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Podcast Summary: Financial Audit - This $400,000 Debt Will End Financial Audit
Podcast Title: Financial Audit Episode Title: This $400,000 Debt Will End Financial Audit Host: Caleb Hammer Guest: Sylvia, a 50-year-old consultant from Houston, Texas Episode Released: [Link to Post Show](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLe_q9axMaeTbjN0hy1Z9xA/join)
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Episode Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, host Caleb Hammer engages with a guest, Sylvia, who has accumulated approximately $400,000 in debt. Sylvia discusses her financial struggles, including significant IRS debt and ongoing poor financial management decisions. The episode aims to highlight Sylvia's financial situation, exploring her spending habits, debt management, and the implications of her choices on her future.
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Key Points
Introduction to the Guest
- Background:
- Name: Sylvia
- Age: 50
- Location: Houston, Texas
- Occupation: Consultant specializing in ethics and compliance.
Financial Situation
- Total Debt: Approximately $400,000 in liabilities, largely from bad debt with no corresponding assets.
- IRS Debt: Sylvia has tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid IRS taxes dating back several years.
- Spending Habits: Sylvia admits to poor money management, impulsive spending, and living beyond her means, which have led to her current financial crisis.
Discussion Highlights
- Financial Mismanagement:
- Sylvia acknowledges never having an emergency fund, leading to reliance on credit for expenses.
- Poor prioritization of spending, including significant amounts on non-essentials like dining out and vacations.
- Income vs. Expenses:
- Despite earning a substantial income of around $185,000 annually, Sylvia's expenditures exceed her earnings due to high debt obligations and lifestyle choices.
- Sylvia's spending habits are driven by a desire to 'buy happiness,' reflecting common consumerism behavior.
- Debt Types:
- The discussion uncovers various debts, including credit card debts, personal loans, and debts related to her children.
- High-interest rates on loans and credit cards are exacerbating her financial situation.
Insights and Recommendations
- Lack of Financial Literacy:
- Sylvia's situation illustrates the consequences of inadequate financial education, even when individuals possess a good income.
- Caleb emphasizes the importance of budgeting and financial planning, which Sylvia has neglected.
- Path Forward:
- The episode suggests the need for Sylvia to explore options for debt resolution, including potentially filing for bankruptcy.
- Recommendations include better money management practices, prioritization of debt repayments, and possibly seeking professional financial advice.
Conclusion
- The episode derives a critical lesson about the importance of financial education and discipline. Sylvia's journey highlights the dire consequences of poor financial management and the necessity of proactive strategies to manage debt effectively.
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Call to Action Listeners are encouraged to assess their financial health, consider their spending habits, and seek resources for budgeting and financial education. The episode also promotes Caleb's financial programs for budgeting and investing, available at a discount.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01The world moves fast. Your workday? Even faster. pitching products, drafting reports, analyzing data. Microsoft 365 Copilot is your AI assistant for work. Built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and other Microsoft 365 apps you use. Helping you quickly write, analyze, create, and summarize. So you can cut through clutter and clear a path to your best work. Learn more at Microsoft.com slash M365 Copilot. To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. $400 ,000 of bad debt without any assets as far as I know yet. You're 50. Yes. Why are you in debt for TikTok shop? I just want to pay it out.
0:43What is pay it out? Like pay it out over time. You can't. Your minimum payments are stacked up every... Everything is so stacked. Oh, whoa. That was the end of the debt. The fattest of stacks we have ever seen. Hi, my name is Sylvia. I'm 50 years old. I'm from Houston, Texas, and this is Financial Audit. So normally I would jump into pleasantries and everything, but seeing how this is fat stacks week as we're talking about it, and you don't even know this, and we didn't even know this. This is a whole week of episodes of the fattest of stacks we have ever seen, and you're literally ending the week.
1:20We didn't know it was a thing until all of a sudden you applied, and we were just like, what has happened? We've just done so many of these in a row all of a sudden. So fat stack week, but also out of the gate, I saw my notes. there's a whole note our producer lindsey she's getting all the notes and everything i was just like oh what's up with today's recording oh she has tens of thousands of dollars of irs debt but is planning to go on a europe vacation with her friend maybe so how are we doing a year of vacation if we're an irs debt so i mean that's just this kind of blowing my mind end of fast sex week and irs debt so it's interesting and i'm interested okay but first i want to know what do you do for living in houston and thanks for being on i do appreciate it glad to be here glad to be here um i am a consultant so i go into companies and help them build their ethics and compliance programs ethics and compliance so what does that look like anti-bribery corruption so i write policies but Do you have IRS debt?
2:17Yes. Yes. But I will pay it. But there's years of IRS debt. There is years of IRS debt. Let's pay it. In 2040? Maybe. Maybe. Hopefully sooner. You'll help me do it sooner. I'd like to. And another weird part about this, again, there's this weird thing so I want to call out at the beginning. Mr. Dude over there. Your son. Uh-huh. We won't name him because, you know, we use anonymous names. But son guy. He teaches one of the Dave Ramsey classes, yet you have a fast stack of debt and IRS debt. And your kid teaches the financial peace thing. I know. He must not be a good teacher. Okay. Well, either f*** him or f*** you or f*** you both.
2:56I don't know what's happening. But why then? If you have the resources in your corner more than normal for most people, why is this possibly so bad? Why is this possibly so thick and fat? uh well lots of reasons uh can't really blame it on one reason but i have can you blame it on anything other than yourself uh mostly myself yes i have been in a marriage for 13 years where we had lots of unemployment um on his side okay his side lots of years probably half of the marriage I would say. Half of the marriage? How? What did he do? He's in IT. Okay. So just lots of, lots of job losses. He couldn't find other jobs?
3:41Not jobs that he was willing to take. Okay. That makes sense. So it kind of started out my first year of being self-employed. I had saved all the taxes. I had put it in an account and he had been out of work for a year at that point. And I was like, okay, so how much longer is he going to be out of work? So he didn't pay the taxes for that year. because i was what do you mean what hold on well whatever he was what was the longest stint of unemployment um a year at least probably okay so after that why didn't we save up a full year emergency fund if we knew that was a reality in our situation why are we going into the for debt for that if this was a thing that was ongoing in the good times wouldn't we prepare for the inevitable rain that we knew was coming from living in a historic rainy place yeah no i've I've never had an emergency fund.
4:33You've never had an emergency fund. I was a single mom for 10 years. Congratulations. Get an emergency fund. What? No, no good reason. Good job, but get an emergency fund. Yeah. I don't, single, not single. Yeah. Doesn't mean you cannot get one or can't get one or many. There are single moms who are superheroes out there killing, you know, just getting done. and i think if anyone needs an emergency fund more than anyone it's probably someone who's a single parent yeah because they don't have the other thing to rely on so i think actually being a single mom should mean that you have an emergency fund more than not oh no i was saying that that it's terrible too i mean like i know i should have had one but it's never it's just never happened why emergency fund there's always something else to pay just priorities girl i got your spending and you're f***ing around.
5:29Yes. Going out to eat, having just miscellaneous bullshit. No,$1 ,500 on miscellaneous bullshit. Also, we're going to have you take a little sip of water because you got the... going on. Which is okay. It happens. But we're doing it for you, the audience. Thank you, everyone. You want to get a little nervous on camera. Sorry. Totally good. Nothing bad. So what are we making in this consulting job? Probably about$185 ,000. Good f*** you make a s*** ton of money. How long have you made this much money? Probably off and on for the past five or six years. I started consulting. How much did you make when you were the single mom?
6:08That was the card we pulled immediately. Less than 50. Okay, well, less than 50 when? In 2011, I was making$48 ,000 a year. Okay. So. Oh, okay. So 13 years ago. that had to have been relatively close to the median household 2011 relatively close was it probably 10 000 more or so maybe maybe so i mean that shouldn't have been like the biggest thing now what obviously becomes a massive issue there is like taking care of the kids because you got to make the money but where do the kids go and that's where there's usually a huge problem but you can be a single mom making a million bucks a year you know being like a power boss or something and it's like okay obviously the income part is not the issue there right and for your portion the 50 right around that 50 it's a little hard to say especially since we know you spend so much money on bull so i don't know it's it's the fact that single mom is such a huge thing it really is but the fact that you immediately pulled the card out of the wallet that's always Well, it gives me a little bit of concern when we're talking about why your fat stack is so big today.
7:21And we were just like, whoosh, drew it, threw it on the table. Yeah. Even though, of course, you've been married for 14 years. Yes. Yes, I have been. So I just mean like when I was a single mom, I still didn't have an emergency fund. Now I make way more. Still no emergency fund. Sure. Fair enough. Not a good choice. Fair enough. Okay. So$180 ,000. You didn't pay taxes. so we owe back taxes but for the sake of future taxes are you at least setting just 25 30 percent as high i'm hoping to now yeah no i haven't been fun fact we're in the 10th month of the year uh so i don't think the irs listens to laughter and allows that to be settled debt from the previous year yeah also why are you making your son watch this i feel so bad for him i'm like this show has a little bit of a roast element and your kids in there i would hate seeing my mom roasted no he he knows it he he loves your show he's the one who got me on here well i appreciate it try not to cringe too hard he knows every detail so he is he's my uh future accountability partner so he knows everything current well past i mean now but for my future because i've never even my husband never knew all the finance stuff i see on the good path but you're on the path i don't know maybe i pass on my good genes to him uh-huh what real answer um i'm just terrible with money i mean i i try to i try to buy happiness okay so yeah you know that's american consumerism right there not happy in life not happy in marriage or not happy whatever just you know do not find yourself happy in life right now right now i'm happier than i have been because i'm separated so that helps so now i feel like i'm in control of my own destiny okay so 180 and you hope to set money aside what does hope to i don't i that doesn't make any sense why aren't we setting money aside like just a responsible business owner that we should be relatively especially since you've been doing this for five years first couple years i get it maybe you know a little confused you're learning the ropes five years in i think at that point we're probably setting money aside and not hoping to irs isn't a hope to right no i just poor money management just absolute poor money management um and just buying stuff i don't need um i have to it's the priority thing right how much did you bring in last month from the business transfer into your personal right uh last month probably 15 16 11 700 oh how much did you spend um more than that i'm sure uh let's go with 14 15 okay so overspent our earnings while having a stack that is basically all debt.
10:23You technically have retirement, but for 50, there's nothing. Nothing. It's almost like, what, 5%, 10 % of what we'd want you to see? Just scary. Consulting, okay, sure. Do you think you're going to be doing that when you're 85? and have to get the grind of selling yourself constantly? Yeah, I hope not. Let me shave your business. You think that's going to? Pretty much no. I don't want to be doing this at 85. If you're falling downstairs on the way up to my office, I don't think I'm hiring you. Right, right. To tell my business how to survive. Oh, well, how to not commit fraud, I guess. Not commit fraud.
11:10Well, I want to hear self-assessed. Where do you think you are? On the finance scales, zero being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best. Where do you think you are? Oh, zero. Clear zero. Good. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that you at least know you're in a bad position, and I think it helps with your son being in the position that he's in as well. And if you guys want your Hammer Financial Score, it's free. Link in the description below. And if you want to be on the show, you can bring your son. Sure. Absolutely. You know, bring anyone you want. Come to CalebHammer.com slash apply.
11:44We'd be happy to have you on the show in Austin, Texas. All right. This is going to take so long to get through.
11:54It's only the beginning of the week. Yeah. It's only the beginning of the week, and you're bringing this into my life. Okay. You're welcome. Yes. Target. Yeah. This is actually interesting because this might be like the only card that doesn't have interest, but I put it at the top of the stack. This is actually a card that you pay off. trust me that is not what it's like for the rest of them so i'm a little confused with this card what are we usually getting at target because you spent 237 dollars at target and target's an unknown entity when walking out of right so what were you actually getting uh i don't know if that was me or that's the card that sometimes my daughter will use how old's your daughter 23 Why the f*** does she have a card for Target from you?
12:44Because I want to help her. Yeah, you owe money to the IRS for multiple years. So, help her by you being able to retire at some point so she's not putting her life on hold in the 40s because her mom can't afford to put a roof over her head. How about that? Yeah, no. That'd be pretty good. That'd be pretty selfless. Target card, you can't afford to... Does she pay towards it? No. Does he have an infinite money card? No. How old is he? He used to, but he doesn't now. How old is he? He's 22. So a year younger, why does she have an infinite money card at 23 for Target? She is not as good with her money as he is.
13:22So that's the person we should be giving an infinite money card to, someone that's not as good with their money. Well, it's not infinite. There's going to be a limit on there, but yeah. Yes, but you're allowing her to bring it all the way up to it. Yeah, she can. No. Why? i because i'm afraid she won't eat starved no that's what i'd say because she won't is the thing i don't know she's lost some weight i you never i i seriously 2024 year of osopic what what okay uh well let me get some actual real information from this instead of just you know joking around with it what does she do for a living uh she is an account manager okay she can she can live she probably needs the budget she probably needs to come on the show or go to one of his one of his sessions she's not open to that well okay he would he would love to no that's actually great that's actually great to know if she's not open to it then she is not provided this if she's not willing to take the actions or the steps then what you're doing is just enabling enabling her around and not ever having to learn she's going to be 40 and doing this so no if she's not taking the steps willing to take the steps to improve her life you are not giving her money and i think at the end of this uh we need to give her a call and tell her to off oh yeah and grow up for the first time in her life yeah i i legitimately want to do everything you can for your kids i agree and you should do things that benefit her this is not benefiting her again you're just allowing her to be irresponsible the fact that she's not even willing to go to one of those sessions is pretty much unacceptable yeah well she has told me in the past that she just wants to she wants to live her life she doesn't want to have to work a second job and she you know wants to be able to go and do fun stuff yeah welcome to the real world girl yeah yeah you gotta work for your okay you're not entitled to nothing i mean you can give her whatever if you want her to be a spoiled brat her whole life she can be yeah no if that's what you want i don't oh okay then i think we're gonna be like me so you know with finances yeah or were you spoiled um my mom helped me you know not is this help though well no she's been okay yeah but no i mean my mom my mom helped me and she helped with the kids school and things like that is she in school uh no she's not in school now she graduated she might not even need a second job How much does she make?
15:50I think$50. She's probably relatively okay. Young adult already in the 50s. Like, you know, she's on her way. No, she's just being spoiled. Yeah. She's probably going in there, getting some delicious Target scones. I love them. But mama doesn't need to be paying for them, especially when you owe money to the IRS. and this next credit card balance is at$22 ,986.45 and you can't pay it off for the life of you. I don't think we're giving our daughter infinite money. Agree or disagree? Agree. So we'll stop it. We'll stop it. What? I mean, I feel like I need to give her some notice. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.
16:35We're going to call her and I'm going to tell her to fuck off. There you go. That's her notice. Because that's not the only thing I pay for her. What do you pay? Her insurance, her car insurance. Okay. And she's on my phone plan. And how much is her car insurance? Her car insurance, I think it's$260 something a month. Those are a little different because that's taking care of a recurring bill. This is her spending. Right. So that's different. She's not spending the car insurance. So those I'm okay with a little more longevity to help her transition. Now, I still think maybe wean off if, again, you have really nice eyes, by the way.
17:10I just noticed that. Thank you. Great eyes. if she's not willing to go to a program to help her understand her finances and get her finances better that's where it's like the help that you're providing on that end i still don't even know if that's a help if she was actually struggling and we saw that her money was going to necessities and she can't get ahead that's where i'm like yeah mom if you want to step in step in that's great you know that's just a loving kind heart but if she's around I mean I'm sure she is it's Austin how can you not oh she lives here yeah and you know my son would love to help her but if you text your sister right now will she come in yeah she works right down the road so uh give her no context don't tell her what I'm gonna do well you can tell her it's the show but don't tell her what I'm gonna do I'm gonna tell her to off she's a little bit scary i can be scary all right so what what why do you have this 22 ,986.45 loan on a united mileage plus card um just spending vacations uh oh because you're talking about going on this trip with friends what what vacations what does your life look like around vacations um we we've done some we've done we try have in the past we've tried to do them around my work travel so like i had to go to amsterdam quite a bit for work um fully paid for by the company my part was fully paid for and then the kids and my husband would come out you know come out there they've been out there a couple of times um and we went to paris as well um i think it was just like for the first time in my life i was making really good money and i just had like no clue you know like i just You are making so much money and we could turn this into an incredible nest egg that it would be allowing you for probably multiple decades to be able to travel almost as much as you want if we did this properly.
19:10But now your entire existence is this pain off the past travel. Yeah. So the company pays for it usually for you. Do you immediately throw that towards the bill or do you then just spend that money? I might just spend it. yeah on what then another vacation or what no i mean not necessarily not necessarily vacations but just you know it could be it was a time when there was no second income or it could just be a time when i thought we needed something else or wanted to get something else well like yeah no there's a 112 minimum payment on here yes which is an insane minimum monthly payment still purchasing we're still purchasing it's basically at its limit sometimes i just need a little something huh sometimes i just need a little something 215 isn't little yeah i don't know what that is hold on are you actually willing to cut that you're giggling you're giggling like a storm no you didn't care it's embarrassing it's embarrassing i'm supposed to be a grown-up $550 of interest in a month.
20:23Balance barely went down, even though you put$809 towards it and it went down like$50. Yeah. And it's accruing interest. It takes 29 years to pay off, by the way. 29 years. All right, guys, let's talk about your budget or maybe the lack of it. If you're like most people, it's probably all over the place, right? Well, today's sponsor, Rocket Money, is here to save you from all the taquitos in your life. Rocket Money makes it easy to set up a custom budget that automatically tracks your spending by category. So no more, oops, I blew my entire grocery budget on snacks again. You'll know exactly where your money is going and how to stop throwing it away.
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21:41but 29 years to pay off is what this takes at the pace you're going actually not at the pace you're going you're never going to pay it off at the pace you're going because you just put more money on it yeah v mc cut co what is a cut co you don't know what cut co is now i know what that was no huh they're knives knives you don't have knives well i do now you didn't have knives Not really. What is that really? So one of my friends, her daughter is selling Cutco knives. She's trying money for college. Oh, for f***ing sake. I have such a hard time saying no. She's in a little pyramid knife scheme?
22:17Yes. Oh, my f***ing, you're supporting it? She's so nice. She's so sweet. Sounds like she needs a f***ing slap. So, yeah. So I bought knives. She's so sweet. She's able to be sold into getting into a knife pyramid scheme. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm not, you know. Yeah. So. maybe we should call her in too no I don't know her that well
22:42yeah I don't think he knows about that one because I just remembered about it about a week or so oh my dude I just don't understand what you're doing to yourself out of all things for money to go to on a card that we can't pay off that has accrued $4 ,741 of interest this year by the end of the year it's gonna be like 12 ,000 hours of interest 12 ,000 hours of interest 12 ,000 hours taken from you this year just because you refuse to stop spending on this card yeah I'll stop spending when there is when I hit the limit and that's what I do it's what I do forever since forever has that been your life forever for a while when do you think that started I did get them paid down some because we bought a house in 2022.
23:38So we did, you know, have to get it at a decent level. Only so you could qualify for a mortgage, not even to improve your life? Oh my goodness. I also sold my car so we could qualify for the mortgage. Where is that kind of energy now? Where is that fire under your ass now? You're not able to survive. five hopefully being you know separated and i feel like that's going to be my fire everything's everything's my own okay when was the separation three months ago okay nothing's happened your debt's only gone up so what the are you talking about no it has gone up because i had to i spent a ton to get into the place into the place what's your place what is the place into the townhouse so i mean i had to buy all new furniture had to we couldn't live without a couch for a second no i yeah no it was awful you know i had everything bought listen within a couple weeks you chose to separate i'm not saying it's an unjustified thing but you chose to you can live uncomfortably for a moment you didn't have to go right into life as perfect right i feel like i had already lived uncomfortably for so long okay listen You had to take some you're uncomfortable with.
24:53That's not even that. I'm sorry. Close your ears, son. Close my ears. Close my brain from that. I don't know where that came from. I apologize. It's probably just because I just know how much we have to go through. Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah. When I got my townhouse, I'm very much where my mom always had a place for the kids to come so when i moved i got three bedrooms your mom like my mom you know she always had a place for us if we ever had to come home for any reason you know like things didn't go well for us so now when i moved i got three bedrooms so i have a room for each of my kids in case they ever need at the same time well it might happen one can be on a couch she can sleep in the closet i don't like we can we can figure it out that's that's such a it's not coming from a bad place so it's not it doesn't like enrage me by any means it's like you're just putting yourself in a harder position for a good intention and a good heart i mean i like that that's that's wonderful but it doesn't work for you right now it just it's not necessarily an option how much is your current rent 25 50 oh oh it's expensive it's gross i could taste that one 28.24 interest on this i'm sorry i said it's gonna be 12 000 in interest by the year end i it was 4 741 so far it's probably gonna be closer to like 6 000 by the year's end i'm just back hard are you feeling like guilt or anything from like this separation like is is the taking care of your kid making sure you have the rooms so it's driven by like a guilt um no i mean i don't feel guilty for separating but i do feel guilty if i can't do the things for my kids that i've always tried to do how many kids do you have just two are they from him no he was my second husband no so they don't give a well he was around a long time but okay it's uh okay guilty that you can't give things you want to provide it sounds like you've taken them to europe multiple times it's more than most people can say it is so what so what are you on about what have you not been able to provide it's it's just a mental you're funding her existence right now and dude over there seems to be doing pretty okay if he's teaching a financial peace class yeah he's doing great so what guilt i don't know i mean i can't tell you where it comes from i just what do you feel you've not provided though i don't know okay i really don't know i just i might want to talk to a therapist about that one i do i start that on the 11th oh good good good i like that yeah oh and then also grace fellowship united 20 bucks yeah i think i registered oh i registered for a course course what kind uh finance course where we looking what are you doing you get ours for free and ours isn't unlike all those cash grants out there we put like we put like three months into just deep research okay i think that was the story of the bible course is what it was so huh so it's not a finance no that one's not it's story it's story of the bible had to think about it with the cost so can't you just read it it's better if if if our pastor is telling it to us that's kind of free most of the time it is they do have you know different classes and things that they offer that you can go to and and since separating i've just kind of thrown myself into it so for community uh yeah for community and just learning learning more um learning more about you know the bible and trying to be you know a better person well obviously you'll get access to our uh budgeting program and our investing program uh great you'll get those for free so you don't have to spend money on those but i need uh let's not spend any more money on courses just courses in general just because it's so hard to vet what is good there are great things out there and i believe that like we've created good product and i'm very proud of them and people have gotten great results so there's also so much cash grab he's a part of a good program too your son over there but there are lots of just cash grabs out there i just don't want you to fall for that when you don't have money right now i think you can get a great return on investment from our stuff but But there's such a risk.
29:47I'd say like 95 % of the things out there that want you to get into their program. Right. Pedal. You're not a credit card person. You don't want to use credit cards. No, I don't. I need you to close it. Are you going to get another house? Do you want to own a home? At some point. I just don't know for sure where I want to settle. Okay. I'm okay with credit for a bit and then maintaining and trying to grow it once we have a bit more discipline. I just can't have you access to credit. You don't know how to manage it in any way possible. If anything, use a card like the Fizz card that's like, it's usually more geared towards college students, but like a charge card where you put the money on and you can only spend the money you put on.
30:28It's like a secured card? Yeah, 2000 but I mean, Pedal, I think, does Pedal have some of those options? What do you have with Pedal? I know they have weird things that's a that's a business card so it's a basic okay two thousand six hundred forty two dollars and ninety five cents okay with another chunky minimum monthly payment 105.38 we're still purchasing on here even though it's accruing 79 dollars interest and it's basically at the credit limit yeah uh they're all that way why
31:06it's a super eats no this is super eats it's what trips uber eats and uber trips what are the dates uh but volili settled on the 7th and 8th of now two months ago okay i was probably traveling for work why are you uber eats you to travel go downstairs get a donut oh is it uber eats or just uber there's an uber eats oh okay well yeah it was probably traveling probably just getting food sent in which i know it should have been reimbursed should have been are you saying it wasn't no i'm saying yeah i mean i'm sure i was reimbursed for it how do you know how good are you at tracking this you don't pay your taxes so well no i mean i just don't have quickbooks out in front of me so do you track well and extensively um yeah i mean then that doesn't equate with you not paying taxes then well it's the saving for the taxes the putting the 30 make it automatic okay 34.24 interest that's like the worst interest i've seen on a regular credit card that's insane i want that gone okay uh a contract some installment loan contract what is this 35.64 interest the is even higher than this last one what is this for oh my for f**k sake five thousand dollars borrowed but you're paying five thousand five hundred forty six in interest so double what you borrowed is being paid in interest what is this for federal truth in lending oh act sorry that's that's the bill for transparency it was for moving you make way too much money to have to borrow to move oh i was paying expenses you know to help you move huh i was paying expenses at two houses you make money great money maybe don't spend your $2 ,000 a month on bullshit.
33:17Yeah. How about we do that instead of borrowing away? I don't know. Losing double the money we're borrowing. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Ball, you're doing it. I just don't get it. Each payment will be$175. Is it once a month, twice a month? What does it look like? Once a month. Oh, that's never going to be paid off. It's never going to be paid off. I got to get on a budget so I can pay it off. i gotta pee okay i'll break it back i never have to be ready to get back into it ready so you just took this out then yeah in june i believe why did you take out like the highest interest rate loan you could find did you just search like how to my life.com um i think they just probably it's all based on my credit score i assume what's your credit score i don't know like 602 or something.
34:15I don't have late payments. Why couldn't family or friends help you move? I mean, I don't have many 50-year-old friends that are going to help me move. What about your kids? You know, one of them that you fund? Well, one of them was moving on the exact same day. This one was moving on the same day as me. Pick a different day! Well, yeah. What? I don't know. I just was easier to do for, you know, to hire movers. And that was also. Well, was it really? Because now you have$10 ,000 at 25 or whatever. Crazy interest rate. Yeah. So was it really easier? It felt like it at the time. Well, yeah, that's how.
35:00Yeah. You just you don't see the delayed consequences of any of your actions. You're just an in moment person. Yes. Which is really going to come back to bite everyone around you because you're not going to be able to take care of yourself. in retirement and that is not fair to others no that's not i worry about that oh here's the irs yeah you do worry i do worry about that i don't i don't want it you know to for my kids to have to but you do you've done no actions so how can you worry and do no actions i don't know because around is more important to you it's more important yeah i mean i guess at the time it seems like the right choice and a lot of it's doing stuff for others and but i don't need to i don't have to do stuff for others to you know make them like me but sometimes in the moment that's what it feels like to give i get it but you do it in a smart way you do it in a budgeted way you do it when you're not gonna die on the walmart floor in your 60s because you're just started to survive.
36:06Sorry, in your 80s. Yeah. Okay, IRS. 2021. Going all the way back to 2021. We're at the end of 2024 now. We're going back to the 2021. $23 ,000. $16 ,000 for 2020. No, we're going back to 2020. No, we're going back to 2019! Of$22 ,051! How? How are we going back five years? We've been paying, but we paid... Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Did you pay 2022? Did I pay 2020? No, I haven't filed 2022. Oh. Oh, good. Yeah. Does your tax person know that? Yes. And what do they say? Because I didn't have one at the time. Huh? Huh? When did you get one? Just recently. And? And they know that I need to file, so we're working on it.
36:59Working on it? What is working on it? Getting all the documentation and everything together. How are you going to file? How are you going to pay? What are you going to do? I'm just going to file and have to wait to pay. Is this, are you on a payment plan? I am. That's why 2018 was paid off. Oh, for sake. There was 2018. Yeah. Oh my good. What is the interest rate on this? I do not know. It's usually quite without looking. I really don't know. We're at$63 ,000 of unpaid taxes, but that's incorrect because you have two years, 2022, 2023 and we're gonna have 2024 of unpaid taxes probably gonna be like a hundred and twenty something thousand hours of unpaid taxes which is insane is the irs not like looked at you for these last couple years if you do you have no fear of an audit i mean the no file these last few years i don't i don't have a fear of audit because i i mean i actually do keep my books fairly well i didn't pay them but i do have accurate books and records you know so i'm not worried about the audit but i do worry about them you know coming after me but that's why we've been paying them but you haven't filed for right no i know two years so i know what yeah so what do you mean we've been paying them we're not paying them we're not filing well we're on a payment plan with them for the ones you have filed right yes not for the current ones what's your payment monthly 750 i'm gonna die i pay half of that x pays the other half who who oh yeah so what you You guys are in the business together?
38:32Oh, did you guys not file? No, but it's the personal tax. Yes, yes, yes. And you guys would have filed jointly and did file jointly? We did file jointly. And we'll probably file jointly this year. You neither paid together jointly? Yeah. Is he making his payment? Yes. Does the IRS know if he doesn't, it's on him? Or is it like, uh-oh, you're doing it and you guys have just agreed that you're going to split it? Right now, it's that we've agreed. Hi, I'm here to pick up my son Milo. There's no Milo here. Who picked up my son from school? Streaming only on Peacock. I'm going to need the name of everyone that could have a connection.
39:14You don't understand. It was just the five of us. So this was all planned. What are you going to do? I will do whatever it takes to get my son back. I honestly didn't see this coming. These nice people killing each other. All Her Fault. a new series streaming now only on peacock will be in the papers it will be in the what do you mean it'll be in the oh yeah yeah it'll be when's that uh is this a long general process right now are you guys because we don't have assets together we don't have joint credit other than irs the house that we were living in was his parents house um we but you bought you said we did we built a house in 2022 um we built it yeah it was 20 20 21 or 22 i can't remember but one of those we built it um and then his mom passed my mom passed the same year and then um we had to take care of his dad and so his dad has a brain injury um and we were going to sell his house their house um and we decided our payment just kept going up and up and up property taxes yeah reclaiming homestead yes We were claiming homestead, but I think that they just, you know how when you're buying it, they figure out what your escrow and everything is supposed to be, but they do it on unfinished property, but then they need to do it on fire.
40:29Oh, I see what you're talking about. Our house payment went from$2 ,500 to over$4 ,000. Yeah. So we looked at it. We sold our house. We actually made a profit in just the two-year time that we lived there. Yeah. But the house that we moved into is still in his parents' name. so I mean it's not it's not mine but the profit that we made from our house together went into that house so no you guys put that money into the house you didn't own now legitimately guys I believe that you everyone in your life everyone around us can actually take control of their financial future and make their lives better and we've spent over a year here creating tools to help make those goals a reality.
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He's on social security and so we had to pay him back what was the uncle making pay why not get it under the uncle's name then the title or at least get him on it because again what happens when it was what's in his will and he doesn't have a will neither of his parents had one does he have any kind of anything set up okay i mean he has power of attorney over him so i mean who does uh my ex has it over his dad because he's disabled but that'll create drama when the uncle's been paying for well we paid him that's why we got everything caught up so that was where the the money went to because we were going to sell the house and then pay him because the house has about 400 000 in equity well is the dad living there still no the dad's in assisted living if he has power of attorney do you guys have an okay relationship in terms of yeah doing things yeah okay let's get the pop then to sell the home and if you guys are in a good relationship of communicating with each other try to at least get what would have been half of what you got from selling the previous house we're just trying to get your part of the money out of it it's a very weird situation yeah but if they're willing to do that we need to get what how much was the profit how much did you yeah uh about i think between 70 and 80 okay yeah if we could get you about 30 to 40 yeah but i don't mean that goes a lot towards that big way towards the end of taxes he won't sell that house who who who uh well my my ex or and his dad his dad can't make a decision to sell it because he he i mean he's got major uh it's aphasia i guess so he can't remember it but your ex won't i don't think so i mean he's paying only 1700 a month to live there and it's a 600 000 house so willing to get any cash out of it i don't know if he can give you the 40 000 well yeah yeah but is he willing to do that and then just give you that money maybe he did mention it he did yes he actually because this seems right because you guys should not have put money in the house to be very clear yeah well it was either that or we'd have to sell it so we had to at the time well we were gonna sell it and that's why we decided to move in instead because the house payment was lower and it had more equity in it than ours you still shouldn't have put money into it like that without you being you guys being on the title right right oh for sake what is this what is this what am i looking at a monthly payment of 746 for what my car your payments are all over 100 so far this is insane i don't know how you're surviving you're not that makes sense oh it's a lease you have a lease yes for how long when's it done 13 months 13 from now yes it may be 12 now oh what's gonna what's the value of the car by the time it's done what does it say i don't what's the bait what's the buy uh i think i bought it for between 40 and 45 no no what what okay what when the car is done what does it say that you can buy it at oh i think right now it's like 37 when i looked at it like if i just wanted to buy my buy out of it it was 37 well a full so you're talking about buying out the lease and the full purchase of the car yeah i would love to not have that payment but what are you gonna do when the lease is done in a year um try and hopefully i'll be in a better place and i can just buy something cheap my son's a mechanic so he's kind of on the lookout for something uh-huh so he's been kind of on the lookout for something 746 dollar a month payment this is insane yeah this is insane so far uh what i just i don't understand the things i am looking at so this is another lease what is this remaining early purchase amount what am i looking at um that was uh that was for that was part of getting all the furniture for the house for the new house yep because i didn't have the cash of course so maybe we don't get it let that be a new rule going forward if you can't afford to get it don't get it you're not gonna die putting a mattress on a floor for a couple weeks right when you slowly build up again you guys made the choice to do the separation now you have to deal with the reality of it as well benefits and negatives right yeah you're not i mean you're making it happen but just borrowing it and your minimum payments are insane so what wait it's a 247.62 a month payment or something uh wait it's rent to own stuff you're doing no it's not i don't i don't what is this what is this what am i seeing how much is left uh i don't know i don't know if it says remaining early purchase only 600 yeah if i pay it off early it's 600 if i wait i think uh my son and i looked at this if i wait yeah when does the early option end oh september 23rd oh just missed it is this done though did you pay it off no oh now the current balance is 2058 oh my good do we know what the current payment is is it the same uh yeah the payment's the same why would you do this to yourself why would you do this to yourself why would you not pay that 600 i didn't have it at the time you spent 1500 on just absolute nothing things that didn't matter in any way what do you mean yes you did have it i didn't have it in my account at the moment to pay it i should yeah oh this is this is definitely a situation gosh these companies make so much money let me tell you yeah and you just you just allow them to milk you gosh one of the items on here's an umbrella?
47:49An umbrella? Not that kind of umbrella. You needed that to survive. No, I did not need it to survive. Then sell it. Yeah, that's what my son's been telling me. Sell the stuff. You're going to need to sell everything. Yeah. Oh my gosh, this is my you know sell everything let's sell everything oh good death there it is there it is there it is oh wait is this is this what i was looking at is this what i was looking at is this the same thing or is this different is this different is akima different is it different than i think that does it say that oh it's part of the same thing i thought you had another thing oh my oh my okay Oh my goodness
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48:49You're 50 Yes Why are you in debt for TikTok shop Because if I can pay it out It just is better I just want to pay it out What is pay it out Like pay it out over time You can't your minimum payments are stacked up Everything is so stacked Pay out over time is worse for you TikTok shop? That's for brain right young. What are you doing on TikTok? I can be on TikTok. Stop. Why write your brain? I need TikTok. Just for brainless scrolling. Clearly brainless. Oh, good. But you're on there spending money. Not that much. Girl, you're affirming it. This isn't even a firm. It is. You're affirming it. But that's for lots of different things.
49:42But TikTok shop is some of it. It is some of it. $282 ,000 in minimum monthly payments for a firm. You can't have a reasonable minimum monthly payment to save your life. I cannot disagree. Yet you do it. I don't know if the behavior, the change in your behavior is such a monumental shift that would be required to get you out of this. That is a bigger shift than I've ever seen. plus so matured in life it's different than a 25 year old changing what he's been doing for the last seven years you're doing this what you've been doing the last multiple multiple multiple decades you're right i like i don't know how you're gonna i can do it i can do it okay i don't want to bring down the room but with what optimism there is nothing to suggest that you possibly can I would love to hear why because I it's a new oh good it's a new time all right
50:49we all know that just like end of year you know new year's goals always work people definitely don't fall off in the first month I'm gonna have to calculate all the affirm stuff in the end because this is so much we have 1840 orthopedic bull bull Amazon you Amazon what are you buying on Amazon I don't know that's the bad part is that let me see your phone let me see that Amazon app let me see let me take a little sneaky sneaky he's got it okay so total of firm balances which I'm gonna kill myself from I think it's the 1840 that's up there that wasn't it's 18 40 19 and the minimum payment is what 282 absolutely ruined my entire life and you're gonna keep growing it you're gonna keep growing it so this is gonna become bigger let's see clarna oh good clarna we're getting them all we're getting them all i swear who knew there were i swear if i just had no morals or emotions i swear should have just started a company like this, anyone will sign up for them.
52:00Anyone can start one of these companies today because anyone will sign up with them. The moment you're out of these little microloans that you're able to take out, you will find the next one. There's an infinite loop of these. Just start one, put a predatory interest rate on it. Gosh, billionaire overnight. Everyone will just borrow endless money. But it's disgusting. I would never offer. This is crazy. internet's not working i don't think so i don't know if it's i'll get you on wi-fi okay i thought i was on there oh my gosh you're on snapchat too i'm yes impressed and terrified am as on can i do a screen recording we'll bleep anything private yeah oh my you're getting and you're getting a million emails i'm putting it on sleep mode i had it on do not disturb but oh my gosh you're getting like 50 like things that wear to your body what are they i don't even know for a wedding that's coming up what you have to have three no i'm gonna send back the ones that don't work i got underwear and power strips and under dust things multiple dresses a teapot very needed to survive dog bark deterrent yes you haven't met my daughter's dog your daughter's dog this isn't even like just a horrendous neighbor that doesn't know how to control their dogs no this is my daughter how does this impact you stop I know is it just barking all day every day he barks a lot a lot Chowini Oh, gross.
53:48No, I love them and probably give them a lot of pets, but you're right. They do just bark. I can picture it. More dox and then, yeah. Just picture the root powder extract. Not trying to out your whole existence right now. You get so many things to wear. You're wearing everything. But I get a lot and then I send it back. Okay, well, a lot of these were. I kept the one dressed. I mean, some of these are in August and I didn't see anything returned yet. No? I saw one thing returned. It was a book. Oh. you also get
54:20holy hold on son close your ears what are we doing in here what's going on looks like I have some books to read what are we learning about it's for one of the classes that I'm in at church Christopher Yon what are you writing about you naughty little guy no it's not that kind of book it's a jesus book the word is in the title it is but it's also got holy in there so where do you think you're not that's what it's for though it really is it's for a class i am addicted to books okay libraries yes you live in a large town yeah you just you get books and you get clothes and it's books and clothes and books and clothes books and clothes um so yeah maybe we're not doing all that because you got libraries you got things i actually live just a mile from the library all right y 'all it's no secret gas prices groceries eating out it's all costing us more than it should but if you're like me you're tired of overpaying for essentials and that's where the sponsor of today's episode upside comes in you know those things we do every week, even every day for some of us?
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57:44I think some of them are paid off. They just list them all there. But Nike, yes. That was the most recent one. What's the minimum for Klarna? So it must be 310. You must be close to paying off other things really quickly. Ah, okay. Balance is on there. Some of your balance is in collections? Of what? An emergency visit? What is that? An emergency visit medical pill. Why? Why not pay? You make so much money. I have no idea why you're taking out bad debt for things and allowing things to go into collections. If we're doing smart leverage, I understand some things, but you make way too much money to be in 35 % debt for stupid things.
58:25and allowing things to go in collections. Yeah. When I get a house, you're not going to do that with collections. Right. So what? Why was this not paid? It's only$1 ,471, which is a lot of money. But again, you make a lot of money. Because I'm paying the minimum on everything else. That you chose to get into. None of this has been just for... The IRS exists because you went out and spent a bunch of money you don't have on fun. The moving things exist because you didn't have any merch. You're going to because you're spending all your money on fun. All that other stuff was just spending money on things you didn't need.
58:54furniture and fun and fun and fun and uber eats all that type of even when you get a reimbursement you then just go and spend it instead of putting it back in your cart so the only reason you have those minimum payments that mean you can't afford this so you guys are spending all your money on fun for someone who spends so much money on fun you think i would have more fun you probably have a ton of fun you don't know what it's like on the other side to not have the fun no because you're just living life dude it just doesn't feel like it well well do you probably just have an endless like cap you know you get used to every life you're living in after what like six months or so no matter what life you're living you get used to it no matter how bad and good it is it just becomes normal so you're always going to be chasing that extra high that extra fun i want my next high to be not having to i want it to be retirement yeah oh my good death this isn't people statistically some people yes a decent amount of people hold student loans into their 50s but you have so much and you're just a consultant consultant's a great job but i'm just mean like you're not a doctor or lawyer what's your degree um i have a master's and i have a bachelor so bachelor of arts master of jurisprudence from of what jurisprudence from loyola law okay so it is in the world of law it is but uh but those are those are not all just mine um when i was married the first time we consolidated our student loan debt oh good dad and of course he's on it and you're on it yes who's not making the payment then because there's two sets of student loans in here and guess what they're past due yes one of them is um both well you may have corrected one but at the time of this both oh i thought just nail net the other both of your nail nets oh there's a nail net and a sloan right yeah but yeah no Well, because they made them, they made Nelnet sell them.
1:00:48So they have personal, they have private. And, but yes. So part of that is my ex-husband's. And part of it is some that I took out for my daughter. Oh, for your daughter parent plus? Yes. For one semester.
1:01:04You know, I am either pro or anti, just depending on whatever. Was she working? Her, I think it was her senior year. And was she working? She was working some, yeah. she was she couldn't qualify for student loans she got one student loan she and that was the cap and that's just what she got she if she was gonna have to get student loans she wasn't gonna finish she because they saw she didn't want to get her own student loans oh my god then that doesn't mean you take out student loans you need she needs to eat some for a bit she really does she needs to learn what just what it you need to actually put into this world to get some like that's what's going to make her become a decent person in the world of all these economics yeah yeah so that's why the the student loans are crazy and i didn't know the one was behind until i went to print this out because they had been in forbearance and all the things from i i don't know because one of them's in forbearance because i'm waiting on the separation so they are going to let us separate consolidated loans that's coming up they're supposed to be passing that law so they regular minimum monthly payment on this alone was 858 but guess what we're past due by two yeah that's the one that my first husband pays half so half of that is his and half of and is he paying are you not paying where's the issue no it's both of us because i didn't know until i printed this out i didn't know about you know what do you mean they announced last fall 2023 that student loans were starting again no but they were still in still in forbearance because of the separating the spousal consolidation okay for how long i thought they were still and that's when they separated it so how i have two nail nuts one of them you can see it doesn't start until september 2025 and then the other ones this one's due well in 13 days the next payment yep so okay and i I don't know the interest rates.
1:02:58I didn't get that page. I think they're in the six to eight. Oh, to eight? I think. It's not even the good versions. Mine are in the threes. And I have now that. Wow. $134 ,621.62. We got official word from the daughter, by the way. We're going to give her a call in the post show because this one's already running long. and I legitimately don't know if we're halfway through the paperwork. So we're going to give the daughter a call on the pro show. She wasn't able to make it into the studio, but I'm going to give her the real deal. She can accept it or not, but she needs to. 99 cents. And then I need you to actually stick to it and not give in to wham-wham cry, daughter, or emotions and all those good things.
1:03:49And it's never even like that with her. She doesn't call and say, it's not even her calling saying, can I have some money? Sometimes. Sometimes it's that. But sometimes it's just, well, I don't have money for this or I don't have money for that. So in her defense, it's not always her asking. Sometimes I just take that step. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope is the new rule. Okay. Next on that. What the? what are you talking about wait is this just an old statement it says current due was in March of 2022 says current statement due date in March 2022. I consolidated them.
1:04:30Like I had a bunch of separate ones and we consolidated them. Do we even know what's happening? I'm still trying to figure that one out. That is the one that is showing now that it's in forbearance due to spousal debt separation. Oh, is that why the due date's later? Yeah, they're two separate accounts. One's federal and one's private. You have current amount dues. But it doesn't say, does it say current amount due? Yeah,$1 ,164. With a regular monthly payment of$582. Does it show past due? Yeah,$582. Okay, then I don't know about that one. My dude, what are we doing? Yeah. My absolute dude. I might, I'm going to send you to probably the advisors at Domain Money that we work with.
1:05:17It's going to take hours just to get knowledge in your situation. something that this show is good for many things. For something as extensive as this, we just simply don't have the time. My employees are going to want to go home around at least five to six. At this rate, we're going to be here till eight. There's a lot. The people over at Domain Money are great. They're great. Okay. We have their information in the description if you want to check them out first, but we can get you connected. Okay. I actually went through their whole process myself just out of curiosity and seeing what they thought about my situation.
1:05:50so okay okay so student one student two so this one's at 82 000 no no wait hold on actually this might be the same because this was the statement date of february 29 2024 did you send us an old statement as well that was the last statement that i had from nail net for the sloan because it's in forbearance so this is just an old statement and now it's in forbearance okay so 82 ,298 on this one but it's probably in forbearance this other one is live and up to date the first one we talked about okay venmo you owe money to venmo you have a venmo card venmo card you have every millennial and gen z product like you should be a paypal girlie yeah yeah um and that one's a business card too it's in the it's in i need to take google away from you you cannot have access to please get me debt because that's just all you do all day you wake up that's the first thing you type into your phone you're just like if you don't if you don't type that in you have to you have to like go into shock or something maybe take out a jet every day save your life because for benmo you have six thousand three hundred sixty four dollars and seventy seven cents this is insane how much did you actually have you have three hundred ninety six dollars of debt and none are an asset as far as i think because the least you don't even own oh my it's almost a half a million dollars in just death oh my good are you oh no this is i I want a path forward.
1:07:37I just don't know if we'll have it. $209. This is your minimum payment. 26.47 % interest rate. Wayfair. Why are we Wayfair? We have a Wayfair. Wayfair. Wayfair. Wayfair. There's shit.
1:07:58Wayfair. You really need every death that exists. Every death that exists. good good death good death oh it at least looks like this one's paid off usually usually so i'm not it's not huh what's the what's the balance what's the date oh good death i don't know i had purchases 131 um well i i went to chicago recently okay and uh notorious going to that town um i used that card for some things. How many of some things? It's only a thousand dollar limit so I know it wasn't more than that. So it's at a thousand? No, no. It was probably a five or six hundred dollars. Okay, six hundred dollars for Wayfair.
1:08:43Kill me now. It's at a$29 minimum monthly payment on here. It's probably higher now. I'm going to put 50. Good. Good. Jeez. Fees and interest this year so far so yeah, you don't always pay it off and it's 32 % interest. Home Depot! We're all suspending. You seem to be on 0 % plans here, but we have fees. Okay. $752.77. The minimum monthly payment of$29.75. Home Depot purchase$27. Seasonal garden. Great. We got a plant. We've had interest accruing. Hold on. Oh, okay. The interest... Deferred. do you even know what's happening on here yes what the deferred interest uh-huh and if i don't pay it off within a certain amount of time then all the interest is going to come up front or they're going to is going to come due yes i've got a couple like that i just don't understand why you do this to yourself expiration date oh in like three months
1:09:52okay barclays more purchases 118 dollars of purchases 13 dollars of interest accruing oh what thick stack week or whatever we're calling it is just this sucks man but the reality is who gives a shit about me going through paperwork this is like your actual life in i just i can't i how do you sleep uh do you sleep well no i don't stress yes stress worry all the things i i'm after going through what we went through when my uh husband's mom died she had none it was like this and i don't i don't want my kids to go through that like i don't want to leave a mess for them how's your health good do you smoke no good lad it's a rarity for this show unfortunately 538 dollars to 72 cents is owed on here purchases interest 25 29 minimum payment two years to pay off the way you're doing it local table you went to a restaurant yeah 118 dollars at a restaurant just it's like we don't care we don't give a if you actually want that for your kids and put in some work it's time to grow up amazon great 926.22 minimum repayment 35 on these barclay cards what they do every month is they'll lower the credit limit which i get that what they're doing but they're just screwing my credit score even worse i don't give a fuck by doing that but every month they lower it by like 25 or 50 that's probably good for you yeah it's probably not a bad thing you you don't know how to spend you don't we also might connect you with the people at relief app as well to see what they can get for any kind of debt negotiation it's another one of our partner uh partners in our resources section it's like because you that might be your only option it's like either we have debt negotiation we have bankruptcy or we're just yeah what are your thoughts on bankruptcy i i don't know if that's where we are but what are your thoughts on it four hundred thousand dollars of bad debt without any assets as far as I know yet.
1:12:08What are your thoughts on bankruptcy? Well, a lot of that too would be student loans, so we couldn't put that through bankruptcy anyway. You're right. Right? The chances, it's so minimal. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't have a problem with it. My credit's already, you know, screwed. If I'm going to buy a house, it's going to be several years from now. So if I got to do that, but if I can pay it off, if I can figure out a way to pay it off, then let's do it. You have a carnival card. Like the cruise ship carnival card. Yes. I've never seen that in my life. And I've had some crazy finances on the show.
1:12:46Yeah. I've had that one for a while. Good. Oh, good. That one's a. It's at$4 ,447.52. minimum monthly payment of$118.61 this is insane this is insane interest charge$73 17 years to pay off
1:13:14$700 in interest this year so far I mean you've easily had over$10 ,000 maybe$15 ,000 of interest accrue across everything this year so far you had to have especially if you equate in the fees with the lease that was baked in from the beginning good death her bnh why do you have a bnh card um for when i started i don't even have a bnh card and this is like the company that should yeah well because it's also for like printers anything that i need like for work they're a few hundred dollars yeah that's what it's for though that's but usually with that one i don't usually pay interest they're almost i think always deferred interest and I do pay that one off at time.
1:13:59Every time? How many times? 35.99 % interest right by the way. No, I mean I don't use it regularly. Plan expires in four months. Are you going to do that? Are you going to be able to pay it all off? It's, yeah. I mean I should be able to. Okay. I'm going to break it down in four. It's fucking like confetti. So you can make$135.75 towards it on a monthly basis. Well, we'll see. I mean I should be able to. so it's required if you're going to do it oh I need to get your son in here on the post show see his assessment on this situation since he's a part of the Ramsey side of things and we need to call your daughter you cannot be sending her any money just because now you can't afford it you're doing her even more of a disservice because you cannot afford it and she's going to have to take care of you so it's like now it's just completely different I mean this is just stacked so beyond Capital One's business $1 ,443.53.
1:15:00Minimum monthly payment of$52. Interest$37. 15 years of payoff. All these take multiple decades. 29.24 % interest rate. $336 of interest accrued. Okay. Back to Capital One again. Capital One OG. $3 ,406.91. minimum monthly payment$116 who please guys if we can start adding up these minimum monthly payments because it's going to take me a year to add at the end $82 of interest accruing
1:15:39interest this year so far at a 28.15 % interest rate let's see$663 the money you just lose you just lose so much money because of your impulsiveness capital one so this is a quick silver Do you have an addiction to Capital One? Is that our new partner? No, it's my bank. $2 ,637.10. $93 minimum payment. $64 of interest accruing. $464 of interest this year so far. 28.15 % interest rate. Carewell? The f*** is a Carewell? Care card. care credit care credit yeah yeah okay so medical stuff why don't you get a payment plan to like the hospital or is this to the insurance was it in to the insurance um no it wasn't to the insurance it's it's been there forever but it was i don't know if the hospital offered it i mean i guess there's always a way to make money three thousand eight hundred thirty nine dollars $12.12 is the balance.
1:16:48$80 of interest accruing. $140 minimum payment. Takes 14 years to pay off. Oh my good. Hold on. There's a promotional balance. Okay. Until paid off. Which has locked you in at 18.9 % interest rate. Oh no. Most of it's at 26.99. Never mind. $941 in interest paid this year so far. $1 ,000 on this alone. Chase Inc. we got one of those oh my well you do it the wrong way yeah 17 217 dollars and 49 cents yeah they'll give you big balances big limits you got a limit of 19 000 we got a limit of i think like 90 i just opened it the other week but we don't uh obviously i'm a credit card person right disciplined but just seeing you with this is like so that scares me yeah they gave me both of those chase cards at around the same time.
1:17:44They're not gave them to me. Obviously, I applied for them, but I was very surprised myself. $562 minimum payment. Interest accruing of$390. I just wanted to wake up today. Wake up. Come into work. Get AC installed in a new room because it just doesn't warm. They couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. They're not going to... He told me I'd hear back by the end of the day to see if they could actually come back because they figured it out. I haven't heard anything. The dogs at the vet. And that's just been chaos. I, uh, lunch. I just ate an apple because I'm trying to survive. I just wanted to go watch the vice presidential debate tonight.
1:18:26Get a little bit of food. Maybe even spoil myself with a massage because it's been a stressful few weeks. You know, maybe these few things and go to the vet visit pair. Oh, I had to do all these things. And we come in here. we come in here we do all this this is stacks of paperwork and we're not what are we two-thirds of the way through maybe maybe two-thirds of the way through hmm what have you done to me you've just you've assaulted me with paper you've destroyed the amazon rainforest now to be fair i didn't destroy the amazon you sent it girl and digital you got in that debt yeah no I'll have to keep from crying but I don't think it's funny interest charges here so far on this card alone 3 ,176 3 ,176 3 ,176 ink
1:19:28this is your version of tattoos the ink card and all the interest accruing on there yeah that's my scary ink it's just like your prison teardrop is all this all right city double cash i love the city double cash city double cash is great of course you're probably not utilizing it correct oh yep correct who would have thought okay balance two thousand six hundred eighty three dollars and forty three cents the minimum monthly payment of a ninety four dollars and eighty one cents six seven of interest is accruing. 17 years to pay off. Interest is here so far? No idea, but probably a ton. I don't have a second page.
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1:22:27averages out to basically a thousand fifty one dollars a month taking all the weeks in the year it's been an hour and a half no it has yes okay so anywhere from 3039 to 6308 just depending when you pay it off i mean this is crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy because it's at a billion percent interest rate a kohl's card sure throw it in throw it in i two two thousand seven hundred thirty one dollars ninety five dollar minimum payment interest sixty eight dollars that all the interest rates for basically five hundred dollars in interest recruited this year so far a living spaces card Yeah.
1:23:15Because you filled every inch of your house. Well, no, that was the other house. So I'm still paying on it. Furniture that I don't have. With interest? Most of these places are like interest-free cards and shit. Oh, no, they did it. And then all of a sudden I'm over the limit now because all the interest came up. Yep. $162 minimum payment balance of$4 ,402.61. Stop it. Stop it. $17. Sorry, 17 years to pay off. Interest rate of 30%. Probably interest accrued this year so far a million. Who even knows? I don't have the page. Oh, yes, I do. $2 ,000. Yeah. Yeah. The deferred interest payment. So what have we lost?
1:23:58$20 ,000 in interest this year so far? $20 ,000 that you could have had. You could have had. Gone. Oh, my gosh. I just got the number for your minimum monthly payments. And it's a first. has to be a first that it is that high that does not include a mortgage
1:24:20oh that's the same why do i see mercedes-benz that's the lease that's the one we've already went over yes 746 yeah thanks get us there closer nordstrom don't go into a nordstrom you can't afford it it's the anniversary sale i'll copy what this guy's program says the only time you say the inside of a north sum is with your work in there okay okay yeah balance two thousand seventy dollars and ninety six cents entrances accruing fifty six dollars and seventy seven dollars of minimum monthly payments nine years to pay off
1:25:0831.15 % interest rate. Basically$500 interest this year so far. You know, for what it's worth, this is what most people come in here with. This. That's not even a joke.
1:25:30so i came to the right place i don't know i don't know you can help me dude i the s i have faith in you that's not about me it's your situation i yes i can we can get you to cut you cut you cut you cut back all the way we can get you i don't know what we need to figure out your budget at the end where your expenses are who knows if there's things that paypal credit oh what do you owe you just refuse to owe a little bit of money two thousand seven hundred thirty nine dollars always basically at the credit limit minimum payment in ninety seven dollars i'm gonna i want to punch seventy dollars in an instance of interest we've had fees this year almost a thousand dollars in interest this year so far on here alone at a 29.24 % interest rate.
1:26:23A-my-goodness. Q-card? What is the Q-card? Again, brand new cards. I swear, you just sh***** new cards that have never been seen. No, that's QVC. Q-V-C? I'm old. It's obligatory. But you are a generational debt. You have all the new debt and all the old debt. I'm like Lori from Shark Tank. I don't know Going into debt for her Listen 30 years ago I would have gone into debt for her I don't know Lori from Shark Tank That's okay Q card The minimum What am I even saying $1 ,298.13 Is your balance Minimum to pay on a$50 L-O-R-I Lori She's the one that did like Scrub Daddy oh okay she did the scrub daddy deal okay um okay love that show
1:27:2736 hours of interest for crying uh eight years to pay off 32.24 interest rate interest this year so far 233 oh whoa that was the end of the debt unless is there more debts that i have not talked about i think we're missing one oh good what is it um i recently had to do a loan because i had to travel for work you said it gets paid for it does but not ahead of time and then you never pay it off anyway you just spend it on you um anyway so i guess it was like a payday loan is basically what it worked out you are at 50 making 180 so you're taking out a payday loan in what world what tell me i freaked out because i wasn't going to be able to do the trip for them and i was worried i would lose the client so yeah i don't i don't know where that one is what what what is it uh it was 6 800 and with all the interest and everything else it's going to end up costing me like 10 something i owe 4 200 on it currently 128 a day in payments or interest in payments 120 except for on the weekends it's almost $2 ,500 a month.
1:28:45That's just... What's the parents? $4 ,200. But it's going to be much higher? No, no, no. In total paid. You have to pay it. Yeah, you have to pay it. Even if you pay it off early, you couldn't pay it off for cheaper. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I owe$4 ,200 on it. I think I have about 90 days left. Oh, my gosh. Maybe. No, not 90 days. Probably 45 days. You have every loan that has been invented besides the, like, the little shark guy, the loan shark. You have every loan but the loan shark. Unless what's the loan shark loan? You must have one. No, I don't think so. You capture every loan that exists like they're Pokemon.
1:29:37No, I think just the payday loan was the worst one. I'm so scared for you. Yeah. Did we, is that including out in the minimum monthly payments? $2 ,500. It's$128.35 a day except for on weekends. Yep. This is so. What have you done to your life? I'm sorry. I don't mean that as like an insult. I'm like, just like, what have you done? Oh, my gosh. I wonder what he is thinking. Oh, I cannot wait to get a sauce in the post show. If you were my mom, my heart would be, I don't even know. This is almost like tragedy levels. Yeah. I don't even know if you know how bad this is. No, I know. Do you? Look at your spending.
1:30:30We're about to go through your spending. If you knew how bad it was, you're selling money. You're selling money. door dashing jack's flight clubs world market hula car wash chicken and pickle klarna tiktok shopping great academy sports car wash you're gonna do car wash every second of your life baskin robbins amazon amazon agrocom being fetch tiktok shopping amazon and nike and amazon and amazon and nail spa getting in our nails did high and single ready to
1:31:06mcdonald's well that was my daughter she also has my doordash account no no no no no she does not no she does not tiktok shop amazon no she does not you don't have money to survive you're taking out payday loans you're taking out payday loans your daughter does not have access to a credit a card of yours nor does she have access to a door dash nor are you paying for her car insurance she can be a grown adult who makes an adult salary a good out of college salary and she could be a adult airport spending zillion money out courtyard courtyard amazon amazon wayfair amazon bahama mama smoke shop
1:31:51what is that uh gummies to help me sleep have you talked to a doctor um no not well i mean you might be treating something you don't know yeah no no i mean i have talked to a doctor in the past for the sleep stuff but nothing's really ever helped your mom's a druggy i learned from the best kids where you think i learned about that stuff it's okay i'm pretty sure half my employees basically do like amazon freddie's amazon amazon nudes amazon just because you're sending a lot of hot young dads fresh nudes now that you're single doesn't mean you need to be going into nudes and spending$42.65. Zellin' on money, Zellin' on money, Netflix, Hulu, Hulu, Karn, TikTok Shop, and QVC Payment, and Pooh the Rescue, Nike, Rock and Roll at Peak Road.
1:33:00I think those are the joint one is not. Good, our Capital One Pink. Ending balance, negative. Yeah, I don't know which account it is, but that's definitely possible. I don't know, but you went to Red Oak Kitchen, but you're negative in there. Okay, that one is actually my ex's account. Nope, he took the joint accounts off. I don't know what Red Oak Kitchen is. He knew you were going to say that because he preemptively typed it and highlighted it red. He knew you were going to say that. No, I really don't, though, but I believe you. Red Oak Kitchen. I believe him and all the he smokes on a daily basis yeah overdraft fees I don't think we're surprised oh but don't worry guys we have a dollar in weeble the world is saved retirement oh it's happening $131 and so far you know I love it and then$35 ,000 in our retirement account what do we want you to be at at this point your yearly income probably like over a million just based on your income specifically and the good thing i would say the good thing about the good thing about my income is that i can i mean there are months when it's better like this month i made it doesn't matter if you don't set any money aside for taxes right i know this so do you know but you don't do it well i know so do you say for taxes first do you start paying off the debt for irs comes first irs be scary.
1:34:33IRS can come f*** you. Alright. Okie dokes. Yep. Okie dokes. I have a pen. Somewhere.
1:34:46It is scattered in the mirage of insanity that this is.
1:34:55I don't know what happened to it. I assume if I throw this I will hear a thud of a pen at some point. I found it. Your rent was what again? $25.50. If she needs to get another job, your daughter, I will be nice for one thing because you guys already got your shit figured out. I will gift her a course career certification if she wants to go on there, take their quiz, figure out what's best for her, for what different side jobs and stuff. She can get certified in something. She can go make more money if money is her problem. Say your rent again. $25.50. Is that including utilities? No. How much for all utilities, including internet?
1:35:39I'd say probably$120 for electric,$30 for gas. Internet is$71. And water is about$80. $301. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive. Just you. uh i think we came i think we looked and said like maybe 250 car insurance if it was just you well i have them separate so okay what's your car insurance is 292 how much is hers 263 fun fact your debt minimum payments uh eight thousand two hundred twenty one dollars three hundred dollars for groceries follow our meal plan tweak it to your needs hundred dollars for tp fun this is anything else you need nails all the good stuff okay gym are we gyming medical any ongoing medical expenses on a monthly basis uh i mean i have a prescription but i actually just got a call on the way up here i because i had a bunch of biopsies done because i have basal cell all the cancer stuff um so you said you're healthy i am healthy but i do have to get my skin i get my skin checks okay yes so but and i just went it had been two years since i'd been And so I have to go have a procedure and I know it's going to be, even with insurance, probably a couple thousand dollars.
1:36:57Okay, but no ongoing medical bills? No, ongoing. It's$10 a month for a prescription. Phone bill if it was just you? Because it's about to be. If it was just me, I don't know, maybe$150? Do you own your phone or do you owe on it? Oh, I owe on mine and on hers. when you're done switch to helium to 15 bucks a month I think same tower as T-Mobile saves you money but you have the phone so you said like 150 you need to pay it off first I know they have something like a special application that you can win where they'll pay off your phone but pets do you have pets? how many? one he is a black lab pet insurance no i don't have pet insurance get it okay guess what would you like to guess how much my vet bill has been at the emergency vet for these last couple weeks five to ten thousand thirty oh my god get pet insurance you can't afford it you can't afford it okay i can't afford it i will hopefully find out soon okay but if i did not have pet insurance that's a lot of money yeah luckily pet insurance helps a lot does it oh yeah okay good i'm putting 25 bucks in there for I think.
1:38:15How much for dog food? 70. Yes. Our furry pets are expensive and they love to do dumb stuff. She had a little part of a toy. Little part of a toy. It's all it was. It's all it takes. Boom. $30 ,000 if you don't have pet insurance. Oh my gosh. Yep. So do it. Luckily the vets have been incredible and everything. So. Yeah. But still. You never know what they're going to do. And you're not just going to let them. No. suffer so no i know it happened with my daughter's dog exactly so have the money or be just prepared anything else i need to put in your life um ongoing we got car insurance uh obviously future taxes yeah um because you will have to file for the last couple years and this year there's a i mean i know there's a couple of subscriptions that i have for work like adobe and there's okay well you can write those off those yeah don't worry about those i think adobe and quick what are your business expenses yeah how much my business expenses are low okay what um i mean 100 bucks a month i mean cool i'll minus that i mean not deducting you know like internet and all so you make about 10 500 after you set aside money for taxes i'm gonna say after business expenses you make about 10 000 okay um let's see how much you need to survive i think we're about to quickly find out why you are not paying taxes you say i can help you there's is just a math reality and we've already surpassed the math reality fun fact as you probably already knew and that's not something i can solve with a magic wand it is going to be a few options that you can do and this is without you giving her anything by the way oh there's also tithing sorry i do that's on there that's 400 a month okay well fun fact i mean without that it costs 12 267 to 12 269 dollars to live save money for taxes you can't and even if you're not saving money for taxes you barely can so you're not yeah uh the tithing thing isn't isn't that all isn't it more about if you can like you can't your payments exceed what you have tithing is supposed to come first first their first 10 i'm not doing my 10 so the tithing is i'm not doing 10 because that would be i mean thousand bucks a month what did it say in the textbook did it say did it read it did it say if you could afford it no i i it's my understanding and is that you do that first so if you end up going wrong if you end up going bankrupt god will provide for me okay i guess that's the thumbs up so go bankrupt but i will once this well let me say this once the the payday loan is paid off that's gonna open that's gonna make a big difference i know that was no you're still gonna be behind by uh uh that's 2500 a month yeah you're gonna still be behind by five thousand dollars it's better sorry sorry sorry three thousand dollars yeah but that should help you're gonna be behind by three thousand dollars means you need to go make an extra practically $5 ,500 because you're going to have to set money aside for taxes.
1:41:49So that's your solution is just to break even. You need to go make an extra $5 ,500 now. Actually, about $7 ,000 now because of the payday loan. You need to go make that extra money and set aside money for taxes. That's the immediate action. Or, honestly, the more realistic, dude, we went through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 deaths. 1 through 31 deaths. None of them small. Only one under 1 ,000. Now, there's a four under 1 ,000. Five. Five under 1 ,000. Everything else is over 1 ,000. Many over 10 ,000. Yeah.
1:42:40So like today. And then include the tithing. And you pretty much have to go make an extra$6 ,000 regardless of the payday loan. $6 ,000. Oh. And I do have one client, and I know this irritates him, that I haven't billed in several. Bill. Billed in several months. Bill. I know. How much? I'm going to guess that they probably owe me about$15 ,000 by now. Bill. Yeah. I wish that even made a dent in your situation. You owe$400 ,000 in bad debt. None of it's good. it's not a single dent in here that's good no why haven't you built them um i just their billing system and i've gotten used to there's no excuse really i mean i just haven't done it i i've they're a new client and so i've had these others for so long that i'm like this is what i'm used to making i just need to do it it's been just going in and doing it if we're gonna do the timing thing which i uh just okay okay you know that's just a part of you and your life that's not something like a credit card or something it's not something that we can just take away that is a part of you um it's it would be impossible you know for me to have a real estate conversation around that you need to go make the extra money if you're going to tie 500 a month you need to go make an extra 500 a month it's as easy as that okay okay okay no you're just gonna have to go make it and I got like today I had an extra project this month so I had an extra$7 ,000 this month which is great but that needs to be every month basically a minimum because that needs to be every month at a minimum after setting money aside for taxes that's still only going to put like what an extra$1 ,500 towards taxes okay cool or an extra$1 ,500 towards our debt because I was only trying to get you to break even so okay cool cool cool an extra$1 ,500 towards our debt let's see let's just do a little math It takes you 266 and a half months to pay off your debt in that case.
1:44:36Okay, that takes 22 years, and that's without contributing to retirement. So all of a sudden that gets us to 72, and we have basically no retirement. But at least we're debt-free finally. Like that can't be an option. No. I think it's bankruptcy. Yeah. I think it's bankruptcy. It's bankruptcy or your business essentially doubles. yeah and there's not enough hours in the day can you bring someone on like i don't know how the structure of yours works but i don't know if there's not enough if there's not enough hours in the day because there is so much business then usually for a business that suggests then it is time to bring on someone else because they're able to provide more value to the company than they suck yeah no and and that's that's a possibility i mean it definitely is it's just going about it because if i hire someone they're going to want to make about like what i make if they're at the right level i need you to start having some conversations conversations with one collecting that billable hours two with the extra try to see if you can get your money from the sold house three might want to talk to just talk to a a bankruptcy advisor and bankruptcy lawyers just to see what your options are around there three sell everything everything everything but That's again, all these little things, they still don't even put like a dent in it.
1:45:53Even if we're fully following the method from the boy over there, you're selling everything, going crazy, everything. You probably make a dent of like a hundred thousand. Even still, it's just 300 ,000, which is going to be so, you're so far behind in retirement that I almost need that to be your focus. And even bankruptcy, how much is going to be discharged? We don't know. And then there's the student loans. So it's like. Student loans are 25 years that I've been paying on them. Sit down with the people that don't mean money. There are boys. I need you to sit down with someone there with multiple sessions.
1:46:24I need you to go through their whole process. They might have a solution. But this is too extensive for the show. You can work your ass off, but even if you work your ass off and bring that extra 7 ,000 hours a month home like you did this last month, 22 and a half years to pay off all your debt while living on basically nothing. Bankruptcy might be the play. And I hate that. I hate that because it's expensive. It's stressful. You already have enough stress in your life. You're taking gummies just to sleep. Like, I don't want that extra stuff on your plate because I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
1:46:56I wouldn't wish that on anyone. All right. It also doesn't feel good, like, on my end to just not pay it, believe it or not. No, of course. I get it. I get it. But. I'm just thinking that$400 ,000, that$400 ,000, if I just opened my Moo Moo brokerage and I just bought the S &P 500. What that$400 ,000 would be worth in 22 and a half years. Be wild. Yeah. This is where we are. I need you to do those actions. It's the solution from this show. Yeah, you can put all those actions in. The selling everything. Getting the money from the ex for the sold house. Collecting that$15 ,000. Maybe even get an employee.
1:47:38If that's something that's even possible in your business. I don't know if there's really not enough hours in the day for the business that can be done to make more money. Even still, we're probably only making a dent of$75 ,000, which unfortunately for your situation is not even substantial, which is crazy because that's a shit ton of money. But as you start tackling these debts, of course there's just more and more money you have left on a monthly basis, but it still takes 22 years to pay off just about from what we've been able to do in two hours. I wish this was a more uplifting ending. I think you need to have some serious conversations with people in bankruptcy, people in different advising areas, people who are able to sit down not for two hours but for like two weeks, two months.
1:48:26Yeah. This is just one of those rare situations. And honestly, this whole week of when this is being uploaded of just thick stack week, whatever it's called they've been the unique rare situations in this show where the path forward has many angles and none of them are good yeah but it is the situation you got up to uh got into and i will say if you continue down the path of what got you in the situation in the first place there will be no hope and all of it will fall on your children because they will have to take care of you and that is unacceptable right now i agree all right let's rev up your daughter because we're about to have I have a hard conversation with her and I'm going to yell at her if needed.
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