Pathetic Simp Drowning In Debt For Busty Latinas | Financial Audit

3 Dec 2025 · 1 h 37 min

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Podcast Overview

  • Title: Financial Audit
  • Description: A podcast that educates and entertains on personal finance topics.
  • Episode: Pathetic Simp Drowning In Debt For Busty Latinas
  • Main Themes: Personal finance mismanagement, relationships, debt, and lifestyle choices.

Key Participants

  • Host: Caleb Hammer
  • Guest: Logan, a 21-year-old from San Antonio, Texas

Summary of the Episode The episode features a financial audit of Logan, who is struggling with significant debt due to poor financial decisions, lifestyle choices, and the impact of his relationships. The discussion dives deep into his financial history, revealing how frivolous spending, particularly on women and social outings, has led to his current financial struggles.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Logan's Background
  2. Works at a data center and part-time at a zoo.
  3. Earns approximately $3,300 monthly from the data center.
  4. Has a history of spending excessively on women, tech gadgets, and social activities.
  1. Financial Mismanagement
  2. Logan has accumulated around $64,000 in debt from various sources.
  3. He purchased a used Jeep Compass that turned out to be a financial burden.
  4. Spent significant amounts on repairs and maintenance, leading to further debt.
  5. He admits to making poor spending decisions, particularly in his late teens.
  1. Relationships and Spending Habits
  2. Logan's interactions with women led to significant financial drains, including extravagant dates and gifts.
  3. He acknowledges a pattern of "simping," leading to a large portion of his earnings going towards women.
  4. A tumultuous breakup added to his stress and financial woes.
  1. Current Financial State
  2. Total monthly expenses approximate $1,524.79, mainly from debts and living costs.
  3. Minimum payments on his debts total $1,524.79.
  4. Plans to sell his Jeep to help alleviate some financial pressure.
  1. Advice from Caleb
  2. Caleb critiques Logan’s spending habits and encourages him to take personal responsibility for his financial decisions.
  3. Suggests he focuses on paying down high-interest debts before engaging in new purchases or investments.
  4. Offers insights on budgeting and the importance of tracking expenses to regain financial control.

Financial Breakdown

  • Monthly Income: $8,200
  • Total Debt: Approximately $64,000
  • Monthly Expenses: $1,524.79
  • Proposed Budgeting Strategy:
  • Allocate $500 towards the Jeep car repairs.
  • Sell the Jeep to reduce overall debt.
  • Focus on paying off high-interest credit cards.

Quotes

  • "You need the extra money. You don’t get approved to come on Financial Audit unless you’re f***ed."
  • "Women are my demise, bro."

Key Takeaways

  • Personal Responsibility: Logan's financial issues stem from poor decisions and a lack of accountability.
  • Debt Management: The importance of paying off high-interest debt and avoiding new debt accumulation.
  • Relationship Impact on Finances: Personal relationships can significantly influence financial behavior and decision-making.

Conclusion Logan's story serves as a cautionary tale about the potential consequences of poor financial management, particularly when influenced by lifestyle choices and relationships. This episode emphasizes the need for personal accountability and practical financial strategies to overcome debt.

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1:10Oh, it's just my fault. Sorry, Graham. He says it's just my fault. I was doing well when I was just watching Graham. If you had all that money still and you didn't blow it all on women, booze, you lost out on$4 million. Black Friday starts now. Master Your Money, my all-in-one personal finance membership is finally live. It is every single course I've ever made, exclusive content, and a members-only community. Click the link below and become the member of the best money membership on the planet. I'll see you inside. My name is Logan from San Antonio, Texas, and I'm 21, and this is Financial Audit.

1:43Yes, it is. This has been interesting, the few minutes I've been in the room. When I saw you from afar. Yeah. I thought you were either a they, them making me my coffee or just straight up lesbian. Oh, yeah, that's incredible. He has birthing hips, for those who don't know. Maybe you want to stand up and give us a twirl? Happily. I think I don't have birdies. Oh, this is why I saw it afar, because he has so many things in his pocket. So when I saw him across the studio, I was like, all right, we got a lesbian. Yeah, big time lesbian vibes. I love a lesbian. I'm a big time woman lover, so I'll take that.

2:18Yeah, unfortunately, I just have a straight dude. Yeah, it's not as interesting. No, it's not. Everyone likes good lesbian mix-up. Yeah, we love the lesbians. We really do. So, Logan, thanks for coming up to Austin. What do you do for a living in San Antonio? So in San Antonio, I work at a data center and also work at a zoo part-time. The zoo, perhaps? The San Antonio Zoo. Yeah, I would guess. What's your position at the data center? The data center, I'm a critical engineering tech, so it's a multifaceted role. And people hate you guys right now. They're wrong. Oh, they're wrong. Yes, they're wrong.

2:51Data center is a big upsetness. Now, people overestimate the water thing, but they don't overestimate the energy use. The energy use is an actual real thing. And it's making energy more expensive. However, the water use, they have no idea what the f*** they're talking about. No, no, no. People don't know what they're talking about with energy either. Really? No, yeah. So with how much we do, how much infrastructure is built just because of us, like, it's silly. Like, the argument that we spend too much and all this other stuff. And not to mention the data center. Well, spend too much. I don't care about what private parties are choosing to spend.

3:24That's not the issue. But, you know, energy prices are dramatically going up. and it is, maybe correlation isn't causation, but it is pretty aligned. But the water use thing, they have no idea what they're talking about. Like 90 % of water in California goes to almonds. So I don't want to hear alpha and bullshit like that. It's closed loop water systems. Exactly. But either way, good. You probably make a lot of money. I think it's a decent amount. What do you make? So at the data center job, I bring in about 3 ,300 a check. So 66 a month net. Yeah. In San Antonio, honestly, kind of cheap. Major city, what is it?

3:56fourth or fifth most populated? I think fifth in the country, maybe sixth. Something like that. It's like a mil. No, it's more than that, but yeah, it's cheap. You can stretch that pretty far. And then the zoo, why are you doing zoo things? Why not? Are you sure they don't put you in and then we just observe a lesbian in her natural habitat? Yes, I'm pretty sure. No, I don't actually work at the zoo for zoo purposes. I do injection molding. What? Injection molding. It's like plastic. It fills into a mold. For what? For like toys and stuff. Oh, that's fun. So the zebras can be all zebraatic and whatnot.

4:33Yeah, yeah. No, it's more like little kids. Good. Yeah. Good, good, good. You're a vocal fry champion, aren't you? How much do you make in that job? I make a band a month. That's a thousand. You know the Vox? What you got next? I mean, no. Uh-huh. You know the Vox? So I get that as a stipend. If I've translated my ethnic rap music. rap music is crazy. It is. You like that? Yeah. Bam, bam, bam, boom, bam, boom, bam, bing, bing, bing, oh, oh my God. No, but that's my stipend and then I get seven and a half percent of gross sales. What does that average out on a monthly basis? So I'm ante up annually.

5:17So I've only been doing it like three months. Can we ring in Tyler real quick? This is very important. This is very important. Oh, man. Just hold on. Oh, here he comes. You know, you love him, especially if you're a Hammer Elite member, one of our favorite producers. Come on in, Tyler. Come on in, Tyler. I just, I need permission. He said he makes a band for one of his jobs, and I said, oh, I know what that is through my translating from ethnic rap music. Am I excused in saying that? Yeah. Okay, perfect, because I was invited to the cookout, right? No, no, you were invited to the cookout, so you could.

5:55Invited to the cookout is insane, bro. I got insane, bro. He had a Dewey on his head. I had a Dewey on my head. It's true. He's invited to the cookout. He's valid, bro. He gave him a Dewey, bro. That's crazy. Dewey, bro. He made Kool-Aid the right way, bro. Sugar? Mix that bit? Come on, bro. It's true. He knows what a bad is. We're getting them cultured, bro. We're getting them cultured. I got you, bro. I got you, bro. That was a weak dap. What's love? What's love? Thank you, Tyler. All I'm going to say is the snap after the dap tells me all I need to know, bro. Sorry for the detour. I just need you to know you don't have to cancel me for saying that.

6:28And now we're good. Uncanceled once again. Yeah. So it looks like it's a total, well, yeah, the gross sales. The percentage, like what is averaging out? So doing, like I get access to all the reports and everything. So I would say it's about an extra right now, 600 a month. But I'll ante up at the end of the year. Uh-huh. It's handed out at the end? So it stacks up all year? Yeah. Well, I can pull from it earlier, but I'm just not. Why? I don't know. I haven't thought to. Okay. So$8 ,200, right? Yeah. Seems about right. That's what hits your account on a monthly basis if you withdraw what you should?

7:04Well, I don't want to withdraw from that, the 7.5%. Why? Sitting there at 0%. Well, the guy, like the owner, he uses a lot of that for like operation stuff. It's your money. I mean, yeah, but I don't know. Pull it. I'm going to get it at the end of the year. I'm just going to let you know. Yeah. Little spoiler. If you're on the show, you're f***ed. You need the extra money. You don't get approved to come on Financial Auditor unless you're f***ed. You need the extra money. Well, I can make more extra money for my main job than that. Well, either way, it's money you earned. Yeah, yeah. Pull it. Okay, okay, okay.

7:38I'll talk to him to get it pulled. Talk to him? You don't have access? Well, no. The way it works is he has to fill this form thing. It's like a whole process. Okay, good. And you'll do that on a monthly basis. It's 8 ,200. Okay. Yeah? Yeah. Does that sound about right to you? Yeah. If I look in here, will that look about right? Yep. Yeah, looks about right. And then you spent basically all of it, it seems. Okay. So what's going on here? So pretty much, if you think about it, it's actually kind of all your fault for the reason I'm here. Because I invited you? A lot of my problems in debt and stuff are all surrounded around this one car.

8:17Did I sell you a car? You didn't sell me this car, no. But it's a Jeep Compass. And see, as an avid fan of the show. Why did Jeep Cherokee? I know. And I couldn't afford the Jeep Cherokee. So I got the Jeep Compass. And it has pretty much financially ruined me over the last two years. What happened? Was it new? Was it used? It was used. Okay. How used? 60 ,000 miles. Okay. Yeah. What was the condition? That's miles. What was the condition? I got it in perfect condition. And I was traveling a lot for my old job then. In this perfect condition, did you get that approved by multiple mechanics before you purchased it independently?

8:55One mechanic, but he's not my buddy. Well, fuck you, dude. It cannot be a personal attachment mechanic. It never can be. You should never use a mechanic, you know. It just gets weird. I mean, it could be good for a quick emergency, sure. But if you're actually trying to get shit done, I want to go with someone who's out there grinding. There's no personal impact. Yeah, so. So you got to. Jeep that I've never had that I never said to get what did you buy it for? Here's the thing. I, coming out of high school, was super into you, Graham, me, Kevin, all these guys. Okay, high school, I was literally just starting, by the way.

9:34Yeah, yeah. I'm glad to know lesbians are into me. I had gotten the Jeep Compass and at the time, I was in Graham Stephan discords talking to people about which would be a good investment and stuff. And they said Jeep Compass? Well, no, because I was talking about like, oh, you know, Caleb has a Jeep Cherokee. That makes more sense. And so I got the Jeep Compass, and it was good for like maybe eight months. And then it's been a... FaceTime Graham Stephan. That's a subtle flex. You don't think we're friends? I don't know if he'll answer. It's early. It's time. He's West Coast time. I'm actually such a big fan.

10:09This is crazy. I don't know if he'll answer. Oh, my goodness. He actually did. Hey, Graham. Oh, my God. I have a question real quick, and I did assume that. I am talking to, we're calling him Logan. Hi, girl. I'm a huge fan. What's up, man? Do you have 30 seconds real quick? Yeah, I haven't had my coffee yet, so sure. Well, you know, Logan is on this show, and he blames all his financial mistakes on buying a Jeep Compass, of which apparently Caleb Hammer, Graham Stephan, and who else did you say? Like Andre Gilles? Meet Kevin. Meet Kevin? Okay, meet Kevin. Come on. I don't even know him. But he says we recommended to buy a Jeep Compass.

10:59I don't remember ever recommending this. Did you? No. When did I recommend a Jeep Compass? No, Graham didn't recommend a Jeep Compass. I was in your Discord whenever I was buying it, and I was messaging the guys on there, and they were like, yeah, seems like a good idea. Big difference between me No, yeah, yeah It's a big difference What are you talking about, Logan? No, no, no I was just taking the seal of approval From the gurus of the field If the internet says it's a good idea It probably is Exactly, bro As an iPad kid, you know I gotta take that Okay Well, thank you, sir He could've done worse He could've done worse Jeeps No, dude, it's a nightmare There is no worse There is no worse That's where you're wrong.

11:44It's awful, dude. It's so bad. I've put like 7K into it and just repairs. Not to mention I still owe 13 on it. And it's just bad after bad after bad after bad. That's not Graham's fault. That's not my fault. And I can't speak for meet Kevin. I've never talked to him. No, no, it's just your fault. Oh, it's just my fault. Sorry, Graham. He says it's just my fault. I'm not holding you. Graham, I was doing well when I was just watching Graham. Then you came out. Dude, I'm just saying. When I was just watching Graham, I had the 10K. I had my Fidelity set up. I was doing well off you, Graham. And then the Chase rewards?

12:15I got a hell of money off of that, bro. Thanks for you. But then I got involved. Yep, and then Caleb got involved. You had to pay for it, Caleb. Now it's your responsibility. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so I think Caleb should owe me the 13 for the Jeep, the 8 for the damages, pain and suffering. That's going to be at least another 25. Let's call it an even 50. Even 50. Don't forget insurance. Oh, and insurance. Gas. You know, my insurance was$4 ,20 a month. Yes. Graham, thank you, bro. I think he owes me 50. I'm on your side then. We'll call it 50, right? Round it out Thank you, Graham Go enjoy your coffee now, Graham You're welcome Have a good audit Do you feel bad?

12:52No! Explain to me how this was my fault, please Because I haven't heard that yet What do you not understand? You got it, Jeep Compass Why was that my fault? What did financial audit recommend to Jeep Compass? I mean, I said, yes, go get it approved by Okay, what did you buy it for? Let's get some more details Okay, so I Originally, I was listed for$25 I got it for$21 and then I've paid it down to 13 now. But I had to drive it a lot all across America. So I put a lot of miles on it. That was your fault. Yeah. How many miles did you put on it? Did Caleb Hammer call you and say, go put a ton of miles on a car?

13:26I put 65 ,000 miles on it. I mean, I drove my Jeep Cherokee from Austin to Michigan and back many times. And I drove to Michigan as well. I had a couple. Well, that's weird. I had a couple issues. Yeah. And that's that my battery died just like a couple times throughout the years. but that's like a couple hundred dollar fix. The battery was the least of my worries. The battery, the overheating problems, the radiator, the cooling lines, everything. I replaced every hose, every... I replaced the whole engine in it. It was a nightmare. Why would you do that? Was that even worth it? Like, would I necessarily recommend replacing an entire engine?

13:55Well, so the reason it made sense to replace the entire engine was at the time I had blown a head gasket and I had a warped head. And so it was cheaper to buy a new engine for me than it was to get that repair. and I actually got an engine with lower miles on it and such. And I had that inspected by another mechanic as well. But my confusion still is exactly the point of why it was my fault. Well, if you think about it, you're advising people on the internet about money and then you go on here and you advertise this lifestyle of financial responsibility. Yeah. Oh no. I'm just imitating. It's evil.

14:32But what exactly was my fault specifically? I would say that advocating for a certain type of vehicle that is reliable and getting it checked out by an actual mechanic and all these sort of things, it's exactly what I followed and I got screwed on it. What did you buy it for? 21. I mean, listen, I'm okay with like a$10 ,000 beater to get from point A, point B oftentimes. But just like in personal finance, one, it's all personal. There's no one size fits all. if you're a national traveler in every way whatsoever for a job, am I necessarily recommending a$10 ,000 car? No. 21, sure, probably. I don't know if you got a good deal specifically.

15:09If it's in a price range for, I don't know what your income was, like that's something we could do and you took it to a mechanic, you did well there, but you'll put a lot of miles on it. Who knows if it was worth 21 though? Was it worth 21? I would say it was worth 21, yeah, at the time. It's just, well, things ended up going wrong with it later on. Yeah, how long did you have it before things started going on? I would say about six months. And then I remember I was in Oklahoma for some work thing. And then it was just time and time again, the AC went out and it started overheating and all these other issues.

15:42It was an absolute nightmare to deal with and constantly breaking down$300 toes. Sounds like you got a 21 ,000-hour car and you got unlucky. Yeah, it was a real nightmare. Do you think the alternative to that is spending a 50 ,000-hour car you can't afford? No. Then what the f*** are you saying? I'm saying just go ahead and slide me the 50. We'll call it even. Oh, shut up. No, now I actually have a truck. Well, see, so I don't give a f***ing. Why do you have a truck for this? You don't do truck stuff. Sometimes I have to do stuff. You don't do truck stuff. It's a Ford Ranger. It has a ton of covers.

16:11It's good to ask my lunch.

16:16But I do have to haul some things. I feel like a lot of my issues aren't actually with financial literacy and with the online courses and all these other things that are available online. I feel like a lot of my issues have just been with the personal responsibility because I've been very responsible and financially literate with my money in the beginning. And it ended up turning into a lot of just burying my head in sand and mistakes that were mostly surrounded around like not paying attention to money. So I don't think financial literacy is really the problem. Okay. How much debt do you have today?

16:51In total, 60. basically 64 so you're off by 4 which is a substantial number 4 ,000 is not insignificant there's a little bit of financial illiteracy there if we don't know how much debt we have I mean you are close I'll give you credit for that but how are you so f*** today? no not Caleb Hammer like I said a lot of my mistakes they did start with the Jeep to be frank the Jeep started the lot of it when did the Jeep start? two years ago okay when did it end? it's still in my f***ing apartment It's there, but it's not your main thing. You're not putting money into it because you don't need to because you're driving another car now, your truck.

17:28So when did the Jeep end? Well, the repairs are still ongoing. The truck came almost a year ago. Okay, so for the last year, you didn't need, required to put money into the Jeep. Yeah, but I need to sell it. I agree, but it wasn't like a requirement for life and living. But I need to have transportation that's reliable. But you have that. You have the truck. Yeah. So what are you talking about? That doesn't mean we're putting money into the Jeep this last year. as 100 % an assessment for life. I haven't been putting money into the Jeep for the last year trying to get it up to sell. Then what the f*** are you talking about?

17:54Well, I know that, but you don't have to. But I need to be able to get rid of it. I got to repair it. I agree, but how much money is worth actually putting into it versus just letting it go? Are you f***ing what's your credit score? Well, I don't know. What's your credit score? My credit score, I'd have to look it up on Experian. It's like 660 or something like that. Okay, I don't necessarily want a voluntary repo necessarily. We could pay it off. I mean, you make good money. You could tackle. I'm guessing that's the 13K? Yeah. You can tackle that. That's well within your ability to tackle that guy.

18:26Even if you sold it now for a few thousand, it wasn't absolutely great. You're at least not putting more money into it when you can be putting more money towards the debt. I see you're trying to make the difference. I tried to do that. Where did all the money go that you made senior year of high school? Because, again, that was only three years ago. You're young. So I'm not going to lie. I went on a little bit of a bender. Okay? I'll be for real. What, you went full alcoholism before 21? No, that was... Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Traveling, women, food. Women? Yeah, dude. What are you doing, you f***ing gooner?

18:59I'm proud of you, but what are you doing? Women are my demise, bro. Me too. Me too. So much stupid purchases, so much stupid money. I agree. Why do you think I get canceled once a month? Hell yeah, bro. It's an addiction. Latina baddies are my addiction. It's like I'm addicted to this shit. I don't know. I can't explain it to you, bro. You're addicted to bitches punching you in the face? Well, yeah, okay. God damn it. San Antonio. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. But no, yeah, with a lot of these, like, the debt that got racked up, it's all within like an eight-month span. Racking up debt for racks? What are you paying to come?

19:32No, no, no, no, no. You look like a dude that paid to come. What the f***? No, bro. I would have a girlfriend, and then I would just spoil the f*** out of them. Why? Sugar Daddy? No, not Sugar Daddy. What are you doing? How much are you spending on? You made, like,$120 ,000, it sounds like, before graduation. I made more in my last job, actually. No, before graduation. Oh, yeah, yeah. How much were you spending on what for these women? I don't know, Airbnbs or hotels or flying to places, food, bougie dates, like that. Okay, and how much did you spend on this? What, so you could get your dick sucked?

20:03No, I got that anyways. But would they have stayed? I don't know. I take care of my own. That's all it is. I just, you know, it's nice to be able to give them stuff and do things with them. I mean, going into debt to be a simp is a bit. It's a little pathetic. Well, a lot of the debt actually would come. I would make the bad financial decision. I mean, I'm being told. And then later in the month, I would be like, oh. In America, half of every dollar spent on brand medicines goes to entities who don't make them. While middlemen like PBMs and 340B hospitals drive up costs, Biopharma is investing$500 billion in new infrastructure and manufacturing here at home and helping patients buy medicines directly at lower prices.

20:46Tell Washington to end middleman markups and put American patients first. Visit phrma.org slash middleman. I don't have enough for XYZ. I'm being told you moved to San Antonio, took a job pay cub, and you immediately, because you matched with a woman. Oh, no, I forgot I told you about that. This is what a simp does. Okay, so, no, no, no, no, there's more to this. There's more to this. There's more to this. So that chick didn't actually cost me much money. She had an OF. She did. That was bad, bro. She was a freak. But no, I... In what way? In what way? Bro, she did degenerate. So like with me, she was pretty normal.

21:24That could be great. I remember I came home one day and she was like, she was at my place. And I was like, what are you doing? And she was like, you got to go to the animal store. And I was like, the fuck? And she was like, for my only... I was taking a bag. She had to go buy crickets to squish between her toes to film for a request.

21:47Oh, that's not degenerate shit. That's f***ed up shit. That's what I'm saying, bro. Okay, because I like degenerate shit. I can get behind some degenerate shit. Don't get me wrong. But that shit was f***ing weird, bro. She was on some f***ing... And you took a pay cut and all this shit just to be with your old princess. I took the pay cut because I was doing the big box contracts, right? But robotics has always been my passion. And so I wanted to go into the field of robotics. And so I just applied hundreds and hundreds of jobs. and then I got in contact with this one owner of like a local automation company and they were like, hey, you seem cool.

22:20You want to come do work for us? And I was like, bet. And I got from the money I was making all the way down to$21 an hour. Yeah, I mean, that kind of makes sense, especially if you're continuing to simp. Let's see her. Huh? Let's see her. Oh, I don't have the chick. You don't know her Instagram. I'm blocked on there. I'm not. I mean, I can try to find it. Try to find it. I'm blocked on there. I don't know her exact name. I don't know her name. Yeah, I know her name. I'm being told you spent$17 ,000 in just two months on women. Airbnbs and all this stuff. Oh, bull****. I couldn't. I scrolled to the bottom.

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24:36it shows you exactly where your money's going every single month. Spending, subscriptions, and savings all in one simple dashboard. Everything you need and nothing you don't. And when you download DollarWise today, you'll get six to try for free, plus three months for just$9.99. So you can finally take control and see what your money's been doing behind your back. Click below to get started. But no, the$17 ,000 in two months, that actually had nothing to do with women. I was single then. That was actually, oh dude. I was f***ing, I remember those two months I was traveling around back and forth from here to Chicago and then I had to stay in Chicago for several of those weeks and I was with my boys and we just went ham we were working nights and so on our days off we were just out and about I was buying a bunch of stupid s*** I bought the Metaglasses when those first came out you know, new phone, new iPad, this, that and the other it was just a bunch of tech stuff mostly and then a lot of booze I feel like that's why you are where you are today.

25:37Because if you had all that money still and you didn't blow it all on women, booze, tech, friends. But the debt didn't start until I got the Jeep. The debt wouldn't have been there. If you didn't blow all that money, you would have bought the Jeep in cash. You would have done the repairs in cash. You would have cut your losses, got a different car in cash. If you didn't blow all your money, this wouldn't be a problem. You were 18. You made a lot of money. You considered yourself financially sound. I mean, you told me you were watching Graham and others and whatnot. back then. Yeah. So, and I guess me, even though we barely just started.

26:08However, even still, if you did, you didn't follow what anyone would have said. You could have set yourself up for an incredible success. How much did you have in savings at your height? Before you f***ed this all. So it was a little over 10K. It was like almost 11. And then in Fidelity, it was like three. 3 ,000? Yeah. What? This doesn't make any sense. And Robinhood, it was like another band. And then, I kept a lot of money on PayPal for some weird reason. How much? another band or two. This doesn't make sense. What does that get us to? Like 5, 7? I don't remember at this point. It was like 15, 16K.

26:42That math didn't add up. But either way, you made it sound like you made like$140 ,000 or so junior, senior year combined. No, it wasn't$140 ,000. It was like$120 ,000. $120 ,000? How did we only have$15 ,000 to show? Call it$100 ,000 because you were like low, low, low, low, low, low, low, low. at 10 % growth, not putting anything in, not putting anything in at all. At all? Yeah. And just letting that hundred set for 41 years to 65. You don't hold your whole income. What do you mean? You had no overhead. You were in high school. You had low overhead. Yeah. Very low. Fine. Call it 80. Because you could have set aside the vast majority of the income.

27:26Vast majority of your situation. You lost out on$4 million. $4 million. and now it's not only that, but you're negative 65. Yeah. From having$4 million you could have had. And by the way, probably closer to 20 if you kept contributing throughout. You know, 20. $20 million to now a negative net worth of 65. And yet you are watching all the financial channels of which who no one recommends. People follow those channels. They turn their lives around. They get massive investments. They get good credit cards. They live good lives. Yeah. And then you show up at 21, negative$65 ,000. I got the same. Nothing to show forth and potential STDs.

28:07No STDs. I got checked. Well, that means you didn't live enough. Honestly, I got burnt out, to be frank. Like, I was just tired. Or the tip of your dick was burning. Which one? The tip of my dick is never burnt. I never got STDs. Then you never left. You wrap it up. But, no. I was burnt out from all the work of everything. I'd been, since I was 16, working, you know, 60 to 80 hours a week. And, I mean, I still am. I mean, you crashed out with your family, apparently. I mean, just, I don't think you're living your life like crazy. Oh, yeah. Crashing out with our family. There's been so many events.

28:34Hating all your exes and all this craziness. Blowing all your money. There's so many situations throughout this entire process that at the time just. Why'd you crash out with your family? I'm learning you. I need to learn everything about you. So my family and I, we've never been close. They're not like, I wouldn't call it family. They're just people I grew up with. What? Like, it's not like that. Like, I got two of my close friends. They're my family. Well, they ask you for money all the time, even though you're negative 65, I'm being told. Yeah, yeah, no. Luckily, that's mostly stopped. They have borrowed a lot of money from me.

29:04Well, now you're poor even though you make money. Yeah. Which is ridiculous. They're still poor to me. All for the vagina. It wasn't all for the vagina. Maybe like 60%. Vagina booze traveling. Come on. Power the pussy, man. Yeah, but no, with the family thing. Except I don't spend money for that. I never had to, like, work. I mean, you don't have to. I've had a lot of sex. Yeah. That's a weird statement. No, no. No, we're goon brothers. We're goon brothers? We're goon brothers. I've had a lot of sex. I've never had to do anything. But when you have a girl. Get them a McFry. When you have a girl and they make, comparatively to you, almost nothing, you don't want to put them in the same lifestyle you have?

29:47In marriage and engagement or really far into the relationship. Not an old chick who's squishing crickets. Like I said, that one I didn't. That was a six-month thing. It was on and off. That one wasn't as serious as my most recent one. So what's your current living situation then? What at least do we live in? If you're just breaking up with everyone endlessly, we're living alone finally. So yeah, I live alone. I have an apartment in San Antonio. It's a two bedroom. One of the bedrooms are in my lab. And when was your last breakup? Two months ago. Did that push you to this apartment? No. So I actually, the one before this was a lot cheaper and I was going to stay in there.

30:22But with her, she ended up moving in with me pretty early on. But you just broke up. Yeah, we just broke up. That was like a year and a half ago. Let's see her. Okay. Let's see what he pulls. I have pictures of her. Let's see what he pulls. I don't like... Okay. If what I said... First of all... I've had a lot of sex sounds weird. I have pictures of her. Also sounds very weird. I don't... Well, not like that. What the fuck? You know, it's a reason I haven't deleted them. But I don't pull. Let's make that very clear. I have no game. He's really bringing the expectations down. That's her. But she's cute.

30:50I know she is. Give me more pictures. Oh, okay. Maybe on Instagram or something. Like, that's... But I find, like, you know, just like the morning messy look cute. So like almost anyone would look cute in that. A lot of my pictures of her are like that. Just bring up her Instagram. I'm blocked on Instagram. You're blocked? Why do you always have bad breakups? I've never been blocked by one X. That's when we went on a date. She's cute. I know she is. Be careful going through my photos. You might see some shit you don't want to. What would you have? There's no dickies. Are you saving dickies? No, I don't save dickies.

31:24What the f***? You might forget to, I don't know, there's weird shit in there. What would be weird? Well, now I want to look. No, what the f***? Don't do that. You're going to see some weird shit in your garage. What's weird to you? Tell me what weird is before I stumble upon something. I don't know. You might see some f***ing personal shit. I don't know. Some f***ing, I don't know, me and her. I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking at. They're wires. Okay, here she is again. No, she's cute. You pull okay? I don't pull. You pull okay? I don't pull. They come to me and I don't know how it happens.

31:55It just does. I have no game. I'll admit that openly. Zero game. You know how I got her? What the fuck is that? Oh. I don't know. That's my shit. This is actually, I would say, one of the most boring camera rolls I've ever gone through. Shut the fuck up. It's not boring. Those techs are exciting. You know how much China would pay for this shit? It's just cats. My cats are adorable. They are adorable, but it's not weird. I was hoping to see like a line of c*** or c***. No, I don't c*** with c***. That's actually a talking point of why we broke up. No, she's cute. I know she's cute. So she had a problem with c*** and I told her I've had a lot of, I lost my friend to it.

32:36My mom was c*** going on. You lost your friend c***? He's not dead. He went schizophrenic and now he's homeless and just on the streets. Jeez, and you think that was because of c***? I know it was because he lived with me and I watched it happen. It does lead to higher chances if you're doing those kind of drugs when we're young. With her, and dude, it's so bad. I told her when we got together, I said, you can't be with me, Andrew. And there was like constant, every time she would go home, she would end up doing it. It would cause issues. She would do something. Every time you guys went home, she was snorting?

33:04No, no, no, no, no. She went to her hometown. What, with her family? She was like, let me get some c***? With her ratchet ass friends that are over there. And I would always say. Why would you stay with a c***? Well, that's the thing. Just flat out, why would you? So she kept, she would go like three, four months without doing it. She would go back home with her wretchedest friends and she would say, we're not going to do it. And then she ended up doing it. But the reason we broke up was because of alcoholism. She would like get super drunk and go on these like four to five hour tirades of just like talking, throwing, breaking.

33:34She keyed my Jeep, poured water in my bed, smashed my alarm. She keyed your Jeep. Yeah, bro. And you know why? You broke up with her. Yes. Good. Because she sounds like a crazy. You know why she keyed my Jeep? Why'd she key your Jeep? So we went out to get some food and I was closing out with the barkeep, you know, getting a couple beers. I tipped$4 on a$21 bill. And she said that I was showing the chick bartender special treatment and that's what led to that. $4 of special treatment? That's what the f*** I said, bro. How much was she spending on c***? That's what I want to know because also she barely f***ing worked, so that was all my money.

34:08Boring camera roll. Okay, well, I'm wrapping it up because I've f***ing scrolled forever. I didn't get this. See, there wasn't one weird thing. See, a line of a thing, like that would have been incredible. All right, what do you think your financial score is? Zero to 10, zero being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best. I'm going to go with a two. Just because I have some in 401k and I have a decent income. Income doesn't really, you can be making a low income and still be in a good financial place. It's what you can be. You can make millions of dollars a year and be absolutely beyond.

34:36Well, if income doesn't count, then I'd say one. Okay, if you want your Hamer financial score, see where you stand in the world of finances at calebhammer.com. Take the assessment. It is free and you will see where you need to improve, where you're doing well. So take it. Why not? And if you don't want to be like a guest who ends up on the show, make sure you download the DollarWise budgeting app, my preferred budgeting app. It is great. Tens of thousands of people have changed their lives with it. You can take a free trial and if you like it, sign up for the annual version to save a lot of money.

35:00And when you do, only for about a month or two left, I will sign my budget-friendly cookbook mailed directly to you and then it's going to go away forever. You giggling? Yeah. You giggling at. Your cookbook, bro. It's funny. Why? You look so cute. What? Oh, this is the big car. Dun, dun, dun. Yeah, that's the Jeep. It has been a nightmare. This is the one you blame me for. Yeah, it's entirely your fault. And none of your own actual decisions. I'm just saying, you know. Because you chose to put a bunch of money into it before you got your truck. Yeah. Which one have you put into it? I put in almost$8 ,000.

35:39That was your choice. Yeah, fixing it and trying to get it right. and then I was going to sell it and get a loan for the difference. Yeah. Because you're still putting more money into it to bring it to a place where you can sell instead of just, oh, okay, cut our loss and let's just focus on paying on the debt. Yeah. Like how much, for every dollar you put in, how much, how many dollars are going towards the actual sales price, right? Well, I looked it up online and as it is now, I have a couple more things to do. I have to fix the key from the Latina. But I think I can get like eight. Latinas love key in cars.

36:09I don't know why, bro. I'm like, I'm glad she didn't do it to the truck. I was like, okay, you didn't do it to the truck. But yeah, that pissed me the fuck off. They're taking advantage of the flexible motion that they have before they hit 25. God damn it. Oh. Turn it into the torta. No, man. I've been to San Antonio. You wanna get all the big old women down in San Antonio? Man, them chitrolls are the bomb. No, definitely, yeah. She was hardcore with it. And the worst part was I had to wake up for work the next day. And she was yelling at me until like 2, 3 in the morning. And that's whenever she poured water all over the bed so I couldn't go to sleep.

36:41Why were you with this woman? I've never been with someone that has done 1 % of these things. And then she punched me in the head twice. She threw all my shit, broke it, smashed my alarm clock. I'm calling her in the post show. You can't. I don't know. She blocked me on there. She doesn't want to talk to me. I have a phone. She doesn't want to talk to me, bro. She won't. I will. Bro. That'll be fun. Stay tuned for that. She made it clear. I don't know. I don't even want to f*** with it anymore. I'm just kind of tired of that, of women in general. I'm good on them. You know what I mean? You're going men.

37:16You know, I was actually joking when we were in the green room. I was like, it'd be so much easier if I was gay. One of my, like, day one. Well, yeah, so you were talking to very gay Colton. Yeah. One of my day one homies, my gummy, if you will, he's married now. And I was talking to him, and I was like, damn, bro, I wish I could switch teams. It'd be so much easier. Stick it in a dude. I don't know. Why not? I'm good on that. but unfortunately that's right I'm sorry it's just I hate y 'all so much what's the interest rate on this card on that one it's gonna be 8 % that was also not my fault nor did I ever say to go get an 8 % loan what 7 % or 18 % I forgot what it was you got this a couple years ago yeah yeah I don't know that was the lowest interest rate I could get probably about 6 % is what you would have gotten yeah but that I was only on my income I was I'd never had my parents car insurance or anything for history and so I don't know What's your difference for history?

38:10Like most people are on their parents' concerns when they're like 16 to 18. Why weren't you? So they have a history. I'm not cool with them. Why aren't you cool with them? It's a lot, bro. Okay, so my mom took us everywhere growing up, you know, place to place to place. We moved every like eight months to a year. And we were never, ever stable anywhere. And so everything I've done and everything I've built has all been with just me. So she was always kind of just like a place I stayed sometimes. and it would just be like that. Such weird dynamics with everyone. Is it not an odd thing that every single person you've had an interaction with in like a more close relationship, family and girlfriends, everything ends up in crash out blocks?

38:50Yeah, it sucks pretty hard. Except my day one homies. Those guys are ride or die. Uh-huh. For now, you're 21. Yeah, well, I've known since sixth grade. They're cool. You're 21 for now. Yeah. I don't know. Trust me, life comes. I mean, I rock solo down here. They're all far away. Exactly. I rock solo here in San Antonio, and I got to say, I'm in my best when I'm alone. Ever since the breakup, I've been doing a lot better. You owe$13 ,730.15 on this. 8 % interest rate,$386.36 minimum monthly payment. It ain't cheap. No, it's not. For your income, that's certainly okay, but it's just sitting there doing nothing.

39:27Yeah. So you looked at, okay, if I do this, if I do this, I can sell. What's the number you're seeing? So I think I can get about$8 ,000 for it once I finish this last year. After you already put in eight. Yeah. And then I can't get a loan for the difference. See, this is, again, if you listen to the show, if you listen to any of the other people, you would have known that, okay, maybe if you owe$13 ,000 on this and it costs eight to sell for eight. Well, that was like a year ago. Cut your loss. Because you got the truck already anyway. How much more do you have to put into it to bring it up to that?

39:59To bring it to where I can sell it? To eight, yeah. Okay, so it's going to - How much more money? Oh, it's going to be about 500 bucks. Okay. $300 for the paint and then$200 for... Do it and get rid of it. Yeah, that's my current plan. I've been trying for a while, but I'm just now finally about to. I just got to pay it down some more before I can sell it. $600. Okay, so this is your Ford. Oh, yeah, that's the truck. And this is much more expensive. Yeah, it is. And I got to be honest, this was a little bit, or a lot of it, of a what I want purchase. I've always wanted a Ford Ranger. Why? So you might be big and shit, but you ain't no fucking Ford fucking Ranger.

40:33Well, when I was a kid, I grew up in East Texas. And so, you know, it's like I don't have trucks. And I just really like the Ford Rangers. They're sick. It's like a tiny truck. You get good gas mileage, but all the benefits of a truck. Okay. Well, you owe$33 ,723. I know. What do you think it's worth? I think it's worth. I looked it up on Kelly Blue Book. I think it's worth about$28 ,000. What? What are you getting? What did we do? We have$16 ,188. Oh, yeah. I probably don't have all the packages, right? Okay. So,$20? 20? Is that what you said you saw? No, 28. 28? Really? Are you sure? Yeah, because it's the Ford XLT.

41:09The package just brought it up that much, over like$12 ,000. It's the XLT with a tunnel cover with a slight lift. No, we did your VIN. We would have it. Oh. We did his VIN, right? Oh, you didn't send a VIN. We always do. Oh, that's my fault. But yeah, I looked it up and it was about 28. But this, I want to keep. That's fine. I mean, with your income situation, if it was just this, we can deal with it. Yeah, so that's your plan. It's the old Jeep that you put more money into than you'll ever get back. And we have credit cards galore that we're about to go into. Well, the credit cards. So if it was just this, I would agree.

41:41For your income, it's fine. Yeah. The reason I'm not worried about the truck is I'm going to get rid of the Jeep pretty soon. I just got to pay it down. And then the credit cards are what my main focus is right now. So the plan is credit cards, Jeep, and then. Yeah, you spent everything you made. Well. Basically, the dollar. You didn't necessarily overspend, but you didn't underspend either. So what's the interest rate on this? That one I refinanced to 9%. It was at 13. It's the best I could get. Yeah, because your debt to income, well, your debt to income's not maybe the most horrendous in the world.

42:13It's probably not great. But the thing is, you do have bad debt. Yeah. And a lot of it. And it was worse. And probably young credit because you have so many cards you've opened. You'll see. My credit was a lot. Nine's insane. My total credit usage was a lot worse than... You can get a car loan for 6 % right now. I don't know a 21-year-old can get 6%. 21-year-old, you're right. That is hard, but you're making it even harder by opening all these accounts, making your credit age so low. It was like an extra 5K. And you have substantial debt. Yeah. It was a lot worse. I paid it down, and so I might be able to refinance again here soon.

42:44We'll see. 9%. I'd wait for rates a little more. Yeah. So I was really happy to refinance, though. I did keep the payment the same. You can probably tell. But at 9%, it took off a lot of time. So I was really happy with that. Yeah. Yeah. It's$630.34. It's not too bad, honestly. The insurance is a little high. It's$330, which is probably pretty average for my age group. The Jeep insurance was$480 at one point, though. And that was monstrous. That sucked. It was more than the payment. Yeah, and the mid-monthly payment's chunky, too, because when we add these both together, we're talking we're at like$1 ,000 a month.

43:21And the insurance is$300. Now, luckily, you're bringing in$8 ,82 because you need to bring in all your income. Yeah. You really do. And luckily the income too is, it's one of those things that I'm able to control a lot. So like if I'm low one month, I can work more and make more money. Why aren't you always making more money? I am. Pay off your debt close. What? No, you just said you can make more. Yeah. I mean, I have down months. I have down months where I'm like. Wait, why is it down? Well, like that month, for example, is going through a breakup. If you can make more, why? I am. What do you mean?

43:49Well, why is there a down month then? Well, I was depressed after the breakup. Oh, dude, just literally download Grindr and stick it in a hole. You'll be so happy Dude no Okay hold on I have Tinder is cursed Okay I'm gonna tell you that right now That shit is cursed That's what led to that This chick And oh man Dude no Swipe on Tinder Stick it in Have yourself a couple rebounds I've been burned too many times bro I'm tired of women No no no I'm not saying go out there and date I'm saying go out there and See that's how you actually get a STD That's nice Put the condom on Or people that you trust How are you supposed to trust The one you meet on Tinder Huh Well build that relationship Then take it off Yeah I guess so But um I don't know.

44:26I'm just a songwomen right now. Like I said, download Grindr, but that's an even quicker way to STD work. Better than Sniffies. Yeah. You know Sniff? Huh? You know the Sniff? I thought you were talking about C***. Oh, no. But Grindr and C*** goes very well together. Oh, wow. That's a statement. What's this? Oh. The AT &T phone. Yeah. So that one. Okay. So this credit card. AT &T phone? You have a credit card? Okay, let me explain. Back up. So I got this card when I was with AT &T, right? And they were doing a promo. Hey, pay your bill through this credit card and you'll get$20 a month off your bill.

45:05Tight. And so I got that. And then what ended up happening is the Jeep repair came up. And that is the card that actually put the engine on. And that's where a majority of that comes from. And then, yeah, it's been really weird. I switched to T-Mobile and there's more complications with that that we can talk about. Bring it up on your phone. Bring what up? This. Because you didn't send a statement. You sent a screenshot. Oh, my fault. Someone who watches finance YouTubers doesn't know how to use these apps. No, I don't think there was anything on there is why. Here you go. No, you can download statements.

45:35There's two cards on there. There's monthly statements, big guy. There are monthly statements. Yeah. But I'm not with AT &T anymore. I switched to T-Mobile. That's exciting. Yeah, but there's actually... Okay, so balance has not really changed. I haven't really done any much, even though you said this is your focus. Well, I'm doing the snowball. Here's what no one warns you about. The end of the year is basically a health battle. You've got airports, delays, holiday chaos, sugar comas, and a sleep schedule that looks like a stock market crash. But that is why I start my mornings with AG1. One scoop a day and I'm covering foundational nutrition that actually supports me through this mess.

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48:32Yeah. That's insane. Yeah, I know. There's a lot of bad decision making. See how I just clicked view statements? Yeah. Yeah, that's how you do it. So if you come on the show, CalebPammer.com slash apply, actually send a statement. Well, there wasn't anything on there. Yes, there is. There's interest accruing. Yeah, yeah. $113.79. I get the total just like look of a year. Making minimum. How long do you think this takes to pay off minimum monthly payments only without any purchases? 113 minus 157, so 44. Roughly 120 months, so 10 years. 16 years with interest. I did the math wrong. 16, you did the math wrong.

49:12Math competitions were for nothing. A thousand hours in interest this year so far. Years end, that'll be close to two on one card alone. One out of many that we're gonna go through. That is my highest one. But barely, because there's many close to it. It's rough. That one is probably gonna... That's a rough one. What? Then you want to start a company soon? No, no, no. Oh, I'm being told he wants to leave the zoo job in here and start a robotics company soon. I do, I do. I want to do that after I pay off my credit cards. And have a year worth of emergency funds and a minimum if you're going to the world of starting a business.

49:44Yeah, I'll probably do that next summer. What? What? What do you mean? Wait, you're not paying off debt? You don't think so? I don't see any indication of. Oh, okay. No, yeah, I reckon I'll be done with the credit cards by like January, and then I'll get my bonus. What? In what way? I mean, we can go over the numbers. We are right now. I don't see it. And you'll have a full 12-month emergency fund? No, I won't have a 12-month emergency fund now. I'll probably have like a three to six. Which, by the way, I know the little savings emergency fund you have right now was completely blown yesterday.

50:18Yeah, okay. Funny. Booze. I'm not joking. Women. Friends. that's where all your hundreds of thousands you've made in your young life have gone and I'm to and to family I guess even though you say you're not close to them and I'm to believe that all these credit cards this will be paid off in a few months from now and then a 12 month emergency fund after that locked in for a second big guy you're zinned up and you're gone you're gonna find another flap you're gonna dive head in as you always have done they're telling me to not fuck with women until I pay this shit off and I was like this is a little key good idea Sure, until you don't.

50:54Like you said, you and I have the same problem. Yeah. We like women. Whoops. You will fall back in. God damn it. Luckily, I'm locked in, locked down. Yeah. With a good one, too. She cost you a lot? No. Really? No. Okay. We live together, but no. I mean, anything I do, she just does with me. So I guess, yeah, sure, if I'm going out to eat, it's double now. But that's not like crazy. Oh, dude, that was a big thing is whenever I finally switched from eating at home because the original deal was since she wasn't working, she was going to like cook and clean. That was like, you know, pretty good deal.

51:27The c***head? Yeah. Okay. Well, she, I wouldn't call her a c***head. Well, I mean, yeah, but. She was a c***head. She relapsed like four times in the course of a year and a half. Yeah. It was really hard though. It was emotional. It was really rough. These bad habits and stuff, I felt like we're, you know, eating out. Every month I was spending like over a thousand dollars eating out on bulls***. You know, for two people covering everything she needs covered, which, you know, is obviously not her. I should have not done that. But now I'm in that mode. I'm locked in. I'm going to get this shit done.

52:00I hope so. Temporary. We can all get locked in for a day, a week, a month. Well, see, I've done this before. I've done this before. You have. And that doesn't scream, okay, great, because that means we're not learning our lessons. We're not doing anything. We'll be here again. So that's why I'm just a little nervous. And again, if you blew your emergency fund yesterday. Oh, yeah, about that. So I was doing the Dave Ramsey band and then, you know, pay off debt. Why would you do that? A thousand dollars and then pay off debt. A thousand hours is not even close to enough. Well, because I know it's not, but what I'm saying is - Anytime people have been on this show throughout the three years that have done the$1 ,000 and then they end up in more debt than they were before they saved up$1 ,000.

52:34No, one month emergency fund or the money guy rule. Do you watch them? Yeah, I watched you on that. Okay. Okay. Well, watch the money guy too. They're good. They do highest deductible because$1 ,000 is nothing. He just hasn't changed it for decades. And now their argument because they want to stick to the rules in order to sell their stuff. Yeah. Is that, well, it's because it's just about changing behavior and getting a W. It doesn't matter. More people, you end up with worse debt in the end because no emergency is less than$1 ,000 and then you end up in more debt. So get that get that highest deductible highest deductible or a month, whatever you want to do.

53:06I was going to do, I was going to do. Either way, you blew it. Where? Oh, so I didn't, I didn't spend it. My homie is going to police academy and he's a newlywed, so he's down bad for cash right now. And last minute they dropped on him some big expenses, and so I spotted him. He's never asked for money before. It's an emergency fund, though. You can give. When you have more to give, that's when I do it. Now you're f***ed if something pops up. Then you're destroyed. No, I'll be straight. Next week, I'll put it back. You'll put it back with your income, maybe, based on the spending. I mean, we'll f***ing see.

53:38But two, what about, does he owe it back to you? Yeah, he said he's going to get me back. I told him, you know, just let me know when we're going to do it. But he's always been cool with me, and he's never borrowed money from me before. I trust him. I hope so. It's not about trust or if you can pay it back. That's all you had to your name. If something happens tomorrow, you're done. Well, I still have money in my account. How much? Like$1 ,000 total. But I paid all my bills. Like I said, it does nothing. What do you think an emergency is? It's not a bill. True. But I don't know. Mother car is running.

54:09I'm good on the car. I feel like I've had every possible bad thing that could happen this year. This is the thing. I should be maxed out. This is the thing. Yeah. Nothing feels scary when you haven't had an emergency before. I have. I've had all of them, bro. I had the dog surgery. I had someone die. Then having a thousand should terrify you. The car breakdown. Huh? Then having a thousand should terrify you. I really should. I guess I'm just jaded from it. Okay, Citi, pull up this. This is a double cash flow. Yeah, it's the same. You can just swipe on here. It's on the same app. See, there you go.

54:44but yeah so that one it was also car repairs this balance went up by the way since the statement you gave us it went up it's about the same $3 ,287.56 yep minimum monthly payment of$91.11 yeah those minimums get me man they always hit it the worst times yeah because you're putting everything on credit cards and this makes no sense of how you've lived your life and went from the most blessed position anyone could ever imagine. I wasn't blessed. I'd say I took it myself. Well, yeah, but you can, it's okay to be humble. Well, no, that's the thing is... 12 years to pay it off minimum. What? I was going to say, like, what you said, like, I had every possible bad thing happen, happen during those times.

55:33Not everything, but... Pretty much. You had some bad things. Listen, this will be a thousand a year, a thousand this year in interest. by the, so now we're at about 3 ,000. Wait, how is that one the same as the other one? That's crazy. No, no, no, not 1 ,000 this year so far by year's end. So we're talking 3 ,000 hours by year's end in interest. Fuck, that's tough. Yeah. No, but see on that one too. Half of your month of income from your main job. And I guess you used this card for your robotics lab in your house. Yes. $10 ,000 to$20 ,000. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So the lab itself is 10 to 20K. My lab is so f***ing sick, bro.

56:06If you saw it, it's so awesome. But I like to build robots and I build a lot of them all the time. It's a fun hobby and I actually made you a robot. It's in my bag. All right, let's see it. Okay, okay, okay. And I put the little booboo on just for you. Oh my gosh, I didn't know you were a. It's not mine. The word I don't want to say. Okay, so keep in mind, I only had four hours yesterday and I was left by like one hour. You didn't know you were coming on the show, then that? Huh? You didn't know you were coming on the show? I work a lot. Okay. Okay, but see - I have to plug it in? I only had time to do the essential parts.

56:40I was limited by print time. It says hammer. Hammer that dollar. Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. It's incredible. The money.

56:52Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this is kind of like my whole bit is I just make stupid robotics. And sometimes I do make actual robotics for work. This is what we're starting a business with next year? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The business is not this. Okay. And... So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, we could buy a house in Tulum. Get optioning those options. We could lose everything. Or let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart.

57:38That's the whole bit.

57:45To save you from heartbreaking the future, put your dick under there right now. Yeah, that probably would help my financial situation. Remove the little head and think with the big one. But we've all. Yeah, you're right out of the show Silicon Valley from HBO. I don't know what that is. You should watch it. Because you're like that. What do you mean? It's just all about you. You're every character in that show. How so? I don't know. This. I like building stuff. Well, I like won't get the references, so I won't say it. Oh, okay. No, I have a lot of robotics, and that's actually how I got into the job field that I'm in that is making the money is my personal projects.

58:16It was a robot arm. Yeah. Okay, PayPal credit. Hey, you learned how to send a statement this time. Yeah. Really proud of you. That one had stuff on it. Yeah, so the PayPal credit card, that one I originally got out for the flights, going back and forth to Vegas. And what I did was kind of stupid. They had like a zero interest thing. If it was work, did they not pay for it? No, it was for my girl. They paid for mine. I know. I should have said that we were married because I would have paid for it. Oh, fuck. But yeah, and so, yeah, I would take her to Vegas with me. And yeah, it was a thing. But I got my check from it, and I was going to pay that back, but it had zero interest.

58:55So instead, I paid another credit card. $2 ,363.95. Yeah, and there's some other bullshit on there. Minimum monthly payment,$77. You got Peacock. Oh, I need to cancel that, bro. Yeah, you do. It's Peacock. You should cancel it. But also, Peacock. You're spending on bullshit on a card you can't pay off that is accruing interest. That doesn't make sense. Yeah. So. $54.82 of interest accrued this month. I know it's rough. Peacock, I need to cancel. I don't like Love Island. That's for my ex. But there is a purchase on there that you'll probably roast me for. I don't see it. What is it? Okay, so we were talking about it in the green room.

59:31I got scammed. I got swindled. I got bamboozled. I got false advertised. Tell. Okay, so what happened was, because I just got to get it out there before you see it, is I was scrolling on IG, fine s*** popped up, and I was piqued my interest. And she was working integral, right? But in like a slutty dress. and I was like, that's pretty cool. Wait, wait, wait. Into, huh? Calculus. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So that's like, I was like, this is pretty cool. And she was like, if you want to see me do this, but naked, go on my ass. I've never been an ass guy. I've never done it. But I didn't even get to goon to it.

1:00:07I got scammed, okay? I was straight up scammed, bro. I swear to God, I didn't even get to goon. I go on there and I'm like, hell yeah. Shadi's about to solve a, you know, some equation. You didn't check the leak site first? I didn't. No, I should have. Real Gooner knows to check the leak sites first. I'm a new to OnlyFans. I've never done that before. And so I subbed, and it was just her tits. And I was like, well, this is fucking lame. Oh, you said titty. Yeah, but she wasn't doing math. So I was like, this is pretty lame. Like, I'm just saying, ladies out there, if you want to make some money, you know, maybe like, you know, calculate the resistance of a circuit while you're naked.

1:00:39Throwing it back. Huh? Are they nice? I mean, their boobs are cool. I'm just saying it would have been cooler if she was doing differential equations while doing it. I agree. Did you go through all her videos to make sure? I scrolled a little bit, yeah. And I got to be honest, I was duly disappointed. And I think I deserve a request. Yeah. You didn't come. No, I didn't. What? Yeah, I didn't. I was really disappointed because I was down bad because, you know, I was pressed after this breakup, you know, and I haven't had none in like two months. What about Shrift Club? That was always my reaction.

1:01:12Bruh. And then I went once with these people. You sound like my co-worker. No, then I went with these people and— What the fuck? It was fun. I've always thought of it to be a smelly, horrible... That's what it is. That place was smelly. Yeah. For what it's worth. What the fuck's the point of going to a strip club? And then I went with my girlfriend the next week. Yeah. Yeah, we got left answers together. You're joking. No, why would I? That's crazy, Wade. Can I just say I'm a gooner and then I don't goon in real life? She let you cuck her alive? That's crazy, Wade. No, we cucked each other. We were next to each other.

1:01:44You're like swingers. She was making out with a woman grabbing tits. That's crazy work, bro. Yeah, it was hot. Okay, I mean, that is kind of how we circle back to the lesbians. We like that. That we have common ground there. Yeah.

1:02:00So, yeah, that's fine. Go to a strip club with your boys. Hard pass. I think I'll stay in my lab. Brandon, Lindsay, and I will take you to a strip club. Bro, I don't want to go to a strip club. You won't go with me? I would go, but. You're telling me you will not go with me? You're a fan of the show and you will not go hang out with me at a strip club. Okay. How much money does it cost? We'll take care of it. If y 'all pay for it, then I would consider it. Yes, we'll cover the cover fee and we'll give you$100 in dollar bills. God damn it. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I got a Latina bias, though, so that's got to be noted.

1:02:35We might have to do this. They're very prevalent here. We're not that far from the border. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, some would suggest they're the vast majority. because most of them cannot speak English. That's incredible. Y 'all bless. Whether or not they're here legally, we do not know. Okay, we ball. I'm down for it. They're there. Dude, that's the most f***ed up thing Trump's done. I'll be deadass. He's trying to ban the Latinas. That's where I draw the line. Like, you know, make rich people richer and all that f***ed up. But when you try to get rid of the Latinas, I'm going to have to march in the streets.

1:03:06And I did. There's pics of me. I'm saying don't get rid of the Latinas, man. That's f***ed up. 15, 13 years to pay this one off. Oh, yeah, back to the net thing. So you're paying for the OF. Did you cancel your sub? Yeah, yeah, I did. Good. I canceled it, and I wanted a refund, but they're like, nah, you already saw it. Hold on. I have to vet you. I'm not looking at anything necessarily, but log into your OnlyFans right now. I'll show you, bro. I'm telling you, she didn't have math on there. It's f***ed up. I honestly really feel like I got scammed. All right, here's her page. Oh, I think it already...

1:03:40That's not what I'm vetting. I don't want to see her page That's not what I'm vetting I don't have any subscriptions on me bro Check He got a message from one lady this morning They all message you Yes but that means you subbed at some point No they message you bro She's Asian showing hole I know but they don't message you unless Asian showing hole is crazy They don't message you unless you have like subbed at one point Oh well You can check my subs We got two We got three Shut the fuck up Aha. I'm not subbed. You have previously. To suggest this was your first is not true. You successfully subscribed to Margot.

1:04:21That must have been a long-ass time ago. It was a while ago. It must have been like 17 or something. And she's very busty. Who doesn't like titties, bro? We circled back to that. Yeah. It would be cool if they did Matt, though. I'm just saying. One of them was Asian. I think that was the supposedly math one. Well, yeah. She disappointed her culture. Apple card. Bring up your Apple card for me. Okay. Oh, yeah. So this one, I racked that one up when I got the truck, unfortunately. And also, I know you said on your show to, like, un-add all your credit cards off your Apple wallet. I couldn't un-add that one.

1:05:03But all the other ones are. Well, for many people, I'd close it. The fact that you get in and out and in and out and in and out of debt constantly. That's what she said. Yeah. Kind of. That's what's concerning to me. This is like basically maxed out. Minimum is... Well, the reason it's maxed out is because they lowered... 48, 14, I think. They lowered my availability... No, 71. ...after it sat with a balance for a while. It was... The availability at one point was higher. 71 is your minimum payment. Yep. Apple Card used. Apple Card used. This was just last month. Apple Card used. Apple Card used.

1:05:38Yeah, my subscriptions. HBO Max. We definitely don't need that right now. I can't sell Max, I'm pretty sure. iCloud, that's okay. Yeah, I think it's storage. I don't remember. Okay, here we go. Interest charge, 40. I mean, this is probably like a 20%. I'm sure this is also about a couple hundred bucks. Or like a thousand or two thousand this year so far. You can see, actually. But by end of year. Oh, okay. I was going to say, you can see the interest on there. Yeah, I mean, so. That's a little bit of spending on these cards so far aren't crazy. I'm sure most of the spending is in the checking account.

1:06:11Yeah. But, I mean, every card is maxed out. I'm not seeing it. Whatever this progress is, I haven't seen yet. That's the thing. I want to see it. A lot of my, they weren't maxed out. Like the ones that you're seeing on Citi, originally they were like$10K and$7 ,500. I know, but now they're maxed out. Yeah. Because they brought it down because they don't trust you with money. $1 ,447.56 on this Freedom card. Hey, you sent a statement again. Six years to pay off. $49 minimum fee payment. Yeah. It just charged this last month$34.97. A lot of those Chase ones. Again, maxed out. Yeah, they lowered that one.

1:06:43A couple dollars off, but maxed out. Listen, the concern is, yes, I believe you can pay this off. I'm picking that up from you. I believe. I don't know by beginning of year. That doesn't make sense to me. But I believe you can pay these off. I don't necessarily believe that you will not get them again. I know. Not rag them up again. You've done this before. I've come to the conclusion because I did well on credit cards for the first. because my first one I got at 16 and I did well until I was about 19. And so I think I just, now that I live the adult life and have real bills and stuff, I think I might just have to not be a credit card person and not have them at all.

1:07:17But I would like to use them responsibly. And so what I want to do is I don't want to close them yet. I'm thinking when I pay them off, I might reintroduce one that's secured and just work that for a bit because I would really like to retrain that muscle. Use the Fiz card, Fiz card, debit card that builds credit. It works. It works the same. just doesn't let you spend more than what's in your checking account. Also get you an accounting certification through Course Careers. Not for you to change your career path or get more money. It's not about that. But when you start your own business, I want you to be able to do true legitimate business accounting.

1:07:46Well, I got a guy for that. Well, save your money at the beginning. Sure, sure, sure. So I want to make sure you're going in on the right foot. I know. And see, with that one, originally, I'm not going to lie, I went to Puerto Rico. And that's the reason I've got a balance on it. What, for a Puerto Rican baddie this time? Yeah. Actually. I'm not even going to. Dude, what are you doing? Okay, so what happened was. Let me see. Let me see what? Her. Well, no, that was a random. I don't have any pics of her. You don't know her on Instagram. I can pull up all my people. No, bro. Why do you get blocked?

1:08:20No, no, no. I never get blocked. I wasn't blocked. I wasn't blocked. I wasn't blocked. So I had gone there with the idea of it'd be cool to pull Puerto Rican baddies. And then I went there and I met with, I got these random tech bro friends I made on the front, on the plane and ended up just getting smashed with them. Huh? You ended up what? Oh, I ended up, so I was, I was flying there. I met this guy who worked at Apple and some other tech bros and they're cool as f***. And so I ended up just getting smashed with them on the beach. And then I got f***ed up and we went to like these weird prisons and s***.

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1:11:56Um, good point. Honestly, that was a really badass trip, though, I'm not going to lie. That was pretty f***ing tight because I was 18. Or no, I was 19 or 20. I don't remember. But I couldn't drink in America, but I could drink there. So it was pretty tight. Okay. But yeah, that's how I originally got that balance because I was so burnt out here at SA. and I don't know. I just feel like I needed a break and I shouldn't have done that, I know, but honestly, it really did help a lot. And then I did pay that down and then I racked it up on bullshit being behind on bills. Dude, your life is just crazy.

1:12:26Where are you putting money? And I just don't believe - I know. Listen, you had a breakup. You're a little bitter in the dating world now, but I don't believe you're going to change your lifestyle for a bit. I've been locked in, bro. I've been in that mode. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I can lock in as well, but when I was in my goon early 20s, my goon, I mean, you'll goon. You're a gooner. I'm a real gooner? You're a gooner. You're always going to want to f***ing. You're going to spend money on dates to f***ing. Well, so here's the new ploy. Here's a new ploy. Instead of spending money on women, right, I build them a robot instead.

1:13:02Think about it. Does it give handjobs? I mean, I could. I'm just kidding. You know, it's like a whole industry right now. The handjob machines. Well, because men are pussies and losers and women are insane. So yeah, there's among the young generation, the men and women are f***ing. In your age range, women are hyper-extremists on TikTok and men are f***ing losers that just inscribe stuff on bullets. Yeah, I'm trying to, that's what I was thinking. I was like, I should pull me a MILF next. And that's like when I was looking on Tinder and s*** a little bit. I wasn't going to do it though. I was like, I should pull me a MILF.

1:13:37Pull you a MILF. Okay, a couple hundred bucks and interest is here so far. so$500 by end of year. We're talking almost like, I think we're at this point, we're at 3, 4, 5, I think like almost$5 ,500 by year's end in interest. So almost a total month of everything combined. Well, actually of your main income. Gone so far. The interest sucks ass and that's what kind of sucks with the snowball method. But I got to be honest, the snowball is very good. Why don't you avalanche? Well, because the snowball, I've tried avalanche before and that's why I tried. You don't get those wins. I don't get those wins.

1:14:07So you don't stay committed. Yeah, and that's what happened. That's why I would prefer snowball for you. I paid off like 5K of the total at the highest, and I was trying to do the avalanche, and then now I'm switching to snowball, and I'm finding it a lot better. Okay, saver, one of your small ones, yet no progress. $934.18 of the$33 monthly payment, and it is maxed out. It got maxed out because of my ex's birthday. Tell me. So, it's actually so f***ed up. That's how I got this little boo-boo. So, I had, for her birthday, she told me she wanted the boo-boos, right? And so I bought them and she saw the email of them coming in.

1:14:42So she's like, oh, no, I'm getting it for my birthday. I was like, lame. And so I was like, okay, let me get you another gift. And so those came in and I just gave her the box, right? And then she almost broke up with me because I didn't wrap it. Why? It was like two weeks before her birthday. The crazy c***head. Yeah. Yeah, she's insane, dude. Everything, there's not one thing that sounds normal. Other than she was like a seven. I was like, I don't know, man. I was down bad, I guess. But she's a really cool person. It's just, I don't know. I wish her the best. I hope things are well. We'll see.

1:15:11But yeah, and then I ended up getting her a different gift. But those, yeah, I got off stock exchange. I did pay it now. It's maxed out now. Yeah, but that was from the gift. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Again, there will always be something to get you up there, and that's what concerns me about you more than anything. Luckily, I don't do Christmas. I'm not religious, so I don't have that holiday. Did you delete your text messages with her? With who? Her. My most recent ex? No. You want to see them? In the post show, yes. You better believe it. Dude, you're going to see some batshit shit. Exactly.

1:15:45That's why Hammer Elite is incredible. I'm not going to lie. I got crashed out a couple times. I'm sure you did. I would have as well. Crashing out's normal for humans as long as... You can see the text where she said, I feel like it's feeding your ego to talk to me. You can see that text. 140 in interest this year so far, so it'll be a couple hundred bucks. We're getting close to about 6 ,000 in interest by year's end. Amazon synchrony card. What's going on with this? Okay, so Amazon, bro, when I moved to San Antonio, best part, best part about being in the city is same day shipping. That is awesome.

1:16:15From West Texas? No, I came from East Texas. We didn't have same day. Okay. But San Antonio does because it's like a major city. $29 minimum payment, balance$487.44, 23 months to pay this off. No purchases, but I think it is, yeah, it's maxed out. It started over maxed out, actually, with an interest charge of$12.75. Yeah, I don't remember that one. Yeah, I bought a lot on Amazon, and my ex would buy stuff on my Amazon, too. It's all on there. And I bought a bed on there recently. $82 of interest this year. Adds at a 30 % rate. Yeah, it's not good. Getting closer and closer to that. $60 ,000 in interest, or$6 ,000 in interest.

1:16:59I'm not seeing progress here. Okay, so this card started at zero, but you put$251 on it. with the Freedom Flex? Yeah. I don't remember that. Great. Well, that's absolutely great. Because that one I normally keep at zero. Well, it's at 251.51 with a minimum fee payment at 40. Damn. Sip it. Oh, that's booze. Oh, yeah. Oh, good news on the vape. So I quit vaping. That's good. The ultimate big brain strap. So what I did is I went from vaping to cigarettes. Big brain. Okay, let me cook. Let me cook. Let me cook. Let me cook. Let me cook. Okay. So here's the strat. Here's the strat. Let me put you on game.

1:17:35You're vaping, right? I'm chiefing that shit day and night. I work in an office. I'm glad to do what the fuck I want. So I'm chiefing day and night. Cigarettes, I got to smoke outside. And so what I did was I had to separate out with my cigarettes. I switched cigarettes. And then Murphy's or whatever, they were doing a promo. They gave me free Zins with every pack of cigarettes. And so now I switched to Zins. And so I've been two weeks almost, no vape or smoke. When I said locking in with Zins earlier, I was making a joke. I didn't know you actually took Zins. No, stop it. I don't care. Okay. But yeah, I'm off the vapes.

1:18:08No more vapes. Wingstop went in and got some bullshit. What'd you get? From gas station. Seven bucks. Oh, wait. You said Wingstop. Circle K. Oh, Circle K? Probably a Red Bull. Okay, don't do that. Listen, here. Try one of these. Oh, I was telling them the thing. I got gamer steps. I fuck with gamer steps. It's so good. Here. There's a free sample. You guys can get free samples now. Again, with the powder, you put it in this. It's really good. No, I know. 10 % off with my link or get the free samples. Type in code Caleb. 25 cents a serving. It's like making your Red Bull at home, like making your coffee at home.

1:18:3725 cents a serving. Get the degenerate VTuber ones. They're the best ones. They are. They are. I like the blowhole one. That's mine. That's my favorite one. Yeah, that's good. It's that German chick. Yeah, I don't know who it is, but it's tropical and I like it. Yeah, I saw her at WeebCon. Well, you got more Red Bulls. Don't. There's gas. Yeah, I got to stop with the Red Bull. Sports bar, sports bar, Red Bull. Raisin canes and Red Bull. Yeah. Now, you usually pay this off every month, so I'm going to cross it out because no interest accrued this year. Yeah. Yeah, that's my good boy credit card.

1:19:09Honestly, I think what happens when I use that, most of the time I use it accidentally because I would do Apple Pay. And then it was on my Apple thing before I took them off. Whoa, what the f***? Okay, that's the end of your debt, but your checking account's weird. What's wrong with my checking? Well, we ended with$2 ,696, which is great. Oh, okay. That's good. You started with negative$394. I remember talking to Colton about this. So what happened was is I guess I forgot whenever everything was hitting at the beginning of the month. Because y 'all's statement is like in the middle of the month instead of the first.

1:19:46And I guess I just lost track and I spent too much. Because that was right around the breakup. And I sent her money so she could go drive home. And then I was dead broke. That's f***ing crazy, dude. I know. This is f***ing crazy. She didn't have any money. She had to get home. and so I sent her some money and... To negative? No, not to negative. The negative came because all my minimums hit right then and I wasn't getting paid till Friday. You can see on there, they're like all right there and then boom, I get paid. Well, before I look at this, I want to look at your Amazon. Oh, okay. Yeah, you'll see some shit that she bought as well.

1:20:18She's not on anymore, just to be clear. But, um... And then you'll see my most recent is my bed. Here you go. And you can get to my credit card from... If you go to the account and shit. Starting screen recording. We'll black out private. Oh, yeah, my fault. The Tunnel, a novel. Oh, it's a Spanish book. Mattress, you got your new mattress. Yeah, and the Tunnel is just Spanish. Multivitamin, U.S. Army Forces. Oh, that's another book. Okay. I have a lot of books. Sporting Ear Adjustable Weighted Ankle. Oh, yeah, those are from my marathon. The new AirPods. Okay, okay, the AirPods. Pencil set. That was for drawing.

1:20:52That was cheap. Dip pen. It's just like a calligraphy thing. Okay. But it's just for art. But the AirPods, I did justify. I worked almost a 100-hour week. And so what I justified it is, is if I come in a half hour early and leave a half hour late for three days, it more than pays for the AirPods. So. But you could put it towards your dad, dude. I know. It's just because I needed that reward to get through that week. And then I really wanted AirPods to be able to wear at the zoo. Neodium comp magnet. Oh, that was for a robotics project. It was magnets. Lots of birthday stuff. Cancelled, cancelled, cancelled, cancelled.

1:21:29Yeah, I ended up cancelling them. Colton said there were sex toys on here, but I don't see it. Sex toys? Oh, that's deep. You gotta find that deep. That's deep in there, my orders. I don't know. Colton knows it somehow. No, he was asking what's on there. I didn't know which ones you'd be able to see, but yeah, I had bought some. Stuffing yourself? Oh yeah, big time. I just love plugging. And again, going negative in the checking account to give our ex money. What did we do? Yeah, I know. Well, you got Red Bull. we got liquor. You get a lot of liquor. Okay, so that was, okay, I went, I'm not drinking, I'm not drinking anymore.

1:22:01I went a month, I went a month clean and I had two beers the other day. That's it. But, the reason, yeah, that was, you're seeing my depression week and I was not well and I did drink a lot. And I think, if you look at the liquor store though, I also buy my cigars there so I was smoking cigars then too. Why? Dude, you just want to, you do everything bad to yourself. I know. Red Bull. My doctor hates me. Chili's. Audible, Apple, Cash App, Slacker's, St. Mary's, Slacker's, St. Mary's, Apple Cash, Slacker's, St. Mary's, Joey's, La Perona's, Red Bull, Panda Express, Red Bull, Chipotle. Again, we could be paying down all our debt.

1:22:41By the way, you said, oh, I'm making snowball. There is no more than a minimum of the payment on any of these. So, f*** off. I mean, that's what I was expecting, but I needed to go through to see. Actually, no, that isn't what I was expecting. I was expecting maybe you did make a progress on a small card. You didn't. Red Bull, Chipotle. Red Bull, Red Bull, Hazel Sky. Red Bull, Red Bull, McDonald's, Chick-fil-A, Thirsties, Thirsties, Taco Bell, Schlotzky's, Flex, Finance. Oh, so that's when I was doing my rent and two payments. So like it would be rent on the first and rent on the 21st. Why? You make money.

1:23:16Good money. Well, because what had happened that made me do that is I had gotten hospitalized like a month before this. For what? And then I was behind. I had a seizure. That's not good. Yeah, so I have like a sleeping thing because I was just stressed and working so much. Especially in my last job, I was working like 80 to 100 hours and flying. So I was only able to sleep like three or four hours at a time, like on an average day. And it ended up causing a seizure. So I was hospitalized and I was out for like two weeks. yeah and my work was really cool about it you know they that's good but um yeah I ended up being behind on on rent and perfect tender tot walkway El Camino PayPal Apple Card well that's a payment to the Apple Card Cash App Red Bull Tacos Red Bull Crunchyroll Apple Bill McDonald's McDonald's McDonald's Whataburger all could be going to debt and we're not putting more than minimum payments on debt or simply not.

1:24:21Paying cha, Starbucks, cash app, Raising Cane, Specs, Chick-fil-A, jewelry. Specs is like a store. Wait, jewelry? Yeah. SP Hard Jewelry. SP Hard Jewelry. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't wear it. Yeah, I bought a ring. Great. Instead of paying off our debt, liquor, Chick-fil-A. I was down bad. Smoke and Eve, Alexa. I was down bad. Monster, Water burger Yeah for the whole month I know I was rough I was rough bro I'm not proud of it I was not I was going through it man All my homies now I was down bad Oh I'm sure I'm sure That was a really rough one And plus we were still Kind of talking For like a little bit afterwards Until she decided to ghost me Cause I really wanted her To get right Cause she was on some I know but I don't know And especially an ex Like that might not be I know it's just When you care for someone I get it I know you wanted her to try Red Bull Apple Cash Tacos, Flex Finance again.

1:25:19That's the fee for it. Amazon, Spectrum. I don't have the Flex anymore, just to be clear. And SaucePlus.com. Total overdraft fees this year so far,$170. That's insane. I honestly thought you were kind of pretty okay. Finance guy, pretty okay. Really in the niche. You're not. You're overdrafting like insane. You're not making any more than minimum payments on anything when I thought you might. You're spending a lot of money on bullsh** endlessly, and it's really bad habits, too. I know, and they were— Even if it was last month or in crash out months, I mean, you're still not making any progress.

1:25:51You're just getting liquor and doing zins and getting cigarettes. This is really bad habits. I know, I know. And that's the main thing is I'm focused on my health. What? Well, that's what I've been doing. And so, like, with the prep meals and stuff, I'm about a month into that diet, and it's been helping my bank account, too. Plus, I've lost 10 pounds. Well, that's good. Total income,$8 ,200. Well, hopefully that's good. What is? Did you lose it in a good way? I mean, I think so. I'm pretty out of shape still, but I'm working on it. $386.36 to the Jeep. Truck,$630.34. The AT &T card,$157.98. These are your minimum payments, by the way.

1:26:34Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. $91.11 for the city. Double cash. PayPal credit,$77. $7.71 to the Apple card. Freedom card,$49. $33 for the Saver card. The Amazon card for all the dildos,$29. Your minimum payments right now, just debt,$1 ,524.79. Now, what I am going to do is you're going to put$500 immediately into the Jeep. You're going to sell it. That doesn't get rid of the minimum payment, but it is going to bring it down to about$5 ,000. Wait, what? $6 ,000. to the Jeep, right? You said you put it in$500, you sell it for eight. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You put eight towards the debt that brings it to about six.

1:27:15But I can't sell it until I pay it down to the total amount. I can't get a loan for the difference because I went to a credit union and they were like, nah, not until I pay off credit cards. Okay. We might be able to look at some resources afterwards. Yeah, I'll try another, some more, but I was looking at my local credit unions. You'll set that money aside and I'll consider bringing it down to the debt. Yep. So I'll bring the Jeep debt down to six. Okay, what's your rent? $1 ,645 and then plus internet, water, stupid fees. It's like$19. Okay, I'll call it$1 ,900 total. That's expensive, by the way.

1:27:50Phone bill? Especially for San Antonio. Yeah,$165. Gas? Vroom, vroom, drive, drive. $160 a month. T-Mobile, I know, is good in this area. It's switched to helium. How much for gas again? I'm like locked in. They did something stupid. Yeah, once you're out of there. How much for gas? $160. And car insurance 330

1:28:14Okay groceries You can do 300 Follow the meal plan Follow the meal prep You can It's so easy Especially with HB We know that TP fund Anything else you need to survive 100 medical healthcare Any co-pays Medications I have a lot coming up But I'm just not going to do it for now So nothing Okay Jim I got it for free Good Oh wait My dojo for jiu-jitsu Give you$50 in subscriptions Okay, Dojo. Jujitsu is$180. Okay. Yeah. $50 for subscriptions. Anything else that needs to be in your budget that I've not put into effect? Let's say, because I know there's some room here. Let's say wiggle room for hobby.

1:28:50How much do you need? So for books, I probably spend like at least$50. Actually, what I'm going to do is give you fun$500. What? $500 books? Do you have any pets? I have three. I have two kitty cats and a dog. Ages and health. The dog's four. The smallest kitty, she's less than one. and she's going to be one in her bit. And then my other one's two. All healthy? Yep. Good. Get pet insurance. Good pet insurance. Not the shitty stuff. You had talked about lemonade. Who should I go with? I was looking around. Spot. Spot? Okay. Yeah. But look, make sure you get the right plan because that's what's hard.

1:29:23Yeah. So$150, how much for pet food? $40,$50. It's like$90 a month. Okay. Good. I get the good shit. Good. I think you can afford it. Oh, well, this rent is actually pretty high. Okay, let's see what we can do. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you still got wiggle room, but not much. I'm cutting your fund down to$250. That's my zen budget. I guess so. $5 ,199.75. Damn. You're going to bring in$8 ,200. I mean, I was going off of the gap from the$660, but you need to pull in the money. That is like the extra bonus. Okay, I'll pull in that and then... 3 ,000 hours a month. That's your leftover. Yep. Now, we have$63 ,528.18.

1:30:13I'm going to minus$7 ,500 for the Jeep. $500 of that goes to fixing it. Okay, very good. Now,$56 ,028.18 divided by this$3 ,000. You'll be debt-free in a year and a quarter. A year and a half. Yeah, my goal is debt-free by 23. That's my last point. Okay, well, you said by January. That doesn't make sense. No, no, the truck included. So I turned 22 in a couple of months. Well, if you actually follow this budget,$250 for fun, nothing more beyond that, which you blow everything on women and craziness, one and a half years, and then don't start your business until then. Okay. Because I read this book about it, and he was talking about starting a small business, like solo.

1:30:54You can if it's low and it doesn't take money away from the other things. Because you're going to quit your zoo, and that brings in money. We can't do that. Right, right, right. And so my plan was, because the business, whenever I initially started, it takes very little upfront investment from me. Because I'm doing like control work, like control panels. And so the customer will buy the parts. And so I'm just doing labor. Okay. As long as it's not taking away from the progress. It pays nutty is why I want to do it. Because like in three days, I can make like eight to 10K just from building panels.

1:31:23So that's what I would do. And I would get a fully funded emergency fund if you really want this business to be your big thing. Yeah. And I had some more questions too. is I was listening to Dave Ramsey. I had stopped investing in my Roth IRA and 401k, but I was thinking about it. The payoff is so huge on my Roth, and I have the margin. Should I keep contributing to my Roth at least? Some of these interest rates are just so substantially high. Yeah. For your IRA, I wouldn't certainly take your retirement match at work, but with the interest rates on these cards being like 30%, it doesn't make sense for the market.

1:31:54Even the best years is that, but they have to take down years too. I know, but this will compound too. Yeah, true. So I'd focus on this. Yeah, yeah. Take your matches. So take the company match. Okay. Take your matches and then we'll heavily invest. You'll have a great retirement. You just can't bounce back into this situation again. I know. All right, I'm going to look through this text. Let's get the Hammer Financial Score. I'm going to look through those girlfriend texts and then I'm going to try to call her. So join that post show. But Hammer Financial Score, spend in your budget. You spend exactly what you made so you didn't over your spend.

1:32:23I'll give you a two out of 10 for that because more of this money should go towards debt. Yeah. Debt. No collections. Pretty bad debt. Two cars, but that's about a two out of ten. Emergency funds. I didn't see a savings account. I have one. It was a thousand. Okay, one out of ten. Retirement? I have like 2 ,500 in my 401k. 21. I can give that about a five out of ten. What? Maybe. Well, at 21, because that's age dependent. I was expecting a zero for that. I thought you needed like 10. Well, at 21. Well, get on track. And I'm going to give it a three, because I want you to be on track to hit your total income.

1:32:58Yeah. Whole year's worth of income by 30 needs to be saved up. Okay. So I'll give you a three out of 10 because you're just getting started. Okay. I'll give you a two out of 10. Real estate, zero out of 10. Yeah. The more I think about how long it's going to take to get there. No, I'll get the retirement of three. Sorry. Okay. Hammer financial score rounded up to what you said from the score you took. Two out of 10. Get yours at CalebHammer.com and click that join button right now and join us for an extra 20 minutes and three premium shows posted every single day, Monday through Friday in Hammer Elite.

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