Pathetic Brat Thinks Shes Hot Sh*t | Financial Audit

14 Mar 2025 · 1 h 30 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: Financial Audit - "Pathetic Brat Thinks She's Hot Sh*t"

Episode Overview In this episode, host Caleb Hammer conducts a financial audit of Mikayla, a 23-year-old Starbucks supervisor from Seattle. The discussion revolves around her financial habits, excessive spending, and how these issues are affecting her relationship with her boyfriend, who has set a condition for marriage: she must get her finances in order first.

Key Themes and Takeaways

  • Excessive Spending: Mikayla admits to spending more than she earns, often using credit cards for non-essential purchases and luxuries.
  • Financial Awareness: Despite her high spending, Mikayla shows a lack of understanding of her financial situation, struggling to track her expenses accurately.
  • Relationship Dynamics: Her financial irresponsibility and lack of accountability create tension in her relationship with her boyfriend, who is concerned about their future together.
  • Dependency and Entitlement: Mikayla's mindset reflects a sense of entitlement regarding her lifestyle, indicating a reluctance to prioritize financial stability.
  • Financial Education: Caleb emphasizes the importance of budgeting and understanding personal finance, offering resources and tools to help Mikayla regain control of her finances.

Detailed Discussion Points

Mikayla’s Financial Situation

  • Income: Mikayla earns an average of $24 to $27 per month but spends around $3,526 monthly, resulting in significant overspending.
  • Spending Habits: She mentions enjoying luxury items and experiences, prioritizing these over saving and budgeting.
  • Credit Card Debt: Mikayla has multiple credit cards, often maxed out, leading to high-interest payments and fees.
  • Awareness of Debt: Despite acknowledging her debt, Mikayla struggles to take actionable steps to manage it effectively.

Relationship Challenges

  • Boyfriend’s Ultimatum: Her boyfriend will not propose until she gets her finances in order, causing friction in their relationship.
  • Communication: Mikayla expresses a desire for independence but fails to recognize the impact of her spending on their future together.
  • Influence of Past Relationships: Mikayla discusses her past boyfriends and how her experience of financially supporting them has shaped her current behavior.

Financial Education and Tools

  • Simpler Budget App: Caleb introduces his budgeting app aimed at simplifying personal finance management. He stresses its importance for Mikayla in tracking her spending and making informed financial decisions.
  • Educational Courses: Caleb offers bundled educational programs on budgeting, debt management, and investing, emphasizing the need for financial literacy.

Key Quotes

  • "You can't rely on your boyfriend to save anything."
  • "Your actions are leading to a future where you won't be able to get engaged."
  • "You are choosing your desire for sweet treats over your engagement."

Conclusion The episode serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of financial responsibility, the impact of spending habits on personal relationships, and the necessity of financial education. Mikayla's story highlights common pitfalls in personal finance, making it clear that awareness and accountability are crucial for achieving financial stability and a healthy relationship.

Resources Mentioned

  • [Simpler Budget App](https://calebhammer.com/app)
  • [Caleb’s Financial Courses](https://calebhammer.com/classpack/)

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This episode underscores the idea that financial habits shape not only one's economic future but also personal relationships. By engaging in an honest conversation about finances, listeners can learn valuable lessons about budgeting, prioritizing financial goals, and the importance of commitment to self-improvement.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. I have gone through a lot of different boyfriends and I finally found the one. I want to be independent in a way I don't need to rely on him. You gotta take care of your lazy ass and spoiled s*** who won't stop spending money they don't have. I can't stop. Stop what? Spending, treating myself. No s***, he's taking care of it. Can't rely on you to save anything. No, I deserve it. I'm worth it. Download my new Simpler Budget app today and take control of your money once and for all. Hi, I'm Mikayla. I'm 23 years old. I'm from Seattle and this is Financial Audit.

0:41Thanks for coming in from Seattle. That's a far little journey. What do you do for a living up there? I'm a supervisor at Starbucks. Of course you are. That is the Seattle core as it gets. Starbucks can actually be a pretty damn good place to build a career sometimes. I know they're going through lots of union things and some places getting shut down and lots of Starbucks layoffs actually just got announced this week like a thousand people yeah I saw that in corporate so how much are you making um I make 23 64 in Seattle 23 and for a manager um well I'm just a shift supervisor shift supervisor how many hours a week do you work I want 40 but I get more like around 30 um why why do you think well i could work at different stores yeah why wouldn't you i don't drive so that kind of like keeps me in my little area transportation where you are well it's okay a little unsafe um but how unsafe well what are we going to use that as an excuse like i don't i know you're in like a big radius because we're not going to give a specific location but yeah i'm gonna need to i mean i used to use it a lot more um right now my specific area where i'm at is kind of on how far away is another store how many miles um if you drove how many minutes would it be well if you drove 13 cool i bet an uber ride would pay for the extra you know 10 20 hours you pick up a week yeah well so there we go i've solved your issue yeah

2:15okay i so what's so why do you settle for that well i've worked at the other stores in my area they kind of suck um honestly they're not supervisor make them better right well i tried i worked on one of them for two years actually and left because it was so horrible but um and the other one my store was getting remodeled i had to go to and it was yeah just an experience I did not have fun at. So how much comes in through payroll on a monthly basis? Well, I think it kind of fluctuates up and down because I get tips on my paycheck. Yeah. So they tip into the store and then it gets evenly distributed?

2:52Yeah. So cash. And then also they just introduced like the credit card tipping in the last couple years. So yeah. That has actually increased so much like our tips. Like I get an extra like$500. We all feel obligated. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Literally everywhere. um but yep and it's awkward like in the drive-thru we have to like pass them the thing and i'm like there you go i was gonna ask you a couple questions uh-huh great yep you're one of those wonderful we all love that cool so what hits your account on a monthly basis normally average about 24 okay i had 27 oh okay cool but 24 is average yeah a little over because i think um i have been working a bit more um like well it's changed the hours um like fluctuate like um just how busy we are and how much like um the store like gets allocated for labor okay so you made 27 but let's just say you make 24 normally but whatever we had a little if you make more a month maybe you're a lot to spend more maybe we're a lot to put more savings that's okay how what did you spend in the last month all of it no what did you spend in the last month um probably 2800 so you're okay with spending 100 hours more why would you say that why would you do that if you know you spend more why are you okay with that i'm not okay with it then why do you do it because that is an action that you're doing yeah um i can't stop um i don't know can't stop what is can't stop i don't want to Stop what?

4:27Spending, treating myself, having fun. Okay, no, it was$3 ,526, by the way. So it was completely f***ed. Like, it wasn't even close. Even though you made more, you still spent$800 more than came in. And you spent$1 ,100 more than normally comes in. So can't stop leads to an extra$800? That's a lot of can't stop. How do you not know the number? I don't know. Honestly, I'm really surprised it was that high. I think maybe Christmas. I don't know. Christmas. No, we're beyond Christmas. We're beyond Christmas. I've heard that a lot in these talks. We're at the end of February. We're beyond Christmas.

5:08Christmas is done. Yeah. Why are you here? What's going on? Well, my boyfriend will not propose to me until I get my finances in order. That's not how we want to start a marriage. A time crunch. How long have you guys been together? About three years. Yeah? Yeah. And we've lived together now for over a year. And we just signed it. Yeah, he's in the lobby. Really? So we just signed a two-year lease together, actually, like last month. Have you guys lived together? For a year already. So in the same place, we just extended our lease. So he'll share a contractual agreement with you, but. Okay. And a marriage.

5:44I mean, that's fair. If you don't get your. But you spent$800 more than you brought it in on last month. or$1 ,100 more than you normally do. So obviously you give a shit more. You don't give a shit about the marriage. You don't give a shit about the proposal. You care more about sweet treats than the marriage. I mean, that's what your actions are leading to. So what do you mean that that's why you're here? I can't stop you. I can get you a tool.

6:09You spent$800 more than you brought in. Yes, you can get a sweet treat together. Maybe he pays for it. Yeah. Maybe you pay for it within a budget. I mean, I don't. What are you talking about? Yeah. I don't know. To be honest, I think I'm embarrassed by spending that much. And I just, yeah. Then why haven't you changed anything? Because that's a lot of cop-out talk. That's a lot of like, oh, I know I am. I'm just embarrassed. Yeah. Why? Why are you? Dig deep. Well, I want... To have something to work with. I have gone through a lot of different boyfriends and I finally found the one that I want to be with.

6:48And I think this is what I need to do to get my life together. And why are you just flying through? I guess we all fly through different people until we find our one. I don't. How does that impact this? What a statement. So me and a boyfriend met in high school. Ex-boyfriend. Wait, you're 23. OK, so like five years ago. Yeah. um so probably we're around 16 he was actually um i was a sophomore he was uh senior and that's what twitter will say yeah um but we i don't know at least i wasn't a freshman um so he actually got expelled um right after we met and he would like come to meet me at the school oh maybe he actually is a pdf um yeah uh maybe uh so he was just overblown how did what did he get expelled for that i guess has nothing to do with this but bringing brass knuckles to school what the f**k it's seattle he never worked our whole relationship um even though he was a sophomore he was a senior i don't okay so i took care of him our whole relationship you a sophomore you took care of him well i worked two jobs as soon as i turned so because you took care of him now you're okay with your fiance taking care of you and not putting in the sacrifice necessary to get to the place where he would actually become a real fiance.

8:15Is that what you're trying to say? Or what are you trying to say here? No, I'm just saying that. I mean, that would be nice. But that's not my end goal. That's not what he's looking for. Or else he would have popped the ring. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Are you guys aligned on what you're looking for? I guess we can maybe bring him in at some point. I don't know. Yeah, well, we're pretty aligned, like I think. Are you sure? Because you aren't changing the habits that are preventing you from doing the thing that you both want to do. And then you just told me it would be nice if he just took care of you.

8:53Why are you talking about this ex-relationship? What does it have to do? What? Well, I just, I spent so much money on him that like that's kind of where. How? A sophomore in high school? Well. A sophomore in high school is where all your debt came from? What are you talking about? I was working like two jobs and like as a sophomore in high school yes okay and so I dropped out um every year of high school actually you dropped out of high school yes every year um yeah my freshman year I was actually you just go back and they're like okay yeah yeah pretty much freshman year I moved to a different state um from Connecticut to Washington and just stopped going the last like four months um but they passed me on to the next grade when you came back yeah and So is this like a cheat code that you could just like drop out?

9:37Connecticut education was a little bit more advanced than what the Seattle requirements were. So they actually had no problem moving me along. I don't know. The high school I went to was not that nice. Not in a good area. You're blaming this for how you got in debt as a sophomore. I'm so confused on that. So I would. Please say what you're trying to say. Sorry. Maybe I'm just interrupting you. No. Okay. What are you trying to say? So I basically just took care of this ex since I was 16, had two jobs, gave him all my money. He would have my card, spend on it. You would just spend on your card? Yeah, he had my card.

10:12A senior, an ex-spelli would use their sophomore girlfriend that works two jobs and just spends all her money? And I just kind of thought he loved me. So I thought it was okay. Because my ex had pretty much stolen all my money from me, it was really hard to kind of move on from that. Okay. So he had a drug addiction. Which one? My ex-boyfriend. Well, hold on. It sounds like I don't know which one is an ex-boyfriend. Sorry. So the one I was with out of high school. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So he had like a drug addiction going on. Perk. Oh. And his mom was also doing it with him. It was kind of a screwed up situation.

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12:23I had given him my card to go and get groceries or something from the store and all of the money off my account was gone. And I had like no idea what happened. He came home, completely denied it, said he just bought the groceries that he had brought home. and so I called Safeway and I was like where is my money like what's going on like this transaction was hundreds of dollars and my boyfriend did not spend that much and so they were kind of investigating told me to like come back in and they showed me the footage of like him at the self-checkout getting the cash really yeah and were these like casted fans advances from a credit card?

13:12No, this was like my checking account at the time. Like, cause I think I was probably too young. So again, I'm a little confused why this is a, I'm in my debt because of this situation, because it doesn't sound like, it sounds like he was a person. This doesn't sound like any reason that you're here though. Yeah. Well, so three, and then I was opening a lot of credit cards at that time when we had moved in together. So you were 18 at least. Yeah. I was 18 when I opened probably four or five credit cards. If you broke up with him four years ago, why haven't we fixed anything since then? Especially now that we've been in a relationship for three years with someone who wants to marry you, but won't because you want to get together because you're prioritizing sweet treats over him.

13:52Why haven't you fixed a single thing? I want to, but it's just like... Do you want to though? Because I talk about this and you immediately go to stories from five years ago. Do you want to? Because your actions aren't showing you want to. You spent$100 more than you brought in,$1 ,100 more than you normally bring on a monthly basis. What do you mean you want to? You know you spend more money. You acknowledge that you thought you spent$100 more than you make on a monthly basis. Want to? Not seeing want. Where's the want? No, you want sweet treats. That's what you're doing. What do you mean want?

14:21You know what the word want means? I mean, but I also just want to live a good life, and I want to be able to live my - Would marriage be a good life? Yes, but I'm also young and in my 20s. Like I want to be able to do what I want. So you're prioritizing that over him. You would rather have that. Not necessarily. Should we tell him that? Should we bring him in and you tell him that? No. Because that's what you're doing. And that's what you're saying right now. I mean, I feel like you can have a little bit best of both worlds. Like we do a lot of things together. We go on trips together. Sure. But you're talking about your independence.

14:53That's what you were just talking about. You weren't talking about together. You only brought up together once I pushed back against you. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, I think because I've been in relationships since I was so young, like it can feel good to think about doing things on my own as well. Like I want to be in a relationship. I want to be married. But independence is good, too. I agree. It's important to have like, you know, good independence here and there. And absolutely. But again, you are choosing that over your togetherness completely. Yeah. Because it is one or another. And at least this ultimatum that's been given to you.

15:28and you are choosing that. I think, yeah, it's just been hard. So you do not want to. And if you do, it's a small want. And obviously your want of yourself and individualism is higher. I mean, I don't think so. Like I want to be with him. How? I just also want to spend money. Okay, but you want that more because that's what you're doing. You're choosing that over. Yeah, there we go. You just admitted it. Should we tell him? I can't deny because obviously the numbers show. So we should tell him. So we should tell him. No. I think we'll eventually have to tell him. Where do you think you are in the world of finances?

16:04Zero to ten, zero being the absolute worst, ten being the absolute best. Where do you think you are today, self-assessed? Probably two. Okay. If you want your Hammer Financial Score, go to the link in the description below. You can go to calebhammer.com and check out where you are in the world of finances. It's free. It's a fun little quiz, and we assess you there. If you want to come on the show, come down to Austin, Texas, and get a little financial beating. have a good time uh just go ahead go to calebhammer.com slash apply we'd be happy to have you here okay alta oh my gosh what is it why people that go to alta man people that go to alta what's so good you're above the credit limit so good that's good geez every time anyone goes to altar has an altar card you know it's about to be a episode so good and you'd rather be over again you're choosing alta over him but i'm choosing alta over him beauty you're choosing your beauty over your guys being together my beauty so it's like i think he likes you for you or else he wouldn't be willing to propose true but i just think that's it i don't beauty is great do it I want you to feel confident.

17:20I want you to feel great.

17:24You're over the credit limit. What the fuck are we doing if we're over the credit limit? That's a completely different world we live in versus you paying it off for even having a little balance. I wouldn't suggest. I wouldn't support that, but you're over the limit. I do have a little balance. Well, guess what? You don't. You're over the credit limit. I pay the minimum every month, and then it takes out the fees or whatever, and then I have$60 to spend. That's so horrible. I spend it every month. Hey, hey, because the interest on here is so f***ing. And it doesn't matter regardless because you purchased$71.17.

17:58Huh? Well, that's still something. Huh? Like you can buy some f***ing$17. No, you're over the credit limit, you dumb tits. That's what I am saying. Well, yeah. And no, that is not acceptable. That is what a child does. okay you owe one thousand seven hundred forty one dollars and ninety cents on a thousand seven hundred dollar credit limit great i'm glad we're choosing this over him it's important that you keep realizing that actual reality with an 88 minimum monthly payment which by the way these will stack up like crazy how long does this take to pay off just minimum payments without purchases what you're incapable of but go ahead maybe six years okay it takes six years yes and of course it's all to and it's all i mean it's just so we're gonna play easy and it's just like it is easy that means you can't be your brows done you can go get uh your hair done i used to have pink hair i got it done there oh wow and it was so easy like easy who gives a look it didn't stick around anyway now you're blonde is it a fake blonde we'll never know who gives a doesn't matter only you acknowledge it doesn't matter no one gives a who cares about the little purple above your eye i care about you guys being able to live a good life together and not become one of the criminals that you're afraid of when you ride public transportation in your area apparently so let's play a little game gonna bring out i just want to assess your level of desire for actually purchasing.

19:33All right. Some little brushes and stuff, right? Yes. Very exciting. We know you got this. Here, don't flip it over. You go ahead. Tell me. Tell me right there what you think that is worth to you in terms of a financial amount that you will spend on it. Tell me. Go ahead. Like a number? Yes, a number. Okay. What else would you put?

20:01Okay, you would spend$12. Here, we got a little creamage. We're creaming. We got some visibly smooth pores. So exciting. What would you spend on this? She says$40. Here, here we go. We got some twinkle strips. You're going to have to tell me what this is that you got. It's like highlighter, and then you can also put it on your eyes. Multipurpose. How much would you spend on that? Very important. $20. That's what it's worth to you. That's what it's worth to you. That's the max you'll spend on it? Yeah. Okay. Here's mascara. Well. Yeah, what's the max you'd spend on that? That's just like the mini one.

20:42What's it worth to you? Sure, what's it worth to you? Okay. What's your max you'd spend on it? Go ahead. What is it? Okay. So the max you'd spend on these little Morphe brushes are$12. First of all, you spent$28 on it. You know that? Know that? No. I almost don't believe that. Okay, listen. You do not get to leave the studio, neither does your boyfriend, until you download the Simpler Budget app because at least you guys get the premium version for free. They get a multi-week trial, but you get it for free. It will automatically tell you how much you spend on Lush. You can have a Lush category and it will automatically connect to your accounts and tell you, okay?

21:24Then there's the community functionality in there where you can chat with other people and start your own threads, ask questions, all that stuff. Yes, you can start on Altithread because there are people absolutely in there. Absolutely. Use the automatic features. We want to make it the best budgeting app we can. So, f***ing download it. It's like the easiest thing you could possibly do. So, you spent$28. Are you willing to spend$28 on this? No, that's pretty sad. Are you willing to spend$208 on it? No. No? Well, that's what you're f***ing doing. Because after the interest accrues with your minimum monthly payments that you put towards it, mathematically oh in the end you are spending 208 on these dumb little brushes yeah that's right 40 it's the most you'd spend on this right oh yeah 44 is what you spent are you okay with that i mean yeah yeah 283 how about that because that's what you're actually spending on it 283.

22:22You okay with that? No, I'd rather have a much nicer one than 283. Yeah, I agree. Guess what? This is what you're actually doing, though. This is where your decisions are leading you. Yeah. $20 on this f***ing highlighter thing. You nailed it. $20. How much do you think you're actually spending on it, though? In reality, actual math. 140. 148. Correct. And you're okay with that? No. How many could you get in that? huh huh how many could you get how often you have to replace this well how many have to replace this no maybe like every six months cool you could get 7.4 of these 7.4 and we're okay with it okay you are okay with spending 15 you sent 16 that's okay how much did you actually spend how much you actually spending on this

23:15170 119 119

23:21another 7.4 math works out either way you could be getting so much but you're choosing not to you're choosing to delay everything and it's pointless you're also choosing to delay your engagement yeah I mean I the numbers are hard to look at I mean, the damage is done. I don't know. I mean, I bought like a Dyson hair dryer. There's$500 on there. The damage isn't done. You're fucking doing the damage. But I use it every day. The damage is done. The damage isn't done. Exactly. You use it every day. The damage isn't done. No, no, no. You're spending every day across the board on all these. We're going to go through so many documents here.

24:12The damage isn't done. The damage is getting done. you're above the credit limit you're above the credit limit the damage isn't done the damage isn't done until this card is paid off because you're accruing interest on it the damage is endlessly hitting you this is endless damage dude yeah it's just it's just nice to have these things like it's like it sure is and you could have had 7.4 of them for the price you're paying for them over time. I'd say that's nicer. I'd say you being able to get engaged is nicer. Well, this is pretty f***ing exciting for the world of financial audit. Something big, Mar.

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25:28And remember, anyone who signs up for the annual version of the app at a massive discount, you also get shipped this simpler budget notebook, which will be personally signed by me. So check it out. Download simpler budget today. I mean, I just feel like it's worth it to me. Like, I love these things. Like, not as much as I love my boyfriend, but it just makes me happy. Like, and why wouldn't you want to be happy? This is my hobby. Where'd you put just a f***ing blow dryer? On where? yes at ulta so five hundred dollars and we know how this math works out yeah you spent three thousand seven hundred on that total because and you definitely haven't hit that totally yet but that's what it's going to cost over the course of forever especially when you're over the credit card limit and no you don't prefer your boyfriend over this you're not putting him over this or else you would put him over this the damage is endless man it's the interest accruing it's the fees accruing no no fee this month but you're about to get them the interest last year alone was five hundred thirty dollars and it's only gonna get worse it's just so addicting to spend like just go in there grab a basket and just fill it up with what exactly i see your little sweet treat and i know but guess what that is why you are not a credit card person you cannot have credit cards you can't have access to other people money but i also just I don't have the money to buy a$500 blow dryer.

26:59Which means you cannot afford it. But I want it. You do want it, but if you can only use other people's money to afford something, you cannot do it because you're delaying your entire life. You are f***ing your future self. If you guys have a kid together, you are f***ing your kid. And that doesn't sound right, does it? No. No. Those sequence of words? No, it does not. No. It does not. You can use the Fizz card because at least it builds credit. but I'm sure you care about that. But it is only a debit card. Credit isn't horrible. I mean, it's gone up and down. Up and down. I'm sure it's down right now because, again, you're above the f***ing credit limit for Ulta.

27:39So you go in there and endlessly book the services as well? Well, yeah. Like the eyebrow waxing and tinting. How often are we doing this? What are we spending on this? I promise you he doesn't care as much as you think he does. unless that was just a cope I mean it's like$50 to go and get them like waxed how often like maybe I'll go like once every couple months and then I'll like maintain at home with men's beard just maintain at home just maintain just maintain at home he doesn't give a yeah I mean but it's just also like fun to go in and be like kind of pampered and like you know get lotion Body wash I smell good I get why You keep bringing up this fun thing like that negates this though I understand the why We all know it's fun There's so many fun things that I like to do Doesn't mean they're good I just don't know how to stop Like some of this stuff is just like basic Like my razors, my body wash Listen I didn't fight against those But even still Not on a credit card That is maxed out you're telling me if you saw in the simpler budgeting app that you are over your category you wouldn't care i mean i just don't have the so that wouldn't but that wouldn't stop no that wouldn't stop you said i couldn't stop that wouldn't stop you well if you saw you were over the budgeted limit for ulta on a monthly basis no it wouldn't stop me then what's the point then what's the point what are you ever going to do to achieve this goal with him what are you ever going to do?

29:18How are you ever going to get there? Well, I think I do need to restrict myself in some ways. Yes, but how are you going to? If literally seeing that you're going above a limit that you... Alta's not one of them. So you're not willing to compromise on Alta. What a f***ing statement. You realize what you just said? It's my favorite credit card. Like, that's the one I... It's a credit card. Who gives a s***? So is it anything that you're getting a benefit from? I mean, I got it, like, right after the day after my 18th birthday. It's, like, kind of sentimental. There's nostalgia associated with this at sephora i only shop at old i don't know how to get past this i don't care i don't i don't i don't care i oh my gosh i don't care if there's nostalgia it's a piece of plastic it's a piece of plastic this is the stupidest thing i've ever had in the world okay you're being a moron with this you're being a moron and like the the point system like it adds up and then you get free stuff and like yes I get that that's good because I'm a credit card member I get two times the points so like okay like I bet like what are you gonna what are you possibly gonna bet I could get all of this stuff with points like then why are you over the credit limit that's interesting well because you have to spend money to get the points but if you're getting all of it with points it should be able to pay it off completely well if I get the points from the beauty services then like I could get these.

30:51But you're over the credit limit so obviously that is not working. Well not always. What the fuck are you talking about? How many points do you get for a dollar purchase? Do you know? Because it doesn't say it on your card. I think it's two. I mean I don't know. I don't know. You don't know? No. So you're really trying to justify it with the thing you don't know. Yeah? Yes.

31:23I mean this like 125 dollars off of something What is? What do you mean? What are you talking about? If I saved that many points I could get 120 dollars off Okay there we go But how many points do you get with a fucking purchase? I don't know Are you base, platinum or diamond? Probably base You don't even know I can only spend at Ulta. So, like, I think it's just the base one. So, this$125, how many dollars do you think you have to spend to get it? I have the math in front of me. $70. I looked it up. $70? $2 ,000. I hope you're hungry for nothing. I did the math wrong. I think I meant$700. Your point thing is the most moronic bull**** I've ever heard in my life.

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32:10You. That's so stupid. $125 divided by$2 ,000. What do you think the math's going to be? you're gonna get a potential 6 % return that's not horrible in terms of a card guess what you're losing 30.74 % what's a higher number 6 or 30 hey what's a higher number 6 or 30 don't be a dumb yes so maybe the points don't matter even if you're a platinum member you get probably about 7 % 7.5 % cash back okay oh is it based off of how much you spend in a year I don't f***ing know! Because I remember one year I spent like a lot so they bumped me up to the next year. Platinum is$500, Diamond is$1 ,200. Okay, so I think I'm...

32:51Even still, you're probably getting like 8 % cash back. It depends on the year. Which for a credit card is not bad, but what's bigger? $8 or$30? Still$30. Yes, and you're going to get fees with these... Oh, the lady.

33:04This is f***ing crazy. This is so f***ing stupid. You download this damn app now. I swear you do not leave If it doesn't even matter If you see yourself overspending your Alta I want to pay it down though So that I have the money to spend Can I see your Alta account? I bet you have it Is there a special little thing? Let me see it Kill me now

33:35Oh look 21 days of beauty There's a sale Your points is a dollar per purchase, though. It's a dollar and a half. Now for you. What was my last purchase? Oh, please. Oh, my gosh. It just shows you sales, sales, sales. No. I don't know how to. You have something in your bag. You have something in your bag. Are you kidding me? Listen, this$44 stupid little moisturizer bullshit. Hey, it is that. And guess what? Hey, guess what? Guess what? That one you're going to pay for could pay for 7.4. we did the math lady oh no what is all this saved for later hydration face whip sunscreen mousse oh my that's just so fun travel size better than sex brow pencil backpack scrub stick almond avocado of moisturizer?

34:31What is all this bullshit? It's endless! It's nearly endless. Can I see your damn purchases? Yeah. Well, you're going to have to tell me how because I don't know how to get. I don't know how to use this. Save my life. I'm glad.

34:53I don't think it shows the in-person ones. Oh. Your fault. That's not true. I was kidding. Yeah, okay, those four things that we saw there. Then you got some bulls**t. Well, and also, like, I'll buy my boyfriend. I bought him a really nice cologne. It was nice to put it on the... This is crazy that just this s**t within itself, you do this, like, once a month. Just that s**t. Yes! No! Stop! I'm saying it's crazy that you do that once a month and it is f**king over maxed out. That's insane. You are so irresponsible. You just don't pay for what you put on it. I don't say what allow it. It's just so easy.

35:35I know, and that's why you shouldn't have access to it. That's what I'm saying. $2 ,000 on beauty. That's a shopping free. You know what else is easy? A tip? Huh? That's easy. Klarna. Of course. It fits your personality from everything we learned about from the stupid... Well, I recently just got into Klarna. You just got into it, and you're already up to 1 ,054? Like a year almost now. You shouldn't get it. This shouldn't be something we get into. It's not a hobby. We're not getting into Corona. What is that logic? It's nice to be able to like make a big purchase and split it into four payments, especially like no interest.

36:13But you've proven you can't manage that. Well, I make the payments every single month. I can manage it. No, no. Because this is what happens is because you think you're able to split things into a four payment thing, which you think it will help you. That's what you think. but then all of a sudden this makes it so there is more money due at certain times it is stacking up constantly which does not allow you to have money in your checking account which means when you go to purchase something at alta or go get a service you have to use a credit card that is already at maxed out because you don't have any money in your checking account the reason you don't have any money in your checking account is because you're not taking track of your minimum monthly payments that you are endlessly stacking on top of each other because you think it's helping you well luckily i just use well are you gonna well that you like i just i have to justify it Like, why?

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38:46That's not what it should be about it should be about utilizing your money in a better way like this money could be utilized somewhere else in a more efficient way say it returns on the stock market if i'm like buying the s &p 500 or something that's always a classic example right or yes even your alta bill but you're not even doing that that's what i'm saying because you are stacking your minimum payments higher than you know because you are not tracking them because you just do the split in four constantly because there's zero percent interest and it just helps me get this purchase now because of that you are making money just leave your checking account when you don't know it all these automatic payments that are constantly hitting which is draining your checking account and making it so you don't have money when you try to go do things yeah i mean i definitely see that but i mean i will pay it all like when i get paid i'll pay all the payments so i don't have like 20 hitting me at once or like at random times i'm really good about keeping on top of it and making it or not you said you didn't have money in your checking account to get alta or else you wouldn't well i know if you're on top of it about making my payments like i've never why are you above a credit card limit then i i don't know you don't know no i mean you don't know how do you get above it i mean i've made if you're keeping track of your payments knowing what balances you have you should know how much you're able to purchase if we even look at it that way keeping track of like how much i have to purchase i'm just keeping track of I'm making the payments at least.

40:11I'm not missing them. You put$491 towards Karna alone. Girl, that's 17 % of your high paycheck. Of your high paycheck just going to Karna. That's what you're doing. Like this is my grocery bill because I. You're splitting it for your groceries? Well, yeah. I don't drive. That's a necessity. So I Instacart. You're paying him for Instacart? What about the boyfriend? You live with the boyfriend. Well, yeah, but he does have two jobs. and he travels for one of them. You gotta take care of your lazy ass and spoiled ass who won't stop spending money they don't have. No shit. He's taking care of it. Can't rely on you to save anything.

40:48Well, I deserve it. I'm worth it. You entitled pride. What the fuck is that? What kind of defensive nature? I know. Listen, you just come onto the camera. Okay, you're not used to getting this kind of pushback. I get it. But that is such a dumb mentality to have. You need to rip that part of you and throw it away or else why even be with him? I love him. Without self-centered and entitled and disgusting. A statement that is. Why put him through that? I mean, he loves me. He's willing to go through it. If he watches this back, will he love you? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Is he desperate? No. Not at all.

41:37You're a person on this earth. I want you to do well. I also agree. You are worth it. The general it. Just like any other human. You are worth sacrifice to make your life better. You are not worth it to f*** your life. But I also. But all you do is f*** your life. I want to be independent in a way I don't need to rely on him because I can Instacart the groceries. like but but you're paying for it and then just your minimum payments alone because of how much you stack it is going to 17 of your high paycheck month just your minimum payments on past groceries i mean do you not see how dumb that is but i don't have a car like it's i get that but he could stop at the grocery store i mean yes sometimes if you schedule a pickup i'm i've done that like i there you go do that more but it's just easier to instacart it and it is easier it is easier you're doing that thing you're doing that thing from earlier in the episode i said i know it's fun i know it's easier you're saying things we all know they are not good reasons they are not good reasons i need to rip that from your brain i mean it just feels good to me it feels good that I don't drive, so I need food.

42:55I need food. I need food. Meal prep. Use the cookbook that comes with the budgeting app right here. And guess what? Have him pick up the groceries. How far is the grocery store from your house? Hey, how far is the grocery store from your house was the question that I asked that you're going to answer. It's like a 15-minute walk. Okay. Walk? Yeah. Okay. Oh, I know it's not Europe, and we all hate walking. Us and our fat f***s. But guess what? I had a little bit of groceries. Fine. but$300 worth of groceries how am I freeing that home? because it's close to walk you can do shorter trips you can do smaller trips more frequently and it's honestly good for your health yeah it's what everyone else does in the world I mean except for Australia Canada or the United States but I'm just like lazy it's easy yes you are thank you self admitting self admitting and should you drag him down should you drag him down is it his fault his responsibility that you are self confessed lazy and you refuse to do anything about it because you'd rather just be an entitled little brat for the rest of your life?

43:52No, he doesn't deserve it. Oh, I know. But I mean, he also enables it in a way. Like he's not, he knows I do it. I mean, we just got a dog. You're going to blame him. We just got a dog three months ago and he hasn't bought any of the food. I always Instacart it. Like it's just. Enables, that's not enabling you. That's him just being not present, which honestly is not a good call either in that. But that's not enabling you. No, no, no. You just try to deflect with saying he enables you. Try to pull out a buzzword like that to try to get out of this? F*** you. You have, throughout this entire damn conversation, I've seen nothing but spoiled, lazy, and entitlement.

44:36They're enable. What enable? When I tell him that in the post show when we bring him on, when I tell him that, what is he going to f***ing say? That you deflected and tried to get out of this pushback that I'm giving you. I have different coach purses and I say, which one should I buy? And he sends me the one that I should buy. Yeah. Is that not enabling? Slightly? A little bit. But to deflect the whole thing, it is still your choice in the end to purchase. I mean, he just supports me. It's making me happy. So I think he just helps me to be happy. You're happy to be in this hole and to not be engaged.

45:09I'm happy to have a coach purse with cherries on it. What's your retirement at? My retirement? Yeah. Well, I pause. You're happy to die in poverty. You're happy to die in poverty. right no but i'm happy to not have a car do you want a car i do i do want to drive um you're happy to not have the thing that you want you're happy to not have the engagement you're happy to not be healthy you're happy to not have all these things you want you're happy to not get 70 seven of these you're happy to not get seven of these and only one instead you're happy with this you're happy with this life if you're happy with this life you're never going to change you're never going to change if you are satisfied but you should not be satisfied because your life is not good your life is not good i mean it's a little good it's not good you're making it worse and you are going to have to at 25 30 you are going to be battering down the hatches because of the hurricane you have created right now being a spoiled brat and then instead of taking any responsibility in your life you say well he enabled me and that's why this is happening listen he might a little and he should not encourage that but it is still your choice in the end that you are making yeah don't pull that i mean it's just i didn't so much before that it feels nice that i can finally neither did i grew up in lower middle class we got foreclosure notices on the house who gives a listen i work for the i budget i'm smart i pay i'm smart with my money i mean i also feel like i'm smart with my money for what i want it's just taking me a little bit longer to get there well no you're not you're only putting what you want on debt you're not working for it.

46:40You're working to pay off the interest on the things you've already purchased. I don't know what the f*** you're talking about. I paid off my debt. I sacrificed to do it so that I can buy the things I want now. I bought the car that I drive out front that I absolutely love. And I purchased that because I sacrificed, paid off debt, got a fully funded emergency fund. And then I could! Because I budgeted it. You're just debt, debt, debt. If you went and got a car today to fulfill that need, you'd get like a 25 % interest dumbass car. and you look at one lot that's what someone like you does and you'd say i deserve it i'm worth it well i am but um it just yeah i don't that is a mentality that i do not know how to fix listen use the therapist as sondermine they're a partner of the channel you get three free therapy sessions our guests or our audience uses them i use them you got to deal with that mentality that is some stuff tell say everything you've said in this episode make them watch this episode to onboard you my this is crazy dude so what all are you buying on car you're just saying groceries well yeah i mean bring up your car will it show me yeah yeah um i have the uh one um i did buy my coach purse on clarna um that's right that's really you told me they were necessity groceries but like it was kind of a necessity to get a new necessity no it wasn't

48:09but yeah i think cards first of all you're spending a lot on groceries i mean this is this is insane like every week yeah we do i mean i cook a lot i don't necessarily too much budget when i'm cooking i just kind of make what looks good on tiktok in the next seven days just in the next seven days these payments this is crazy so just i get paid tomorrow it should that's scary the fact that that's where your mind is you're okay this all makes sense you are still in the mindset of like these minimum payments or these things that i'm delaying are okay because i get paid on the day right before they get taken out so you are oh my gosh the way you justify this you need to build a budget you need to stick to the budget you need to have discipline it just feels hard to it is hard but you have to put the work in go through the budgeting class you get it for free 10 000 people in our audience have literally taken our budgeting class on all of our classes i mean they get them at a discount but again you guys get them for free because you're a guest on the show take it and i will walk with you take the quizzes i will help you but just because something's hard is not an excuse not to do so this your mindset of i can do this because i get paid tomorrow that is so scary you cannot be in that situation yes it's instacart instacart instacart instacart instacart all owed in the next month and then coach instacart instacart it's the car it's already stretched out to april it's the car it's the car it's the car coach coach coach coach oh that's completed i don't think june june is still coat on a monthly basis just in march let's just see because you're going to repeat the cycle 70.7.37 plus 2.95 plus 49.09 plus 18.33 plus 63.09 plus 25.65 plus 45.05 plus 70.37 plus 49.09 What the f*** is offer up?

50:12What is offer up? What is offer up? Well, it's just like where you can post stuff to sell or buy random stuff. But I feel like you probably buy. Well, yeah, because it is it just popped up and said, I have something you might want to buy. Well, you can't afford relationship with offer up relationship with money. You don't respect it. You don't understand how it works. So no scroll, you know, like even if I don't, I don't give a fuck. It doesn't matter. Your minimum payments alone on this is four hundred and twelve dollars and thirty two cents. And I know that goes down on a monthly basis. Sometimes I know that goes down.

50:54well I know that you'll pay sorry I meant you will pay off some of those line items on a monthly basis but I know you replace them yeah because all you do is go back so that's what your minimum monthly payment is but you can pay this off yeah in like two months I have so many like payments like it's hard to you know well there you go there's shows that you can't do it there's shows you can't do it you just you just proved it you just proved that you can't manage your minimum monthly payments the thing that you said you could in the beginning. You just proved. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

51:27You just accidentally told the truth. You just accidentally told the truth.

51:34You just accidentally told the truth for the first time in your f***ing life.

51:41You're not very far from your karma limit, by the way. Oh, you order wine through there as well? Well, that was for a girls' night type thing. I have them pretty frequently. Pay off our debt night. Should be every night in your house. You don't have. You literally don't have money. You're at your maxes. You're just. I mean, there's always money to hang with the girls. No, there's literally not. You don't have money. So there's literally not. But I can just Instacart it. And corner it. So I do kind of have the money. I mean, I had to get the spending power.

52:24I don't know what to do with a creature like you. That's impossible. How are you not overcoming this? How is what I'm saying not breaking through to you? What the f*** do I do?

52:39What is M? Mercury. Mercury. And, like, this is, like, a credit card I opened, like, freshly 18, 19. Freshly 18? Well, when I was with the high school boyfriend. Gen Z. So like I just. Half of the charges are just junk. And I think I have been making kind of the minimum payment and not really able to. Yes, because you were freshly teen. Because everything now is about infantilizing ourselves. The younger we can make ourselves. Well, it just seems like so long ago. Like I just. I've lived a lot of life. It wasn't. In your life, it literally wasn't. It just seems like so many credit cards go. Well, yes, because you're a dumbass with money.

53:19But who cares? I just, I don't get it. It doesn't matter. Stop trying to make yourself sound like a child. And for that being a reason why, it's not an acceptable reason. When I was freshly 18, I went and got a guitar center card and I f***ed it by being a dumb f*** and buying a piano with it, a nice electric piano that I still have because it's really good. But it was my dumb ass choice. Not because I was freshly 18. But like a lot of it too, like I know it was my choice to open it, but I definitely felt the pressure from the ex-boyfriend like i needed to support him that part is in and out of jail like i was putting the money on his books like listen no he's a piece of he's a piece of and there is there is that's that's the only thing in this conversation that you so far have said that is more like i guess appropriately victim me in a way because you try to deflect a lot of things and a lot of bull**** excuses.

54:20But yes, he's a piece of s***. And I wish you would have gone away quicker. Me too. And I wish you had someone in your life to tell you that. But either way, that happened. And he's a piece of s***. He's in prison. Good. For what? Armed robbery. Sounds about right. Yeah. He liked to do... Well, you said he brought up OfferUp, so I got kind of confused because he used to meet up with people on OfferUp and rob them. Oh my f***. And yeah. This is insane. When you said that, I was kind of caught up. Can I call him? No, he's in prison. Yeah, can I call him? No. How would you call him? You can't call people in prison?

54:58That's not how that works. Wait. Okay, they have to call me. Yeah, yeah. It's like collect call, so you have to pay for it as well to talk to them. What? I can't get someone to go get them? I don't know. During COVID, they had where you could make video visits. with them for free because it was like COVID. But I can't like call him in the post show? No, absolutely not. How would you? Can you get in contact with him and ask him to call us? Well, like you can like email the inmates, but I haven't done it. Like obviously. So we have to wait for his computer time? Oh yeah, yeah. He's in prison, prison.

55:42Okay. You have an$82.80 minimum payment on this with a$2 ,292.32 balance. Purchases, you're still fucking purchasing. What's the credit limit on this? You're over it again. You're over on two and almost on corner. Lady, at this point, what the fuck are we doing? There's always money for Girls Night. There's literally not. We've talked about three debts so far. In two of them, you're over. In the other one, you're close. You are fucking this up so much. This is unacceptable. You are choosing girls night over your engagement. You are choosing your desire for sweet treats over your engagement. You're choosing makeup over your engagement.

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57:44You will not regret this. This is f***ed. When you put it like that. Yes! How else would I put it? I'm just young and having fun. No, you're not. You're 25. I'm 23. You're 23. You're not being freshly 18 anymore.

58:05i mean yeah but i just i'm having fun like with my life and you're choosing fun with your life over your fiance no not fun with him though not fiance no not always it's just like when you the makeup is not fun with him the makeup is not fun with happiness and makeup is not fun with him is making me happy what do you even want to do for a living because this is going to be It's so hard to crawl out of with your eight, 20 whatever dollars an hour, 22. It's going to be so hard in Seattle and not cheap area. I'm working on promoting. So you want to promote within? I do, but I need to learn how to drive and work on driving.

58:43I have like severe. Why haven't you learned how to drive? I just have severe anxiety. Like I've tried. I've taken the written test multiple times. What happens? I've worked with, I panic and I like will stop in the middle of the road. Okay, I get it. I mean, I have a panic disorder when it comes to flying and nails. So I get it. Yeah. And I'm working on it. Like I see a therapist. I've paid for classes. Like I'm actively trying. But you do have to put in the action. And I know like in my future, I need to have a car. You have to put in the action. You can also take public transportation. You admitted that yourself.

59:11Yeah. So you're afraid of driving. You're okay with being in a car? Yeah. Or someone else? Like for the most part. At least Uber. You can Uber for now. I do always Uber. There you go. But like. 30 hours a week is no longer acceptable when you have to pull yourself out of this. Listen, I will gift you a certification of your choice through course careers. Have that boost your resume to hopefully get you up the corporate ladder a little quicker. Yeah. Well, end goal, though, I want to be a wedding planner. That has nothing to do with what you just said. I know, but I just kind of maybe want to have I run somebody else's company first.

59:41Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know what? You don't get to have those goals. You know why? Because you are in so much debt that it is holding so much risk over your head that you are literally unable to start your own business because you just can't do that. Because you don't even have an emergency fund for your own self. When you start a business, you want to go in risk-free. Best way to do that is to not have any bad debt. You have a lot of bad debt. In fact, max out bad debt. Best way to go into a business is having at least a year's emergency fund for yourself so you can cash flow your necessities while you are trying to put money and time into a business that will not return right away.

1:00:10That's what I did. That's what people do. That's what real people do who sacrifice and make an impact in this world. That's what 48 % of the job creators in this country do. That's right. 48 % of the jobs come from small businesses. I don't know if that's private sector only or including government jobs, but that's what you could do. but you don't even have the ability to do that. Do you know why? Because you have bad debt. It is holding over your head. You are required to have an income on the first day or else you won't make your minimum payments. You are holding yourself back from your dream.

1:00:36If you don't give a f*** enough about your fiancé to get out of this, hopefully at least this is the reason you would want to get out of this if you prefer to have your business and dreams more than him. If that's what gets you there, then that will... If that's what gets you there, fine. $60 and 40 cents of interest. And guess what? Yep, you're only doing the minimum payments. $66 ,048 of purchases. What the f*** is a bolero? Oh, that's a bowling alley. Great! That's worth going over a credit limit at 31.24 % interest. But that's just like an experience. Like, it's like I'm just living life. Like, being young.

1:01:14Like, bowling. Okay, she doesn't give a f***. Shut the f*** up. Shut the f***. Just stop. QFC. That's a grocery store. $10 ,048. sense um i don't know maybe yeah you went and got into bull you went and got like an energy drink or something maybe exactly i know what those i've been through enough of these well it's not like i just like walk to go and get stuff like that like it has to be like out of my way for me to want to go and it's 15 minutes 15 minute walk in america is actually pretty crazy but even still so it's the example like you actually have a very blessed situation most americans have to drive on a four lane.

1:01:55And I made it work. Like I've worked at made it work. It literally works now. I've taken public transportation. Like I I'm doing it. Like so doing it. It's not necessarily what I want. Your credit limit on two cards almost on the Klarna. Oh, good. Almost on Mission Lane as well because you owe one thousand two hundred thirty seven dollars and thirty nine cents. The credit limit's a thousand four hundred. So you're almost there. You'll be there before you know it because now there's no money to spend on the other card. So you just put them on this card. Yeah, there's no purchase. here. It will be soon because that's all you do.

1:02:25Now you can't spend on the Alta. Now you can't spend on the Mercury. So you'll spend on Mission Lane. Yep, betcha. That's what you do. I know how you work. How long does this take to pay off? Minimum multi-payments only without purchasing on it, which I highly doubt will actually be the case, but go for it. Maybe four years. Okay, it's going to take nine years. So you're going to be well into your 30s. Congratulations. That's a wonderful place to be debt with no yeah, nine years, nine years, until you can get engaged. How does that feel? How does that feel? That's great. Nine years until you can start your business at a minimum.

1:02:58That's really great. That's so good. Feels like my biological clock's ticking. Yeah, so there you go. No baby. $50.39. $23. She's not even$25. She's$23. Yeah. We just got to cut back everywhere. We just got to cut back everywhere. You need to make more money. You need to Uber. Like I can't stop spending. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. And you need to work with your therapist on this because you're just saying what I want, what I want, what I want. I mean, you can do things like switch your phone bill to helium for like 15 bucks a month. You can do small things like that. That's easy. There's so many options we can do.

1:03:39You don't need$250 a week on groceries. I know for a fact. You don't need to be eating out. You don't need to be getting your bull. This mercury. I mean, listen, you had fees last year, probably late payments. Yeah. I've never had a late payment. For the fees. Maybe because like. Does it have a card fee? It's at a 35 % interest rate. Kill me now. Yeah. No wonder he's not getting engaged. I wouldn't. This is a mess. And listen to the way you talk. Well, I think he doesn't also like fully know. Like he knows I'm in debt. Oh, he's about to know in the post show. He's about to know in the post show.

1:04:17I'm going to. This is crazy. credit one no actually I have two credit ones of course you do your entire image is just I fully understand it now I'm not surprised that you have a credit one the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst you have to be the worst of the worst why is it the worst though like because you get fees on a monthly basis that are stupid but it's like you don't even have to have a balance that get these monthly fees credit karma recommended why would you listen to that Wait, are you not supposed to listen to them? Why do you care about that? Because most of my financial prices come from them.

1:04:58What? I read all the tips and hints. Tips and hints are okay, but you're taking a recommended credit card. You should apply for one more card to increase your credit limit. Here's some options. And that kind of works if you don't spend on them. That's all you do is spend. You don't know how not to spend. You're draining my oxygen. with your stupidity. You just get fees endlessly. Oh, you go in here and you purchase$47 of Uber f***ing Eats? Uber f***ing Eats? That's more important. I don't drive. I don't drive. You shouldn't be going out to eat at all. It doesn't matter if you're getting it delivered or you're going.

1:05:39How do I... That should not be your f***ing excuse. That should not be your f***ing excuse, Hunter. How is that your possible excuse after this conversation you don't drive? You shouldn't be going out regardless. You shouldn't be going out regardless. It's just, I don't f***ing, this is an impossible conversation. This is an impossible conversation, credit one. Credit one, okay, credit one, let's see, huh? What do we got? Oh, good,$615.36 on a$700 credit card. So there you go, add that to the almost maxed out, well done. The minimum payment of$31, you get your fees, you get your Uber Eats, you get your f***ing minimum payments, you just get the bulls***, bulls***, bulls***.

1:06:19It's so stupid. So stupid. We're putting$47 of interest rate on here. It's so stupid. My New Year's resolution was to stop Uber Eatsing. Well, guess what? We're almost done with the second month and you haven't stopped, so New Year's resolution failed like all the other ones. Congratulations. I'm working on it. No, you're not. You're literally not. You just purchased an Uber Eats. Shut the f*** up. Shut the f*** up. You're a child. I'm borderline done with this conversation. Keep going and I'm f***ing out of that. Seriously, this is so stupid the credit one again four hundred twenty two dollars and forty seven cents It's been a we don't I have there was like a month where people are just horrible and I just had to kick him off You're approaching that level.

1:07:00It's been a long time. Just stop You're being a child thirty dollars I know it's hard to be on the camera for the first time in your life I know it is hard to get confrontation for the first time in your life You do not have to justify everything. You don't have to be a child. You do not have to be someone listen it is okay to take some feedback and just accept it 30 dollar monthly payment on this one oh guess what we got our fees we always get fees on credit one that's what the credit one's known for and then ten dollars of interest almost maxed out you got fees you got bullshit it's stupid it's pointless it's dumb you're ruining your life and you're putting this over your engagement over your business over your goals over your desires over your biological clock over your blah blah blah blah blah blah anything and everything you've possibly named oh good there's actually more to go through how the possible is that even possible plus one what is this i've never even heard of it in my life oh it's plus finance oh i'm sure it's just another one of the ones that credit card recommended that credit card karma yeah who gives a what they recommend dude they are getting a commission from you i mean on there in general when you open credit you're opening credit to get a certain reward that you want to do or on a credit building strategy but you just max them out so you're not focusing on the credit building strategy and you're not focus on the rewards either because you're just taking the ones that they're like most likely to get you be accepted of course credit karma is gonna or credit one's gonna accept you they accept anyone they're bottom feeders they also have this thing where like if you don't get accepted they'll send you 50 guess what everyone gets accepted for credit one they're bottom feeders so that's a dumb stupid thing plus one you owe 938 let me guess the credit limit is gonna be like a thousand or something let's see or 900 no it's oh it's 1100 it's the furthest you've been away almost$70,$160.

1:08:41Interest being charged. Minimum monthly payment being made. Okay, minimum monthly$34. And there's interest being charged. Six years to pay off.

1:09:00Upstart, why are you taking on an Upstart loan? Well, it was in 2021, around the time I moved out of like the Craigslist guy. I really needed money. I was moving around. I needed to get out of that situation. And that money helped. Yeah, it was it was rough. He had a tattoo of a camel on his big toe. Like camel toe. Well, don't make him sound cool. Oh, I would argue that that's not cool. I'm kidding. okay current but so what so you had to use to move out from the yeah well kind of so um yeah and like i moved like about an hour and a half away and with like my great aunt um and was just kind kind of trying to why have you had no stability i'm so confused why couldn't you move back in with your grandma um she's just older um i mean obviously that's her sister but you're independent still but it's a roof yeah that's all you needed right kind of did you need your aunt to do anything no um so how long were you with the man from craigslist yeah like maybe five months in five months yeah the whole time he was trying to yeah and i would like bring guys over and like he didn't care like just was kind of always uh trying to get after me uh well to be clear i i just want to be very clear you did not go in with the acknowledgement and consent and intention to no we never did absolutely i was because i wouldn't give a if that's what you guys were never interested but like i think what he was expecting was like oh a woman's gonna move in she's gonna want to sleep with me and do my laundry and like cook for me and like it's gonna be so great and i have two kids maybe she'll take care of them um but that's not what he got with me listen i i don't care what any consenting adults do if you go into it with that intention but you didn't so i don't they still yeah well and my great aunt actually came with me to view the apartment before like to make sure like check it out with me so like i don't know like you never gave in did you no good thank you thank you good he doesn't deserve that okay so five months and you had to borrow to get to your great aunt yeah you have to borrow to get to her well so it was like about an hour and a half away um so i had to like move my stuff movers um and just kind of What did you have in this house?

1:11:23That you were only there for five months? Wait, what? Movers? You needed movers? What did you have? Well, like all of my stuff that I like have acquired. I previously was in a house. You don't need stuff. We're on survival mode. You don't need stuff. Like I had a three bedroom house for a little bit. I know, but you don't need stuff. Honestly, it would have probably made sense for you to sell that shit. Yeah. To sell it and make money and pay off your debt. Looking back, probably. Well, still today. But I mean, yeah. How much of it do you have today? All of it. Sell it. But like, I don't care.

1:11:54I don't care. You're dying in debt and it's preventing you from actually don't sell it yet. Not until you fix your behavior or else you'll just build up. I actually want to buy a new couch. So like, don't like, I don't know what else to say. Don't you know why at this point everyone else knows why. And I'm not going to put the energy into the why. Like it's stupid. You think you're in a position to get a new couch? Well, maybe I can make payments on it. Me and my boyfriend. He doesn't have very much credit. He can do it. You can't. I mean, like$1 ,300. We were looking at a couple. Current bounce is$1 ,416.

1:12:34Fucking stupid dollars. The minimum monthly payment is$74. It's at a 32 % interest rate. $74.05 minimum monthly payment. I don't even want to let you finish that thought. It's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. stop being a pull out couch so I can have like my girls over girls over yeah I don't give a f*** about your girls go over to them go over to them go to a park with them go to the lake with them go to the f***ing little whales go to the whales go whale watching yeah go whale watching well from the shore for free that like boat that you can get in yes

1:13:23this is not a pleasant conversation i i hope you watch this back and see the things you are saying i know again you are not used to being in front of the camera really it's interesting how that works and you're not used to getting pushback i need you to watch this and reflect on this Well, my therapist actually told me I shouldn't watch it. You shouldn't read the comments. You shouldn't read the comments just like we tell every other guest. Well, every guest. But maybe watch the episode and reflect on it. Yeah. Download it or something. She said she was going to watch it. Good. Give me some feedback.

1:14:00Yeah, fucking good. Thank you because you're kind of insane. She won't like me saying that. But, I mean, there's 31 cents in your checking account.

1:14:22that's not so bullshit purchases what are we doing what is your life you don't give a fuck you've put no effort in to trying to do this thing that the boyfriend is requiring for fiance ship which is fair because you're being a dumb money and self-centered

1:14:47Apple Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Amazon Zelle $500 that's our rent Mac Remedy Amazon Apple Mac Target what is a makeup no that's the dispensary we go to like the ATM For f***ing lead? Yeah. I'm having Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac, Mac. Well, actually. I'm having so much Mac, I'm having hundreds of dollars of Mac. I used to spend a lot more. I've definitely budgeted it. I don't give a f***. I've seen hundreds of dollars of Mac if you're spending. Hey, if you're spending more, it's also f***ing stupid. But this is f***ing absolutely beyond so stupid. It used to be like$400. Dude, this is like$400. This has to be close.

1:15:39olive garden probably after you smoked a bunch of mac apple zellin out money mac mac ooper eats probably after a bunch of f***ing mac i didn't know you're a f***ing pothead now i understand why your brain is completely broken appleville appleville savings a dollar 72 cents practically more than our f***ing checking account look at us 734 in retirement guys we're well on our way pull up your phone subscriptions peacock and photos photos maybe but you've had every streaming service it looks like i mean come on on max there's at least white lotus that's great did you have peacock what the fuck is peacock for okay amazon

1:16:21yeah a lot of amazon purchase there's five things in your cart what's gonna be in your cart oh good some oversized long jumpsuit bull we really need girls therapy bold and easy coloring book you don't need a fucking coloring book just because you act five doesn't mean you need to really act five stop being dumb you do not need these artificial plants you do not need these drain cloggers you do not need these okay maybe you need the drain cloggers in the rope that gives the drain because your pubes keep going down the drain whatever

1:16:52Himalayan cheese Oh that's what my dog He really loves those Yeah and you can't afford a dog Well We just got him three months ago You can't afford a dog You can't afford a puppy You couldn't afford pet insurance To save your life You have a sense in your chicken account You can't afford a dog It is irresponsible for you to have a dog Me and my boyfriend share the dog though You don't recognize this You don't recognize this Listen not everything's a fucking fight Shut the fuck up You cannot afford a dog It is as easy as that jeez for f*** sake dogs dogs dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog dog I don't care I don't care you can't afford it hidden expandable men's cozy hidden what's hidden expanding well every time he gets a boner and just hides it what is he expanding hidden what is it do you guys share an Amazon account no what the f*** is going on stupid stupid it's just stupid it's stupid It's stupid It's stupid It's stupid It's stupid It's stupid It's stupid I feel like I should yell at you guys For making me go do this stupid

1:18:01You're crazy You got$150 every two weeks Is your cut budget $400 every two weeks Is what you used to do I'm f***ing Yeah Can you say now you got$150 every two weeks Do you partake? Do I partake? I should have brought you some edibles I actually make them No thank you I'm okay I get anxious with them. Listen, I don't have, I don't have a issue with like, I don't have an issue with sex. I don't have an issue with beer. I don't have alcohol or whatever. If you, if you are able to recreationally doing something without an addiction, that's fine. But you are on an obviously habit pattern, a pattern that a lot of people base their life around eventually.

1:18:36Come on. More information is coming out that it is really not healthy for you. More information is coming out that people get more life dependent on it. Even if you don't get the withdrawal symptoms that you'd get in other things, you tend to feel sad when you're going away from it you tend to like what is the point of like i used to get high and go do this now it's not as fun to go do that anymore a lot of people are really recognizing this in today's culture i don't have a problem against something's not a recreational way i don't care i get anxious so i don't but i don't give a you are obviously in a habit-driven mode meaning if you stop things would be for you it's a part of my daily life i've exactly like been for many years smoking weed and I think like it is kind of like my medication a little girl a month and a half of your income goes to your annual amount on your cut back budget cut back a budget meaning three months went to it previously three months of your Starbucks working everything makes so much more sense and I understand why you are completely fried fried what is your portion of rent 875 875 dollars okay utilities your portion of utilities um well i pay the internet and the like puds is usually it's about 200 a month what the fuck is the pud that's like our electric bill usually like our key what's your phone bill uh 55 it's actually not the worst again i would switch to something like helium.

1:20:04I do. I'm also paying. How much for public transportation and Uber on a monthly basis? What do we allot to it? A lot. Come on. What can I allot? $100. That's it? Are you sure? That's on the high end. I don't know how you'd afford a car payment or a car insurance. Yeah, I think that's part of the problem for me, especially with all my payments. Ideally, I would cut back a lot of the credit card debt and then I could afford a card payment instead or car insurance. I don't know, man. I don't know. Shit gets real expensive. Interest rates aren't great. Car market hasn't fully corrected all the way down.

1:20:39I don't know if it ever will again. Well, I think I'd be willing to take out a loan maybe. Great. Let's delay the engagement in the business even more. Well done. Life has been so successful. Every loan you've been so good at. Everything's been so well. Yeah, let's keep going. Like a car loan. Oh, a car loan. That's not any different. It's only on a depreciating asset. Well, I just don't. I don't really know how it works. No. I'm not going to explain it because I don't think that's not where we are in this conversation. At this point, we're on the basic level of literally your minimum payments for fun are$802.56.

1:21:17It's fucking crazy, dude. Necessary food. You're allowed to contribute$300 to the household food. You're allowed to contribute$100 to the TP fund. This is also makeup. That is your Ulta. It is toilet paper. It is tampons. It is anything and everything you need. Medications on a monthly basis or any medical expenses. What? You said you have therapy? Yeah, but it's actually free. Cool. How much medications and everything? Like$40 on medication. Okay. Gym? Yeah, I have a gym membership. How much? 27. Subscriptions. Do you pay for pet insurance? I don't pay for it. Okay. No subscriptions for you. Canceling that bullsh**.

1:21:52Certainly don't need it. Oh, your phone bill is 55. I put that in the wrong area. Okay. Anything else that needs to be in your budget that I have not taken an account yet? Well, the... No. are you moronic that needs to be in there

1:22:09then with that I'm willing to cut it but it has to be in there a little bit it's not in there part of my fun or like that$100 like

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1:23:00In a lot of ways, I... Oh, f***. Do you really think it's your fault? But we're having fun. Oh, good. They're having fun. Maybe you guys should get married because you guys are both f***ing stupid and you're both going to die in poverty. Let the rest of us watch you die and crumble. But it's fun! You know you guys are addicts. Yeah. To watch the Financial Audit post show, click the Join button below.

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