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25 Oct 2024 · 1 h 31 min

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Episode Title

Pregnant OF Trash Addicted To Payday Loans

Podcast Description

In this episode of Financial Audit, the host Caleb Hammer conducts an in-depth financial audit with Lily, a pregnant 22-year-old from Denver, Colorado, who feels overwhelmed by debt.

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Key Participants

  • Caleb Hammer: Host and financial expert
  • Lily: Guest, 22 years old, expecting a baby

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Main Themes and Discussions

  1. Financial Situation Overview
  2. Lily discusses feeling overwhelmed with debt alongside her husband.
  3. Their combined monthly income is approximately $6,626.
  4. They have significant expenses exceeding their income, leading to a deficit.
  1. Income Breakdown
  2. Lily works with children with autism, earning $24/hour, contributing around $3,000/month.
  3. Her husband serves in the army and earns significantly more than her.
  4. Lily's income was lower previously due to fewer working hours.
  1. Debt Overview
  2. Lily reveals various debts, including:
  3. Medical Debt: A significant portion comes from an ER visit resulting in a $13,500 bill due to an accident.
  4. Credit Card Debt: She and her husband owe substantial amounts on multiple credit cards, including a $280 Capital One card with a high-interest rate.
  5. Payday Loans & Debt Relief Programs: The couple is enrolled in a debt relief program but struggles with payments and late fees.
  1. Spending Habits
  2. The host critiques their spending habits as being frivolous and unsustainable, including:
  3. Mattress Expenses: They purchased expensive mattresses totaling $10,000.
  4. Gaming Purchases: Significant funds are spent on video games and related subscriptions.
  5. Dining Out: Frequent use of DoorDash and other takeout services, which adds to their financial strain.
  1. Lifestyle Choices
  2. The couple's lifestyle choices are scrutinized:
  3. They prioritize luxury items over paying off debts.
  4. Caleb emphasizes the importance of making sacrifices, especially with a child on the way.
  5. Discussion on the implications of bringing a child into a financially unstable environment.
  1. Recommendations
  2. Caleb provides practical advice:
  3. Budgeting: He stresses the need for a solid budgeting plan.
  4. Debt Management: Suggestions on how to prioritize debt payments and reduce expenditure.
  5. Income Increase: The necessity for both partners to consider additional work opportunities to increase their income.
  1. Medical Insurance and Future Planning
  2. The conversation touches on Lily’s health insurance (Tricare) and the limitations it imposes.
  3. Discussion on future medical expenses related to the baby, stressing the need for a solid financial plan.

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Key Takeaways

  • Financial Literacy: The importance of understanding debts, interest rates, and budgeting is emphasized.
  • Spending Behavior: The couple's spending habits are criticized as unsustainable and irresponsible given their financial situation.
  • Future Planning: The need for financial planning becomes urgent with impending parenthood, highlighting the importance of living within means.

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Conclusion

This episode highlights the financial struggles of a young couple navigating debt and the impending responsibilities of parenthood. Caleb Hammer's insights aim to steer them towards better financial management and decision-making to secure their family's future.

Additional Resources

  • Links to budgeting programs, debt management classes, and financial tools provided in the episode's description.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. I'm pregnant and my husband and I just feel like we're kind of just drowning in debt That's not true, I've been through your finances So you're f***ing bull**** There's some of the stupidest stuff I've seen in the history of this show When you're gonna have to take care of a kid here soon Phoenix internet is usually related to Is there kid girl stuff? It might be related to You do the OF If you're interested

0:29Hi, I'm Lily, I'm 22 I'm from Denver, Colorado and this is Financial Audit. Wow, thanks for coming in from Colorado. What do you do for a living there? I work with kids with autism. Ah, yes. The TISM children, how much are we making on the TISMs? 24 an hour. Okay, so I'm going to need you to take care of my entire staff, including myself after this because autism flows hard through this office. How much do you think hits your account on per paycheck or monthly basis? Around 3 ,000. Okay. Denver's not known for being a cheap city. How's living in Denver? It's not bad. I mean, a lot of the crime rate is up right now.

1:14Denver? Yeah. What's going on in Denver? What, mountain people? You haven't listened to Trump talk? I try to not listen to most speeches from any candidates. They say the Venezuelan gangs are taking over Aurora. The Venezuelans. I assume that's how the speech goes. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. Sure. Have you been stabbed by a Venezuelan recently? No. Okay. What we had come in was... Oh, wait. I see two payrolls. Oh.

1:48Yes, my husband. Oh. So this is a married daughter, but he's not here? No. Okay, so I have coming in, well, only 1 ,882 from you, but then we had 4 ,603 from him. Okay. Why is yours less than you said it was? Well, I wasn't making as good of hours before because I was working a different job, so I changed jobs. Like right now? I started in June. and then the i'd be surprised if any of this was in june no but so it takes a little bit to get clients on your case when you work with kids with autism and so my weeks are now like filled before i was only working half days on tuesdays and thursdays now i'm working full days monday through friday according to gunner in chief jake back there he's saying phoenix internet which brought in about$141 is usually related to or girl stuff.

2:56It might be related to. You do the OF. I was, but since I became pregnant, I kind of stopped. We have pregnancies. Yes. People might pay for more for that. Okay. Okay. Okay. So that kind of throws a wrench into your, what's going on here? What is going on here? What are we looking at today? uh so i'm pregnant and my husband and i just feel like we're kind of just drowning in debt and our baby's due in december was this accidental content explosion into a child no no it was um wait i only make content with my husband yeah oh i didn't know if you were planned baby yeah well oh we were kind of like we're married if we have a kid we have a kid and then he got back second time on the show that i've heard that that's actually interesting okay lots of those uh so when how how far along are you uh i'm seven months and we basically just feel like we're why why are you uh just our debt our bills everything how much were you making at your peak on that uh like maybe like 300 okay so it was never really a substantial income driver no what about the working with the tisms does that are they concerned of paying for i don't think they know would they be concerned if they found out i don't think so i mean i work with kids so i don't yeah but would the parents be concerned i don't know i don't children typically not the best combination i mean i don't do them together I know but a parent you know they're they're they're like the most cautious people in the entire world well I don't know I don't know okay I mean would it would it be more weird if I told them no I'm just nervous would your income be affected if they found out I don't think so and you've completely stopped yeah I mean my account's still up are you jumping back on the train when the baby gets pooped uh depends on if we need money then why are you guys why are you guys because it sounds like you might need money but why are we first place um just i feel like we're just drowning in like a lot of my medical debt and stuff like medical yeah for what um no so that's not true i've been through your finances so you're you're bull there's some of the stupidest stuff i've seen in the history of the show in the stack that's pretty funny but what what are you what are you saying medical yeah there is medical debt and it is pretty but that's obviously not the case the spending's insanity i think um well i was sued for 13 000 dollars uh well not i don't know oh apparently there's also medical debt that i didn't even know about yeah that you literally just brought up when we got wow yeah that's kind of my fault okay sorry go on continue um so they i got served with the paperwork for 13 500 roughly around that 500 for what um from a er visit i had back in 20 what happened i slipped and fell and hit my head and so they had to do like brain scans and stuff like that oh wow yeah and how are you i'm i'm good i was fine but good obviously not from the money of it i mean your miscellaneous bs spending in general which i mean that could be things ranging from video games to just buying a random antique who even knows 864 dollars okay so payroll from both of you including what does he do for work he's in the army 6 620 126 came in from both of you, including all three sources.

6:55Wait, what's BetterLink? BetterLink? BetterLink. What is BetterLink disbursement? How much was it? $3 ,250 total? Oh, debt management? Yeah. What are you guys doing? We enrolled in a debt relief program last year. The thing about debt relief is, okay, there's a couple things. one sometimes it can actually be okay but it's only okay if you actually change your behavior if you're just getting into the debt relief and you're around still like you're gonna get back into the same amount of bad debt again and then you're gonna have to figure it out so you really make no progress two even if you are being good some debt relief programs many of them the fees and everything they put on top of it almost completely negate any kind of help they give you so just like any industry there's goods there's bads i i don't know this one i don't know this one You don't know.

7:48Well, it's called National Debt Relief Program. Oh, National Debt Relief Program. I don't know why it comes in as. Better link. I mean, this is probably how it looked on the transfer side. We work with like Relief App. We work with that for the right cases sometimes. They're good for debt negotiation. Okay, we'll have to just take a look. We'll have to take a look. I want to see. Self-assessed. Where do you think you are? Zero to ten. Zero being the absolute worst. Ten being the absolute best. Also never had a pregnant on this show before. That's curious. A pregnant? Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah.

8:22It's fun. New things even two and a half years in. I would say I'm at maybe four or five. Didn't you just enroll in debt relief? Or you? Well, a year ago. Is it draining brain cells? Is it siphoning blood from your frontal cortex? so when we enrolled we enrolled like after we were struggling with debts from when we bought our house you okay you own a home yes wait i didn't see a mortgage do you not have a mortgage uh i thought i sent it in i sent it in it is in there well we'll see but so we enrolled in the debt relief because we had um we just had a bunch of like credit cards and stuff that we weren't able to pay off and then And it was getting to the point where we were like, we need to do something about it.

9:17Okay. 6 ,626 came in. How much did you guys spend? Well, this we're talking about a year ago. How much did you guys spend? I'm talking about this month. How much did you guys spend? 6 ,626 from earned money came in. How much did you guys spend? Probably all of it. Over all of it. I would like a number. 6 ,000. 10 ,070. So you're middle of the road. Uh-huh. Five. Spending 40 % more than came in. is that including the 3 000 it's all spending and uh what spending it whether or not you spent it because we pulled the extra money from our debt relief we'll see we'll just have to go through and where was it supposed to go instead well we so we had paid off so two of the accounts haven't even came close to being closed or settled yet so we had a bunch of extra sitting in there we left enough to close out the two accounts that need to be closed out and then we took out so what happens when those are ready you guys just got to put a bunch of money in we're starting paying again um this month doing the monthly payments again what's the monthly payment 257 every two weeks so it's like four or five see home usually yeah let's start the debt journey capital one just a classic capital one cares to see what we do with the title and thumbnail with a pregnancy it's gonna be interesting it'll be awesome it's gonna be horrendous probably horrendous yeah horrendously fun okay 280 and 75 cents owed on here with the 25 dollar minimum payment okay you're making minimum payments it doesn't matter you're purchasing first of all Whose card is what card?

11:06Do I have everyone's? Do I have everything? Yes. Okay. Does he know you're here? Yes. What does he think? He wanted me to be here. What is that? You want me to call him? No. Where is he? Oh, he's in the army. He can't. So he can't come unless. He said he's home. Oh, I thought you meant like. Hop on an Apache. Black Hawk down right into the studio. The army has to approve his leave. Like if he wants to leave out of state. And they told us, no, he can't come. So. Oh, okay. so we're still purchasing on a car that is accruing interest$7.96 also that's the interest that's accruing but you're purchasing$14.30 so you made a minimum payment but it only went down three dollars so what are we doing um five average solid middle of the road oh well we're not paying off our debt is that funny no uh i think i had a like a auto payment on that for that card and then like something a subscription pulling from there automatically

12:12doordash and some apple subscription of some kind in the back end that wouldn't surprise me why haven't they been moved or canceled you guys are trying to have a kid so I did cancel my dash pass okay like a second ago yeah okay because that must have just happened yeah uh huh yeah but other than that um I don't on a card though either way even the other subscription I don't think the others I mean I don't know was it an in-app purchase then I don't I can't see is this Apple bill they could be anything and they could be buying gems they could be stopping using some stupid thing I don't remember what it was from but why on a card it has accruing interest that you are apparently not able to pay off even though you guys make$6 ,626 a month and can't pay a$280 card off.

12:59Why are you guys only paying minimums on a$280 card? I didn't want to pay it off. I just wanted to use it to... What the f*** would you not want to pay it off for? Credit. But you're holding a balance. Also, the credit limit is$300, so your utilization... You're a giggly little thing. I've had it for like four... That's fun. I've had that card for like four years. Wonderful. I don't get how holding, maxing out the credit card helps your credit. Well, not maxing it out, but I thought keeping it open for the longer. You're$20 under the max. Yeah, I understand that. You can keep it open, but you can also pay it off.

13:37I have credit cards open. I pay them off.

13:44Who has a better credit score here? You. Okay. So why can't you pay this off? i mean i can i just do it it just wasn't on like the list of priorities why it's a debt that's accruing interest i don't get it just why where's your priorities then uh a lot of it went to like the medical debt and um the medical debt that's not accruing interest though is it i don't know but i have to make got like a third party the court said that i have to like make the monthly payments and if i don't then what's the monthly payment 250 no 231 you make 6 626 dollars yeah cool pay this off too i'm confused i just i don't know we've never had the money to pay it off you spent 900 on bull yeah minimum minimum so you had the money to pay it off it was spent on nose rings it was not spent on nose rings i don't know yet i don't know um we just it hasn't been one of our priorities i get that i just can you give me a why a lot of like our bills and stuff i don't know because i that well that's why i'm here because we do need help with that's why everyone's here that's not a thing but please please if you go on the show calebhammer.com slash apply You can come on, but please don't say that's why I'm here.

15:11That's why everyone's here. I want to know why it wasn't a priority for you guys, as you are saying. It is not a priority for you guys. It was just easier to pay the$25 a month. Yes, but why is it not a priority? I don't. Is the question. Because we have bigger bills to pay. Okay, what are they? Like our mortgage. What's your mortgage? Solar panels? Yeah. You're in Colorado. What part of Colorado? Denver. You're in Denver, Colorado. Is that one of the sunny cities? Yeah. It's cold as a tip, but... Our mortgage actually has saved us on our electric. Or not our mortgage, our solar panels have saved us on electric.

15:48Yes, but math in the end, are you 100 % sure? 10 for 300 sunny days per year. One of the sunny cities in the United States. This is cold. Yeah, and there's the Apple and DoorDash. That's a 31.99 % interest. We've had... Oh, you've had late fees this year. Probably two. two late fees on here this year so far and you're trying to talk about the bad part was only a full year ago when he did the debt negotiation we have two late fees on here this year so far

16:21go on um well last year we this is this year so far yeah but i'm saying for the debt relief uh-huh which is what you tried to explain was your bad thing and that you guys are all good now which is why i'm not saying that i'm saying we were in a bad place and that's why we enrolled in the debt relief sure congratulations why are there two missed payments this year good question i thought it was just easier to make the 25 minimum monthly payment yeah you missed it twice this year i mean two compared to every single month i haven't made a late fee every single month. Twice this year so far. I haven't made a late fee in ever.

17:03Okay. So what? That's considered, is that, you want to compliment? No, I'm saying it could be worse. Everything could always be worse. This is 0.3, 0.4 % of the income that comes in. 0.4 % of the income that comes in to make this minimum monthly payment. 0.4! Make it! Even on your just normal month, what? uh a hundred times that until yeah no i only made like a hundred dollars i thought you said three oh yeah like when i yeah exactly which is why i'm so confused 25 dollars it's just it's just what i don't know quick question does anyone rely on your income maybe your partner, kids, or even your parents.

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19:42We just didn't have the, I just feel like we haven't had the money to pay it off. $900 spent on bull. Well,

19:54it depends. What do you consider bull? We'll go through them. Okay. But so far, again, an in-app Apple purchase and DoorDash. And DoorDash, yeah. Pretty bull. Not when you're hungry. Okay, but it's bull because you can't sign much. You're going to have to be packing your kids some food when he goes to school, right? Well, I'm not going to have pregnancy cravings with my kids in school.

20:19Just strap yourself down so you can't order. I don't know. Just be an adult. I don't know. You don't order DoorDash? I can afford it. You can't. I'm not saying don't get DoorDash. I'm saying don't get DoorDash if you can't afford it. So I can afford to pay off$280, but I can't afford a$20 DoorDash order? Yes. What are you talking about? That doesn't make sense. How does that not make sense? A DoorDash order is taking away money that should be going towards debt that's at over 30 % interest rate. I didn't get a retirement account, so you guys are starving and dying by the time you guys retire, even though you're bringing a kid into this world.

20:55So you're damn right you can't afford it. What the f*** are you talking about? I'm saying make that payment on the debt so it goes paid off quicker so that you're not accruing interest, so you have a chance of survival in this world. What are you talking about? yeah you're i mean you're right but i don't know it's just one it's just a good one i mean out of all of the debts the capital one hasn't been the number one priority like out of i get i get it and you have now been able to explain why because all of them are so much more money than because my car so pay off the smallest one so you have the extra minimum to go towards the other ones i mean is 25 really gonna make that big of a difference it starts snowballing that's just the mindset that we were in when we your mindset's dumb you guys have stupid debt in here that we haven't even had a chance to go to and you're spending money that you don't have so i don't know what you're talking about i don't know for a single second what you're talking about mindset your mindset hasn't gotten you anywhere look where you are is that the mindset we're trusting yeah no well yeah i mean i was agreeing with you for example whatever the you got here you purchased something for 2161 that's great because the cost of the rental on it is an additional 2811 so that's where your mindset got you i think that was is that both of them nope oh you don't even know does he even know he's not even usually in the United States.

22:30Yeah, he knows he was there with me. What'd you guys get? Uh, we got beds. That's well, it's, um, split Kings. So there's two beds for why two twins that go, um, sleeping comfortability. Oh, yeah. So not like separate. They're still together. So, uh, you can't afford it. So I don't care. Can sleep on an air matches. I don't know. I mean, probably not anymore. We don't want to pop it, but yeah so twin beds great twin queens uh 207 hours twice per month so that we can have this is so stupid this is so stupid i bought one of those nice fancy mattresses and it was like a thousand dollars you're spending five thousand dollars on this stupid really stupid bull of a mattress concoction you guys have i mean it helps with sleeping which helps with work performance with which helps with making money uh-huh but none of your money is going towards your debt so well if it led to a better end result and you could justify it sure but also you i don't think your productivity up went up by not none of our money is going towards debt minimums you said none wait you know a mood no what is that what the is that i just want to make sure we have the facts straight well fact is i mean you're paying more in interest on that than you got for it so you better have increased the amount of money you guys are coming in at the same percentage or else your logic is completely flawed.

24:19I mean, you're right. It was a really stupid purchase. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I said that in my interview, to be fair. I wasn't there. Oh, well.

24:31I'm just saying. Okay. Sell them. Sell them? Probably. If we can just... Wait, hold on. Let me see. I'm trying to understand. When does this interest hit? Does this accrue over time? gosh it's crazy for a 2100 purchase you have to pay 4973 it's so stupid that's not even including the taxes oh my gosh you guys were ready to you know birth but you're not even close to ready financially why are you guys going doing this stupid when you're gonna have to take care of a kid here soon making it harder for you and the kid.

25:22I don't, I mean, I don't really have any reasoning behind it. This is so selfish. So selfish. The kid doesn't choose to be born into a household that knows nothing but debt and stress. They don't have that choice. You do, though. And you're choosing the kid to be born in a household. of debt and stress where you guys are taking out like payday mattress loans yeah which is the dumbest i've ever seen in my life we do want to we do want to do better with like our spending since when um i mean since a lot lately okay well you've done nothing and you've been pregnant for a bit so where's that action because i don't believe that perhaps there'd be any kind of signs of it within the documents that I'm looking at.

26:13Yeah. Where are the signs? Yeah.

26:20I mean, we were thinking about, like, we were going to try to take, like, equity out on our house and put it towards, like, our solar panel, but we have no equity on our house because we've owned it for, like, only two years. At that point, it's just like your little debt thing. You're just moving it. You're not fixing the behavior. You're looking for a shortcut instead of you actually getting your shit together. So what progress do you think that would actually help you do in the end? Because you just build your debt back up. Lots of head nodding. Not a lot of answers. Sorry, I'm thinking. I don't know.

27:05Because there really is, there's no reasoning behind it, but we want to do more. like we want to do better and i mean we've been looking into second jobs as well to make more money to help pay off our debts

27:27we're past due i don't know if some need be federal credit union my car oh my this is insane Can you stand up for a second? Can you stand up for a second? Okay. Your mom is f***ing up your entire first few years here on this planet.

27:51Why are we past doom, my dude? I didn't think that was past doom. How do we not think? Because I have auto payments. You must not have had money. It must have been charged back. How much was it past doom? Oh, I did see overdraft fees in the checking account. Oh, I did. I totally did. Oh, me. I think that was my husband's account. Huh? How much was it? Husbands? I thought you guys said you were together financially. We do. Well, I don't really know what that means. Well, so we have separate accounts, but we help each other out with bills. We don't just do the bills separately, if that makes sense.

28:31Kind of. Why aren't you guys just together? Just fully together. I don't get it. You're trying to get to the same goals together. Trying to give the, you know, a full life. And together. Let's be into this together. How do you, are you guys budgeting? Do you know how to budget? Are we budgeting? Is budgeting happening? We tried budgeting like last year. Okay. And then I just felt like. Oh, what? We were just drowning. Okay. And that was when the debt relief came in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's probably something in between. We tried and I felt like I was drowning. What? So what I did, I've worked out the budget and then I saw how much it was and I saw like we couldn't afford because if you look at the debt relief documents, it'll show you, I think it should show you all the accounts on there.

29:22But that's when we decided to enroll in the debt relief program. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. Listen, you get it for free because you're a guest on the show. Go through our new debt class. It helps and guides you and you'll go through quizzes and education on how to pay off debt and also eventually how to utilize debt correctly. It's both sides, how to manage, pay off, and how to use debt in a good way. Go through it. Go through it with your husband. You have to. You have to. For you guys, it is on sale right now for the first month, and the first 500 people who sign up get a private stream with me where I kind of go over in detail all the debt I used to have a long time ago and how I paid it off specifically.

30:04But please go through that. Please, you guys need to. You guys need to. Yes, you're past due. And the regular payment amount is just absolutely insane. No offense. Especially, well, offense, I don't care. But what's your car? It's a 2016 Mazda 3. Does he own like a Ram 1500 fuel truck? Okay. No. That's what I just assumed. i got my car in you're 14 000 you're 14 000 on it yeah late fee there yeah past due 462 minimum payment is 464 sorry oddly enough it's only well no it's still pretty bad so you owe 14 000 and it's worth about 10 yeah we could finagle and probably save about 4 ,000 if we did the borrowing the difference thing and then getting a cheaper car but even still I tried refinancing it but like even when that doesn't bring it down wait what's the interest rate like I think it's like eight no why don't you put a one at the beginning of that this is an 18 % interest on a car on a car yeah a car credit card this is a car a depreciating asset yeah we got I got that in 2020 2020 2021 rates were good then what your credit if it was okay sure yeah if your credit was even halfway decent and it wouldn't have been this bad of an interest rate well my ex co-signed it with me so that should have helped even more i know i don't know why the so okay so we had gotten it I think what happened was we had gotten it a loan through a different place, but the interest on that was 21%.

31:55So when I went through my bank, they gave it to us for 18. What was your credit score? Like I think in the 700s. No, no. That was when I first moved to Colorado. What? Did you have a stable job? Yeah.

32:14What's your credit score now? I was a server. So my tips didn't count towards mine. What's your credit score now? 560. Oh, good death. Good death. Why have you thrown it all away? Why have you thrown everything away? You told me like 15 minutes ago you care about your credit. What? Someone who cares about their credit want to be in the 500s? Why have you thrown it away? What's happened? I think buying our house is what really f***ed us. How? You guys can afford it. Technically, it's pushing on the edge, but. So at the time, I wasn't working this job that I have now. I was still working as a server.

32:44but you barely contribute to the household i know financially i mean you do add a percentage but it is small when we bought our house um he was still like getting because the army gives you housing allowance yeah so we were getting that but we didn't realize like all the closing costs and stuff behind it and then on top of that having our car payments moving to a different town and everything why is it moving to a different well it didn't take into account the payments you already had? The car? What? Feeling trapped by debt? What if I told you debt could be your secret weapon to financial freedom?

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34:30No. Then you were not ready to get a house. $5 ,000 shouldn't have made or break you if you were in the process of closing house we had been married for like to be fair you i don't care you don't get a house if you don't have a fully funded emergency fund to cover everything you need to live for six months while owning the house well we did huh well i mean that's what we did we did buy the house and we weren't ready so well you asked what happened to my credit and i told you you're right you're right you're right all right so how'd you come up with the five uh first of all how'd you not think of closing costs Did your realtor not tell you about closing costs?

35:08They did. And then we just pulled a personal loan for it. Oh, why did you do that? So we could get the house. Why did you get the house right then if you couldn't afford the closing costs? Well, we could by pulling. So our realtor was like, if you guys pull a personal loan, you'll be able to afford the closing costs. Oh, your realtor is a shit. Well, he wanted money. but I have a realtor and he actually gives me good advice he happily tells me not to buy things constantly because I'm a good long-term client because we make good purchases it sounds like your realtor is a piece of yeah he doesn't stay in contact with us after he said he would so no what would you guys be talking to him about are you buying more houses well I don't know you want him to be a third in the I feel like you'd be like hey how's the house going after you sell the house right i guess i don't know that's what i think that's good customer service customer service yeah i guess maybe i just don't need that i guess i don't but the problem so the problem with my car was i was working as a server and they didn't count my tips as like no offense so server shouldn't be getting a how much was it at the purchase price like 18 000 at that time this is four years ago maybe 20 000 i think it was i think it was 20 21 000 yeah it's server's not getting a 21 000 car i mean that my ex is also in the army though too your ex yeah he co-signed it oh your ex sorry i didn't pick it up earlier i picked it well you have a thing you know you have a little a thing don't you well my ex has a little thing for camo my ex was my high school sweetheart so that was before the army so i would say maybe not a type but do you dress up as osama in the bedroom like is that the okay i mean if you're interested no i'm just kidding oh my own i'm

37:17okay so obviously that's horrible but you should have got a test whether or not he co-signed for You should have at a very maximum at that position should have got a$10 ,000 car in that situation. I was also new to like, I'm not making excuses, but when you're new to what? When you're not educated on like finance. Almost none of us are. And you're white. What? Almost none of us are in this country. Yeah. And so I was like new to Colorado, like new to this life. My car like blew up. Colorado has nothing to do with it, but. Well, being a. People don't just like go to the high elevation become. No, I'm saying being away from home and like my family and stuff and my car blew up and I needed a way to get to work.

37:57We did it again. What is this for? That was the second bed. Hold on. Hold on. Each was a mattress?

38:08Hold the on. That's no way. What are these? This is the most expensive mattresses ever made. I mean, there were purple mattresses. Don't do that. Get the off-brand one that has the same technology, whatever it's called. Why do you have to get the name brand? Who cares about the color? They were comfy. They are comfy, but the off-brand has the same thing. What's the off-brand? I can't remember its name. But again, I bought one of the expensive ones, but I did the off-brand that is the exact same thing. And it's like the most comfy bed I've ever slept in. Guess what? Like, oh, barely over$1 ,000.

38:44so you're telling me you have$10 ,000 that you have to pay back for two stupid f***ing mattresses that have a little textured softness on them it's a lot of softness yeah the little hexagons or whatever that's awesome great$10 ,000$10 ,000 $10 ,000 of f***ing octagons octagons huh yeah yeah we're okay with that I mean I can sleep good I don't care and you can probably sleep well I think you need to sell these but use mattresses I don't know what that game is but it's purple so that's the thing is it might actually hold a little bit I mean you're not going to get it for$10 ,000 but I need you guys to pay this off is this interest accruing over the time or is this what you have to pay I don't have like the fine print here I think that's what you have to pay oh good death why would you sign up for this even a like just personal loan would be better than this why'd you guys get this why'd you guys go to destroymylife.com or whatever because we didn't have credit Okay, maybe you couldn't afford this What?

39:44Okay You sleep better by sleeping on two little things Go get two queen mattresses For 300 bucks each and slide them together I promise you can still Cuddle but in peace We do cuddle in peace And you still could have For a savings of$9 ,000 But then that would have added Oh my That would have added to our Bullshitting spending if we would have bought those mattresses you would have been like oh another amount are you like action and deprived from the mountains right now i'm sorry i am sorry ten thousand dollars is objectively worse than one thousand dollars we could talk about that but ten thousand dollars of course is so much worse it's not even comparable i wish you got the a thousand dollars by getting like two five hundred dollar ones and sliding them together what do you mean in what world would i be more upset at that or equally upset.

40:40What are you talking about? If I would have came in here and that would have been an additional amount. First of all, when did you get these? When did you get these? When did you get these? June? July? Wonderful. Then I wouldn't have seen them on the statements because you would have paid for them already. So it wouldn't have mattered. But you know what I wouldn't see? A billion percent payday mattress loans. You guys are also stretching your minimum monthly payments more than like anyone ever can. $212 $212.99 $212.99 twice a month. So an extra. By the way, basically a thousand. Remember how I'm like, go do$500 mattresses.

41:20Remember that cool moment from 30 seconds ago? Yeah, that's what you're paying a month for these. For a whole year. And the interest isn't accruing over time. That's the... Yes. Well, someone got a fancier one. Who got the better one? because it's more expensive this one I don't one's more expensive I think because the firmness I don't know well no because it also came with the bases okay so maybe the bases are included in one not the other and it's yours by the way yours is the more expensive one oh good who's the little gamer well my husband but kind of me I just play Fortnite okay what does he play he plays like everything like most a lot of rpgs fortnite cod i don't know like baldur's gate okay but i actually bought that for him well i don't think you did well borrowed yeah for him yeah happy birthday husband we're in more debt oh we got the gaming keyboard oh you betcha got an omen monitors and yeah it's hp got an hp monitor i'm judging a little here what's your preference on monitors i don't know i just bought the best kind i forgot what it's called but it's in it's in my office but i spent i wouldn't want you to have gotten that to be clear uh 333 a month you are just absolutely obsessed which is going into debt you just want to ruin your life you just want to ruin your life what is the interest on this um oh wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold it well i want to make sure i'm understanding this 100 percent so you can pay the price of the computer within five months what happens if you don't I think that's when the interest starts accruing

43:31If you pay the total of$1 ,668 In the initial 5 month period You'll be fine Or it'll cost you$6 ,000 over 18 months When did you get this? I want to do the math We'll see Are you making that full payment? in between may and oh oh oh oh oh well the amount you will have oh i did misunderstand that's why i was trying to read it clearly do you even know what you got a pc

44:12you know you're you're you did a little smile because you heard a producer chuckle you know he's not chuckling because you're funny he's chuckling because you don't know what the you're talking about that's your rent for the first five months is 1 ,668 after that maybe you can return it because you don't own it but you don't get to keep it but the only way to own it from them is to pay the full $6 ,007 what would you say I think this is like a 2 ,500 PC right Jake at most gosh I listen I've been bullying you I have it's a it's a part of the show it's a well that's kind of it's a little bit of roast also I get upset easily too and I'm very passionate about this so there's a mixture of all that this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life but but but but but it comes from a kind place you were trying to do something nice for the husband yeah i get it this is the dumbest thing ever done in the history of the world i don't want you to think i am against the gesture that you did i am against the end result this is horrific this is the dumbest thing ever six thousand dollar pc if it was actually the value for it could send something to the moon you're this is like a two thousand five hundred hour at most computer and you have to pay six thousand dollars to get it or you're gonna have to return it and have nothing and just lost it all i thought it was the if you didn't pay it you had to return it i don't have all your terms and conditions but from what we're understanding here oh it has a re-sign clause after the five month periods uh jake read through the extra pages we don't have them in front of us right here but he read through them so you can buy it out or sign another five month period at the same rate this is insane this is the most insane thing i don't even know what to write for the balance all right guys i get it you need more financial audit So we've decided now in our membership below, you get two exclusive, see nowhere else, uncensored financial audits every single month.

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47:58Is that a$333 semi-monthly payment? Or is that the total month? Do we even know? It's the total month. Are you sure? Yes. How are you sure? No offense, but based on this conversation. It's only monthly payments. There's no semi-monthly. So the semi-monthly must kick in after those five months. because

48:21oh you can do 18 months or 36 months. I got you. Oh my gosh this continues. This really does. This must be his car or do you have two cars? That's his car. Okay what is it? It's a 2015 Nissan Ultima. Good luck on that transmission. It gets good gas mileage. Yeah if it lasts It's held up so far. Yeah it's worth $7 ,700 so he's negative about $2 ,000 on it a little more than that about$3 ,000 because he owes $10 ,530 what's the payment usually? $263.90 so you guys have like separate accounts and stuff like how are these payments managed? so my paycheck just goes into mine and then his paycheck goes into his account we just don't know what it would look like if we sorry if we open baby burps yeah they're happening if we open if we did like a new joint account together what happens like if we want to pay the auto loan how do we get it into the other other account you know what i mean like so if we open account with his bank and share it and then i have my car loan with my what's the interest here on this on his um i am not sure i think it's eight or nine.

49:40You said eight or nine for the last one. It was 18. I knew one of them was eight or nine. Even still, it's not good. What are the terms for yours? How long until yours is paid off? When is its end date? 2027. I just don't know why you do this. Do you want to work in the world of autism? Is that your thing? That's your goal. Do you have a degree? I have a certification, a national certification okay okay okay okay i don't think course careers has any certifications for that specifically but if there's if you ever want to go through their quiz and find a certification that applies to your life and your goals just let us know we can give it to you for free um but okay good i'm i mean we need people obviously doing that because you know people really do need help um i know i make little jokes little quips but um that is i'm glad people are doing that the reality of it is is you know that job is valued at the pay that you're getting and you can't it doesn't give you the ability to just live the higher lifestyle you want unless you make more money some way or he's making more money some way there are ways to advance in the field um so like i can go and get my bachelor's and then my master's and become a board certified behavior analysis.

50:58Okay, how much is that going to... I don't... Well, I haven't looked into... What's the earnings for that? Median. A BCBA, 80 to 100 ,000 a year. Okay, could be worth it. If we do education the right way, it could be worth it. Yeah. So that's it for the dots. That's all of them? I'm asking you. No, because the solar panels...

51:20How much do you owe? Over 30 ,000. Okay, what's the interest rate on them? If you're going to say eight or nine. I was going to say, I think it's 12. I sent in all of the paperwork for it.

51:42There is a small window, small window, and I want to be very clear that it is a small window where solar panel loans work, and that's when they're like two to three, maybe 4%. This is not returning the value. It can't be. The break even point on these, I get it. The break even point with the interest agreement and how long you're going to be paying them has to be a ridiculous amount of time. It has to be. We were paying, I think we're paying$120 a month. Yeah, but for how many months? At 32. 36. What's your monthly payment? Are you sure? I don't. I think you're, oh, what's your monthly payment?

52:22120. That's more like a 250 month thing. So I don't know what you're talking about. you said 30 months well i didn't no you have no idea what you're talking about and you think these are how many years is that dude this is like a 20 year thing you have this debt for 21 years you're not going to live in the house of 21 years statistically you can move solar panels it's expensive they also said when we but also by the time 20 years is done that solar panels are going to be a trillion times better than this when we they'll be a trillion times better than five years When we bought the house, they said we can, the solar panels will go with the house when we sell it.

52:57Okay, you really don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry. That's what they told me. No, no, no, no, no, no. I have new information. Okay. The term is 300 months, which is ridiculous. But it's also not 12 % interest. It's 3 % interest. It's still aggressively long term, and the break-even point is still pretty hard, but it is substantially better than 12%. You don't know what you even have in your life. You don't know your life. You don't know your numbers. Oh, wait, this is a loan anyway. Oh, what am I looking at? I thought we were done. What is this? What am I looking at? That was the personal loan for the closing cost of the house.

53:39But it's only$2 ,500. So one of the personal loans went into the debt relief program, and then one of them was from his account. But I'm pretty sure then that is the one that he got before we were married and I don't know where that one went into.

53:58Okay.

54:02What if we called you a pregnant buffoon in the title? I don't know. It might be accurate. Or a pregnant and a buffoon. A pregnant and a buffoon. It's funny.

54:16Okay,$867.13 out on here. The minimum monthly is what? What's the minimum monthly? I don't have it. What's the minimum monthly? That's his account. I don't know how much. How are you guys not informed on your situation? You need to go through all of our programs together, the investing one, the debt one, the budgeting one. You guys do not know what you're on about. It shouldn't be like not knowing what bills are what. I think it's an$84.92 payment. Interest rate, do you know? Probably not. No, you don't know. You didn't even know your solar. Okay. Well, I can kind of math it out. It always changes for where we are on the loan anyway.

55:06But 10 %? 10 % to 11 % interest, which is horrendous. If I open my brokerage, Moo Moo app, use that. I buy some S &P 500. I'm hoping for 10%. You're guaranteed losing 10 % on this. You're probably not getting that return on the house. When did you get the house? 2022. You may have gotten that return a little bit. You probably had a crazy one year. Done. Okay, who knows. Oh my, what is this happening? Oh, is this, wait, what is this? That's the debt relief. How much? So we were at... Hold on. I see a full balance of$1 ,714 or monthly payments of$794. So you paid off in three months? Two and a half?

56:06I don't know. Then that's not for the debt relief. Do you even know what this is?

56:14You don't even know. We don't even. Do we know what this is? Because I know we are going to put it down as secret. We are doing 300 something every two weeks for the debt relief. Oh, yeah. One thousand seven hundred and fourteen dollars. You can enroll in a payment plan, but you haven't. That's my medical bill. Oh, and you have one of them. That's one of them. You have to. Not for that one. Well, that's not the court one. So they took you to court. yeah from my one from 2020 okay we had an ultrasound do you have insurance what's your insurance situation um i have tricare through the army how is it um so they they pick and choose what they want to approve so they only i think they only approve one ultrasound a month how's your parents health insurance my parents you can be on their health insurance so funny um so i was my parents because they're in minnesota when i slipped and fell and i got that 13 000 medical bill well they said they wouldn't cover it since i was out of network and not in minnesota tricare said oh you didn't go to an in-network place no i just well i had to go to the er it's hard it's hard and then so for my ultrasounds and my ob-gyn they pay for like one ultrasound a month you're making sure you're going in network yeah because they this is who they referred me to so they they approve one ultrasound a month but there was an abnormality in his heart and um in your kid are we saying he yeah so I had to do another I had to do another ultrasound for that month and they wouldn't cover it for the insurance have we named him Hayden hello Hayden hope you're having a pleasant day hope you enjoyed is this his first time flying yes good job little Hayden you're doing better than me you know last week he developed hearing so he has definitely heard you yelling

58:12yeah so these aren't the court um mandated ones these are just extra bonus medical bills there we go yeah good yeah i'm adding them all up just lots of lots of different medical things 608 here I don't know if I'm like go on I don't know what the first page was because it looks different than those pages unless it was the total but of course it has a balance at the end I didn't even have to add it up medical that's $4 ,820 this is pretty new have you got on a payment plan because you can probably talk to them and do it. Not yet. Right. And you're going to wait for them to take you. Well, I was going to wait until the.

59:00Or send to collections. I was going to wait until he was born and then get on a payment plan for just everything. What's the expected day? December 20th. Damn, that sucks. Yeah. For Ethan. Hayden. Hayden. Sorry. It sucks for Hayden. Oh, you guys should have planned better. You guys should have planned better. Dude's birthday is going to be next to Christmas. Yeah, I know. Poor guy. Or essentially on Christmas. Better give him a super birthday or super Christmas then. Double the gifts. Don't split it up. Don't split it up. You said double it? Double it. I always feel bad for people that have birthdays near Christmas as kids.

59:44I know. So that's all the statements from the debt relief program. Oh, these fees and charges? Are you sure you're even making the difference in the end? So they settled the debt. This is crazy. I know they do, but the settlement fee and charges and extra shit. There's so much in here. Who knows if you even made it? Who knows what difference was even made in the end? You've already done it. Now that's the end of the debts. except not because you said you have a mortgage maybe that's attached to one of these it would be under veteran or not veterans USAA oh penny mac a sneaky little penny mac at the end okay what's the house worth do we know you don't know Zillow says 252 ,000 great and if Zillow is saying that then you guys have a negative equity position which is really not good you guys 0 % down didn't you yeah it's a risky situation it can be it can be okay as long as you guys take care of it if you have to get out of this in the case of an emergency for some reason for whatever it's gonna because you're probably negative equity on this home you owe 242 ,324 dollars six percent mortgage okay okay yeah okay okay and a payment of 1 ,798 now if your take-home pay that's not how it's always you know calculated in terms of whether or not it's good whatever take-home pay yeah it's 27 yeah i mean you guys can afford this mortgage it's not a bad mortgage that five thousand dollars shouldn't have made or break your entire financial situation because not i mean i don't know what the you're talking about the situation you blame it on having to put a closing cost you guys are spending ten thousand dollars on mattresses that's the that's so stupid you're spending eight thousand dollars on a two thousand dollar computer it wasn't the closing costs i don't know what you're talking about you don't know what you're talking about it was all of the like all of our deaths it was these things well those aren't from a year ago they're from now and that's the situation you're in so i don't give a f**k about a year ago but you keep bringing up that five thousand dollar closing costs you came up with that you said that's where the problems arise well they're not it's a ten thousand dollars in mattresses i said that's when we went into the debt relief program i don't get yes but you blame the debt relief program on why your finances are bad at the beginning.

1:02:15They're not. Well, our finances are not and that's why we did the debt relief program. I don't care about that. I don't care. That has nothing to do with any of this. It's the mattress of stupidity. It's the computer of dumbness. All right, let's be real for a second. Dealing with car insurance is absolute death. One minute you think you're getting a decent rate and the next you're hit with some random$50 fee. Don't even get me started on trying to compare different companies. It's like trying to find a needle in a pile of taquitos. You're probably getting ripped off without even knowing it. But here's where you can stop this madness.

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1:04:09Pregnancy brain? Yes. It is. Chat, let me know. $1 ,000 in our USAA. There's the overdraft. There's the overdraft. We had it. On his account. On his account. And did you even know that? Yeah. So you know something. So why don't you guys know everything then? What is this Knox shop? Must be on the base. Yeah. Yeah, he was so he was at he was at a training event for two months. Knock shop and in-app purchases and MFE and knock shop and Apple cash sent out and knock shop and DoorDash and Taco Bell. Apple cash sent Nintendo, Nintendo, DoorDash and Dairy Queen. They usually have those on the bases, don't they?

1:04:58I see videos talking about amazing military bases with Dairy Queens in them. They have a lot of fast food places. Yeah, that's great. But he's door dashing them, so it doesn't even matter. Apple Cash. Apple Cash. Apple Cash sent. Apple Cash sent. Where is all this Apple Cash going? Why? To help pay with bills. Because you just have a joint checking account. I don't understand. You're so convoluted and stupid. Because then he overdrafts. Dude, he$47 after he sent$249 to you. $47 in an adult checking account is unacceptable. It's dangerous. And are there in-app Apple subscription or Fortnite crew?

1:05:40He's getting Fortnite crewing. He's getting his crew up in Fortnite. Great. Apple Cash Send. Ultimate one month. Microsoft Ultimate. Great. Knock Shop. Knock Shop. GNC. I don't even know what that is. It's the workout stuff. Huh? Like. Powder? Yeah, like protein powder. Oh, there it is. Overdraft fee. Because. Because. Because. when did that happen uh i think it's because he tried to send you money 681 dollars so when he's away at training and stuff i have to handle a lot of the bills just be together on one account and set things up automatically in budget and this does not have to be as crazy and convoluted as you guys make it i think i need to give him a call in the post show i need to give him a call on the financial autopo show.

1:06:31This is crazy. Oh my gosh. He's, he has to be like gambling in apps or he's buying gems or he's doing something because in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app, in-app. He does play a lot of games on his phone. He needs to stop playing for them and play things that are skill-based. Knox store, MFE, MFE, Cinemark, Amazon, Apple Cash sent out, Uber Trip, Apple Cash Nintendo, Nintendo Apple Cash sent out something army related and then Apple Cash sent out or in app, in app, in app in app, in app, Star Wars something okay Apple Cash Carson Carson Loaf and Jug Apple Bell More Microsoft DoorDash and Crumble Cookies And DoorDash Taco Bell Hayden likes Taco Bell I don't give a f*** because he loves diarrhea too Well he doesn't have to deal with that yet Only I do Oh that one's Hayden Imagine trying to wipe with diarrhea While having pregnant stomach Also I was going to say For my car payment It was a day late because I get paid on the 1st and 16th of the month and it pulls on the 15th.

1:07:59Why'd you say you didn't know what I was talking about? Because I didn't consider that late because I didn't get a late fee for it. Okay. And then in this Navy Federal,$7. Wow, great. Hulu, Roadhouse Cinema, McDonald's, Apple Cash Cent, Apple Cash Cent, Apple Cash Cent, Amazon, Apple Cash Cent, Apple, in app, cha-ching. You guys spend so much money on bulls**t So much money on nothing It's entertainment You know what's entertaining Not have to Beg your child for money Because you didn't save up enough money to retire I mean that's not necessarily true That's not necessarily true What the f**k are you talking about So um My husband You'll have a little bit of retirement and benefits Is it going to sustain the lifestyle you guys want we'll see in 20 years fun fact I mean veterans not historically known for having absolutely perfect finances in retirement so I don't think that's 100 % our just end everything's going to be perfect oh more spending great and reminder the$7 in this account that's great come on kids come to the world get your together Walmart plus steam purchase Domino's Alta convenience Amazon more Microsoft Xbox stuff more Microsoft Xbox stuff Christopher Woods Joe's buttons Joe button wow great dope like the podcast dude Apple in app in app cha-ching cha-ching Microsoft ultimate why do we have so much Microsoft ultimate everywhere Spotify you can pay for ads of kids coming into the world Streamlabs is he streaming yeah how many viewers does he get like four Okay, you can stop paying for use-free software.

1:09:49Apple Cash sent out Loaf and Jug. We love that Loaf and Jug. That's where, that's a gas station. Okay, and Apple Bills and DoorDash and Walgreens. Great. StubHub, wonderful. Apple Bill, In-app, DoorDash, Dollar General, DoorDash and Dollar General just ruining the whole plan of Dollar General. Apple Cash sent Amazon. This is so f***ing long! Apple Cash sent out and Cinemark. Let's go to a real f***ing Movie theater and door dashing in and out. At least get some real food. Amazon, Steam purchase, Shiver and Shat, something, I don't know. Golden Corral. Golden Corral. Come on, we're talking diarrhea.

1:10:28What are we doing? Apple Cash sent out. Zone deorotica. Zone erotica? What are you getting? You're not even filming anymore. Or was it? Okay, maybe she'll say in the post show. When it's a bit more private. Apple Cash sent out. Wolf and Jug. Sonic Drive. And I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours. Tor Dash sent out. You go first. Amazon, Amazon. We'll save it for the post show. That's where we get to have a little more fun instead of making me want to die. Oh, and$0 in this other checking account. Wonderful. That's fantastic. This is transferring money back and forth.

1:11:10Let's get this budget did. Let's see if we have breathing room here. because you guys have gotten yourselves into minimum monthly payments that are really unsustainable. I mean, transportation itself is$1 ,183 a month. It's crazy what you guys have done. I already know your mortgage. Okay. Mortgage is$2 ,000. Oh, sorry. Mortgage is$1 ,798. What's your utilities and internet? Our Wi-Fi is 55. I don't want to miss any frames in Fortnite Utilities And then the solar panels is 100 Utilities, just every other utility Okay, garbage Yeah, all that Garbage is 120 every 3 months Okay Water is at most 75 Okay And then our electric is usually under 20 Just because of the solar panels And is there gas?

1:12:08No, it's all electric And you guys got sold on those solar panels, didn't ya? dude showed up and you were like oh f*** yeah how can I get more debt for a literal like third of our life hopefully a quarter of our life are you excited about having a stinky smelly creature running around pretty excited we wanted a girl initially sorry Ethan you are f***ed you always get his name wrong it's Hayden what was gonna be her name Her name would have been Aviana. Aviana because it came from ovulation? I just think it's a really pretty name. Sure. Okay. Wait, I didn't see your other medical debts that are court ordered.

1:12:56So I didn't submit the document. How much is owed? $13 ,500. Okay, monthly payment? $231. and i tried negotiating with them and they wouldn't budge so so unreliable wow good job having debt payments that are almost double your mortgage so not including your mortgage your debt minimum payments are 2400 and 2412 dollars and 92 cents you know how insane that is that's insane 662 on the um on the of are those subscription based or purchasing per product um both like okay so the revenue that came in is likely gonna just kind of sit yeah cool so it won't go to zero so i can include that so 6 ,626 came in okay I've room from drive drive gas for both of you Normal month best guess $200 Car insurances $700 for both that's together Even still that's ridiculous I know we've been looking at Changing our insurance over $600 for food Should be good it's definitely good You're gonna meal prep It's the way of life follow the meal plan and the budgeting class To get to your needs $150 for TP fund anything else you guys need This is getting your nails did.

1:14:23This is doing whatever. Makeup, whatever. $150. Medical, ongoing, co-pays. What do you have on an ongoing monthly basis that you must pay? Just the$231. No co-pays. Not debt. I don't have co-pays. Okay. And do you have pets? Yes. What? Three dogs, two cats. Oh, good. How much in pet food? We do a$50 bag every two weeks. So 100 a month. What about the cat? Oh, the cat's is like a$30 bag. And that lasts usually a month, month and a half. Okay, 130. Do you have pet insurance? Yes. For all? For three. Three? For two of the dogs and one of the cats. What's wrong with the other dog? He doesn't, he's not bad.

1:15:13You guys don't like him enough? No, we love him. He's just not naughty. Trust me. It's not how it works. I've dealt with a lot of pets. the bills one is naughty she tries to eat everything she's the one that's gone the most but the other one even though he doesn't really get in anything even when he was a puppy he did and he had a it's okay how much in pet insurance um it's i think it's 50 a piece so 150

1:15:39okay anything else that needs to be in here that i don't know about this is if you guys combine your accounts and i'm you what you guys should i'm very curious to see if you guys do go on so your thing um i was just thinking about other payments i think that's that's everything genuinely how did you not know your interest rates on things and payments on other things and how are you just not aware of so much of the stuff that he handles i don't really How is it a he and me thing? You guys are married. Because he's like, I'm taking care of it. And I'm like, okay. Well, I mean, there's late payments and bullshit.

1:16:23I don't know what you're talking about. $6 ,330.92 to survive. You only have leftover. Essentially$300, just under, but it's called$300. That's what's leftover. Have you seen you spent$10 ,000 this last month? If we get rid of your mortgage, but, oh, my gosh, add in that other medical debt that you didn't tell us about, you have$93 ,000, horrific debt. And with the extra$300 a month, you'll pay it off in 310 months. It's a long time. Yeah, your kid's going to be 26. And that's without spending any money on the cards, which we know you're incapable of. That's without your debt increasing or taking out any more debt.

1:17:16So what's the play? Because you're probably going to go on maternity. Is it paid maternity? So Colorado, they have a family. It's called Family Plus. It's different from FMLA. So your taxes from your paycheck go towards it. Okay. So they'll pay up to$1 ,100 every two weeks. Oh, every two weeks. So for how long? Three months. Is that what you're going to do is three months? it depends on how much time i need to heal but that's the plan it's three just three then you're going back in yeah okay when's dude done when is he done with this army adventure uh he wants to do like the lifetime commitment okay how can we get him to earn more money then um picking up a second job and then also yeah but that's hard because he's inconsistent everywhere yeah so he needs to start getting what he needs to figure out the ranking process real quick i can't speak to that at all but what either of you need to make more money but you're about to be out because even again doubling this takes it down to what 12 years to pay off that's still that's you know doubling your payments to go towards it that's still ridiculous that's still ridiculous so like it's not even including the mortgage that's crazy all your bad debt would be paid off in a similar amount of time as your mortgage oh my gosh i don't think you guys have to go through bankruptcy though i really don't the thing is if we could find a way to bring in an extra 2 000 which again this is just one of you needs to make more money what was it 95 000 or something like that yeah just for an example okay so 2 000 if you guys bring in an extra 2 000 47 months that's totally doable four years four years is okay you guys will be mid-20s four years is totally fine then we can start catching up on retirement from your side especially i don't know the thing is is he's just gonna have to continue his internal promotions or once you're well into motherhood and you're able to get the kid taken care of somehow without you being there i don't know you might just have to well what's gonna happen you're gonna who's are you sending the kid to daycare so i i'm going back to school for um well not it's a certification in medical billing and coding and it's online you're the job you're doing while you're doing that uh i'm not sure because i was just okay well remember you literally only with your minimum payments have an extra 300 if you take away your 2 000 hours a month you cannot survive but then on top of that child care so i was thinking exactly if i if i was working from home and making you know money it's better than having to pay for a daycare because then how are you going to survive those months of going through the certification if you literally do not have money to survive i'm doing it so you can work your job through it wait through getting the certification oh yeah yeah i thought you meant doing both the jobs at the same time no what you're going to do is you're gonna work your day job whatever that might be at home as you're intending to do.

1:20:26Hopefully we can even get that. And then you're working a second job from home later in the evening when dad gets home or he's just working another job or getting up through the ranks quicker. But I don't know about that process either way in extra$2 ,000 a month, which is not an insignificant amount of money that takes a lot of work to get. That still is a four year process. So you guys with your solar, with your ridiculously high interest cars that you were too expensive for you to afford ten thousand dollars for mattresses incredibly dumb incredibly dumb the personal loan on the uh closing costs because you got a home too early that you couldn't do it and all the medical bills because i don't you're just i don't know all the decisions you guys have done in the computer the computer the ridiculous computer take this all together and you guys have just put yourselves in such a position that is almost beyond fixable but bring an extra 2 000 hours a month do a proper debt negotiator i don't know about those guys even bankruptcy which again it's expensive it's stressful and you guys don't even know your own finances it's gonna get real real quick but you need to choose one of the sacrifices working your stuff more bankruptcy yeah so for bankruptcy he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to file for bankruptcy okay well there you go answer solved i mean it's good enough for me so it's the that negotiation which again i it really depends on cases you need to fix your behavior first but either way you guys just aren't living the life that you're living during that whole thing you're really not so you just have to choose what life is better for you and keep in touch with us go through the education keep coming on the follow-up channel and we'll keep we'll we'll keep grinding away at it but you just need to make more money now and then cut your lifestyle back to zero because it's really not a choice and unfortunately birthing a child is not cheap getting all that together so that becomes a whole extra thing on top of this you guys are probably bringing a kid into the world a little too early let's be honest just financially speaking i'm not talking about emotional maturity or anything just financially you guys got a house way too early i mean spending a budget guys overspent you have collections of debt zero out of ten spending a budget zero out of ten emergency fund there was nothing at saving zero out of ten retirement he probably has a little because the military and just whatever is even contributing to the fund there yeah it's called a tsp and what's he doing i think it's a hundred dollars a month.

1:23:08Okay, so I'll give it two just to be generous. And then real estate, I mean, you guys don't have an emergency fund and you have the house. It's a little rough. You actually have negative equity in the home. It's the one time we're earning real estate. It's going to not be the best score. It's only going to be a 3 out of 10. And it's just crazy. And it's because you can technically afford the payment. Okay. Hammer financial score, 1 out of 10. Make sure to join us for our pro show. We'll talk about that naughty subject. And we'll also get the husband on the phone and talk about more drama that we didn't have a chance to get to when we bring in the producers make sure you join that link in the description below and also check out our new debt class which is at a discount for this first month and the first 500 people who sign up get to hear in person while asking my question well over the live stream my debt payoff journey see you in the post show today on the financial audit post show now that it's a more private had and only a few people were seeing this.

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