The Dumbest Couple I’ve Ever Met | Financial Audit

16 Sep 2024 · 1 h 24 min

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Episode Title

The Dumbest Couple I’ve Ever Met | Financial Audit

Podcast Hosts

  • Caleb Hammer: Personal finance expert
  • Guests: Connor (22) and Brooke (23), a couple from Edmond, Oklahoma

Episode Overview In this episode, Caleb Hammer conducts a financial audit of Connor and Brooke, who share their struggles with budgeting, income, and spending habits. The discussion highlights their financial mismanagement and the dangers of impulsive spending without a safety net.

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Key Points

Guests' Background

  • Connor: Works as a dishwasher making $14/hour, with fluctuating hours due to a restaurant remodel.
  • Brooke: Works at a grocery store deli earning $13/hour and regularly works 35 to 40 hours a week.
  • They have been together for 2 years and are engaged, planning a wedding in 2026.

Financial Situation

  • Monthly Income:
  • Connor: Approximately $1,500/month (including tips)
  • Brooke: Approximately $750-$800 bi-weekly.
  • Combined Income: Roughly $3,500/month.
  • Average monthly expenses: $2,807.36 needed to survive.

Budgeting Issues

  • They do not have a clear budget and often rely on "swipe" spending.
  • Past attempts at budgeting (e.g., using Rocket Money) were unsuccessful.
  • Significant cash withdrawals, often leading to spending more than they earn.

Spending Habits

  • Frequent impulse purchases, including:
  • Dog expenses
  • DoorDash and eating out frequently
  • Subscriptions (e.g., Spotify, YouTube Premium)
  • Discussion about their dogs and associated costs, indicating poor prioritization of finances.

Debts and Collections

  • They have minimal savings and no emergency fund.
  • Incurred debts include:
  • A financed dog, with the total owed being approximately $3,300.
  • Collections due to missed payments, including a $4,000 fraud debt from a "sugar daddy" scam.
  • No significant credit history; one of the guests has a credit score reported as low as 469.

Key Insights and Recommendations

  1. Budget Creation: They need to adopt a concrete budgeting strategy to track and control spending effectively.
  2. Emergency Fund: Establishing an emergency fund is critical, especially with pets and car expenses.
  3. Financial Literacy: Engaging in financial education classes to improve money management skills.
  4. Debt Management: Prioritize paying off debts, starting with manageable payment plans (e.g., $50/month for the fraud debt).
  5. Lifestyle Adjustments: Cutting down on discretionary spending, including eating out and subscriptions, to redirect funds toward savings and debt repayment.

Discussion on Relationships

  • Caleb discusses the emotional impact of financial decision-making on relationships. He highlights the importance of open communication regarding finances in an engaged couple’s relationship.

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Conclusion The episode provides a candid look into the financial struggles of a young couple, revealing the consequences of poor financial habits and the importance of budgeting and emergency funds. Caleb Hammer offers constructive advice to help them take control of their financial future and avoid further pitfalls.

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Additional Resources

  • Financial Education Tools: Links provided for budgeting programs, investment classes, and financial score assessments.
  • Sponsorships: Mention of sponsors like Fabric for life insurance and Moomoo for stock trading.

Post Show Highlights

  • A humorous discussion about an OnlyFans transaction, highlighting the need for transparency in relationships.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube.

0:30Hi, my name is Connor. I'm 22 years old. Hi, my name is Brooke. I'm 23 years old. We're based out of Edmond, Oklahoma. And this is Financial Audit. Welcome down, guys. Thanks for coming on. Okay, so we'll start with you, Connor. What do you do for a living? I work in a restaurant, mainly back of house, but I... Dishwasher at the moment. Dishwasher. What are you making dishwasher? 14. 14 we had someone who's a dishwasher on just a couple days ago making 19 yeah are you kidding okay so 14 hours an hour how many hours a week uh 25 to 30 that's your new schedule new schedule you're working no hours uh explain oh okay all right yeah let's sure so originally when i got put on I was dishwasher and they had me train three days, threw me in one full week of working.

1:34Three days of training to wash dishes? Yeah. It's weird. And then once after that first full week, they did a remodel. So they were shut down for three weeks after. Okay. So in that time, I was door dashing because I didn't want to like no money. I got rent to pay. I got bills to pay. I can't make no money. So I'm door dashing. well I go back yeah I go back to normal hours and they come up to me and they're like hey so we have a bar now do you want to be a bartender I'm like yeah bartender and back of house they're like yeah we can do that I'm like okay cool so they they're starting to train me in the front of house right now but why no hours basically he has a certain amount of hours in the front of house and then a certain amount of hours in the back of house.

2:23He makes a full 40 hours. Oh, so what are you making in the front? What are you making in the front? In the front right now, I'm making about$7.25 an hour. Tips? Yes, all of this is plus tip. Yeah, all plus tip. Even when he's dishwasher, it's plus tip. What do you bring in on a weekly average? About$5.56. Not plus tips. Plus tips. What, is that a week? Bi-weekly. I'm surviving off of$1 ,000. Okay, that doesn't... First of all, that doesn't even line up with your hours and pay. $550. $550. Roughly, yeah. No, I think you're closer to six or seven. How do you not know? Six or seven? Yeah, you're closer to human.

3:05This is supposed to be the easy question. You make more than me. Oh, right. Oh, if that's the case, I don't know. How long have you guys been together? Two years. Two years. Okay. Are you guys even surviving? At the moment, barely. We're in... Yeah, no s***. $550. every other week and then what is your job i work in a deli at a local grocery store okay i make 13 an hour how many hours uh 35 to 40 okay what are you making bi-weekly net with a full check about 750 800 a paycheck oh a paycheck thank you okay okay let me consult your actual statements because my last check was uh 666 because i'm like was sick a couple days yeah my last check was like connor payroll 364 that's all that came in but but but tip how would we calculate tip do you deposit the cash it's not cash tip it's on the it's added so is that because oh oh connor cash deposit as well 769 does that yeah they give him a physical check.

4:17Jinx. Okay. And then you brought in 291 from DoorDash. We're not going to count that though because that's what normally you don't do that as much, right? Not as much. It's rare now, but like when he wasn't working for those three weeks, it was like every day he'd go in DoorDash. Yeah. I'm going to say you make $1 ,500 a month. I mean, it should be that. Should be net, right? Should be. Should be. Okay. And then you I saw$2 ,000 come in. Wait, but you said he's making more. He makes more per hour. He makes 14 an hour. But net he makes less. But net, I guess he makes less. I don't understand how that works.

4:58Because it shouldn't be. You guys don't even know. So you don't budget, do you? No, not really. Because you don't even know what the start of a budget. You would have a number. Well, we did try Rocket Money. We downloaded Rocket Money for a little while. How's that gone? terrible okay obviously just like every guest who comes on the show go through the budgeting class guys go through it together please it'll teach you how to start manage and go through a budget take all the quizzes go through the whole thing it's worth it i will say before this job that i'm working now me and her were both working at the same place right and kinky all right we were both working at the grocery store that I work at we were both in the deli it's a chain specific to Oklahoma it's like H-E-B of Oklahoma alright guys so obviously we have just no idea what's going on with just even our money coming in so let me ask you what the f*** is going on we try to save money and every time we do she pulls it out and always has an excuse So, okay.

6:12Are we trying to save money then? So how much is saved up and then how much is pulled out? We will probably put in 50 to 100 from each check. And then, I don't know. By next check, it's gone. Why? What's the excuse? The dogs need more treats. They have torn up their toys, so they need new toys. Our dogs have a vendetta. against any and every kid. Give him a stick. He doesn't want wood shavings all over the apartment. That's not unfair. Okay. Well, I just don't... I think... I get that. They do need... First of all, if you can't afford pets, shouldn't have pets. Like, let's be clear. For anyone looking out there to get pets, it is a responsibility.

7:03And they need the stimulation of toys. The treat thing... Give them a piece of kibble, okay? for as a reward yeah like you can do that that's okay yeah obviously treats sure but that's a splurge but they do need toys for stimulation and things but if you can't afford it then you shouldn't have pets if you're taking away from savings you spend a little effort putting savings together and just even know like when you're doing this you just take it out or is this like against he gets an alert on his phone whenever i pull it yeah it sends an alert to both of our and then what happens are there conversations around it or what happens in that situation I ask her about it.

7:39I'm like, hey, what was this for? And she tells me like, oh, it was for DoorDash or it was for Boba or it was for, hey, our dog needed. OK, those two first things are. And what you said was wrong then. Yeah. It starts off as I'm getting stuff for the dogs. And then it's like, oh, somehow you find yourself in Boba. Yeah, there's a Boba shop. What are we doing? Are you got. There's a Boba shop. How long have you guys been married? We're not technically married yet. We're engaged. Oh, when did you guys get engaged? January. January. Okay, and when are you guys getting married? 2026. Of July. But you guys are saving...

8:18That's long. You guys are saving together? It's long so we can save up for the wedding. Yeah. How are you paying for the wedding? Well, the venue we looked at, they have like a payment plan we can do. it's only I say it's only it's$3 ,000 for the venue and we also get a discount for having military family so it's$2 ,800 yeah I know I was like okay were you guys paying this? no we haven't put any money towards that yet because we have to get the$500 deposit first and with his work being iffy lately we haven't been able to put the 500 aside. But then everything else with the wedding... Work being iffy.

9:10You guys aren't managing money. You'd be able to put the 500 aside, but you'd take it out for boba and dog treats. She's smiling about it. Yeah, it's a cope smile. It's a nervous habit. Yeah. Like your guys' goals together as an engaged couple looking into marriage. I assume... Do you guys have aligned goals financially? Yeah. Do you even know what they are? I have an emergency fund Fully funded Apparently go to tapioca Get a car Yeah, get me a car Get her a car And the wedding You guys just have one car right now? We have one car right now Okay And the wedding And then after that I was hoping in 10 years time Get a house Depending on the market But that's like 10 years time And I don't think we're talking house When we're pulling All of our savings out literally just the f*** around.

10:03Now we're finding out. How do you guys not have dramatic conversations around the savings being pulled out? How is this not a tear in the relationship? I would be struggling if we set out a goal and that goal was to save money for the 500 down or whatever on the wedding or, you know, for the fully funded emergency fund, whatever it be, and we're setting that money aside together into a savings account and then one of us pulls it out going against the goal that we decided that would be a huge tear for me i don't know to be honest i don't know why it's not a tear you guys not give a the goal must not be that important then there's no emotional attachment to it we're having no emotional impact when one is taking us away from it i guess not right now just because it hasn't like hasn't set in as to how big you don't have an emergency fund What happens if the one car breaks?

11:01How is the car? Good, actually. It's pretty good. It's a 2017 Hyundai Elantra. Miles? 204 ,000. Okay. It's many miles. Yeah. I had it checked out before I bought it. The guy said it was doing pretty good. When was that? February of this year. You got it in February. I got it for... How many miles did you put on that thing on a monthly basis-ish? ish like you is this i get driven a lot yeah it's like our main source of transportation well driven a lot is to and from work for you to and from work for me and then we just our home bodies the rest of the time sometimes door dashing oh yeah that's hard yeah and then you're blowing the emergency fund on is it a dog you said two two dogs when did you get the dogs So mine I got in August of last year.

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14:19You won't regret it. It's one of the most valuable investments you can make to support your family in case the unexpected happens. That's meetfabric.com slash Caleb. Thanks to Fabric for sponsoring this episode. Now, let's get back to it. Surgery? No. He financed his dog. When? April. April? This year? Yeah. You just got it? Why'd you guys get a second dog right now? Because at the time we were making enough money to where I could comfortably. This was before he switched jobs. Yeah, before I switched jobs. I could comfortably pay off all my bills, have a little money left over for BS spending and then do whatever, you know?

15:01So he also wanted a dog because he was getting jealous that my dog loved me. like she would cuddle with me, lay with me, love on me, and then attack him. So jealousy debt? Jealousy debt. Like she saw him as a just giant play. Yeah. Yeah, but trusting you, I guess, for that. Yeah. So then we live like down the street from a mall, and in said mall is a pet shop. And he went in. It was originally just a, we're going to look at the dogs. A jealousy loan? So what kind of dog did you get? A purebred Siberian Husky. And how much? $2 ,800. And how'd you pay for it? I got my mother-in-law to get a loan for me.

15:53Mother-in-law? Mother? Wait. My step-in-law? Her step-in-law. There is no mother-in-law, to be clear. Not yet. Not yet. Yeah. I just call her my mother. Really? So your girlfriend, your fiance's mom, you called up and asked for a loan from? Yes. Your fiance's mom? Well, technically, I called her and asked her. For him? That's a weird thing. My stepmom has said it is very hard for her to say no to me when it comes to stuff like that. So we don't ask her for a lot. but he fell in love with this dog. I think you just did. She also said it was a premature wedding present. So she's not going to guess anything for the actual That's how she justified it.

16:42But I am paying her back. He pays her for the payment. Did she take out a loan? Or is it a loan through her? She took out a loan. She took out a loan for this? You had her take out an actual loan? Yes, through their So how much is owed? How much is owed? $3 ,500. $3 ,300. Oh, you still owe$3 ,300. The loan was$435 ,000. Why the dog was$2 ,800? Because she got approved for zero down, but the loan was$3 ,500, right? Yeah, but why not put back the other$700 ,000? I don't know. But why do you owe that? How much did you get? How much did I get? How much did you get? None of it. It went straight to the people we got the dog from.

17:28What the f***? It went from dog people. And you haven't asked her where the extra 700? Not yet. I have been in contact with her, calling her, trying to figure out paperwork. The loan is through the store that we bought them, bought the dog from. So they're in control and they've been super vague about it to the point where my stepmom called the actual loan company to get more information. It's to the point where they don't even have a website that she can log into to track everything. Yeah, you have to call them and ask, how much do I owe? After answering a bunch of security questions, she's given me the clearance to go through and ask, and I've asked multiple times, hey, how much is left?

18:08Hey, how much is left? Hey, can I make a payment? And then, like, they're like, this much is left, this much is left. Oh, you want me to make a payment? What's your details? Give me my payment details. Why didn't you take out a loan? I, so he tried first. Instead of taking advantage of her, and it can complicate the relationship, and we're already seeing that a little. It's complicated whether or not the strain has been there. He tried first. They wanted him to put 30 % down. He didn't have the 30%. Then you don't get a dog. No offense, but also we aren't getting a dog if you don't have a few hundred dollars.

18:45Like what happens if they get sick? Puppies eat. Literally. My puppy, my puppy, my most, my second puppy, my second dog that I had last year when she was still in her first year she had something got stuck in here few thousand dollars had to get uh surgery luckily pet insurance helped but the f*** would you do that's irresponsible just because just because her dog cuddled with her what are we doing that's such a childish and also selfish move there is a warranty for her first year and if anything happens like it's a product if any right if anything happens within her first year of life meaning death or whatever they'll either refund the money isn't that from sickness though that's not from her going out and like eating a poisonous toad or something i'm not entirely sure on that yeah it's i doubt it's by action of like her running out and getting hit by a car it's going to be something like a disease or sickness or something unforeseen that is beyond your control or the dog's control I highly doubt they just cover anything yeah if a breaking bad plane explosion happens and you know something hits pizza hits a dog yeah I don't think that they would cover that that's a selfish move buddy alright I want to see I want to see where you guys even think you're at so I'm going to do 3, 2, 1, go and I the world moves fast your work day even faster pitching products, drafting reports analyzing data.

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20:570.5. Okay, we're pretty close, 0.50. If you want your Hammer financial score, it's free. Link in the description below. Also, if you have interesting financial situations, like they certainly obviously do apparently, and if you have interesting stories or if you're an interesting person and you want an opinion to be challenged, apply to be on the show. We're happy to have you. CalebHammer.com slash apply. I actually took the audit. you also been moaned in the member stream because we weren't getting to your application fast enough patience buddy okay i felt terrible after doing that you can ask her i had a panic attack because i felt like such an ass you weren't an ass we wouldn't like i promise you it did not impact us in any way i had to reassure him i'm like honey it's a genuine question you're fine like i felt like I was being an impatient little prick by doing that.

21:46How did we respond? You guys responded by like, it was, yeah, sorry, we'll get to you guys. We'll get to you as quick as we can. Like, things are backlogged. We get about 40 applications a day. So we have a lot to go through. And, like, it's just it's hard for us. There's very little of us and we have so many people trying to apply. Love the show. Recently decided to apply with my fiance. She's wondering what the turnaround would be for after sending our financial docs. Honestly, if you can do Thursday, Caleb was whining about how he doesn't want to film on Thursday. there. But if you... Wait, turn around.

22:16Would it be after they're sending our financial tax? Oh, so they haven't sent the financial tax. So who knows if they're even in the running. Exactly. So basically, if you're qualified, if we see enough interesting stuff to talk about in your statements, then we usually cast one to two weeks out. And we try not to... We honestly try to keep it about two weeks out because if it's three weeks out, then the financial situation is completely changed. The people come on and they say, Caleb, that's last month. I'm now perfect. And then it's like, cool, great. Why are we filming this? All the work that Jake put in.

22:32Yeah. Well, I'm sorry you had a panic attack. Someone who has them, I wouldn't want anyone to have that. That's really bad. But you're here. I'm here. Welcome. Thank you. Your finances suck. Absolutely. All right. So we already know what kind of came in through your guys' pay. It was essentially$3 ,500. It was a little weird. I think you make a little more than that, but that's what came in. How much do you guys think went out spending?

22:58Because we know you don't budget, so we know you don't consult each other. How much went out? About six because of the cash app. Can we do that about twice a month? Yeah. about 6 000 how the one first of all no it's four but 6 000 even that and this is so casual and you brought in it would have been less than half that or half three a little more than half that and you guys are just like okay 6 000 we spent double just because what we're just like how is that not impactful to you guys how are you just okay with that how do you allow that to happen it's nerve-wracking for sure but nerve-wracking how do you allow it to happen financial blindness a lot of just swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe go rather than swipe okay this much swipe okay this much so to be clear our goals don't matter again they really don't matter They matter a little, you know, 0.5%.

24:04But all the swipes, that's what matters more. The boba, that's what matters more. The new dog, that's what matters more than our goals. Yeah. The instant gratification, that dopamine hit. That's what matters more than our goals. Yeah. And we've been trying to. And married couples who don't get through their goals together do not stay together. isn't it infidelity financial and like cheating those are the main reasons for divorce yeah there's a list of reasons and uh finances is one of the leading causes absolutely and right now again we're trading for savings for boba getting a dog because the other one didn't cuddle we're not getting to our goals not aligned on our goals at least you guys were reliant on how bad you realize your situation is let's get into this debt what are we giggling about nervous my debt okay well who has this this picture of a document that's mine that's the dog so i don't have actual access to it and that an 18 dog an 18 18 % interest rate Siberian Husky.

25:18Yes. It does have 18 months APR. No APR, my bad. No APR. No interest for the first 18 months after that hits. Is it deferred? No. Okay. So it's just zero interest and then... Well, hold on. I'm out of finance. $2 ,829. So that's the price of the dog post tax. So what the fuck are you talking about this$3 ,400? Oh, total payments after everything, including interest. That's where it's$3 ,684. So what are you talking about? Because we were originally told we got approved for$3 ,500, and then that is what we had to pay back. Yeah. We were told the$3 ,500. Well, that's the$3 ,600. Because there's a financing charge of$855, that's the financing over the course of the time after your interest-free period.

26:10So he's doing everything in his power to do double payments each month. And? It was doing well until I transferred jobs. Doing well? You just got the dog in April. What's doing well? It's like three months ago? Yeah, I've done four payments in three months. So I'm one month ahead. In my mind, that's doing well. It's a start. Yeah. Doing seems to imply a continued action. it's a star. I do appreciate that for what it's worth. It is a little hard when they shut down for three weeks to remodel right after he starts. No, I get that. Is these 35 payments that 35 monthly payments are like biweekly monthly.

26:55So it's$102.36 a month. Currently total old about probably 2 ,800, right? Just about that right now. So the 3 ,500, you don't, but you don't owe her money. You're paying on the loan, right? No, I'm paying her. So you're giving her$102.36? And then she's putting that towards the loan. So he's paying the loan. It's just under her name. And does she think that the total that is owed is$3 ,500,$400, whatever, because that's the total payments in the end, when the amount financed was$2 ,829? I'm unsure. Have you not showed her this document? Because it's kind of laying it out pretty clear. Didn't she send you that document?

27:38Wait a second. Didn't she send you that picture? Oh. No. That is a picture from the actual. Damn, you know, payments. I have that. She got a PDF copy from the. Oh, but she has a PDF of that. She has a PDF of that. She should have access to that information. Yes. Okay. I mean, I can call her and see if she understands what he's asking. If she ain't busy. Yeah, so that is the interest baked in, to be clear. So that's why it's the total sales price of that. but that's after the interest. And the interest period free, interest free period is how long? 18 months. Okay, so it gets us halfway. Okay. We got like 15 months left.

28:21Just about a year now. Getting close. Year and a half. Alright. Stupid decision. And I love dogs. I love cats. I love all animals, really. We had a lizard before we got her dog. I love that. But we had to give it up. I love fish. I like anything that can be a pet. I love them. So I get it. you're just doing it in a very irresponsible and honestly kind of selfish way and dangerous way. What do you guys have saved up on the side right now? Right now, nothing. In my account. What the f*** happens if they eat a Lego or something? They jump wrong. Accidentally play too hard and one gets, you know, bit.

29:00A little too hard. Guys. Cash at Barrow. With a smirk too? with a nervous smirk. I'm not proud of it. How much can you borrow from Cash App? $175. That pays nothing. No emergency vet visit will ever be cheaper than like$1 ,500. Is that here in Austin? We had an emergency pet visit for her dog not too long ago. Okay, for what? For what? So, um... Also, but what about like paying for the vaccinations and everything? She's fully vaxxed. Okay, good. She's all up to... Neutered? Not yet. Not yet. We need to get the money. Okay, so what happened to the emergency vet? What was it? She ate some bird shit.

29:43Oh, yeah. She ate some bird shit. So what did they do? And she got intestinal bacterial infection. And so at the time, we didn't have the car, so I had my grandfather take us. What did the emergency vet do? They gave her some medicine. Did they run blood? No. Because that's very expensive. They did a fecal examination. Okay. So there just wasn't much investigation. So that's why it was a bit cheaper. Yeah. Okay. Trust me, anytime they need to do blood, anytime they need to do x-ray, if it's a little more complicated, that adds up. Hundreds. Thousands. Surgery. Thousands. Yeah, we do need to look into pen insurance, too.

30:27Not just that, but just a basic emergency phone. But I'm spending all your money on stupid shit. And don't get pets until you have a thing. What do you mean you had to give up a lizard? You had to give up a lizard. Why? You couldn't afford the lizard? No. We were neglecting the lizard because we got the dog. So we gave it to our friends who have multiple lizards. Well, thank you for at least realizing it and giving it up. Yeah. It was kind of, she was, Iggy, our lizard, was out of sight, out of mind. And our focus was on this really high energy dog. And we'd be like, oh, crap, Iggy. So we were, I hit up some friends that I'm good buddies with.

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32:56That's the borrow function for Cash App. So you do this? We both do it. That one you're looking at? Perfect. Perfect match. That one you're looking at is mine. My current one. Okay. Because we... Connor Cash App. We've gotten into a problem of... A cycle. Not a cycle. A problem. A cycle of... Of course. Pay the borrow. Oh, yeah. Take from the borrow. pay the borrow, take from the borrow, back and forth. Yeah, I mean, it's because you guys also make like pangs on the dollar. Yeah, so you also just don't work very many hours. So the Oklahoma City area, right? Mm-hmm. Now I will say, for my job at least, I'm training front and back of house.

33:43The back of house training, I'm getting out of dishwashing and going to line cook. Line cook makes about$16.50. Median hourly wage in Oklahoma City is$21.17. As of last year. For a dishwasher? No. Just in general. So you both are making decently under the median hourly wage, which anytime you're getting under the median hourly wage together as a household, things are going to be a struggle. And I'm not surprised that you guys are in this cycle of just essentially like payday loan cycles. Essentially you're cash at payday loaning. we think in any way whatsoever that it's okay to take from savings if we're payday loan shuffling no and what are you even getting uh what are you even like doing with the money that you get i mean the median household income in oklahoma city 67 963 you guys are dramatically under that 67 67 yeah and that's incorporating uh those younger people because once you get over the age of 45 the median in oklahoma city is 81 000 per household we need to start really thinking about our income a lot of times there's a lot of spending problems and trust me there are in here too that we'll go through but you we really need to start thinking about our income situation what we want to do luckily i mean i can get you guys both course career certifications you can do things like accounting even trades now and tech certifications it's up to you guys if you guys want to use that to try to start looking for something a little better or boost your resume definitely feel free but i do ultimately want to do cosmetology okay but i know that i can't i'm not like apply for schooling until i get our finances under control there's the price of schooling there's also the fact that it takes a while to make decent money in that industry it really does compared to many industries and then also like it's like hours weird hours worth of yeah schooling it's my older sister's currently in school for esthetician and it's like half of what it takes for full cosmetology yeah and they struggle too i used to do schooling for cosmo how are you guys you guys like the same person so for the school for cosmo that was actually free because my uh the trade school i went to if you go to a school within their district they will cover your entire entire tuition after you graduate up until you're 21 okay so i decided to do cosmetology well i went through the first half of the first semester once the second half of the first semester came around, I started living in my car.

36:29So I, this was like two, three years back though. So it has nothing to play with what you're looking at right now. Oh, well, how much do you owe on this? On this cash at borrow? On that cash at borrow?

36:45What did you pull? I pulled. You have 80 left to borrow. How much is owed? What's your total available? 175. 175. So 175 minus 80. That's about 95. $21 payments. Do you know what you're spending it on? I know today's was. I'll tell you. VR.

37:10Tatas in the virtual space. No, that's not what the. Some meta. Zuck.

37:22no that's a that's a different statement that's not what it's in the cash app in general though wow how much does vr first of all how does what is it what is it even like i wouldn't know it's his vr interesting it's different it's like pov extreme Why virtual reality when reality reality is right next to you? That's a good question I ask him the same thing And how often do you Is it a per time thing? Or are you buying a situation? It's a subscription And what is it? It's a yearly subscription How much? 99 and it just like shows like people doing things to you or something you doing things to other people so it's like POV you're Lauren Phillips or POV you're doing this you actually know a name a name not that I don't watch anything but I don't know anyone's name yeah do you have an addiction we need to talk about not anymore because I canceled those subscriptions because it was a...

38:46You canceled the VR one? Yeah, they were impulse purchases. I bought them, used them once, and then have it like... Can someone charge my meta headset, please?

39:00He'll know the website's for you. That's pretty wild, though, of a purchase in general. That's wild. It's interesting. it's the first one first time that's happened so congratulations i think um you seem more how do you feel i do because i'm i am it's just like what is it but how do you feel like spending money on when he told me he spent money on my literal my reaction was why are you spending money on when you could go to pub and watch it for free oh that's right you guys don't live in Texas. I don't like Okay, so we're... There are other free sites that you can use. The reason I say I don't like is just because you're an example.

39:52It's a bad example. I know. Whatever. Videos, whatever you use. Oh my gosh, you guys know all the sites.

40:04Jake suggests aficionados. Aficionados? I haven't heard of that one. either jake or claire i'm just assuming jake oh he says you guys are aficionados not to go okay all right some professional gunners over here so so far i believe what that borrow is is for our drive up here for gas At least you guys get reimbursed on that, but that's silly. And then is this yours? Yeah. Wait, is this$0 available to borrow? So that means yours is maxed out. Yeah. With$26 payments. Every what? Month. Month? No. No, those are the repay dates. Upcoming. We don't even know what she owes. That's when you have to repay them.

40:59But I always repay it with my next check. So you owe the total$175. That's insane, guys. We cannot be living. cash that bar to cash that borrow that's crazy and the fact that if 175 is a make or break for our life we've done life wrong listen some people are in unfortunate situations some people are in emergencies some people are in bad situations that are hard to get out of and i absolutely get that but i know what you guys make and it's not a substantial amount of income for the area but i know for a fact 175 should not be a make or break for your entire life it shouldn't be there are behavioral issues here to unlock definitely definitely adhd type purchases oh what the what that clinically diagnosed no i'm not he is i am clinically diagnosed uh bpd1 adhd okay have you seen someone to manage the coping skills around this yes so that it doesn't immediately go to let's our entire financial future and my future wife's financial future i have and then It's not just about...

42:03I have a psychiatrist. I see her about once every three months because... Affordability issues? No. It's just like I feel like things are going well and I don't need to talk much about it. Are they? Financially, no. Mentally, yes. But... He's stable. I'm stable. It could be better. I keep telling him he needs to get back into his therapy sessions weekly. I just realized you're a member. I appreciate everyone being members. You can't afford your membership. I'll see if I can gift you a membership. I'll see because I don't know how it works on this platform. I'll see if we can gift you a membership, but I wouldn't want people to go into debt to be a member or hold themselves back because don't do that.

42:51I appreciate everyone who is a member. It helps fund what we're trying to do here at this channel. We have a lot of different shows there and member streams, but don't do it. We'll see if we can gift you one. Okay. let's look into that please naughty naughty okay alright let's keep going credit karma a closed discover card what is this? that's mine collections? or is it just closed for now? I think they just closed it because in the collections it's two other purchases you have collections? yes they're like two separate why are you having collections at 23 this is so young for this first of all you guys are not credit card people please never open a credit card please stop with the cash app thing use charge cards like a fizz card if you're ever going to use one so you're forced to pay it but even that I don't know if I trust you so that was a secure card for only 200 so I could not spend more than 200 dollars it's a 212 interest that's the interest and it was because Because at the time, I could easily pay back that$200 with one paycheck because I was at Taco Bell.

44:03And then why are we not paying it now? Because, again,$200 should not be a make or break for your entire life. This has to be months of not paying for it to be closed like that. When we got together, he didn't want me using it because I had no self-control with it. Sure, I get that, but why not pay it? I forgot I had a balance on it. How do we forget? How do we forget? How do we just like, what? You don't have the app? I do but my phone There was no automated payments? No there was no automated payments So when you locked it you weren't like Oh here's this card that's fully paid off? No it was Give me the card we're putting it in the lockbox It's been in the lockbox for about a year now Okay so what is this credit Okay well Okay here's two collections from you I don't know what the Kane and Weiner are Kane and Weiner is.

44:56Well, Kane and Weiner is the agency that's trying to get it. But you don't know where it's from? Who sold it to them? No. I don't know where either of those came from. We have$221. You haven't been... You're saying there's been no bills you've missed. Electricity. There's been no rent ever that you've missed. There's been no financing thing you've ever done. No cards. What? Yeah, from before you and I met. Oh, back with... me and my ex. Yeah. Collections, they can only be on here. He was supposed to have paid that. But it wasn't in my name. Okay. Well, then it's your responsibility. But that's mine.

45:35Why haven't you paid them in so long? Because I haven't gotten any bills or anything from them. But it's hurting your credit. The only bill I get right now is from an access medical center because I owe$10. And I just need to go down the street and pay it. Why haven't you gone down the street and paid it? we need to have a little bit of responsibility in our life i can't drive the car i'm not allowed to drive the car you can't walk why can't you drive she crashed my last one ah what the what do you mean so i was taking one of my co-workers home and i was at a stop sign and i had looked both ways and proceeded to go when it was clear and then some kid comes flying out of nowhere and slanted it in the front.

46:25Well, it sounds like it wasn't her fault. It wasn't, but insurance claimed it was. Because there was no proof. Dash cam, friendos. We have dash cam now. Yeah. There was no proof that he was speeding and I had the stop sign. You can't walk down the street to pay it? Bike? I do have a bike. We have two bikes. There you go. How long have you owed$10? Are you kidding me? Like a month. Are you kidding me? We need, I feel like, okay. we have I can't speak for the rest of your life and I'm not going to assume the rest of your life but we at least have the financial management of 14 year olds right now I just need a little maturity here a little effort a little responsibility$10 pay it I was actually more financially responsible as a 14 year old it was when I moved out that money became an issue he buys just like a 14 year old who just discovered what it is

47:22like before i moved out i had 900 in savings that i didn't touch i think it was uh having that adult here adult style thing above our heads telling us i don't know what happened you think so i can make 20 last two weeks in high school but yeah but you Living in a more protected, coddled environment. With rules and people who wanted to know where you were. Different life. And now you're managing it all on your own and we're seeing. To be fair, they did try to set me up for success. They tried having me do Financial Peace University. Oh, I'm not blaming them. I was stupid teenage kid. I was like, I don't need it.

48:11Yeah. and now I'm like okay maybe I needed it pay the ten dollars please that will get done what's your credit score I think it's like 469 that's insane whoa sorry I don't mean to like laugh at that that's crazy I thought it was 569 oh please be even that's horrendous but 469 would be insane they probably threw away that page uh because you know credit the credit cards have like a thousand pages but i can pull it up if it's if it's in the fours like i'm walking out into the middle of the highway can i join you yes you might want to once we go through this spending is that all the debt 92 oh he just died inside that's crazy I've been dead inside That's ridiculous Any other debt?

49:10Does the car have debt? The vehicle, the vroom vroom machine No I do It's fully paid off No, for this month because Insurance, he's not talking about insurance Are there any other debts? So before he and I met Before he and I met My ex best friend Convinced me to get a sugar daddy and so I went online found a guy he was sending me checks through email having me deposit it through email what the is that like cash app okay I asked if he had cash app he said no this was like a virtual sugar daddy situation yeah like over the phone type stuff and so I would deposit the checks he'd have me keep some and then use Cash App to send it to somebody else.

50:08How the f*** is that not screaming? How old were you? 21. How the f*** was that not screaming red flags in your head three years into adulthood? Sending money to another random person? I guess I'm just too trusting for my own good. Was it the f***ing validation from him? was it like so he didn't want any like pictures or anything like that other red flag yeah um he said he just wanted to talk somebody to talk to this was also late at night and i had not gone to bed yet there's like three four o 'clock in the morning yes men only want to talk after 10 p.m historically and um so then two days later my whole bank account gets frozen then they are like hey you owe like almost four thousand dollars oh wait how much were these checks coming in they were like checks um nine thousand nine hundred and how much were you supposed to send to the other person like 700 of it and you thought there was a random 700 tax to a random person?

51:26No, he said it was for his help. Did you ever see this FaceTime? No. He was sending me pictures through text. Did you never do the two, three, four finger rule? The heck is that? Show me a picture with three fingers holding up to prove it's you? I've never heard of that. How much have you guys dated around? Not very much, honestly. we actually met on tinder yeah but but we knew what you two were the sugar daddy no us two but we knew of each other in high school so like we had different only saw pictures of them what did he look like like this older gentleman like in his like 60s 70s did he ever send a voice note did it sound like this no

52:19but I did file a police report on it that's good but the bank said they can't do anything with the police report unless they actually catch the guy yeah and they won't but I don't want to repay that because it wasn't my fault but it was but repay it to who the bank the bank wants me to repay them that money because it's honestly because no offense but i almost think you should because i'm gonna be brutally honest this is this is not uh not the on you you're a very pleasant person and i like both of you but you were kind of the dumbest person i've ever heard of in that moment there were so many red flags and verifications you could have done and this is so sounds so weird and you used the bank's money to you almost should pay it back i'm kind of on the bank's side you're frauded i'm not on the on the side of like you should pay it because obviously you got but it's just like i get the bank's perspective because it was their money they got frauded too they probably have insurance to cover it though how how have those conversations gone with the bank so i went in to talk to them about it.

53:36I got the police report number and everything. And he can vouch for me because he was there with me for that conversation. But they're like, there's nothing we can do. You have to pay this back. Yeah. And if you can't pay them full, you can pay$50 increments until it's paid off completely. It is a federal credit. Every month? Every month. It's not the worst. The thing is, is your credit's already f***ing. This is just going to continue f***ing days. sell it off and i don't know if it's like a sell-off type thing though it's interesting they could go to maybe like small claims or something legally a little might not be worth their time and energy oh it's a credit union we'll see um it's a tinker federal credit union and uh as one of my producer who's worked with a credit union he's saying that it can really up your options for opening other bank accounts up going forward and that within itself oh oh i use cash app and then my work has one of their like prepaid cards so here's the thing i'm on your side i don't want you to repay it either but literally just for the sake of like existing in society it just might be the bullet we have to bite i agree you shouldn't have to pay it i don't want you to pay it an insurance or something should be covering it on their behalf some fraud thing this is why I kind of wish it was almost through a credit card instead but yeah I'm sorry that sucks gooned a little too close to the sun with that one yeah no more sending random money to people that we don't verify are real or ever hear the voice of yeah no I learned that lesson the hard way noted yes now I go through various things to actually make sure I'm sending it to the right person and it's an actual person.

55:30I'm sorry you went through that. That really sucks. Again, this might just be a bullet we have to bite so that you can operate in society. Bank accounts, they're important. You're gonna... We tried to get her signed up for my bank, the bank I use. Yeah, they said no. Oh, yeah, I bet. They're like, you have this$4 ,000 thing on here. And she's like... So how much do you owe again? I don't remember the exact number but it's close to like$4 ,000 that's crazy that's absolutely insane but we can do$50 increments and I think that's manageable, it's going to take forever to pay off does that come with interest?

56:09I don't think so I don't remember if they said anything about interest if that is the case you may as well at least get on it and then we can pay it off early because it's going to take 80 months which is way too long you know that's 6 and a half years, like why do that but it at least allows you to start get the ball rolling and then we can throw it into our overall debt payoff strategy. Okay? And I'm sorry, you guys. I really do. That's been this huge thing. It's one of those things where it's like, I want to almost set up a GoFundMe for that.

56:41But I just can't. I'm sorry. I can't. The main thing is, is I don't want people to come on with the hope or expectation. Right. No, I understand that. I honestly didn't think you would even think of something like that. I mean, you got f***ed. It absolutely sucks. I honestly figured it was. Let's do it. We're going to do a one-time thing for this. Since you got f***ed by some scam thing, this is going to be the only time I will ever do this. No expectation. If you come on, I will never do this again. But we're going to set up a GoFundMe. We're going to look into it. It's going to be near the top of the description or somewhere near the resources.

57:16If you want to, no obligation to, especially if you have debt. But we're going to do that and try to get her out of the 4 ,000 madness of insanity from that chaos. Yeah? Yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah, cool. Okay. Because this has, like, been looming over me to the point where I don't even want to go to the bank to – he had to force me to go to the bank to talk to them about it. Like, it gave me such anxiety. Yeah. I would just be filled with rage personally, even. Oh, I was pissed. Yeah, I still would be. I'm pissed on your behalf. That's why I'm willing to kind of break my rule on this. It's a rule I don't do.

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58:59You stopped at her store. You got like a snack or an energy drink. Amazon went inside, got a snack or energy drink. Vapor one. Oh, are we vaping? We're vaping. Both? Yeah. Guys, let's try to live beyond 40. Huh? Eight years in the hole. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. I'm so lucky. I was so close to the vape generation. So one vape lasts me like two months. I don't smoke it that much. And how long will your lungs last you? Who knows? He goes through the same size that I get in like a week, maybe two. How much does it cost each time? $20. $23. Okay. Every two weeks? Every two weeks. For him. So about$40 a month for me.

59:43So it's$598 a year on that. When, again, mind you, we're literally borrowing$175 every paycheck just to survive. You guys spent$100 together in vapes across that month. You guys can't afford to live right now. You owe the bank money from the scam. You're borrowing little micro payday loans. We have collections. I can't put this in your budget because, one, it's bad for you. Two, it's stupid for your budget. But it's so much easier said than done. You're just going to have to work on this. Hold each other accountable. Seek help. I know it's not like a type of addiction. I don't want to make it sound like it's that extreme, but it's, you know, not good for you.

1:00:31And we don't even know all the implications of vape for the lungs yet in the body. I used to smoke cigarettes. Well, I'm very glad you got off that. Definitely. He got off it because I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. Good. So I can't even smoke cigarettes. Good. Yeah, but I switched to vaping. I'd kick you guys out if you smelled like it. Nasty. But I think this is something you guys should just work on for each other and for yourself and for your families and for your dogs. Bad for your budget, bad for your health. Set up goals. Maybe we get the special prize for six months clean. Special prize.

1:01:10Year clean, that kind of thing. Just work on it. I can't put it in your budget. It would have to be a go X amount of time with one vape and then like cut the time back. Whatever you guys have to do. I'm not an expert in that, but that's. So lung cancer, Chick-fil-A, tipioca. So you're getting boba too. For her. I hate boba. The texture of the tapioca freaks me out. You can get it without the tapioca. You can get the tea. I don't like tea. He's a weirdo. And going inside from gas station, getting some drinks. So what are you getting? Because you're always getting like drinks and snacks. He's getting energy drinks.

1:01:46Monsters. Yeah, let's get diabetes while we're at it and kill our heart. McDonald's. Chick-fil-A. Going inside, getting some bulls**t. Lung cancer. There's the VR. McDonald's. Going inside, getting some bulls**t. Okay. Then yours. So this is your checking account. $95 to your name. Oh, boy. Subscription for music. Crunchyroll. Anime. I know what it is. I exist. And some bulls*** from the place you work at, probably. More bulls*** from there. So, it's groceries. Really? Just micro-dosing groceries? Yeah, we just grab it as we need it. Because I work at a grocery store. We don't let it build up to where we make a big purchase.

1:02:36We just grab it as we need it. That's interesting, because then you're f***ing going and door dashing, even though you're getting groceries. and we can't afford to live. That's a curious thing. Lung cancer. Bark box. Bark box. No. No, no, no. Get a little cheap toys if we need to here and there. So the thing with that was the cheap toys because we were getting them from Walmart for like five, six bucks. Okay, fine. Go to PetSmart. Get the indestructible. There's these indestructible things that I get for my big dogs that destroy things. It will last for a while. I forgot the brand. We went to Petco because there's more down the street from us.

1:03:14Yes, get antlers. Oh. They love them. Like actual antlers. Yeah. It's like basically impossible. I thought you were talking about like a store or something. So my aunt, she has a poodle and they got him this like massive bone. Yeah. And it was screwing with our dog's stomach. What kind of bone? It was. Cow femur? Yeah. It looked like it was a giant cow femur. Well, I don't know anything about that, but maybe try the antler because they really can't chew it. Like, it's like almost impossible. Like, you can't break it. So they're gnawing on it for like years. Huskies' stomachs are very sensitive.

1:03:50Okay. Both of our dogs are huskies. Talk to your vet. I don't know, but this is stupid. You can't afford it. And then same with the DoorDash. You paid for TikTok Live? You did not donate on a TikTok Live stream$3. I paid for some subscription. How about you donate to you guys being able to exist? for f***s sake are you kidding me Legos wow I didn't even know there was Legos when I made that joke earlier about a dog eating a Lego are you kidding me so that was for my second youngest cousin's birthday and me and my sister went in on it together and you can't afford it so I don't give a s*** I don't give a s*** if you have collections that would have paid off half of one of them happy birthday brother or cousin or nephew happy birthday cousin your cousin's getting out of debt so she can get married, huh?

1:04:37How about that? Then you're also paying for Snapchat. You're how that company is still surviving. I always wondered how. Huh? He's also paying for Snapchat. What the f*** is there to pay for? I pay the yearly 23 Snapchat premium. What do you get? I got it for dark mode. No, what? Literally for dark mode? Oh, that f***. They didn't have it on Android when I got Snap Premium. They didn't have it on Android. Just shut the f*** up. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Cancel that s***. Do not let it renew. Okay. DoorDash, DoorDash, that's dumb as f***. Come on. If there's anything dumber, like, you can go pick up food for almost half the price.

1:05:17If we're going to go out to eat what you shouldn't because you can't afford it because we're living payday loan to payday loan, but we're getting it delivered, no excuse to be lazy. I know there's only one car, and if that's the case and he's out and about, then go to the pantry and eat a dry noodle. door dash spotify you can listen to ads paramount plus nothing on there gyro gyro sorry i always say that cup bop what was that the gyro cup bop what is a cup bop it's korean barbecue in a cup okay cool absolutely put water in your cup drink it that's all you can afford door dash are you kidding me that's insane door dash 37 these prices are insane more door dash why do you have spotify and youtube music i don't have youtube music You got two YouTube music charges I shouldn't have YouTube music I didn't sign up for YouTube music I signed up for YouTube premium I use YouTube premium I love it Because you get YouTube music and YouTube premium Love it you had two YouTube music payments And Spotify So just take a look into it DoorDash again Petland Nintendo And then What is this?

1:06:30what is this? Whose checking account is this? That's mine. So you do have a checking account. That's the prepaid card from work. Oh my gosh. They use Skylight. It was either you. Cash app, cash app, cash app, withdraw. Taco Bell, Taco Bell, Amazon, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app. I don't remember. The Amazon was, my card was on his Amazon and it threw me. You, the bank first loyal. Yeah. You started negative in your savings. If I'm reading that right, you started negative in your savings. I thought I started with the dollar on there. I'm seeing negative 89 cents.

1:07:15Oh, that was after they took out the dollar fee. That's what that is. That's why I started negative. Because I transferred two bucks over. That's a joke. That's a joke. I check an account$34. So two DoorDash things. Guys, what are you doing? Then you're waiting to get an energy drink. Then ramen. Oh my gosh, there's more. This is insane. You guys are ridiculous. How are you living like this? You're spending so much money. You have no money. You're micropayday loaning. You're going out to eat every meal. How are we doing this, guys? This cannot. Your future doesn't exist. Your wedding doesn't exist.

1:07:53Getting out of debt will never exist with the behavior that you guys are doing. to be very clear to be as clear as possible you're never getting out of debt with this ever the ramen is work you know because the funny part hilarious absolutely comical your guys's debt compared to people coming on the show is practically nothing yes you guys make lower than the median income in your area but also you do have income coming in that you can afford to do the fact that you guys have the debt have the collections are not making progress and are borrowing from mother-in-law it is all because you guys are just spending every day of your life on swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe this is ridiculous more ramen amazon cash app going inside getting energy during chick-fil-a cash app uh storage and cancer and there's premium and cash app cash at mcdonald's

1:08:54this is insane guys what are we doing reminder you spent at least 500 more than you made last month groceries because you did your little micro dosing of groceries was 2.5 to 5 percent of your spending but going out to eat was almost 12 percent Yeah, we really want to get out of debt. We really want to hit our goals, right? Miscellaneous bullshit, things that don't matter, just subscriptions and crap. Or not even subscriptions. Subscriptions is 2.3. Then miscellaneous bullshit is an additional 6.4 % of your spending. Other large purchases, 18.4. Let's see what those other large purchases were.

1:09:34It was cash apping out and ATM withdrawal. So the ATM withdrawal was because for a while we had to physically pay our electric bill at one of their little kiosk things Guys, this is insane I pay the loan through Cash App So a bunch of those like 105, 102's We would have added that to your debt payment then Now in hindsight The BS spending The miscellaneous BS spending and the going out to you spending was ridiculous the subscription itself is also ridiculous I think you guys are bringing in 4 ,000 hours a month net I would be surprised if it's less let me get your minimum debt payments here we're getting you on the$50 a month plan to the bank you're going to start that and then if the GoFundMe works if it doesn't it doesn't and then you pay Peacock annually as well which also is the office just over and over again is it still good Yeah.

1:10:33Isn't it like the same three plots over and over again? I just started watching it. Paramount, I don't really watch but my family does. I don't give a f***. Unless they're paying for it. It's my grandfather and my grandfather will give me rides to work a couple times a week whenever he's working the morning shifts. Alright. $199.36 in minimum payments. That's so manageable. What's your rent? $1 ,200 $1 ,200 For income it's a little hard You can fit it but you know You guys are lucky you have each other Water is incorporated in that Electric gas Electric ranges So the only other on top of rent We have to pay is electric Average $100 $80 to$100 This last month was like$200 We'll call it$100 Internet I have through my phone bill It's about$40.

1:11:31Through your phone bill. What's your phone bill? T-Mobile. And how much is that? $160. Do you own your phones? I don't. It's expensive. I just got a new phone last year. Is that you guys together? No. No. I'm 15 for my phone. Good. Good. Who are you using? T-Mobile. How'd you get 15? Family. Family plan. My uncle is allowing me to be on his plan and he's military service. I don't know how the math works out with the internet situation What it would cost for you to get internet I want you to do something like helium which is T-Mobile Towers As well you know one of those cheaper services For 20 bucks a month I gotta pay my phone off first That's why I asked if it was finance so what is yours What's your phone bill again 165 I believe 15 plus 165 180 okay Gas a month drive drive Vroom vroom 120 car insurance 208 okay me yeah groceries we can do 550 tp funny anything else need to survive 150 medical co-pays uh my co-pay is 30 how often anytime i go in how often you go in rarely okay so it doesn't have to be in the budget then that's That's why I have that$10.

1:12:53You'll learn how to do those. Any ongoing co-pays. Gym? No. That is my grandfather. No. Oh, gym. Oh, no, we don't go to the gym. Oh. Workout gym. Okay. Workout gym. We have one in the apartment, so we don't need that. Sorry, when it shows up on my Cash App, it shows up with his name. Anything else I need to put in your guys' accounts? Would dog food be incorporated into that? How much for dog food? It's like$24 a bag. How many bags? We buy two. Okay, so$50 for dog food. Because they're both on different formulas. And$50 for pet insurance as well. Do you have a recommendation for pet insurance?

1:13:36Because I've been looking around and I just don't know what to go through. Who was the sponsor? Who was the pet insurance sponsor we just filmed, Clara? You can check out money.com. it's like money.com forward slash Caleb or something like that. They like compare pet insurances and you know, you can choose what's recommended there. Okay. So that'll be good. I'm doing 50 bucks for both. Anything else that needs to be in your guys' budget? Not that I can think of. Dog toys? Nope. Nope. Guys. Okay. We'll get one more Kong and we'll call it good. Yeah. It's like three bucks for a Kong. I think so.

1:14:18Something like that. You guys have room. Again, this was just your behavior. I do think you guys should make more income, and we should get you there for the long term. But I think you guys bring in$4 ,000 a month net together. You really should. You need$2 ,807.36 to survive. So this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you guys$192.64 of fun. Okay? So you have$1 ,000 left over. So just budget your fund, whether that be subscriptions or going out to eat or VR. You're not living that one down. Of course not. It's easy. The first month, I mean, just pay off those micro loans. Put the rest aside in the savings.

1:15:04Second month, put aside in savings. Third month and fourth month, pay off the dog. Fifth month, pay off both collections. And then if there's anything after the GoFundMe on the bank, pay it off. But that's just five months. This is so easy. You guys are just acting like children, guys. This is fucking nothing. And then save up$10 ,000 for an emergency fund or six months of living expenses. About$9 ,000 last time I did it. That would be$16 ,800. No, you need$2 ,807 to live, we just said. Yeah. Well, it would be$2 ,600 now without the debt. Times that by six. And we're still paying the minimum. $15 ,600.

1:15:49So I think you guys would be done like a year, guys. Like a year. A year and a quarter. A year and a quarter. You guys are out of debt. Yeah. Depending on how the GoFundMe goes. Right. You know? You can still call it a year and a quarter or two years. No, because you pay that off in a month. Either a year and a quarter or a year and a half. And you guys are... And then you're saving for your wedding. Because, I mean, that's forever away anyway. So it's just like... This is nothing, guys. This is nothing. You guys are just acting like children. This is the easiest solution we've had on the show in forever.

1:16:24It's just been being able to like. Spend. Budget. Budget. For the first time in your life, budget. Go to the budgeting class. Guys. Stick with the budget. Stick with it. Go through it. We help you stick through it. And join the past guest discord so you guys hold each other accountable. I keep my eyes on it. I'm not in there like participating, but you know. Keep each other accountable. And then reach out to us for anything. Spending your budget, you guys overspend. Zero out of 10. Debt. You have collections. Zero out of 10. Emergency fund. There's nothing. Zero out of 10. Retirement. There's nothing.

1:16:54Zero out of 10. Right? Right. Zero out of 10 for real estate. Hammer financial score. Zero out of 10. Should be, should be, and will be like a five out of 10 almost instantly. Just be adults. Finally. I think it's time. You know, 23, 22. It's adult time. Okay. Yeah. Make sure to stick around for the post show. We're going to talk about some extra drama that we didn't have a chance to get into. There's also other shows and fun things behind the scenes and member streams. If you guys join that membership, check it out on the link in the description below. And also just check out the resources down there.

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