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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Repulsive Sugar Baby Milks Men For Money
General Description In this episode of the "Financial Audit" podcast, host Caleb Hammer interviews a guest named Amanda, a 32-year-old pharmacy technician from Georgetown, Texas. The conversation delves into Amanda's financial habits, spending behaviors, and the role her boyfriend plays in her finances. The episode juxtaposes Amanda's perception of financial responsibility against Hammer's blunt critiques of her spending habits and financial literacy.
Key Highlights
Introduction of the Guest
- Amanda's Background
- Age: 32
- Occupation: Pharmacy Technician
- Current Earnings: $24/hour, recently raised to $25/hour.
- Stressed financial situation, admitting to poor financial management.
Amanda's Financial Overview
- Current Employment and Income
- Works full-time but is reducing hours due to pursuing education in radiology.
- Initially struggles to pay for school tuition ($1,900) due to lack of cash flow, opting for loans instead.
- Spending Habits
- Admits to overspending and borrowing to maintain a lifestyle that includes non-essential purchases.
- Engages in frequent transactions for small treats, particularly Red Bulls and dining out.
Discussion on Financial Responsibility
- Relationship Dynamics
- Amanda expects her boyfriend to provide financial support, which she sees as normal.
- Discussion about whether her boyfriend knows the extent of her spending and financial struggles.
- Confrontation on Spending
- Hammer challenges Amanda's view that her boyfriend should subsidize her spending.
- Emphasizes the importance of financial independence and the dangers of relying on others for financial stability.
- Credit Card Debt
- Amanda has multiple credit cards nearing their limits, accruing high-interest fees.
- Acknowledges missed payments and the impact on her credit score, which is in the 500s.
Key Financial Insights
- Mismanagement and Consequences
- The conversation reveals Amanda's lack of budgeting and financial planning knowledge.
- Hammer points out the risk of her financial habits leading to significant debt and potential bankruptcy.
- Reality Check
- Amanda's spending on non-essentials, such as frequent Red Bulls, is highlighted as a key factor in her financial struggles.
- Discussions about the importance of making sacrifices and understanding the long-term consequences of her financial choices.
Key Takeaways
- Financial Literacy is Crucial
- Understanding the basics of budgeting, spending, and saving is essential for financial independence.
- The Role of Relationships
- Dependence on a partner for financial support can lead to unhealthy dynamics and a lack of accountability.
- Awareness of Debt Impact
- Amanda learns that her actions have real-world consequences, including deteriorating credit scores and financial instability.
- Encouragement to Take Action
- Hammer emphasizes the need for Amanda to take responsibility for her financial situation and to use the resources available to improve her financial literacy.
Conclusion This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of financial negligence and the importance of taking control of one's finances. Amanda's journey highlights the need for education and personal responsibility in achieving financial health. The dialogue provides insight into the pitfalls of consumerism and the necessity of prioritizing essential expenses over fleeting pleasures.
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0:28. . To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. Been asking for more. You're taking money from your boyfriend for little sweet treats. Why don't you just damn pay your bills damn on time? I think that a man should take care of a woman. That's just how I think. You think your boyfriend, because he's a man, should have to subsidize your inability to control your own spending? Does he even know where your money's going? What does he think he's helping with? Well, a lot of times I tell him. A lot of times? Yeah. Not every time? No. Hi, my name is Amanda. I'm 32 years old.
1:03I'm based out of Georgetown, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. Thanks for coming on. So what do we do in Georgetown for a living? I'm a pharmacy tech. Okay, very cool. A retail pharmacy. Okay, that's a great industry to be in. So how much are we making right now? Well, I guess at the time it was$24. At the time. What's at the time? whenever i was gave you those now i'm getting a raise 25 but it hasn't oh congratulations 25 from 24 14 okay so it's kind of a minor raise all right well it is still a good race oh well i wasn't talking down against it well why are you gonna um you're gonna come in offended well what was that why is because my mom is like always saying oh you get so many good raises or whatever Do you?
1:54Yeah, I think so. What did you start at when you started working there? As a pharmacy tech. Well, it wasn't at that retail pharmacy. It was at a different one that I started. And it was at, I think, 16. Well, at the job you're at now, where'd you start? Oh, 23. Over the course of how long to get to 25? September 22. So two years with a$2 raise? Yeah. That's what your mom considers really good raises? Yeah, apparently she's like getting 25 cents or something. And she's been with the company for like over 10 years. She did the same job? Oh, no. Oh, then what? Well, I don't know. Maybe, I don't know what they're supposed to make at other places.
2:37Okay. So you made like a 75 cent increase? Yeah. Something like that. Okay. So you got like a 3 % increase? Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds right. Okay. Because if I get a three, it's, I don't know, like the base. You feel that's keeping up with cost of living? No. Okay. Are you kidding? I don't know. I can't. No, I'm struggling out here. Easy. Again, you scare me. You're like, no. Okay. Well, obviously, you know, the, well, some people don't. They don't like, well, okay. inflation the most recent report it sounds like you're keeping up with the median wage growth that has happened actually uh but obviously you know certain sectors within the economy is growing more in terms of price increases like groceries and stuff like that yes uh well at least over the pandemic not right now technically year over year but during the pandemic it went up higher than anything else either way regardless okay a three percent increase how many hours a week are we working so i was 40 but i'm going down to about tone but i'm going to school full-time oh wow oh i just said yeah i'm pretty sure i told y 'all you may have talked to someone else we're having a conversation oh my bad i thought you read this stuff that's why that's but we're having it they haven't the audience is not okay i got it i got it now you're so defensive aggressive is she always like this your friend was the one who wanted you to come on the show she's a fan of the show and you've seen like an episode okay you said friend earlier yeah um okay guys this is weird okay but and she just said yes this is how you are so all right so you're going to school what are you going to school for um i'm gonna be a radiology technologist very cool okay so you've had to drop your hours because of that so we got a raise that's kind of negated so how many hours are you gonna be working now a week um let's see so eight 16 hours for the month for this first month no no no not the whole month i just mean weekly for this first month and then the second month i want to see where how i do well or not in school what it's been a long time it is there's nothing wrong with starting school again not at all um how are you paying for school um it's financial aid loans what school are you going to is that public uh yeah what's the tuition there what's what the tuition there um well for my four classes that i'm taking now it's gonna be about 1900 with books why can't you cash flow that are you kidding okay sorry huh uh i can't i don't have the money because you're cutting down on work i i spend horribly that's why okay so i haven't usually the solution is we stop spending horribly i'm confused why not cash flow so you're borrowing to continue your spending of bull not no you know you know that's how that works out right i don't think so that's what how do you not think so that's obviously how it works out make up for everything it's 1900 it's not an insignificant amount of money but over the course of a few months we can cash flow that if you want to okay well that's why i'm here so you can tell me i am but you just said that's not possible what are you talking about no i'm just saying the way i'm thinking i don't i don't think it is at this moment at this moment explain because i don't really think i'm doing that bad okay explain you don't think you're doing that bad because of what what's indicating that well where's your philosophy i would like to at least know where you're coming from so that i can approach the conversation with at least understanding your point of view i don't know what what do you know do you know anything yes i do okay can you tell me any of that then what do you know about your financial situation then okay i do spend a lot i like to you know buy clothes and things like that okay and we're not cutting that back and we're borrowing for school so essentially because you're not willing to cut back on fun bulls that do not actually contribute to your needs you're essentially borrowing for that because you're not cutting that down to pay for school does that not make sense okay yes but i plan on cutting why haven't you because you're borrowing for school if we're gonna talk about the notes that i have i know you're gonna borrow ten thousand dollars that's what you have spoiler alert usually i like to introduce the audience to that through a natural conversation all right if you're borrowing ten thousand dollars and we could get you to cash for half of school well then i'll do uber no that doesn't make sense you're already cutting back from your work hours why wouldn't you that that time is just gonna No, because then I can do Uber whenever I feel okay to do it when I have already studied and everything.
7:55Yeah, but that's not as cost effective, though, because that puts wear and tear on your car. That puts maintenance on your car. Yeah, but I'm on a lease. That's even worse because you have a mile limit. Yeah, but I'm going to just get a new car with them. So then they're going to take that. Sorry. They're just going to take that off. Sorry. Don't apologize to me. You're the one f***ing yourself with leases. oh my god okay so wait i don't think that that's bad though your goal is to roll it over you you're no it's you're still gonna have to pay the extra mileage fees no they said that i will not be for what for what in what kind of deal if i get a car with them okay another lease or buy another or just buy a car and they'll forgive that they'll essentially roll it over into that it's probably what they're gonna do no which by the way is locking you into having to get a car with them meaning you might not get a car at a good deal meaning whatever financing options you have it's likely gonna feel restricted at that bank not at that bank but at that dealership no but i love that dealership why do you love a dealership because they treat me well great but they might take more of your money i don't think so i think so i've gone there for a long time it's a dealership what do you think they're doing they're making money what are you talking about just because they give you a handshake and free cookies doesn't mean they're not making money i mean their lobby is really nice are you is this is this this is real this is her okay i needed to confirm because what the okay so you think you're overspending in terms of income payroll came in 3523 okay okay does that sound about right sure do you know how much comes in I know that it's like 700 something a week because I get paid weekly.
9:45How much do you think was spent? The same amount. That's what my Bank of America says. 3 ,523? Sure. 5 ,325. So I think what happened was my boyfriend, you know, oh, wait. No, that's spending, right? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Never mind. Okay. No, I was thinking because of the transactions that my boyfriend was sending me money as well. Oh, yeah, we had met a paying coming in of$1 ,285 as well. Venmo in$398. Okay, but that doesn't make sense. You're telling me even with that I'm making$3 ,000 and something? We had payroll of$3 ,523. Oh, okay. So then... You don't know anything about your finances, do you?
10:30No, I don't. Have you ever budgeted in your life? Have you ever made a budget? Why are you on the show? I know your cousin, not your friend, your cousin is a fan of the show and you've seen an episode and, you know, you guys, I guess, work together to get on here. Okay, wonderful. Yeah. Why are you here? I'm here because I heard that you can actually help people and that you care to help people. Yeah. And that you like how you're doing now is saying how it is, which is. Oh, yeah. Which, okay. Say how it is. I get that. Oh, yeah. I'm a c***. But I also say what I feel. which is good say what you feel yeah uh might be delusional okay depending um i'm sure i have some delusion as well in certain things we're not all super informed and educated on everything that's impossible yeah we're a dumb species but you know but you don't seem like you understand anything about your current finances do you no i don't okay um well definitely go through the budgeting program you get access to it because you're a guest on the show so we're going to send you through a three-hour class take the quizzes build the budget we're going to create a budget with you by the end of this kind of a makeshift one but what's actually going to be required to make a detailed budget it's going to be actually sitting down and discipline yourself for hours for hours it's going to take a few hours the first time and then every month it'll get shorter and shorter so make sure you sign up for that or you don't sign up for it we give you access to it and you guys can sign up for it in the link in the description below i recommend Absolutely, she's good with money.
12:02Why haven't you come together and done anything? She looks like, what do you make? Trust me, it's not about making. I've had people on this show make well over six figures. It's not about making. It's about managing. It's about spending. It's about understanding. I have no idea because she spends a lot of money, too, so I don't know how the hell she saves. Okay, well, it's not about her regardless. Okay, I would love to see self-assessed. This has just been chaos so far, a hurricane of a conversation. So get back on track. Self-confess. Where do you think your finances are? 10 being the best, zero being the worst.
12:36Right now, where do you think they are? Zero. I really honestly think that. I don't think I'm good at, you know, money. I've heard it a lot of times, especially because I'm getting money from my boyfriend a lot. So. What are you getting money from your boyfriend for? To help me with bills and things like that. He lives in the house with me. It's not like it's just going to me. Well, okay, well, what do you mean? Is he paying for bills or is he giving you money to help with your bills? He's giving me money. That's different. How? That is different than like splitting rent. Is he helping pay the bills or is he giving you money to deal with your bills?
13:17Well, sometimes he does both. Okay, why can you, a 32-year-old adult woman, not able to take care of yourself at all? so i think that a man should take care of a woman that's just how i think you're a trad wife what does that even mean oh first of all you're not a wife and two you have a job so that's not even true but the way trad traditional wife it's like a it's a thing that some people are into in the way that you talked about it you made it sound like that's how you wanted a man should take care of a woman yeah in certain things okay i'm not saying that i shouldn't do stuff myself i just in these past few months been asking for more.
13:57Why? My spending's gotten worse. Okay, so you think your boyfriend because he's a man should have to subsidize your inability to control your own spending. Well, he's okay with doing that. Why? Does he even know where your money's going? What does he think he's helping with? Maybe he thinks he's helping with the water bill. Maybe he thinks he's helping with paying off some debt. Well, a lot of times I tell him what it's going to. A lot of times? Yeah. Not every time? no so he doesn't know where the money that he's giving you so what so how does this how does this work financially you're just like i need some money's daddy i'll be like okay for you um no i'll text him and i'll be like hey babe can you send me 200 and then he'll send me 200 and i'll be like god i feel so icky on either side of that to be honest listen i love giving gifts but like the can I have$200?
14:50This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers. We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew. I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever that's how good leads the way please pretty please is this like i don't know it's a little weird to me but also you guys can live however you want to it's whatever yeah i'll judge it because i'm a judgmental person my dad took care of my mom even whenever they were separated only when she needed help first of all okay when she needs help this isn't you needing help though if you were down on your luck because you got laid off and you can't pay your bills it's different you're taking the money and going and spend it on spending$2 ,000 more than you make.
15:48I just don't believe that. How do you not believe that? Math is math is math is math is math. Okay, but it's because whenever I look at my statement from Bank of America. Yeah, you spend on credit cards. Okay. So this isn't just a bunch of checking account. I forgot about those. Oh, I forgot about the documents that make up 95 % of them. Yeah. That's interesting. Well, that's what happens when we don't look at our statements. And also, because I'm going to look at the conversations that we had beforehand, you also told us that you are even spending more than in the documents that we have. Like now you're spending even worse.
16:24Yeah. Why? It just. Don't you want to go to school? Yes, I do. Okay. Then why are we putting fun over that? Why are we willing to go into debt? Why? We need to get into these finances to give these people some context. This is just, I don't know. This is what I want to talk about because this is just insane. That philosophy, that mindset, where you are on this. It's just wild. It's a little immature and it's a little entitled as well. I did dog sitting and so that gave me extra money. And so I was kind of using that. Then keep dog sitting. Okay. I will. Giving you extra money for what? For school?
17:02No, because you're going and spending more money than you have. And then play money. What play money? Are you allowed to have play money if you're trying to go to? Why would you rather go into debt further than you are right now? And you have a significant amount of debt and we're about to get into a lot of it. But why the f*** would you rather go into more instead of just a little bit of adult sacrifice, 32, to go to school potentially paid for? I want to give you free money right now. I've partnered with different resources that will literally give you hundreds of dollars the moment you sign up for them.
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18:09This is the best way to learn what your investing profile looks like and what investing strategies to use based on that. All of this free money is linked in the resources section of the description below. So don't pass up the free money because I'll punch you. With the money that came in, the money that came in, half of that would have immediately paid for your entire semester. But I don't think I would be able to live on half of that regardless. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying half of what came in from your payroll would have been able to pay for your entire semester. Entire semester. Okay.
18:40I'm not saying you would have to live off of half of it, but just for an example, half of what you brought in from your own work would have paid for the entire semester. Yes. Well, as I said, we're borrowing because we want to spend almost double what we make because we need to ask daddy for a little bit more money. Daddy as in boyfriend, by the way. I do not call him daddy. How much do you make Dog City? I don't know. It's just. Why do a job if you don't know how much you're making? Because I'm doing because I just started doing it. And what's just starting? Like, oh, OK. Well, I don't do it all the time.
19:14That's the thing. So they just call me and I started an hourly rate. No, they just give me what they think is, you know, enough. You don't have like a floor like I won't do it if it's not this much. Now I do at this point. I think this is like on Rover. No, it's just through a coworker, through coworkers. And then they sent me to somebody. Okay. Yeah. And then they sent me to one of their neighbors. And so now I do that for a neighbor. Listen, if you want your hammer financial score, like she just gave us a zero out of 10, which I do respect that. Honestly, that's good. I'm happy you're aware of that.
19:51Check it out. It's free in the link in the description below. Also, if you want to be on the show, if you also don't know a single thing about your finances and you need to be kind of told what's up apply to be on the show caleb hammer.com slash apply we're happy to look at every application all right let's start this little debt journey because we've been chit-chatting we've been chit-chatting a little more than i'd like before talking about debt but it happens because there's a lot to talk about here apparently bank of america credit card there was that much that's because you don't think what you're doing it's wrong so like you wouldn't think i don't though all right i'll let you concentrate so on here we owe 447.37 that's not an insane balance with a minimum payment of 48 okay um there's an extra 35 for pass ado that was an accident what do you mean it was an accident They don't send me notifications.
20:48To put on auto pay. You're taking money from your boyfriend for little sweet treats. Why don't you just damn pay your bills damn on time? That was a mistake. A one-time mistake. One time? On that card. One time on this card.
21:04Incorrect. Second time this year. Oh, wow. So, f*** you. Okay, hold on a second. That's wrong. That's a second time. Okay, yes, I was wrong, but that's... No, you, like, lied to me. You tried to make it sound better. I can't remember. How can you not remember? This year has only had eight months in it so far. That's a long time. Eight months? Yes, it is. Really, out of your 32 years? Yeah, I don't remember what I did yesterday. You were so confident that you've never missed a payment on this card and tried to make yourself sound better, and literally within just a few months, you've had an other missed payment.
21:39You're like, this is an accident. This only happened once. No, no. But it happened one other time. Yeah, that's what two means. One plus one is two. That's how that works. But it's not that bad. How is that not that bad? What do you mean? Do you not understand finances? Missing a payment on a debt that accrues fees, that is accruing interest, that is at its balance limit? Its limit is$500. Again, you're at$447. Okay. So with that, and you're missing a payment twice thinking it was only once, that's not that bad? What do you mean that's not that bad? That's like saying because I injected twice instead of four times, it's not that bad.
22:12It's still pretty bad. Okay, that makes sense. That does. You're right. But I still don't think compared to... What? No, go on, please. I mean, it doesn't not go on your credit, though. Huh? It doesn't go on your credit that you've missed payments, though. A late payment, probably not. A full missed payment, yes. Okay, so it's not that bad. You're losing money. Money. And you are borrowing money. So that is bad. You think it's only bad if it impacts your credit? No. How about you owing more money? I think that is pretty bad. I just don't think it's that bad. How is it not? That's all I think. That's all I think.
22:55Okay. So if it's not that bad, if it's not the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst, it's okay. It's excusable. It's okay to have. If it's not the worst thing in the world. If it's not 9-11, guys, it's not that bad. If it's not another Holocaust, guys, it's not that bad. Is that how we're using logic in this world? no if it's not an absolute gun against the head murder whatever's happening isn't that bad if it's not the worst thing in the world it's not that bad who cares if it's not that bad it's bad the word is bad in it okay why would we do anything that is considered bad why would we would do anything that's opposite of good wouldn't we want to be good doing well wouldn't we want that okay yes i do want to do that okay that's why i'm here yeah well if you're going to be here here and have the conversation don't lie about how many missed payments you've had late payments one payment two two no one extra payment that i oh my god what i'm okay you're obviously really upset about the missed payment i will not know that it's not being upset about the missed payment it's being upset that you don't understand the impact of it being upset that you don't think it's that bad meaning that you're willing to do it again because if it's really not that bad then you're going to do it again because it's not having that impact on you.
24:10That's what bothers me is that you don't give a enough about it. You don't think it's that bad, meaning that you're willing to do it again, meaning that if you walk away from this conversation, instead of having a positive follow up, like we just uploaded today on our follow up channel, you know, it was very happy. Someone turned their life around. That's great. Instead, you're going to walk out this door and you're going to continue to because you don't think it's that bad. That's what upsets me. That's what upsets me. Okay. What do you want me to say to that? yes it's bad and i won't do it again for sake okay and then on here on the credit card what are we doing we're just stopping at h-e-b every second of our life and swiping swiping swiping swiping swiping swiping we're swipe addict we're swiping every second of our life it's it's close to my job so wonderful guess what i'm close to like a million gas stations i don't go in there and swipe swipe swipe well compared to a gas station the prices are better going to get in little drinks and snacks they have to be they're four dollar purchases uh well i have to have my red bull so have to have your red bull yes i i cannot go a day without my red bull yeah but it's just the caffeine itself it's literally just the caffeine itself make coffee at home make tea at home drink straight caffeine take a caffeine pill your addiction to it is literally the caffeine maybe a bit on the sugar end obviously you like the taste okay obviously you like the taste but in reality what you need is the caffeine so we can find alternatives you're in the habit you're in the ritual you don't need it you're an adult don't act like a baby you don't need a bottle you don't need to be sucking on the nip you have multiple alternatives wow what you disagree oh i just don't want to give them up oh great so conversation's done right there it is that's the end of the episode right that's it that's a red bull it's a red bull you absolute what i can't think of a word that describes what i'm thinking okay ask my family they can tell you something probably what's a word that describes her in this situation you absolute glutton i don't know you're spending double double double double what you make on this on this so it's just a red ball no it's not you're spending almost double what you make because you can't stop swiping.
26:33Okay. Well, now that you say... Hi, I'm here to pick up my son Milo. There's no Milo here. Who picked up my son from school? Streaming only on Peacock. I'm going to need the name of everyone that could have a connection. You don't understand. It was just the five of us. So this was all planned. What are you going to do? I will do whatever it takes to get my son back. I honestly didn't see this coming. These nice people killing each other. All her fault. A new series streaming now only on Peacock. Get like that. Maybe I understand a little better. But you just said you're not willing to give it up.
27:11Well, maybe I will. I used to drink coffee. Drink coffee. It's so cheap. Okay. Bean juice. Bean juice. It's good. Doesn't give you wings, but it's good. Change to Starbucks. No, not that kind of. No, the powder. Oh my god. You know what I'm talking about. You almost scared me. The moment you said that, my producer's tight to kill her. I'm not talking about that. I promise. I promise. I can promise you today. I will not do that. Okay. Listen, if those are the beans, they're a little overpriced for what they are because they're burnt beans. Honestly, the HEB beans are better. Well, they're good.
27:57Yeah. Those are good too. Like the roasted pecan ones, I think. Those ones are very yummy. Okay, that's fine. I like the Colombian one. Beautiful, wonderful. There you go. You just saved a ton of money. Okay? Okay, let's do that then. And you don't, there's no, you know, sometimes at work, like for example here, there's free coffee for the people. Do you get coffee at work? It's like a coffee machine there? Well, they have the espresso machine there. There you go, and that's free, right? Yeah. We just saved ourselves a lot of money. Yeah, my boss gets it. He's really nice. Well, that's great. There you go.
28:30Nice, boss. Have a nice life. Why not? F***ing your future. Because our future, f***ing our future, f***ing our future, f***ing our future, f***ing our future. We did that. Mind you, this is on a card that's maxed out that we're missing payments on twice this year and is accruing interest. $65 this year. So far,$70 in fees at a 30 % interest rate. That's a 30 %? Yes. Oh, my God. Okay, I see where we're starting. Yes, okay. With really no knowledge of our finances. No. Legitimately no knowledge. 30 % is a lot. It's a substantial number. I remember when my first car, I had it at 18%. That was 18%.
29:14I would like to know. I want to put this more into context even. Just to demonstrate how bad 30 % is. Do you know on the best average investing in the overall stock market, the best you'll get on a yearly breakdown over a 10-year period? If you average it out over the course of a year. Well, I was planning this stuff. What do you think that money's getting? My 401k. I don't care. We'll talk about that. 5%. No, no, no, no. What do you think it's returning in the stock market with the growth? Oh, I don't know. I know nothing about that stuff. That's okay. I just want to put this in demonstration.
29:46Let's say I open up my investing brokerage, Moo Moo. I open up my app. Wonderful. I buy into the S &P 500, The best returning index fund over the course of... You're going to write that down for me though, right? Sure. And I buy into that. Over the course of 10 years, or actually over the course of its lifetime, all up years, all down years combined, the money that I've invested is making 10 % on average. 10%. You are losing three times that on this credit card. Three times the best that you could hope for in the overall stock market. Okay. That's how bad it is. Yeah, that's really bad. You're not a credit card person.
30:26You don't know how to make payments. Not being a credit card person is okay. Okay. Not being a credit card person is okay. That's not an insult. There's no need to be a credit card person. It's really meant for the people that are disciplined, and you're not, and that's okay with your finances. I'm sure you are in other places of life. That's fine, you know? You need to use a charge card like the Fizz card, one that forces you to pay off the entire balance on a monthly basis, or else, you know, you just can't. or a card that essentially you put the balance on and then you can pay only what you have on there.
30:55But you cannot use a traditional credit card that gives you this infinite amount of money that you can just spend and forget payments on. Are you talking about a secured card? Yes, there's a lot of alternatives, but you cannot use a traditional credit card. That's what's most important to me. You can't. Okay. I mean, you can't. Do you recognize this? Yes. Do you acknowledge this? Okay. Because it's gotten you into a world of hurt, including the second one, Apple. It's a very big credit card on this show that a lot of people have. You have$744.80 owed on it with a$25 minimum fee payment. Minimum fee payments are really going to stack up for someone who's cutting their hours in half.
31:31Yes. Previous balance is the same balance as it. Oh, no, no, the balance went up. What the? What? Okay. What did I do? What you did is you made your afterpay payments on here. Yeah, that's hysterical. Your life is a burning pile of trash. So, Afterpay's not good? Do you understand what this means? Okay. Do you understand what this means? I would like you to explain kind of what's happening here. I'm not paying it right away, and I can pay it later. So, this is how I look at this. This is the way you're doing it. Okay. You want to go make a purchase. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not going to pay for it all right now, so I'm going to put it on Afterpay.
32:17Yeah. So that I make multiple payments on it. Yeah. But instead of you paying off your afterpay, you then further put it on a credit card, meaning you're delaying the payment twice. Right. You're afterpaying your afterpay. Well, what's wrong with that? Meaning you're never making your payments. You're only stacking up what you owe at any given time. But then I end up making payments to my credit card. Okay. And we know how that goes with just literally one car to go. So what the f*** are you talking about? Okay. Okay? What do you mean okay? I didn't think about it that way. You didn't think about it after literally two minutes ago.
32:57We were just talking about it. You're supposed to explain it to me. So that's why. I just did. I know. So now I know. Okay. Okay.
33:07Okay. If you are not able to pay for an item, don't buy it. Let's start there. And two, if you do have to pay, which please don't because you just can't manage that. don't pay it by going into debt more. Don't afterpay your afterpay, and don't afterpay your afterpay your afterpay, which I have a feeling we... Have you ever done a balance transfer or consolidation? No. Oh, thank... Because if you did that, that would be afterpay and your afterpay and your afterpay. I don't even know how to do that. Good. Okay. And please don't. Just... I'm sorry. Just... That would scare me if you knew what those were, because I don't want you to even, like, recognize that those exist.
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33:45Okay. Just forget I even mentioned those products. I really don't remember what you just said. Good. Good. And don't Google ways to get out of debt because some places will recommend things like that. But you're not disciplined enough to do them. So it is a good way, but not good for me. For those who are disciplined. Okay. Yeah. You don't know how to not spend money. So. Okay. Or manage a budget. Not yet. We'll get you there. You're not there yet. What interest rate do you think this one's at? I don't know. What do you think? 20. 27.24. Why are they all that high? Because they're a credit card and rates are at...
34:22But they don't have to be that high. They want to make money and there's also a lot of risk involved in giving someone like you access to money. Well, that makes more sense now. Yeah. One, it takes on risk from the bank if I'm looking at the bank perspective. But two, also they're just money grubbers. They want it and they know they can take advantage of people like you. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but they know they can. So they do. And interest rates are also high at the moment. So interest rates, when I started the show on credit cards, they're sitting close to around 20%. Now they're around 30 % because interest rates have gone up to combat inflation.
34:56Yeah, my dad told me that. You didn't know that? Outside of that? I didn't know. I thought it was on the houses because that's all we talked about. We didn't really talk about credit cards. You and your dad are talking about houses? Well, we have a house together. Me, my dad, my mom, and my boyfriend. they got it for me wait what does that even mean what does that even mean every time I explain this they're saying that it's not my house but it is my house once they pass and I know how old are they I don't even care how it sounds I just wanted to know how old they are I'm only thinking from the financial situation 53 okay so I don't know I'm asking her.
35:44Oh, you looked at her? Sorry, my eyes were closed. I forgot she's over there. It's a conversation between me and you. Well, you shouldn't forget about your fan. Well, it's a conversation between me and you. Okay, I'm sorry. So what's wrong with that? Because they're going to put it in a trust. I need to know the structure of this a little bit more. So what do you mean they bought... So are you on the mortgage? No. Okay. Good. I couldn't get a house. That's why they get it. Yeah, no sh**. That's obvious. Nor would I want you to get one. okay because you'd be house poor well i saw how much it was just for them to get it i mean that's just ridiculous why would they do this because i am they knew that i always wanted a house and that they gave me that as a present i guess i'm gonna be candid and it's kind of like our titles i mean but i'll be candid this isn't me disliking you and i'm sure many parts of your life are good but when it comes to your finances with your boyfriend with your parent with your spending with your management you're a spoiled brat you think so you are a spoiled brat how do you just your parents literally got a mortgage because you've always wanted a house everyone's always wanted a house your boyfriend gives you money for you to spend on sweet treats and you spend double what you make okay yes you have to have your red bull so you're willing to go into debt for that and have someone else buy your house and give you money spoiled brat not as an insult I just want to call it as a see it we can fix that if you actually want to but your actions right now are the actions of a spoiled brat and I'm not going to just coddle fine do you agree or disagree well I think that my boyfriend should still send me money I don't think that why do you want it to be like a sugar baby sugar daddy situation I just want him to take care of me that's all it's not even taking care of you it's literally you going and spending more money well he can send me money every now and then to do nails which I didn't get okay and I listen I again I love giving gifts I do and if anyone ever wants this uh you're trying to be a sugar daddy yes no not really no I love giving gifts but I give gifts out of just you know love for friends love for family love for you know if I'm dating someone but if someone was coming up to me the person I was dating and like give me money it's don't say like that you make me sound bad okay it's this it's it's it's also enabling you as well okay there is that i i can see yes which is not helping you or your future right and your parents potentially enabled you so you're not on the are you on the deed we don't have but they put it in a trust there's a no they're going to and i don't know any of why haven't they set up the trust yet what happens if they die tomorrow exactly and that's what i told them i said y 'all need to do that because somebody had told them to do it since it wouldn't i wouldn't have to pay taxes or something i don't really know the whole thing the whole gist of it well my fear is well you're not okay what my fear was is that you were also on the mortgage and what would happen if they like died today you would be in a situation that would be right so listen again i think this kind of goes in the way of like you know a little bit of spoiled which it's okay to be spoiled by the way it's more the demeanor and your actions around it that matter more people can be like spoiled as kids and turn out to be really good people yeah but if you think you're like you're entitled to things and you got which you demonstrate through your spending and through your behavior with boyfriend um that's where that kind of throws me off and wow this episode's wild why this is just a wild conversation.
39:30I'm just realizing now this is hitting me. This is intense. We're 40 minutes in and I've talked about two damn documents. We're going to be here for a second. And I'm conducting job interviews in an hour. Oh, really? Good for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. You may need to do some of those soon to get more money. Probably. Our budgeting program, which is provably the best that can be taken anywhere online is now bundled with our investing program where you can get$100 in cash gifted into your Moo Moo account. This is literally the best education you can take in your life right now to turn around your financial life or take where you are and make your life even better.
40:15These are bundled together for a limited time for 15 % off. Check them out. Links in the description below. All right, we have a Quicksilver card. Quicksilver. Oh, that's capital. I don't know what they're called If you say Capital One Then I'm like okay But I don't know what a Quicksilver is Sorry I don't know what the context of that was Well you looked at me like I was stupid No I was waiting for you to say What you were trying to say I don't think you're stupid Listen I'm sure in many aspects of life Again that you're probably great at your job You're probably great in the pharmacy world You're a dumb f*** of finances I'm pretty okay at finances but I would be a dumb f*** in the world of pharmacy.
40:56It's okay to not know things about things, but then you just listen to the people that, you know, have success in certain areas. That's okay. I'm a dumb f*** on a lot of things. Sit me down in a geometry class, and I'm like, I don't know what's going on. You know, I just, like, I f***ing grow, like, 10 more chromosomes. Like, it's just, you know, it's just a wild situation. Yeah. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. $1 ,409.41 with a$51 minimum fee payment. yes you are to the credit limit right there you're basically at the credit limit again all of them are really? yes all of my cards and$37 of interest is occurring what do you think the interest rate on this card is?
41:38I guess another 30 % yeah we'll play that game one more time because now you're catching on 30.49 % interest is occurring thank you thank you thank you for not spending on this card I don't spend on my card? I'm confused well that's telling me that you did since this statement probably since you also told us that you've been spending more than these statements reflect which is crazy because you spend double what you make well I don't have any money to spend so maybe that's why can you pull up your app for me
42:17right now alright I'm a little sneaky little sneaky thing. Is it the same? Pretty darn close. Your credit score is in the 500s. Yes. Oi, oi, oi. We're not looking at flights. She has no money. We're not looking at flights. There you went. Well, I'm going to Cancun in April. It's for a friend's... You're legitimately just sucking everything out of me right now. It's for a friend's wedding. Congratulations to them. I don't give a fuck. Who do they think they are having a destination wedding and feeling entitled to have everyone have to go there? No, she doesn't. We don't have to. Oh, she said. That's great.
43:09Oh, that's wonderful. We're not going anymore. Oh, that's so exciting. No, we already said. Guys, that's so good. Huh? We already took off and everything. Ring, ring. Hi, bestie. I'm borderline going to live under a bridge in like two seconds. I'm not going to come to Cancun. Okay. Ring, ring. Hi, coworker. I'm. Especially because you went and you did sense this statement just a few days ago. Went, got a Red Bull, the gas station, interest charge. So, yes, you are still spending on it. This is ridiculous. You have a little bit of room to spend on here. You're just like, we better go swipe. I got to swipe.
43:47I'm not going to live if I can't swipe. I got to swipe. I'm a swiper. I didn't have that much in my bank, so I had to use this. To get a Red Bull. Yeah, because that's a necessity to live. What are we talking about? What are we doing? What are you talking about? If you were making your rent or like a pet emergency because they ate something that was making them choke. Like, I get it. That's different. You're getting a Red Bull. She gets Red Bulls all the time. Can you afford them? And she can afford them. Great. Guess what? I eat out a lot. I'm a fat. I can afford it. It's in my budget. I have a six-month emergency fund.
44:22I've contributed minimum 20 % to retirement. I can afford it. You have maxed out credit cards. You're spending double what you make. You do not. I don't even know if you have. Your retirement's basically nothing for your age. You have no fully funded emergency fund. No, you cannot afford it. Okay. Fine. You can be an adult. What is this? Toyota. So this is a car. Yes. What is this? I have two. It's a Corolla. Yes. Two? Yeah, because I got one for my boyfriend. He needed a car. He needed a car. He could have got his own car. He's your boyfriend, not your husband. His credit is bad. So is yours.
45:00Yeah. Well, obviously, it wasn't that bad whenever I got it. What do you think? You know, you're seeing because there's no interest right up front that this is good. You know, with this lease, they're baking in fees. They're breaking in whatever they want in order to make any kind of money on this. and they are baking it into your thing and then they're extending it out with these minimum payments to make it feel like it's somewhat appetizing and then at the end you still owe and when did you get this when did you get this when did you get this yeah when did you get this the corolla in february great so used car market prices were higher so really in reality your buy out at the end because they bake that in at the beginning what the car is going to be worth if you put a certain amount of miles on it if you were to buy out which it sounds like you're not going to anyway but if you were to buy out guess what it would be more expensive than the car would likely be worth at that point anyway because year over year used car prices have gone down 10 but again that's plummeting down and you're buying on the way down not buying leasing so who knows what value and what was baked in with this but all i know is you spend 544 dollars of money you don't have oh no that's not my payment that's my boyfriend's payment Your boyfriend's payment.
46:10Does he pay it? Yes, he does. I drive that car. He pays for it. Okay. And then I. What are you guys? He uses the truck, which is the original one that I got. He uses the truck and pay and I pay for that one. So we just switch. And you just want to keep leasing and leasing and leasing and never own an asset in your life. No, this is the first time I've leased. Thank you very much. You're welcome. But you said you were going to get a lease again. No, I didn't. So you're going to buy a car through that. Yes. Okay. And that's why they're saying. With a 500 something credit score and no money. It's going to be better in six months.
46:46How? Because I'm going to make it better. Oh, yeah. That's a great exercise. What? That's not how the things work. You have maxed out credit cards and we just pulled up your statement just a couple days ago. You just brought the balance back up even though it started to make a little bit of progress via your minimum payments. Because you're like, I need some webbles. I don't sound like that. but that doesn't get our credit score up okay wanting wanting something in six months is not a path to success okay it's the actions and the actions you're doing are they will help me out to get a toyota because i've given them listen because i've given them people to buy cars there as well my my mom my dad my brother everybody's gone there i mean they don't have those cars anymore they got you know my mom got a mercedes and they will help you they will help you complete their sale which will get you a car but at a pretty good price how would you even know my if my payments are lower i'm happy
47:55i heard you have a spray bottle you should use that on you right now you care about the least important thing okay it's not the payment why because the way they make your payment look better is by stretching it out to like an eight-year loan what you need to i'm not doing an eight-year you don't know you would do whatever it takes to get the payment in your area yes you would i know that again this is not talking uh bad about you this is i know people like you i talk to people my car is different i talk to people like you every single day i know what you will do to get this payment when you're in the room because that's what they will pitch you fine what's the longest you would do what's the longest you would do the longest i've ever done ever done i don't care what you've ever done car prices regular right now five okay well that's still you shouldn't do more than three i can't make that kind of payment oh good that means you can't afford it so then i get a cheaper car there you go ten thousand dollars cap it buying in cash by saving up being an adult.
48:58Are you kidding me? I'm not getting a used car. Oh my gosh. Okay. Whoa. I am. It is rare that I do not talk to someone from the audience since your cousin is in the audience. This is really rare. The amount of delusion in this world and entitlement you have. Remember when I called you a spoiled brat? Yes. I'm not going to get a used car. You're a spoiled brat. No cars break. used cars break cars break we get an educated purchase we take it to a mechanic that we trust oh my what the is there to do here like with that mindset there's like there's no hope there's no hope what what you're not willing to get something that's not a used car what's a median new car How am I supposed to know that it's a good car?
49:57How are you supposed to know a new car is good? You can get new cars. Because I send it over to, you know, Toyota and they do whatever they need to do with it. It's free. Congratulations. Congratulations. Do that with the used car. But then I have to pay out of pocket for it. Dude, if you literally can save, if you get a$10 ,000 car versus a$35 ,000 new car,$40 ,000 new car, you're probably going to get like a$50 ,000 new car because you're going to need to have all the bells and whistles. Oh, I know people like you. listen what you just said you're a spoiled brat yes you will that no you can't afford what you'd get anyway so regardless if you can save 25 000 15 000 by paying 500 hours to get a car checked out i think what what's the bigger number 15 000 or 500 okay i know what the answer is 15 000 what pay the 500 what what maybe i didn't listen i'm sorry i zoned out for a second Sorry.
50:53If you can save$15 ,000 by getting your$10 ,000 car checked out for$500, what's a bigger number? $15 ,000 or$500? Oh, okay. Now I see what you're saying. So why the f*** would you not do it? Because I don't have that like in the moment. We're talking six months from now. I think we can prepare$500 in six months. you think you can what you think i can save 10 000 in six months even if we leverage it you can do three years 20 down no more than what is the money guy 18 of your income we could do that well with your hours cut the income that's gonna be hard again the thing you care about with car payments is the last thing to care about okay listen the minimum payment is important but But that's all you're looking at.
51:51And taking it out of context, that is not the most important thing. The interest rate, the term length, the value of the car versus the real value of the car. Because you're likely going to – they're going to sell you a car that's more expensive than it's actually worth. They will. Congratulations. It's their job. You're not some special extra angel customer that gets nothing that no other customer has ever gotten in the history of the world. You're not that unique. I'm sorry to tell you. None of us are. Well, I will say on the leases, I didn't really pay attention to... 8 % on minimum payment.
52:24I think I said 18, sorry. Oh. For the rule, 23, 8, 20 % down three-year length of the car loan at 8 % of your gross income max. You're going to write this down, right? Yes. Okay. Because I don't remember. Either way, the minimum payment matters, yes, once we calculate the interest. if you're making sure you're getting a good deal on the car and the term length is reasonable. Then the minimum monthly payment matters. When people like you only look at the minimum monthly payment, they will get whatever term they need to extend to in order to make the minimum monthly payment, regardless of the interest rate or the value of the car, fit within their budget and make it feel affordable.
53:03So it's a dangerous perspective the way you're looking at cars. I need to be real. The way you're doing this right now is you literally retiring with unable to pay your rent. And then you're going to take over a mortgage that you can't afford because they probably have a 30-year fixed rate mortgage. And hopefully they live that entire 30 years and maybe they pay it off. But if they don't and it's in a trust where it goes to you, you're still going to have to pay it. And in no context here are you able to pay for anything at all. Whatever. For f***'s sake. Listen, how much longer is left on this?
53:41On the Corolla? I don't know. I think it's three. No, I think it was three years from February. I don't know. Does it say on there? I think it says it on there. 29 months remaining. Great. So we're basically baked in. On that one, yeah. Buying it out when it makes sense. Okay. So the Tacoma? Mm-hmm. The old one? Yes. Okay, now he pays the lease you said. So he gives you that money? Yes. So he gives you the 544? Right, so that's not mine. Well, no. You know what happens? He leaves you or you leave him or he dies or he loses a job and then you have to pay for it. Okay, let me just explain something to you.
54:33I had an ex-boyfriend and I did the same thing for him. Yeah. And he paid it off. Okay, sounds like maybe he had a little bit of integrity. What if this guy, you guys have a messy breakup? again what if he dies he would never do that he would never die okay i didn't say he would never die oh my god he would never not pay it yes is in this what you say listen listen that the world is not roses and flower fields this is not what it is you say that you guys have a loving relationship right now you the world is unpredictable you had a good experience with an ex and i am very happy for that and also i can't believe that this is the second time that's happened you cannot be you cannot allow yourself to get into this risk you do not understand the risk of this you do not understand the risk and so many people have gotten in situations where they take loans off with the family members for exes for things like that and then they get in a position because the other person doesn't pay it for whatever reason yeah and listen if he doesn't have any money because he loses his job he doesn't have any money to give you regardless if he wants to so like this you don't understand the risk behind this is dumb it's dumb as okay no i really understand you like i said when you explain it to me that way then i i get why you're so angry it's not angry i'm scared for you terrified for you it's because you just don't realize how bad this is and i'm it's it's it's just crazy and just the situation you're in i know where it ends up we've had people on the show in their 60s and see where this ends up multiple rounds of bankruptcy and nothing to their name.
56:08Okay, so the Tacoma, this has a loan on it. Not a lease? It's a lease. So that's bad? Did she not just tell me that the other one was her first lease? No, no. Okay, I feel like you don't listen very well. Pet emergencies can hit hard and fast. One minute they're fine, and the next you could be facing a mountain of vet bills. That's where Spot Pet Insurance comes in. With plans that have comprehensive coverage for accidents, illnesses, hereditary conditions, and even behavioral issues, Spot ensures your furry friend gets the best care without breaking the bank. They offer customizable plans so you can pick the coverage that suits your pet's needs and your budget.
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57:35Well, I don't know. I mean, we had that statement in front of me, so I don't know. Who knows? This is a messy conversation regardless. Well, that was my first original lease. Seven months left. What happens at the end? We're going to get a new one. With our wonderful 500 credit scores. It's going to be higher. Hope is not a path to success. But I'm willing to work hard. Look, I gave up the Red Bull. No, you didn't. Yes, I told you. I said I promise I will have coffee. Oh, so you saying that is you giving it up? Yes. Okay, so no actual actions. Just you saying you'll give it up. I mean, we just talked about this right now.
58:19Come on. We just talked today about me not having Red Bulls. I haven't given you the chance. Well, I know. You said I gave it up. That would indicate to me that you had given it up. Well, okay. You're saying you gave it up now. Just now. Okay. Yes. Well, let me give you a little bit of context. Walk you through this. Again, we have a follow-up channel. I mentioned that we do follow-ups with people. A lot of people have told me a lot of out of the four to five we recorded these a week and released three. I've been told a lot of things that people are going to do. That means nothing to me. Okay.
58:56Doesn't do it. Prove me wrong. Because that means that you would be living a better life. Please do. Please do. Because that would mean you'd be living a better life. And I would much rather. Of course, I want to be wrong on that. But just based on so many experiences on the show, it's just like, okay, you might do that for a month. Then a lot of people, they just fall into their old ways because they don't have the discipline required. They're not able to see that end goal, the light through the tunnel. They're just not able to. They just get stuck in it. Okay. Seven months remaining on this.
59:26Yep. then we're in whatever situation credit one credit one is an indication of you essentially being in like the worst finances possible because the only people who take these out are the ones they get them in the mail and you just allow yourself to take it out and you have multiple credit ones it's as bad as it gets there's all these fees on a monthly basis what you tell me what I don't want to say it What? What is it? Nothing. What am I reacting to? What am I reacting to? I haven't been making payments. What are you? It wasn't just the first card. Okay, but this just started three months ago.
1:00:13Because I couldn't afford it. Three months and no payments? Couldn't afford it? Are you kidding me right now? That's going to piss me off. That is going to piss me off. That, again, spoiled brat. You spent$500 going out to eat. You spent$135 getting Red Bulls. Okay? Unknown shopping, like usually Amazon,$146 couldn't afford it. You chose not to afford it. Okay. You put your shit that you wanted over it. And then you took money from your boyfriend and had your parents get a house for you. You couldn't afford it. I did not have to do it. You couldn't afford it. That's bulls**t. You chose not to.
1:00:51And that actually makes me angry. this is what angry looks like because that's that's you being a spoiled little brat who's not willing to sacrifice anything not able to afford this is money you borrowed that you owe and listen if you're against credit cards and you're just morally like okay i shouldn't have to pay it that's a different conversation you not being able to afford it absolutely not you chose to go eat out and just be a spoiled brat instead of making the payments that you owed so don't ever say that again. Don't ever try to be I couldn't afford it victim. You're not a victim. You're a victim of your own lack of discipline.
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1:02:03And acknowledge that you could pay this if you chose to. Okay. Is that you acknowledging that you could have paid this if you chose to? Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha. This is great. Ha, ha, ha. Yes. Lovely. Our life is ruined. That's amazing. My life is ruined. Now that you're telling me all this. Do you accept that? Okay. Yeah. Oh, my. I look those resources will be great for me. The ones we give you? Yes. Right. Yes. But their education. It's still the actions you put into it afterwards that matter. I'm determined. I really am. No, no. Look, like I'm determined to go to school. Like I'm determined to, you know, become a pharmacy tech.
1:02:51I didn't think I was going to do it, but I was determined to do it. And I did it. That's one thing that you cannot take from me. Why would I? You did it. Okay. So I have no objective. I'm telling you I'm determined to get this. When have you become determined to figure this out? Well, today, because you're yelling at me. So this is what's made the difference. You didn't realize this yesterday. I did. but okay then why haven't you done anything to change this before because i just ended up just not caring and what is different now um you kind of scared me okay so yeah because i need to have money to retire oh yeah like nobody's gonna be there to help me then so mommy and daddy and i want to take care of them eventually but with this i can't because they're getting older i'm not saying they're old now but you know eventually and with medical issues you never know what can happen so i need to give them back what they've given me they're great parents um they sound like great people but they might be enabling you okay but it sounds like they have a great heart oh my My, the balance is$1 ,521.04.
1:04:17This is about to go into collections, and you think that your credit score is going to increase? I don't know what the you're on about. And the credit limit of the$1 ,521 balance, the credit limit is$1 ,150.
1:04:33The normal minimum payment is like$116, but you owe $439 because you don't know how to be responsible and make payments and cut back on anything. Wonderful. Late fees, annual fees, interests, all the good stuff. All the classics. Alright, let's go on to the next credit. One. Credit one. Number two. Come on down to$1 ,314.18. and the credit limit on this is$950 wonderful $150 minimum fee payment but guess what what we owe is$434 because again we don't know how to cut back on our spending money we don't have wonderful credit one oh credit one number three
1:05:30yeah they told me you would get on my ass Who they? That one. And other. We'll bring your cousin into the... Because you threw some things for Wayne saying, she does this, and she knows the show. We'll bring her into the post show. You can be on camera or off camera. It's up to you. We'll give you a mic to talk. And you can explain how you see the situation, how your family sees the situation, and defend the things that Miss Amanda has thrown towards you. So we owe$2 ,022 on this and 74 cents. With a credit limit of 1 ,550, what are we doing? So to be clear, I mean, any kind of car loan you get with this is going to be like a 25%, 30 % loan eight years because these are going to go into collections and your credit score is only going to go down.
1:06:19You owe 477, shocker. But the normal minimum of the payment looks like about 110.
1:06:30fees interest classic and it continues an hour and seven minutes into this my bladder is still full i'm sorry ufcu credit card 423 and 59 cents with interest charged 5.12 cents in fees oh my this fee is a late thing i'll send ten dollar minimum fee payment and the fee is ten dollars and 91 cents all right what was the fee what was the fee wait what was the fee how much was it ten dollars and 91 cents available credit of 76 dollars what was the fee ma 'am something tells me it's a late payment so there was one late payment um and knowing you that one means there was two
1:07:28um i mean maybe yeah but the reason again is because of the notifications i went to them though and i asked them you know how can i resolve this and they said that there was nothing about the notifications that they are able to do so i set up a notification on my phone i don't know how to do that on there that's okay well i okay or maybe like just ask them or download the app well i have the app then auto pay should be there go to the website it's always it's there are you sure the usd one has every they all why do they not have notifications credit one has stupid notifications notifications of what that a payment is due yes i probably do it's probably in their system somewhere just turn on the minute it's ten dollars i know course careers i love you guys you guys need to just come out with a course a certification of how to not be a dumb on credit cards because i want to gift that to you okay but you don't need any other certification because you're going to be going to school and getting a great career a little nervous of how you're going to be paying for oh my what's it called?
1:08:41loans? how I'm going to be paying that? how are you going to do anything honestly oh it was a late fee there it is there was a second page we knew it okay wait it wasn't even a f***ing joke you've had two this year
1:09:00you're a meme you're a debt meme which sucks because that's actually bad for you sorry it's like don't be sorry to me this is your life no no offense i'm gonna walk away from here and i'm gonna give you the resources we're gonna ask and answer any questions you ever give us and i'm gonna you know hope you do well and hopefully talk to you again but i'm gonna walk away to a life that has been budgeted. You leave here and you have to take care of this mess. You got yourself into this. Don't be sorry to me. This isn't about me. Give the fuck about me. This is your life. And you cannot, you cannot for a single second allow for someone else to have more of a care of an impact for a financial situation of your life than yourself.
1:09:44You're right. We already have$5 ,000 in student loans. Yeah. Oh, and an additional$3 ,000? Is there more? 10. for what your undergrad no i uh tried to go to school and i ended up not finishing but i had um told your people about that that i had already had a ten thousand dollar loan that i was paying on great yeah wonderful happy for the people you talked to it was during covid and i got super busy in pharmacy so I wasn't able to really dedicate full-time hours to school I see nine thousand dollars oh okay I'm sorry yes nine thousand you're making payments yes there's 69 okay so you are on like income based yes payment okay yeah it's a low you're gonna get deferred once you get started, once you start school, of course.
1:10:51Again, they'll be on pause. I can't even like think about these student loans right now with just the rest of your thing. And then, what is this? It could be sent to a collections agency from charter. Oh, that's medical. That was a... Charter Communications? I think somebody else took over probably for the loan. Charter Communications is not medical. No? Is it? Wait. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Well, let me see. Like, isn't that the person that takes over? One second. Like, when they pay out? One second. Yes. So, what got me confused is because it said that this was the original creditor, which wouldn't have made sense, which made me think of charter.
1:11:36So, this was medical debt that went into collections then? Yes. Yeah. I believe that was when. I would say that's the original creditor. It's obviously not. Yeah. had gone to the hospital that's why why did you not pay it i couldn't tell you i was young and i was young i was in my 20s early 20s i probably was 20 and i this would not be on your collections anymore at that point it would not be on your credit what happened was because i heard that if you call or you reactivated them and i think that's what happened because i was trying to call or talk to them i don't know i can't remember this has been four years so it still takes multiple years to fall off.
1:12:18This one, five years, five months. What's 1 ,200? What did you lose here? Well, that one's also for medical. Did you have a lot going on or something? I had gotten diagnosed with diabetes, and so I was in ICU. Which one, one or two? Two. Okay, have you made progress? Oh, yeah. Good. Proud of you for that. Thank you. Very good. Keep that up. and then a thousand one hundred twenty four that's been open only one year what's this oh emergency medical so this is more medical oh yeah do you not pay any medical bill i don't why um i just kind of put it to the side well it is still hurting your credit now it's not accruing like any interest or anything but this is again like you are someone that from our conversation wants to take advantage of credit scores to get a car loan.
1:13:12That's where this matters. Okay. Oh, is that it? Is that all the debt? Well, I can't think right now. You just put a lot on me right now. Can I look at my phone real quick? Yes. Okay, so Apple, Credit One, UFC, Capital One, Bank of America, credit card you did person I'm interviewing for the job opening I apologize that I'm sending you an email saying that I need 15 minutes spectrum if you're seeing this you probably are um I think that's $532 in our checking account $116 is what started oh my Apple bill Red Bull Red Bull Red Bull Red Bull Apple bill meta payout$300 Red Bull Red Bull Red Bull Red Bull apple bill after pay great red bull ancestry.com that's really important to pay for and we literally can't pay our bills red bull red bull red bull red bull red bull meta pay out$250 who knows where the that went red bull more ancestry great wonderful chick-fil-a red bull red bull red bull red bull red bull red bull at least it's the zero calorie for your diabetes and zero sugar um meta pay uh 61 dollars red bull red bull i just like i i no offense i'm just i'm i'm kind of i'm kind of done but red bull red bull amazon netflix red bull red bull red bull meta payout 10 bucks amazon red bull red bull red bull red bull after pay red bull mcdonald's red bull red bull red bull red bull great red bull red bull red bull dutch bros dutch bros dutch bros looks like we decided to be a coffee person that day red bull red bull coffee great red bull mexican restaurant dairy queen change it up then we're back red bull hbo max is one of the better subscription services they actually have good things on there unlike most but also you can't afford life i got it for vampire red bull red bull cool uh maybe don't be a financial vampire that doesn't even make sense red bull red bull might have payout 300 oh you pay for credit karma great snap finance hold on credit karma I don't pay for that.
1:15:28I put that in savings. They have a savings? I did not know that. Snap Finance? What's that? That's kind of like afterpay. Stop yourself. More Snap Finance. More Snap. Red Bull. Stop it. $15 in cash up. Send out cash up. TikTok shop. Unless you're kidding me. Come on. From your Venmo. TikTok shop you really need. Whatever you got. Come on. eight bucks in this checking account one dollars in the savings account nothing's happening here there's a monthly maintenance fee because you don't have enough money in there so I'm just losing money great Robin Hood seven dollars thrilling 401k what five thousand dollars so dramatically behind for your age that's where I'd want you to be in like early mid twenties so where am I supposed to be uh you where would i want to at least see if i'm guessing i mean a lot of it depends on income but i'd want to see you at least closer to like 10 times that what if you max out your roth ira every year from your early 20s that wouldn't be hard taking account compound growth i mean i just did not know not the bitch and everyone buys you everything anyway so it's not like you really have any concerns in your life
1:16:53okay I'm sorry I'm sorry that I've just kind of given up it's just there's only so much emotional energy you can give into a situation for someone that tell me about it I'm tired at this point okay well unfortunately you really don't have that option just to let you know so we're going to be making all the minimum payments because we need to improve our credit to get this car loan and the scar loan is probably going to fuck you anyway because you're going to do it in a bad way, but whatever. You can also email us as you're going through that process and we can at least help, but that's if you actually decide to do that.
1:17:29Your cousin will keep us updated though.
1:17:35Minimum monthly payments on our debts. Wonderful. $1 ,576.55. How much do you give your parents for rent? $1 ,400. Okay. Does your boyfriend cover any of that? Yes. How much do you give? for mortgage 300 utilities your portion wait that's where the 400 is I'm sorry 400 what because it's 1400 I say for mortgage and utilities how much do you give for mortgage and utilities yeah so 700 total internet that's including okay gasp room from drive drive how much in a month 60 i doubt it what i have a corolla i don't know i know it's just it's just your lack of knowing 60 sure okay put 70 car insurance um 215 tp fund anything else you need to survive 100 bucks groceries you're going to contribute 250 to the household.
1:18:44He can contribute the rest. That's what you're contributing. You're only getting groceries. You're doing meal prepping. Follow the meal prep that we have in our budgeting program. Address it to your needs. Co-pays. Do you have anything medical on a monthly basis?
1:18:56No, I get it for free. Okay. Through my job. Subscription. Do you have a pet? I don't pay for anything. Okay. That's my parents' pet, pretty much. Great. I don't even know what your income's about to be and then you're going to school anyway, so it's just like... um okay all i know is you need two thousand nine hundred eleven dollars and fifty five cents to live on a minimum basis obviously you're making that now but you're cutting your hours in half you're gonna bring bring it in like what max two thousand dollars so student loans are gonna be subsidizing this then you're gonna get a car loan somehow with saving money for a down payment somehow so i don't do down payment of course you don't i'm sorry i'm sorry this is you must be super exhausted from this like i believe you this is the first time that i can remember it's probably happened again we just refilled so much but first time that i remember it's just like i don't even want to like give a thing like what i think is just like it's just kind of done it's kind of done you already have your plan set and you're even considering cutting your hours even further if it's too much so it's just like i i don't i have no hope i have a feeling this is gonna end in bankruptcy and well i'll prove you wrong please do but i mean what's your plan here you're already 900 hours in the hole no my plan is to definitely i because look like you're saying i can't even i feel like definitely i can't live off of the shorter hours right um that's why i'm saying i'm going to do them for now no the shorter hours so you're still under 900 hours okay go on and then next month hopefully if i can't you know i can't be 40 hours but hopefully i can be more and do uber more that's what i plan on doing uber i'm sorry guys I know that when you guys are just out there, you know, it looks like it's like, oh, how could they do this?
1:21:06How could they, how couldn't they talk about this? How couldn't they do the budget and stuff like that? I get that. I get that. It's here. You're sitting down having a genuine conversation with real emotions, with real actual going on. And I don't think I can go further than this in this conversation. I think this is, I think I've hit my peak. I do apologize for that. I apologize to you guys, but I think, I think that's it. Your hammer for an answer is easily zero or 10. we're going to do the post show but I'm going to bring in my producers to mostly do the talking usually they know more drama because you talked to them before you know the things you know I like to kind of whatever so we'll continue the conversations bringing in the producers in the post show you guys can join the channel membership there and get access to that and a lot of other shows that we do there and make sure you guys check out all the resources like the budgeting class and investing class which are bundled at a lower price so yeah uh okay today on the financial audit post show does he know about all the debt he doesn't know about the online gambling how much you spending online gambling i just started doing it again okay in what world can you do i was like gambling what are you gambling what are you gambling what is this gambling what does it look like what is it what's the thing it's like slot machine online I didn't think this conversation could get more insane Well hey hopefully you get more viewers To watch the financial audit post show Click the join button below
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