hey you have paid a thousand dollars to the bank for not having enough money in this year in one checking account and you say this is justified you don't know what justified is yeah they're like overdraft fees are expensive though they're like$35 each time it's a lot that's your take away from this girl you're a literal please never have a child oh no i don't plan on that it's not yeah unless you become more mature at some point no well i like my freedom i like being able to do stuff well you're certainly utilizing the freedom to get yeah i like going places and eating things i know obviously look at both of us yeah we eat okay i don't know how you're I guess you're Cope laughing your way through this You just sound delusional Oh good You've had fees this year Meaning you probably missed the payment Or you were late on a payment At some point this year Because that is a missed payment fee If I've ever seen one Also$605 interest on one of many credit cards We are going to go through My interest is pretty bad Yet you are still spending on it more And bringing up the balance more Making the interest even more No you don't get to have Yeah the interest is pretty bad You're making it bad You are doing this Well what?

34:16I mean yes You can't well me Well what? I've asked them to lower the interest Why would they? They don't owe you that You're not entitled to that They're a business And you're making them money You're being stupid And being taken advantage of And that is your fault Well I think that I don't trust anything you think I understand my spending is bad No you don't You didn't know how much you were You didn't know what you spent on this card And you didn't You refused to accept the$600 you spent going out to eat when one of those purchases was nearly$100. So, f*** you. You don't know anything, but go ahead.

34:48Well, okay, so I didn't know that that was like all-encompassing. I thought it was maybe just my checking account, but I didn't realize it was all of my accounts that I spent that much money on. What were you saying? I don't remember. I don't remember. Blue. The color of my face after this conversation. It's my favorite color. Must be because you love giving them a lot of money They're my lower interest rate though They're my lowest interest rate You know that doesn't even matter Because you're literally above the credit limit on this card Are you kidding me? We're two cards in and we're already talking about that F*** me dude Yeah The last card was disastrous It doesn't matter you're over the f*** You're under the limit in You're right You wouldn't have any sense of understanding about that you're okay with being under your limit minimum limit in a debit account why would you care about being over a credit limit on a credit card why would you I don't even know you are in such a different world and reality than the rest of us I don't know how to make this seem like it matters you don't even realize what's happening me blue yeah$1 ,009 $1 ,023 fun fact credit limit thousand that means you're over yeah that was probably just like the interest though that put it over whatever puts it over doesn't matter if you put it at the max and then you don't make a payment and then the interest hits it goes over okay listen if you put it hey listen if you put it towards the max and you make your minimum fee payment it's never going to go over because your interest is$9.41 three cents but but if you're not spending money your minimum fee payment of$20 is going to make it go down even if slow even if only ten dollars so no that's not exactly what i put it over you spent three hundred five dollars three hundred five dollars you pushed it to the actual huh huh what you don't know what you spent on this card either do you don't know what you spent anywhere on anything girl this was literally a couple weeks ago yeah no i don't know anything about your life i really don't like keep track of So I don't really Oh my This world Yeah I'm just so used to like This world The people Sliding my card No offense But this is just like I just slide my card And I'm like I know how Credit cards work Okay I just like Don't think about it Like I just I know Like I know That I'm gonna have the payment So I just Spend it But sometimes you don't have money In your checking account And then the payments are due Yeah As in, you had a late fee on that last credit card.

37:29Did I? Within the year. Oh, okay. Probably. No, you don't even care. No, I mean, like, I do care. I do care. I mean, I'd rather not pay a fee. But if it happened, it happened. I mean. What do I do with that? I mean, what am I supposed to do? If it happened, it happened. I can't change it. I mean, I can change it technically in the future. but I can't go back and change it. That's not how that works. Unless I call them and ask. Oh, shut the fuck up. I didn't do that. I don't even know, man. Okay, but what was it on? Shut the fuck up. Kendall, McDonald's, went inside, got a drink from Circle K, Amazon, books a million.

38:14Also then some like PetSmart stuff and Walgreens stuff. Yeah. And then some gas as well. Yeah, so some necessities. Some. Some. Well, Walgreens you don't really know. Did you get$48 of medications? Yes, actually, yeah. That was, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so Walgreens was actually like f***ing me over because they were not charging my insurance. They were charging my GoodRx, and it was more expensive, and I didn't know until... Why didn't you give me your insurance? No, they had my insurance. They just weren't filing under it. And then I was like, okay, well, thanks. Y 'all have costed me a lot of money.

38:44Half the purchases on there were bulls***, so I have no sympathy. Well, I'm just... You were still choosing to spend all the extra money that was more than that. Yeah. I throw words from this conversation We're not even 40 minutes in It's gonna be a long one Quick silver one I swear if you're over the limit on this one I think I think I might be No I'm not sure what my limit is No you're not I don't know what my limit is Oh that's dangerous again It's just one of those things where look I know but I have three of them So I'm like look yeah just look once look I just try to avoid it because it's not working How but don't you get more stress the fact that you owe more money and extra fees and more interest What do you mean that would stress me out more?

39:37Yeah, I mean yeah, that is a lot of stress You gotta balance a$3 ,167.50 on here with a minimum monthly payment of$119.00. Kill me now sake oh fees this month this month fees 45 dollars of purchases great 39 dollars of fees and 85 cents of interest in fees i don't know what that's from you don't know anything about your own finances you don't so you trust me i'm not even gonna ask you i don't think you know what you spend you didn't know fees you don't know anything listen i just like everyone else i'm gonna put you through our budgeting class our debt class and our investing class so you can actually learn the skills and all these things i don't think you're gonna even go through them based on this conversation y 'all can go through them tens of thousands of people have changed their life you can it's all bundled together 25 off hey hey i am pitching right now come on don't interrupt the pitch what i will go through them please do because you actually get them because okay because i actually did the dave ramsey thing i was doing like i did the snowball and it didn't really work but hold on hold on i'm going to interrupt you this might be a very interrupt you episode i apologize if it is but i also don't really give a fuck so never mind i don't but the thing is what do you mean it didn't really work because that's not how that works it didn't really work the way you're going about it probably yeah what do you mean it didn't really work what's didn't really work do you even know what snowball is what didn't work let it tell me yeah so i would like pay them off and pay what off Some of the stuff I like paid off and kept paid off No no no no no no What is snowball?

41:15Oh so where you take like your Lowest balance And you pay that off and then whatever your minimum Monthly and then you add that to like the next And then you like snowball that And I know that So what went wrong what didn't work I spent I just like I spent That isn't of the fault of The snowball Or avalanche or whatever method for me no it didn't work for you because you're a child and you have no discipline you don't have a budget because you can't stick to anything to save your life what does the future hold for business ask nine experts and you'll get 10 different answers is inflation going up or down will rates keep getting cut and someone just create a business crystal ball so i know what's going on until then over 40 000 business owners have future-proofed their business with the sponsor of today's video net suite by oracle the number one cloud erp bringing accounting financial management, inventory, HR, all into one fluid platform.

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43:18What else would you feel? This is what's being presented to me. Yeah. I also just have like... Oh, I'll dodge that one. Okay, that just flew over her head. Great. She'll laugh about it too. I just feel like sometimes it's necessary spending to have... You know, it's just like little sweet treats and girls. And sweet treats are not necessary spending, girl. Stop with the sweet treat nonsense. Stop with that. Stop with that. Stop. You don't need it. Amazon, Amazon and Stan McKen. McKen, chicken. I don't know. It was a restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need that. I don't think you know what the word need means.

43:56Need is you need it. You need it. It is critical. You need housing. You need utilities. Sustenance. It's food. It is food, but you did not need it. You could have gone to the groceries. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, yes, but it's hard to find time to go grocery shopping when I'm working so much. You have no job! Now I'm not working. This isn't the time you're not working! Yeah, you might be right. But I'm saying this is like the habit. What is he doing all day, Mr. Guy, that is depending on you? Huh? School. He's doing school. How much school? He's got his certificates How many hours a damn day? Oh I don't know I don't know I was working So I'm sure How many hours a day were you working?

44:44Well it depends if I worked one job Oh average dude come on Your median day Oh but like 40 hours a week 40 hours a week total? For one job no Okay everything how many hours were you working? Okay you could have gone a grocery store You may have done a curbside pickup for even a little bit more money even if you had to do that. It is still beyond more when it comes to savings of meal prepping. Okay? Not that I would even want you to do that because you can go in and out. You know where things are in the store. Just run the children over and push over the old ladies in the wheelchairs. It doesn't matter.

45:19Just get your s*** and go. Okay? Mississippi has really high grocery tax. We're the highest in the nation. Yeah. We're the highest in the nation. Swear. we're like 7 % or something on groceries yeah we're the highest in the nation it's ridiculous yet it's a failed state in every other way it really is it's a way of thinking to tax yeah you would think with how many people are like insecure about food they would actually do something to like help but they don't care groceries are subject to the full state tax of 7 % that's crazy where I come from Michigan and here in Texas groceries are in tax yeah that'd be nice because my actually I used to live in a different state and my grocery bill almost tripled when I moved back home.

46:02Yeah, 7 % tax on groceries. That's actually pretty crazy. So it sometimes, honestly, is cheaper to just go somewhere else. I am being for real honest. No, no, no, because when they buy their produce, they're getting taxed too. That stuff, it's still being passed on to you. And then you've got the wages you're paying for of all the people that are cooking the food and cleaning the restaurants. And you get a little bit of that at the grocery store as well, of course. But no, it is not. You cannot mathematically justify it. A little 7 % bump in your grocery prices are not. not gonna be i also buy like i'm like an organic i buy like i don't give a stuff so it's always more expensive don't yeah well also i sold it i like to have like my vegan cheese and girl you spent a hundred dollars on groceries you're not going and getting groceries so what are you talking about long time huh groceries last long because you eat out for every meal yeah you i swear everything you're saying is the stupidest thing i've ever heard don't you don't have to go the expensive route yeah you don't have to it's fine it's fine just don't like if you want relatively healthy just don't go over the overly processed stuff so he's making is he done with school he doesn't matter anyway listen if he wants a course cruise because i know he's going into like cyber stuff if he wants a certification through course careers we can gift that okay as you guys because you already landed a job and he wants to get another the job so of course crews are a great partner and i have my degree get better pay i have my associate's degree so okay yeah so um if he wants it even though he's too much of a person to be in this room uh he can have it okay thank you you're welcome oh good save your one okay that one's not too bad i haven't looked yet i don't know but i think that i think compared to what the limit is it's bad yeah i mean you're you're 75 to the max yeah yo 714 and 79 cents it's still but you're still purchasing you're still purchasing that's the thing that's all that matters man spending early you think that's cute thank you that's disgusting shut up but honestly just really don't know what i spend what an embarrassment stop stop Look at yourself stop No that's not funny Spinning girly isn't cute Shut the f*** up you're destroying your life And that is not cute That is not a good trait Shut the f*** up I mean maybe not like cute But it's reality No s*** that's why I'm f***ing reading the numbers You dumb piece of s*** Of course it's reality You're f***ing pissing me off F*** you That's so stupid That pisses me off so much.

48:48And I'm probably being a dick right now, but I don't really care. I don't care. That's just so dumb. That is so dumb. Shut up. Well, let's see what I actually spent it on before we go in. We've seen our spending so far. It doesn't even matter. You've already overspent on stupid bull. An$18.56 of interest. That's cute. It's a good personality trait. Does your boyfriend even know this about you? Does he know your debt situation? I think that he does to an extent. I don't really tell him that much about it. What do you think he knows, dude? For f*** sake? I don't think he really knows what my credit cards are at.

49:33And we can't inform him. Great. No. Well, I also just like, it's embarrassing. I don't want to say it. It's in at bull**** from Apple or subscriptions. Who knows? What is that? One might be storage for iPhone or iCloud Who knows but you got two Apple things I don't know what that is Pull up your subscriptions on your iPhone For f***ing sake I don't know what that would be She's gonna have like a grinder subscription or something I can't believe you lost$25 ,000 You took out Wait why isn't it coming up No$10 ,000 that could have been$25 ,000 If you It's not coming up Oh my gosh It's crazy It's crazy because like doubles every 7 years It would have been about$25 ,000 I'll show you dude For fuck's sake I was typing it in You don't know how to navigate your phone I was typing it in but it wasn't coming up I don't ever go there I don't ever look at my subscriptions You pay for Apple Fitness Plus I got my watch You sure do That's it I work out in my house I work out too I don't pay No but I use the videos like the guided videos and like meditate and stuff okay okay stop oh okay see yeah I only have one I don't know what those are for then I really don't know that means likely in-app purchases of some kind okay possibly but I use the fitness plus I always think there's like a moment of silence for me to just think and then you say something and your voice irritates me so much this is a weird job that's just your opinion I'm gonna die this is the weirdest job I'm just going to let you guys listen to a little secret of life here because I just want to vent for a moment as before we continue because I'm dying this is the job and it is an absolutely amazing job that I get to show up and I get to do this and I love almost every aspect of the job I really do it's so cool but when I just sit here and I talk to someone like this I hate this right now I really don't like this because you are not reasonable you are not mature enough to have this conversation and you came on applying from the audience position so there would be some reasons you came on because your debt is good and you seemed like you were able to talk meaning we allowed you to come on the show and now I'm sitting here it's 45 minutes my throat hurts and I hate this conversation it doesn't have to be You are just so fucking, I just don't get it It's you You are just so immature and incapable Of just existing in reality With the rest of us And this is miserable Again, opinion I don't think I'm that immature I don't feel like I'm that immature I just I know what I'm doing when I do it I just do it Anyway, you know what I mean?

52:34It's not Listen Like, okay. Listen. Okay. If they didn't put so much work into this episode, and if we didn't spend thousands of dollars to produce every episode, get people where they need to be and all this stuff, I would kick you out right now. I, you piss me off. You do not exist in reality. There is no way. I refuse to believe that people are like you. I refuse to believe it. listen you're just so delusional but you're just not willing to listen then you're just so not arrogant i don't know the word but things just deflect off you you're just taking this like a reasonable adult it could be different i mean i'm digesting and i know people will find it interesting what they don't know though is that it's literally just two people who come in a room who have not met each other sit down and start talking about their money and give their damn opinions.

53:31This doesn't have to be this way. You are killing me. Doesn't matter. I'm just venting. I'm angry. I'm angry. I'm angry. I'm angry and I'm going to keep going. This is why people take up a addiction. Well, that's a little far. What is? Okay, the Delta, that's my tire. What is this? Oh, wait, affirm. Yeah. Okay. Well, no shock with your spending. You have a firm. Wait, why'd you have Delta? Those are my tires. Oh, not plain. No, those are my Delta tires. I had to buy tires. Taking that moment to vent. They were literally bald. They were just smooth when I got them. Not as bald as your boyfriend, but they'll never see proof of that.

54:24Got him. Well.

54:31um yeah affirm i'm like an affirm can you just put up like an ai generated picture of a bald man and make them think for like five seconds that that's what he looks like back then that'd be funny and you can leave this part in as well um yeah i'm just like i really enjoy affirming things enjoy wait was it a feeling oh please don't let's not you don't have to you did not just say those words enjoy what do you mean enjoy i understand if you're like because it's like even if you said i have to affirm like i i would have pushed back but i enjoy affirming yeah enjoy like it's a feeling what are you saying instant gratification of like okay i may not have the money but i know i get paid two weeks so i can make the payment hey they're they're like my little besties you're a little bestie yeah no you're their bestie because you have a 27.37 % interest rate.

55:28You're making them money. You are why I think they went public. Right. And the why I'm sure they're doing pretty. Okay. Cause people like you, that's not a firm though. That's my Amazon. That's my Amazon card. It's my Amazon credit card. That's just my firm. Right. I actually don't know. Now that it all looks like a firm to me. It might be. It's a firm. I have it. It's a firm. Oh yeah. Oh, that's my Apple watch. yeah what i bought that as a graduation gift for me for myself graduate august wait graduate with your associates yeah in what um oh oh what's wrong with the county um just because you're stupid with numbers yeah right so but yeah no me and um me amazon we go way back where i yeah most of us do but you can do it in a controlled way.

56:22I Amazon a lot of things. I'm pretty sure I'm just bankrolling Jeff Bezos' life. You're a little comedian, aren't you? You're a funny little girl. You think this is cutesy. I hope your boyfriend watches this back and feels disgusted. That was mean. That was mean, but I just, like, usually I'm a bit more roasty and cunty, but I just feel mean right now because I don't enjoy your presence. I'm just a little baby. I have no money. I just have blocks. You really are trying to be funny. No, I just really like that meme. That's funny. That's the meme.

56:59Oh, man. Yee. Guys. I can't pay you. I just have a box. Guys, stop leaving you shut the fuck up. Oh, God. Just keep going. Oh, are you? My brain is like swimming in liquid right now. Just trying to like, what do I even? do here to get out of this or something can i leave this conversation i keep on your tires 35.97 interest on them really i didn't know that you don't know anything because you don't look at anything why would you know anything you think you would know anything you don't know anything until you look at things you don't know what you're talking about i didn't i thought it was supposed to be interest free like i really did think it was supposed to be interest free honestly i thought it was you probably extended the term or something because sometimes they'll do interest for like three months but if you say no i want to do this for a year it's like possibly but they were so expensive tires are stupid expensive and if you had emergency yeah well well what huh well what i mean yes but stop whaling at me are you creating videos as a full-time creator it's a grind between scripting editing and oh all those endless little tweaks.

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1:00:1359 cents plus four dollars and 25 cents plus 18 dollars and 52 cents okay affirm affirm 200 207 dollars i just thought i heard a noise coming from your side of the table and i got very upset but this is this is where i am right now okay but i did return something from that because I felt bad for getting it. What? I bought a personal wallet, but then I said, I don't need the wallet. Was it the sack? Yeah. Great. The 0 % bullshit. So we saved$4.25. No, no. I'm still paying that. It was more. Yeah. So I returned like the thing I didn't want. It didn't fit my phone, so I just returned it. But I thought that was responsible.

1:00:55Oh, she's still talking. I would have just kept it. Oh, my gosh. I would have just kept it and just like Oh well We usually upload like an F around video In our membership section For Hammer Elites and Hammer Pros And we know, they know that we got A very sharp sword that was delivered It's Jake's little play sword I want to take that right now And sacrifice myself In front of everyone Yes You're purchasing on this too dude Is there an account you haven't purchased on? Sirk Are you purchasing on everything I'm pretty sure I'm purchasing on everything Oh my f*** when you have some negative money Negative money Okay but I did actually like freeze my Amazon card What do you mean freeze?

1:01:41You can like turn it on You need to close your damn accounts Because you'll turn that f***ing s*** back on I don't give a f*** You're not willing to do anything are you? No like I want to No you don't But I froze it so like I can't use it You don't want to I do I don't want to like be in this anymore You buy like 1 % No like 25 at least She's You think this is a joke No okay The 25 was a joke Well I mean sometimes that's all you have What you gotta do to get by No what you gotta do to get by is Bolt down make a plan Figure out what it takes to get to a goal And then start working on those That's what it takes I don't know what you're talking about dude Neither do you You just try to justify every stupid little thing I'm not really even sure what I spent on that And it's only the store card That's interesting I haven't heard her say that about anything else It's only the store card So we can't even spend it like outside of Amazon Thank you Yeah It's probably a lot worse You can spend this at Whole Foods Oh really?

1:02:47No actually don't listen to me Well I don't live There's no Whole Foods in Mississippi You're right probably just a dollar store okay there's so many dollar stores i'm kidding mississippi is probably so good it's not so great don't move there i have no intention to visit 446.88 okay that's not bad oh no i think it's like a 500 limit right i'm gonna i i mean it's bad if you look at it like that like with everything stacked up with it but just on its own it's not too bad you mean it's all bad and you're spending and there's interest. It's all bad. You're never going to get out of debt. You're never going to get out of debt.

1:03:28You're never going to have a retirement. You're never going to have anything. If your logic when looking at this, well, unemployed and negative money in your checking account is it's not that bad. You're done. You're done. No, no, no. Listen, listen. You are done. You have no hope. I feel hopeful. That hope is in delusion. you have no hope i think it is i really do i think that there i think you can always get out of a situation i think there's a light at the end of the tunnel only if you drive dude you're not you're not doing anything you're just sitting there and sometimes going backwards or trying to figure out a shortcut but guess what dig that way out of the tunnel you're gonna fall off the cliff okay like this is what you've done when you got yourself into that that consolidation bull yeah yeah that was like now looking back that was probably not like the best idea but um i didn't really know i was gonna be laid off which is also the longest hour of my life this is the longest an episode's gone in

1:04:41gosh months

1:04:47I've never felt a length of an episode like I'm feeling this right now that's not funny it's not cute and it's not a good thing it's disgusting shocker your purchase was on Amazon let me pull up your Amazon app dude are we even halfway through this? I don't really pull up your Amazon Oh, no, there's not, like, much. Pull up your f***ing Amazon. Good death, lady. Good, you're getting wall sense. Oh, we got more wall sense because we definitely can't breathe. She has a little car seat cushion thing. Yeah, it was like - Great, thank goodness. I take a lot of road trips. Okay, stop. You probably can't afford it.

1:05:23Dude, you need to be working, you little f***ing. You got shoes. You probably never had any of those. What is this? What is this, a wrist cushion for the keyboard? That's okay. I don't think you need necessarily that. We got the same desk pad that I purchased for all my employees It's nice You did not need a new keyboard You did not I actually bought two I bought one on Amazon One in person Why do you need two? I didn't like that one Did you return it? You haven't returned it dude I don't know is it still in return window? I don't know You should know because you should look I don't know I was just like I'm not a physically violent man but I'm about to be.

1:06:04Yeah, but I figured I would use one for work and just one. Oh, you got a good wireless charger for our wireless charger station. Guys, we got Beats Pro. Studio Pros. Thank goodness, guys. By the way, we're unemployed and I have negative money. A beach bag and then a Wade blanket. None of that was necessary for your life. Okay, Wade blanket. You did not need that to survive. You did not need that. Oh, well. Are you welling me again, lady? The Wade blanket helps me sleep. I need a good night sleep Have your fucking boyfriend lay on you He's too hot It's too hot at night And the weighted blanket is like knitted So it breathes so it feels good Okay well we each have a weighted blanket We each have a weighted blanket I don't know I don't know how you operate in society You don't shut up I bought a weighted blanket for myself Have you ever heard silence and not been able to And have been able to exist in it For a moment No.

1:07:03I don't like silence. I can tell. I can tell. But we each have our own weighted blanket. We both like it. I'm so excited for you guys. I've never been more thrilled for a couple in my life. No, it's good. I promise. It's worth it. You guys are the couple to look up to. You both have weighted blankets. Example for the rest of us. Maybe it'll help your stress if you get better sleep, too. So you might get one. I get okay sleep unless my dog's farting in the middle of the night, which these last two nights I've been farting every five minutes. It's because he has a little upset stomach. And that is stinky.

1:07:34And that's harder to sleep through. That's kind of gross. Yes, it's farts. Yeah. It's not the best. My dog's farts stink too. You have dogs? I have one dog. No. And two cats. No. Yeah. That's so unfair. That's what the PetSmart was. What do you think I was buying? That's so unfair to them. What do you mean? You can't afford pet insurance. Do you have pet insurance? Yeah. How? You can't afford it. It's like$10. For the dog? For all three. It's bundled with my car insurance Yeah Okay I'm not Yeah because when I was When I first got my dog She like broke her leg And I didn't have insurance Broke her How'd she break her leg?

1:08:12She was I had like I lived in a condo that had stairs And I had like a baby gate And she was still a puppy And she tried to jump over the baby gate Okay And she broke her leg And it was really sad Okay Okay that is sad Yeah But she did it twice Okay So I had to Okay Okay alright Okay So after that I got the insurance.

1:08:33Responsible. I don't know what I'm looking at here. PayPal paying for. It's just like a firm but PayPal style. So it's just those little like mini loan things. Usually interest free.

1:08:53Usually.

1:09:04Lindsay Jake, this is... I don't know with this one. I think she's...

1:09:15The worst. The worst human being I've ever met in my life. If you aren't... Shut the fuck up. I'm talking to them, not you. You're not a part of this conversation. You are a creature. No I need to wait from you Oh I have a Belvita in my bag If you want one It's good it's blueberry I brought snacks to come here I will say that I did bring snacks Did you buy them at gas stations? No I bought them actually from the grocery store And I brought them with me from the house Oh so your entire$100 purchases at the grocery store are snacks? Probably And breakfast food I'm a breakfast girl Hey Hey guess what guess what you're a little person what is this what am I even looking at here let me see I might be able to bring it up on PayPal loan agreements to something oh PayPal yeah it's a PayPal paying for so it's like a firm but PayPal 0 % interest on that okay yeah 0 % interest on that okay so you did 2 here you did 2 yeah that's what they are Old Navy and loyalty brand market What loyalty brand marketing What are you marketing No that's underwear It's just It's just stuff Necessity You didn't have any underwear No I did But like you can't You have to like buy new ones You needed to do it when you had negative money In your checking account and no income Couldn't wait a month and you couldn't do it the month previous It had to be right now Well I guess that doesn't make any sense But Interesting Are you joining us in reality by chance But Old Navy was work clothes that I need For my new job Okay What do you need to wear to sell guns To terrorists Well no it's like an office job So I have to go to the office and it's like Office sheet or whatever It's a power suit And I worked from home previously So I didn't have work clothes so I needed them I don't want to hear your voice and I have already I've concluded I've concluded okay this is we're in quiet time right now okay quiet time$268.07 is out on this $67.02 paid three more times and then you're done that's different oh wait no it's less now So that's fine I thought it was more What's next one PayPal No it's the same one It's still a different loan right Oh I mean like technically There's two ones But in total it's 214 215 It's two separate ones like 4160 Or something like that Right Yes that's what I was going through Oh my I thought you wrote down the wrong number.

1:12:25Oh, my gosh. I could never have a beer with you. Oh, wait. No, I actually like beer. Me either. I don't. No, I do like beer. Oh. No, I do. Are you drunk right now? I wish. No, I could not imagine what that's like. PayPal. One, two. Okay, yo. Gosh, I'm sorry for being mean to you. Well, actually, kind of. Not really. I don't really feel sorry. I don't feel like you're being that mean. I just I feel I hate the feeling of feeling a dislike towards someone So you're saying you dislike me Yes and I hate that feeling I rarely feel that towards a guest You can't just tell people you dislike them Yes I can say whatever the fuck you want Shut the fuck up what do you mean You're in my studio you're in my life you're sitting across from me We're in a world where people talk absolutely I can say that You can say it too I don't give a fuck Okay what do you mean you can't say that What are you talking about You can tell people you don't like them all the time But I usually don't like people.

1:13:21It is rare for me to actually legitimately not like someone. Every time I blow up, I make the finances known clear to them. And it is rare. It is rare. Maybe once a month that I legitimately do not like someone. And I feel bad that I do not like you because this sucks. Wait, are you telling me I'm rare? Yes. And that's not cutesy. So shut the f*** up. Oh. I don't know if I want to have you in the post show I don't think I'm going to let you be I don't want to talk to you anymore I feel that You feel it, you understand? I get it Let's just see I mean self there's a thousand dollars $26 minimum fee payment You're spending like crazy in here 5-0, 5-0, shut the f*** up for a second I'm just going to get a perception of what the f*** is left here Because this is insane Jasmine Cuisine, Pop Shelf Raising Cane's Botanical Garden, Korean Barbecue, Space Center, Gigaparts, Mellow Marshmallow, Little Caesar.

1:14:22Shut the f*** off. Shut the f*** off. I don't care. I am observing this thing here. What you're going through. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's at 26.49 % interest. Great. Wonderful. Awesome. F*** that. And then we have upgrade as well. Oh, good! 7 ,996. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to f*** that with a minimum monthly payment of$320 ,000. That's the consolidation. Shut the f*** up. Oh, good. Thank goodness. I don't need an explanation for all this. I'm just trying to get a perception of where you're at. Okay. Okay. Minimum monthly payment on student loans. We have student loans here. What does the current amount do?

1:14:58Well,$729 on that one. I'll send you balance$1 ,000 there. $11 and then, uh, so your minimum monthly payment for this$3 ,000 one,$3 ,000 $11,$3 ,400 and that's it. $14 a month,$5 ,400 $21 a month,$6 ,200 $223 ,000 to$20 a month. $19 ,000! That's$20 ,000 to$75 a month. You owe money to your dad? $15 ,000? Someone slipped this bullsh** in! What do you owe to your damn dad? What do you owe to your damn dad? What do you owe to your damn dad? That's the first consolidation loan. Your first consolidation loan was your dad? Yeah. Good. This world! Guys we're doomed We're doomed this is it This is who our neighbor is Oh You're living next to people like this And they're not all in Mississippi No but now that I'm older I'm like I feel bad that I did that When did you do this 20 Yeah so I want to like You owe him 15 ,000 hours since 20 So for a decade you've owed him this What do you mean I thought you said you took it on your 401k to pay off debt When you were 20 what are you talking about No I did some of that as well like I did both

1:16:18okay okay no like i want to pay him back because i feel bad i just don't want to hear your voice i really don't i'm so sorry i'm so sorry oh i hate this feeling i'm so conflicted in so many ways one i could make this episode last two hours going through all this stuff two i want to get as far away from you as possible three i hate feeling like legitimately like i don't like someone not just you know like ha ha ha little jokes little jabs i hate this i hate this feeling this is i'm so conflicted this episode is confliction galore do you need a way to i need you to shut the fuck up wait a blanket might help so you're saying you have negative money you're checking account right now because guess what you had 723 dollars in there you're saying is negative now yeah well okay so if you look at my statement if you look at my statement it ends like on a weird time frame so like it's been quite a minute what like it ends in like early november or something or october the end of october like october 24 like it's weird okay sure october 24 so like it's been almost like it's been a few weeks it's been like two weeks okay calm down uh it says texas word has some f***ing sponge and bulls*** and um diamond art and we'll just sell you f***ing amazon and what is that McDonald's and playstation and they're firm and i'm not even gonna go through all this it doesn't f***ing matter damn absolutely i'm not going through the rest of this it's all bulls*** it's all it's all done i hope none of that went into the fish tank this but you know listen stop for a second i'm trying to i'm trying to process.

1:17:59This is a hopeless conversation. Not for you. No, for you. I want to make it sound better than it is because right now I'm only doom and gloom right now. How do I try to make this sound better? I'm ending the conversation early and I'm kicking you off. I don't want to sit in front of you in the post show. I don't. You can stay in the green room for a bit and Lindsay and you can talk afterwards. You're a horrendous existence in front of me right now. I don't think you're a bad person, but the fact that you think it's all cutesy annoys me. You're not taking this seriously. You're not taking your life serious.

1:18:34You have no actual desire to get out of debt. You don't care. You're trying to look funny. You're being dumb. You don't understand things. You don't know what a number is. I don't want to talk to you. And I do not have hope for a single second that you are going to get out of debt. You might do a consolidation borrowing from dad sucking. I don't know. but I don't think you are going to get out of debt by changing behavior because you've never changed behavior once in your life, even though you have tried multiple times by not trying. Guess what? Guys, why did Dave Ramsey's method not work? Why did it not work?

1:19:07Because I enjoyed spending. That's not his method. I could give you my method. I can connect you with the classes. I still will with hope that you might change your life. But guess what? Without actually changing your behavior, without deciding that you are going to put your future over your spending, you are not going to accomplish anything ever and i am done with it because you're taking this conversation like a joke and that is an embarrassment for my existence right now and i'm pissed off in you with you and i am done you can turn off her microphone i don't want to see it hear a single word from her guys we're going to the post show she won't be there but maybe we'll look through the rest of the documents without her because what a joke Hammer Financial Score, shut the f*** up.

1:19:51Ooh, I'm in rage mode. Caleb, there's one more thing. What? She needs to pay her mom back$1 ,000 to pay her in 18 months. Oh, for f***'s sake. F***, is it worth getting her thoughts on this? I'm thinking about bringing her back in. Is she going to be the first person to get double kicked off? Okay. Why do you owe$1 ,000 to your mom and you haven't made a payment in 18 months? That's stupid. That enrages me. To watch the Financial Audit post show, click the join button below.

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