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Episode Title
Mail-Order Bride Hates Her New Husband | Financial Audit
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Episode Overview
In this episode of "Financial Audit," host Caleb Hammer interviews a young married couple, Tessa and James, who are navigating significant financial challenges shortly after their marriage. The couple's financial situation is complex and filled with poor decisions, underscored by a lack of financial literacy and accountability.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Couple's Background
- Tessa (22): From Mexico, recently married to James. Awaiting her K-1 visa to work legally in the U.S.
- James (22): Works as an order selector making $23.50 per hour. Describes himself as a failed entrepreneur.
- Financial Situation
- Income:
- James earns about $2,800/month after taxes, which is insufficient for their living expenses.
- Rent: $1,320 per month, nearly half of their income.
- Debt:
- Total debt includes credit cards, personal loans, and purchase of ball pythons as an investment, which has not yielded any returns yet.
- Credit Issues:
- High credit card balances, late payments, and an eviction notice due to missed rent.
- Spending Habits
- The couple spends beyond their means, highlighted by costs associated with a lavish lifestyle including multiple trips to Cancun.
- Discussion of various expenses, including frequent dining out, subscriptions, and impulsive purchases.
- James’s Entrepreneurial Ventures
- Attempts to start a pressure washing business and invest in breeding ball pythons, both considered failed ventures.
- James expresses a desire to create wealth but lacks a viable strategy and often acts on impulse rather than sound financial principles.
- Financial Literacy and Accountability
- Lack of communication between the couple regarding finances, leading to misunderstandings and poor decision-making.
- The couple's ignorance about their financial status and the ramifications of their spending habits is a recurring theme.
- Advice from Caleb Hammer
- Caleb emphasizes the importance of budgeting and financial education, offering resources and programs to improve their situation.
- He urges the couple to take responsibility for their financial actions, particularly James, who often deflects blame.
- Emotional Dynamics
- Tessa expresses frustration with James’s decisions and their financial situation, reflecting a common theme of financial stress in relationships.
- James acknowledges his mistakes but appears to lack urgency in making meaningful changes to improve their financial health.
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Key Takeaways
- Financial Literacy: The importance of understanding personal finance to prevent debt accumulation and poor spending habits.
- Communication: Effective communication between partners is crucial in managing finances and making collective decisions.
- Accountability: Individuals must take responsibility for their financial decisions and seek education or assistance when needed.
- Long-Term Planning: Immediate gratification through spending can jeopardize future financial stability, underscoring the need for budgeting and saving.
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Conclusion This episode of "Financial Audit" unpacks the complexities of a young couple's financial life, highlighting the challenges of debt, inadequate income, and poor decision-making. Caleb Hammer's direct approach serves as a wake-up call for the couple to take their finances seriously and work towards a sustainable financial future.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. Who the f*** is buying ball pythons? Him. I was like, don't do it. He did it. This is our marriage and you didn't give a f***. You spent a lot of f***ing money on f***ing snakes. You made a bad decision. I can tell you here. I can tell you in the house. I don't care. All of our education is bundled together for 15 % off with a 30-day money-back guarantee. Go to calebhammer.com slash bundle or click the link in the description or pinned comment below. Hi, my name is Tessa and I'm 22 years old. Hi, my name is James. I'm 22 years old.
0:33We're both from Dallas. And this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming down to Austin, guys. So we'll start with you. This is a married couple, right? Yes. You guys are young. Wow. Me. All right. Nearing on 30. I'm making me a bit nervous. I kind of had to marry. Oh, is there a baby involved? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So we applied for a K-1 visa. I'm not from here. I'm Mexican. Is this a 90-day fiancé type situation? Yes, yes. Pretty much. Is it actually? Yeah. What the fuck? But no, we don't have a show. We didn't. Yeah, we didn't sign up for it. We were thinking about it, but we didn't.
1:10When did you guys get married? I literally had no idea. October 18th. Okay, so just got married, essentially. Yes. But we have three years together already. November of 21 is when we first met. Are you marrying for good reasons? Yeah, no, yeah. We met through Instagram because of my best friend. They studied together. and we started a relationship this is not a gold digger that's what my mom-in-law thought but no it's not i swear to god okay what do you do for a living i can't not work because the government i can't but i i used to i i have my career yeah what was your career uh international relations yeah i'm like what's the plan to get into work uh logistics okay yeah what's the timeline whenever i have my green card yeah i can work we don't know it could be six months a year two it's kind of a long story into that because we have to pay for the process to begin and for our legal team that's going to cost about 3500 3500 okay and okay and you guys have done up to your eyeballs so obviously that would be kind of all right i guess we probably need to hear the story here pretty soon but what do you do for a living uh so i'm a order selector for a cooler company our major clients are sprouts so basically what we do is we what do you make i make uh 23 50 an hour an hour can you support both of you guys on this how many hours a week do you work about 40 um coming off the busy season so yeah we were i was working about 50 hours a week over the past three months right now i'm working about 35 to 40 assuming paid time off and everything talking four thousand dollars essentially a month before taxes yes what hits your account monthly uh currently currently with the 40 hours a week it's about 2800 okay two people 2800 dallas we're stretching it well no you're deading yeah i'm not stretching let's not think of ourselves I was making it.
3:20Yeah, true. What was the intention then behind... What was our plan then? With income, you guys getting married and everything. What was our plan? What did we discuss? What was the hope? So eventually what we were planning on doing was getting her into her career field. Because with her logistics background, she... What do you do for the next two years? Just work towards getting back up and current. Honestly, that's the main goal is getting out of the hole that I dug myself into, now my wife into. Oh, this is all you? Pretty much. So you didn't bring any debt to this table? International or anything?
3:56No, not really. Like$300. Okay. What's your rent? $1320. $1320.99. So we're looking at almost half. About half the income, yeah. $1320.99? Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's not the lightest sprint. Okay, so what happened? You guys said, story, story, story. Go ahead. This is your time. So we really didn't have like a timeline. We applied for this visa on August 22nd, 22, 23, August 23. And we didn't know if we were going to get approved like quick. And you guys actually do like each other. Yes. Yeah. You do love each other? Yes. We do love each other. Okay, just want to make sure. Because I mean, you said like the 90 day fiance.
4:42You got to clarify with some of these things. But yeah, no, for sure. We had enough information between us and the government to be like, you know what? Seems pretty legit. They ask you for like letters from your family, from your friends that actually is a legit relationship. So yes, we passed that. And we love each other. I love him. Okay. Sure. Why you didn't say that you love me too? I love you. I'm sorry. I might throw something dry. Okay. Okay. I was in high school. I was a junior in high school. I met her best friend growing up in a passing period. So she was a grade year older than me, so we never actually had classes together.
5:27But what ended up happening was we met during state testing. I don't know if you're familiar. No. So if you... State testing? Yeah. So if you pass through all of your star testing, stuff like that, then... This is all Texas. Okay. Sorry. so you get put into a passing period to where like all the other kids that actually have to take the test they will go into the holding room and that's where i met her best friend we were playing uno together and she and i was kind of just sitting in the corner i was more i was more of like a loner i didn't really want to talk to anybody and she was like hey come play uno it was like a group of six of us and then we kind of talked and you definitely look like a guy that sits in the corner oh thank you i try i try yeah i mean i got out of my shell for the most part but yeah in that You seem cool.
6:07You seem cool. We talked. She ended up going back to Mexico. And then she told her about me. And then that's kind of how we started talking. It's not what happened. So she posted a story on Instagram, close friends. And she was like, I'm looking for somebody who wants boyfriends. I was like, oh, well, okay. I'm looking for someone who wants boyfriends? Yeah, like if you want a relationship, right? Like if you want a boyfriend from United States. Oh. Calebhammer.com slash apply. That's how you become my girlfriend. Looking for them now, looking for wife. So I just replied and she was like, oh, I was actually thinking about you.
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8:48So I, growing up, I always had the idea of like, I'm going to make generational wealth. I'm going to make it to where my kids, my grandkids, they don't have to worry about money okay as much as i did yeah that was that was the goal ultimately so i got out of high school uh throughout high school i was working nine to five 40 hours a week while i was doing full-time school okay and i was in track so i always but entrepreneurial
9:14so i went and i was just looking for originally i wanted to start doing car detailing almost every time on the show this has happened so many times on the show car detailing the people that want to have their own business. This is immediately what they go into. I mean, I feel like a lot of the YouTube holes you kind of go into, they're like, oh, become your own boss, make$500 a day kind of thing. See, I more see you 3D printing AR-15s, but. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's money in that too. Yeah. There's a lot of money in that. I actually watched a couple podcasts on that, but we'll disregard. Go on, Mr.
9:46Car Wash. I eventually ended up going into more of like a, hey, how about pressure washing? Because I've seen that I could do the auto detailing. one it's another one that constantly happens it's a you go down the rabbit holes the little self-entrepreneur the side hustle make 500 a day kind of thing okay so i i seen that and i was like yeah you know i see a lot of upside to this there's a lot of people obviously in dfw i mean over the past four years i think it's basically forexed in the population between people that are moving from california illinois stuff like that so i uh i seen that i was like oh yeah there's a lot of people that are going to want their houses clean since they're older and they're getting bought up by these richer people.
10:23So I went into it. I invested. I got a, I got a loan for a loan. Why'd you go loan? I didn't have the capital at the time. I had just need, I needed, well, I needed to buy a pressure washer. Yeah. What's the money amount? What did you need? Uh, how much is the pressure washer? So I kind of, how much is a pressure washer? The pressure washer was about a thousand. You could have cash flowed a thousand. So I, You could have saved up and grind a little. So I had the money at the time. What the f*** are you talking about? I couldn't fund it. So it was kind of a weird... Tell him it's not one pressure washer.
11:01So I do have multiple pressure washers. Now? Today? Tell him that you don't use them. Tell him. I don't think she likes the pressure washers. No, well, she just doesn't like the fact that they're not being used the way that they should be. How are they being used? They're not being used. He bought something from Facebook Marketplace And said that it was new Okay, he hasn't used it What, a pressure washer? Yeah, a big ass pressure washer So I have two pressure washers I have one that's smaller It's a, I mean, people that know pressure washer It's four gallons per minute Are you still trying this thing?
11:32Yes Well, no, you're not You're not using them Well, not currently, yeah Because I mean, I'm trying it I'm trying it, but I just But you're not using them So you're not trying it I'm not using it currently, yeah So What the f*** are you talking about? Okay so i have the pressure washers i did a lot of preemptive buying i took the loan money i did a lot of preemptive buying did you borrow i borrowed oh i got a i got a proved for a credit card for 10 000 wasn't even like a small business loan or a personal loan no it was it was a it was a credit card 10 000 okay and then what do you put on this 10 000 credit card uh the 10 000 so they had a they had a deal oh 10 000 they had it they had a deal where if you spend 10 000 within the first three months, they'll give you a thousand dollar reimbursement.
12:13Which if you're doing some credit card training can be good if you pay it off. If I had the anticipation, I was planning on being able to pay it off within the first six months. Obviously, it didn't work out that way. But I thought that with my work ethic, I would be able to turn over 10 ,000 easy. And especially with all the YouTube. Why? What is so confident in this? Every single person that goes down these rabbit holes like you. And it is not bad to have a side hustle. It is not bad to be entrepreneurial. but every single person that goes down these rabbit holes are just beyond beyond confident that they are going to make so much money they don't even think about the now they're just like i'm gonna make it it's gonna happen get on the grind set
13:00got you i mean yeah your grind set has led to just endless debt yeah that was i mean yeah the hindsight of it was was obviously horrible but i i jumped into it with good intentions and i still do have good intentions good intent you're you're washing off dirt i mean okay well i guess that's a noble thing but yeah i mean well obviously people want to get their houses cleaned yeah there's also a thousand other pressure washers what's your business strategy that makes you unique yeah being a little bit cheaper more available yeah being a little bit cheaper more available that was kind of other people aren't available you think the price market out there isn't competitive It is pretty competitive.
13:37I thought that it wasn't as competitive as it actually is. But then I used the rest of it to get into window cleaning as well. And that is actually what I've seen most of my ROI from. Gosh, okay. So I do the water-fed pole systems. What income can I calculate for all this? Well, it's not really a set thing. Okay, what do you think about this? Because I see you just sitting there just like... She's kind of stewing on it. Yeah, what do you think about this whole thing? I mean, I help him doing it. I see future. Wash windows? Yeah, I see future. but there's a couple he doesn't have the time to do it like he works what from you just don't work thursday and saturday yeah i'm off thursdays and saturdays i work five days a week and you are not doing it so he's not working on it why is it why why why why why yeah why i was working so much that i didn't have time for her necessarily oh you guys are in the honeymoon stage anyway you could do anything and it doesn't matter but i mean it just okay well what's your thought on that Was it too much?
14:34It was. Okay. Then what? You want him to go work those extra things? It was not because of me. He got home and he was just like not doing anything. I was beat. Just sleeping. I was beat. And I had to take care of the house, like cleaning. And I still do. Well, you're not working. Yeah, I'm not. And I am bored. Yeah, I would be too. I get it. He got so tired. He was super stressed. We had problems because he was just too stressed. and he couldn't focus on stuff because he was stressed. Focus. Focus, not focus. Oh. Good. Yeah, hopefully that doesn't go anywhere. That's you guys. I'm not judging.
15:15It happens. Okay. Then he got scammed. I did get scammed. Money. I got scammed pretty early on into my pressure washing business venture. So I had signed up for a leads service. That's where a majority of my clients were coming from. Yeah. Yeah, sure. So Angie was pretty, I guess you could say predatory whenever it came to like, oh, hey. Angie's list? Angie's list, yeah. Angie, yeah. So I got on. They were like, hey, we'll sign you up for a, if you don't want to pay for the annual or the lifetime subscription, it's going to be$2.50 a year and then you don't get leads. But if you want to sign up for a lifetime, it's, I think it was$7.99 and then they'll give you a free$1 ,000 worth of leads.
15:56Okay. So in retrospect, I had the money at the time. I was like, yeah, let's do that. Well, you mean the credit card? Yes, the credit card. I had the credit card. Okay. I had the credit card available. I had to spend$10 ,000. In my mind, I was like, yeah, let's spend 10 Gs. Let's make it quick. Make it quick. Make it snappy. They've won, man. They won. They beat the system. Honestly, they've got everybody just like in a loophole. Especially us. Yes, us. And a majority of the leads weren't actual leads. They were fake people. They were using fake info. They were providing fake addresses. and they were saying, hey, come to this address and do this.
16:29I would go out there. It's like a beater. It's a trash house. So the guy says, hey, I'm moving into Dallas in a month. I want you to go check out this house. Give me a quote for how much it would cost to clean up the whole house. It'll be$8.50 to clean the whole house. He's like, okay, so I'm not going to be in in a while. I'm going to send you a check. So I get the check, but in the check, he also provided an amount for his electrician because he said obviously i'm not going to be there i'm going to put your pay and his pay into one check that doesn't make sense it doesn't in the in the in the moment i was like okay sure whatever what why how would that even possibly make sense to you that's just that seems like it i mean you sell beyond easily i so i didn't understand checks at the time i've never i've literally in the in the new age i've never they are pretty just it's outdated it's outdated and i've never and being like okay so what you did the work and so i didn't even do the work i got the check he was like okay go ahead and send the money the rest of the money to the electrician because oh no you don't i'm sorry i shouldn't you're good oh but that you're good it's it's stupid that is what a 90 year old falls for yeah i know i know and the check cleared oh it was it was an african prince the african prince got me and he he was like look just send the money to this to him through this crypto wallet and i was like okay cool let's do it and because the check cleared and i threw a crypto wallet yeah i know i know look guy how was there was nothing there was nothing but red flags the whole time i was 20 at the time oh so i just i didn't not young enough to be that naive that's crazy in the time i seen the 4k hit my account i was like oh yeah well it's my money now i was like okay cool i got 4gs in my account this is fine and then obviously the check bounced i had already sent a thousand to the to the crypto wallet he originally i was supposed to send three thousand but i was like you know what let me wait until the date of the job to send you the rest and then the check bounced i said what the what the and then he was he was like you still need to send the rest of the money my bank my my bank manager will figure it out and yeah that's how did you no no it was only the thousand i i got I got Prevy to it, unfortunately.
18:50Dude, you're crazy. Dude, it rocked my world. It sucked. I can't. It sucked. Unfortunately, I don't have any kind of connections that could get you leads. I can give you one of our partner's stand stores so you can get a better storefront for your business. Okay. That's pretty cool. We've used them. They're pretty good. So I'll get you connected with them. Yeah. So I've watched a couple of the episodes and you mentioned, I think you were talking to somebody about a Turo. Like he had a car that he was putting on Turo. uh so you spoke to you were speaking on an app called thumbtack oh yeah so yeah i started using thumbtack and that's where a majority of my business was coming from was where now where's your business i don't have any real well i have time it's just that i haven't really been putting the effort that i should have been into it i've been putting more into the all right so you got some overtime paying and 5599 came in through payroll so that's good it was it was nice usually it's 2008 50 though yeah now now that we're we're back into like the slow season yeah what you're giving face towards him what nothing oh okay she's just into it okay feeding in huh she's just tapped in she's locked in how much do you think you spent how much do i think i spent uh how much did you think was spent again 5 599 came in usually it's 2 850 how much do you think was spent All of it.
20:07How much do you think was spent? I'm going to say the$5 ,000. I'd say about the same. Okay. $6 ,497. So I don't know what the f*** you guys are talking about. You don't even know. You guys are married. Do you have access to the finances? Do you know anything about the finances? Where do you think your guys' finances are at? Because you guys are combined. You guys are married. Yeah, I know. I don't have access. I don't have the app in my phone. App? Okay. I know. We use chicks. Yeah, I mean, we sit. He talks to me. and he said, look, this is what I do. Does he talk to you or does he talk at you?
20:38He talks with me. So he does? He leads you through it? Yeah, I'm not giving her the runaround saying like, oh, we're millionaires. How much do you understand about the numbers? It's a pretty different system. Yeah, but what do you think your household finances are at today? Mm-mm. They're not good. Sometimes we cannot even pay. Explain it to me. What? You can't pay? Pay what? So we got an eviction notice. Oh, good, good. Absolute. Well, no, it's like 50 % of your damn income. An eviction notice? How many months were we not paying? No, we paid. We're current. The only reason why we got the eviction.
21:16Yeah. Why are you late on rent? So, yeah, I mean. You don't get to quit the other jobs if you're late on rent. I don't care if it means you're not able to get up, man. You just. You have to be able to pay rent. roof over the house or break that lease i know it's expensive and then move to somewhere cheaper which i know you can just a little tighter we can move yeah we can move to the ghetto you know it's not like it's that not just the ghetto you can have something smaller what's your what's your apartment size we're not even that big what's your apartment like it's like six it's a one bedroom one bath it's not an efficiency but it's uh six hundred and sixty four square feet okay so it's already relatively small it's just a it's a very good it's a decent location now it's very good you were correct when you said that your brain was correct for the access it's pretty close to the highways so like getting to and from locations that can just zip then we had a storage unit that it was too expensive and too little cause all of kids she's outing out all your dumb assery I mean that's what that's what weiser for
22:26okay That ought to get citizenship. So he was spending... I don't know about that one. I'm kidding. Go on. So he was spending like what? Almost$200 on the storage unit? Good f***, man. And it was a 10 by 10. It was a 10 by 10. So I had signed up for... You already don't know that you spent$1 ,500 more than you made on a great month,$1 ,000. Yeah. But in reality, it's double. Double. more than double on a normal month of your income in fact i see you had to pull from a brokerage yeah if we're pulling from a brokerage traditional ira we're being stupid from an ira you pull from a tax advantage account good but we need to talk about the snakes though what do you want to tell him uh yeah i'll go ahead and do this is so many you know wait yeah yeah so go on when i when i say When I say entrepreneur, I went into different - What is he selling his kids online?
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24:41So I had a buddy of mine. Well, still friend. We're still friends. he has he's a very he's very invested into the ball python industry he's he's got a decent who the is buying ball pythons him and me now yes him so really it's like a ball python pyramid scheme you get breeded python so that you convince other ball python potential breeders to make more money you just sell them you breed and sell to them so that they can breed and sell to other people and ball by some pyramid. He called me one time. Right. And he was like, he was like, look, I have this business, whatever. I was like, don't do it.
25:22He did it. He didn't give a about what I said. This is our marriage. And you didn't give a about what I said. Listen to your situation because you spend a lot of money on snakes. Yeah. That's not even given any kids yet. yeah there hasn't there hasn't been anything back from it yet babies i bought them guys oh no no the snakes yeah so i bought them they're not they're not they're not producing yet so are you sure you have the correct genders necessary for reproduction yes yes i've checked them so i have 10 currently how much was all these seven thousand dollars seven thousand seven thousand dollars and nine nine snakes when when when when possibly when possibly did you this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of my when did you possibly do this probably about a year a year ago why'd you continue with this marriage with someone that would do that i mean at the end of the day i was not living with him i was still doing my own money i was like okay Okay, go do whatever you want to do.
26:34I'm sure you love him, but can you be with someone that does that on a quarterly basis? I mean, I think that... And now they're just sitting there slithering around and not banging? So, my male was smaller at the time. He wasn't... He's probably about that big. Now he's about this big. So, he's ready to breed. And he has been breeding with some of my friends' females. What's wrong with yours? Have you tail any? They're not big enough yet. Why would you get small ones? So, their genes correlate to dollar amounts. So I purchased higher quality snakes that were smaller. Who's gonna buy them? It would be other breeders.
27:11It is a pyramid scheme! It's just other breeders. Do you even know the other breeders? You know the breeder that gives it to you. And he uses your snake nut. Yeah, pretty much. He's in the loop. He knows other higher... In the loop? Dude, he pyramid sold you. He recruited you. He lives in Florida right now. He did move to Florida.
27:40I don't even know what to do with that. Why don't you just sell them and get out of it? I told him to do it. I would only get about half of what they did. Why? So their genes have depreciated in value. It's been a depreciating asset, yes. Oh my f***. How do you even know? I checked the market. I see like what genes that my snake's There's an app That we're nationally traded So you lied to me You told me that you made your research That everything was going to be okay And now right now you're saying that they decrease They have depreciated I don't even know You're just I've dug a pretty deep hole You're not starting businesses Your entrepreneurial mindset isn't starting businesses You just try to go down every little get rich quick scheme.
28:32That's what you are. You are attracted to whatever next get rich thing someone's going to point at you. You are going to take it. This is what you do. You're not a business owner. This is what I've been doing, yes. I really think that you just did it because your friend has more than $4 ,000 in snakes. It seemed like it was good. $40 ,000. Did you buy from that guy? No, I purchased from other breeders not from him and now you have a depreciating yeah they are depreciating assets even though they're closer to breeding they are closer to breeding so now if i if what's a when what's a little baby worth that you'd sell um with some with my with my males that with my male that i have right now and my females whenever they're all ready to breed i could have anywhere between 40 to 50 eggs a year and each one minimum would be 400 maximum could be anywhere between five to ten depending on if they get the correct genes but it's only going to go to other breeders or someone that's looking for pets i mean it's not granted the the pet market mostly goes to like petco or pets yes yeah and they're looking for just those little and you're not competing with them yeah i mean i could not going to i could sell to the um to the pet stores but it wouldn't be for probably about like 100 bucks a normal a normal Bob Python right now, like just standard skin is$40, 40, 50 bucks.
30:00But that's not the ones that I have. Minor, minor pie, desert ghost, just different, different gene types. This is so stupid. This is beyond stupid. All right, guys, I just need to see self-assess and then we need to get into these numbers. Self-assess. I'm going to go three, two, one, go on go. I want you both at the same exact time to give me what you think your household household financial score is zero being the worst 10 being the best what do you think it is household financial score yeah okay zero being the worst 10 being the best three two one one three oh she loves that number um okay why i'll take it i mean explain i mean i don't i don't go to work so i i'm okay at the house you got an eviction notice and you guys are spending more than double what you normally make in a monthly basis and the dude has snakes slithering around trying to make that as his pyramid scheme if you guys want your financial score take the quiz it's free it's fun to see where you stand the link in the description below if you guys want to come on the show as well and you're breeding snakes or whatever you're doing man come on the show calebhammer.com slash apply i'm curious i may as well just ask this because i mean people always ask out there about the process for coming on the show okay i'm yelling at you i'm making fun of you please tell us for people considering coming on the show are where you made fully aware of everything that was going to happen here i've seen episodes we've seen episodes we knew what we were getting into yeah and i mean we're just looking for guidance we're looking for what we can do and how we can get out of the hole yeah so you guys fully understand what you're getting into and the onboarding process was good yes okay so you can tell people to stop being offended on behalf of other people that aren't actually offended.
31:53I applied on Facebook Marketplace if that says anything to anybody. So I mean, look. Come on the show, guys. We'll see you here. It's not that hard of a process. And if you have a good enough story, by all means, Caleb's going to yell at you a little bit, but you'll be all right. Okay. This is a huge card of card balance. Chase Freedom card. So these are all in your name. Yes. So on here, we're sitting at$3 ,581. Chase Freedom, 44 cents. Huh? Chase Freedom Unlimited, yeah. That's our personal credit card. So what the f*** is this? This is a card that is accruing interest, but yet with the money that you put on it, you immediately put back on.
32:31The money that you pay, you immediately spend. Why? Why leave the f***ing balance honestly going up because the interest makes it go up? Why? You're over the f***ing credit limit. Why would you put yourself over the credit limit? Why are we spending... why would we spend money on a card that we cannot pull a fee off that is accruing interest but not only that why do you push it to where the interest would push it to above the credit limit why is that an action and a choice that we are doing do you guys want to have kids yes okay good so we probably shouldn't be pushing our credit cards to above a credit limit i don't know in my in my mindset i'm thinking and your your mindset has to be it's in the toilet for sure my mindset is not the best right now as far as the financial hole that i've dug my if you're recognizing that then why wouldn't you fix it so right now i mean yes we're fixing it we're in the process of attempting to fix it is uh you purchased and went over the credit limit if i'm spending the money i might as well get some points off of it your points what points are you getting point two like two points it's better than zero on a debit card no it's not because you're not gaining interest on a debit card are you stupid the interest the interest is still gonna go back up though no huh the interest is still gonna re-hit like if i don't yes but on a lower balance if you're spending on a debit card you're essentially lowering your interest from 30 to 28 because you're getting 2 cash back if you're even getting that if you're lucky cool or you can pay the balance down further and have 30 on a lower balance which would be better for you and not get 2 on your debit card purchases what the fuck am I glasses you know that math works I don't know I would rather have I don't know that that was that was just bad it was bad thinking honestly consistently yeah you're not just thinking you're endlessly doing it man in the mindset points I was thinking of the points that's what it was it was accruing 82 hours in interest you are above the credit limit by$81.
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36:01I mean, this is her version of, I mean, look, we came on the show. We need to figure some shit. And this is her avenue of letting it all out. Because I know that it's been fucking with her. What are you talking about? I told you every day about the off-truck. You made a bad decision. I can tell you here. I can tell you in the house. I don't care. It's a bad decision. It's been a bad decision after bad decision after bad decision. And I told you. But you, again, didn't give a fuck. Well, why don't you listen to her? It sounds like she brings up for every topic. I'm so how do these conversations go?
36:35Bad. Oh, go on. He's just like, OK, yes, I listen. OK, yes. And then he goes to bed and he wakes up and he's like, I didn't hear it. I'm going to do whatever I want to do. That wouldn't mean a long marriage is going to happen with that attitude. Yeah. Not wrong. I need to fix it. This is something that I need. I'm sorry, but that's just the way that everyone gets out when they consistently do bad things forever and then they get confronted. Yeah, I'm going to fix it. Like you sound like you're trying, you're saying something where you're acknowledging it, but it's not that. This is what every person does that tries to get out of something.
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38:29And if I am telling him like not do something. Why don't you listen to her? I do listen to her. It's just not in these situations, obviously. So put yourself in the shoes when you did not listen to her. Why? Why? I thought I knew better. I thought that I had the blueprint and that I was going to make everything work out. everything was going to be happy. Why do you always say that? You said that with the snakes. Now you're saying that with the truck. What's going to be next? I don't want there to be a next. I don't want there to be something to where we have to continue down this road. And what are we doing to not have a next one?
39:04To not have a next one? By now, thankfully, that the truck is in the process of getting fixed. In the process. Process of getting fixed. So I'll elaborate into that. So I purchased the truck about a year ago with the business. It was included in the credit card. Oh, that? Really? Okay. So it was included, obviously, pressure washers, need a truck to carry it around. So I purchased the truck. It's a 1996 Chevy S10. It's a four-cylinder, so it can't tow that much, but it gets really good gas mileage. So in my mindset, I'm thinking, oh, I'll get good gas mileage. I'll be able to go longer distances, save money on the gas, and be able to...
39:45The headlights were really dim, and the highway coming back from there doesn't have very many lights so i mean this sounds like a lot of excuses go ahead i mean i'm not even it's not even an excuse at that point like because i know i know that i f***ed up no what do you do then you pull the f*** over yeah well i had to i had to get back i can't you can uber you can pull over uber get it tomorrow that would have been like 100 bucks like 100 200 bucks that's better than what i assume is about to happen no well no i didn't wreck it it's it's still i drove i drove it here today i'm just saying it was it was it whenever I drove it back I knew that I was about to get into as because I see the headlights are a little fucked I'm like okay here we go this is something I'm gonna need to fix I get it back I park it in my buddy's house because I'm about to work on it as soon as I come back that morning there's transmission fluid on the ground I get it to a transmission shop you got to rebuild the whole thing how much is that gonna cost 2800 bucks you're gonna have a three-year warranty okay cool let's do it I get it done because obviously you can't drive around without a Where does this money come from?
40:46I had saved up. I had a decent savings saved up. I had a lot of money. Obviously, you see the statements. So you don't borrow money from anyone? No, I had a 770 credit score. I just had a long streak of just bad decisions. And that has put us into the point to where now I had to. So my engine blew up on the truck. So all in all, the truck has probably cost me about$7 ,000 for the fixes. and we owe his grandma for the engine yeah because she put it on a credit card you just told me you don't borrow from people that was before i'm talking about back whenever i had the money saved up i didn't what do i give a fuck about that what i'm sorry you're borrowing for grand i didn't i didn't understand the question i apologize what you think i'm asking about in the ancient myan temple don't give a fuck back then yeah i'm talking about now why do i care about what happened to you in middle school.
41:39I don't give a fuck. Oh my gosh, dude. So yeah, I did borrow from my grandmother. You just want to look good. You just say whatever is necessary to look good. I mean, you're not going to wiggle out of that, man. You got to confront your real shit. You're borrowing from grandama. Grandma. How much do you owe to grandma? Let's write that down. So right now I owe... So I have two different... How much? I owe$1 ,100. $1 ,100 to grandma. I thought I was going a thousand route. Even still, that is not great. I mean, from grandma, likely retired, right? And brother. How old's grandma? Grandma's 64. Grandma's 64.
42:19You're borrowing from a 60-year-old and she just said, and your brother? And uncle. Yeah, brother. What the f***ing else? Grandma is uncle. Grandma is uncle. The 1100 is what? Oh, yeah, well, I came from her. That doesn't look. She has access to his savings account. He goes to college full-time and... And he took from her? Him. She took from him? Yeah, she has access to it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Are you telling me that your grandma took from uncle? Yes. Does uncle know? Yes. Why didn't you borrow from uncle instead of from grandma to uncle? Well, I just put both of them in one name. I spoke to him in regards to it.
42:56No, no, no. Tell me how this worked. Okay. So... Oh, my f***. I don't give a f***. I'm talking about just the borrowing guy. The borrow, yes, the borrow, I had to borrow from them in order to get the truck. How? From grandma and uncle? You mean individually? No. So, look, uncle is the 1100. It came from his savings. She has access to his savings. I spoke to him. But he has drama. I spoke to him in regards to borrowing the money. Why did the grandma do it, though, instead of him? Because he's in Kansas. He's not, he doesn't. Oh, electronic transfers don't work in Kansas. Yeah. Venmo doesn't exist.
43:32What are you talking about? He's in Kansas. Why do I give a f*** about Kansas? Oh, they have corn, guys. They can't transfer money. Yeah, they can't transfer the money. No, it got through grandma. I spoke with him. He gave me the green light, and then I've been dealing with her. Dude, this is so weird. It is weird. And you pay her, and she pays him? Yes. Why? Why is she the middle man? That's just how it's working out right now. How much did you borrow total? This is insane. This is the stupidest thing. borrow total was uh was right at like 1500 1600 when uh whenever the truck when when about two three months ago oh and then and then brother so yeah brother brother brother is also your brother brother is uh about to be 20 and you're borrowing from a 19 year old yeah you are married to this look i'm not proud it's not something to be proud about listen that's again you're one or just one of those things that you're just you're acting like that oh you know what i'm acknowledging but i don't know you're it's you're one of those people that says that over and over again when they're confronted but then they continue the same path it always happens or else you would not be doing this stuff every other month guy so how much did you borrow from a 19 year old That was$600.
44:58How much is still owed? So we struck a deal on that. So I've been paying for his phone bill for going on two years. And I told him that since he is earning income, like he's making everything, and I'm obviously in the hole, I said, hey, man, I'll keep paying for your phone bill. And we'll just use that until we're paid up and current. So he's got 15 months of a paid phone bill. Kind of struck a deal with him. That's how that went down. because he doesn't really need the money right now he told me so he was like look that's fine how do you feel that your 19 year old brother is more successful than you i'm not proud of it it f***s me up trust me why don't you do anything instead of repeating the same mistakes over and over again i need i need a proper game plan we we need a proper game plan because i have to assume some responsibility to we we've been going on the spending front probably we've been going to cancun uh he's oh my gosh lady you seriously in the back of your brain must just have a bag full of insane things that you guys have and you are just dropping them like little pebbles but i I was working.
46:13I was helping him, too. It was just not only his money. It was mine, too. This was way before. How often are you guys going to Cancun? We've been three times. Over the course of... Buddy, you just got a foreclosure notice. Not foreclosure. An eviction notice. No more Cancun. I mean, we can't go now. We can. I cannot even go out of the United States even if I want to. She's here until we get the green card. No vacations in the United States. Yeah, we... No, we're not doing anything of that. We can't even afford it right now. We'd love to... You could have probably afforded that. It's a, it's a, yeah.
46:44How much did you guys spend going to King? Ooh. So each time was average. Thousand? Three. No. Three? Three thousand. No, I paid, but I paid the flights. That was after flights. Oh. Three after flights? So. Three thousand after flights. You are saying, you, you are saying there could be$9 ,000 invested growing over these past couple of years. Growing. growing at like 10 % average in the S &P 500. I could be buying that. You could have bought that you could have bought that in Moomoo. You could have opened up the Moomoo app. You could have bought S &P 500. That could have compound grew fucking S &P 500.
47:23Exponential growth. It has grown 50 % these last two years. 50%. 50%. Trust me. I look at the charts. I've seen it. Yet it all went off. Cancun. It went to trips. It was only three times. It was like. And I had my money. Oh my. My producers are telling me even something more. What? I can't. I can't even get through this because it's just like. It's just unraveled. It's just tidbits. You borrowed money from your brother because you didn't have rent money. But yet you still went to f***ing Cancun. That was before. This happened like two months ago. Cancun was way before. Oh, borrowing from brother?
48:06Yeah. Cancun was way before and we paid it like so it wasn't it wasn't borrowed from brother. I originally borrowed it from my mom Yeah, oh I originally had one of these again. She's brother. She transferred the debt She transferred to my to my brother. I just want to leave this conversations insane Just done here, man. I can't even fit myself. I can't even leave this This is oh I I'm gonna crawl away. No, just I can't. Every money thing you do is just the dumbest thing. So you borrow from your mom probably. What happened? So my mom ended up borrowing from my brother as well. And that's how the dead guy.
48:51Yeah. I need to check my blood pressure. I can't. Every time I try to keep it rolling, there's another unraveling of insanity. Inhale, exhale. Keep it breathing. keep it flowing you god the f*** have you how look man how has your family survived this many generations we're keeping it afloat so on the credit card that we talked about like 30 minutes ago yeah
49:26fit connects fit connect hulu mcdonald's going in and getting a drink at the gas station or something. Amazon Prime, Amazon. Fit Connect. What is this? That was$63 and$29 and$10. That's the fitness connection. That's the jam. You pay every time you go? No. Why are there three different charges on here? So the 63 was the annual subscription fee. That was just to get the application started. And then it was. You're just subscribing to this now. That's for her. I've been subscribing. Girl, you're almost getting kicked out of your house. That was way before. What floor do you guys live on? first. Are there other floors?
50:03Yes. Third floor. Go up and down! New Year's resolutions. I'm okay with the gym. Is it the fact that you're just choosing to start all this plus a new subscription now? That was an annual charge. We're not going to get that again. So currently we're at... Until the next annuals. Which I mean it's going to be... And then there was a$30 charge and then an $11 charge. Wait a$30 and$11? Yes. So the$30 was for her monthly and then the 11 is mine. I think monthly counts as a charge, you dumb s***. Okay. Yeah, monthly. Monthly, it's 40. Okay, then PlayStation, then Amazon, and then Prime Video. $43 of fees this year so far on here.
50:51What is this? Late payments over credit pay? Who even knows? But all I know is you're not using the... Late payments. What? Entrepreneur. Fuck.
51:10Just fucking dude. What are you? You don't have the money management skills to run a business. At this point. At any point so far. You've been trying it every fucking year for your life. You blew$20 ,000 in savings. Now you're borrowing from your family. Who's borrowing from your family? and$350 and$67 of interest. We're coming out of this. We can do it. In what world? You spent more than you made last month and even on a good month and you spent almost triple what you make on a normal month. Coming out of this? No, you're not. The fuck you're coming out of this? I don't give a shit. You're fucking destroying your life.
51:53Coming out of this? There's no coming out of this the way you're doing it. you're not coming out of anything but we could could if you do something but you guys don't we will need a double oh says what says what action possibly would suggest that you guys would come out of this saving so that we can get her process started for saving how about let's just start with spending less than we make oh you but you don't even do that so how are we saving if we spend more than we make What the fuck are you talking about? So I Currently what I'm doing is to make extra money I'm donating plasma Listen I'm okay with it If you want to do it I hate doing it just to survive Trust me I hate it too How much you get per plaz?
52:39So per plaz it's 47 the first donation And then it's 50 I think it's 53 the next one How often are you doing it? It's two times a week So it'll be an extra 400 and some change Look I'm willing to do whatever it takes To get us out of the hole I've never been scared of work ethic It's just a matter of Me putting us Newlyweds into the deepest hole I could have ever imagined Lots of acknowledgement No change in behavior Yes You donate plasma so I'll donate some things to you guys as well Go through the budgeting class together So you can learn how to use a budget budget. Take the quizzes together.
53:22Same with the debt class and the investment class. You guys understand all that well, eventually meet with a domain financial advisor. Same ones I use. You guys get a free session. Everyone in the audience gets a free session. Go through that. Get an accounting certification through course careers so you can do accounting for whatever next business you're going to do. And then sit down with a therapist at Sondermind. It's another one that we partner with you guys go to them together you guys get three free sessions okay so these are the resources that i get to provide you guys for free so do it definitely therapy all of it okay therapy first credit one we have credit one we have we have two we have two credit oh credit one that's just like the it's just like if i have credit one i have the worst finances ever created that's essentially what credit one means it's a badge of you honor it's the bottom barrel yeah yes it is and you're swimming down there constantly oh my body just rejected this basically at the credit limit 777 and 47 cents yep but the 295 of purchases on credit one why on credit one out of all credit cards why on credit one oh because you're already maxed out on the other car so we have to spend from somewhere and we have to spend more money than we make so it has to be on credit one.
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55:46But some of those purchases were groceries. This is from a f***ing restaurant. It's from a cafe. From Sonic driving. Going in and getting a drink. Going to Bearded Monkey. Going in and getting a drink. Who's stopping at the gas station and spending like$6,$7 constantly? $7 at the gas station? Yeah,$7 is a f***ing$8. It's probably me just putting a little bit of gas in the tank, honestly. Oh, my. Look, that month was rough. And then a little bit of groceries, but most of it was just f***ing around. If you can't spend money, you don't f*** around. No more taking the wifey out for a nice little treat.
56:27Interest and fees accruing, of course. Chop this up. Close your credit cards. You are not a credit card person. I used to be. Not anymore. Oh, f*** you. It doesn't matter. I don't care. Not anymore. It doesn't matter if you were. It just feels like it can't get worse, but somehow it just... Somehow it does, man. Somehow it does. You know what sucks is you guys are actually quite pleasant people. I enjoy you guys as human beings, but this is so f***ed and so stupid.
57:03So credit one, number two. No,$624. Okay, good. At a 600 credit limit. For real? I didn't know that. Again, these conversations around finance, how do they go? Can someone explain to me how these go? So honestly, it just kind of boiled down to the point that like, we had to pay a card. We didn't have the money to pay the card. So we used another card. The conversations around money, how do they go was the question. honestly it's just trying to make it happen we i tell her i'm like look babe no we can't we can't spend i tell her i can't spend this we can't spend this we're not gonna be able to afford this crumble cookies necessity uh-huh in museum grandis texas roadhouse gotta shove those rolls down your throat that's pro store they were going in and getting some in the gas station.
58:00Whataburger. Fees, fees, fees, fees. Roll it up. It's all just, this is fucking bullshit. It's not even on the necessities. It's not necessities and you're saying I literally have no money. I'm just trying to survive. You would at least have a little bit of sympathy for me, but there is nothing because Whataburger does not fucking count. What a joke. it seemed like a necessity at the time but it didn't work out you're never f***ing changing why why this huh cause I love him why you don't know him I'm getting to and so far don't like well but I do
58:44thank you I love you I love you too baby Chase Inc great that's the business card yes what how would you make the minimum monthly payments so i've been paying i i struck a deal with them so i've been paying 50 bucks a month just oh for goodness because the minimum was six thousand five hundred they've called they were calling me very consistently saying hey you got to pay four thousand come on let's do that and i was like yeah i can't do that but so seven thousand seven hundred twenty five dollars and eighty six cents which is an insane balance for you insane balance Oh, past due amount,$6 ,535.
59:25What the f***, dude? And now you're going to have this$50 minimum payment that's going to make no progress towards it. And then interest is going to be... Oh! Fee$731! Fee$731! That's insane fees! That's insane fees! And$258 of interest! That's insane fees! It's...
59:57This is so dumb. I don't get it. This is so stupid.
1:00:04Just why? Why weren't you making your payments when they were smaller? That way it would just be normal. Trips. Oh, what a child. What a baby. What a baby. Want to have a baby with a baby? What the f***? What are we doing? You actually give a s***? Yes. Then why haven't you done anything? Not one thing. Why haven't you manned up the f*** once or adulted up the f*** once? Ever. I need to get out of it. I need to get out of the illusions. That's not an answer. I'm asking why you didn't. Why I didn't do it? I lived in a blur. And what has possibly changed? Getting married. When did you guys know you were going to get married?
1:00:49Pretty much since we met. Honestly. We didn't have an exact date. So that would have changed two years ago then. We didn't have an exact date, but we knew we were going to get married. Okay, so getting married shouldn't have changed anything then. Yeah. So give me a real answer. What's actually going to change? Why is it changing? Stopping all the spending? Why? Why does it need to change? No, you said it's going to change. I'm saying, why? I just. It's not going to change. It's not going to change. I just lost. It's not going to change because it's not going to change. He doesn't have a reason why it's going to change.
1:01:27There is not an actual reason why it's going to change. And he is just getting... We're not having children. Shut up. We're not having children yet. Not yet. No. That's the goal. We're going to make it happen. Sure, but that's the problem. When have you guys decided you were going to have children? We were hoping for 25. 20s. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When did you guys have the conversation that we will have children? Eventually. Early in our relationship. Good. So again, you've already known that. So why now? that's again a bulls**t response the marriage you already knew having children you already knew so why would this change now you have no real answer you try to pull it out of your ass so nothing is actually going to change you don't have a why and without a why there's nothing there's nothing why sacrifice without a why there's no reason why live a harder life in order to get someone better if there is no better why there's no why at all i made a promise to her that i was never going to have an eviction notice put on her door okay ever again ever again there was a one and done that's you've made lots of promises guy you probably promised never to join a pyramid scheme after your fourth pyramid scheme then you joined your eighth i have i have been exactly so again i can no longer believe i can't believe you i cannot it's impossible so i got convinced by a insurance company to join in i thought that was going to be the right way but obviously wait for what What are you talking about?
1:02:51Health insurance. He was working in there. What are you talking about? It's a company. I don't know if I can say names. You don't have to. Basically, it was a company that had the premise of we will sell you life insurance. You'll get a premium, but you'll be helping make sure that they're taken care of. Who? PHP. People helping people. it's a conglomerate owned by patrick bed david it's basically a big ass mlm i went in there with the intention of oh i'm gonna make really good money off of this didn't work out i seen the writing on the wall how are you going to make money by selling insurance that's how it was gonna be oh i wish i just had no morals this show just demonstrates every way that i could just go make so much more money than this show produces i could just and scam the out of people you could gosh so easy there's so many scams out there there's so many people like you who fall into them yeah my gosh it would just be the easiest thing in the world morals man gosh because what is this why am i seeing this under credit 487 dollars what is that the that's a apple that's apple credit card why do i have the statement in front of me huh huh huh whoa how what why do i have the statement in front of me that's gs bank that's that's apple yeah why do i have the statement in front of me i don't i sent the pdf of the apple statement i thought i did no okay well here you want it yes got you it's been maxed out for a while great i got you here one second What's the minimum monthly?
1:04:42Oh, good. It's gone up. It's gone up and we are now over the credit limit. Did you know that? Another card. Yes, that's funny. That's great. That's hilarious. Our lives are in shambles and we're never going to get anywhere or accomplish anything. And everything's a complete joke. Ha ha ha ha ha. $503.18. I was not laughing because it was funny. Sometimes you get nervous. Yeah, there it is. Purchases. Dude, it's fucking. Elsadora. is that to someone or is that a restaurant let me see elsadora okay no yeah it's a spotify that's spotify yes that was a spotify subscription that we paid we paid we paypal paid okay for a year paid something else then an apple bill then kroger so that the second netflix the second paypal was for christmas and then underdog sports what's that so that was a bet i made a bet on you made a bet on a credit card and maxed out so listen lady your husband that you are considering having children with maxes out credit cards go over his credit card limit in order to bet on sports this is a joke what's your minimum monthly payment dude tell me probably 60 60 70 bucks right now to get to get interest
1:06:07$25 $25 yes
1:06:14this is disgusting I'm disgusted this is nasty how the are you even okay with this what is this student loans it is you went to college for a second maybe I was almost you do everything so I have I almost have my associate's degree. I'm about six credits away from having my associates. But obviously being married and working full time, couldn't do that. Okay,$2 ,250. There's more. There's more student loans. I think that's a stack in there. It's about$5 ,000. $5 ,000 is some change. In your minimum monthly payments? I don't know off the top of my head. Do you pay them? No, I haven't made payments on those.
1:06:57Are they due? I don't believe so. No. Why? I haven't Did you request the ferment? No, I haven't Did you try to get onto a different payment plan? No, they're too late advantage When did you stop? When did you stop going to college? Right before we got married Oh, okay, so the minimum of the payments will kick in You better pay for it It's probably going to be about March or April probably this year It's probably going to be about
1:07:3050 bucks a month okay
1:07:36what a joke what an absolute joke wait hold on 2250 2340 and an additional over a thousand no It's more like$4 ,000, guy. And the minimum payment is going to be like$60. I don't even know your own numbers. I said$5 ,000. Yeah, it's like, oh, you said$5 ,000? I said$5 ,000, yes. Okay, it's like$5 ,000. So we're probably talking about, yeah, like$60,$70. I'm going to be more conservative and say$70. Okay. Oh, my gosh.
1:08:19What are we looking at? There's no future here. Why do I have a starting and ending balance of negative in this checking account? What the f***? Which one is that? Chase. I have two bank accounts. Business! Yeah, Chase Business. Oh, okay. I had probably transferred the money to the checking. Yeah, but why more than this f***ing in there? You went negative. You started negative,$5 ,000 came in, and then you went out. Why? Why would you allow out? It went between Christmas and Yes, but why not keep at least 30 more back? You were negative$15 Why be negative? I had it on the plasma card That's where I had the extra money at Huh?
1:09:04Why'd you pull more money out? That's what I'm asking I probably transferred it to the other Why? I don't know I just had to pay something Oh my goodness, dude You're insane and it's just Appleville. Little Caesars are f***ing negative for Little F***ing Caesars. Pizza. Oh, is that what Little Caesars is? Pizza. Fast Pro Shop. Pizza, pizza. Appleville, shut the f*** up. You're not funny. AT Apple Draws,$600. Who knows where the f*** that went in? Marshalls. Marshalls. To size up from all our Little Caesars for f***ing sake. Those are for gifts. All so that we could be negative. Negative. Leave this man now.
1:09:46he's a financial joke he's gonna ruin your entire future we're gonna turn this around no you're not I'm sorry I wanted to give you benefit of the doubt no you're not your behavior suggests nothing your comments suggest nothing the way you've just been re-evolving and you're like I'm an entrepreneur no you fall for every scam known to mankind you're done oh good here's a nice little overjaffee in the other checking account well done in the other checking accounts. So let's do that in multiple checking accounts, guys. Yeah, because you were negative.
1:10:21You started negative$188. Progressive insurance. And then it went worse because you tried to do something in overdraft. What a f***ing joke. An Apple bill. An Apple bill. An Apple cash set out. Texas Roadhouse. Great. more Apple Cash shout out we Apple's to cash everything in our life and Murphy Express we went in and we got some bull Amazon and Amazon and Rays and Gains and PayPal and Amazon and Zellen on and Zellen out and Zellen out overdraft this year so far you've done approximately five of them in just this checking account the other one you also were overdrafting so this this this is this is this is no, there's nothing.
1:11:17There's nothing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Financially, yes, we could change this around because we could probably make the numbers work. It doesn't matter because his behavior will never change. He is a joke of a wannabe entrepreneur and falls into this bullshit constantly. Is able to take no responsibility or give no reason why he's willing to move forward. It's a f***ing joke. I can make a budget every day, all day, but it doesn't matter because his behavior hasn't changed. I can make the numbers work, but it doesn't matter.
1:11:58And you're okay with this? You accept this? You're okay with this? I mean, I love him. And we're going to make it work. He's not going to change anything. He is. You're with the future ex that you're like, wow, he never changed anything, but I kept giving him a chance. I'm going to make a change. I hope so. Nothing would suggest as much. Numbers on paper. It's just numbers on paper. Exactly. And I'm saying the numbers on paper here don't matter. It's your behavior that you will never change because you haven't. And you don't have a reason to change. I asked you. You couldn't give me one. $334 minimum fee payment.
1:12:41What's the rent again? $1 ,320? $1 ,320.99, yes. Utilities? $150. Electricity. The rest are included in the$1320. Internet? $60. Any car payments? I don't think so. No. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive? $200. Car insurance? $168. You know your numbers. Again, this is a behavior. Phone bill? 140. Switch to healing when you're done with your brother. Save that f***ing money. 15 bucks a month. Same service as T-Mobile. TP fund. 150 for the house. Anything you need to survive. Necessary food. We're going to do 500. Follow the meal plan. Follow the meal plan. We're pretty good about cooking at the house.
1:13:30No, you're not. You've got to eat every second of your life. Shut the f*** up, dude. All right. But I prefer his laundry day. What's the gym? The monthly gym? You said$40? Yeah. I should say$45. Medical health care? Provided through. Yeah, but is there any co-pays on an ongoing basis? No. Company paid. Pet insurance? Anything? Do we have pets? We have one dog. Okay,$40 pet insurance. How much for pet food? $50. $50 monthly. Small dog? He's 50. He's a Staffordshire Terry. anything else that needs to be in this budget that I have not taken account for no nothing that I can think of can you just my loan but like it was it's 300 yeah she has a$300 loan to what personal personal who uh where I when I used to work they were taking the money out of my paycheck because I had to.
1:14:33You were getting garnished. But now that I don't work and I don't have that big account anymore. Never mind, the numbers don't even work. $3 ,491.69 is what you need to bring in. Sorry, he's going to go work a thousand other jobs which he actually might do but he needs to cut his spending well at the same time because he needs to bring in a minimum extra $1 ,500 a month net in order to make any progress on this. But he's never going to change the paper so this is dumb. But I'm going to do the budget to be good guy but it doesn't matter anyway spending a budget overspent zero ten debt this is stupid and there's no collections or irs that one out of ten this is about the family debt that's gonna bring it down to a one emergency fund there's nothing in savings zero out of ten retirement i don't see anything zero out of ten real estate zero ten and we're financial score 0.5 out of ten guys come join us in the post show that's where we reveal extra things and extra drama stuff that we didn't or can't talk about in the main show so make sure to join our youtube membership thousands of hours of extra content link below and you can also take advantage of all of our education bundled together for 15 off i'll see y 'all in the post show are you blaming me i'm not blaming you i'm just saying i used to be really good at saving and then i just kind of like and what you met her that's what you're saying my mom paid for a majority of the wedding the mom who had to borrow from your brother that's what made her need to borrow is borrowing from your 18-year-old uncle?
1:15:53She wanted the wedding. I didn't even want a wedding. What did she spend on your wedding? It was about$5 ,000 total. I just want his thoughts on all this crazy family loan stuff. Hey, do you want to talk to Caleb?
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