Wannabe Hipster Knocks Up Literal Clown | Financial Audit

4 Sep 2024 · 1 h 22 min

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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title

Wannabe Hipster Knocks Up Literal Clown

Hosts

Caleb Hammer

Guests

Rachel (21) and Dylan (23)

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Episode Overview In this episode, Caleb Hammer conducts a financial audit of Rachel and Dylan, a young couple living in Phoenix with a 6-month-old baby. The episode revolves around their financial struggles, spending habits, and relationship dynamics, revealing a lack of financial literacy and communication between the couple.

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Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Financial Struggles and Current Employment
  2. Dylan's Employment History:
  3. Recently quit a job in an automotive shop where he was making approximately $850 per week.
  4. Currently works as a dishwasher at Texas Roadhouse earning $18 per hour.
  5. Rachel's Status:
  6. A stay-at-home mom, expressing that she feels isolated and financially stressed.
  1. Family Planning and Relationship Dynamics
  2. The couple discusses their unplanned pregnancy and engagement.
  3. There's a shared sentiment of financial insecurity contributing to stress within their relationship.
  4. Different views on spending lead to frequent arguments.
  1. Spending Habits
  2. Monthly Spending:
  3. The couple believes they are spending less than they earn, but Caleb reveals they are overspending by approximately $2,000.
  4. High spending on non-essentials like Mountain Dew and takeout is highlighted as a significant issue.
  5. Emergency Fund:
  6. Had an emergency fund of around $2,500 but depleted it quickly due to ongoing expenses.
  1. Communication Barriers
  2. Rachel and Dylan struggle to discuss finances without it escalating into fights.
  3. They often blame each other for spending decisions instead of collaborating on solutions.
  1. Advice and Strategies for Improvement
  2. Budgeting:
  3. Caleb emphasizes the importance of creating a realistic budget and tracking spending.
  4. Income Improvement:
  5. Suggests that Dylan look for better employment opportunities and Rachel consider part-time work to increase their income.
  6. Financial Education:
  7. Encourages them to educate themselves on financial management through available resources and programs.
  1. Debt Situation
  2. Credit Cards:
  3. Discusses the couple's use of multiple credit cards, including a Capital One card with a maxed-out limit.
  4. Acknowledges that the couple's debt is manageable but requires discipline and better spending choices.
  1. Family and Support
  2. Rachel mentions needing to rely on family for financial assistance, particularly from grandparents.
  3. Acknowledges that while support exists, it is not a sustainable solution.

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Key Takeaways

  • Financial Literacy is Crucial: The episode highlights a lack of understanding about personal finance and the consequences of poor spending choices.
  • Communication is Key: Healthy dialogue about finances is necessary to avoid conflict and foster teamwork within the relationship.
  • Budgeting and Tracking: Establishing a budget and diligently tracking expenses can help control spending and improve financial stability.
  • Seek Financial Education: Utilizing available resources for financial education can empower individuals to make better financial decisions.

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Closing Remarks Caleb Hammer emphasizes the urgency for Rachel and Dylan to address their financial habits and communication issues to secure a stable future for their family. The episode serves as both an enlightening and cautionary tale for listeners regarding the importance of financial education and responsible spending.

For those interested in participating in a financial audit or seeking financial advice, listeners are encouraged to visit the podcast's website.

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0:00To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube.

0:30Hi, I'm Rachel. I'm 21. I'm Dylan. I'm 23. We're based out of Phoenix. And this is Financial Audit. Welcome down to Austin. Thanks for coming, guys. And what do we do for a living right now? I guess we'll start with you. I'm a stay-at-home mom. Oh, wow. Okay. So we have a kid. Yes. We're a young couple. Kid. How old is this kid? Six months. One kid. Single. Six months. Very cool. Wow. Was this planned? We knew there was a risk. It was the find out method. Yeah, that would have risk. Yeah. Yeah. We knew it might happen. So like you guys just didn't care? I forgot. Okay, no. You forgot that you weren't wearing a coat?

1:25Listen, Caleb, we went to public school. So we were like, if it happens, it happens. I mean, at the time we were making. It's an interesting family planning strategy. They've been doing that for hundreds of years. When were you guys married? We're not. Yeah, we're engaged. Yes. Oh, okay. When did you guys get engaged? September 22nd. Yes, the baby was already like three months. Wow. I was already three months pregnant. Did that kind of push us over the edge to get engaged? Yeah, I think so. All right. Completely different answers from both. I always thought she was the one, so I was just kind of pushing it along.

2:02I wanted to prove to her that I meant to stay here. I just knew I was pregnant, and then we went on a vacation, and then we were engaged. All right. Cool. And then what do you do, Dylan? What do you do for a living? I'm a dishwasher. Okay. And there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm immediately curious how we're paying the bills as that being the only income right now? It's new. So previously I was working on an automotive shop. Oh, okay. Previously when? A couple weeks ago. Yeah. Okay. This is very new. What were you making at that? So the pay plans are strange. My last check was about$850. I was bringing that about every week.

2:51Before that I was making a whole lot more, about$1 ,600 a week. When? last year. What happened? I got forced into a demotion. Why? So the management team at that place is very toxic and very totalitarian. They're very mean. Totalitarian, okay.

3:12And I got pretty sick of it. I was mostly ignorant to a lot of the stuff they were doing. So anytime they would start violating our workers' rights or just kind of being rude for no reason or expecting too much without compensation. What workers' rights did they violate? Like no lunch breaks. No lunch breaks. They make you sign fake legal documents. They weren't even legal documents. No, they weren't. They were basically like, you're going to do this and this and this. And if you don't, we're going to give you the f*** boot. But it wasn't any form of work thing. It was like a printer paper with pen.

3:42And they're like, you can't pick your kids up. You can't leave to get your kids. Yeah, there was actually a worker there that he had a signed court order to go pick up his kids at five. And he said, Mike, oh, no, you're going to work till six. and if you don't, you can leave. And he's like, no, I have a court order. I can do both. Try to not hit the table, but I mean, I get it. I haven't let my employees leave in six months. I make them live here because I own them. That's what the bathroom is. It's good. It is. So it's the shackles are for Noah sleeps in that corner right there. Is that his pee bucket over there too?

4:14No, he doesn't let them go to the bathroom. He's here to save money. That costs plumbing. Absolutely. Now, obviously, that doesn't sound like a great work environment. No. They got to the point where he was reporting to HR, and they retaliated. Yeah, and they just kept retaliating. Quiet fire type vibes. So how did the emotion look? So eventually, they're trying to get me to quit, and I don't quit. So there's a position in the shop. It's the worst position in the shop. You're working in a basement. It's about 110 degrees in there, and then you're just running back and forth, changing oil in cars.

4:46We're the only one kind of making it. Now, why was no one else doing anything? They got fired. So there's only one pit tech at a time. Why were you not fired? They don't like to fire people. They were doing the quiet fire thing of like, oh, he's a minute late. Write that down. Oh, this. Write that down. And then he went to HR. I wasn't giving them any reason to give me a fire. Like, I'm a good employee. I did all my tasks on time. They just didn't like the fact that I was trying to hold them accountable to like a healthy work environment. They wanted to manage their way and they didn't like that.

5:16So they're just trying to give me the boot. so they threw me in the hole for probably three months trying to get me to quit now you're a dishwasher yeah we're getting to that point we're getting to that point um so it got to the point because the way my pace sorry sorry sorry where's the spray bottle yeah i will spray you it's true it'll work i'm armed and ready so the the way the pay works is i was getting paid off mechanical because I was... That's so menacing. Locked and loaded. I like how you bought the black one from Target too. It's tactical. Right. It's tactical. That's what the grip is for.

5:50So originally... I put it on like intense mode because I have to aim from across the room. I can't hit the mics. Go on. Continue. So I was a service manager. So I was managing all the cars in service and that's how my pay was based off of. I was getting a bonus off the polar commission of the shop versus the oil side gets paid off what they do over there, which in the whole it's just a flat hour rate plus like extra couple hundred bucks. Sure. So they couldn't keep me on the mechanical rate if I wasn't over there, but they didn't have any reason to take me off that pay rate. So they brought someone else new in and put them on that pay plan and basically told me like, hey, if you want to stay on this pay plan, you're going to have to move a couple hours away to go to this other shop and work there or you can put on the basically lower pay plan and I was going to move.

6:38Sure. i didn't want to make the drive because i'd turn my 10 11 hour days into 13 14 hour days and uh i still needed money because i didn't have any backup i didn't think they were going to do that eventually i thought they're going to maybe put me out a hole but uh so we're just been kind of struggling with that past couple months so you quit i quit yeah okay now dishwasher you're just like the first open job you can get is was that the idea i was planning for everything yeah okay well now i actually appreciate that i you know for what it's worth i actually appreciate that because what a lot of people do is they find themselves in like a laid off position on the show and yes if you're paying into unemployment on insurance or insurance you know that that can help you for a while and if you have an emergency fund obviously that can help you for a while but at some point some people are pushed to the point where they they are not willing to take jobs that they look down on jobs that are a little easier to secure in emergency situations not that you know they want to hire someone that's immediately going to leave and but they're probably used to being a higher turnover rate in that job so what are you making now uh 18 an hour okay okay it's not horrendous just for washing dishes yeah it's actually a little surprised um but it's like even over 15.

7:50are we allowed to say brand names i don't care that's it's like texas roadhouse so they have really good yeah the rolls the rolls yeah the rolls plus i can sell myself an interview pretty well yeah yeah saying you've been doing this how many weeks now i start the seventh okay yeah how are we surviving um we're not we used up the emergency fund you had emergency fund we did we had probably about two and a half grand this is a different conversation i like it usually we don't have people well okay that's not a fully funded margin fund never mind it's definitely not you had something it was enough to cover like one rent payment like a car payment And then because with the baby, there's at least$200 every month in formula.

8:33So I guess that makes sense. Why we're having this conversation, in your opinion, why are you guys here? It's just gotten to a point where I feel like the financial literacy is almost none. And we can't have conversations about it without it being like a fight. And then that just is so stressful on top of not having money to do anything. Like as a stay at home mom, being in a house for 10 hours a day with a baby. yeah it adds stress and then the finances have always kind of been like i'd be like can we do this and he'd be like yes and then like a couple days later like oh we we couldn't do that and now we're stressing and what example i need an example of that like oh can we go get food today or like can we go grocery shopping today and groceries are at least like 150 now for a week okay and then he'd be like yeah we can because i mean obviously we need food but then that wasn't the case and And then by the end of the week, we're like stressing on how we're going to pay for things.

9:28This last two months, I think we've asked his family for help like two times. Really? Yeah. His grandma covered like a gap for a rent. Grandma? Yes. Oh, that always hurts. Yeah. Going to the grandparents was probably retired, right? Yeah. Yeah. Mimi's great though. What did you borrow? was it borrow or a gift she'll never ask for it back she's an older southern woman she's never going to be like you no it wasn't like a loan it was like we're going to help you do this how much? 600 something dollars so that was like a stopgap the rent and a little bit extra for groceries so why is every conversation around money a fight though I just think we have different views on it.

10:23Okay. Tell me his views. Well, when it comes to like hobby things, like things he enjoys, it has to be like the best of the best, like the best coffee machine, the best like tools for if he wants to go to the gym. Okay. Those things have to be luxuries. But then if I'm going to the grocery store and I'm like, hey, can we get this bigger pack of meat? It's always like, no, it's too much. We can't do that. So that kind of just immediately makes me... I wouldn't quite say that. I would say it's like, can we get these chocolate chips for the cookies i'm like we we we can just have normal cookies you don't need chocolate chips but do you agree with her assessment on the first thing yeah i do okay i do have an issue so is it the chocolate chips that are killing us or getting the expensive coffee equipment coffee equipment and probably okay probably chocolate chips every week like it's that mix of both we're like because i i almost feel like oh well you got this so then i get to get this for the house because you spent that money and then i feel why how what wait okay well if we knew why why does there have to be some kind of competition on spending i don't know if it's a competition on spending or if it's like a like especially being a stay-at-home mom it's like i don't get luxuries like he gets to go to the store for a mountain dew every day at work i don't get that i have to go to store mountain dew every day what does that mean you mean like you stop and get a Mountain Dew every day?

11:41I don't have to stop. It's across the street from all the work. That's stupid! Get a pack from Costco! That's fair. It's cheaper. Yeah, no shit. What the f***? What do you think? I mean, the problem was I was spending them. I was getting them every day, so I didn't have money to buy them at the Costco. And that's where it came in, is like the smaller things daily of like, oh, we, let's get this because it makes us feel better in that moment. How the f*** can you get a Mountain Dew every day if you're borrowing money from Grandma? that's gross yeah that's gross yeah what you're smirking no i'm trying i'd feel pretty nasty about that personally nasty yeah when you put it like that as someone who has borrowed money from my grandparents a long time ago when i was in a bad spot and it was borrowed and i ended up paying it back i'd feel gross yeah and then what's her philosophy on money mimi's no oh hers yeah um said you guys had different philosophies what is it yeah usually anytime we talk about finances no matter how like how good we're feeling going into it i feel like her anxiety just cranks up to 11 and then immediately i just feel like i'm being attacked on most of my purchases or any of our purchases that we make together so when we have conversations about money it all of a sudden becomes a well you spent on this well you spent on this yeah it's a big fight well we can't get that well we need this but yeah and then i think a lot of it too is because he took on like me being a stay-at-home mom and him having to pay my bills adds a little more to that.

13:10How close do you guys live to family? About 30 minutes. Okay, so the support could be there, could not be there. It's a little difficult. It's not like we don't have support. But, well, yeah, but... I mean, honestly, it's not like we haven't had every tool to do this the right way. How do you want to be a stay-at-home mom? Mm-hmm. Ideally, until the second kid was here because then I could just... We're planning for a second kid and we literally... Well... Probably. Not soon. What's your rent right now? 15 flat. How the fuck are you? Is that with utilities though? How many hours are you working a week?

13:43Originally 50 to 55. Okay. And that was. You're putting in the time. But that was only making. They required 50 hours to make 800 bucks. It was 18 plus a commission. Oh, you're making 800 every other week? So what'd you say? Every week. Every week. 850 to 900 bucks. Okay. So you're making rent, but it's still very expensive for you. Yeah. How is second kid in a conversation then for that? It doesn't really make sense. especially if you had to drain an emergency phone is that fair to the kids i don't think so no you don't have a choice to come into the world or not right but they're cool well i'm sure so is a new motorcycle like yeah i mean we're not getting a motorcycle are we no no no oh so okay you're making an example yeah can i uh can i have the whiteboard i'm gonna have you guys do a little exercise.

14:28Okay. Okay. I want you guys to kind of guess. I have the answers here, but you're going to... Thanks, Noah. I'm going to go back to my... As you should, where you belong. That's why you get straight line toilet paper in your bathroom. You're a piss-stained cot. Jeez, they're like... It's like some weird... Do you want help, Caleb? Do you want help? Sorry, I'm just thinking about your guys' dynamic. Like, when Noah comes out here for the post show, Are you guys just going to be like Flaming him? Yeah What the f*** is happening? Do you need help opening that? Nah, it's a twist Attaboy You broke it Good job Noah, do we have a new marker?

15:08I know Caleb may not budget that in You can't boss him around Got it Oh, just kidding Caleb fixed the broken marker I believe that With this curvy line toilet paper

15:22Oof Okay, so I need you guys to discuss, have a thing. You're going to do a bar next to each, a bar next to each in terms of how much was income, how much was spending, and then the number inside that bar. By the way, your guys' message on the coffee machine kind of passive aggressive. It's openly aggressive. I'm always openly aggressive. So you're going to draw a bar based on let's pretend that the income was $5 ,000. Draw a bar. Oh, okay. And then write$5 ,000. If the spending is$2 ,500, it would be half the size. I didn't graduate high school. Thank you for that. You're welcome. A little consultation.

16:07Are we doing both do one? Or just together? Yeah, I want you guys to decide together. What do you guys think? Where do you think things are going? Do you want numbers? Yeah, number in there. And while they figure out what a bar chart is, a bar graph, feel free to sign up if you want to be on the show and you have an interesting situation, interesting finances or if you have an opinion you want challenged, anything like that you can come be on the show at calebhammer.com slash apply you can also get your Hammer Financial Score for free link in the description below you can also get your merch on calebhammer.com at shop.calebhammer.com oh I'm so sorry do you think it's fine?

16:50I do think it's fine Yeah. You're the money man. Vaguely. Is that true? Yeah. So he runs the money. Yeah. Okay. We'll talk about that in a second. Let's figure out what you guys got. Okay. So here's what they think. Income in$3 ,200 and spending$3 ,000. Is that$700 or$100? That's a seven. Okay. So you already think you spend, you know,$500 more. Well, that's at least the$600. Why? Why are we spending$500 more if that's what we think we're doing? Like, why are we allowing that? If rent, we already know what rent is. Then if you include your needs on top of that, your monthly payments, it shouldn't stack up to that.

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18:38why not i guess i don't know i i yeah it's definitely not a like a conscious decision but it becomes one at the end of the day it becomes one at the end of the day why haven't you guys sat down like i know you guys blame each other okay so we blame each other on different things that isn't necessarily the most helpful way to go about a budget but why aren't we sitting down and at least just figuring out where the money is going and taking any kind of self responsibility without blaming the other person on where things are going why haven't we sat down and at least acknowledged where our own spending habits are that's fair yeah i mean i've does grandma know that we're spending so much yeah no on you bullshit stupid dumb bullshit that does not matter in any way whatsoever going out to eat was literally double your grocery store spending

19:34it's like the kid doesn't matter it's like your grandma doesn't matter it's like the life doesn't matter it's like our future doesn't matter i didn't know that of course not because you even sat down and tried to figure out where we are instead you guys just point the finger and be like you shouldn't have spent money on chocolate chips you shouldn't have spent money on a coffee maker you know that's our solution that doesn't get us anywhere yeah that doesn't get us anywhere yeah it's also been like a like if we have the money i'll spend it so if we have money for groceries i'll just go get groceries not thinking well groceries isn't necessarily bad as an inherent product but certainly budgeting it figuring out what we can do you know probably going through a cheaper meal plan meal planning techniques six to eight dollars a day on drinks and then you try to go get groceries you're you're a hundred dollars some drinks yeah it's a daily thing well both of us i what are you getting red bulls why why are we getting packs at least at a lower price it just i think when i was making a lot more money it kind of made us a little bit spoiled i do say oh sure because well you're making like what 80 a year i was i was making i made 80 grand last year okay yeah so that was definitely living quite yeah we're definitely living quite comfortably so spending habits weren't really nothing crazy and now he can't tell me no so if i'm like i need a red bull because the baby's been really hard all day i'll go get the red bull now of course your income was correct you already know your income you're spending you thought was 500 more right uh so you thought your spending was 3 700 you're spending was 6 434 dollars oh you guys don't know what the you're doing no you don't even know what your life is yeah damn holy shit what was the shocked pikachu voice face like what was that like six thousand dollars that's crazy it's insane yeah it's definitely on me too because i should have just asked to get on sooner to check because i like didn't when we started doing the whole he was home i like we kept separate accounts up until like two weeks ago so i never even looked at that how is your guys relationship right now it's on the out all right at best huh is it all right at best it's on the out all right it's like a day-to-day thing day-to-day thing and you think it's stemming from this uh there's obviously having a baby is stressful having a baby that fast is stressful yeah we'd only been together for you guys you know can wrap it up or take any medication or anything and you guys are just like yeah well when we were making 80 grand it made the sense because i knew i wanted kids young i don't want to be like 50 with like a 10 year old have you looked more into the automotive industry in terms of trying to find a job that at least got you closer to that and come with the experience you had and you say you have these incredible job interview skills uh not quite i wanted to make my way out of what i i have yeah i want to get my yeah i want to get out of the automotive why um it's dude it's gross like working about it i didn't like it um i felt real scummy when i was talking to customers trying to get them selling I don't like selling.

22:46I don't like the management because I have worked in a couple other different automotive fields. I've worked at a dealership before. I've done just like a lot of tenant and detailing stuff and it's never been fun. It's just kind of a thing I fell into. Fun. I don't give a shit about fun. No offense. Not right now when you guys are spending double what you make. Fun isn't the equation of caring for me. I would say aligning more with my morals than when it comes to the workplace. It's just gotten to the point now where I'm having to compromise on like her care because i never wanted to put her in a daycare because i just don't think it's hard well especially at six months right like i get so then now it's to the point where i'm just upset because like i know that i'm probably gonna have to get a job what do you want to do then if you're the breadwinner of the house what do you want to do that aligns with your morals i want to be a police officer okay well that's obviously time to go through that.

23:45Have you applied? Yeah, I've applied and I just wasn't letting on this go around. They said come back in two years. Yeah, they said come back in a couple years. Yeah, that was last year. So I feel like it's kind of just been like a holding out. I thought he could apply again. So you have to wait two years now? Yeah. So what's your plan until then? I'm obviously able to, I have resources, I'm able to gift you certifications of course careers, accounting, whatever, anything like that for a type of career change. I can't offer you a police certification or anything like that. Okay. So what the f*** are you going to do until then?

24:18Because you guys got to pay the bills, and right now you're not doing anything. You're also spending stupid. What the f*** is your plan? We do have a plan. We are getting better. Oh? We spent double. Right. Right, right, right. I don't know what better is considered to you. We're just planning on me working full time So that is the plan And I would do part time How do we feel about this Well why are you part time I won't have her go to someone else for care Okay well what is she going to be doing Are you both never going to work at the same time We plan on working the same time No no no We're going to You guys aren't even aligned I'm just explaining it wrong Yeah no so I would do I'd be the 40 hours a week and then he would do about 25 so when I get off or weekends I just haven't gotten a job so you'll never see each other I mean yeah but is that's a way to avoid fighting I guess but that's and then the finances will be fixed by the time that we do see each other so no okay do you why do you know why no you guys even know no no it's not your income is a major issue right now.

25:30But it is your spending. I don't give a how much you guys make. You're spending double what you make now. And you're borrowing from grandma to try to fill the gap. And you don't even get close to that anyway. You're taking it from retired granny nana, okay? It's not going to be you making more money. It's your spending. It's your behavior. It's your lack of care. It's your lack of discipline. It's your lack of maturity. The kid's popping you guys into maturity real quick because you popped it out. but that has not changed your spending. It has not changed your behavior. It has not changed your maturity.

26:03Let's get into the debt. Hi, I'm here to pick up my son, Milo. There's no Milo here. Who picked up my son from school? Streaming only on Peacock. I'm going to need the name of everyone that could have a connection. You don't understand. It was just the five of us. So this was all planned. What are you going to do? I will do whatever it takes to get my son back. I honestly didn't see this coming. These nice people killing each other. All her fault. A new series streaming now, only on Peacock.

26:40Oh, okay. Something else, but you guys are not credit card people. Capital One. We have a balance. This isn't a huge balance. It's the max. It's... Oh, my f***ing right. It's the max, yeah. That's insane. Credit limit. I've never seen a credit limit of lows 221. Did they lower that at some point? No, it was the platinum, so I paid. You're over the f***ing limit. No, you're not. You're so close, though. Yeah. It's a secured credit card, isn't it? It is secured. So when I got it, I put down a certain amount, and then they gave me the 221, and I've had that limit since I got it when I was 18. Okay, so what are we trying to do here, though?

27:17I mean, at least with the money that you got, you're spending so much money, which you only did a little over a minimum payment, but then you wouldn't purchase it on it anyway. So it's like, what's the point? Yeah. Like, what are we doing? No. If we're taking from grandma, again, I really don't get it. Why are we spending on a card that is accruing interest on a monthly basis? $6.07 there. $25 minimum monthly payment. Basically at the max. You put it all the way back up to the max again. Kindle. Go to the library. PlayStation Network. We're not doing that. We can't afford to live. I'm not saying I don't want you guys to have fun or paid for fun.

27:52That is not it. You literally cannot afford to live when we're taking it from a retired lady. okay the sims uh resource torontoone yeah that's me stop right what is that it's like a custom content thing for the pc on the sims buddy you need the content in your life yeah the con you need to unlock the content pack where you're able to just like survive i know it's imaginary at this point yeah it's basically a loot box for you whether or not you'll get it right i think that definitely contributed to it's like well if we're gonna be poor yeah so that's what we've accepted we've accepted that our just our child's gonna grow up in a poor house great that's great that that's that's what a parent should say right no i haven't accepted it i'm not we're not poor i'm broke it's different oh not not according to your second half yeah i've just yeah the one's given up one hasn't how do you lead someone that's given up how do you go forward with someone who's given up how do you get into the marriage with someone who's given up how do you guys get to the final goals that you want to get to if one has given up it's an anchor that's the all over you but like how do we do this that's true how like i mean i'm aware that it's the problem is definitely me when it comes to spending and the fact that he took on the debt because he doesn't he didn't have any you you took on all the debt well i had debt getting into the relationship and i think it's a little bit of a savior complex and he just felt bad seeing where i was and then took me out of it and then was paying on it when i it stopped working okay so he's been he's been paying all the bills since last year so if you're getting into the workplace what's your um have either of you gone to college at all or anything i haven't um but i've been working since i was 16 so they don't usually ask when you have that much experience.

29:49Well, it depends on the job. Right. I mean, a lot of it's office jobs, but I used to do operations for like a large furniture store, so that definitely helps. Okay, so you guys just graduated high school then? Basically. Well, no. I don't. No, I mean, that's... I don't have one. You didn't graduate high school? No, I dropped out. Why'd you drop out? You don't hear much of that these days. No, we were really financially stuck, and it was affecting my mom's mental health so then i dropped out to get like a full-time job at 16 your mom's mental health is allowed to affect your basic core education yeah that feels well she's potentially a little selfish depending i don't know yeah she tried to put me in an online school but i was working like 50 hours a week at chick-fil-a so it wasn't years a week at chick-fil-a at 16 wait why i'm so confused because we needed the money so she was what was this mental health thing what are you talking about like it would be like we don't have money because she moved us out to oregon without an emergency fund or anything oh great this is what i'm worried for your guys's kid because it's like they don't have a choice they don't have a choice in this world to come into the world that's why then if you're just around and putting your selfish desires over them you're gonna put them in a situation that you've been in you want to be in that generational cycle constantly no that's why we're here okay so they moved she moved there with no emergency fund right yeah so i was um i was in school and then we were in like half of an attic it was like one bedroom like an open plan almost because in oregon there's different housing laws so he could have he could rent that out and we were paying 1200 for that and then she was working three jobs to make up for like the living cost of having two kids i she's needed money so she came to her 16 year old right i need you to work 50 hours a week that's kind of gross i don't know if it was like that i'm okay with a part-time job to help into the communal thing if the family is going through hard times i think she puts himself's desires over it right uh i don't know yeah i disagreed with the home of to oregon because i was like an ap student and then it just messed everything up and it got so you've worked in operations what have you made what has been your highest paying job it was that um yeah what was the like pay 52 a year yeah okay how long have you been out of work a year gap in resume i had a kid yeah and then usually they're a little you're gonna be headed into a harder job market yeah i have three interviews when we get back okay good i've just been turned down from five so it happens it's the name of the game i'm learning sucks it's humbling her numbers game is wild though interviewing or uh applying for jobs is you know a full-time job and sometimes has to be a little more curated depending on the job and you said that and i realized like i wasn't doing it enough so i applied like 42 jobs just the last two weeks but only like six of them called back yeah yeah it is a numbers game and you know you're depending on the job you know cover letters and things you know ideally i wouldn't have to work but we're here yeah i don't give a shit ideally ideally it's not the world we live in right the world's not necessarily kind loving and caring you just got to figure out your way through it like a adult or your kid's gonna be driving out of high school and working at 16 yeah also you're spending all of your guys's money so i don't really give a that's true like yeah that's not like we're trying guys are living like upper middle class people yeah we're not making you're lower middle class yeah ouch mathematically it's not a you know insult it's not even a bad thing but just you got to live like your real life yeah we yeah this is a 32.24 interest rate i didn't know it was that high yeah holy yeah you guys decide to spend on on playstation network and sims Bullshit.

34:01Yeah. So instead of paying it off, we keep it at the credit limit. Smart. Real smart, guys. When did you guys start dating? September of 2022. Yeah, 2020. 2022. Okay. And then we had like a miscarriage like two months in. And I think that's kind of just what. Two months into dating? Yeah. Yeah. I think this would just put us down the trajectory of like, go, go, go, go, go. One, I'm sorry for the miscarriage. And two, you guys were pregnant so quick as well at the same time. It was... It was... I'm going to look at the camera. If you're taking birth control and also on antibiotics, it will cancel out.

34:39So you can't be on birth control and antibiotics. Interesting. Yeah. And it most likely won't be a viable pregnancy if you get pregnant on antibiotics. I guess I need to double up my birth control. Yes, Caleb. Did you take your dose this morning? Did you miss your alarm? Yeah. Noah sticks it in every time I walk in the office I figured I thought he was supposed to work for you right the college is helping to grow out speaking of getting in the ass let's talk about this apple card yeah that was a mistake it's a huge $1 ,730 and 3 cent balance with a$52 minimum payment and that was before the trip here trip oh because you have to use that card to well at least the reimbursement the the flat rate that we give you better put it right towards us then if that's the case yeah yeah because that's that's the plan but yeah i get it why is this card balance so high i'm bull um yeah and then why then why why are we bull then that's that pisses me off you're just so you're knowledgeable of it but we still do it.

35:52So it's just like, what can I even do? I wouldn't say it's a bullsh** card. Okay, so again, we disagree again. So what is it then? Not bullsh**. A lot of the whole reason why I got that card was I was trying to boost my credit score before we met. So I just used it for small purchases. And then once we got together and we needed some extra money to save for a vet visit or we had unexpected bill or something. You guys have pet insurance? No, but then it turned into like, oh, we need like something at the store or gas and we're not obviously we don't have money because we're spending that much yeah i just didn't we didn't have like a real financial conversation until we were gonna come on you guys need to go really until then you haven't had a talk well i knew it was bad but it would be like the are we okay and then like well yeah because you didn't want me to freak out yeah it's never wait did you even know your finances i the household i had no idea they were this deep.

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36:48Why were you? Why? Wait, why? Why are you ignorant to the household? With the baby? I guess I just didn't care. You didn't care? I didn't think it was my problem. So you didn't even ask? No. Why didn't you share? BJ's Wholesale Club makes holiday hosting so easy we called in Thanksgiving's original host to talk about it. Pilgrim here. We could have used BJ's back in the day. Imagine stepping off a boat then foraging for your first Thanksgiving. It's a whole new world now. BJ's brings Thanksgiving right to your door with free same-day delivery on your first order of$100 or more. We're talking turkey, squash, pies, all at prices so good they'll knock the buckle right off your hat.

37:25For terms, visit bjs.com slash Thanksgiving and get the same great savings online as in Club. Because obviously this is concerning. Why would you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If my spouse, you know, this imaginary spouse, because, oh, well, she's imaginary. somebody get Caleb on bubble if if you know she was taking care of a kid or whatever she wasn't interested in the finances but something was going wrong that impacts our future and impacts our kid I would bring it up because we're both adults so why did you not bring up anything it's probably a lot because before I was making a lot of money so like it was never a conversation to ever like really have because we're always okay but it is a conversation to have so why didn't it happen i just assumed it'd be okay how bad math i don't know that's not a answer that is not an answer why did you think this would be okay what was your actual logic you see the debt accumulating you're at max out card how are you like it will be okay i guess i was just holding out hope that things will change um i always knew we always had enough money in the bank account where we can make our bills and we can make our groceries so in my head that was comfortable living would be okay but of course if we need anything else it was going to the cart and i would just borrowing from your what do you mean you have enough in your account to pay your bills what are you talking about that was yeah you are living in full delusion right now what are you on about i commend you for working a lot of hours i commend you for immediately getting a job after well you quit but i mean still either way uh you You still got a job quickly, even though it's not the job you want.

39:07We just ignored six grand worth of spending. Yeah. Guys, just a quick plug, but this is your last chance to grab a spot in my five-day financial refresh challenge for free. The challenge starts today, and I couldn't be more excited to share this content with you all. Like I said, I think there's something in here for everyone. And at the very least, you can follow along with us and take the next steps toward building a better financial future. just click the link in the description below I'll see you there and then also with the baby and the PPD it was just like well this isn't the biggest thing until it was the biggest thing are you sure you're even going to get married if things keep going like this I mean probably not if things keep going like this it's a leading cause for divorce in this country we were raised completely different with money so the conversations are definitely always stressful no you guys just point fingers well it's clear as day you spend money on taco chips you spend money on coffee yeah you're both irresponsible the pointing of the fingers is correct you're both point them at yourselves as well acknowledge right okay no spending no wait no there is agave psychiatry that's what they're about okay 20 bucks how often not anymore yeah it was once or twice a month we couldn't afford therapy can't afford therapy how is therapy the thing we cut when we're spending 700 a month going out to eat what the f*** are you guys on about i think it's which one's really better for your mental health are you f***ing kidding me it was just that the therapist was like the charge was like 140 and i'd rather get a five dollar drink than pay 140 well all together like with mine and his so both of you were going and both stopped stopped because it was like the six dollar couples therapy though well i mean yeah yeah and that could like save you guys that's not gonna help us get out of the hole it might if it keeps you guys together and allows you guys to strategize and actually have conversations about money if you can't have conversations about money you're never going to get out of the hole right if you're able to have those healthy conversations then maybe you will it's just like the those big amounts are so much more overwhelming than like getting a drink or going out to eat yeah but that's your guys's issues the small cuts yeah it's the small cuts we can work a new budget that's one of the last things that cut that's why i try to keep gyms in the budget as well there are certain things that you know aren't in need if we get to the end where we literally cannot afford certain things and we're already at the max of work like okay that's where we can have the conversation but those are things we try to put in if you feel like we need them we just haven't oh 34 of interest to charge this month and again you know like and i'm not against the therapy um i am against putting it on the credit card okay so we only have one car loan it's just mine yeah because he has like a 97 gmc now is it thank you oh front that thing's gonna run for a while yeah it did It gets stolen and then his dad replaced a lot of the stuff.

42:23Yeah. So I've always been able to keep up with it working at that shop because repairs are cheap. So everything's basically new on it. The motor's only got$150 ,000 on it. The transmission's only got maybe$90 ,000 on it. And then we have a Ford Focus as well. Yeah, 2016. Okay. $8 ,931.07. Yeah. You had a late payment. Yeah. that was you had a late payment yeah you told me you guys have enough money in your checking account to pay your bills so that's why you don't tell her then we had a late payment so what was happening i do forget her bills often yeah then you can't be in control of the finances that's not how this works that's i don't it's children you know yeah the late payment was um That month we had to make rent.

43:19So I deferred it. You had to make rent every month. That was the month that we were short. So on top of the money that we borrowed, we deferred the payment and then paid it like 10 days later. And then there was... What do you think it's worth? Car man. That car? Yeah, what do you guys think it's worth? Like six grand. I would say six. 2 ,800. Oh, okay. That's trade-in though. What's private market? No, you kept animals in the back. Let's do private market going forward. Five grand. Five private. Even still. That's a rate list than we thought. Yeah. And then it was$221. And then they saw a lapse in the insurance.

44:00Then it raised to$280. What's the minimum monthly payment on this thing? $280. $281. That's a minimum monthly payment. I mean, it starts becoming harder when we're stacking these up and we basically make no money. Yeah. There's two lay fees. Okay. Great. Wonderful. it's a 5.7 percent interest this isn't even the worst thing in the world yes you're underwater a couple thousand dollars but in terms of the overall grand scheme of things as long as this is running well it's not the worst in the world and the interest rate isn't the worst in the world either but you guys are late you guys are late you're just it up yeah yeah because it's this i was a whoops baby and my parents were 19 and 20 when they had me when i or 18 and 19 no we think we knew what we were doing huh is that what you're about to say is this a whoops baby that we had i thought you already said it was like an end baby we knew we knew a fornication happened on that week i'd get pregnant okay so you guys wanted to have a kid yeah i think the miscarriage like pushed it forward a lot the whole relationship went really that's not what i'm saying right just when my parents had me you know i was a whoops baby so it's actually even more irresponsible that you guys did it but i was a whoops with me my dad was uh you know a gas station attendant and my mom i was just kind of like a helper and like a glasses place and you know like an eye uh doctor place you know neither of them made much money and that meant the vast majority of my childhood the vast majority of my life was growing up with really difficult finances hard conversations really cheap you know just spaghetti every meal you know that kind of thing and it made life hard and it made i saw them struggle and they did a pretty good job hiding it from me and you know they went in debt to make it me feel like i was like living you know the solid middle class life next to everyone but there are foreclosure notices there are things like that and that is what your kid's future is right now based on your guys i mean this car is not the worst thing in the world the interest rate the payment you know even underwater it's not like the end of the world car as long as it's in decent condition and but and you guys are f***ing it up because you're not willing to literally have a single conversation with each other about money you are going to have that hard thing now for what it's worth you can turn it around my mom get a nursing degree she has a successful career there my dad ended up co-finding a business with some people and they've been successful there of course they had to wait until i was out of the house to be successful but either way you can turn it around but you're headed through that tough childhood for you the kid and then you're already talking about bringing in a second one you're not even married yet so it's not like we even have like legal the government pays for your babies if you're not married i you get covered under access so i didn't we had no hospital hospital bill there are substantial tax credits though as well i don't know what that means tax credits what does that mean do i owe them now because i had no no no credits less less tax credit what's the let me let me look at the tax credits because i don't i'm not popping up children i don't know i don't know either you don't know what what is the tax credit is that like like when you write them off yeah it's essentially against taxes okay so it's gonna to be credit okay oh that's another reason too is you get more if you're single on taxes it just i didn't well no when you joint file as a married couple one second i'm uh up to two thousand hours per qualifying child under the age of 17 and 1700 of it is refundable meaning that's like literal cash in your hand it just didn't start phasing out if you start making more than 400 thousand hours a year jointly or single at two hundred thousand it really doesn't matter if you're married or single on that part but there are tax benefits for married couples but married couples was one of them without income aren't you both about to have an income though but we didn't i mean yeah i know the second child was like if i mean obviously now it's not i'm not gonna have a second child with someone i don't know not based on what you said so how am i supposed to read your mind.

48:14It was just the plan. You're not a credit card. People use a charge card like the fizz card guys. You just don't know how to. This is ridiculous. You can't pay your own bills. You need to be forced to pay your bills. Yeah. We were on autopay but then it kept drafting us into the negative. Because we didn't have the amount on the account. It's another credit card. It is. Credit Union West. I have two accounts on this. They're both MasterCards. One of them is a credit This is a It's a credit card Yeah Okay and we're sitting at$454.38 Interest is accruing New purchases Guys This is like How much more of this can we think Why are we purchasing on this What are we supposed to do if we don't have money to get I'll tell you Don't go in and get Mountain Dew and don't go to a smoke shop.

49:13These are not requirements to life. So, f*** you. What are you supposed to do? You don't do it. Don't be a dumbass. But that's what, like, keeps the morale up. F*** your morale. Your morale doesn't exist. It's not gonna matter if we're making income if we kill ourselves. Killing yourself by not giving yourself lung cancer? What the f*** are you talking about? But, you know, like, there's things. There's vices. Everybody has, like, a little thing that keeps falling. You can do puzzles. figure out okay sorry i'm oversimplifying this either way in general obviously glugging down the mountain dew not good for you glugging down smoke whatever it's not good for you and you cannot say that well how are we supposed to burn money if it's on things that are a want and those are a want no matter the addictive tendency of it it's a want you're putting it on a credit card that's building up that's near max out that's accruing interest that you're not paying off that's not where we'd put it anyway i'm okay with the vice you get get on that um you already bought the expensive coffee equipment get on the vice of making fancy coffees you know you know maybe it's easier said than done this is more of an addiction that you know would need to be worked on i can't put it in your budget but it's just when you're in those moments and like life is because you don't have any money good amount of dues.

50:37I get that, but why is life sh** now and why do we not have any money? Because you guys are accumulating your debts. So I'm not against the, you know, I was kind of joking when I said what was the word? Morale. It's not about that. It's like literally your morale is just going to be forever getting worse because you're kicking the can down the road and this is going to become so bad that maybe bankruptcy is the only option. Maybe we have to borrow a ton of money and have a hard conversation with our family. There's so many bad things that are down the path you guys are headed that are going to make your morale worse.

51:12So I don't care if the morale is slightly hurt by not going and getting whatever you're getting from the smoke shop. I don't care if that morale is hit in that moment. If in the long term of your life, your morale is up. So I don't give a. It's not that easy when you're in it. No, it's not. It's not. Everything revolving these conversations is easier said than done. We would have to sit here for 10 hours if we went into the nuance of every single little thing. The addiction is something that you're going to have to work on yourself. I can't put it in your budget. I will not allow myself to put it in your budget.

51:44That's something you need to work on for yourself and for the longevity of your life so that you can be around for your kid longer. Not develop your weird whatever lung is going to eventually hit millions of people. You leave my lung fungi alone. Huh? You leave my lung fungi alone. I'm growing it with care yeah it's not funny you're gonna die and leave your kid okay okay it's not a joke it's not a hee-ha hee-ha it's kind of it's disgusting vaping or yeah he like legitimately is like I don't care I'll shame it I don't care it's fine it's nasty like we don't even know the long-term consequences of that yeah there's gonna be millions of people that are just gonna that we're gonna have to take care of because they're like let me have flavored nicotine I'm just glad that you've never had to yeah I've had to stop my own vices I have my own vices that and nicotine is one of the most addictive things it really is you know one of my producers back there kicked nicotine it's super cool of him one of my best friends here in Austin also has done that and it's really difficult and I know it maybe set up reward systems for you along your support system is who knows but it's difficult and that's something you have to work on yourself and i can't help you with it but i can't put it in a budget okay no budgeting for nicotine no budgeting for a future lung cancer no so 17 interest uh 50 that's medical debt bill just 50 dollars it was a no show huh it was a no show what a no show fee i didn't know that was a thing yeah i legitimately didn't yeah no they'll charge you if you don't go they're gonna make their money yeah they're gonna make their money okay i guess i've just never missed one that was just a joke they asked for um record of cash cash on hand and i told them i have a jar of coins to throw to robbers so they wanted documentation

53:43okay that's what you asked a big jar sure got like 10 bucks in there oh good we've got our checking and chase is a negative this is wonderful this conversation continues to get better and better and we're sending out apple cash like what the are you doing uh again i'm good with the gym but you're negative in your checking account yeah plus a monthly service so you're negative and we're negative$11. What the f*** are we doing, guys? Who are you apple caching? That was to you. For what? Drinks. When we're negative? What are the f*** doing? Also, I thought you guys said you were a joint now anyway.

54:18So what is happening? Well, I still have my account, and he has his account. But I'm on his account. Why is anything going through here? You're negative. I just didn't switch it over. Switch it over! Be a f***ing doll for two seconds! Well, it wasn't a big deal until like a month ago. You're negative. Okay, right. It's a big deal. Okay. Yeah. Oh my. Okay. Do you guys even care? Like, what are we doing here? Well, yeah, but when you're in the moment. Wait, is this another? What is this? That's counseling. Past due? Counseling? Is it? Yeah, that's the$145 I owe to the therapist. I was under the assumption that it was covered, and then they sent me that bill with all of it together.

55:05That was for three appointments. I don't know what your insurance covers I don't know what your deductible is Do you? I mean it's Medicaid so no Okay You guys are just like let's have a kid for fun Okay Like it's a toy Sure At least there's$710 in this Is this a shared checking account? Yeah Guys this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life So stupid so selfish so just childish and gross started off the conversation with pleasantries and i'm and you guys are lovely people as people but this is gross yeah so there's a door dashing for 40 bucks we're borrowing money from granny sending apple cash out going inside getting mountain dew sweet treats apple cash sent out ihop getting mountain dew sweet treats mountain dew sweet treats withdraw ATM 43 who knows where the went withdraw ATM$2 probably a fee Burger King going inside getting some Mountain Dew sweet treats Mountain Dew sweet treats Mountain Dew sweet treats Mountain Dew sweet treats TikTok shop$136 ,000 on TikTok shop the f*** are you getting how much was it for$136 and we're borrowing money from grandma was that$17 I looked I looked the line doesn't connect very well okay no that was um a father's day gift yeah it was a father's gift are you bar whose father okay you're borrowing from your father's mother his mom's mom but yeah to get oh okay well that's close yeah so i don't think we're doing that i just don't right like it doesn't make any sense burger king netflix nothing on there anyway manscaped do you need a subscription you don't so you're getting a one-time thing you can for your special mustache as you've been touching all conversation yeah yes more nicotine and microsoft ultimate sending apple cash out apple cash out burger king modern market eatery jack in the box blue martini blue martini this is guys going inside mountain dew sweet treat spotify cash happen out 30 cash happen out eight bucks apple cash out eight dollars apple bill in-app subscription who knows ten dollars 31 cents going inside getting a sweet treat mountain dew disney plus apple cash sent out goodwill yeah you never really know you could get you could get things you actually need okay i'm okay with that what i'm not okay with is then going and getting mountain dew sweet treats and mountain dew sweet treats and mountain dew sweet treats apple cash sent out guys this is ridiculous who the who the are you guys sending money to so much it's between him and i because if i don't have money in my account i thought you guys use this jointly i i guess we've just been lazy i haven't switched it stop being lazy how how are you guys allowed to be lazy how is there even room or time or anything here for laziness i mean there's not when you're raising a kid you're not thinking about you're raising the kid to try to live a better life and because you're a little lazy right now you're in their future is what i would say to that okay before you try to make an excuse about the kid okay as a full-time creator i can tell you creating engaging videos takes a lot of time and effort from scripting to editing the whole process can be a headache but that's where in video ai comes in with in video ai you're in the director's seat while the ai acts as your co-pilot taking care of all the heavy lifting in video ai is the world's most used AI video creator with over 10 million users in more than 150 countries.

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1:03:01Being here isn't a magical solution. I will give you the wake-up call. I will connect you with the resources. Go through our budgeting class. Go through our investing class. It's bundled now at a lower price, by the way. I guess it is like selfishness. I don't know. This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers. We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew. I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

1:03:30That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. I had like really bad PPD, so it was... PPD? Yeah, postpartum depression. Oh, yeah, that does suck. Yeah, so then it definitely was on me because I'd be like, I need this thing because I'm like super sad, and then he would get it. Okay, was that clinically diagnosed? Yeah. Okay. I just got off Web of D. That was a joke. It was clinically diagnosed. Noah thinks you look like a flamboyant pirate.

1:04:08You can make fun of him not having hair on top of his head in the post show. Did he just type that out to you? Yes. This is why we need to keep him in the back. Flamboyant pirate. Look how fruity he is with some of your guys' guests. I look great. I think you look good. thank you you like touching it it's like a pet too but it is like a huge pet peeve of mine it's just like you like sit there and you see your i always lick like my like uh like the lip ticklers i always get like a long hair right here yeah he calls them his feelers like a bug that's pretty funny it's not funny when i'm trying to eat a fucking sandwich i eat half my mustache though yeah hopefully you're making it because you can't afford to buy one I'd be the one making it $47 in this checking account so what's the point of this checking account this is your checking account so my grandmother had set up this checking account when I was a child and she was just putting a couple dollars here and there what's Harkins Nortira that's a movie theater great so movie theater movie theater more Moundy switch treats ATM would draw$303 who knows what that went this is more spending rent's okay but more sweet treats and movies because again our pleasure our instant gratification that's more important yeah three thousand dollars invested is that what's invested to our name uh my name yeah all right because you guys definitely don't consider yourselves together in terms of like an actual partnership actual commitment for the future that's as clear as day with the language you guys use.

1:05:52You've been good. I'll put this away. You haven't touched the table once. I'm glad we've earned. I switched my mustache. Yeah. I mean, necessary food was 6.1 % of your spending. Your spending, we also know, was 50 % more than you made. But either way, within that spending, 11 % was going out to eat. Miscellaneous bullshit, 8.4%. Of the large purchases, 11.1%. Like, this is just insane, guys. that's laundry mat ATM withdrawal$303 and apple cash out $212 $200 a mountain dew we think just about insane yeah like that yeah you're the next boogie congratulations oh great no you're dating way too within your age range to be boogie that's a fact what is this nothing don't worry about it do you know not people making money at jobs

1:06:55yeah that's true no more terminally online if you're gonna get a job get a job yeah which is honestly a play is that i i like that you guys can do it without putting the kid in child care and you guys are just working weird hours that's just the one thing i won't compromise on is i'd rather have and that's fine it's it's gonna be interesting curious to see how sustainable it is. That's the worry. Alright. I think what's your rent again? $15 after everything. After utilities and internet? Yeah, it's after utilities. And internet? Rent as insurance? Okay. Phone bill? $200 something. I don't pay mine.

1:07:36She has$98. His parents pay for his. $98? Guys, I assume you still owe money on your phone. Mine's paid off. That's just what my mom said I owed her. Get your own line with helium for 20 bucks a month, dude. You just do that. I don't... Do they get service everywhere? Yes. T-Mobile towers. T-Mobile's not that great. T-Mobile, well, it's great here. I have T-Mobile. Well, good for you guys. I like my Verizon. Great, yeah, let's continue to pay for things we can't afford. That's some... Are you... Are they gonna... Okay. Spoiled. Never heard of healing before. That's spoiled brat behavior. No offense.

1:08:20I mean, I don't care. Car insurance for both. I don't pay car insurance. Mine's... We do mile by mile because it's cheaper since I don't drive. You don't pay for car insurance? His parents pay for his car insurance. You really are a child. Okay. That's okay. I mean, if that's what they want to do. I was paying it for a little bit. You're getting money from everywhere. Yeah. From everyone because you guys can't... Okay. Mine is... Mile by mile? Yeah. So because I don't drive that often, it would have been$500 a month because I have accidents. So I just did mile by mile. So what is it normally? Like 120 a month.

1:08:56How much gas for both of you? 50 every two weeks for mine. Mine's maybe$40 a month. So like 90. 140. 140. Sit every week, yeah. keep you find anything else you need to exist two hundred dollars and that's because the kid's expensive and you gotta put all that food we're meal prepping aggressively a couple times a week and we're just eating cheap or eating healthy use the one in the budgeting program address it to your needs and with the kid i'm thinking you guys can do we also use aldi which is really good yeah yeah 600 a month that's more than yeah that's more than i'm used to spending on groceries yeah but you guys go out to eat yeah i guess that's true i'll do i'll do 500 if you can do 500 do 500 but i'll allow up to 600 medical let's get those co-pays a couple what if you do like two therapy sessions a month what would that cost you each um huh if we did two a piece yeah 200 bucks is that just for you all together let's see if that works what's the gym membership it's just mine which is 25 i think there's 25 yeah it was 15 no i have the black card so i can take Blake.

1:10:06And you guys said you had a pet? Yeah, we have a dog. Pet insurance? No? I think you should. Because that can add like a$5 ,000 bill to you because they eat. It's the same thing as like when we got the vet charge was like a thousandth. How much for dog food a month? That's$100. We get his food once every three weeks and it's$40 for the... Okay. So$80? Maybe. Just by$80. And your minimum of your debt payments,$281 plus$25 plus$52 plus$25. We're looking at$383. Let's see where you guys are at. You guys think you know where you're at? Or is this like... I took the test. We're about to find out. Yeah, we're not going to be great.

1:10:54How much hits your account on a monthly basis right now? $8.50 a week. $8.50 a week? $8.50 to$9.00 a week. Hits. Just do 800 every week. That's what hits the account, though. That's not what's before taxes? No, it's 800. Yeah, that's what hits the account. Yeah, 850. Times 52 divided by 12. Some months are longer. Some are shorter. 3 ,466. You guys have room. There's no excuse for borrowing from your grandma. There's no excuse for spending the money that you guys have. There's no excuse for being short. You guys have the money. And you're going to make more, and you're going to bring in money.

1:11:30honestly i mean this is kind of simple to me you're gonna work part-time you're gonna get a full-time job making like 50 um you guys are gonna be able to pay off this debt pretty quick just pay off uh medical and therapy then capital one then the mastercard then the apple card then even pay off the ford focus just to get rid of risk get a fully funded emergency fund i think you guys can do that in like a year and a half pay off the ford focus in a year and a half yeah Yeah, because you guys are already making more right now than you need to live barely. And if you truly focus in and just tackle debt as the top priority, yeah, absolutely.

1:12:08With you making 50 and you working part-time, yes. Absolutely. But what would that be like a month just going into the car? Huh? Well, after all the other debt is paid off, your minimum payments again are lower at that point. You'll have like an extra$100 to throw towards it. and then you're making again 50, and then you're making part-time. Probably making, what, like 75 ,000 bucks a year maybe, depending. Plus with paying less in taxes because the kid. Just seeing those numbers makes you feel so stupid. And then if you guys are married, you'll have married tax benefits as well. Is it a benefit to get married though?

1:12:42Like actually money-wise? Yes, you get tax benefits. I can bring up the exact... I just... In general, I don't know, because like my mom always said it was easier not to. i don't think well easy in what way like sure yeah like filing or with kids do you no okay i believe you i don't think you should be taking financial advice from your mom that's fair i mean i can sit you guys down with our in-house cpa that you guys can talk to if you guys want to be coached financial coaching you get a higher standard deduction as uh and lower tax rates as a married couple obviously there's child tax credit and earned income tax credit as well oh i forgot about this but there's also the spousal ira contribution so one with no little to no earned income like you were able to contribute to both of your tax retirement accounts essentially almost like doubling your ira which is kind of cool and obviously spousal and survivor benefits for social security but i mean there's a lot of things here guys i should just probably stop listening to people well i mean i don't know the exact argument i can't argue against it unless i know what it is so you guys have this you guys have this yeah Once you start doing your job and you're doing the part-time thing, if you're able to do it for a year and a half, let's call it two years to pay off all the debt, have a fully funded emergency fund, then you can figure out what you guys want to do for careers and everything from there.

1:14:00But that'll be when you can apply to the police again. So you guys just need to cut back, pretend like you're living on nothing because you guys are living on nothing right now. You can't afford anything. That's not how I want you guys to live. Don't get me wrong. But this is like the literal reality or situation. and you brought a kid into this world against their will so live a good life for them yeah and with them and you can do that with simple sacrifice like literally just simple sacrificing just for a couple years which is absolutely nothing you'll be 25 and you'll be 23 so or you'll be 23 so there's just that's nothing we're in our mid-20s and you guys have a fully funded emergency fund and no debt you guys will retire multi-millionaires contributing yeah okay if you if you do 50 30 20 50 percent of needs 30 percent of wants 20 percent into investing if you if i open up my muumuu app right now my brokerage that i use and i buy like some s &p 500 or some spy and i compound that over the course of multiple decades by the time i hit 59 and a half where things that's where your tax and energy accounts like the iras can be with drawing penalty free you guys will have a couple million bucks you know if we're actually making the money that you suggest you're going to be making and you're going to have a great pension program likely through your police force anyway so there's a lot of opportunities here sacrifice for just a year and a half guys your life is done but instead you guys have been acting like children and you're putting your wants and vices over over your literal child so yeah i it's a pretty easy solution it's literally just your sacrifice it's literally just basic things spending a budget you overspent by double zero out of ten your debt it's not even like the worst debt you guys just you're spending stupid so you're allowing yourself to get into bad debt three out of ten emergency fund nothing right now you drain it zero out of ten retirement i know you're nothing you started for your age i'm happy combining it as a household kind of pretending like you guys are married you're gonna put that a three out of ten because you're kind of anchoring down on that real estate zero out of 10 for now it's gonna be a hammer financial score only rounding up 1.5 out of 10 make sure to stick around for the post show we're gonna have noah come in here who they seem to hate so we're gonna bash and we're gonna jump into some more drama because there are some things that we didn't get into that are on the more drama side of things the more tea side of things yeah so we'll talk about that in the post show you can join in the link in the description below also to make sure sure to check out all the resources there as well They are what I use or would use in specific situations, including the best budgeting and investing programs now bundled at a lower price.

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