The #1 Budgeting Mistake Smart Moms Make—and How to Fix It (Without Giving Up Pumpkin Spice Lattes) | 443

6 Aug 2025 · 36 min · 15 chapters

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In short

The #1 budgeting mistake smart moms make: using a “single-account” system from when they were 16–18 (tracking instead of planning). Guests are told to separate bills from spending using multiple checking accounts, automate transfers on payday, and use a five-category budget (income, debt minimums, bills, spending, savings buckets) so moms can be debt-free without restricting fun (e.g., pumpkin spice lattes).

Guests

Diana from the Busy Working Moms Blueprint Podcast (working mom/coach; discusses budgeting overwhelm and working-mom financial “mess”); Shayna and Vanessa, business partners and master financial coaches trained by Dave Ramsey (run Financial Coaching for Women; budgeting/debt coaching since 2019).

Key claims

One-account budgeting creates confusion (“1 billion transactions”), encourages credit-card reliance, and makes bills/spending unclear. Separate accounts + automation reduce brain calories and prevent kids/variable expenses from derailing plans.

Notable examples

Client “Carrie” reorganized after hearing them and could see money clearly; a vehicle-tire story where saved funds prevented panic; kids field trips/sweatshirts and planned “kids spending” to avoid surprise charges.

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Chapters

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Why Budgeting Feels Difficult

1:28 to 2:26

Discussion on common misconceptions about budgeting and why it seems daunting for many.

“So I'm just going to jump right into the question.”

The Mistake of a Single Financial System

2:26 to 5:08

Exploration of how many people continue using outdated budgeting systems and the complications that arise from it.

“should already know all of this, all of this stuff about budgeting.”

The Benefits of Multiple Accounts

5:08 to 8:00

Argument for why having multiple checking and savings accounts can simplify budgeting and improve financial clarity.

“What we hear is people coming in and going, I don't know how much I have for this.”

Five Key Budget Categories

8:00 to 10:50

An introduction to the essential categories to consider when creating a budget, emphasizing structured financial management.

“So when you go to make a budget, you need to have an income section that lists every single dollar that's coming in that month.”

Understanding Income and Expenses

10:50 to 13:44

Detailed breakdown of how to track income and categorize expenses effectively in a budget.

“And so we're going to have, now we've had the income, okay?”

Savings and Planning for Unexpected Expenses

13:44 to 14:00

Advice on allocating savings for anticipated and unexpected expenses to maintain financial stability.

“When you need new mascara, when the gas tank is on E, you know where the money is coming from.”

Understanding Savings and Budgeting

14:00 to 18:04

Learn the importance of budgeting for expected and unexpected expenses.

“because we will talk forever, is savings.”

Involving Kids in Budgeting

18:04 to 20:45

Discover strategies for teaching kids about financial responsibility and budgeting.

“And in a minute, we'll get to the automate part, which really does make it a system.”

Automating Your Budget System

20:45 to 27:26

Find out how to automate your budget to simplify financial management.

“He alluded to at the beginning that, you know, you're probably using the same accounting system, banking system that you use when you first open your first bank account, but we want to do things a little differently.”

Introduction to Budgeting Expectations

28:00 to 28:15

Learn about the importance of budgeting and automating finances.

“And if you're already a budget nerd like us, you're about to meet your new obsession.”
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Understanding Account Categories

28:15 to 29:18

Discover the five essential bank accounts for effective budgeting.

“So let me just, so I have to put this in my brain.”

Spending with Intention

29:18 to 31:28

Explore how to allocate your spending without sacrificing quality.

“like i don't need to separate because i don't need so many accounts i just want their life isn't as complicated i just want the gas and groceries over here and then i'll so it's really up to you.”

Handling Debt and Budgeting Strategies

31:28 to 32:25

Learn strategies for managing debt within your budget.

“When we do income minus debt, minus bills, minus spending, minus savings.”

Embracing Financial Clarity

32:25 to 33:48

Understand the importance of recognizing your financial situation.

“It's funny because I'll look at my account sometimes and I'll be like, I can't, I don't want to, I don't want to look at it.”

One Page Budget Template Overview

33:48 to 36:01

Get introduced to a simple and effective budgeting tool.

“they now know what's happening with their money.”
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Transcript

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0:00Dyana:Hey, besties. We're replaying one of our favorite chats from another podcast with our friend Diana from the Busy Working Moms Blueprint Podcast. Do you make good money but have nothing to show for it? Are you tired of living paycheck to paycheck? Do you have big dreams for your financial future? Do you want to get debt-free but you don't want to live on beans and rice? Or you don't want to give up those pumpkin spice lattes? Hey, it's okay if you don't already know how to budget or if you're using credit cards to get through the month. Hey, it's okay if you want seem like you have your finances all together or you're not on the same page with your spouse when it comes to finances we know what you're doing probably isn't working but guess what you're in the right place we're shayna and vanessa we're best friends business partners and master financial coaches trained by dave ramsey we've been in business since 2019 helping hundreds of amazing people like you create budgets get out of debt stop living paycheck to paycheck and know exactly what to do with their money.

0:54In this podcast, we'll share with you everything we know, plus everything we're working on with our clients so that you have the best chance at reaching your

1:01Dyana:financial goals. We want to help you take the guesswork out of your budget, improve your marriages, and even bring your kids in on the conversation. We can help you no matter where you're at, whether you're the single mom who's never had$500 in her savings account or the millionaire who's paid off four real estate mortgages. And we're not going to shy away from the tough love. We'll tell you what you need to hear and encourage you at the same time. This is the Financial Coaching for Women podcast. So thank you so much for being here. So I'm just going to jump right into the question. Why does budgeting seem so hard?

1:33Nobody wants to budget. We're excited to talk about the B word. We know that you're thinking that already. The B word, why would I even want to talk about that? But the real truth of it, and this is what I was saying, we know from experience, we were never taught how to budget. None of us were taught how to do this. So that's why it seems so hard, so foreign, so complicated. Yeah.

1:51Dyana:And at best you were taught how to track. So there's a lot of devices, apps, even budgets out there that really, that you put numbers and words on paper, but you're really just tracking what's happening instead of really budgeting and planning for your future. And it's, you just have it. You just, and here's the thing. You don't know what you don't know. You people have beat themselves up because they don't know anything. I should know. It seems easy. I should know how to budget my groceries and gas throughout the month. But when you don't properly know how to do it, then it just gets all convoluted.

2:21Yeah. And you've got busy moms here, busy working moms. They're very successful. They're very smart, but they've been, they shame themselves into thinking they should already know all of this, all of this stuff about budgeting. That's what we're trying to say is you were never taught. So please don't feel that heaviness over it. But the other thing that we all know is when you think of the word budget, you probably think I'm not going to be allowed to spend money. They're going to, they're going to not, you're going to be, it's going to be restrictive. It's probably gonna take forever to figure out how to budget.

2:45And then there's so much talk, Diana, about how exactly how you have to budget and you have to live on beans and rice, and it has to be very restrictive and all that. And so people feel paralyzed. They're like, hard pass, thank you. And said, I'll just live off my credit card limit and we'll call that a budget.

2:59Dyana:They put these words and numbers on paper, but they don't actually know what to do afterwards. So it's really hard. And another part of this is there's a lot of what you should be doing. You should be doing like, what is it? The 10, 20, 30, we hear Shana. 10 % goes to this, this 20 % goes to this 30 % goes to all these different percentages. And what we really want to tell people is, look, it's not cookie cutter. Your life, your life is different than mine is different than Shana. And what I do with my budget is very different than what she does with her budget as it should be, because my lifestyle, my goals are very different than hers.

3:31Dyana:And so you need to make a budget that is that's conformed to that. And it is okay to not do what you think you should or what TikTok is telling you should do with your budget. Yeah. It's funny that I talk to a lot of moms, a lot of working moms, entrepreneurs, business owners, and I never think that's going to be an issue. Business owners that have big companies, like that is an issue. The budgeting, the finances, it's a mess. And I'm like, wow, like I wouldn't expect that, but I think you're right. Like we don't learn that it's not something, and it does get a little crazy and out of control.

4:06We don't want to look at it. It gets overwhelming. And then you just don't want to pay attention to it. Yeah, I totally get that. What is the number one mistake people have when they try to budget? What we have learned is we're all operating on the same budget system or financial system that we have when we were 16 or 18. Open up that first account when you got your first job. Yeah. And we're still using that and that's our whole system. Even though our lives have gotten more complicated, our finances have gotten more complicated. We have more bills. We have more income. Praise God for that. But everything is just more, but we're still using basically the nothing system that we had before.

4:39You're just not helping yourself there, right?

4:40Dyana:So it's like you're using the same system like Shana said, everything gets more complicated, but we don't have anything to help out. And basically the problem there is everything is in one account. So we're about to blow your mind. You can have more than one checking account and you can have more than one savings account. And we're going to get into the details of that later, but that's why people are doing is they have about 1 billion transactions in one account between bills, spending, savings, trying to figure and trying to track that and manage that. That sounds awful. That's terrible. We don't want that for you.

5:09Dyana:What we hear is people coming in and going, I don't know how much I have for this. And for that, I go to the grocery store, but I don't know if the mortgage has come out yet. The electricity bill has come out. There's a lot of things up in the air in that account, but you're trying to use money that quote unquote in there that you think is yours to be able to spend for your kids concert tickets or groceries or whatever. But nothing is clear because Shana said you have 1 million transactions coming out of one account and you don't know what's going on. Wow. That is crazy because I always feel like it's better to have one account.

5:42Like you can see everything in one place and it would be crazy to have a bunch of different accounts. But wow, like to have now I'm curious. I want to know more. Actually, and you know what? You're exactly right on track. That's what most people that come to us think too. But what's crazy is what's happening with your money right now. Like we said, we help people who make good money. Like you just said, these big business owners, all of that, they make good money, but they have nothing to show for it. They don't know what's happening with their money. We want to take that away. We want you to feel confident.

6:08We want you to own it. We want you to know. We want you to always know where money is coming from. If I need to buy this, if I want this, if I want to splurge, if I want to save, we want you to feel in control. And the best way to do it. So the old way was maybe cash envelopes or grandma putting money in between the mattresses or in a tent. We're going to use the modern digital tools that we have available, which is multiple bank accounts and some other stuff that we're going to go into. And you can make your budget easy, simple, and automatic.

6:35Dyana:And a lot of people think that this one account is going to be super simple, super easy. But what we found is when you separate to simplify and you see what's happening, a lot of our clients we've had, we have really Carrie, she's a wonderful, wonderful client, but she was one of those that we were on her podcast or in her Facebook group with her private community. And she heard us talk and she went home and did all the things. And she's, I now know exactly what I have for what and how organized it is. And it's so easy to see my money, but we don't think of that. We think just having one account is going to be easier, but it's really not.

7:08Wow. That's awesome.

7:10Dyana:So what are the five categories of a budget? Okay. This is important because we, so we have been budgeting. We've been budgeting for a while, but we have literally been coaching budget, budget specifically for over five years. And we have seen all the budgets that are out there. We've seen what's available. We came up with our own system because what those budgets do is they, it's just, it's a lot of, we call it boy where they are. I don't even know. And what really ends up happening is you put numbers down on paper, but you don't know what to do with your hands after that. Like you just have a piece of paper.

7:43You're like, great. What do I do? Yeah. What do I do now? So we decided let's have the budget match the behavior, what your money actually does, whether it's coming or going, what is actually happening with your money. That way it's very easy to figure it out.

7:57Dyana:So we've broken it down into five categories, which is all of the money coming in, which is your income. So when you go to make a budget, you need to have an income section that lists every single dollar that's coming in that month. Even if you're making tips in cash, it doesn't matter. This isn't one of the IRS. This is for you to see. You want to know all of the income that's coming in. Yeah. And we like to start with that. It's the best number we say in your budget. Yay. Exciting. We're going to put any tax returns or bonuses. All of that goes in there because that's the first step to know what, what do I have to work with?

8:23Right. And then we do Diana, we go from the best number to the worst real quick. It's just real quick. We're going to rip the bandaid and the next category is okay. Yay. Who's excited? Nobody, literally nobody is, but it's okay. Because what we want you to do is get all of your debt on one paper. A lot of times we know I have this and that and the other, but once we see it on one piece of paper, that's like a game changer. And so we like put your debt and put it in there. just your debt minimums. Well, we're going to get to paying extra on debt later, but we're trying to build a budget to see what we can actually do with all of this money in a month.

8:52And so we're just going to list out our debt minimum payments in the next category.

8:56Dyana:And so basically, if you are making payments to your credit card companies or loans or whatever, and you're making payments that are above the minimum, we're going to actually have you change that to only have the bare minimum amount come out. We'll talk about that and the reason why in a minute. But like Shana said, we want to know how much extra money do we have? If you have$50 going here,$25 extra going there, a hundred dollars extra going here. If you have money spread out in five different places, that's not going very far. But if you take all of that and you combined it into one location, you're going to go a lot further faster.

9:25Dyana:So that's, we're trying to get all the extra money that you really have. And also we're subtracting. So we have income now we've minus, we've subtracted the debt, which we have to pay the debt minimums. Now the next category, the next column in the budget is your bills. Okay. So bills are anything with a due date, right? And so this is going to be your mortgage. It's going to be your utilities. This is also going to be Netflix. This is also going to be gym memberships. It's also going to be daycare. If you're paying for that, all of your bills are going to be lifted out. And this is another one.

9:51This is, this can be very sneaky. I have this bill over, or maybe my husband's paying that bill. And then maybe I have this bill, this subscription on the card, or maybe this one, I don't even remember how much it is. So we're finally going to actually see everything on one piece of paper, but it's easier now to see it all in one. Like when I think bills, I know what that is versus is a lot of budgets, like Vanessa said, fixed expenses, variable expenses, needs, wants. No, I just know, I know what, if it's a bill, I know what that is. So we're going to put it all in one column. And we categorize a bill as anything with a due date.

10:19Dyana:So anything that you would be charged for on a reoccurring basis is a bill. So that's what we want all of those listed in one section of your budget. It's not, but it's a need versus a one. I want Netflix versus I need this. No, it is a bill. That's what you're getting charged for. That's what you're choosing to call a bill in your budget. So we're going to put it all there in one spot. And just really quick, when we do talk about needs and wants, once you have all of this on paper, Diana, you will be able to see, okay, maybe I want to make some tweaks. But let's just see what's happening first.

10:49Let's just get it all out on paper and figure that out. And so we're going to have, now we've had the income, okay? We've subtracted the debt payments, which unfortunately we have to pay. We've subtracted all of our bills, which we have to pay. Now I know how much money I have left for the next two categories, which are the more fun part of the budget, which is spending and savings. So the next one we're spending and spending is it can be some of your spending is very regular. Some of it's very varies by month, but spending is when you're, where you're living in your budget, it's where you're just wiping your debit card.

11:17And it's when you're going out and spending money at the grocery store, restaurants, maybe some stuff on your kids, maybe go on shopping. It's all of that is what spending is. Yeah.

11:25Dyana:So when you're thinking about Halloween and you have Easter coming up. And if you have that field trip that your kids wanted, haircuts, things like that, Target, Starbucks, like all of that is your spending. So we really want you to do is think about what are the regular spending things that you spend throughout the month, which are gas and groceries, going out to eat, family fun, movies, things like that, your personal pocket money. Okay. Because that is really important. What we found is if you don't cater, you don't have a section in your budget for money for just for yourself, you're going to steal it somewhere throughout the month.

11:56Dyana:You're going to find money some way, somehow to be able to spend on yourself. So you want you to go ahead and make a line item in your budget and call it personal, personal fund money to be able to spend on yourself. And it's important as well that you still, you work really hard. Okay. And you deserve to spend money. What happens when you have that one account is you never know if you have money to spend or not. And a lot of times, what does that lead to either using credit or binge spending because you don't care anymore? Want that thing? And you don't know when else you're ever going to get money again.

12:22And so you have this scarcity. So we're going to teach you how to automate it. But basically every week, every other week, I'm getting money to spend on myself. So I can just wait, or I can pull that money or I have that money and I feel good about it. The other category that's particularly important for your audience is the kids category. Because these kids, listen, if there's one thing that's going to derail your budget, it's going to be your kids. We love them. They're going to be coming in at 8am right before the bus or whatever and say, Hey, I have a field trip. I have to pay$15 today. And you're gonna be like, what?

12:48Where was this information before? So we want to create, and this is important for moms, kids spending line item. Let's put some money knowing that they're going to find a way to spend it every single month. It's magic. It's magic. We're going to put some money in there. We're going to count. We're going to plan for it on purpose so that your budget doesn't get derailed.

13:04Dyana:And look, I know we're throwing a lot of categories out there, but it's really like we're trying to simplify the spending section of your budget. Anything gas and groceries and household, toilet paper, all that goes together. Anything that's personal money that you're going to spend on yourself, that goes together. Any family fun activities that you're going to spend, which is date nights, going out to eat Chick-fil-A runs, whatever that goes together. And like Shana said, anything kid related that they need, that toy that they want, their friend's birthday, field trip, things like that, all that gets bundled together.

13:31Dyana:And if you can think of your budget, your spending section of your budget and those four categories, it makes it really easy to understand where and how you're spending your money throughout the month. Yeah. And when we do this, it also really helps you know where the money's coming from. When the kids ask for something, When you need new mascara, when the gas tank is on E, you know where the money is coming from. It's there separate from your bills. Your bills are already paid, girl. Girl, you're doing so good. Your bills are being paid. Okay. So that's why we're separating it. Okay. So then the last category, and then we'll stop talking and hopefully you can ask questions because we will talk forever, is savings.

14:06Okay. Savings list. One thing that we always hear is quote unquote, unexpected expenses. We understand. You forgot that you had to pay vehicle registration this year. It happens every year, but you forgot. It's fine. We love you anyway. You know what? Christmas came December 25th this year. Who knew that was going to happen? And all of these things that we know are coming, but we forget to plan for. We just like in the moment, we want to set aside savings for them all year long. That way they're all funded. They're good to go. And we don't have these quote unquote unexpected expenses anymore.

14:34Dyana:So when we think of savings, we are actually talking about having different savings accounts. We'll talk about that, but savings buckets where you are putting money aside for future expenses, future goals, future unexpected expenses you have coming up. So this is Christmas birthdays. This is travel. This is annual bill, that prime membership that sneaks up on you every year, that Microsoft 360 that sneaks up on you every year, vehicle registration. Like she said, you want to be able to fund that throughout the year. When people make their budget, they can do income, bills, debt, spending, give or take.

15:08Dyana:But when they think of all the things that pop up throughout the month, that really is what derails them. But what we're saying is that we want you to set aside money in your budget and put those things in there so that way you are budgeting for them on a monthly basis, not just when they pop up randomly. And this is the thing. A lot of times, let's take Christmas, for example, in December. Are you going to be able to come up with$4 ,000 in December to spend on Christmas? Maybe not. Maybe. maybe, but also wouldn't it be easier if you had an account that was labeled Christmas or whatever fun name you wanted and you were just putting$400 over there each month.

15:42That way you can get the gifts when they're on sale. That way when prime or whatever Black Friday happens, there's money there, but you can be generous. You don't, it's not this, Oh, I think I have to put it on credit. And now I don't feel like it's good buying these presents. And so that, that concept, so then you're putting a little bit of money. It's always there available for you to grab the gifts and you're ready. And you're like super ready for Christmas. You're going to be that person and you didn't have to use that. But this is the concept that you can do that for all of

16:08Dyana:your savings buckets and just always feel like ready and prepared. So your regular budget really allows you to figure out how much you cost in a month. And then your state, the savings bucket section of your budget is okay. Now what are we costing throughout the year? What else am I spending money on throughout the year? That's not consistent. That's not going in my regular budget that I need to add in here. So I can see how much I actually cost my family costs. How much do we spend. And it really allows you to, what we want you to do is have a consistent budget. And that's what this allows. There's no more like rollercoaster feel.

16:42I've never done that. I definitely go by let's spend, right? There's so many like things I want to talk about right now. Oh my God, let me go back. So first of all, I have to say that putting it the way you just did like a system, like that you just talked about a system. I think there's a lot of randomness in my life, maybe other people. I don't know how people manage their money, but I think a lot of people are just random, right? Not having all those categories like that where you can really see what's going on. And I think one of the biggest things that tripped me up is the kids and you're so right.

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17:16They'll come to me and my kids now they're like, mom, I want this sweatshirt. It's $300. I'm like, I am not buying you a$300 sweatshirt. It's not happening. And then they relentless, relentless. It's not happening, but this is the kind of thing. These are big expenses. They want to go to magic mountain. It's two,$300 to go just for it to take them out. So they're like, those are big expenses. So definitely budgeting the kids that we ever were. Our bougie kids, bougie kids. Yeah. They're all like looking at each other, what each other has and they want. So that's definitely a category that, that is something that is like seriously needs to be looked at.

17:54Dyana:And then our whole tagline is you don't need another budget. You need a budget system. And that's really what, and like we've talked about, you can, anyone can set up a budget, but do you know what to do afterwards? And that's really what we've put into place here. Yeah. And in a minute, we'll get to the automate part, which really does make it a system. And every mom needs as many systems that happen automatically or as without as with as few in the moment brain calories or decisions as possible. That's what we're going for. You're not alone when it comes to the kids. We, we have a kid's savings bucket and we have a kid's spending, right?

18:22Because the savings buckets, we summer camps and maybe camps. Yeah. whatever just who knows maybe they use sports there's so many different things that we pay for but we don't really think how much am i spending on these kids every year i need to have a plan so it's not like catching me off guard and we had we've had people look at and be like okay actually we need to dial it back a little bit i never saw it how much we're spending and the same i want to just one tweak with the kids thing you can depending on their age you can also put it on them so let's say you say look my budget allows me to spend 50 bucks per kid a month or whatever number you got you can give that to them and say hey this is if you want to go out with your friends if you want to go to the birthday party if you whatever this is how much you have you decide how you're going to spend it if you want to save it for six months to get that sweatshirt please be my guest if you or if you want to just spend it and you realize you don't really want to spend 300 because now it's on you and it's your money and you have to spend it and get rid of it that's another tactic to use is to give them that kids budget themselves and help them learn how to manage it, but I just want them to have a buy-in there.

19:25Dyana:Like you're setting the limit and then they, you're giving them the responsibility to get to decide how they want to spend it. And I think it's meeting in the middle, right? So it's not, you're not necessarily saying no, you're saying maybe not now, but here's the money and you get to decide, like Shannon said, do you want to wait six months? Do you want to do something else with it? And not just put it back on them. I think it gives them responsibility too. Right. And how to manage money. I could talk about kids and budgeting like all day long, but seriously, it just triggered so many things like in my head going, Oh my God, they do this and this, like, how do I manage that?

19:57Dyana:People are afraid to bring kids in on the conversation. And we are encouraging you to have that conversation with them. We want to give them financial literacy. When we started, we said, you don't know what you don't know. Nobody taught you. And that's fair and true, but we can teach them. And this is one of those little steps that can help. Not only do we see, can I see what I'm spending on them, but also I can start to pass on some knowledge and some skills to them so that no offense to us, they're not like us when they're 30, they're better and they go further faster. And I think that's what it is.

20:25Like when I was growing up, they didn't talk to us about finances. We didn't have it in school. We just, my dad would give a little money, we'd go spend it. Right. Never thought about really savings and stuff, things like that. So thank you for that. That's amazing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's great. So, all right. So how do you put a budget on autopilot? All right, girl, let's do it.

20:46Dyana:He alluded to at the beginning that, you know, you're probably using the same accounting system, banking system that you use when you first open your first bank account, but we want to do things a little differently. So we want to have that main account that you're probably using right now. We're going to rename that as your bills account. Okay. Think of all of your income that's coming in. Think of it as a funnel. So all of your income is going to come in to this bill account. And that's the only thing that's happening in that account is it's paying all of your bills and your minimum debt payments.

21:14Yep. So all the income comes into the bills account, pays all the, all of the bills, debt payments. And next you have already created a budget. Good job. You just listened to our categories and you did a good job. And so now you have different line line or different amounts set up for gas and groceries, set up for your personal money. Like we talked about set up for the kids. Maybe you have a couple of savings buckets that you're starting with vacation and Christmas or whatever. Those numbers we are now, those are those line items also represent accounts. Okay. So you're going to have a spending account.

21:44You're going to have five major spending accounts. You're going to have your gas and groceries account. Okay. You're going to have your, we call it restaurants, but if you have kids, we usually say like family funds, just so you can wrap your head around what it is. So it's like restaurants and it would be a goofy golf, whatever, all that stuff. And then you have your personal pocket money as well. Right. And maybe a kid's account. So you're, so then what, when Vanessa's talking about a funnel, all the money's coming in, in the income, in the bills. Now let's say I put$2 ,000 for groceries. Okay.

22:11Let's say I get paid on the first and 15th. It's all, everybody's face, we can talk about that. Everybody's pay schedule. But if I get paid on the first and 15th, what I'm going to do is I'm going to have a thousand dollars in my paycheck, go to grocery, to my groceries account on the first and a thousand of it go to my groceries account on the 15th. That way, every time I get paid money is specifically already set aside gas and groceries, which is so important because we have to feed them and they're always hungry. Right. And, but that same concept is going to go for every line item in my budget, including my savings bucket.

22:41Dyana:So imagine that your money is coming in. What's needed for bills is staying in bills. Okay. And then what's needed for spending is getting funneled out on payday. Like Shana said, to those different accounts. So you no longer have to track how much you spend at the grocery store, how much you're spending at target, how much you're spending for the kids. Like now it's going into each account and those accounts that you now have for spending, those are your new budget. That's like your account balance is your budget for those items. But if the debit cards swipe scroll, you got money in there. But it's as easy as just pulling up your bank app and being able to see the different accounts and the balances you have.

23:17Dyana:And you know exactly how much money you have to spend in those categories. But also remember, your bills are all covered. You don't ever have to worry about paying a bill or if you have enough money for a bill because it's all in the bills account. Yeah. And so that's another thing to just understand. Your bills are going to get set up automatically. So you're not paying bills. Your bills are just happening. The money's always there. They're coming out automatically when they're due. Okay. It's happening. With your spending, you're going to have a couple debit cards that you keep on you. And as I said, the thing is, I know every time I go to spend money, I know where it's coming from.

23:49If I go to the grocery store, I have money for groceries. I'm going out with my girlfriends. I have money for that. I always know where it's coming from. The other thing that we really love about this system, so we talked about savings buckets. Another one would be vehicle maintenance. It's one of the unexpected expenses. You need tires. You need oil changes. Like things, oh no, I never knew that would happen, but we didn't. Okay. So we have, for example, one of our clients. So for example, maybe she had$50 going into her vehicle fund or a savings bucket every paycheck, right? She shows up to go get her tires or a tire fixed.

24:19She thought, you know how they do that flat, fix a flat thing. This is a true story. And they're like, oh no, you actually need all new tires right now or else you're basically going to be home. But that's what they always say, but she believed them this time, whatever. So she's okay here. And he's wait, what, what do you mean? People usually freak out when I say that she's like, no, I have the money. I've been saving for it. Here's my, so she just was able to pay it in the moment. That is what we want to solve for your busy working moms in the moment. I don't have to figure out where the money's coming from.

24:46I don't have to figure out what did the rent get paid? Do I have enough money? Where do I have to put this on credit? Is my credit limit going to allow me to do this? You have the money where it's coming from for all of these things. So imagine you've got your income coming into your bills account, going out to your spending

24:59Dyana:accounts. And the last thing like Shannon was alluding to was your savings bucket. So not only is money being funneled out of your bills account into those specific spending accounts that we have, those savings buckets that we talked about before, like vehicle maintenance, they're automatically getting funded as well every single month. So that way, when you need the money for those things, when they come up sometime in the year, it's just building over time and you have the money for Ford and tires and you didn't have to figure out where the money was coming from or pull extra your money from your business account to make that happen or put it on a credit card.

25:30Dyana:Yeah. Emergency or a credit card. The money has been building up over time because you knew that you needed tires sometime down the road and you've been putting 50 bucks, a hundred bucks into that account. Okay. And just a couple other bonus things. You can rename your accounts. So Diana's fun, happy times money. That could be an account, whatever you want. I like that. I need happy time money. You can set these transfers up to happen automatically on payday there for the, for indefinitely for the rest of however long until you want to change it. So not just bills, you're not just setting up your bills to be paid automatically.

26:01Dyana:You're also setting up these transfers into the spending and savings accounts to happen automatically on payday. Yeah. So when you wake up, you have money for groceries and you didn't have to do anything. Okay. And so really, then all you really have to do is just be like, Oh, look, I have money. When you look at your bank app, so you don't need another app. You don't need anything crazy. You're just using your bank app to see I have money here and here. And look, we understand this is a lot, okay? We gave you the shortest version. Straight from a fire hose. Yes, we gave you the shortest version we could possibly give you.

26:31There's more to it. We promise what happens right now, if you set this up, take a little bit of time right now to set this system up, like we always have to with the system, with the little front work, you're gonna save so much brain calories. You're gonna save money. You're gonna save time in the future. You don't have to do anything after this with your hands. It's all gonna be done for you, which is important because usually when we have to do it, that's when we mess up.

26:53Dyana:I know if there's a lot, like I said, a lot of information, but there was one thing that you took away from this was obviously make a budget. But the second thing is to separate your spending from your bills account. Like literally if you can know exactly how much you have for spending throughout the month and how much you have for bills, having those two things in separate accounts is literally going to change your life and not, and we're not just saying that because We think it's great. We do. But all of our clients, everyone who's heard us talk, they have done this step and it has drastically changed how they handle their money.

27:23Dyana:All right, budget besties, it's time for some real talk. You don't need another budget. You need a budget system. Our simplified budget system is what you've been looking for. It's going to allow you to be bougie on a budget. You'll be able to easily set up a system that runs automatically and shows you exactly where your money is going. And it's going to give you permission to spend. Everybody loves that. Yeah. It's straightforward, pretty, and packed with walkthrough videos that break down the exact methods we use with our clients to get out of debt, set up a bills account, separate spending, build savings buckets, and end the paycheck to paycheck feel.

27:59If you're new to budgeting, this is the perfect way to jump in. And if you're already a budget nerd like us, you're about to meet your new obsession. This is the upgrade to your finances that you need right now.

28:10Dyana:Yeah. So head on over to budgetbestc.com forward slash budget and grab yours. Now back to today's show. So I have a question. So let me just, so I have to put this in my brain. I'm a visual person. So I have to see the buckets, see the categories. Okay. So five accounts, right? You said five accounts. Okay. So I would have one. So some of them are just going to sit there. Like the savings are going to sit there. The automated bills is going to sit there. So that's just, so now we've got three categories we're like playing with, right? So the other ones, am I going to have, wait, what are the other three categories?

28:44You have the budget, the savings, and the other three are? So you have your bills account, all the income comes in and the bills get paid out. So that is one account. It's a spending account because you're paying bills, right? It's automated. Yep. It's all automated. And then your gas and groceries as a spending account that you're going to do. Okay. her pocket money your spouse's pocket money and then restaurants if you want it to be a separate you can use it as cash but restaurants family fund that's one and then if you want you have a kid's account those are the five that we want you to have checking accounts checking accounts okay that's what i want if we have we sometimes we have single single moms or whatever and they're like i don't need to separate because i don't need so many accounts i just want their life isn't as complicated i just want the gas and groceries over here and then i'll so it's really up to you.

29:29But like Vanessa said, the important thing is to separate them and to be able to at a glance know exactly how much money you have to spend on anything that you want to spend money on. And that's so good.

29:37Dyana:Wait, you have to share this at the beginning. Excuse me. You have so much going on. You're probably running a business or you're in a high capacity position. You're a mom. You have a lot. You're busy in your community with your friends and everything. We want you to be able to take finances off of your shoulders. Like for you to just open your bank app and know exactly how much you have for spending and know that your bills are covered. Like you just one less thing you have to worry about. Yep. Okay. So if I'm going to the store, I'm sorry, I just, I really love this. So I'm like, I'm going to, I'm going to use this.

30:06Okay. So the category, so am I going to have how many bank accounts? How many cards am I going to have when I go to the store? If I go shopping, if I go to buy something for the kids, if I go, so how many cards, bank accounts am I going to be actually actively using?

30:20Dyana:Yeah. No more than four. Okay. So if you think of it would be the Gadsden groceries one. It would be your pocket money one. If you have a restaurant's one, like an out to eat one. And then if you have this one, so it'd be no one to work, but you listen, I know it may sound like a lot, but you probably have that many credit cards in your wallet. Let's be honest. But the fun thing about it is that all the banks nowadays, they allow you to have different designs for the cards. Yeah. Yeah. Some of them are even now allowing you to label it, like what the account name is in a friend and put a sticker on it and you can label And now like I know exactly, I can look at my debit cards and I know exactly what they're for.

30:58Dyana:There's no question. It's not hard. It's just a new habit to form. Awesome. One last point too. Okay. You can be bougie on a budget. This, if you notice, we didn't tell you how much to spend. We didn't tell you like, all of our clients spend a lot on groceries because they want high quality food and it's important to them, right? For that. They all have gym memberships. They all get their glam up. They have their hair, nails, whatever. Like this is not telling you what not to do. It's just telling your money where to go on purpose because that's where you want it to go. The one thing that we didn't finish when we were talking about credit cards, I had to mention it.

31:31When we do income minus debt, minus bills, minus spending, minus savings. If there's something left over, then we put that money toward debt. If we want to get out of debt, that's the extra at the end of the budget, because we're seeing it's a zero based budget on purpose. At the end, if I have$300 left over once I did everything, then I put that on my first debt that I want to try to pay off.

31:50Dyana:And if there's not anything left over and you want there to be so you can get out of debt, or maybe debt's not your goal. Maybe you don't, maybe you don't have any debt, so that's not a problem. But if you do have debt and you're trying to get out of debt, if you don't have anything left over after you made your whole budget, then go back and go, okay, do I need all of these subscriptions? Do I really spend that much at the grocery store? Just really think about how your budget is flowing. Because again, we're not saying no, it's very customized to your lifestyle, your goals. So you just have to double check that and go, where do I want my money to go?

32:18Dyana:But again, putting it on paper first, being able to see how much you spend in the month will allow you to see how much you want to spend. Yeah. It's funny because I'll look at my account sometimes and I'll be like, I can't, I don't want to, I don't want to look at it. Cause then if I have acknowledged it, that means that I have to like stop or slow it down. I was talking to somebody and she's a organizer, a minimalist. And she said, she puts her clients on a 30 day spending a 30 day freeze. Everybody's on a 30 day freeze because she said usually after those that first week or few days you don't want it anymore so it's like not not in the money sense it's more of like in the minimizing sense right and the reason we are doing what we're doing now we're not doing this for teenagers we love them and we will help them we're doing this because you're making more money than you've ever made it's you know it's time for you to not feel that way and you're just like everyone else like head in the sand let me just ignore it but what we want you to do is look at your money and be like yeah I did that.

33:16I have money. I have money. You want you to look at it and be happy. As we alluded to in the beginning, it seems complicated. It seems hard. It's like this boy, it's like a boy world with all this finance too. Take that our budget system, the one that the freebie and the one that we have, it's very pretty. It's like light teal and pink. It's really pretty. We want this to feel like something you can own and be confident about.

33:36Dyana:And most of our clients after working with us, and I'm just saying this, it doesn't matter whether you're working with us or not. We've had people that have just literally use the system and have this month's success. They're paying off and or saving, depending on what journey they're on around$50 ,000 in six months, because they are, they now know what's happening with their money. Whereas before they had no idea where it was going, but now they're just intentional and it has a plan and they're putting it there on purpose, hence the automatic transfers. And so it, it actually is happening. What they want to happen is happening.

34:07It's intentional. I like that word being intentional about your money. Cause yeah, It's easy to get derailed and a little bit of this and that. And mom puts them on this card and this. And wow, you guys, thank you so much. I have to say, it's really been a privilege talking to you both because you have given so much. I have to say, I'm so excited. I'm going back. I'm going to listen to it again and again. And I'm going to get on your freebie list here too. So they're giving you a gift today, which is called the one page budget template. And if you wouldn't mind sharing a little bit about what the freebie is.

34:37Yeah, absolutely.

34:37Dyana:Our one page budget template is basically a snapshot of what our budget looks like. Okay. And so obviously it's not the digital version. Like ours, our whole system does it for you. It does all the math for you. The one template is a section for you to be able to see your budget on one page in those five simple categories. Yeah. We figure the way my brain works, Diana, is if it's on one page, it can't be that hard. Like when it's budget, like I'm flipping and there's stapled or something like, oh no, hard pass. It's pretty. It's very simple. that is what we want the vibes that we want for you.

35:08And it's those five categories we just talked about. So what we want you to do is download this, print it out and just start, just get a brainstorm, just brain dump. It doesn't have to be perfect to start. We just want you to start thinking like, what does my money look like in a month? It's all in one piece of paper. Just get a rough draft and get going. Yeah. Love it. That's great. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for the interview. Yes. Thank you for having us. Bye. Have a great day.

35:31Dyana:If you're tired of feeling like your finances are all over the place and you're ready for a simple set it and forget it way to budget, we have something special for you. Watch our automate your budget masterclass at budgetbesties.com forward slash automate. We'll show you step-by-step how to finally organize your money, how to set up your accounts and put your budget on autopilot. So your bills, saving and spending run like clockwork. Imagine less stress, more savings and the freedom to spend money without having to track every dollar or babysit your bank account. Go to budgetbesties.com forward slash automate to start today.

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  5. Why budgeting doesn’t mean cutting out lattes or the fun stuff — it’s about giving yourself permission to spend


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