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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary: "Loser Thinks He’s Better Than You"
Podcast Overview
- Title: Financial Audit
- Host: Caleb Hammer
- Focus: Personal finance, budgeting, and debt management
- Episode Title: "Loser Thinks He’s Better Than You"
- Episode Release Date: February 2025
Episode Description In this episode, host Caleb Hammer conducts a financial audit with a guest named Adam, a 25-year-old inventory supervisor from Round Rock, Texas. The conversation revolves around Adam's financial habits, particularly his spending on fast food, budgeting challenges, and future financial goals.
Key Themes and Discussions
Guest Introduction
- Name: Adam
- Age: 25
- Occupation: Inventory Supervisor at a car dealership
- Income: Approximately $2,200 per month
Financial Situation
- Adam lives in Round Rock, Texas, and pays $340 in rent due to shared living arrangements.
- He struggles with a significant portion of his income (around 40%) going towards fast food expenses, roughly $794 monthly.
- The audit reveals that Adam has a checking account balance that is often negative due to overspending.
Spending Habits
- Fast Food: Adam frequently opts for fast food due to lack of time and cooking skills, which is a major contributor to his financial strain.
- Budgeting Challenges: Despite attending classes, Adam expresses difficulty in meal prepping and budgeting effectively. His excuse is a busy schedule with work and school.
- Miscellaneous Expenses: Adam's spending includes various subscriptions and impulse purchases that contribute to his financial instability.
Financial Advice and Recommendations
- Simplified Budgeting: Caleb emphasizes the importance of using a simple budgeting app that automates tracking expenses and offers meal prep resources.
- Debt Management:
- Adam has accumulated student loans and personal loans, and he is advised to prioritize paying off high-interest debts before accumulating more, particularly from fast food expenses.
- Recommendations are made to cut unnecessary spending, particularly on food, to improve his financial situation.
- Future Goals: Adam expresses a desire to move away from Texas and to buy a new car, which Caleb suggests should be postponed until he stabilizes his finances.
Reality Check
- Caleb challenges Adam's defensive attitudes towards his financial choices, pushing him to acknowledge personal responsibility in his budgeting failures.
- The discussion emphasizes that despite facing common struggles, Adam’s excuses do not justify his financial mismanagement.
Conclusion
- At the conclusion of the audit, Caleb assigns Adam a Hammer Financial Score of 1.5 out of 10, indicating significant room for improvement in budgeting, debt management, and financial planning.
- Emphasis is placed on utilizing available resources, such as financial education programs and budgeting apps, to improve his financial literacy and situation.
Key Takeaways
- Meal Preparation: Learning to cook and meal prep can save a significant amount of money compared to fast food.
- Budgeting Tools: Utilizing simple and automated budgeting applications can assist in managing expenses effectively.
- Debt Awareness: Understanding the difference between good and bad debt is crucial for long-term financial health.
- Personal Responsibility: Acknowledging one’s financial choices and their consequences is essential for improvement.
Resources Mentioned
- Budgeting App: Simpler Budget App for managing finances and meal prep.
- Financial Education Programs: Bundle of budgeting, debt, and investing classes available for a discount.
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This episode serves as a candid reminder that financial struggles can stem from both external circumstances and personal choices, highlighting the importance of taking control of one’s finances through education and responsible spending habits.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. 40 % of your income right now can not be going to food. I won't have the time to myself. What do you think cooking is? It's time to yourself. I'm not trying to come home after working 10 hours. So you're just an immature baby because that's what everyone does. I've been overworked for like the last four years. Oh, little guy has a little bit of a job at 25. I don't give a f***. Congratulations. You worked a little hard in your early 20s. No one's ever done that before. Well, I'm going to be in college for three, four years.
0:31You're going to be a negative checking account right now, so I don't give a shit. Download my new Simpler Budget app today and take control of your money once and for all. Hey, my name is Adam. I live in Round Rock, Texas, and I'm 25, and this is the Financial Audit. The Financial Audit. He's here from Round Rock. Thanks for coming in, man. Of course, of course. What do you do for a living? I am an inventory supervisor at a car dealership. Inventory supervisor? Supervisor. So not in sales? No. Okay, you bring in the cars to the dealership? You're making sure they have what they need? Once they get in, I make sure that they get to the right place virtually.
1:08Get them to service. I hate dealerships, man. Me too. Okay, well, why do you work at one? They make money. That's why I'm there. It's stressful, but it's where the money is. It's stressful? Very. Okay, what are you making in this job? Right now, it's a little weird because I'm taking classes, but usually, well, 25 an hour. Oh, so some of your times you end up with classes. Exactly. What classes are you taking? Intro engineering classes, physics too. This is college. This isn't like you're taking like career, like inter-career classes. Okay. So you're in school right now. Yes. Well, how many credit hours are you taking?
1:48I've taken like 80. Now, how many credit hours are you taking? Currently 12 to 15. Okay. So full time. Full time. So 25 an hour is what you're making? It's not bad, but how many hours a week are you working? When I'm in class, it's about 20 to 25 hours a week. You're mostly in class, right? Yes. Minimum 20 hours. I'm usually going up to about 25 hours. When would you not be? Are you talking like winter break and summer break? Yeah. So for winter break, I was working more. Yeah, but that's two weeks, right? No, it's about a month. I'm actually starting classes next week. And I ended January 11th.
2:25So what do we expect to hit your account on a monthly basis? From now on,$500 a week. So$2 ,000 a month or so. A little bit more because, I mean. Oh, what? $2 ,100? I'd say$2 ,200. Oh, okay. $2 ,200. Okay. Now, honestly,$2 ,200 for a full-time college student is actually, I'm happy with this. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. How are we living in Austin, though? Because I know Austin's expensive. of how are we doing school? How are we doing all this? What's going on, my guy? I'm not in Austin because Austin's awful. Okay, well, Round Rock's is a group of Austin. Yes, but I don't have Austin rent.
3:06That's one big thing. I have, I'm paying $340 a month for rent. $340 a month? So just endless roommates? Yes. That's incredible, though. It's great getting that kind of rent in Austin and Round Rock. You're negative in a checking account. If I had$300 of rent, I wouldn't be negative in a checking account. We'll get there. So, okay, go on. Keep going. So, I'm making that much money. I have that rent. Most of the thing that eats my money is probably food right now. Food? Food. I love food. I like being able to actually make my bills paid without going negative and over-trapping. Okay. I like food.
3:48Well, with work and school, having to... I'm working a lot. I'm in school a lot. I don't have much time. And so I always eat out. And that's what builds. I'm so confused. I mean, it's easy. That's what it's there for. Fast food is fast food. I don't have to spend time cooking, which I don't know how to do anyway. Don't know how to do. What? Okay. Why don't, what if I gave you, uh, uh, we have a cookbook. Oh, that'll be nice. So no excuses now. Yeah. Cause you get the premium version of our simpler, uh, simpler budget at you get it for life. You get it for life. So you can make your budget in our new budget app.
4:21So you get that shit for life and you get the cookbook. So no more excuses, right? Congratulations. We solved the issue. All you have to do is meal prep a couple times a week. Just take the meals. Make them. They're on a budget healthy meals. You take them a couple times a week. But how am I supposed to do that when I have classes? Okay. How many hours? You're working 20 hours a week? Yeah. How many hours a week are in the classroom? It's a little hard to say. Well, how about let's think a little hard and say it. Okay. Each class is going to be about two hours, and then I'm taking five classes, 15 hours, or 10 hours-ish.
4:57Okay, so so far you're not even at... That doesn't include study time. That's why I said so far. So far you're at 30, which is obviously less than the average person works. Now there is study time, and some of these classes are a little on the harder side. Chemistry wouldn't see me pass it. Not a chance. Cal 3, Physics 2, Engineering Physics Mechanics. Yes. What the fuck is health 3? walk a little quicker sorry oh calculus three uh physics two engineering physics mechanics and government yeah but you got it all over you got the you got the zuck look so you're probably good at this i'm good at the math but it takes a lot of time so how many hours a week give me a real answer what you actually think i don't want you to over exaggerate under exaggerate what do you think on average is done on a weekly basis obviously it goes up close to midterms and finals but just average study and homework?
5:49The big thing is I didn't do it enough. That's not our number. Wow. I didn't do it enough last semester, so I need to go more this semester. Cool. What have you determined? What will be normal? Around three hours a day to take care of all the classes. Including on weekends? Yes. Okay. One thing is on Sundays when I work, I am allowed to do my schoolwork. So that kind of helps me out. Okay, so six days. Yeah. Three hours for six days. And then Saturdays is my do nothing day. Okay. So three hours for five days is what we're calculating. No, six. Sorry. I said Saturday. Saturday is the nothing day.
6:27And then you also are able to do it at work. So we're not including that as extra time. I guess, yeah. So it's just the five days a week. We're including the extra time. Okay. Come on. You're a math guy. Okay. So, oh, no. Obviously not really. Oh, no. 45 hours a week slightly more than the 40 hour work week but i've got no one's ever done that plus kids plus whatever else in life driving yes everyone does that to their job i've got to go to austin from round rock yeah traffic in the morning half the people here can do that well we're moving closer to downtown so yeah and guess what it's fine like i know i know the area you're okay I mean, it's an hour times two each day.
7:13Kind of. What time are you leaving? Seven in the morning and five at night. So right in the middle of rush hour. So every single time I leave, I'm going in rush hour. And with Austin, with downtown Austin. You're not hitting Mopac? I do sometimes. Not that you should, but if that's your big complaint. I'm not really connected that way. The Mopacs, if I have to, I can take a 130. But it's not always the case. I usually have to stick with I-35. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, you have about double the average Austin commute. When people go ahead and also pick up their kids and drop their kids off from school, adds to that.
7:51So I think those people are probably double the average as well. I really don't think you have the room for excuse here, man. You're really just trying to assume because I deal with these things that everyone deals with. Now, you're just split between more activities, but the math is still averaging close to the same. you're above the average person once they're more settled if they don't have kids if they don't have blah blah blah if they do nothing they just go to work and they come home they still find a way to do it especially the ones with more so you're you're immediate trying to excuse that other people get this done other people get this done and you can too yeah 794 spent on fast food that's crazy dude a month for your income situation you spend nearly 40 of your income on fast food when you could be work if you use our thing it's 300 a month you could meal prep you also don't know how to do that i don't know how to yeah follow the cookbook then the recipes reading that's why i'm in math yeah i don't think a recipe with like 10 words is going to be that complicated for you Even still, it's something I haven't done before.
9:04I have to learn how to do it. Not only that, but then I won't have the time to myself. What do you think cooking is? It's time to yourself. It's still work. I'm not trying to come home after working 10 hours, and then I have class to work on, and then I get to come home and do more work. So you're just an immature baby, because that's what everyone does. That is literally just what everyone does. It's just because it's what you have to do. It's a have-to-do situation. Simply put, 40 % of your income right now cannot be going to food. You're spending over double your rent, over double your rent on just going and getting fast food because you're not willing to spend basically about your rent on groceries, which is what it would cost you to follow our plan, dude.
9:44This is pretty simple stuff. This is an immediate dumb out of the gate. Dumb out three urban areas, average commute around 45 minutes. You're not that much higher than that. And you're in an urban area that's in the United I'd say, so shut the f*** up. Everyone deals with this. Take the diaper off. Become a big boy. What, how do you do it again? 25. This is, okay, if you were 18, maybe I would still be giving you the same s***. Come on! And also, there is no excuse for not knowing how to do the basic s*** anymore. You live in the world of GPT. You live in the world of f***ing Google. You live in the world of YouTube.
10:19You live in the world of cooking shows. You live in the world of any piece of information, cookbook, whatever it might be, at the fucking tips of your damn fingers, dude. It is no longer an excuse. It is not a time thing. Put on your favorite video, your favorite podcast, your favorite audio book, whatever the f*** is. Have your alone time. I don't know. Do it naked and then get excited and just whatever you need to do. Rub it all over your body. You can make it interesting, man. I'll try that. It's just hard. I'm also not suggesting every day. Remember how I talked about meal prepping? That is a couple times a week.
10:54That means you do it a couple times a week. The rest of the time, it's actually going to be quicker than you when going through the drive-thru because you literally go, boop, boop, beep, and the food's done. I'll give it a try. But the main reason I do fast food is because it's fast, yes. Not as fast. No. Well, it can be. It depends. No, not as fast as microwaving. Well, if you order ahead, then you can get there and it's ready. Yeah, but you still have to wait in the line. No, not without ordering online. Half the places I go to, you walk in, you get your food, you leave. Okay. meal prepping would be a good idea that will save me some time and money but at the same time i've been overworked for like the last four years and yes no that's that's now i used to be in charge of service well all i give a now is because all we're doing is adjusting this for the future right so i don't give a last congratulations you worked a little hard in your early 20s no has ever done that before it's it's difficult going from working that hard and not having a time to i'm still working hard i'm doing you talk like him and look like him but you do not have the work ethic of the zuck i'm also not a lizard person either so i got that going for me are you sure um like are you are you coming with a broccoli haircut and mma fighting in about 10 years from now is that your transformation are you going to come on rogue and all of a sudden you're going to be a workaholic and everything's going to be fixed for the time being i will say i work a lot and i do a lot of stuff and just having a little time to not have to worry about the food like i feel like if we compare the tism count if we take your blood your tism spectrum will be on the same level that's there is full zuckness there is zuck everywhere you have a dump truck like the zuck zuck truck no i do not well see skinny as a pole that's that's a shame i guess you can't have all the good trades.
12:46So what was your big hard little work in time? None of us have ever put in 80 hour work weeks in our early 20s when we're trying to get done. I was in charge of used service. I was taking care of all the vehicles that got traded in. I had to deal with five, six managers at a time, 50 salespeople at a time, dealing with phone calls every day, about 75 to 100. On top of that, there's always something that needs to be done. So there's something that needs to be done at work? Yes, I'm a perfectionist. It's what I do. I do everything right. Guys, something needed to be done. We should probably just quit.
13:20Something needed to be done at work. Next time something needs to be done here, I'm out. That's too hard. It's different when you're doing other people's jobs too. Welcome to every job, man. There's slackers and there's takers and there's winners and there's losers. You're going to experience that forever. I'm not trying to necessarily, well, I am trying to disminish what you're saying a little, but I'm not trying to take it in a way where it's like, oh your feelings are necessarily like your feelings it's not like that i'm just trying to experience you're good you're your excuses for doing your misbehavior is going through what everyone already goes through it's like you're going to be dealing with different variations of this all throughout your life be an engineer at a company there's going to be slackers this is going to you're going to work with a product manager that doesn't give a you're going to have 10 managers with different ideas about whatever you're working on this is what's going to happen And guess what?
14:11Sometimes stuff happens at every company ever. And fast food will always be there on the way home. It'll always be there on the way home. The commute will always be there unless you're one of the rare few these days that works remote. So, little big guy, I'm sorry. You're always going to have to do a bit of work. Major channel announcement. Budgety, budgety, budgety. it's a new year we're all trying to budget we're all trying to make it a little better trying to improve our life a lot of people on the show a lot of people out there that i've heard from they try to start a budget they can't stick to the budget it's because it's all too damn complicated right now you use any of the budgeting apps out there it's crazy it's hard to know what's even going on it's impossible to set up and it's a chaos to manage that's why over this last year I did the thing.
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16:24Download the Simpler Budget app today. A link in the description below. This budgeting app will change your life. I'm a fractionist, like I said, so there's always going to be more work to be done. And I don't like leaving things undone. So I'm going to finish where I started. And that takes more time. It takes more effort. And I don't want to have to come home and do more work. Perfect's the enemy of good. Sometimes you just need to get to the point where things are good. Where you're doing life good. And that's okay. if you're actually able to accomplish everything and that includes health and personal finances that is fine there's nothing wrong with that yeah it's something I need to work on I'm not good at being good okay then sit down with the therapist that our guests sit down with at Sondermind that's one of the resources that I can give okay sit down with them practice them damn skills you get three free sessions they're the same therapist that I use actually any tool we do I use or would use And then use our, again, again, the cookbook, dude, and the simpler budget app.
17:25Use our, we made this essentially for you. Like literally constructed this from scratch for you. I'll give it a try. You better because you get it for free because you're coming on the show. So don't be a dick. I'll still probably eat some fast food at once. Well, I'll try and diet it down. Well, it's not about that. It's about the way you're doing it. Again, you can't afford to spend 40 % of your income right now on fast food. If it was 5%, would I give you a little slap right now? of course, because we're doing a wake-up call and we're trying to get you on the right track. But 40 % is unsustainable.
17:54It's unacceptable and it's unsustainable. There's not going to be much of a conversation to be had. Okay, so we know what came in, of course. Payroll was$2 ,280. It's pretty similar. But you also had a remote deposit in of$3 ,700. What's that? Rent. I pay the rent, so people send me the money for rent. So what income actually came in last month? That much,$2 ,800. The$3 ,700 is paying rent.
18:24How much was spent? How do you mean? Like when people send me the money, it goes directly to our landlord. Okay, what's the total rent? So I can calculate this a little better. $24 ,25. And your portion? $340. Cool. So minus? Sorry,$25 ,25. It went up. It just went up. it just went up 25.95 yeah and your 340 okay cool so now i have the real math the corrected math after after their cut of rent is already taken in account their cut of rent on your 2280 income what do you think you spent in the last month after their rent is taken in account i mean with everything with bills is that a number that's interesting 2800 okay yeah 7600 the fuck are you talking about you don't know anything come on number guy come on also i'm sure there's money for my work in there too and that counts as how much how much i don't i don't how much would be from work for what what are you doing what is on a monthly basis that would equal triple your income well it's not a set amount it's when we send vehicles to other dealerships other vendors.
19:43I pay for it with my personal card. How much is that? I don't know. A usual guy? There is no usual because I can send a BMW and it's going to be a BMW. You need $3 ,000 right there. I can do a Toyota and it's$50. Look back to this last month. What would you think? Honestly, I don't know. Because honestly, our large... Well, okay. So we do have a decent transportation. If you tell me what the incoming money is on the statements then I can say what dealership it is or where it was. Because there's too many to keep track of sometimes. And most of them will say in the title, whether it be BMW, we have a tire shop, we have Round Rock Toyota.
20:23I tend to pay for a lot of things. But that money comes back, and I don't actually see it on my end of things. I only get the points from my car. Okay. I can tell you exactly how much. $4 ,000. So guess what? You spent$3 ,600. You made$22 ,000. you're still okay with that no come on man no matter what we do with the rent or with the car thing you're still spending dramatically more than you make dramatically how far are you able to sustain that i don't think very far well right now i have the loan that i have to pay off and that's significant towards it the the loan i have the loan guy i have a lot of loans in here i have one huh i have one loan right now well besides okay what are you talking about there's a lot loans in here.
21:10You don't consider credit cards different kind of loans? No. Do you consider them all debt? Yes. As long as you consider it debt, that's okay. I guess we don't have to use the word loan. I guess there's a big, thick, poppy daddy loan in here. It's probably at like$13 ,500 right now. It's okay that you're in school. Nothing wrong with that. You're going for what's good. You're in school at 25, which is a little less than normal. Where are you in school and why at 25? It's hard to say what grade I am technically, but I'm probably a fish or a sophomore. I got accepted into a program with A &M and ACC.
21:49I'm co-enrolled currently going for engineering. Austin Community College. And I'm going for aerospace engineering. I started because I got fired at work. Not technically. Not the current job. Current job. I've been at the same place for a little over four years. I got fired maybe about a year and a half ago. but rehired the same day. It was a weird situation. Yeah, go ahead and explain that for me. So we'll go back to that. So I was used service manager for about six months because my boss had gotten promoted and they promoted me. I was brand new to service. I didn't know anything about servicing cars, but they knew that I was good at my job.
22:26I was a perfectionist. So I started to go into that, did that for six months, and then my boss got demoted because there was another guy that got pulled into his job. So I get bumped down to used service writer. Pay affected? Oh, from what to what? It was$1 ,400 a month salary net at that point as use service writer, or sorry, manager. That's pretty good. $1 ,400 net, well for how many hours? I mean it's salary, so I would usually work 40 to 60. Primarily 50 to 60. You're making 1 ,400 hours a month working 60 hours. Well, yeah, I shouldn't have been working 60 hours, but like I said, I'm a perfectionist.
23:05I like to do everything that's supposed to be done. Well, that's your choice then. Yes, but as the kind of person I am, I'm not going to leave things undone. I'm not saying leave it done, but again, perfection is the enemy. Good. Sometimes if someone's focusing on one task for perfection, they leave five other tasks on the table. Well, the thing is I'll do those five other things. Okay, when you push yourself to your absolute limit, is everything then done correctly in the future? Yes. Okay, you say so. I hope so. Anyway, I was making$100 ,000 a month, roughly, or sorry, a year, roughly, and then I got demoted.
23:38Wait, what? How much? 100. Should have been 100 a year. No, no, no. You said you made 1 ,600 a month. 8 ,000 a month. 16 a week. I'm sorry. Oh, well, there you go. That's completely different. That's incredible. Unless I misheard that, but that's great. 1 ,400 a week. Okay, and then you got moved down to what? To, it was based off hours, so it's hard to say a real number, but it stayed around 1 ,000 to 1 ,400 depending on how many hours you worked. Okay. How many internal hours we were doing at our service shop. Horrible. Poverty. Okay. Yes, exactly. So after a little bit of that, there was a customer that came in, his salesperson wasn't there, and he had a 2013 avalanche that he wanted to get serviced.
24:17And there was a whole slew of things, this piece of s***. And he wanted all these things done and was basically saying, I'm going to do it myself. And he gave us the car back. He's like, oh, wait, now you do it. More or less, he was just not being straight with what he wanted. I told him he came in one day asking for us to work on his car right at the end of the day. It was 4 o 'clock on a Thursday, so I said no. And the guy left, and he wrote a review that long saying he was going to sue me at my dealership because I was so awful. Anyway, he writes that review. I don't think anything of it. I have a vacation scheduled for a few weeks after that.
24:57It comes to the Friday before I'm about to leave. 5.45 on a Friday, I'm about to leave. Boss calls me in. Hey, you're fired. That sucks. Reason given because of that? Yeah. Then you weren't able to defend it? I tried. My boss was even in the room, the guy that got demoted to my position. He stayed after me for like a minute, so obviously he didn't really try. But I got demoted. I tried to fight it, but basically they just wanted to scapegoat. And that was me. They did? Why? What's the consequence for that? Okay. Bad relations. Our company has a habit of making nice to all the customers even when they're wrong because they want their repeat service.
25:35yeah but how does a guy know well okay either way okay that happened so you can't change it and then i came back talked to my director again asked for a quality job because our service department was awful and he gave me that so i was fired rehired and then from that point on i was making 25 an hour and that has where it's been then you decided to go to school because of that Exactly. So real story is, I had a job, and I no longer had a job. All that to say, I'm in this program with ACC and A &M. And you think you're a freshman in terms of hours completed? Because after this semester, hours completed is a little different, but towards the program, yeah, probably freshman.
26:17And then after this semester, I'll be transferring to College Station or UT if I end up going there. Online? In person. Both places would be in person. Not at the same time. What the f*** are you going to do for income in 8 a.m. Two hours away? I can go to any dealership. We have sister locations in Austin. It is something that I want to do long term. Well, if long term you want to come on this show, come on down to Austin, Texas. We'd be happy to have you on. I'll give you a little pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. And it'll be a good time. So go to calebhammer.com slash apply. He'll go through the full onboarding process, meet some great people.
26:51It's a good time. And if you watch your Hammer Financial Score, see where you are assessed in the world of finances. Go to that link in the description below. It's completely free. Where do you think you are on the score of 0 to 10? 0 being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best. Where do you think you are? 6. I'd say a 6. You've lost me. You had a story that was like, oh, I have a person with a brain talking to me. That's great. But I was also falling asleep, and that's okay. Fool, why are you rooting it with a 6? Go ahead. Explain. Explain. Explain. I'm not stupid. You're not stupid, but the score isn't a stupid score.
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28:43You will not regret this. I'm starting to make some better decisions and I know for example like I bought the car I don't think that was a great idea but I mean I don't mind that I did it but I know now sometimes you need to not spend money to what? to be able to go through the drive-thru you spend money? on a car? to go through it? what did you say? I wanted a car so I bought a car really? yeah of course how much was your car? what was the price of the car? $70 ,000 70 ,000? You make$2 ,200 That's what I'm talking about You have tuition right? Does college cost money? College cost money and you make$2 ,200 a month and you got a$70 ,000 car In what world do you think that is something that isn't even close to make sense?
29:29You're not sucking it up, you're sucking it up You're being a dumbass I had no expenses virtually Well guess what you do now because I have credit cards and apparently When did you get this? I got the car in 22, May 22 Were you making$100 ,000 at that point? Yes, I was. Okay, why do we still have it today? I don't have the car. I wrecked it. Why did you just say? So I bought the car. It was$70 ,000. It was a great car. Tease. And then six months later, I wrecked it. And after that, some of the money spilled over because I also put money into the car because why not? Well, because it's a bad choice would be why not.
30:07Yeah, anyway. So the personal loan covers that. And that's kind of where it snowballed. and that's why I am. Let's look at the finances. What do we got going on here? What is half firing, my dude? Because this is a thick-ass balance. This is a chunky little balance. Some of that's work. That kicks off. It doesn't matter. You're pretty moron than you took off. No, no, no, no. Hold on. No, I need to interject. I'm sorry. And I know I've interrupted decently throughout this episode. It's mostly because I don't like your voice. No, I'm kidding. Kind of. Well, a little jab. Whatever. even if it is business expenses with you keeping a balance on here you're accruing interest is the business paying for the interest then it doesn't matter if it's business or not because you are losing money on it why give your company why cost money for your company so the company thing kicks off the reason why I say that is because I'm reimbursed in a week or so and that balance is the money put on it from work goes away in a week or two $32 one month of interest one month of interest$132 okay I will say I've debated doing a loan for this type of stuff because well that's the problem right now how much do I have on that card on there also it did increase so well what's it at then maybe 7 right now $6 ,300 or$7 ,000 well it's at$64 on here so you're saying it's 7 yeah I spent let's go with the$6 ,429 because that's what's on here okay and the minimum payment I mean this is the crazy part because your income is really bad well I don't do monthly minimum payments I pay a lot of the times it'll be from work so that'll count as a payment well either way I'm saying the minimum you would have to pay is$196 I put more than that yes that is reimbursed towards it but the minimum is still$196 that does not change I will always pay more than the minimum I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
32:04It's not an argument. The minimum monthly payment is$196, whether or not you put more towards it. Yes, I understand that. Yeah. You figured it out. But I'll put more towards it. Go on. Oh, do you? Never heard it. Are you sure? Yes. Want to remind me? Okay. So what? What's this loan? So part of that started with the car, the crashed car. I put money into it, of course. It snowballed. All right. So I ended up spending money. So what you're saying? No. So it got paid out. It got totaled. Okay. I bent the frame and I got reimbursed for it. And then I bought another car right after that from the dealership.
32:38What was the crash? Me being stupid with my car and not being able to control it. And I ran into a pole and then off a four foot ditch. How were you? Fine. Good. Yeah. I got lucky. How fast were you going? Not fast. Like maybe 40. Oh, what was the car? Mustang Mach 1. With a Whipple supercharger on it. Nice ass car. Grabber blue. only crabs blue grabber blue it only comes out every four years or so i bought the eclipse that i currently have right now because it was cheap and it was the same car that i had okay 10 years ago that's okay no it's okay but for some reason i struggle to just listen to this i don't know why is it me is it just me if it is that's okay i'm okay with that i hope it's just me okay four $4 ,732 a purchase on here.
33:32You say a lot of it's work-related. Let's find out. I did go on vacation. Did you? When'd you go? Last August. Went to Banff. Banff? Banff, Canada. B-A-N-F-F. It's a mountain range. The Banff mountain range? Yes. Never heard of this in my life. My brother and I go on vacation every year, once a year. That sounds like something smart. Someone who can't afford to live and has negative money in their checking account. And someone that's overworked at all times. Oh, little guy has a little bit of a job at 25. I'm not going three times a year. I'm going once. Oh, no. He's not going to make it. He's not going to make it.
34:08He's making a little sacrifice at 25. Woo-hoo. Big guy. Tough life. Well, I'm going to be in college for three, four years. You're going to be a negative checking account right now, so I don't give a shit. Maybe you need to work harder, actually. I try. It's one week. I'm gone for one week. I'm smarter than anything. I get paid time off. Because you are working hard, but you're putting too much time into things. And you've said that specifically. I think you need to work smarter. Okay, what is it? B-A - N-F-F. N as in Nancy. Double F. In Alberta? In the Burt Zone? Mm-hmm. Great place. Wait, you're talking about August.
34:45Why don't you give a fuck about that? We're talking about this card right now. Dude. But that's carried. I'm sure that some of it's carried. Okay, what is Sunroof Express? Sorry, say it again? Sunroof Express. Oh, that's... I paid for a customer's vehicle. to get their sunroof and you get that paid back yes it should have been reflected on there that same amount should have been put in towards the towards the money i mean maybe depending i mean yes there was money that was put towards it so if you want to count that for that and then we went out to eat at rudy's and we got vending machine vending machine vending machine vending machine pizza so they're still bull on a card that is not being paid off that interest is accruing that you have lost first of all yeah you got your fees but then you have the 283 000 interest just so far then what's four wp is that another thing for real parts that's okay what's on there right now is pulling from a while ago mainly august that number is stated roughly the same i haven't put a whole lot onto that card recently besides of course some stuff some sodas and pieces or whatever but no why are you but no you're going and getting vending machine like every second of your life yeah and rudy's and pizza what do you mean i'm i'm saying besides that there's nothing big on it recently yeah a lot of small purchases add up to big yeah you want i mean yeah that'll it's just like because it's not one big purchase it's okay so if it's broken down into a small ones it's better than putting a thousand dollars on it every month it's just sure i guess i mean i know it's not great but all i know is that it is a card that you are not paying off that is accruing interest hundreds of dollars a year like that's what i care about is the math in the end and you are preventing yourself from paying off but at this point you need to pay it why haven't you then because i can't i i have too much going out right now like 750 going out to eat yes that's so you can't you can't bullshit you can't okay yes you $500 towards my loan.
36:39A few hundred towards this. We'll find out. All I know is$750 going to fast food. That's what I do know. And that's a reality. That is a fact. And I have to pay gas to go to work. Okay, cool. So we're complaining about all our expenses. Then why is$750 going out to eat? Like I said earlier, it's easy. It's what I do. Well, it's obviously not because this isn't working off and you're not paying down debt. So this isn't easy for you. This isn't easy for your life. It's easy for that little moment of time. but it's not making your life easy not in any way whatsoever not your actual life not the longevity of your life it's something i can prove i'm sure but uh by a substantial amount yeah potato potato no it doesn't need to go down that much i'm aware of but in the meantime with school with work with everything it's something that will happen but if i can work on it with meal prepping and just kind of figuring out how to cook myself and that'll be better.
37:35I'm not saying it's going to go away. Yes, that's what I'm saying. It will happen. It will get better. That is one thing I plan to get better on. I have to because, I mean, yes, that's a parasite. $7.50 a month is not going to work long term. So this SoFi thing, is this the personal loan you're talking about? It should be around$13.50 right now. Yeah, I'm seeing$13.852, which is what we're going to put down. Because the other one we did a little less. it's reflected whatever's in the statement okay and then I had to pay for tuition so that showed up that might be on that statement I can't remember no you're not using a self-in personal loan for tuition not the personal loan no that was a credit card but it will be paid off with what the f*** are you talking about guy what do you mean tuition then what are you saying I had to pay tuition last week but you're saying you're not putting on this I put it on the card I'm talking about the self-in personal loan okay what are you talking about you're everywhere why aren't you talking about the thing we're literally talking about in the moment let's do that then so we're on the first yeah let's do that what any normal human would oh yeah dude you don't like don't lose me when it comes to finances you already know i'm a big fan of planning ahead setting budgets getting out of debt and making sure you got a plan for the future let me ask you this you plan for your groceries your bills even your morning coffee So why aren't you planning for your family's future if something unexpected happens to you?
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40:48So maybe that's my fault, but a little more all over the place as well with just the things you're talking about. Now I don't know what's attached to what. What was the personal loan for? It started with the car and excess money from the other cars. Okay. So it's all car. Primarily. And there's some snowball in there, I'm sure. But primarily it's the cars. So your personal car that you have now is on here too. Correct. Okay. It is relatively cheap and it's not quite a car payment, but I know the interest on it is high. and that is one thing I want to pay off that's why I always pay more than the minimum payment well that car is worth about$7 ,000 that's pretty low and I do pay more than the minimum towards the loan so I'm not eating as much interest as I would otherwise we're going to have to math this out in the end because again you're saying you're putting more towards the loan but again even when subtracting what you put towards work even subtracting what you the other people's rent you still spent like$1 ,500 more than came in so this doesn't make sense what you were saying makes no sense this is not adding up dude this is not adding up and you're not a reliable narrator here so again yeah yes you put okay so you put a little more towards a yes and 13 ,852 is what owed on it but it's a 14.68 interest rate again even if i like open up my brokerage and i'm like okay let me invest i'm getting 10 on average with the s &p 500 you're getting obliterated on here.
42:12This is a horrible person. That is something that needs to be paid off. I am paying it off. I've been paying it off. But it's there. I can't just drop$13 ,500 on it and I'll have$13 ,500. No, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that necessarily. But again, would we put$750 towards fast food when that could go towards us? Yeah, that's something I should improve on. I understand what I'm nagging about. Yes, but I'm just saying that money is going to be going out for a while. That's just how it is. And yes, I need to get the fast food money. I'm confused. What do you mean? Go quicker. Why not choose quicker when you obviously have that choice?
42:49Quicker in what aspect? Instead of the money going to McDonald's. I've only said that like five times, so I'm a little confused how you had to ask for me to say it the sixth time. I'm trying to spend less for fast food. Okay, you're not. You're not. You're saying. That's a try. It is a future. I'm trying to get better. No, no, no. You're not trying. You're saying you will try. Sure. I'm trying. I'm asking why you haven't, if you obviously care about this. I made my own food this week. I'll say that much. I'm trying to get better at that. I'm not saying I'm going to not eat out at all because it's a habit, but I am trying to improve on that.
43:25But it's, I mean, I'm not going to just learn how to cook every single thing right away. No meal prep will help, but I still have to learn. And so that means I'll still be eating out some, but not as much. I won't. 700 is crazy. I know that much. Yes. That's what I'm saying. It sounds like all of a sudden you're agreeing with me. Listen, I'm not saying that. You're saying you're trying. You're not. You might try a little. I mean, listen, you started this week. It's Monday. Come on. Like, come on. What are we doing? Or it's Tuesday. I'm trying. I am trying. You will try potentially, and I hope you do.
43:59I am and will continue to try. Okay. I am reducing that number. But a couple of days does not count. You don't go from zero to 100. it's obviously yes but i'm not going over here and shaking your head and giving you an award for i understand but i'm trying that's something what matters is whether or not that's sustained that's all that matters these federal student loans unsubsidized one's up sub unsubsidized and one subsidy so it's just these two the two student loans yes
44:35oh man we're nearing that 7 % interest rate on these better than 15 yes it's better than 15 congratulations you need validation on that too it doesn't mean it's good at this rate you always try to make it sound like it has to be good or something it's like you're obsessed with that a little bit but that doesn't mean it is okay well the debt had to be accrued i have to pay for college that's how it is well maybe i don't know your entire financial situation again i'll bring it out for the seventh time uh maybe you didn't have to take out as much if 750 didn't go to fast food so don't say that i had to well i didn't have the cash to pay for it so i got the loans to pay for it and yes now why did you not have the cash because i have a parasitic draw on my account with the the fast food so don't say you couldn't at the time i could not have yeah based on your actions but not mathematically mathematically automatically sure that's all that matters it's why do i give a shit about the other way i'm not sitting here and saying you were correct for the going out to eat so why would i support that i'm not saying you have to support i'm just saying that's part of the reason why but if you don't acknowledge that that's completely within your control then you're never going to change that for the future at that time i paid for it how i could and i plan to pay off the student loan but one of them does not accrue interest until i'm out of college the other one has a six percent rate.
45:57It's better than the 15. It's 6.755. Better than 15 and it's better than whatever I'm getting on my credit card. So because something's bad but better than something else that's worse, it's okay? I don't get that. I will never understand that. Then why are you talking about it like that? It wasn't necessary. It wasn't necessary. I've got to pay for it somehow and I don't have the cash to pay for it. It didn't have to be this big. Oh my gosh. Do you not understand? Where are we disconnected in this? Where are we disconnected in this? I'm so confused. what you are saying is literal fact but you're almost saying it by saying that it's okay i need you to realize it is not okay yes it is fact it is not okay i'm not saying it's okay then why are you saying it because it's sometimes a necessary evil doesn't mean it's right but it wasn't a necessary evil it wasn't a necessary evil at the time it was no it was not it happened because your behavior it was not necessary so do not i cannot allow you to think that because if you think that your future is going to be because you allow that to be necessary in the future i paid for it i've got to pay it off now that's how it is well yes no congratulations what oh okay obviously i've made bad decisions with my finances but the only thing i can do now is make better decisions and pay off my debt right now that's where i'm stuck well i know i'm not disagreeing with that every time you are pushed back on an opinion you just come out and you just say like a fact that is supposed to make you like sound good like yes congratulations i'm glad you have that mindset but i can't have you have the mindset of past was okay and was a justifiable reason it wasn't it happened period i understand it's not necessarily justifiable but it happened no if i focus on the past and why i made all the bad decisions i'm just gonna make things worse no but if i no no no if i acknowledge what i did and that it happened and how i have to correct you just said if i if i think about the past and why i did what i did that'll be bad no if you If you don't think about why you did being bad, then you'll just do it again.
47:55I'm sorry. I didn't mean it that way. It's the row the boat mantra. PJ Fleck, row the boat. The reason you're rowing the boat to the future, but you're still looking back. And so you're learning from the mistakes in the past so that your future is better. I'm not saying focus on the back and forth. Like, oh, no. Oh, me. Oh, me. But if I get stuck on the fact that I did it and getting mad at myself for the fact that I did it. I'm not suggesting that. I know. I'm not suggesting. I'm trying to correct you, your mindset on it, because you were trying to say it was a justifiable reason. It wasn't. I'm not saying go and beat yourself up.
48:24Don't put words in my mouth or assumptions, dude. I think I'm being very clear in what I'm trying to communicate. I need to build better habits. You're doing it again. You're doing it again. You are pushing off in a reasonable point by saying I need to do better. No, that you just define the entire conversation. That's an unnecessary statement. I know that. We all know that. But that is what everybody knows. Okay, then help me fix it. Show me how to fix this. But the first step of fixing that is not defending that it was a necessary evil. Because it wasn't a necessary evil. Fine. All of my actions so far have been awful.
49:01And I need to build on that. Do you actually believe that? Kind of. I know I've been making stupid decisions. The car shouldn't have been bought. I shouldn't have done half the shit I did. I don't like your responses, man. It's different. I feel like there could be a more mature way to look at this. That's possibly true, but that's who I am. I am who I am. I make decisions because of who I am, and now I need to deal with my actions because of who I am. You just did it again. Okay, let's just keep on going then. Is that how you talk? Yeah. You use it as a get-out-of-jail-free card for everything you do?
49:39I'm not intentionally trying to beat a dick. The statement like that is like, yeah, it's a good announcement, But, again, you weren't willing to actually – whatever. I'm not going to beat it over the head. I'm not going to beat it over the head. Okay, this Apple card. What's up with this card? That card is used for random purchases that just pop up. Like I budget my money until I have a certain amount set to spend for bills and a certain amount to spend on food and whatever. I don't know about bills. I see Dick's Sporting Guest. I see SodaStream. I see Uber Eats. I see Uber Eats. I see some golf thing.
50:11I see Mod Pizza, Chick-fil-A, Rudy's. Bills? What bills are we talking about? I see golf. I see going and getting some bulls**t. I see smart drinks and mod pizza. I also see Panda Express and Panda Express and smart drinks and an Apple bill and a Panda Express and Netflix and Spotify. Hmm, interesting. That's for excess. Oh, excess because we have so much access. I don't budget enough. You don't budget. Do you budget? So I budget, but I don't. If you budget, how did you spend? I'm spending more than I'm budgeting. That's where my problem lies. Well, I paid off the card. Yes, but you're still spending on it.
50:50Meaning anytime. I'm good. Listen, I feel like you're taking this a different way. Again, I'm not saying you are bad for paying off the card. Good. You have to continue to pay off the card. But in order to pay off continuing the card that you're purchasing on, that means you're still spending the money by paying off the card of all the swipes you're doing. So it's still more money than you have to spend. Well, most of those purchases are food. And I intend to get rid of those. which means that there won't be any balance on that card.
51:19I won't be spending money on, I'll try not to spend money on fast food as much as I did. And I'll try and eliminate it because one, it's not good for my health. Two, it's not good for my money. Your actions are this. I can't just allow you to say, I will not do that. You are doing that. If it was different and you weren't doing it on this card, I would believe you and I'd be okay with it. Two days of doing something just because you're going to come on the show does not count listen dude you are doing this so you telling me you're not going to means nothing because this is what you have been doing it's just like i said excess from not budging enough so your budging is confusing you say you budget but you don't do the actual act of budgeting i feel like you made a spreadsheet once like more or less like you're you're not budgeting if you spend a thousand five hundred dollars more than you make on a monthly basis i'm sure that number is partially incorrect i don't spend more than what i make i don't go oh okay i do but not that much well i mean the numbers are the numbers are the numbers like we had it it it was the spreadsheet literally like it's like your math it's your numbers part of it is also just from making when i made 100k that's when i that's my lifestyle that i i had i got used to that now you're just completely missing the point you had before more or less it's so you lied not necessarily what are you doing guy i feel like every time every time something comes out of your mouth you're just trying to sound good you're just trying to sound good but then it's incorrect and i have to call you out on it but it's hard for me to always call you out on things especially when you say something that is like um something kind of good where it's like yeah i need to change it like yes that is actually kind of what i want you to say but i know based on everything you're just saying what sounds good you're just saying what makes you look good but that's not actually addressing your root causes and i would rather you join the average guest that pays off you know ten thousand five hundred dollars in 11 months or the median ten thousand ten thousand i rather you do that but the people who do that they acknowledge their issues they acknowledge where their flaws are and they actually accept the change of they shouldn't have done that instead of justifying the past and instead of just trying to say things that make them look good they actually work and actually put the improvements in instead of being all talk but you're just being little talk guy all right it's like you're in circles over like why did you just say that thing that That was objectively untrue.
53:33And then you completely diminished it immediately and said something completely different. I don't understand it. I really don't. Because how is that productive? It's not very. That's obviously where I need to fix things. And I know you, I know, but I can't not acknowledge it. No, you can't. But you just say the thing that makes you look good. It's just like, I'm not trying to make myself look good, but that's the point. You do the lie. You get called down. You're like, oh, I'm right. Move on. Like, what are we doing? I don't like confrontation. I don't like disagreeing with people. Interesting show to sign up for.
54:08Fair enough. But it's, I mean, something had to change, obviously. What will actually be different this time? Not the I'm going to do it. What is actually different in your life going forward from here? Not the I'm going to do it. I don't want to hear any more of that. What is actually different? I mean, so far, not a whole lot because. Why would it be different? Can you give me a why? in my life things would be different by spending less money not by i'm asking the why because there is no action without the why give me the why why would things be different why to change yes because obviously i'm accruing more debt than i can take care of and i why does that matter there has to be a why man you're not giving a good why which gives me no encouragement of getting out of this well i don't want to be in debt my whole life and i want to buy a car that i like okay i now I have a car and it's nice.
54:59It's okay. So that's one of our big goals is a car. So a lot of... And I want to move. I want to get out of Texas. I want to move up north somewhere nice, but I can't... Here we go. These are some ones. I can't keep on renting because that's just throwing my money away. Kind of. It's not as good as buying a home and being able to put money towards my equity. It depends on the situation. Right now, mathematically, renting makes more sense, especially in Austin. Okay. I'll concede to that. but at the same point i do need to get out of here okay there's some decent there's a decent why to move and to get the car you want um okay okay i can work with that okay a why is not because i'm going to change that's not a why i need you to focus on these things i want you to set the goal then i need you to really think what does it take what boxes do we have to check off to get there and really start hitting to those because if you are just aimless in this or you're just trying to get out of confrontation, you're just trying to do what makes you look good or say what makes you look good, you're not going to actually get to the end why that you're trying to get to.
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56:51Some of the money from the Amazon card has been for purchases for Christmas, for presents. And then some of it was pants. Yeah, but why on here was my question. Like even to spending what I have recommended and not necessarily, but regardless, why did you put it on here? A card that is not being fully paid off, but was close. And you were so close. And now it's accruing interest. It has the points on it. And then also I can't put on the debit card at the time. Okay. Then we can't afford it. Then it simply becomes... But it's unnecessary. Christmas presents are not unnecessary. That's a little different.
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59:08It was as easy as that. points that's not equating anything on this amazon card i know you're getting five percent it's a good card regardless if you're getting five percent with the interest that is occurring on this you're completely losing it so it doesn't your points your points you're not getting them they don't work in the way you're making them work oh this works dude it takes eight months to pay off just the minimum monthly payment and it's only a two or four forty it's like not even crazy. $29 minimum fee payment. I was going to say, I don't do minimum payments. I know you don't. Oh, how many times?
59:44That's not the point. It doesn't, you know, it doesn't matter, right? I would like to, may I whiteboard this? Perhaps, perhaps I feel like you might be, maybe it'll help you understand because you're saying that like it's a bragging thing. Like you're trying to get me over there and give you some sloppy top, no sloppy top to you. You don't deserve it because I need to show you how this works with your little Okay?
1:00:10Okay. I'll turn it around. Think of this.
1:00:36here's your income spelled like C-U-M isn't that funny here's your little payments here's this isn't proportional but here's your minimum okay here's your little extra you're putting towards it okay because you're putting a decent chunk over here to cover this from your income right right because he's a big guy he pays more than his minimum monthlies and then you immediately come and spend this much on the credit cards if you are putting extra to your credit cards and in order to do that you drain down the income and do not have the money in your checking account to pay for things and immediately rack up the credit cards again It doesn't matter if you put more to the credit card because you build it way back up again.
1:01:37Math. You're in the math classes. You're in the math zone. You're zucking it up, okay? You know how this works. Stop being a dumb little tit. Don't jerk yourself off anymore that you put more towards it. You put more towards this 150? well done he did it but then you put 128 towards like back on it so it doesn't matter never say again in a conversation with anyone about money that you put more towards it because it doesn't matter you build it all the way back up again every time on every card we've seen so never say it again you are not earning a prize with it let me see your amazon account thank you mouthwash good highly recommend good job
1:02:34battery packs mike i have a career fair in a few days i'm gonna record the sessions instead of trying to write notes down there's his pants silver chain trying to be a cool guy No, I'm wearing a cross, but my chain broke. To your protection. You got like a warranty? Zoom lens? I don't think we're doing a hobby of photography right now. I'm sorry. It was cheap. Cheap doesn't matter. You don't have the money. Look what you just did. Stop trying to. Just don't. Stop. Stop. Seriously. A million dollar bill desktop collectible. You are trying to fucking survive. Shut the fuck up, president or not. I don't care.
1:03:11National State Parks Google Images. listen you get it when you're out of debt i want you to get these things i really do you just don't get her and i'm glad you got a lunchbox that's a step in the right direction shampoo and stuff i'm okay with that did you need the headphones probably not present presence i'm gonna look at your subscriptions also
1:03:37no case no problem yeah it's heavy yeah 13's pretty high it's paid off that's better be this is risky do you have apple care yes you better be but you can't afford another subscription regardless i think for people like you no offense you're in debt you're dying negative in your checking account trying to figure out how to pay the bills won't work anymore than he already does get a case luminosity golf swing multiple apple cares you pay for weather channel premium it's ten dollars you don't have ten dollars and it's the action it's not the purchase specifically. Look how many purchases are justifying across the board.
1:04:14Total AV monthly subscription. So you have a lot of subscriptions. I'd cancel a lot of them. Did you start a screen recording? Not that I'm aware. I said start a screen recording. I didn't hear you. I was looking. Oh, sorry, guys. It wasn't on screen because guys not listening. I can put it on screen. It's already done. Sorry. They're asking if you have weak wrists. I don't know for why. I may have missed something. weak wrists. Now me, because I said the phone was heavier than the current generations maybe. You can feel that difference? Couldn't lift his phone. I couldn't? Alright, what's going on?
1:04:54Okay, negative$9.14.
1:05:01You can't justify literally anything you've done this entire conversation. Not even the stupid little$10 purchase because it's not behavior at that point. That is just an actual purchase I would call out because you are negative in your checking account. The moment you're negative in your checking account, those don't exist. It is as simple as that. No more collectibles. No more dum-dum. No more stupid stupid. It's stupid. Okay? My thing is, I'm not saying I should. Some things need to go to personal life. I have that much. I agree to that. Not until you're overdrafting. Once you're overdrafting, it doesn't matter.
1:05:33You're in fire mode. I have not accrued an overcharge fee in at least a year. Look how close. At least a year. I haven't. How about I haven't? Huh? You like that? Jerk me off now. Now I'm saying it to get awards. I don't give a shit. You haven't in a year. Good job. Look how close you are. You're going to do it again. It's just a matter of time. You're skating by by this much. This much. I understand that I need to put more money. but how much would I be able to put towards myself? I don't know yet, but all I'm saying, if you're negative, you're checking account zero. Cause at that point you're in emergency mode, emergency mode.
1:06:20It's not a question at that point. Well, the way I work things currently as I have money coming in weekly and a bill weekly. So it always gets close to zero because I am getting close to what I've put away. So it's not like I'm negative. Nine dollars, 14 cents. Is that zero? No. Oh, that's interesting. shut the f*** up then canteen, canteen, McDonald's another Apple bill, canteen, canteen McDonald's, Rudy's, barbecue soda stream, what the f*** is all this soda stream it's like every second of your life it's 48 bucks, I know what it is but why is it so much, no but I saw it on the credit cards too, it's for the CO2, it's 40 bucks a month, how much f***ing CO2 are you f***ing shoving up your I do like two bottles a month I saw three charges when you return oh there's also drinks i bought the drinks themselves apple cash sent out rudy's barbecue chick-fil-a mcdonald's hat creek burger amazon subway rudy's barbecue canteen canteen in reach mcdonald's tacos in reach you're talking about having a little bit of personal spending this is once a day shut the f**k up you don't know what you're talking about apple bill double dave's rudy's country store barbecue rudy's country store barbecue.
1:07:32Amazon, Microsoft, Double Dave's. Canteen vending, canteen vending, Rudy's barbecue, canteen vending. Hello, bros. Not even that good. Rudy's Country Store barbecue, Rudy's Country Store barbecue, Apple Cash sent out. Canteen vending, canteen vending, Duchess. Apple Cash sent out. My Pizza, Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A, Dairy Queen, Rudy's Country store cash app double dave's rudy's cash app cash app sound out what is all this cash app dude rent that's how it comes in nine dollars cash app and apple cash what is this apple cash nine dollars i have no clue i don't know what a nine dollar charge on apple cash is from a month ago whatever i don't i don't know yeah you ended negative so stop being a dick you little You ended negative.
1:08:24You should know. Because, guess what? You wouldn't be negative if you didn't have it. F*** you. Child. Apple bill. Stopped at a gas station, got some bull****. Mod's Pizza. Stopped at a gas station, got some bull****. Torchies. InReach. Spotify. Guys, I know for a fact that I don't spend more than I make negative in this checking account. Shut the f*** up. And other Spotify. You have Spotify on two different things. Spotify here and on a credit card. You're out of control. You have no idea what the f*** is happening. You are a literal baby. InReach. Chevron. You stopped in and got some bulls***.
1:08:58And an Apple bill. Why is there$500 in savings if we're negative in there? I'm so confused. You actually put more in. You put$800, but then you had to take out money. So I saw Dave Ramsey things saying you should put$1 ,000 in savings. It's a good start. I can't justify myself having that money in there when I have the debt. And then recently I had to do... You know you'd have the money in there if you weren't. Rudy's Country Store and Betty Machine every single day. At this current moment, I needed the money, and so I spent the money on dental work. No. I'm saying the money that I put in, I used for dental work because I had to pay it off.
1:09:31How much was the dental work? $800. That's curious. How much did you spend going out to eat? $800-ish. Huh. Needed the money. Yeah, maybe we find it from other sources and not an emergency fund. $3 ,000 in Robin Hood. Okay, so. Can I see your Robin Hood? I want to see what you're invested in. Well, nothing. Well, I have a little bit in crypto. $3 ,000? My friend told me to invest in this thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's$200. That's crypto, yeah. So I made... That's F***ing Shib, Pepe, and Doge. Oh, my f***ing heart, kid. Oh, f***ing. If they go... Okay, my thing with stocks is... Your thing with stocks?
1:10:15Yeah, let me hear this. okay well first we'll start with the the money in so i put like five in towards this one stock that was supposed to go off crazy it was supposed to it was it was scheduled to guys it was scheduled it was ready it was like we clocked it in every six months it went up a hundredfold that's not a schedule that go on for the past three years every six months that had gone up so i invested and about the three years before that it wasn't available then okay so it's relatively new so i I put the money in and of course it tanked because that's my luck. Not luck because you made a stupid investment.
1:10:49And then it went back up and I made my money back. And some. I left a little bit in there for crypto just in case it happens to be Bitcoin 2.0 and I get to be a millionaire for free. It's$100. I don't care about that. Why did it go down from$3 ,300 to$200? I cashed out and put it towards... So from the stock when? Yeah, I cashed out that and put it towards one of the cards. so you didn't actually pay off like the card from behavior based things you got lucky on a bet oh my it all makes so much more sense of course not you haven't made any progress really you got lucky once oh you oh there went my hope there went my hope i was like oh you paid off the apple card okay we can do something here at the end but the apple card was separate i already put the money towards the other how much was the apple card uh the last payment i'd have to look i think it was like 500 or I paid it off because I'd been able to be working more.
1:11:47But you spent multi-hundreds on there, didn't you? Again, your payoff doesn't matter if the money goes back on. What about net? Net a hundred, maybe? You keep trying to, like, really get pants on the back for that. But you don't get them when you put it back on. Dude. Kidding me? Remind me your rent again, your portion. $340. And utilities? I don't pay utilities. Internet? I don't pay towards that. What a joke. There's no reason for this, man. We'll figure out the school costs in a second. Obviously, no minimum payments on the student loans. Okay, so$436 for your debt payments.
1:12:33Gas, room, room, drive, drive, monthly basis? $50 a week. So times$400. $200. Is that how it works? car insurance how much 187 300 hours of groceries use the cookbook that you get for free when you use our simpler budget app enjoying premium with all the classes and stuff it's 300 a month what what the 300 you're allotting for grocery spending yeah okay what you can do just actually meal prep tp fun hundred anything else you need that's your toothpaste that's your dildos whatever you use whatever gets you there man Pet insurance, do you have any pets? No. Okay. Good. I hate pets. You hate pets?
1:13:15I hate hair. It gets everywhere. No, you look like someone who'd eat them. Okay. Well, yeah. Got a little dommer in you. Medical, healthcare, anything on a monthly basis? Not currently for healthcare. I'm on my parents. Yeah, but like prescriptions or anything? Therapy? Prescriptions, 100 a month, maybe. I haven't had to get any recently so I don't know so it will be coming up? yes I do need to get a refill soon ok we'll put 100 in feels a bit high what is it? well I have multiple I have one for sleeping and one for if it's multiple that makes more sense depending especially on your parents plan also one thing that reminded me of is I had another some of the spending on that card was from a an esophageal sapphire an esophageal enlargement twice because I basically choke on every meal I have don't do that do you take something for that?
1:14:22I do now I'm sorry that must be horrible I would feel like I'm about to choke every single time is it a mental thing or is it physical? no it's physical I have eosinophils there's too many in my throat So this is the thing that's prescribable. Well, obviously. Yes. Okay. The treatment is enlargement, which kind of takes, kind of doesn't. And then something to combat the autoimmune disorder of the eosinophils. How long have you been taking it? Six months, a year now. I hope it gets better, man. Is there more they're able to do? Well, there's the enlargement is the surgery, so to speak. And I can do more of those, but it's expensive.
1:14:59Oh, so you've done them before. I've done two. And it helps for a bit? I mean, it's better than what it was. I haven't had it feel like I'm going to die recently. As long as we're avoiding that, right? I feel like that's the big thing. No death. What's the point of all the work we're about to do? Well, that you're about to do. No choking on No choking on So yeah, that's some of the medical bills too that accrued on my card. Anything else on a monthly basis that needs to be in here? I think that's about it. Cool, congratulations. You have leftover money. I'm not surprised. I already told you. you have$536.87.
1:15:36I'll give you$100 towards fun because you just absolutely need that. You won't sacrifice. I'd rather get you there even if it takes a little longer. Though, you know, the intent, if you could really show the intent by going all in. But whatever. It is what it is. What's your... I know it's going to change once you transfer to full-time to UT or A &M, but what's your tuition right now? I paid$1 ,500 for... everything you could have cash flowed that fuck you could have cash flowed that now what you said earlier sorry was even 2300 you could have been pretty damn close especially since you work more during breaks because you only do fall and spring right yeah well i'll do summer as well hopefully oh that's a little less right yeah okay i think you could have cashed it would have been close you may have had to borrow a little but i think you would have got really close so what you said earlier incorrect man but now we're in a situation where i'd rather you borrow those loans and have this extra money go towards paying off things like the sapphire the so fire the amazon amazon obviously we take care of in a month it's not even a question okay but the so fire that let's take care of the sapphire next no just minimum payments on all this and everything else towards what we're focusing on and we do the amazon first sapphire we kill in about i'd say about a year which is okay you're in school oh yeah you got yourself in the hole man work more i know you can and if you bring in a couple hundred extra bucks you get that down to you know like seven months or so like you can make this go quicker um and at that point with what's left over i'm gonna say the sofa is probably gonna be about a year and a half after that but two and a half years while still in school that's actually not horrendous to get out of the mess and then you got to focus on paying down the student loans already financing to them to a lower rate if you can afterwards but you lose some of the protections that we'll talk about it then but either way they're not at a great rate but I'd rather you borrow at that rate and pay off the bad loans.
1:17:32One thing with UT is saving grace is it's free if I get in. Well, there you go. I have to get in, but it would be free. Please do. Work your ass off, and you already are. We've allotted the hours to it. If you can work an extra five hours a week, man, seriously, and like, what is it? 25 is what you make an hour? 20? Okay, 25. That's an extra 500 bucks a month. So let's just say like 350. 50 uh yeah you're you're almost be you almost be doubling what goes towards it instead of two and a half years like i think you could bring this down to like a year and a quarter man come on a year and a quarter then you save up a fully funded emergency fund by the time you graduate college you're off to the races you have an incredible life it just takes a little bit of sacrifice now and i'm even giving you a hundred dollars of fun don't this up don't be so defensive don't look for the pats on the back don't try to get out of negative confrontations time to have that confrontation with yourself internally and actually work on this shit get to the goal you want to get to the things you named are okay like a nice car shirt whatever if that's what you want fine you know we got to get to some things before that like some investment goals and stuff sure but you know the house and moving i'm i'm good with all that let's do that and this is the first path towards there so please follow this please take the classes the budgeting class the debt class the investing class please use the resources that we give you please use the simpler budget app.
1:18:50Come on, man. We are giving you everything, everything in our power to make sure you can get there. Be like the average guest. Be like the median guest. You can do it. Spending in a budget. You overspend. So you're out of 10. Debt, not the worst of the worst of the worst in terms of the numbers. Not fantastic either, but two out of 10 because it is still bad. High interest, even your student loans subsidize even. Bad interest. Merchancy fund. I'll give you a one and be generous because you're not even a tenth of the way to a fully funded emergency fund retirement I'll give you one to be beyond generous with the doge I have invested in a 401k oh how much you have I have 32 and one 3200 and a Roth and 900 and a traditional 401 that's another thing I don't know let me do some math oh sorry go ahead actually go ahead I was gonna say I don't know how much I should put towards that because Because I know with...
1:19:49Right now, nothing. Well, are you going to match? No. Then nothing right now. Nothing right now. Works not good. Nothing right now until you get to what we defined and then all that debt, really, because it's all bad debt in terms of interest rate, and then a fully funded emergency fund.
1:20:05So you had how much in retirement again exactly? It would be approximately$4 ,100. $4 ,100. Okay. Combined. We need you to be to a minimum if you're at the same income level of 30, 26 ,000. So I'm going to give you a three out of 10 retirement wise. Real estate is zero out of 10 for now. But if we get to those goals, you'll get there. You'll get there. Don't be defensive and petty on the back end, silly little guy. Round it up. Hammer financial score 1.5 out of 10. Make sure to join us in the post show, guys. It's an extra 20 minutes every episode, plus a call-in show and a lot of other things live streams.
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